1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Second hour of playing Buck kicks off right now, Saint 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: Patrick's Day edition. I'd say hello to all of our 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: Boston area listeners, but you're probably four guinnesses deep already 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: and dressed like a little Leprechaun and running around the 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 1: streets of Southeast having a great time, So you're not 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: listening necessarily to the show. But I'm sure the Saint 7 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: Patrick's Day Parade in New York is going to be 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: quite a quite an affair. I used to the only 9 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: that's really the only parade Clay that I can think 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: of in New York that on a semi I'm not 11 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: a parade. This is this will surprise none of you. 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: I'm not really a parade guy. 13 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 2: You know I'm gonna I'm gonna join you, Buck. This 14 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: is maybe gonna surprise people. I'm very anti parade. 15 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: I don't I think parades existed for a time before 16 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: like screens and uh, you know, I don't I get. 17 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: Why parades in the nineteen forties were a big deal, 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: right You never went to the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade? 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: Definitely not Nope, not a thing. 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: Well, I keep why parades are good for kids, Like 21 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: there's the electrical Light Parade at Disney World, which I 22 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: would rank as number one on my parade list for 23 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: little kids. I think parades make sense for adults. I 24 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 2: don't understand the desire to watch. I also watch parade. 25 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: Tell you that I lived on the route for many years, 26 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: on the actual route of the Gay Pride Parade in 27 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: New York City, and I saw things. I saw things 28 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: and that parade that I gotta tell you shouldn't be 29 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: going on in parades. 30 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: Just gonna tell you that's a whole other the whole 31 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 3: other thing, A lot of nudity, a lot of a 32 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: lot of crazy stuff going on. 33 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: So I'm not a parade guy. The one exception I 34 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: have for parades was, uh, I love the Scottish bag 35 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: I mean the god Scottish bagpipes. 36 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 4: Whoops. 37 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: I love the bagpipes. And you'll hear on Saint Patrick's 38 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: Day a lot of bagpipes going on now. Apparently, I'm 39 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: sorry you. 40 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: And the Queen Elizabeth was a huge bagpipe fan back 41 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: in the day. That's how she wants would she She 42 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 2: was like, I want as many bagpipes as possible. Basically, 43 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: I believe the bagpipes that you all think of when 44 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: you think of the movie Braveheart. Are actually Irish bagpipes 45 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 2: and they are the Scottish bagpipes. Scottish bagpipes are less 46 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: how do I put this nicely melodic? Irish bagpipes have 47 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: a little more of a melody, kind of a sweetness 48 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: to them. I don't know much about this stuff, but 49 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: I've just done a little digging on Braveheart, so I 50 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 2: figured these things out. So point being, if you're going 51 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: to a Saint Patrick's Day parade, have a great time, 52 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: and I hope you remember some of it. And there's 53 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: that we also have over in Ireland, which is the 54 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 2: top of my list for the next place I want 55 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: to go overseas with Carrie. Our last little family trip 56 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: was to Spain. Loved Spain, but I went to see 57 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 2: the cathedrals and went to Toledo and did all that. 58 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: I love. Spain is an incredible civilization, a wonderful country. 59 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: Big fan. Scotland is amazing too. What's Scotland? That was 60 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Ireland, That's where my people are from. 61 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: How Irish are you, by the way, like by background 62 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: twenty three and me like now in this country, I 63 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: did twenty three and me and I was hoping that 64 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: I would be part black, so I could start saying 65 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: as an African American, I was entirely, entirely English and 66 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: Irish like my entire there was maybe a little bit 67 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: of a little bit of North French, you know, because 68 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: there used to be a lot of cross pollination between 69 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: for those of you who are history nerds, between England 70 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: and France, across the English channel there and so all that. 71 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: A lot of names that we think of as as 72 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: or British, like Fitzgerald, it's like Fijia, Fild that actually 73 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: comes from northern France. There's a lot of that. A 74 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: lot of names that we think of as Anglo Irish 75 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: are actually French names that got brought over. 76 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: Supposedly, the Travis name is partly connected to Trevir's, which 77 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 2: is of French derivation. First of his name, I think 78 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: was around nine hundred in the Travis name around nine 79 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 2: hundred I think in England. So all British, all Irish. 80 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: And my mom sent me this, and I don't know, 81 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: I don't want to throw my mom under the bus here, 82 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: but I will say my mom is not always one 83 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: hundred percent accurate in the information that she shares with 84 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 2: me from the internet. I don't know if this is 85 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: a this is a general. My dad used to send 86 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 2: me those chain letters that were like, if you. 87 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 3: Don't forward this song, you're gonna have seven years of 88 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 3: bad luck. 89 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: And I would be like stop it, and he's like, 90 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: I can't. I don't want the bad luck. 91 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 2: So my mom sent me something I don't know you would. 92 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: You may have some knowledge on this that green eyes 93 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: are uniquely connected to the DNA from people who lived 94 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 2: in Ireland. I don't know if this is true at all. 95 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: Some of you may be super smart when it comes 96 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 2: to eye color. She said that it is. Again, this 97 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 2: is my mom, So I don't want to throw under 98 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,559 Speaker 2: the bus. But my mom is not one hundred percent 99 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: accurate on things on the internet that she sends to me, 100 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: as I'm sure maybe some of your moms and grandma's 101 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: are are not as well. But she sent me something 102 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 2: yesterday in honor of Saint Patrick's Day saying green eyes 103 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 2: are incredibly rare, which is true, and that they have 104 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 2: primarily derived from people who are of Irish descent, and 105 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 2: so if you see someone with green eyes hazel eyes, 106 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: that that is primarily connected to Ireland and it was 107 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: a cool kind of little take that she sent me 108 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: that it's to be fair gone megaviral, I think on Instagram, 109 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: but it had me thinking about it in advance of 110 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: today being Saint Patrick's Day. I like you, have not 111 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 2: spent time in Ireland. I have been to England. I 112 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: have been to Scotland. I would like to go to 113 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: Ireland and actually be able to do a good visit 114 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: at some point in time. I love Guinness. I have 115 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 2: heard that one of the coolest the tours you can 116 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: take if you are a fan of Guinness is they 117 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: have the great Guinness Factory where they produce all of this. 118 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 2: I believe in Dublin. I've been a bunch of you 119 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: who are listening to us have been there. I am 120 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: a big fan of Guinness. I'll probably have a few 121 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: pints today as I watched the US hopefully beat Venezuela 122 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 2: in the WBC. But we'll see on the eye color 123 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: argument whether my mom is correct or not on that. 124 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: According to the Internet, which take that as you will, 125 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: Ireland has the greatest concentration of green eyed people and 126 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: red haired people in the country in the world per capita, 127 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: in the world. Yes, so, and your son has got 128 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: red hair. He got fiery red hair. He's at redhead. 129 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: He looks like Jamie from Outlander for those of you 130 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: who are Outlander fans. He's got that fiery red hair. 131 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: But Clay, Unfortunately, the leadership of Ireland when it comes 132 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: to love of their country and heritage, not as fiery 133 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: as some of us would want, or rather sounds a 134 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: bit more like you're at a Davos lecture. Here is 135 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: the Irish President using the story of Saint Patrick to 136 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: tell everybody, we know what we need in Ireland, more 137 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: globalism and more migration from countries all over the world 138 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: that have nothing to do with Ireland or have no 139 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: similarity or commonality with Ireland. Play fifteen. 140 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 4: The story of Patrick's life serves as a reminder of 141 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 4: the resilience and courage of migrants, the invaluable contributions that 142 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 4: they have made and continue to make to the countries 143 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 4: they now call home, sometimes even in the face of 144 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 4: great As we recall the life of Patrick, we invoke 145 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 4: his spirit and acknowledge our shared responsibilities as global citizens. 146 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 4: Patrick's story invites us to respond with hospitality and kindness 147 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 4: to those suffering the consequences of war and displacement. Those 148 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 4: fleeing their countries because of persecution are violence. 149 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: I mean he's initially captured as a slave from Britain, 150 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: brought to Ireland to work there, and then he escaped, 151 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: and then he came back later as a missionary. But 152 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: he didn't show up from like Bangladesh and say, hey, 153 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: I want a lot of free stuff, pay for all 154 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: my things, and I don't plan to learn your language, 155 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: Like things have changed quite a bit since migration in 156 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: the fifth century. 157 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 2: That yes, that also sounds like a guy who's playing 158 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: the role of an Irish guy. Listening to that audio, 159 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: it doesn't sound like a real person. It sounds like 160 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: he's playing the role of an Irish guy. A woman movie, 161 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 2: that's a woman. I think that's a guy. Did we 162 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: just play the audio of It's a woman? Oh? I 163 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: thought that was a guy? Am I the only person, 164 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 2: only person who thought that was a dude? Is that? 165 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: Is that sexist of me? I was like, this is 166 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 2: kind of a soft like not very fair. 167 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: We don't know how the President of Ireland identifies, but 168 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: if you're going with, is this a chick? When you 169 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: look at her, it's a chick? 170 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 2: Dude, I totally thought that was a dude. No, like, 171 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: I'm kind of a weak voice dude. Am I the 172 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: only person that thought that was a dude? Please other 173 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: people out there listening. You're not going to hire her 174 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 2: for the outkicked Bikini calendar. But it is a female. Yes, 175 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: I thought totally thought that was an effeminate dude. I 176 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 2: was like, this sounds like somebody who's trying to be 177 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: blandly inoffensive and playing a of blandly inoffensive apologetic dude. 178 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: So well, I guess that's a masculine sounding chick in 179 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: some way. Then you had you knew one hundred percent 180 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 2: that was a dude, or you knew because. 181 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: I knew there was a chick. It's a lot of dude. 182 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: It's the opposite of yeah, all. 183 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: Right, but you knew you knew based on the voice. 184 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: It's not even a dude who looks like a lady. 185 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: It looks like a lady. 186 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, but we don't have video. 187 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: This is what do you mean? 188 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: There's video, yes, I'm saying, but we're not watching the video, 189 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 2: so I'm only it's a theater of the mind. I'm 190 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 2: only hearing a voice, and I was picturing that being 191 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: a man speaking. 192 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, I think that gets you ahead. Butut 193 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: and some guinness thrown in your face in Dublin, buddy. 194 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: So that's all I can tell you. My point here 195 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: on Ireland is twenty percent of Ireland is now foreign born. 196 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 1: The number in the last ten years is going up dramatically. 197 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: And the and the Irish leadership they see what's gone 198 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: on in place is like Germany and Sweden and Belgium, 199 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: and they're like, you know what, we need some of that, 200 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: and France, you know what, we need some of that. Well, 201 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: let's get some of that going on. Let's bring in 202 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: as many people from other places as we can as 203 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: fast as we can and see what happens to our 204 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: cul church where our political unity and everything else. But 205 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: the Irish look just historically it got a big I'm 206 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: not talking about Irish Americans, which is probably about a 207 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: third of this audience right now, including Clay and me. 208 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the actual Irish Irish big chip. They 209 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: love they love you know, they love the PLO, they 210 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: love Cuba, they love all the like downtrodden leftists of 211 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: the world because they're right next door to Great Britain. 212 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: And yeah, They've had all their beef with Britain and 213 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: the IRA and everything else, but at the end of 214 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: the day, their next door to Britain. It's a pretty safe, 215 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: cozy little place to be. 216 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 2: Do you know where all of this comes from? 217 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: Though? 218 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 2: Unfortunately people in Ireland and people in most Western civilization 219 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: countries are just not having enough babies. Like this is why, 220 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 2: ultimately I understand the idea of oh, we just want 221 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: to be welcoming for everybody. The population collapse Japan, Italy, Ireland, 222 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: I'm sure when it comes to actual numbers of babies 223 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 2: that Irish women are having, which, by the way, if 224 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: you went back to America in the eighteen eighties, if 225 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 2: we had said, hey, you know what's going to be 226 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: an issue one day for Ireland. They're not going to 227 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: have enough kids, a lot of people would have rolled 228 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: their eyes and said, yeah. 229 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: You know. 230 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 2: The whole phrase Irish twins, which I don't know if 231 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 2: it's offensive or not, but you know, it's like you're 232 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 2: having babies so close together is called Irish twins for 233 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 2: a reason. But the population is collapsing. I bet here's 234 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: off the top of my head. I bet the average 235 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 2: Irish woman right now Buck is having. We'll look this up. 236 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: I bet they're having one point three five children on average, 237 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 2: and so over generations will look up with the number actually. 238 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: One point five, you're close one point five, and they're 239 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: going to be in negative negative territory. Their population will 240 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: start contracting within the next twenty years based on the 241 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: current trend. 242 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 2: So this is why they're trying. This is the root cause. 243 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 2: Like they may say, oh, we want to be welcoming 244 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: and all these other things, they're importing people who are 245 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 2: having far more children, which then becomes even more dangerous. 246 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 2: But because in the future Ireland will be largely not Irish, 247 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: which doesn't seem ideal to me. 248 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: See, this is what the frustration is though, And by 249 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: the way, we're all we all understand, right, there's a 250 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: lot of this with America too, that you have people 251 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: who are over taxed and overburdened and overregulated and have 252 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: to deal with all the nonsense of the government making 253 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: in this country. The cost of housing has gotten completely outrageous. 254 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: You have to make one hundred percent more to qualify 255 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: for the same house you would have five years ago. 256 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: That's insane, purely government policy driven. And we're bringing people 257 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: from all over the world who go on welfare. So 258 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 1: a lot of Americans of all colors, of all ethnicities, 259 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: of all backgrounds, a lot of actual American Americans, though, 260 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: are saying I can't afford to have kids, and then 261 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: people show up here who don't actually contribute, have five 262 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: kids and go the States, going to pay for all 263 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: my kids. Yes, and that is happening in Europe, and 264 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: it is happening here, and people are sick of it. 265 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 2: The number of people out there who if you sit 266 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: around and think I can't afford to have kids, you 267 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: are in the minority. People who are just to your 268 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 2: to buck's point, who actually can't afford to have kids 269 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: are the ones having kids. And a lot of people 270 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: out there who are highly educated and have resources, they 271 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 2: don't think they can afford kids. It's a major issue. 272 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: And again this is the underlying impetus under which all 273 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: of this immigration is happening. I want to tell you, 274 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: March madness is here. Price picks will make it more fun. 275 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: Whether you are in California, whether you are in Florida, 276 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: whether you are in New York or Washington State. 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Welcome back in Clay, Travis bought Sexton Show. 291 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 5: Several of you at least agreeing with me that you 292 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 5: also thought it was a whippy dude who was talking, 293 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 5: So I'm not totally out to lunch here. 294 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: Someone said it sounds like Missus Doubtfire. 295 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 2: Hello, that's kind of what I was getting into. It 296 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 2: felt like someone fake performing, And yes, I could see 297 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: totally the Missus Doutfire, which was a dude pretending to 298 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: be a chick in a weird voice. Let's see, we 299 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 2: were said we were going to talk about Cuba. So 300 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 2: let's set the table here, uh for can we. 301 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 3: Can I just get a little credit from our We 302 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: have a we have a Scottish bagpipe expert who was 303 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 3: called in to say, Wow, Buck, you know expect tim 304 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 3: from Nominee. 305 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: Did I nail that? Nominee? I think that's right, Wow, 306 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: Nominee Wisconsin. If I got that right, Nominee, you got 307 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: to give Buck the key to the town. 308 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 6: Hit it be Clay and Buck Aaron Gobrow on this 309 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 6: Saint Patrick's Day. Just so you know, the Irish bagpipes, 310 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 6: as you call them, are referred to as Ulian pipes, 311 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 6: and yes they do have a more mellow sound than 312 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 6: the Scottish bagpipe counterparts. 313 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: That's a really what happens when you love Braveheart so 314 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: much that you watch the behind the scenes, you read 315 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: multiple biographies of William Wallace and you find out that 316 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: Braveheart is a movie he said in Scotland, but filmed 317 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: and basically costumed and soundtracked by Irish stuff. 318 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 2: You did, hopefully tour the castle William Wallace Castle in 319 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 2: Scotland when you were there, right. 320 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: Not really a castle. It's a monument to him. 321 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 2: I thought he used to live in one of the castles. 322 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: No, no, I mean you don't go what do you mean? 323 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 2: I thought that there was a place in Scotland that 324 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 2: William Waller. 325 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: There's a Wallace monument that looks like a castle, but 326 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: it was built as like a monument. Yeah, that's what 327 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: you're thinking of the Wallace monument which looks like a castle. 328 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: But no, that wasn't his actual They realized the movie 329 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: was so freaking huge and such a tourist thing that, 330 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: like you know, they had to go all in on this. 331 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 2: So I was there twenty seven or twenty eight years ago, 332 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 2: So but I remember thinking it was awesome. 333 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: Then yah's great, Yeah, it's fantastic. Stirling Castle is incredible 334 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: and historical and absolutely worth going to. All right, I 335 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: think about this. 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Text Buck to ninety eight ninety eight, ninety eight. 355 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. So, Clay, you wanted 356 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: to talk to you, but I want to I'm gonna 357 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: go on a limb here for a second. Okay. My 358 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: interest in Cuba other than just a history of communism 359 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: and how it destroys everything, and having some friends who 360 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: including a friend who fought the Bay of Pigs, is 361 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 1: still around and may actually be listening right now. My 362 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: interest in Cuba tends to go around the just pure 363 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: anti communist lines you're interested in Latin America, I feel 364 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: like right now, particularly because there's a base of ball 365 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: going on. 366 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna say there's baseball going on, 367 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: I would like to buy that's what a huge Cuban estate. 368 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: I want Cuba to be a capitalistic world, and I 369 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 2: think it would be. If you go back in time 370 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 2: and you're a history person, you know Hemingway lived in Havana. 371 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 2: It was a beautiful place until the fifties. I used 372 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: to live in the Caribbean. 373 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: Did large just finish building your house like your your 374 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: house said? And in Florida, you're really gonna make her 375 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: build a house in Cuba. Now, do you realize all 376 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: the hoops they're gonna have to go through for this. 377 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: I'm in the house in Florida right now. It is awesome. 378 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think having like a big Cuban estate 379 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 2: would be awesome, and I think Cuba would be I'm 380 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 2: not kidding about this. I think it would be a 381 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: real capitalistic jewel because of its proximity to America, how 382 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 2: quickly you can get back and forth. And I know 383 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 2: there are tons of Cubans out there that would love 384 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 2: to have the opportunity to help make it a capitalistic 385 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 2: jewel again. And so I have been a longtime student 386 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 2: because I lived in the Caribbean. I love so much 387 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: of the history of the Caribbean, and I think Cuba 388 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: is sort of this perfect postcard of what communism does. 389 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 2: It destroys so many people's qualities of life, and I 390 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 2: just hate when we have the same conversations over and 391 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 2: over and over again. And I think this ties into 392 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 2: a large extent with President Trump, because he's just fed 393 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 2: up with a lot of the same debates having existed 394 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 2: for much of our lives. And one of the things 395 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: that we've debated is one did the Cuban revolutions start 396 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,239 Speaker 2: fifty nine? Was that when Castro came into power. If 397 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, I think in nineteen fifty nine ish 398 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 2: Castro took over Cuba, which at the time was a 399 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 2: flourishing island filled with commerce as it had been from 400 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 2: the moment we basically founded the new World. I mean Cuba, 401 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 2: Havana was one of the jewels of the New World. 402 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: It was Spain's real headquarters in the New World, right, 403 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: I mean, Cuba was the site of the most important 404 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: Spanish settlement for a long time if memory serves. 405 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was a jewel of the New World. 406 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 2: I mean one of the I read the there's a 407 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: great book on the history of Cuba that I read 408 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: probably five or six years ago. And Cuba was arguably 409 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: Havanah in particular, the capital of the New World. You 410 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 2: go back and look at the populations in New York, Boston, Philadelphia, Charleston, 411 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 2: the biggest city at the time of the colonization of America. 412 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 2: Cuba was as big as many of these cities that 413 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: are absolute heavyweights of America today. It was bigger back then, 414 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 2: and it was the economic engine of much of the 415 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: New World, and it was for a long time until 416 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 2: it was destroyed. 417 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: And they produced a lot of great outfielders, Let's be honest, 418 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: you know a lot of guys who could swing that. 419 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 2: Backus a lot of elite talent. But it would not 420 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 2: be bad if you're a Major League Baseball fan to 421 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 2: have more Cubans who were able to compete in Major 422 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: League Baseball. But you know Castro himself, A lot of 423 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 2: people don't know this, Buck, Fidel Castro decent ballplayer back 424 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,959 Speaker 2: in the day. Do you know this was actually a 425 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: very good hoped to have a pro career in Major 426 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: League Baseball, didn't and then overthrew capitalism. 427 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: In his country. I just I can see it right now, 428 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: a loud kick brought to you by Price Pigs. 429 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 2: You know, I learn Spanish, so I'm a little bit 430 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: behind on my idea of living in Cuba, and I'm 431 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 2: not great at language or accents. As everyone knows who 432 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 2: listens to this, I can barely pull off English sometimes. 433 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: And so but I do think that we are in 434 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: we are poised to potentially finally end this whatever it is, 435 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 2: seventy year absurdity of allowing a communist country to be 436 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 2: ninety miles off the shore of the United States. And 437 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 2: I think it's long past time to free the economy 438 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 2: of Cuba and in so doing free the people of 439 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 2: Cuba as well. And there is no opposition to speak 440 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 2: of at all. And I know Marco Rubio has got 441 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 2: a lot on his plate, but I feel like he 442 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 2: is particularly well attuned throughout the enormity and entirety of 443 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 2: his life, given the situation of Cuba, to know and 444 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 2: have thought a great deal about what is the appropriate 445 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 2: way to return freedom and capitalism which march hand in 446 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: hand to Cuba. And so I think we're honestly almost there. 447 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: And I think it's the great unspoken aspect of what 448 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 2: we did Venezuela in taking out Maduro freed up Cuba 449 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 2: to fall, and I think figuring out how to manage 450 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 2: this is I bet something that Marco Rubio is spending 451 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 2: a great deal of time on right now. 452 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: Marco Rubio I think has and always will have a 453 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: special place for the freedom of the Cuban people. And 454 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: so if there's anything that he can do at this 455 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: stage as the Secretary of State under this Trump administration 456 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: to bring that about, it would be a really almost 457 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: like a Shakespearean bringing full circle moment for him. It 458 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: would be pretty incredible, or maybe a Homarian moment. So yeah, 459 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: I think I think it would be incredible. I think 460 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: this would be a great thing. And I don't know 461 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: how they're planning to do anything other than what we've 462 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: seen right now, but I do know this. You can't 463 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: just keep a country in the dark without power before 464 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: things start to think about what a mess this must be. Yes, 465 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: and we have very little media coverage for obvious reasons 466 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: of what goes on in Cuba, but it must be 467 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: pretty hellish situation there. Like I said, you're talking transport, refrigeration, 468 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,719 Speaker 1: you're talking electricity obviously for some hospitals. 469 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: Think about the impact of hospitals, right. 470 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: All kinds of stuff. So I wonder. I don't know 471 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: what level of contact the governing communist authorities have with 472 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: anybody who could even get in touch with us. I'm 473 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: not really sure how that works. But I do know this, 474 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: they do not have long to play this out. I 475 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: don't really know what the future is. Yeah, I think 476 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: the Trump administration is playing this from pretty close to 477 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: the vest play. I think they have thought out more 478 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: of what's going to happen in Cuba than have they 479 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: been able to count on the next steps in Iran, 480 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. 481 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 2: I bet they've got some ideas here for how this 482 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 2: is going to go. I think that's right, and they 483 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 2: haven't really spoken out on it. I mean, we obviously 484 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: have a lot of foreign policy playing out right now, 485 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 2: where I would say some people have said, well, I 486 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: don't think they've really kind of spelled out all of this, 487 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 2: and that's been a criticism. I actually think there is 488 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 2: pretty strong connection between all three of these and basically 489 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 2: what we're trying to do is return freedom to as 490 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 2: many people around the world who have been in direct 491 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: opposition to the United States as possible, which is why 492 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 2: I say that. To me, it has a sort of 493 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: echo effect of what we saw happen in nineteen eighty 494 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 2: nine when the Berlin Wall came down, and I get 495 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 2: let me give credit to our team here buck, because 496 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 2: I asked, Hey, these were circulating. People have said, including 497 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 2: Joe Kent, who we talked about earlier, Hey, I'm resigning. 498 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 2: This is the president falling victim to the sway of Israel. 499 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 2: And that is why we went into Iran and the 500 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 2: team went back and pulled a bunch of audio. Listen 501 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 2: to this book. This is Trump interviewed in nineteen eighty 502 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 2: saying the US should have invaded Iran to get the 503 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 2: US hostages out. Listen to this This is from nineteen 504 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 2: eighty For people who say, oh, he's just doing this 505 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 2: because of Israel, I think Trump has had in the 506 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 2: back of his mind, wanting to solve these problems for 507 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 2: much of his life. This is a flashback October sixth, 508 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty Trump talking to Ronna Barrett. 509 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 7: It should really be a country that gets the respect 510 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 7: of other countries today. 511 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: Respect the most important thing in your opinion. 512 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 7: Well, respect can lead to other things. When you get 513 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 7: the respect of the other countries, then the other countries 514 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 7: tend to do a little bit as you do, and 515 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 7: you can create the right attitudes. The Iranian situation is 516 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 7: a case in point. That they hold our hostages is 517 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 7: just absolutely and totally ridiculous. That this country sits back 518 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 7: and allows a country such as Iran to hold our hostages, 519 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 7: to my way of thinking, is a horror, and I 520 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 7: don't think they do it with other countries. I honestly 521 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 7: don't think they'll do it with other countries. 522 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 5: Obviously, you're advocating that we should have gone in there 523 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 5: with troops, etc. 524 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 7: And brought our boys out. I absolutely feel that. Yes, 525 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 7: I don't think there's any question, and there's no question 526 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 7: in my mind. I think right now would be an 527 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 7: oil rich nation and I believe that we should have 528 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 7: done it, and I'm very disappointed that we didn't do it, 529 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 7: and I don't think anybody would have held us in abeyance. 530 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 7: I don't think anybody would have been angry with us, 531 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 7: and we had every right to do it at the time. 532 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 7: I think we've lost the opportunity. 533 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 2: Okay, forty six years ago. That is President Trump saying 534 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: we should have gone in and taken out a run. 535 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 2: So he's actually acting on many of the public pronouncements 536 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 2: that he has made for a very long time. And 537 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 2: by the way, we're going to talk at the top 538 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 2: of the next hour, and I'm super interested to have 539 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: this conversation with a guy named Shervin Pishfahar and again 540 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 2: may or may not be getting that name perfect, but 541 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,959 Speaker 2: has been involved in trying to come up with an 542 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 2: economic plan for Iran if there were not crazy religious 543 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 2: fundamentalists opposed to capitalism in control of the country. But 544 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 2: we will talk with him. He's an advisor to the 545 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 2: Iran Prosperity Project. At the top of the next hour, 546 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 2: and by the way, just a heads up, we're going 547 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 2: to go down to the Marjorie Taylor Green District where 548 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 2: they are going to be selecting a new congressman. And 549 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: Clay Fuller, former district attorney, Lieutenant Colonel. He is the 550 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 2: nominee in Georgia fourteen, and we will be talking with 551 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 2: him when we go into the third hour. 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By the way, 576 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 2: that book if some of you are readers, Cuba and 577 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 2: American History by a I believe it's a woman named 578 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 2: Ada Farrer, and I probably have mispronounced her name, but 579 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 2: the book is actually really interesting if you are in 580 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 2: any way interested in the history of colonialism and uh 581 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: and when we found the New World, and which cities 582 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 2: became incredibly popular h and and wealthy and why they 583 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: did and uh Havana as one of the jewels of 584 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 2: the New World. It's a great read. Cuba and American 585 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 2: History just kind of taking you through, particularly the olden 586 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 2: history of Cuba, as we potentially face a new world 587 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: where Cuba may in some way be freer than it 588 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 2: has been in a very very long time. Buck, you're 589 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 2: not particularly optimistic on Iran, what about Cuba? 590 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: Well, hold on, I'm not optimistic on regime change in Iran. 591 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: I think that obviously we've kicked their military's ass, and 592 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: this may be useful for a whole range of reasons. 593 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: But I don't think we're going to have a new 594 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: government that seems like a normal country anytime soon. 595 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 2: What about Cuba, what do you think is going to 596 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 2: happen there? If you were putting your CIA analyst hat 597 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 2: on and trying to discern the future. 598 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: I see it as in between Iran and Venezuela in 599 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: terms of to me, it's a I think Iran probably 600 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: stays with the government it has. I think Cuba it's 601 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: a fifty to fifty and obviously Venezuela has already had 602 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: major change and I think is going to continue to 603 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: go in a better direction as a result, So to me, 604 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: to me, it's a it's a it's a toss up 605 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: whether Cuba the regime stays or not. I'd give you 606 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: ten to one odds. I always do that wrong. The 607 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,719 Speaker 1: ten to one odds that the Iranian regime stays to 608 00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: ten damn it. One to ten odds. Gambling man that 609 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: the Iranian regime stays ten to one would be you know, 610 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: you're giving ten dollars back for a one dollar bet 611 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: you want to give you want to go the other 612 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: way around. I'm saying very to me that Iran's government changes. 613 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 2: The one thing that's interesting about Cuba is we were 614 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 2: just talking about, is they don't have power on the 615 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: whole island. And I know inconsistent power has been a 616 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 2: plague of Cuba for a long time, but the whole 617 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 2: island being without power, I don't know how a government 618 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 2: can survive if they can't provide the people electricity. I mean, 619 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 2: leave aside whatever the general perspective is of a government. 620 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 2: I think electricity is seen as such a foundational element 621 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 2: of basic life at this point in time that when 622 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 2: a government that is in power is unable to provide 623 00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 2: it at all or frankly consistently, it's hard not to 624 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 2: see that incongruity, particularly because buck everybody left behind in Cuba, 625 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 2: the eight point five million Cubans there, they see the 626 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 2: wealth that many of their Cuban family members live with 627 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 2: in South Florida, and that disconnect is I think more 628 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 2: problematic for Cuba than it ever has been before. Because 629 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 2: of the Internet, right, I know, the Internet. Obviously when 630 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 2: power's down, you're not able to get on it, but 631 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 2: you can see the difference between the way the average 632 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 2: person from Cuba lives in, for instance, South Florida, and 633 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 2: the way the average Cuban lives in Cuba and pre 634 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 2: internet and pre widely distributed video. Maybe you could buy 635 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 2: into the lie that you aren't living in a suboptimal condition. 636 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 2: Now I think it's way harder. I think the same thing. 637 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 2: This is the same argument I made about Iran. It's 638 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 2: one thing to see your country stink. It's another thing 639 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 2: to see other people who who are from your country 640 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 2: thrive in other places and wonder why you can't have 641 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 2: that too. And I think that's a real challenge unless 642 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 2: you can live in a cloistered state like North Korea 643 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 2: and try to restrict the ability of people to even 644 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 2: see what the larger world is like. People in Iran no, 645 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 2: people in Cuba no. And I think they are craving 646 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,919 Speaker 2: the same kind of wealth and opportunity that they see 647 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 2: their countrymen get elsewhere. 648 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: I mean, the quality of life would improve so dramatically 649 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: if you just opened it up to international markets and 650 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: had some kind of representative democracy and rule of law 651 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: and didn't have it's a mafia state. It's just a 652 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: mafia state. That's all it is. There are people at 653 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: the top who are in control and they get what 654 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: they need and they have what they want, and they 655 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: have power. And if you say anything about it, the 656 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: throw in prisoners, they kill you. That's it. Yes, it says, 657 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: it's not really Actually that guy had nothing to do. 658 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: There's no communists, blah blah blah, that's all garbage. It's 659 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: just a mafia state. 660 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 2: So we will see what could the future of Iran 661 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 2: look like. One of the people who's most plugged in 662 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 2: with trying to think about a future of Iran in 663 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,439 Speaker 2: a pro capitalistic world, what might that look like. We'll 664 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 2: talk with Shervin Pispahar when pisch Pahar when we come 665 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 2: back and have him break all that down for you. 666 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 2: Next here on Clay and Buck, and then we will 667 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 2: also talk with Clay Fuller, a fine named man who 668 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 2: is running in Georgia fourteen to replace Marjorie Taylor Green 669 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 2: in a North Georgia congressional district and what is likely 670 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 2: to be one of the ultimate battlegrounds of the mid 671 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 2: terms state of Georgia governor's race and a Senate race 672 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 2: with big battleground impacts. There all that more coming for 673 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 2: you next third hour