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Speaker 1: Welcome.

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Speaker 3: It is Wednesday, May seventeenth, and welcome to the Just

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Speaker 3: Baseball Show. I'm Peter Apple and that is arm Late

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Speaker 3: and and today is the mail bag. We asked you

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Speaker 3: to give us all the questions that you could on

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Speaker 3: Arm and I are ready to answer them. But first

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Speaker 3: Arm I have to read you a tweet. And while

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Speaker 3: I do think it's kind of a crap story, it

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Speaker 3: is the talk of baseball, at least on social media

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Speaker 3: and of course on all radio waves across the country.

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Speaker 3: So we're a baseball podcast and we have to talk

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Speaker 3: about it. But I'm going to start with a tweet

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Speaker 3: from Busser Only. There is an assumption on the Jays

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Speaker 3: side that their pitcher slash catcher, we're betraying the identity

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Speaker 3: of the fourth coming pitches last night, and that this

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Speaker 3: was being conveyed to Aaron Judge and this is why

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Speaker 3: he was glancing to his right for info. I don't

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Speaker 3: know what Buster only was trying to say there. I

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Speaker 3: can assume that he was saying that there might have

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Speaker 3: been something that the Blue Jays were tipping pitches, but

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Speaker 3: he used the word forthcoming and he used a lot

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Speaker 3: of big words that maybe I'm just not smart enough

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Speaker 1: Aaron Judge. Aaron Judge was accused of cheating, which is

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Speaker 1: a huge assessment. It's a huge assumption.

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Speaker 3: The fact that he was standing in the box on camera,

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Speaker 3: the Blue Jays announcers saw it too, he was glancing

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Speaker 3: over to his own dugout, and people on social media

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Speaker 3: readily assumed that he was cheating. Was he cheating Armleyton,

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. You know, we were talking about

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Speaker 3: it like before. I was like, I'm going to give

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Speaker 3: somebody the benefit of the doubt like nine times out

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Speaker 3: of ten when it comes to this stuff, especially when.

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Speaker 1: It's Aaron Judge. So Daron Judge does everything right.

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Speaker 2: And I think that there could have been a scenario

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Speaker 2: the dugout about hey, catcher set up here, maybe you

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Speaker 2: give them a little like shout about that that's not cheating,

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Speaker 2: that's baseball, Like that's always been part of it. If

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Speaker 2: they're not using video cameras and they're not using buzzers,

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Speaker 2: which that ends up being bs anyways. But just for example,

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Speaker 2: like if they're not using anything that's against the rules.

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Speaker 2: If you are that obvious with where you're setting up

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Speaker 2: and you are not, you know, being careful, how is

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Speaker 2: that any different than all of it, like looking at

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Speaker 2: that means curveball, and like he was tipping pitches. Also

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Speaker 2: really funny reply under the Buster Only thing, some guy

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Speaker 2: put in quotes betraying the identity of forthcoming pitches or

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Speaker 2: just tipping pitches. You got a word minimum like a

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Speaker 2: high school essay question mark, and then Buster Only said

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Speaker 2: do you need the text shorthand lol, omg does that

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Speaker 2: make it easier? So I just thought that was a

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Speaker 2: hilarious backing both. But but back to the main point,

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Speaker 2: like I don't think that there was anything agreed just

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Speaker 2: for them tipping the pitches or betraying the identity of

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Speaker 2: the forthcoming pitches, that's that's fair game, dude, Like, that's

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Speaker 2: that's totally fine, even if that was what was happening.

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Speaker 2: Like again, we're not talking about cameras and banging on

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Speaker 3: And talking about technology, it's increasingly harder to steal pitches

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Speaker 3: with the use of PitchCom right, there's no fingers. The

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Speaker 3: getting increasingly more challenging. To your point, if he was

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Speaker 3: I was watching the game and at the same time,

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Speaker 3: when he hit that home run, that was the sixth

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Speaker 2: Oh no, My favorite thing with the announcers. My favorite

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Speaker 2: thing with the Jays. We don't like to make these

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Speaker 3: Whenever you say something and then follow it with butt,

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Speaker 3: but you have to take everything that you just said

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Speaker 1: You're doing it, and you're their rival announcer. They want

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Speaker 1: to beat the Yankee. The Yankees were beating the hell

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Speaker 2: It was a great catch on the eyes, you know,

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Speaker 2: And I think that was something that was super interesting

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Speaker 2: within it. But at the same time, you know, like

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Speaker 2: if they were tipping their pitches, Aaron Judge isn't gonna

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Speaker 2: say postgame, oh yeah, they were tipping pitches. I was

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Speaker 2: getting a signal from the dugout. Again, that's legal. You

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Speaker 2: that's not cheating. They're not banning us from from you know,

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Speaker 2: the league getting that, but we're not forfeiting. That's just

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Speaker 2: if in football, Like there's so many examples, I don't

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Speaker 2: But that's not cheating, and that's I think the most

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Speaker 2: So yeah, Judge is not a cheater, and he is

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Speaker 3: Much, doesn't really need to So back to back things,

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Speaker 3: the Tim Anderson thing. People came out and said that

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Speaker 3: Tim Anderson said I hate this place. Then a couple

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Speaker 3: of days later, Aaron Judge's eyes glanced over at his

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Speaker 3: assume it's cheating. We can't just jump to these conclusions

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Speaker 3: it's confirmed that Aaron Judge was cheating, and he goes

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Speaker 3: to the commissioner's office and he says, Aaron Judge, you

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Speaker 3: got eight games of suspension, you got ten games of suspension.

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Speaker 1: We caught you.

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Speaker 3: We will go down on him, but until we get evidence,

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Speaker 3: we're not just going to to assume random shit. We're

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Speaker 3: not going to want to believe the controversy just for clicks.

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Speaker 3: That's not who we are as a company, and we

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Speaker 1: People.

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Speaker 3: We just have to be better because every radio show,

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Speaker 3: every radio show today is going to be saying that

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Speaker 3: ERAa Judge cheated and that Tim Anderson said I hate

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Speaker 3: this place and you have no evidence to do so.

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Speaker 2: Well, that gets more clicks.

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Speaker 1: That's more clicks.

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Speaker 2: The very rational and always calculated media and social media

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Speaker 1: He's on first base. You're wide open. He's gonna look

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Speaker 1: at Jose Brow you and say I hate this place.

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Speaker 2: Come on, come on, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Let's get into our our mail bag questions again, thank

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Speaker 3: you guys all for submitting them. And the first one

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Speaker 3: is a really good one. What is the best possible

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Speaker 3: Royals and the Oakland A's and we can't include guys

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Speaker 3: currently on the il Eli Sausman on our Twitter. Great question,

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Speaker 3: I'll put Brady Singer on my rotation.

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Speaker 2: He's got to be in there.

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Speaker 1: He's got to be on there.

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Speaker 3: I thought Chris Bubach was having a good start to

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Speaker 2: That caveat by Eli makes it so much harder, which

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Speaker 2: I love. By the way, for anyone who's listening, if

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Speaker 2: about fish Stripes. But for whatever reason, if that's somehow

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Speaker 2: unbelievable job covering the Marlins and that's all thanks to

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Speaker 2: what Eli Sussman does over there. But fantastic question from

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Speaker 2: Eli because it's giving me a headache. Brady Singer, but

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Speaker 2: how do you want to tackle this? So do you

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Speaker 2: want to go? Like from each team they like shoe in, Yes, Royals.

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Speaker 2: I think the shoe in is obviously Brady Singer, like

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Speaker 2: is is Zach Yankee is shoeing? I think so like

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Speaker 2: he has to be right, he has to be even

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Speaker 2: if he's not the two. Like he's gonna be one.

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Speaker 1: Of the five. He's gonna get out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we've got two there, we've got him. So

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Speaker 2: we've got singer, We've got granky, like JP. Sears is

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Speaker 2: a picture, he's a technically he does have he does

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Speaker 1: E r a under six. Can we eliminate.

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Speaker 2: Ricchinski by the way, like I've got on your betting

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Speaker 2: stream and now I'm like, that's my king fade like

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Speaker 2: that guy's throwing eighty eight not we're not putting richins.

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Speaker 1: He can't be in.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Jordan Lyles did throw a nine inning, four

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Speaker 3: earned outing the other day, followed by a seven earned

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Speaker 3: outing in like three innings. Technically he's his starting pitcher.

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Speaker 3: Arm he does. He does also have two arms. He

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Speaker 3: has two arms, and he throws for a major league team. Yes,

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Speaker 3: so singer, Okay, we got singer.

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Speaker 1: Rinky. I think like Sears is pretty decent. Sears has

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Speaker 3: I was always gonna say James Caprilli, but he was

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Speaker 3: optioned to triple A on the A's Yes, but.

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Speaker 1: I almost prefer him. I know, no, he hit a ten, dude,

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Speaker 1: this is insane joid. Lyles has to be the four. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Wayne Lyles in there.

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Speaker 2: and I would want to try him continuously as a

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Speaker 2: starter as well. But that fastball would routinely be triple digits,

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Speaker 2: and we know how nasty the stuff is. That was

439
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Speaker 2: the first name I thought of. I'm like, dude, Eddie Cabrera.

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Speaker 2: I think he would be ten times more valuable right now,

441
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Speaker 2: you know, just because of how much he struggled command

442
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Speaker 2: wise out of the bullpen. Another one that I thought of,

443
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Speaker 2: too was Tanner Houck and I know he's kind of

444
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Speaker 2: been back and forth, but right now they continue to

445
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Speaker 2: try to keep Hawk in the rotation because the Red

446
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Speaker 2: Sox don't have a lot of options. Have you seen

447
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Speaker 2: Hawke's numbers first time through the lineup, second time through

448
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Speaker 2: the lineup, third time through the lineup? It's like brutal.

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Speaker 2: Somebody tweeted it out recently, and I'll pull those numbers

450
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Speaker 2: up while you go through your guy. But off the top,

451
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Speaker 2: those two guys I thought instantly would be great high

452
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Speaker 2: leverage relievers. We've seen Hawk succeed out of the bullpen,

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Speaker 2: but man, he's been you know, pretty iffy second, third

454
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Speaker 2: time through the lineup as a starter, actually pretty terrible.

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Speaker 2: I'll pull that up now.

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Speaker 3: So my guy is not a guy who's ever going

457
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Speaker 3: to be in the bullpen, but it was someone who

458
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Speaker 3: works off a two pitch mix that is currently struggling

459
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Speaker 3: a little bit right now. And if he was moved

460
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Speaker 3: into the bullpen, I think there's a possibility he could

461
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Speaker 3: go down as the greatest closer of all time, or

462
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Speaker 3: at least very similar to like an Edwin Diez type

463
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Speaker 3: that's a hard a Green like Hunter. Green is fastball

464
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Speaker 3: and slider and he's setting records for the amount of

465
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Speaker 3: times he's hit one hundred miles an hour in the rotation.

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Speaker 3: Imagine just in short spurts in the bullpen, he would

467
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Speaker 3: throw one hundred and five miles an hour with a

468
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Speaker 3: ninety two mile hour slider. He would be unhittable in

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Speaker 3: one inning spurts. And for my believer that I think

470
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Speaker 3: could move into the rotation. And this is really off

471
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Speaker 3: the cuff. This is a guy who I've just been

472
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Speaker 3: watching for a while now, and he's got a three

473
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Speaker 3: pitch mix that I like all of these different pitches.

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Speaker 1: He's not super high effort.

475
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Speaker 3: He doesn't rely on velocity in the bullpen, like he

476
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Speaker 3: doesn't just rely on electric stuff to get guys out

477
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Speaker 3: in one inning spurts. I think Trevor Stefan of the

478
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 3: Cleveland Guardians could actually move into the rotation if needed. Now,

479
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Speaker 3: he never will because he is a great bullpen arm.

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Speaker 3: But he's a guy with a fastball, a slider, and

481
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Speaker 3: a split finger, and the fastball isn't that great of

482
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Speaker 3: a pitch. That's probably why he long term wouldn't be

483
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Speaker 3: able to get a ton of outs in the starting rotation.

484
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Speaker 3: But I think he has two very good offspeed pitches,

485
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Speaker 3: whether that be the slider and whether it be the

486
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Speaker 3: split finger, and he throws both of those offerings north

487
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Speaker 3: of twenty percent of the time, with his slider being

488
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Speaker 3: at twenty nine percent. He's not going to be a starter,

489
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Speaker 3: but when I watch him and I come in, I

490
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Speaker 3: see him coming in different innings. I sometimes se him

491
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Speaker 3: in two inning sports. I'm like, you could get outs

492
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Speaker 3: over five innings.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So that's a guy who nobody was thinking about for

495
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Speaker 3: this question who I brought to the table. I'm like,

496
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Speaker 3: I could see it. Will it happened? No, that I

497
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Speaker 3: see it? Absolutely? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's the thing with the other side of

499
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Speaker 2: it is like the relievers, like the relievers for a reason.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I could choose Kegan Thompson or at Berdol's lie,

501
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Speaker 3: or like guys who were starters who moved to the ball,

502
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Speaker 3: but would be like, well he was a starter. Yeah,

503
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Speaker 3: so he could be a starter. Again, I picked a

504
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Speaker 3: guy who's never been a starter, but maybe.

505
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Speaker 2: And for a similar reason, I think, and there's no

506
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Speaker 2: reason if it ain't broke, don't fix it. He's one

507
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Speaker 2: of the best relievers in the game right now and

508
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Speaker 2: has been for the last few years.

509
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Speaker 1: But David Bednar, he's got a good three pitch mix.

510
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Speaker 2: Like if you had to, like, let's say emergency scenario,

511
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Speaker 2: David Bednar has to start and you're in game seven,

512
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Speaker 2: or you got to stretch him out, Like that's a

513
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Speaker 2: guy that I think could be stretched out multiple times

514
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Speaker 2: through a lineup because fastball is fantastic. He's got a curveball,

515
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Speaker 2: and then he's got the splitter. So it's a legit

516
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Speaker 2: three pitch mix that he uses pretty well, and all

517
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Speaker 2: three of which are pretty solid. The splitter has been

518
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Speaker 2: you know a little bit if he compared to what

519
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Speaker 2: it was last year, but I'll go with the larger

520
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Speaker 2: sample size last year where it was spectacular. So he's

521
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Speaker 2: got a legit three pitch mix there. And then I

522
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Speaker 2: also have the Tanner Hawk numbers. I think how could

523
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Speaker 2: be like a legit closer or like a legit setup

524
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Speaker 2: man with how nasty that that sweeper is. First time

525
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Speaker 2: through the order this year, nineteen and two thirds innings,

526
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Speaker 2: he's faced seventy two batters. He has a point nine

527
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Speaker 2: two era opponents are slashing one O nine one ninety

528
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Speaker 2: four one five. This comes from Tyler Milliken on Twitter

529
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Speaker 2: second time threw the lineup fifteen innings pitched, seventy two

530
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Speaker 2: batters faced a five point four oh opponents are hitting

531
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Speaker 2: three sixty nine four oh eight five point twenty three.

532
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Speaker 2: He's a reliever, man, and.

533
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Speaker 1: He'd be a damn good one.

534
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Speaker 2: So I know the Red Sox needs starters, but I mean,

535
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Speaker 2: I've said it for a while, like, I think how

536
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Speaker 2: could be a fantastic reliever.

537
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Speaker 1: One more guy again will never be a starter.

538
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Speaker 3: I mean maybe I think Brian Obray, who could just

539
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Speaker 3: be like Christian Javier if they put him in their

540
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Speaker 3: rotation for private eggs. He's just so damn nasty, Like

541
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Speaker 3: he's a two pitch guy. Of course, he throws his

542
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 3: curveball about seven percent of the time, so technically he

543
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 3: could be a three pitch guy, but he is just

544
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Speaker 3: so damn discussing that. I'm like, when he comes in

545
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Speaker 3: with these two inning spurts, I'm like, nobody's touching shit.

546
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Speaker 3: So like, maybe if he just did it for four

547
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Speaker 3: or five in eggs, that like he could give you

548
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 3: close to quality starts. I really do think, because he

549
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 3: is just so disgusting. He's still young, his arms still alive,

550
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Speaker 3: like if he threw you know, if he started every

551
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Speaker 3: sixth day and went four inning, I think he'd finished

552
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 3: the year with.

553
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: Like a two ye or a no'. That would be crazy.

554
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Speaker 3: All right, Before we get into our next question, because

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Speaker 3: we have four more, we got to talk about arms

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Speaker 2: Week for me last week, which is annoying, but really

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Speaker 1: For my team, it's been a one man show. It's

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Speaker 1: been Ronald Acunia Junior.

586
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Speaker 2: So if you're drafting your team for the first time,

587
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Speaker 2: definitely draft Ronie. My other guys have been letting me down.

588
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Speaker 2: I think I think Luisa Rise is like four for

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Speaker 2: his last twenty four, so that's been cooking me.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, we're really excited about this.

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Speaker 3: the Just Baseball Show. Let's move on to a guy

599
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Speaker 3: who is struggling. And sometimes we get so many questions

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Speaker 3: about the same player. So this comes from Hugh Montgomery

601
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Speaker 3: on Instagram, but I said and others because this particular

602
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Speaker 3: player was the most asked of why he is struggling

603
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 3: right now, and that is Alec Manoa of the Toronto

604
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Speaker 3: Blue Jays. So the question is what's going on with

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Speaker 3: Alec Manoa and why is he struggling so much? So

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Speaker 3: at the beginning of the season, right I pointed out,

607
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 3: hey arem hey Jack manoah could run into some potential

608
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: issues next year because a lot of his underlying metrics.

609
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Speaker 3: It's not like I'm some genius and I brought this

610
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Speaker 3: to you. We all knew it is just I think

611
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: we were just talking about it and it was like, hey,

612
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 3: the XCRA is good about higher the fit the except

613
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 3: all these different numbers kind of point to some regression,

614
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Speaker 3: but not this level of progression. Like I even think

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Speaker 3: the biggest Alec Manoa hater in the entire world could

616
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Speaker 3: have never projected as we sit here today that he

617
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Speaker 3: has a five to four zero ERA and the highest

618
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Speaker 3: XCRA in all of baseball at seven point zero five.

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Speaker 3: We didn't think that his walk rate would go from

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Speaker 3: six and a half percent to fifteen percent this year,

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Speaker 3: one of the highest in Major League Baseball, ranks in

622
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Speaker 3: the eighth percent of walk rate. We didn't think that

623
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Speaker 3: his strikeout rate would drop by seven percent. We didn't

624
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Speaker 3: think his hard hit rate would go up by ten percent.

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Speaker 3: We didn't think that every single metric would go from

626
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Speaker 3: very solid to the worst in baseball. Yeah, and when

627
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Speaker 3: you watch him pitch, it's not just oh, he's walking

628
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Speaker 3: guys like he's sometimes nowhere near the plate. These like

629
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Speaker 3: two team sinker type fast balls just fly out of

630
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 3: the zone. He's not able to locate the slider. And

631
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Speaker 3: there's some like if you watch like a you know,

632
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Speaker 3: a compilation of all his strikeouts, like this stuff is

633
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 3: still there. He's not just some bum now. But with

634
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Speaker 3: the lack of command, with hitters teeing up his sinker

635
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 3: so often and his fastball, it has been a horrific

636
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Speaker 3: year for him. And when you watch him pitch, you

637
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Speaker 3: don't think, all right, he's just getting kind of unlucky

638
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 3: and he'll be back next start. You're like, how is

639
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: this guy going to get out? Is it a pitchclock thing?

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Speaker 3: Is it just the regression monster is after him? Like

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Speaker 3: what have you seen from?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Noah, dude.

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Speaker 2: I think what you kind of hit on there is

645
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Speaker 2: the big key is the command is just gone. He's

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Speaker 2: landing his slider, which you know that was the go

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Speaker 2: to pitch, that's the wipeout pitch. He's landing it for

648
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: a strike forty nine percent of the time. So you

649
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Speaker 2: mentioned the slider, or excuse me, the sinker getting destroyed.

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Speaker 2: That's the one pitch he is throwing for a strike.

651
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Speaker 2: So guys are just sitting on the sinker, sitting on

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Speaker 2: the fastball and saying, yeah, all right, buddy, I dare

653
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 2: you to locate that slider or change of You can't.

654
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 2: You can't, and he can't right now. So guys are

655
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: just sitting dead red on the fastball and crushing it.

656
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: And that's the craziest part. I'm just so surprised that

657
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 2: this slider, which was so dynamite last year and opponent's

658
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: had a buck ninety against it now three seventy. Yeah,

659
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: like the expected stats against the slider were not good.

660
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: Like you would have figured that pitch would always be

661
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 2: there for him. It's not like he really just doesn't

662
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 2: have a feel for it. I'm shocked that he is

663
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: only landing at first strike forty nine percent of the time.

664
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: I mean that is like, that is rough. That's a

665
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 2: full thirteen percent below what he had last year in

666
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: terms of landing at first strike. So something's off with

667
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: his delivery, something's off with you know, his release point,

668
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: and he just can't find it right now. And I

669
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 2: feel for him because he's a special We saw what

670
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: he did last year. You don't pitch to a low

671
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 2: twos by accident in the major leagues. You just don't

672
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: do it. But like, and we figured he might regress

673
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 2: a little bit, But if every expected stat went the

674
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: way like it did this year, he'd still be having

675
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: a decent season.

676
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 3: Like a seven like a three to five yard he'd

677
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 3: be like a three five R guy, which is like

678
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 3: we're like, yeah, he's not the two to two guy,

679
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 3: but like he's still pretty good. Like a three five

680
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 3: R over one hundred and eighty innings, that'd be a

681
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 3: great year.

682
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just five four seven oh five expected, Like,

683
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: this is a guy that's really fighting himself right now.

684
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 2: I'm very worried about him.

685
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 3: Like, I know the Yankees have been hot lately sort

686
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 3: of in the past couple of games, but alec Minoa

687
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 3: usually pitches really well against the Yankees, and they fucked

688
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 3: him up. Yeah, It's just it's such a weird thing

689
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 3: to watch because the numbers back it up, and then

690
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 3: when you watch him, he looks like a completely different pitcher.

691
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 3: He doesn't look like he has that. He doesn't look

692
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 3: like he has the confidence and his stuff. And like

693
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 3: you're saying about the slider, first of all, he's not

694
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: throwing it for a strike even close to the amount

695
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 3: that he was last year. But the thing is he's

696
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 3: trying to now force it in the middle because he's like,

697
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 3: I gotta keep doing the slider, like it's my best pitch.

698
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 3: I just got to put in the strikes on. So

699
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 3: he's leaving at middle and opponents are hitting three seventy

700
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 3: against it. You just it's a complete switch up. So

701
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 3: as we sit here today, are you what's your confidence

702
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 3: level that he makes it back to.

703
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: Even an R in or four this year.

704
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: I'm I'm worried. I don't know if he makes it

705
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: back under four, you know, in the grand scheme, I

706
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: think he figures it out. I think he works through it.

707
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: You just believe in him and like you have to like.

708
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 2: But I think this could just when it's all same,

709
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 2: like I might. I think he finishes with a low

710
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 2: fours when we say this was an ugly year, but

711
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: he finished strong, Like I think that's what's going to happen,

712
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: because like right now he's hitting the worst point, Like

713
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: he's not getting better yet. He walks seventy Yankees last Star. Yeah,

714
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: that's not going to get better anytime, and he's gonna

715
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 2: have to work through it. But also look at Barrios,

716
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: like we saw Barrio struggle and the Blue Jays didn't

717
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 2: really help him get out of it that much for

718
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 2: the entirety of the year. Uh So I think this

719
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: might take a while. Grand scheme, Nona, I think he'll

720
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: be okay. He's a hard worker, he knows what he's

721
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: doing is he's a very good pitcher. He's very talented.

722
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 2: But whatever he's working through right now, I think it's

723
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 2: going to take some time. So I think this is

724
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: the end of the day. I don't think he finishes

725
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 2: below four this year.

726
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: I don't think so either.

727
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 3: And the Blue Jays are in trouble because they of

728
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 3: course have Gosman, who's an absolute stud ace in our league.

729
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 3: But then like Kakuchi has been better, but a couple

730
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: of bluffs recently better, thank you. Chris Bassett has been

731
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 3: unbelievable lately. I even apologize on Twitter because I was like,

732
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 3: I have a weird feeling that he's not gonna have

733
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 3: a very good year this year, but he has. He

734
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 3: started off really, really poorly over his past couple of

735
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 3: starts he had, and I didn't give him enough credit

736
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 3: for this because we brought up the Strider point and

737
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: just like you know, I was making the comparisons and

738
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 3: I didn't give Chris Bassett the do That performance against

739
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 3: the Braves was one of the best starts of the

740
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 3: year of any pitcher.

741
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: He was unbelievably good.

742
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was runners on base at certain points and

743
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 3: he got out of, you know, some jams, but at

744
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 3: the same time, that's the Braves. He didn't throw nine inning,

745
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 3: you know, couple hits performance against the with all due

746
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 3: respect the Oakland A's the reds or teams like that

747
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 3: this was the Braves.

748
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: Theyre's gonna be.

749
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 3: Guys on for the for the fact that he limited

750
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 3: that damage really really impressive, and he's going to be

751
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 3: huge for the Blue Jays moving forward, considering that Alec

752
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,959
Speaker 3: Mineau is probably a four to two guy when it's.

753
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: All sudden done there, And if you take out that

754
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 2: first start, which was a fucking disaster where he gave

755
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 2: up nine earned runs, he's been.

756
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: Pretty damn good since then.

757
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's ried six innings almost every single start except

758
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 2: for one where he went five against the Mariners, and

759
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 2: then the last two starts he's gone seven and he's

760
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: got nine. So I mean, he's been helping keep them

761
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: afloat right now, which is huge because the rest of

762
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 2: the rotation outside of Gosman, you know, has been pretty

763
00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: shaky and.

764
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 3: The Blue Jays have a very good But the length

765
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 3: that he's giving too, it's not just like five innings

766
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 3: of one run ball, it's seven, it's eight, it's nine innings.

767
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 3: So shout out Chris Bassett. I was definitely wrong, but

768
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 3: we'll see how it ends up. Next question, what are

769
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 3: your thoughts on a possible Mike Soroka call up considering

770
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 3: the Braves recent rotation injuries. Assuming he is called up,

771
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 3: do you think he will be good enough to stay

772
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 3: up after free to and write return? As by shay

773
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: Oz on Instagram. So, I personally have quit following the

774
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 3: Mike Soroka thing. It's just injury after injury, and like

775
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 3: I always keep an eye on it. In the back

776
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 3: of my head, I'm like, when is Mike Soroka coming up?

777
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 3: But as soon as we get good news, I feel

778
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 3: like we always see bad news. Yeah, So unfortunately for me,

779
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 3: you know, I'm caught up on the Max Freed injury,

780
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 3: on the Kyle Wright injury. I know what's going on

781
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 3: currently with the Braves, But are you caught up on

782
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 3: what's been happening with Mike Soroka And do you see

783
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 3: him making an impact this year?

784
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 2: I think he can be of value as like that

785
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 2: swingman for them in terms of just you know, spot

786
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: start when you really need it, you know, a disaster

787
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: game where you don't want to kill the bullpen. He

788
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: can eat innings. But in terms of being a guy

789
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: in that five man rotation, like I don't think I

790
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 2: don't think Soroca looks like that. You look at his

791
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: last three starts. These are a couple okay starts. So

792
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 2: I started went four innings of three run ball to start.

793
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 2: Before that, he went four innings of three run ball.

794
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: But doing that in Triple A's that's not really going

795
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: to point you towards the rotation. And then the game

796
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 2: before that three innings, ten hits, eight runs, seven earned,

797
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: no walks, one K. But then before that he went

798
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 2: six innings, so he's been very back and forth. There's

799
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 2: a guy that's torn hiss Achilles twice, so I feel

800
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: like his body is, you know, maybe not always going

801
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: to be in perfect shape every start, and we kind

802
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: of see the discrepancies there. Some starts he's ninety one

803
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: ninety two. Other starts he's ninety three, ninety four. I

804
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 2: will say the last two starts have been the only

805
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: time this year really where he's been back to back

806
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 2: ninety three mile an hour and above you know, average

807
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: fastball velocity. So that's something to watch. But I think

808
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: counting on him as a rotation piece would be a mistake.

809
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: Like I don't think they're going to do that, but

810
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 2: I do think you could give them some like big

811
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: league value as a multi inning reliever. A guy that

812
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 2: gets ground balls and you can just help clean up

813
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: the mess, like be that Janitor pitcher for you.

814
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 1: It's just sad.

815
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 3: This guy was one of the great young pitchers when

816
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 3: he first came up, finished in the top five of

817
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 3: rookie in the year voting in the National League. Look

818
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 3: like that next great young starting pitcher to pair with

819
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 3: a guy like Max Freed, like Kyle Wright, wasn't in

820
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 3: the conversation at that point. Like this is dating back years.

821
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 3: What was this twenty nineteen where Mike Soroka was doing

822
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 3: what he was doing? Yep, and then ever since then,

823
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 3: it's just injury after injury, and I'm glad to see

824
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 3: him doing being healthy. But at the same time, if

825
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 3: you're not getting triple A hitters out consistently, like you're

826
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 3: a major league pitcher, this should be rehab for you.

827
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,479
Speaker 3: This should be moderately easy. And the fact that he's

828
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 3: struggling at that level doesn't give me confidence that facing

829
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 3: big leaguers in the major leagues and really good teams,

830
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 3: that he's going to perform well. And I know that

831
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 3: there's injuries within the Braves rotation, but I think the

832
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 3: trade market is where they're going to pounce rather than

833
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 3: relying on Mike Soroka to look like twenty nineteen Soroca again.

834
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I just and also like it might

835
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 2: take a year for him to like fully get back,

836
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't throw him into the fire, Like maybe

837
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: it's good for him to build up and pitch the

838
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: whole year in Triple A and just try to get

839
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: anywhere near where he once was. I mean, there's a

840
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: pretty catastrophic injury there, So yeah, I just think it

841
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: would be throwing him into the fire. What sucks for

842
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 2: the Braves though, is Dylan Dodd has been really bad,

843
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: like really bad in Triple So I agree like they

844
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 2: might have to go outside. And it sucks because Kyle

845
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 2: Wright looks like he really figured it out and then

846
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 2: you know, doesn't get to enjoy those rewards. But you

847
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 2: look at the last handful of starts from Dyan Dodd,

848
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: it's been rough the last two He's giving up a

849
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 2: combined twelve earned runs and sixteen hits. So I think

850
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to look outside, and it's gonna be

851
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: really interesting. I think Shuster can hold it down, but

852
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: Dodd all of a sudden has come to back down

853
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 2: to Earth and just doesn't look like a rotation because

854
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 2: we're debating Shuster or DoD maybe both both end up

855
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: making it with the injuries and now it's just Shuster,

856
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 2: so they got some stuff to figure out there. But

857
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: you know, Alexanthopolos always cooks man, he always.

858
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 3: That's that's why, like I worried about the Braves and

859
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 3: Braise fans. When you have Alexanthopolis at the helme and

860
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 3: you still have a Strider, you still have Morton spinning

861
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 3: this unbelievable curveball, you know, every single every fifth day

862
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: on stream. I've been a culprit of this. Other people

863
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 3: have too, Charlie Morton is XCRA. He's due for aggression.

864
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 3: I'm like, he just keeps spinning that curveball and he's saying,

865
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 3: screw your expectedty, all right, Like he just keeps shoving

866
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 3: and Bryce held the same thing.

867
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 1: These guys are just getting out.

868
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 3: So they have those three and they're going to get

869
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 3: right and freed back at some point. And Soroca would

870
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 3: just be the cherry on top of the Sunday if

871
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 3: he can give you anything. Because they still have Shuster,

872
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 3: they still have DoD so it's like they can weather

873
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 3: the storm. And then of course they're going to be

874
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 3: in the trade market. So for the Braves, I'm not

875
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 3: worried at all. For Mike Soroka the player, I'm a

876
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 3: little bit worried right now, but I'm hoping for the best.

877
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the good news is that he's on

878
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 2: the mound pitching every fifth day and not feeling any

879
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 2: physical issues. I think you've got to give him, give

880
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: him fifteen to twenty starts, and then reassess.

881
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: Let's do time off.

882
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 3: Sixth question perfect for all armland. What are some prospects

883
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 3: that could come up and make an impact right now

884
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 3: for teams that are struggling. We just saw Matt McLean

885
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 3: come up. I know that you guys spoke about that

886
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 3: on the last show for the Cincinnati Reds, but I

887
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 3: know Reds fans are clamoring for Christian and Karnassi on strand.

888
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 3: I know Guardians fans want to see bow Naylor up.

889
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 3: Who are a lot of the guys for teams right

890
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 3: now that are struggling, who you think have prospects ready

891
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 3: to contribute right now?

892
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

893
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: So I'm looking at the Mets, specifically with Dan Vogelbach,

894
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: their platoon DH who can't run, and Mark Vientos is

895
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: going crazy right now, like going nuts in triple A,

896
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: and I think has answered everything that he's needed to answer.

897
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 2: Like last year he put up great numbers in triple

898
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: but struggled against breaking balls, and you know then we

899
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 2: saw him kind of struggle in the big leagues. Now

900
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: he's crushing breaking balls and his OPS is up like

901
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: three four hundred points against breaking balls. So I think

902
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: Vantos is ready as again. Seems like he homer's every

903
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 2: single day, his strikeout rates way down, his power outputs

904
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: somehow up. He's walking like Vianto's. To me, is like

905
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: the number one guy who I think could really make

906
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 2: an impact for a team that's that's pretty much big

907
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: league ready. You mentioned Christian and Carnassian. I think he

908
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 2: could absolutely help Libertre we've mentioned with the Cardinals, I

909
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 2: think he could absolutely help. And then one other name

910
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 2: that's interesting. I know that the Orioles have like kind

911
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 2: of this crazy logjam and they just sent down Kyle Stowers,

912
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 2: who has been struggling a little bit. But I think

913
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: Colton Kawser looks just about ready. You don't have to

914
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 2: put him in against leftis. He can be the right

915
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 2: side of the platoon, but he can play all three

916
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: outfield spots. He hits the crap out of the base

917
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 2: ball his field. It hits pretty good. I know the

918
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 2: strikeout rate's pretty high, but he strikes me as the

919
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 2: guy that'll be able to make that transition. Colton Kowser

920
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,439
Speaker 2: with the Orioles is another guy that I think he's

921
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: just about ready.

922
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: And then I don't know why TODJ.

923
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 2: Bradley's and the Miners. I know you had a couple

924
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: of rough starts, but like that guy needs to be up,

925
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 2: Like let him walk through it at the big, bigue level.

926
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 2: He can help you.

927
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 3: Now, what about I know a couple of those players

928
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 3: that I mentioned, christian En Carnacion Strand with the Reds,

929
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 3: like they just called up McClain. Yeah, calling up Brandon

930
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 3: Williamson today. Do you think he's next up? Or do

931
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 3: you think maybe not so ready yet?

932
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: I think Carna Strand should be the next guy up.

933
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: I think we were talking about that might have been

934
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: on yesterday episode. And what I like about him is

935
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: like he's always been somebody that doesn't walk and people

936
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 2: are gonna say, oh, well, let's wait for him to

937
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 2: walk more let's see the approach get better. He's never

938
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 2: walked and he's always hit, so I think it's now, like,

939
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: what else does he have to prove. Let's just see

940
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 2: if he can do it at the big league level.

941
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 2: There's nothing else to prove. He's not going to magically

942
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 2: start walking. Now. He is succeeding with the way that

943
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: he approaches the game, with the way he approaches at bats.

944
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 2: Let's see if it works at the big league level.

945
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: That guy has foulpul to falulpol power and they need

946
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: some help at first. Obviously, I think he can make

947
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 2: them better right now. I don't see why they don't

948
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 2: call up in Karnacion Tran. That's another one. I think

949
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: it's just about ready phenomenal. All Right, we got our

950
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 2: last question. It's an easy one, and tos asked by

951
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 2: pretty much everyone.

952
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 3: So Alec Manoa was the most common player that was

953
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 3: asked in our comment section, and this team was easily

954
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 3: easily the most asked team. And apparently you guys were

955
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 3: ripping them yesterday and for good reason. It's been a

956
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 3: clown show. But they're playing better baseball. So the question

957
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 3: is are the Cardinals back? Asked by everyone? Yeah, it's

958
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 3: so they did win eighteen to one against the Milwaukee

959
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 3: Burs and they are playing bass. I even tweeted out

960
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 3: because I wanted to get Cardinals Nation fired up because

961
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 3: they should be excited, right, Like you went through just

962
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 3: a horrible, horrible couple of weeks. You couldn't win it all.

963
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 3: You're rattling off like loss after loss after loss, and

964
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 3: everything was coming down. But then on Sunday Night Baseball,

965
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 3: they play really well in that Red Sox series. They

966
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 3: play really well, and then they turn around in a

967
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: supposed letdown spot and put up eighteen runs. And that

968
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 3: was Jack Flaherty against Freddy Peralta, a matchup they just

969
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 3: lost not too long ago.

970
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: Freddy.

971
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 3: We just he strikes out ten, strikes out ten, six

972
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 3: dominant innings seven, Yeah, I think it was seven. It

973
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 3: was seven. They're heating back up again. It's just and

974
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 3: shut up Paul Goldschmidt for a minute. Like everyone wants

975
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:02,959
Speaker 3: to talk about Aaron Otto, and for good reason, because

976
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 3: he wasn't looking good and he's been absolutely on fire lately.

977
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 3: Not taking away anything from him, but Paul Goldschmid again

978
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 3: is having kind of an under the radar type season.

979
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 3: You know, with turmoil in Saint Louis, he's getting older.

980
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 3: You know, the quality of contact last year was a

981
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 3: little bit suspect. It's like, eh, is he gonna do

982
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 3: it again? Yeah, he's doing it again, and he's proving

983
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 3: why he's on a Hall of Fame track.

984
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: Yep, he's he's really like what he has done in

985
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 2: the second phase of his career has really put him

986
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 2: right on the coop. Amazing because he was he was

987
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 2: a guy that you know, kind of broke in a

988
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 2: little bit later for the Hall of Fame types, because

989
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 2: he really had his first full season at twenty four,

990
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: but really didn't get rolling until twenty five. And you know,

991
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 2: as a hitter like him, you got to really really

992
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 2: do it from like twenty three to forty to be

993
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,439
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer. And he has to be really

994
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 2: good on the back half of his career. And he's

995
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 2: like playing his best baseball now at age thirty four

996
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: to thirty five and hopefully onward. This guy's pretty much

997
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: putting himself on that down track.

998
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 3: I think he's figured he's figured out hitting. Yeah, that's right,

999
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 3: Like Freddy Freeman. These guys they've figured it out and

1000
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 3: themselves like they just figured to get out times.

1001
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's unbelievable, the.

1002
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: Best version of themselves unbelievable.

1003
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 2: The one thing I will say about the Cardinals, we

1004
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 2: ripped them and it was more about the the Wilson

1005
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 2: Conrara situation. I think it's a great sign that this

1006
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 2: team is showing signs of life and that offensive on

1007
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 2: spot was awesome. But we were saying it from this

1008
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 2: one is like if they turn things around, make the

1009
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 2: playoffs and then get bounced again, like Jolie Marmal in

1010
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 2: the hot seat, Absolutely, yeah. So that's the one side

1011
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 2: of it. The flip side is they look good. The

1012
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: offense looks good. Aaronatto's coming alive, and I think we're

1013
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 2: going to get to the point where the Cardinals are

1014
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 2: going to be what we thought they were initially, which

1015
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 2: is really good offense. Pitching is a little suspect, and

1016
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 2: you know, is this team built for the playoffs? How

1017
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 2: do they answer that? So I will say, like, I

1018
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: don't think this team's doomed. I think that there is

1019
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 2: going to be some ups and downs. I'm interested to

1020
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 2: see how it continues. But they're not going to score

1021
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 2: A team runs every game. They're not going to come

1022
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 2: back in the ninth every single game like they did

1023
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 2: multiple times against Kenley Jansen. You can't win that way.

1024
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: That's not sustainable. I'm glad to see them showing signs

1025
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 2: of life, but they still got to address some issues,

1026
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 2: and you know, hopefully things are starting to get a

1027
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 2: little bit better inside the clubhouse there too.

1028
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: Here's my one problem with the Cardinals. One game winner,

1029
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: take all.

1030
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 3: And maybe this will never be a thing, but in

1031
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 3: the playoffs it certainly will matter who's starting Game one.

1032
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 2: Jack Flaherty not Jordan Montgomery.

1033
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't be it.

1034
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 2: You're guaranteed at a disadvantage.

1035
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 3: Guaranteed at a disadvantage, and like, your offense has to

1036
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 3: be so unbelievable, your bullpen has to be so unbelievable,

1037
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,439
Speaker 3: your defense has to be so unbelievable just to get by.

1038
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 3: And like, that's why I look at the Cardinals and

1039
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 3: I say, this doesn't seem like a team that, even

1040
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 3: if they make the playoff, will be competitive. Do I

1041
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 3: think they can be competitive in the regular season? Absolutely?

1042
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 3: Do I still like them as a team. Absolutely? Do

1043
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 3: I still love watching them? Absolutely?

1044
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:09,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah?

1045
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 3: But the central is wide open and That's why it's

1046
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 3: one of the more exciting races in Major League Baseball.

1047
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: You got the.

1048
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 3: Cardinals, you got the Cubs, you got the Brewers, and

1049
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 3: you still got the Pirates just hanging in there. And

1050
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 3: who knows, maybe the Reds call up at Cardossio Strand

1051
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 3: and he is sixty hobrods.

1052
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: Who knows.

1053
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 2: In Call up Eli two just yeah, bring up that

1054
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 2: whole a team.

1055
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, call up d your rabbit.

1056
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 2: I think it's I think they're you know, it's they're

1057
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 2: showing signs of life. That's good, but this team still

1058
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 2: got a lot of things to figure out. And you know,

1059
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 2: I think it's good that they can try to tread water,

1060
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 2: get close to five hundred, the divisions wide open, but

1061
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 2: they got to address a lot of things. So I'll

1062
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 2: say Cardinals are showing important signs of life, because if

1063
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 2: they weren't doing this by now, they're gonna, you know,

1064
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 2: by the end of May, we would have had to

1065
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: start to sound the alarms and say, you know, they're cooked.

1066
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: I think they're showing signs of life, but they're still going.

1067
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 2: To need more. They're going to need to get you know,

1068
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 2: kind of a wind at their back. Now that they're

1069
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 2: climbing out of this hole. I'm interested to see how

1070
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 2: they do that. But aeronauto heating up, I think is

1071
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 2: a huge, huge, huge step for them in that process

1072
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 2: as well.

1073
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: And that'll do it.

1074
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,280
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Speaker 3: Come play fantasy baseball with the boys. Yeah, get your

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Speaker 1: Yeah, leave a written review ahead. Someone give us a

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Speaker 1: one star.

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Speaker 2: And said we talk about football too much, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: That was so mean.

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Speaker 2: So like one episode we talked about the NFL Draft

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Speaker 2: for like ten minutes, Like leave a rating and say

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Speaker 2: but like, at least that would be for a good reason.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, if you can, if you can help

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Speaker 2: us get back from that one star, that one hurt.

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Speaker 3: That one hurt, We're gonna make it back. Appreciate you

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Speaker 3: guys all listening. Remember all The links are in the

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Speaker 3: would like to see from us, and with that, thank

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