WEBVTT - Why does Dasani water taste like that? 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:01.560 I'm Manny, I'm Noah. 0:00:01.600 --> 0:00:03.640 This is Devon and this is no such thing. 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:06.080 The show where we settle our dumb arguments and yours 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:09.400 by actually doing the research. On today's episode, why does 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:10.879 the Sonny water taste like that? 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:13.880 I could not believe that a company like Coca Cola 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:17.239 believes conspiracy theorists. Quite interesting. 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:25.760 No, there's no no such thing, no such thing, such thing. 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:39.879 All right, show of hands, vocally, who here identifies as 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:41.200 a real water drinker. 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:45.000 I drink a lot. My hands raised, Yeah, my hands raised. 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:48.480 Devin and Noah are water drinkers. I'm look, I'm I've 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:50.559 gotten I'm way better than I used to be. I 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:53.960 used to not drink any water, and now I realize 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:55.240 how insane that is. 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:55.920 That's crazy. 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:57.880 But probably when I first moved to New York, like 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:01.639 twenty fifteen, I would be getting my from like juices 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:04.440 or you know, just was not drinking water by itself. 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:06.720 Oh, I drink a lot of water. If I'm not 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:08.040 drinking water, I'm drinking tea. 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:08.959 Yeah. 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:12.440 So those are my two drink options. 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:15.000 And usually at the same time. 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.480 Yeah, I'll double fist it, you know, I get a 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:21.759 I get a cup of tea. Get a cup of tea, 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.720 get a cup of water. I get harassed at the dentist, 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:25.080 you know. 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:28.000 Yeah, well they always tell you need the water. 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:29.080 I'm a coffee guy. 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:34.160 Drink I'm like, okay, I got it. Yeah, I drink 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:34.640 a lot of water. 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:35.440 And growing up. 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:39.120 Water, No, growing up, it was a little bit different. Okay, 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:42.360 so back in my house, like growing up, we didn't 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:45.120 have like water in the fridge. It was like soda 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:45.759 and juice. 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:46.200 Yeah. 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:50.400 I feel like middle school, high school we started introducing 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:55.440 bottle of water, but it was still, you know, half 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:59.800 the time, you're still drinking soda or juice. I think 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:04.880 I transitioned to full on water college post college, because 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.160 you're just like, it's too damn expensive to be buying 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:11.400 juice and soda. Like I just like, it's you know, 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:15.320 so you get the bread in a refrigerator, yep, and 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:19.160 that's free. Yeah yeah, good outside of the filters. And 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:22.480 then yeah, Now it's funny when my family comes to 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:25.120 visit me, they like bring drinks because they're like, oh, 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.480 he's only got freaking water. 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:30.560 I mean, we never had soda in the house really, 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:34.400 so water was basically especially for you know, dinner, meal time, 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:38.400 you're gonna have water with it. Like otherwise it would 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:40.320 be you know, a juice in the morning, that sort 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:40.600 of thing. 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:41.320 We'd have milk. 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:44.160 Yeah, you were one of those have milk. 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:48.119 But yeah, I mean for most of what I can 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:50.800 think of is glasses of water. 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:53.840 These days, I'm way better at drinking water. A few 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:56.440 years ago, actually, when we were all at BI, I 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:58.920 went to the doctor and like something was up and 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:00.960 they were like, you need to drink way more water. 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:04.119 So then I bought on Amazon, like one of those 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:07.320 like sixty four ounce yeah water bottles, and it's got 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:10.000 like the time, like you need to drink this much 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.520 by noon, and it just made me feel like a baby. 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:15.400 But yeah, I'm way better today. 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:17.960 Yeah, I mean it's definitely exploded in the past few years, 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:19.160 water bottles, that. 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:20.160 Sort of thing. Oh my god. 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:21.320 And we both have ours right now. 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:22.799 But we're not I don't think we're on the extreme 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:24.840 end of it. Like there's people, like you said, there's 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:27.919 those huge ones or like I think there's people who 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:31.480 probably drink too much water, like more than necessary? 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:33.840 Is there too much? 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:38.840 Yeah, yeah, babies can't have water. Crazy, But did not 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:39.760 well you know. 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:41.400 Who else didn't know that. My mom didn't know that 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:45.440 because when I told you, she said, well fed more important. 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:50.720 Like what you and even for even for adults, you 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:53.560 can drink too much. All right, let's let's smooth forward 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:57.800 a little bit. Bottled waters. You're going into pharmacy of 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:00.320 your choice, Walgreens, Dwane Reid c CV. 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:02.640 What are you what are you looking for? 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.880 Number one? So I'm not First of all, I'm not 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:10.200 a spend one hundred dollars on a water bottles, So 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:14.360 I'm not getting any of those vans and all that stuff. 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:15.960 That's that's out of the market for me. 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:18.160 You're going for the every man. 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:21.000 I'm going for every man. It's water. What are we 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:21.400 doing here? 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:21.640 Yeah? 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:25.000 Okay, it just needs to taste okay, mm hmmm. I 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:27.839 think the best tasting budget water is poland spring. 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:30.960 Yes, I agree, Number one, spring Man. 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:33.280 All right, finish the reci your ring and then I've 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:34.039 got some questions. 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:39.200 Okay, yeah. Number two. Number two is like, uh, you know, 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:44.120 we could do like a deer Park water solid an aquafina. 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:46.640 I don't think I've ever had deer Park. 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:49.760 It stands out less branding wise. 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.479 It kind of looks like spring. Yeah. Okay, so that 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:56.239 you know those are like in the middle Deer Park 0:04:56.360 --> 0:05:00.520 with some other like mid tier or budget waters. 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:01.760 There's a crystal geezer. 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:05.400 Yeah, that's a lot of them are generic feeling. Yeah, yeah, 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:07.120 there's like another. There's a few others like that. 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:14.240 Is it great geezer or geyser geyser crystal old man, 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:18.880 we can cut that out. I was genuinely curious. I 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:20.520 was like, wait, what We'll see there's a. 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:28.080 Yeah, and then okay, so that's in the middle, and 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:31.560 then there's a very long distance, a very long distance, 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:36.279 and then at the very very bottom it's then yeah, wow, 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:40.360 this sign if I'm getting this SANI, there's no other water. 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:43.320 Event, but I'm going store brand over that. Yes, yes, 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:45.960 I mean yeah, I mean I haven't had the SNI 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:46.600 in years. 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:48.919 It has to be the only option sometimes when you 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:51.040 go to like a sporting event or something. Oh yeah, 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:53.719 that's the only option, and so you can't do anything 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:56.960 about it. But yeah, yeah, if I have to pick, 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:00.919 it's like I said, poem spring number one, all the 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:04.320 other ones in the middle, number two, and then very 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.640 worst case scenario, worst case scenario I'm getting. 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:10.160 I mean, I I've even had I've gone to a 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.920 vending machine. See it's only dashani, and I'm just like, 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:16.800 I'll get a soda, yeah, wow, something else, you know, 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:18.960 a sporting event, like you know, I was gonna be good. 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:21.599 I was gonna you know, not drink. But they're forcing 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:23.000 me to buy an eighteen dollars beer now. 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:25.760 Is because the only offering is soon now. 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:27.560 They're making me an alcoholic. 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:29.400 And it's their fall. 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:32.560 Sni is the reason why my dad never came back. 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:39.920 So I've heard this so much that people hate Dasani. 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:40.560 You know. 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:42.680 Part of me is like I can I can easily 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:46.839 imagine that these waters have different tastes. I do wonder 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:50.160 where the hell is the like the hate like like 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:52.880 Sani is like disgusting or like. 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:54.159 Yeah, it don't taste good to me. 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:55.960 And this is like the fact that it stands out. 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:56.600 That's the thing. 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.640 I kind of privately or personally came to this, yes, 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:01.880 and then I found out other people feel this way, 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:04.560 so that proves to me it's real and not just like, oh, 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:06.880 I didn't just see something like someone said, oh, Desny's 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:10.160 like cheap water or taste bad. And then I was influenced, which, 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:12.760 of course I can get influence by things, but no, 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.000 like I decided on my own, I don't like the 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:18.280 sony and then other people like Devin and the world. 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:21.720 Yes, yeah, And I guess it's fair too because you 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:23.720 guys grew up as water drinkers. 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:25.400 Yes, as I'm maybe not. 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:30.160 Exactly you know you ready, Yeah, you know, conversation happening 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:33.520 about I'm to the differences. Yeah, It's just always been 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:36.480 a thing for me where I'm like this, yeah, it 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:39.880 tastes off, And like Noah was saying, I've been thinking 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:43.000 about this since I was a kid when I couldn't 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:45.040 you know, It's not like when you're a kid somebody 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:47.160 hands you water. It's like water is water. You're not like, oh, 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.120 this water tastes Yeah. I was just like, why is 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:50.600 this water tastes weird? 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:52.040 And it's not refreshing the same way. 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.880 No, when I drink water, I wanted to be refreshing 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:56.120 and I don't really want to notice it. 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:59.280 For whatever reason, Desianni just never felt as thirst quenching 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:02.640 the same way. Yeah, so it wasn't you know, in 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:05.720 my mind, it's just not as satisfying to drink. So 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:07.960 it's like I should just get juice or something else. 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:13.800 I know, you ranked them already, but I'm so fascinated 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.239 by Like, all right, can you describe the difference between 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:18.960 Aquafina and Poland Spring. 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:22.080 M I think Poland Spring to me is the most refreshing, 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:24.760 Like I just have you know, when I think of 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.480 a Poland Spring, it's like a cold bottle of water 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:29.840 and a fridge. It's summer, you coming inside, and I 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:32.920 don't even think about when they change the water bottles. 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:35.199 That was that was huge, So that's something. 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:39.800 Yeah, the water bottle shape is interesting because it's it's dumb. 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.480 Obviously that that impacts how we taste it. But yeah, 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:47.400 it's true because Desani has the thin, narrow bottle, which 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:49.160 is kind of cool, Like I have to give respect 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:51.200 to what they're trying to do something different there. 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:52.320 It's like a sexy bottle. 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:58.440 Yeah, slim, slim, thick sort of thing. Yeah, but it 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.160 I think maybe because that it's almost like then my 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:05.280 expectations are too high and I'm disappointed because here's a sleek, cool, 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:08.800 modern bottle. And yeah, the taste is yeah, it's not 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.000 ancient tasting and not a good way. 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:14.319 Yeah, because Poland Spring, well remember when they started using 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:15.480 less plastic. 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:17.840 What about now? The caps are smaller. Yeah, they used 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:19.200 to have something that pisses me off. 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:20.440 You used to have some weight to them. You pick 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.120 up a bottle of water, squeeze it a little bit 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:26.560 and it wouldn't give now you knowing. 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:29.200 Yeah, you drink some water that's barely there. 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:31.000 It's like, what is this? 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.360 Yeah, can hold it in? Yeah, I got it. 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:36.400 So it's Poland Spring, I think one say the name 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:40.280 Poland Spring, yes, spring, Yes, this is real natural water 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:42.880 it Yeah, beautiful artwork. 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:43.280 I'm from. 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:45.040 I'm from New England, so you know, it kind of 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:48.160 takes me back. It's like, oh, yeah, this this tastes 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.400 like home to me. Yeah, you know, this is where 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:52.920 I'm from. So we're not alone on the dasagny thing. 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.280 As I said before, But this was new to me 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:58.559 when I started looking into this for the episode, because, 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:00.400 like I said, I haven't had a design years. I 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.640 swore off it and I knew that wasn't for me, 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:04.360 So I was like, I'm not checking out for any 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:07.160 updates on Thesani. But there's a lot of theories running 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:10.760 around about why the SONI stands out taste wise. The 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:15.080 main one is that the Coca Cola company adds salt 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:18.920 like basic table salt to make people thirsty or so 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:20.240 then they have to buy more to Sani. 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:22.679 No way, come on, Yeah, we. 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:23.280 Got the Soni. 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:26.240 Now that Sony has magnesium sulfate and potassium chloride, But 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:28.360 that's not even the worst part, because the Sani also 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:29.439 has salt as design to. 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:30.040 Make your mouth dry. 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.240 And this is why every fast food restaurant sells to Sony, 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:33.960 because if your mouth gets dry, you're just gonna buy 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.280 another one, which makes the Sani in that restaurant more money. 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:37.120 Y'all stay conscious? 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:39.520 Who is that from info Wars. 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:41.360 It's like kind of a prevailed that's kind of the 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:44.760 prevailing theory on write it and TikTok And but then 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:45.679 why would you. 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:49.559 That works against it though, because then you're you're a 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.800 whole it's a bad product. Yeah, if that's the whole 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:55.960 thing that you're doing, then you're saying that people are 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.720 going to drink my product, not be satisfied by my product, 0:10:58.720 --> 0:10:59.760 and hopefully buy more of my. 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:03.920 Product, especially when it's like waters in most cases there's options. 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:07.280 Yes, why would you make it so that, like if 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:08.959 there was a water monopoly, I could. 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:11.360 See, yes, exactly right, Yeah, But did you guys know 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:15.120 that last year in twenty twenty four, Coca Cola to 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:20.959 Sony's parent company, changed to the Sony formula. So do 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.120 SONI today is different than what we used to have. 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:25.400 This is exactly what I'm talking about. And this is 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:28.640 going back to the earlier point. This is the biggest 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:32.160 difference between the Sani. I would say Aquafina is in 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:35.400 this camp as well and the other waters. If you 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:38.160 told me Poland spring had a formula, I smack you 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.079 in your face. What you means a formula. This is 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:43.360 a spring, this comes from This is God's work. What 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:44.160 are you talking about? 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:46.840 That is a good question. What is a water formula? 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:47.360 Formula? 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:47.600 Right? 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:50.400 But they're just like preserved Sani and Aquafina. 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.040 They both have a like y'all did something in the 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:56.719 lab to this. I don't think it's so, but it 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:59.600 tastes like a soda company made water. 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:03.040 All right. Well, I'm not a water expert. I'm simply 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:05.920 a fan. So after the break, we're gonna find out. 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:16.680 I'm gonna talk to some water experts, all. 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:17.400 Right, and we're back. 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:20.000 So I spoke to two water experts to get some 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:21.959 intel on the Desni problem. 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:23.040 My name is Johnny. 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:27.679 Johnny Poujol started a company called tap Score about a 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:29.680 little less than ten years ago, and we decided we 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:33.160 wanted to make it really easy for people to test 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:34.520 their drinking water at home. 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:37.720 Johnny describes his company tap Score as the twenty three 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:40.720 and meters of drinking water. So obviously their focus isn't 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:42.760 on bottled water. It's more like you know your tap 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:44.680 and water health and safety in that way. 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:46.600 And here's my second expert. 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:50.840 Hello, my name is Martin Reason. I'm your personal water somebody. Yes, 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:55.000 I drink water professionally, and I like to hydrate people 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:58.120 and bring water effects to people and like to debunk 0:12:58.200 --> 0:12:59.520 a lot of water mysteries. 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.439 So that's Marian and the s is a water samelier. 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:08.120 I wasn't expecting that accent. That's beautiful. 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:10.360 So I asked these gentlemen to lay out what factors 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:13.440 impact water taste, and as you can guess, it's a 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:14.240 lot of different things. 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:22.880 When you look at water quality and the taste and smells, 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:26.959 it's broken down into things like salts and minerals. Dissolved 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.480 gases like CO two obviously has a big influence, but 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:33.679 oxygen can have an influence. You've got organic properties of 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:36.200 the water or carbon hydrogen bonds in the water. Pulvic 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:40.280 acids and humic acids are a major component there. You 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:43.440 really shouldn't have a lot of microbial tastes and odors 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:47.680 in bobbled water, but it does happen, especially with untreated waters. 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:50.760 And then you have maybe the most kind of ubiquitously 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:58.119 known and perhaps most notorious concerns like metals, iron, arsenic, copper, zinc, aluminum. 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.920 These can all impart significant flavor to the water, whether 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.679 they are present as salts or in some other format, 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:07.480 they're gonna have usually kind of metallic or various tastes. 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.400 And then you got things like more general properties like 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:13.160 TVs and pH. 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:15.959 Anyway, long story short, there's like different components to both 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:20.040 the smell and taste wheel of bottled water, bloss of utility. 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:22.680 Water, drinking water, well water in general, and drilling down 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:23.880 into just bottled water. 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:28.280 So not all bottled water are created equally one water brands. 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:32.040 They're coming from other nature like spring waters and mineral waters. 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:35.840 That means these waters getting their unique taste profiled due 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:39.880 to nature. Was water's universal solvent, it will pour minerality 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.000 out of the soil layers. On the other hand, you 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:45.120 have water brands when it's called purified water or distilled 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:48.480 water vapor distilled waters. These are water brands to most 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:51.360 of the times coming from our taps. They're using the 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:54.480 tap water as a base, filtering everything out and then 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:58.720 adding back some minerals whatever the formulation is what they 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:02.440 thought in a lap will be tasting good. So yes, 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:07.320 these waters as well have minerals dissolved, but by mankind 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:13.600 designed versus spring waters natures designed. That's a big two differences. 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:17.240 Devon's making a very concerned and confused face. Let me 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:20.080 simplify that a little bit and kind of reiterate. So 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:23.080 there's basically two kind of groups we can break these into. 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:26.520 So there's like spring in mineral waters, where the bottlers 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:29.400 take the water from a natural spring or other source 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:32.000 and basically just filter out enough to clean the water 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:34.320 to make sure there's not any you know, bacteria or 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:37.000 other dir other things in there, but keep all the 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:39.200 natural minerals that sort of thing. And on the other hand, 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:42.600 there's purified waters where they distill everything this water probably 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:45.840 comes from a tap in their lab, strip everything out 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:48.200 so there's nothing in it and then add stuff back in. 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:49.640 To build that flavor profile. 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:52.720 So what you guys were saying earlier before the break, 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:56.120 we're talking about formulas. There are formulas, and they're trying 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:59.040 to build taste. Because if you just had distilled water, 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:01.160 which they say well for you know things, but we 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.720 don't really drink it, would I don't think it would 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:05.680 like linger in your mouth at all and probably wouldn't 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:06.760 be very thirst quenching. 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:10.440 Mm Okay, I do see this thing like half the 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:12.280 products I use at home, like you should put the 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.160 you should use to steal the water with. Yeah, I'm like, 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:17.800 I'm just gonna put the water from the tap. It's 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:20.200 crazy to me to think about. I guess this makes sense, 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:24.480 but like I'm buying bottled water, which is you're taking 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:28.280 water from the tap and then putting it in a 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:31.480 bottle and then selling it to me. It makes sense. 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.960 It's just weird to think of, like you know, Coca 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:38.280 Cola being like turn on the tap and the same 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:41.320 water we're getting in our houses. They're like stuff and 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:43.800 then adding some stuff to it. Yeah, I just assume 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:46.520 they all got it from some sort of water source 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:48.560 and then their treatment was different of it. 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:51.800 Yeah, yeah, that's what I thought too. So some examples 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:55.120 eavy on Fiji and our goat pull and spring. Those 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:58.600 are the former, so those are natural spring mineral waters, 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:03.520 and then aquafine assentia and of course DESIGNI. 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:07.440 They're the latter. So those are you know, lab design. 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:09.560 They're starting basically, you're starting at the top or you're 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:12.280 starting at the bottom and then finding your middle ground somewhere. 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.160 I'm kind of surprised by the fact that these companies 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:19.000 are taking not just taking tap water, but purifying it 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:22.760 and then trying to make it taste like anything specific, 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:26.320 trying to design the tastes. That's kind of mind belonged 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:26.520 to me. 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:28.760 Yeah, imagine being a water taste tester. 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:30.720 Yeah, oh my god. 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:33.200 You know, some people can't even tell the difference between 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.440 coke and PEPSI. Now, these people in the labs are 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:39.080 changing like the tiniest Yeah, you. 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:45.600 Know, crazy. 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:48.720 Before we get into kind of more about taste and flavor, 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:51.840 I'm to zoom out a bit. Humans aren't the best tasters, 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:53.960 and our taste receptors are changing all the time. 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:55.720 Like long term, it's like why. 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:57.520 Kids like sweets and then as you grow up you 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:00.399 develop more of a taste for different flavor is like 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:02.399 you might like vegetables now that you didn't before. 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:04.879 Throw back to our recent episode on picky eating. 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:09.440 Yeah, and even like on a short term timeline, Martin said, 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:13.080 like every ten days, our taste receptors are new. But 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:15.320 then also I think things like what you ate today 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:17.560 is going to impact how you things taste to you, 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:21.480 like water other things, especially because water is taking, pulling 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:23.520 everything and then breaking it up is how these guys 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:24.080 describe it. 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:29.359 Just to kind of reiterate your guys's thoughts that I've 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:32.000 that I didn't understand at the beginning of this episode, 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:38.160 there are discernible distinguishable tastes from bottle to bottle, from 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:38.840 brand to brand. 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:42.000 Yeah, I think, so we'll do a taste test later 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:44.679 with different types. But yeah, I think I think it 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:46.000 is the sort of thing where there's enough of a 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:48.640 difference where not dramatically, and I don't think most people 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:52.639 are gonna have very strong reactions except for maybe something 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:55.200 like a desagni yes, right, but I think that's also 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:57.280 like you get used to it. So actually, this next 0:18:57.280 --> 0:18:59.000 bit I want to play for Martin kind of goes 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:00.960 into that a little bit, talking about difference between taste 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:01.480 and flavor. 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:03.840 So first of all, we don't have the golden palette 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:07.480 because it's changing all the time. Second, taste and flavor. 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:09.600