1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to step Mom? Never told you? 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: From House top works dot com. Hello and welcome to podcast. 4 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: This is Molly and I'm Kristen. Kristen. I am guilty 5 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: sometimes after meals of saying something like I could have 6 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: married that steak or I could have married that sandwich. 7 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: When I have a really good meal, I tend to 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: talk about marriage to be tend to propose to it. 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: I do even though it's gone, even though it's in 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: law belly making me happy. I still sometimes say, Wow, 11 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: that was I'd give a ring to that steak. I'd 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: have that steaks babies. And it's just a funny way 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 1: to express how much, or maybe it's not funny way 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: to express how much I love a meal. Yeah, and 15 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: and the thought of a thought of steak babies running 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: around is pretty great. In fact, I do it so 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 1: much that um one of my friends recently we were 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: at brunch, said oh man, I love these pancakes, and 19 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: she said, would you marry them? And I was like 20 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: a bit more of a casual, casual relationship. Their booty 21 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: call every now and then I wouldn'trry them, but love 22 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 1: them and leave them those pancakes. Yeah, so I've gotta 23 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: gotta start watching this because apparently it's coming a pretty 24 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: bad trait. But even though I jokingly talk about marrying food, um, 25 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: there are people for whom that attachment to an inanimate 26 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: object is not that unusual. That you would literally like 27 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 1: to marry a stake, or, in the case of some people, 28 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: the Eiffel Tower, the Berlin Wall, a computer, the Golden 29 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: Gate Bridge. And these people are termed objectim sexuals, meaning 30 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: that they have sexual and romantic feelings for an object. Yes, 31 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: they aren't attracted sexually attracted to other people, but it's 32 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: discreet from a sexuality, and that they have sexual feelings 33 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: and romantic attachments to like you said, buildings, uh, sound equipment, UM, architecture, 34 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: all sorts of things. Actually, none of the people in 35 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: any of our research were in love with food, so 36 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: maybe I shouldn't have used that comparison, but buildings and 37 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: monuments seemed to be the most common ones, at least 38 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: in our research. And this term objective sexuality was coined 39 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: in the nineties seventies when this woman named Asia Rita 40 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: married the Berlin Wall, and she took the last name 41 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: of Berlin or Mauer, which means Berlin Wall and um. 42 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: She was sort of the first big topic of conversation 43 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: around this study. And then in the ensuing decades, we've 44 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: had Erika Eiffel who married the Eiffel Tower. There was 45 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: one woman a year ago, I believe, who married an 46 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: amusement park ride and she took the last name of 47 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: the company that manufactures the ride. And there was a 48 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: movie that came out to a few years ago about 49 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: this phenomenon. Although people in the object and sexual community 50 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: really kind of disavow this movie because they feel that 51 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: it was sensational that, you know, they just really want 52 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: to talk about, you know, how you have sex with 53 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: the Eiffel Tower, whereas these people are talking about how 54 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:16,119 Speaker 1: these objects bring the same sort of love and satisfaction 55 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: support that other people get from a man or a woman. 56 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: If you were to talk to Erika Eiffel about her 57 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: relationship with the Eiffel Tower, she uses a lot of 58 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: the same kind of terminology that you would use to 59 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: describe a husband or a boyfriend or a significant other 60 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: of of any kind. They feel she feels a communication 61 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: she feels an actual energy coming from the Eiffel Tower 62 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: and an energy that she gives back and that radiates 63 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: from it, and uh is faithful in a way to 64 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: to the Eiffel Tower. Right when she talks about, you know, 65 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: she had admired the Eiffel Tower and picture she sort 66 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: of has seems to have this thing for all bridges 67 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: and structural objects. But she talks about going to the 68 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: Eiffel Tower for the first time and just being able 69 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: to hear it to be she hears it crying out 70 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: to her, and she deems the Eiffel Tower of female mooset. 71 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: Objective sexuals tend to put a pronoun on their object 72 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: of interest in some people. You know, there was one 73 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: man who said that every object he was involved with 74 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: us with another he so he was a homosexual objective sexual. 75 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: Whereas um Eric Eiffel sees the Eiffel Tower as a female, 76 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: she sees the Golden Gate Bridge as male. And she 77 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: talks about how she can have these relationships with these 78 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: different structural objects and get the kind of you know, 79 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: get fulfillment from it so much so that you know, 80 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: as we said, she had a commitment ceremony with the 81 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: Eiffel Tower a few years and Eric Eiffel says that 82 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: objective sexuals are animous who believed that everything in the 83 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: world has a spirit and a soul, and that's what 84 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: she is connecting to in these objects. And she first 85 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: fell in love with a bridge in her hometown, and 86 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: then she subsequent relationships with an archery boat and a 87 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: Japanese fighting sword, among other things. And this idea of 88 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: things having souls. Um, you know, that's how objective sexuals 89 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,559 Speaker 1: no almost know when a relationship is falling apart, because 90 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: breakups do exist. Um. They it's like they stopped receiving 91 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: that energy from an object. One man talks about how, 92 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: you know, he would sometimes be cheating on his objects 93 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: because he'd be doing repairs on other objects and he'd 94 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: start getting the vibe from the new object, he'd go 95 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: back to his original object. Let's say it was a computer, 96 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: and the computer would just be cold and frosty, the 97 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: way a person might be if they suspected you were 98 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: having an affair. And a lot of the trend stories 99 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: that you read about objecting sexuality, they tried to portray 100 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: who who might have a relationship with a Niffel tower 101 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,559 Speaker 1: or the Golden gate bridge or a sound board, because 102 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: it does seem so foreign to us. You know, we 103 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: have the podcast about a sexuality, and that seemed you 104 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: know already so um people didn't know. I don't really 105 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: know what to do with the idea of um of 106 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: people not even wanting to love other humans. But then 107 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: with objective sexuality, the idea of feeling some kind of 108 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: romantic attachment to an object is even more foreign. And 109 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: so when they're going through and looking at the community 110 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: that has that has come out as objective sexual, they 111 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: find that a lot of them do tend to either 112 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: have aspergers or be autistic, which makes sense. Those conditions 113 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: are marked by an inability to connect with another person. Um. 114 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: But you know, not every person who has autism or 115 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: aspergers is an objective sexual. Not ever, every objective sexual 116 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: does have autism or aspergers. Um. You know, one thing 117 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: that they always try and look for is instance of abuse. 118 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: Was there some traumatic instance in this person's life that 119 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: leads them to not trust anyone? And they don't find that. 120 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: By and large. They do find a few people who 121 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: have had abandonment issues, maybe they were in the foster 122 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: care system or abused by a family. Member. But you know, 123 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: there doesn't seem to be that that trend, which makes uh, 124 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: these people start to argue that it's just a normal 125 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: part of human sexuality that should be recognized on the 126 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: sexuality spectrum, much like that argument we had about a sexuality. 127 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: Is this should this be a sexual orientation? Should this 128 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,679 Speaker 1: just be recognized as you know, a choice that people 129 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: have made? And uh. A researcher named Amy Marsh, who 130 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: has done probably the biggest study of objective sexuality, says, 131 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: it is, it is an orientation. It should be considered 132 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: right up there with heterosexuality, homosexuality, objective sexuality. Right. She 133 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: was saying that if you were to apply the same 134 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: definitions of heterosexuality and homosexuality um, but simply replace the 135 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: human aspect of it with an object, it would you 136 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: would have the same types of emotional attachments two things 137 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: um and Amy Marsh did a survey of I believe 138 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: it was twenty one objecting sexuals about their relationships with objects, 139 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: and there was a lot of variation, UM, even within 140 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: that small community, in terms of whether or not they 141 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: directly communicated with the object, whether or not they masturbated 142 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: with the object. UM. Some of them or would have 143 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: monogamous relationships, non monogamous relationships much like dating. Right, Yeah, 144 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: they had very levels of intimacy. I think that's you know, 145 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: probably a question that jumps to a lot of people's minds. 146 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 1: And if you're sexually attracted to this object, how do you, 147 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: you know, consummate that? And you know, they don't go 148 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: into detail, and you know, but humans don't necessarily want 149 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: to detail either, So I don't think that that's out 150 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: of line with with anything. But you know, they do 151 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 1: find ways to find to have that satisfaction with their object. 152 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: And you know, some people have lobbied the accusation. These 153 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: people are choosing the easy way out because they don't 154 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: have to deal with the romantic entanglement so another person. 155 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: You don't have to to deal with what another person wants 156 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: or thanks or any of that, and that this is 157 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: somehow easier than a real relationship. But is Zerka Eiffel 158 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: points out, You know, you have to deal with the 159 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: fact that all these tourists are all over the thing 160 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: you love. You have to deal with the fact that 161 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: you can't, you know, go to bed with it at 162 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: the end of the night. So they're saying it's no 163 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: easier or more difficult than any other kind of relationship. 164 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: It's just another equally valid relationship. And I feel like 165 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: the reason that a lot of them participated in Amy 166 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: Marsh's study was just to bring awareness of the fact 167 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: that there are people who can find happiness this way, 168 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: and if you do find happiness this way, that you're 169 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: not alone. But since the objective sexual community is so 170 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: small a least the people who are out, and because 171 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: it does seem so taboo to have an emotional attachment 172 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: to an object, there is a lot of controversy about 173 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: whether or not this is just some kind of fetish 174 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: and you're putting way too much stock into this um 175 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: or whether or not, like you said, it should be 176 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: considered its own type of sexual orientation. And that's something 177 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: we can't answer, and I don't think any of these 178 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: researchers can because it is such a small community right now. 179 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: I think that, you know, we talked in the A 180 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: Sexuality podcast about how the articles kept saying this a 181 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,599 Speaker 1: sexuality revolution was going to happen and soon everyone was 182 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: going to identify as a sexual they would all come 183 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: out of the woodwork, and um, you know, I have 184 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: to wonder if in ten years, there will be more 185 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: stories about this um and then they'll if they'll still 186 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: be there like they are today, where it's just sort 187 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: of like it's always filed under like the weird IMACKI news, 188 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: like woman woman marries Roll across your ride, weirdomackie. But 189 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: you know, if these people continue to find each other, 190 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: if awareness continues to be raised, you know, maybe they'll 191 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: be in the New York Times wedding section one day. Perhaps, 192 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: So I think at this point we should turn it 193 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: over to our listeners. And because I'm curious to know 194 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: what what folks think about this? Are these people just wacko? 195 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: And how on earth could you think that you are 196 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: dating the Golden gate Bridge? Or is there something to it? 197 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: Can you find love in in objects? Can you really 198 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: fall in love with the Eiffel Tower? Let us know 199 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: your thoughts, mom stuff, mom stuff and how stuff works 200 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: dot com? Because my I'm I'm sure that maybe people 201 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: could fall in love with podcasts. Of course that's similar, 202 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: I would hope, So I hope. So so let us 203 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: hear your thoughts. All right, So let's do some list 204 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: your mail. I have an email here from Donna, who 205 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: writes on your Monogamy podcast. I was surprised how certain 206 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: you were that we are not a monogamous species. I 207 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: don't know that justifying such behavior for examples of the 208 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: animal kingdom, it's really such a persuasive argument. Most of 209 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: what we do as humans is an effort to distance 210 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: ourselves from the baser characteristics of the animal kingdom. Though 211 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: it is likely that there was a time when we 212 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: ran it around naked and eating raw meat like animals, 213 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: we worked to rise above such behavior. As a species, 214 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: we have put forth significant effort to be more than 215 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 1: merely animalistic. I also personally knew some people that tried 216 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: your proposal of new monogamy. They did set ground rules 217 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: and the plan work for about one year, but after 218 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: one year the woman found someone that she wanted more 219 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: than her husband. I'd assumed that most people would not 220 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: be surprised by this outcome and would say, well, what 221 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: did you expect? Though this method may work for birds, 222 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that my much more developed and civilized 223 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: mind can happily move along in a social relationship without 224 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: the fidelity that my marriage needs. Is it possible that 225 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: monogamy is part arising above those baser instincts? Allowing us 226 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: to work for a higher existence. Well, I have an 227 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 1: email here from Catherine in response to our episode on eyebrows, 228 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: and she writes, after listening to your Eyebrow podcast, I 229 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: was reminded of an exchange student from Brazil who lived 230 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: with us several years ago. She said that where she lives, 231 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: it was customary to shave off one eyebrow completely upon 232 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: graduation from college. I don't know if that also applied 233 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: to high school or postgraduate graduations, but I treasure a 234 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: picture I have of my beautiful Brazilian exchange daughter missing 235 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: one eyebrow. I thought you'd get a kick out of this. 236 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: Any interesting, very interesting tradition. Yeah, maybe we should start 237 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: doing that for every podcast we can. Yeah, for our 238 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: next two episode, we will shave off our eyebrows. All right, Okay, 239 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: Actually no, I'm not gonna make that deal. You're on 240 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: your own. You think that. We'll send us emails if 241 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: you would like to share your thoughts. 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