1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Getty, Armstrong and Jetide 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: and now he Armstrong and Jetty a man who craves 4 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: leisure donated fifty dollars. That's Joe's line. That's pretty fun. Yes, 5 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: I am that. More on the fundraiser for Scouts a 6 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: little bit later, go to Armstrong in getty dot com. 7 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: Did you know that Barack Obama was in office the 8 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: last time we've been this late in the NFL season 9 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: without a single division locked up, It's been over. It's 10 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: been a decade since we've been this late in the 11 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: NFL season three weeks ago without a single division locked up, 12 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: and some of the most consequential games in ten years 13 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: coming up this weekend in terms of regular season football. 14 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you a little bit about that if 15 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: you're at all a fan, or you if you're like 16 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: me and you kind of joined late in the season 17 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: and figure out what you know, what's exciting? Tonight's game 18 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: is huge, like really huge. But more on that later. Okay, 19 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: great exciting. So I think we're all aware of dynamic pricing, 20 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: particularly if we use like Uber Left or one of 21 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: those ride shares. So we understand that, you know, when 22 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: the football game's getting out, it's going to be more 23 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: expensive to get yourself ride than you know, two o'clock 24 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: and your average Tuesday afternoon. But it's much more widespread, 25 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: much more sophisticated than I think a lot of us thought. 26 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: We were all shocked when Wendy started doing this and 27 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: I got a like, well, they talked about it. I 28 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: got it like a twelve dollars Hamburger at six o'clock 29 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: one time, really. 30 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: Because they denied that they ever implemented it. M I 31 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: don't think that them is always twelve dollars. So there's 32 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: a little editorializing in this article. But for instance, the 33 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: word shady here. Instagram has been using a shady AI 34 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: algorithm that charges different prices to I'm sorry, instacart, different 35 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: prices do different customers on the same grocery item in 36 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: the same stores without telling them, according to a new 37 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 2: study released by Consumer Reports and another organization earlier this week, 38 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 2: at a Target store in North Kanton, Ohio, for example, 39 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 2: the popular grocery app charged one customer two ninety nine 40 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:32,119 Speaker 2: for Skippy Creamy peanut butter I eat organic peanut butter 41 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 2: because I'm better than you, but eat your skippy if 42 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: you musk and. 43 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: I don't like creamy. I like the nuts, I like 44 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: lots of peanuts in my peanut butter. I do enjoy 45 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: the crunchy myself. 46 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, so one customer got charged two ninety nine, while 47 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: other instacrt users paid as much as three point fifty 48 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: nine for the same jar picked up from the same 49 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: location the same day, the study found. And my question, 50 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: of course is how did the algorithm decide? What did 51 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: it use to decide to charge more to some people? 52 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 3: Will? 53 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: We will get to that in a minute. Let me 54 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 2: hit you with a couple more examples. It's not just instacart. 55 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 2: So called dynamic pricing practices have been used by the 56 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: ride shares Las Vegas, convenience stores, children's museums and zoos, 57 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 2: and even your local grocery stores. Whole foods, Amazon Fresh, 58 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: and Kroger have already rolled out electronic price tags that 59 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: allow workers to raise shelf prices in a matter of minutes, 60 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 2: and Walmart said it's planning to add the tags two 61 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: thousands of stores by twenty twenty six, so you can 62 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 2: change prices on a you know, a pound of flour 63 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: or whatever minute to minute if you want. 64 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: Wow, and you could factor in so many different things 65 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: including price elasticity that you know, fank giving morning. Somebody 66 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,839 Speaker 1: getting some flour off the shelf means they really made 67 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: a mistake and some flower bad and you can charge 68 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: more for it. Yeah, that's a great example. 69 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: Well, businesses have always adjusted prices to find the highest 70 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: amounts of customer will fork over like in a broad way. Now, 71 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: artificial intelligence, advanced algorithms, massive troves of user data are 72 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: allowing companies to be more exacting than ever quote. The 73 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: problem isn't that companies across multiple industries are using AI 74 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 2: for dynamic pricing or even surging surging pricing. The problem 75 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: is more around transparency and trust. According to this consumer advocate, 76 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 2: Now we all have benefited from some variable pricing, like 77 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 2: discounts when you buy in bulk at Costco allows you 78 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: to compare Amazon prices to other retailers online, save money 79 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 2: on a plane, tickets and vacations if you book off season, 80 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: that sort of thing. But they say the problem arises 81 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: when data collection and algorithms are used without customers knowledge. 82 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,799 Speaker 1: Ah, I feel like there needs to be a different 83 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: category for some of these things. 84 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: Different levels of objectionable. Yeah yeah, wait, here's a for example, 85 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: the Justice Department just settled the case against real estate 86 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: tech firm real Page, which I've never heard of, but 87 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: which allegedly used completely sensitive information that's a quote to 88 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 2: jack up rents for tenants. So they would dive into 89 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: all the data they could get and figure out how 90 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 2: much money you got, But why are and whether they 91 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: can jack up your rent three hundred dollars instead of 92 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 2: two hundred for the guy next door? 93 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: But how is this much unless they obtained the information illegally? 94 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: How is this much different than you buy a car 95 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: and the guy sizes you up when you walk on 96 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: the lot, He looks at what you drove, he looks 97 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: at the way you're dressed. Maybe he makes some small 98 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: talk and figures out what you do for a living, 99 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: and you know, strikes a bargain based on that. What's 100 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: the difference? And that's what car dealers always do, by 101 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: the way, and the most. 102 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 2: Brilliant descriptions of Freedman was terrific at this Milton Freedman, 103 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 2: the most brilliant descriptions about the free market emphasize the 104 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 2: fact that it's an exchange of information. You can instantaneously 105 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: know how much willing people are willing to pay for something, 106 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 2: how much they're willing to sell something for, and that 107 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: information moves at lightning speed through the market. It's all 108 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 2: about information. It's tough to fault somebody for. 109 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: And again, the. 110 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: Surveillance state pervasiveness of this is a little creepy, and 111 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: the secrecy is creepy. But if I walk into a 112 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 2: store and my neighbor, poor Jim, who we were joking 113 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 2: about earlier, walk into a store and they scan me 114 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: and say, this dude's here for stakes. 115 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: He's gonna pay whatever the stakes cost. 116 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: Poor Jim over there may not buy a steak at 117 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 2: all if it's too high. So we're gonna stick Joe 118 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: and let Jim skate a little easier. 119 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,559 Speaker 1: I don't know how you could complain about that, really, 120 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: people do jack. 121 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: Furious New Yorkers, for instance, have blasted the slot timeballs 122 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 2: that's a quote of Uber and Lyft for hiking prices 123 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: when subway lines are shut down during brainstorms, reportedly charging 124 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: eighty dollars for a ten minute ride to work. 125 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: That's a little different. How so, oh I guess it's not. 126 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: I guess it's not. Well, I guess really, you know, 127 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: the more I think about it, no, it's not. It's 128 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: no different than the charging more because the football game 129 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: just got out. 130 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well here's well right, Yeah, here's a head 131 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: scratcher than a wtffor. People have been reporting being charged 132 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: higher Uber fares when using a personal credit card instead 133 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: of a corporate one. I don't know why that would be. 134 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: I would seems like the office. Yeah, I would expect scratcher. 135 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: Here's the wtfor advocacy group. Consumer watchdogs suggested and report 136 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: a report that Uber might charge users more if they 137 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: have low phone batteries. The idea seeming to be the 138 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: customers are more likely to pay high prices when they're desperate. 139 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: Oh, the company denies this. I feel like this is 140 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:11,119 Speaker 1: being pitched to dumb people that don't understand the free 141 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: market in terms of being you know, this is something 142 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: you should be angry about. What this is pretty much 143 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: every interaction I've ever had when you're trying to buy something. Now, 144 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: you know, it'd be new that prices change on the 145 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: store shelves on a minute by minute basis, but for 146 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: bigger items, the items that cost more that put more 147 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: of a dent in your in your net worth. It's 148 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: always been that way. I mean, that's the whole selling 149 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: a car, they size you up. Or if I'm selling 150 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: a car, I get a sense from the guy, you 151 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: know what he can afford, how desperate he is, and 152 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: you know how desperate am I to make the sale? 153 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: Or am I willing to wait and see who else 154 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: I can get. I mean, all those interactions are going 155 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: on all the time, right. 156 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 2: I think people are a little offended by the information 157 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: imbalance because you know, you work that out through negotiation. 158 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: I'm not going to haggle with the cashier over the 159 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 2: price of my grapes and my you know whatever, paper towel. 160 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: They have much more information than I do. And if 161 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 2: they're charging the guy next to me, literally, the guy 162 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 2: next to me five dollars less for a steak than they. 163 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: Are me, it pisses people off. Yeah. I don't know 164 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: if it should, but it does. 165 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 2: Cash registers at convenience stores in Las Vegas Casinos had 166 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: been raising the price of bottled waters, flavored drinks, sunscreen, 167 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: and candy, et cetera on a daily and even hourly basis. 168 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: Sometimes leaving the cashiers just as surprised as the. 169 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: Customers at the price. So we were at Caesar's Palace 170 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: and we got there kind of late, and we were eating, 171 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: and this is like ten o'clock at night, and we 172 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: were all just so thirsty. For some reason. I said, 173 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: I'll get three bottled waters. She said, that's thirty three dollars. 174 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: I said, thirty three dollars for three bottled waters. She said, yeah, 175 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: they're nine to fifty piece. I said, we'll drink, we'll 176 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: find a fountain somewhere, we'll pass. And I wonder if 177 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: that was some sort of dynamic pricing. Are drinking and 178 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: been smoking cigarettes all day long, it's late at night, 179 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: they're thirsty, they don't pay anything. That had to be 180 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: dynamic pricing. There's no way at ten o'clock in the 181 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: morning they're charging ten bucks for a bottled water. 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That's Omaha Steaks dot com. 209 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 2: The promo code is armstrong, like I've. 210 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: Done this before. It's probably I don't know what I 211 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: think of this, but I've done it before, like dealing 212 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: with a car individual ort a car lot. Hey, how 213 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: you doing? You know, Okay, it's been a rough year, 214 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: but I need a car. You know, I'm not gonna 215 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: come up happy and do it well. You know, my 216 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: kid needs a liver and all these different things. 217 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: Wow wow, oh so more than they've got dozens of attractions, 218 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: children's museums, zoos aquariums. They use the software provider digit 219 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: x to power dynamic pricing based on everything from weather 220 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 2: to capacity constraints, and even Google Analytics search patterns. During 221 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: the week of June eight, for instance, the Seattle Aquarium 222 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: offered out of state adult admission prices as low as 223 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: thirty seven to ninety five for dates later in the month, 224 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 2: and as much as forty six ninety five for walking 225 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 2: tickets that week. 226 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: See that just sounds like flat out free market capitalism. 227 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: I got no problem with yeah, as opposed to if 228 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: the airlines somehow are getting my information, because I don't 229 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: want any of my information out there. But you know, 230 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: like the agreements K Katie was reading last hour, Sometimes 231 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: you sign up for Netflix or whatever you're signed up for, 232 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: and they get to snatch all your information. You got 233 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: no choice. But if the airlines you know, are getting information, 234 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: I don't want them to have and charging me based 235 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: on they know how much money I make, how much 236 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: I spend, I pay off my credit card every month, 237 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: blah blah blah whatever these I don't like that. 238 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 2: I don't want them to have that information to start with. Well, yeah, 239 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 2: but you see you clicked on. 240 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, you know, I don't know. We got 241 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: to work that out somehow. 242 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 2: Because I know the airlines for the app users say, 243 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 2: for instance, hey, Joe's not real price sensitive, so let's 244 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 2: show him a Let's go ahead and show him that 245 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: higher price. 246 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: See if he clicks. 247 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 2: If not, maybe maybe we loadered a little bit when 248 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 2: he comes back. And so I've heard you should not 249 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: sign in, you should clear your cookies. But I have 250 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: so many subscriptions, so many things. Yeah, I don't want 251 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 2: to clear my cookies. Too much of a pain in 252 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: the butt. 253 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: Definitely, any thoughts on this text line four two nine 254 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: five KFTC and one of the most consequential regular season 255 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 1: NFL games in a decade tonight I can tell you 256 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: about that and other things on the way. 257 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 4: By rec We don't know how this raccoon got there. 258 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 4: It was quite a large raccoon driving there as this 259 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 4: thing was grawling, kissing, scratching when it gets really coolse 260 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 4: not uncommon to get these calls for raccoons. They did 261 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 4: all the right things. They got medical care for the 262 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 4: person that got bit. He was taken to the hospital, 263 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 4: and I felt like I owed that to the person 264 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 4: that got bit, because his entire process for his treatment 265 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 4: relies basically solely on we get the salem or not. 266 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: That was a nice restaurant where a raccoon fell through 267 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: the ceiling and then bit a guest. 268 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: So beautiful Lake Geneva, Wisconsin. Yeah, really nice looking restaurant too. 269 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 2: You don't expect to be attacked by wild beasts at 270 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: that sort of establishment. 271 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: How is dinner not dressed for it? For one thing? Well, 272 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: the gnocchi was a little soft and raccoon fell out 273 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: the ceiling and bit me in the neck. Good wine 274 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: list though, although somebody tried to grab the raccoon, I guess, 275 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: and that's when they got bit. Don't try to grab 276 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: a raccoon, jeez. Louise so raising money for Scouts this 277 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: week so more kids can join up the Scouts if 278 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: the family doesn't have the money to do it. And 279 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: I love doing that. And we'll get to a total 280 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: a little bit later now, hoping it had one hundred 281 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars by the time we get off 282 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: the air today. Can we do it? It's not gonna 283 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: be easy. It's a tough one. May may have my 284 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: eyes might be bigger than my stomach or whatever. The 285 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: right saying would be had some good donations, give the 286 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: beavers a chance in for fifty dollars, right, Planet of 287 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: the Beavers, We've had our chance. We blew it. Fifty 288 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: dollars from the ghost of Jack's rooster. That's right. I 289 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: shot a rooster because it bit my son. Oh oh, 290 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: blasted that things to smithereens because I jumped on my 291 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: son's back. And this is my favorite one hundred and 292 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: fifty bucks from it insists upon itself is one of 293 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: my favorite land lines from Family Guy. So the huge 294 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: in imitation of a pretentious reviewer. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. This 295 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: week's NFL slate is unlike any other and almost a 296 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: decade for the first time since Barack Obama was president. 297 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: We ain't gotten nobody who's locked up the division yet, 298 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: which is kind of interesting. Part of it is because 299 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: last the participants in last year's Super Bowl, one of 300 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: them's out and the other one could be, which is 301 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: I don't remember the last time that happened. Dynasties are 302 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: good for sports, they just are. It brings in a 303 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: lot more people, and then that brings in people to 304 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: hate on the dynasty or whatever. But it looks like 305 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: the Chiefs dynasty might be over and saying he got 306 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: a bunch of new teams. Huge game. 307 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: You notice Star Wars didn't have Darth Vader on screen 308 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 2: for ten minutes then he was gone. 309 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: You need a villain, you need a hero, you need 310 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: a villain. Sure, rams Seahawks tonight, listen to what is 311 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: at stake with this game all You wouldn't even think 312 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: that this could possibly happen. There's only three weeks left 313 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: in the season. It's not your older siblings Thursday Night Games, 314 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: says NBC News. What used to be a dumping ground 315 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: for the league's less than elite matchups is now one 316 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: of the most important games in several years. Rams Seahawks 317 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: playing for the second time. The winner will not only 318 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: be first place in the division, but first place in 319 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: the NFC full stop, so you could have home field 320 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: advantage all the way through to go into the Super Bowl. 321 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: The loser will be in fifth place at best and 322 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: enter a jumbled mess of whether or not they make 323 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Wow. So that's tonight's game, Rams Hawks. So 324 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: that's kind of fun. Wow, it's going to have me. 325 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, my beloved forty nine ers are watching all of 326 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,479 Speaker 2: this with great interest as they are already in that jumble, 327 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: but could win their way into the top and get 328 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: that buy all the way through the playoffs. 329 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: It's that close all across the NFL. It's fun. Do 330 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: they have Saturday games? 331 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 4: This? 332 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 1: Are we to the point where you start having Saturday 333 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: and Sunday games? 334 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 335 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: I think this Saturday. Oh, I love that. That's the 336 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: best time of the NFL. 337 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: L to games too. I think Bears Packers is that right? Yeah, 338 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 2: that's your localists. 339 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: Bears Packers is one of the other super big ones, 340 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: and Buccaneers Panthers. So those are your three super important 341 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: games for the whole playoff picture. So let's get a 342 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: total lone scouting gladys, can you roll the drums for 343 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: US one hundred and sixteen thirty four dollars? So there 344 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: you go. We started with an original goal to fifty 345 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: early in the week, moved it to one hundred. Blue 346 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: pass that we're at one sixteen. Would love to get 347 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: to one fifty. A little later in the show, Joe's 348 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: going to get as trombone. I will get out the 349 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: footbal and we'll try to raise some with our fiddle 350 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: trombone duet that people love so much. 351 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: What is a high school club in northern California have 352 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: to do with the murder of Jews? 353 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: We'll explain Armstrong and Geddy. Hold home, how y'all doing. 354 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: Ever since we had the conversation about cash for presents, 355 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: all the pressure's off for me. I'm going cash for 356 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: presents this year. I can't wait to tell my kids. 357 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: I think they're going to be thrilled at their current age. Wow, okay, 358 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: glad to be of help. Yeah, I think they're gonna 359 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: love it. 360 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 2: I suggested a stack of twenties in a band, like 361 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: it's a bank robbery movie or you know you're a 362 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: drug dealer, but you know, however you choose to present 363 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: it is up to you, certainly. Yeah, So Katie brought 364 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 2: to us a brief version of a story from a 365 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: high school not far from the radio ranch, in fact, 366 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: when I used to drive past over and over and 367 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 2: over again. Why don't you go ahead and hit us 368 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 2: with the basics, Katie, and then I'll fill you in 369 00:18:58,640 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: on what's happening now. 370 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: Well. 371 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 3: A student led conservative club at twelve Bridges High School 372 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: in Lincoln, California is facing some controversy, with some students 373 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 3: accusing it of spreading hate and others defending it as. 374 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: A platform for civil dialogue. 375 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 3: They just had a meeting this week where there were 376 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 3: sixty speakers addressing the issue. Some associates said that the club, 377 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 3: which is associated with Turning Point USA, foster's division and 378 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 3: hate among students, while others emphasize the importance of civil 379 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 3: dialogue and healthy disagreement. One member of the club said, 380 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 3: since our first meeting, my friends and I have been 381 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 3: verbally harassed, both in person and online, and it's extremely discouraging, 382 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 3: especially since we have felt unsafe all with the threats 383 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 3: that have also been made towards us. 384 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 2: So you've got a student who created a petition that 385 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: the club should be removed from campus, said it has 386 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: over three hundred signatures. Free speech is allowed to everybody, 387 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 2: says this student, but that does not cover hate speech. 388 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: We respect everybody where, you respect the officers, but we 389 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 2: wish that we had respect for our family and for 390 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 2: our identities. Okay, this is a beautiful example of a 391 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 2: couple of things. Number One, the Heckler's veto. In effect, 392 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: that group fosters a division in the school. Okay, so 393 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 2: the division is they have a right to be there, 394 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 2: but you don't like it. That's a you problem, that's 395 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: not a them problem. Little snowflakes. And I'm not going 396 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 2: to use anybody's names in this because at the oldest 397 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 2: they're probably eighteen, and certainly i'd much much rather discuss 398 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 2: principles with people. I don't need to bring any inconvenience 399 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 2: or harassment down on any actually young human beings. This 400 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 2: is an example of people on the left accepting the 401 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: worst narratives they've heard about a perfectly legitimate group than 402 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 2: claiming without evidence that they are horrible people that they 403 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: are engaged in, for instance, hate speech. Do not see 404 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 2: the evidence that any of these kids on campus engaged 405 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: in any hate speech or indeed that any reasonable person 406 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 2: would think turning point USA does. The problem is on 407 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 2: the left, you label everything you don't like as hate speech. 408 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: Right, their metric for what's hate speech is different for 409 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: stuff on the right than it is for on the left. Obs. Yeah, obviously. Yeah. 410 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 2: It's like if you want to take something over, you 411 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 2: call it racist until you are in charge of it, 412 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 2: because everybody backs down. 413 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: Well, we've seen the examples over the last couple of years. 414 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: You can say from the river to the sea all 415 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: day long, and nobody calls that hate speech. 416 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 2: Right right, which it clearly is. And by the way, 417 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 2: I'm going to tie this to the murder of Jews 418 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: in just a minute. But the mayor of Beautiful Lincoln, California, 419 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 2: was the inaugural speaker at the club's first meeting. She 420 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 2: became a focal point of the discussion after an edited 421 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 2: video of hers speaking to the students circulated online carefully 422 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 2: carefully edited, and I have her. She wrote a piece 423 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 2: for the local newspaper explaining herself. 424 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: And how it was. 425 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: I've heard criticism suggesting that public schools are not appropriate 426 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: places to discuss certain topics, which is hilarious. In California, 427 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 2: where they're required to incorporate radical gender theory into like 428 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: every class, and critical race theory and the rest of it. 429 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 2: But she points out this was a voluntary student led 430 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 2: club that had followed absolutely every single rule of the 431 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 2: school district in California's equal access laws and the rest 432 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 2: of it. The school allows non academic clubs, LGBTQ clubs 433 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 2: for black students, Hispanic students, whatever, but conservative students is 434 00:22:55,800 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: absolutely not acceptable according to the loud little self righteous flakes. 435 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 2: And she talks about her presentation, these students were largely respectful. 436 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 2: My message focused on faith, understanding what you believe in, 437 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 2: why you believe it, having the courage to stand by 438 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 2: your convictions, and recognizing the differences in belief or opinion 439 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 2: do not equate to hatred. 440 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: Well, you gotta shut that down. Surely. 441 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 2: During the Q and A portion, protesting students were given 442 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 2: the first opportunity to ask questions and in fact dominated 443 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 2: the discussion. Ugh, that is so typical. They went there 444 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 2: to dominate the meeting and try to shut it down. 445 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 2: Many questions centered on statements attributed to Charlie Kirk or 446 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 2: turning Point USA. I repeatedly clarified that I was not 447 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 2: giving my own personal views to those questions, but rather 448 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 2: responding to questions about what mister Kirk had publicly stated, 449 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 2: while encouraging students to seek full context and make up 450 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 2: their minds. After the meeting, I learned that a student 451 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 2: had recorded me without authorization and later told classmates he 452 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: intended to use the video quote to take me down. 453 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 2: It was quickly distributed to media outlets, including the Sacramento 454 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 2: b which is a shameless former newspaper. It was heavily 455 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 2: edited and stripped of context, creating the false impressions that 456 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 2: I said things I did not saying, grossly misrepresenting both 457 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: my intent and character. You know, I I gotta tip 458 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 2: my cap to California schools. You are teaching the kids, well, 459 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 2: they have really learned the art of crushing free speech, 460 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 2: of demonizing anybody who disagrees with them and trying to 461 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 2: humiliate them publicly. 462 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: They learned. I understand how young people come to this 463 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: idea that this might be a good thing. One of 464 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: my intellectual heroes, Christopher Hitchins, used to tell the story 465 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: about how when he was at Oxford and he was 466 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: a student, he and some other like minded students shut 467 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: down a conservative speaker they didn't like. They somehow got 468 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: into the electronics and turn off the microphone or something 469 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: like that, and they just thought that was fantastic. But 470 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: when he got older, he realized that's the exact opposite 471 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: of what we should do and decried that the rest 472 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: of his life. If you beat their idea with your ideas, 473 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: the Heckler's veto is the worst thing that we can have. 474 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: We got to have free speech, et cetera, et cetera. 475 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: So I can understand how kids could come to that idea. 476 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: The fact that adults go along with it is amazing. 477 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: Right right, And she gives several more examples of just 478 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: brutal editing and context clearing. 479 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: So she appears to call M. L. 480 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 2: King Junior a Marxist and appears to make statements about 481 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 2: a black pilot that she did not say. It's absolutely 482 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 2: outrageous and ugly and vicious, and it's so out of 483 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 2: the same catalog of demonizing Jews and making up, you know, 484 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 2: various blood libels and ridiculous stories and preaching hatred toward 485 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 2: them without having a good conversation, without asking, hey, what's 486 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 2: this is it true? 487 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,239 Speaker 1: What's your point of view? On this. 488 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 2: It's the viciousness of the mob, the angry mob going 489 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 2: after conservative students. It's the opposite of education. It's the 490 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 2: opposite of the exchange of ideas. It's a horror that 491 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: any school would permit it to happen like this. You 492 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 2: need to step in right now, twelve Bridges High School 493 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 2: in Lincoln, California, and teach the kids what the free 494 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 2: exchange of ideas is about. That's what you're there for. 495 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: And be very, very very careful what you call hate speech. 496 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 2: By the way, the kids at this club have been harassed, 497 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 2: threatened online docks through fake accounts, and targeted simply for 498 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 2: participating in lawful student club. Students have the right to protest, 499 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 2: they do not have the right to intimidate or harass others. 500 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 2: Lincoln School District, how hard are you working to figure 501 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: out who is docsing and harassing kids? That's Bruce, I'm 502 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: one hundred percent certain you have an anti online bullying protocol. 503 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 2: Of course, do you enforce it now? Get started now? 504 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 1: Well, imagine if somebody was harassing a trans kid on 505 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: that me a completely different story. 506 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 2: Tell you what the left is a mob of angry monsters? 507 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: Oh you don't think that's true. 508 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 2: I would take a look at the angry monsters amongst 509 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 2: you and tell them, hey, that's not cool. It's not 510 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 2: in my power to stop leftists from being angry mobsters, 511 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 2: you know, the angry members of a mob. 512 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: But it is in yours. Maybe you get started again. 513 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: Today would be a good time. So I got a 514 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: number of things out there that have been shipped, and 515 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: you know, I'm hoping they get to various places on time, 516 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: and so I get emails all the time your UPS 517 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: package has been delayed. It'd be so easy to click 518 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: on one of those because I actually have stuff, you know, 519 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: going through EPs vacsation. A lot of them are fake 520 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: though they're fishing emails. In this time of year, they 521 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 1: spike because the bad guys out there. Cybercrime spikes during 522 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 1: the holidays because they know you're running around. 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This the mayor 542 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 2: of Lincoln who spoke to the group. She talked to 543 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: Sacramento Bee reporter Jenna Pendleton, who is an Dalton. I 544 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: will name her and explain the context of several quotes 545 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: where she was not representing her own views. They asked her, 546 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 2: why would Charlie Kirk say this? And she said, well, 547 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 2: he might have meant blah blah blah. She clarified that 548 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: context to the Bee reporter. That clarification was omitted from 549 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 2: the final coverage and the Bee contributing to a misleading narrative. 550 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: I don't understand why people haven't figured this out. If 551 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: you overreach, it does you more harm than good. If 552 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: your enemies are as bad as you claim, you should 553 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: be able to do them in with their actual words. 554 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,719 Speaker 1: You don't need to like leave stuff out or take 555 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: it out of context or make stuff up. It was 556 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: like the BBC editing that documentary about Trump Ifa. Trump's 557 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: as bad as you say is and he's pretty crazy. 558 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: Just use his own stuff. You don't need to edit it. 559 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 2: In such a way that it's completely a lie, right right, 560 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 2: everybody overreaches or somewhere going sure is a deep, deep 561 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 2: blue town no matter how red your town is. Within 562 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 2: your town, it's your local schools. Yeah, no kidding, that's 563 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 2: worth thinking about. We got more on the way if 564 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 2: you got any comments on that text line FOURFTC. 565 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: And finally, in honor of the holiday season, McDonald's today 566 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: offered customers an egg McMuffin for two dollars. If you're 567 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: wondering what that has to do with the holidays, The 568 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: oil will last for eight nights, So it was, uh, 569 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: which sandwich did they get for two dollars. Michael McMuffin. Oh, McMuffin, 570 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: that's a pretty decent sandwich. I haven't had one of 571 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: those sausage cheese. I don't like those good I don't 572 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: think of it as particularly oily. No, I don't either. Well, 573 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: he's a a New York elitist who's gonna mock what we, 574 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: the regular people, like to eat. I don't approve raising 575 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: money for the Scouts, then I want to ask us 576 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: all about our grade for the Gladys's Chip Jar. Gladys's 577 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: Tip Jar was in for forty dollars to help out Scouts, 578 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: help more kids be able to join Scouts, to cover 579 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: the couple hundred dollars it costs to get started twenty 580 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: five dollars from cat Pervert. What was that? I don't 581 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: remember that story. We got a clipper on that, Katie. 582 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: Do you remember that one? Heg zets don't Hegzev's double 583 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: tap for one hundred bucks two hundred and fifty dollars 584 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: from Jack's Giraffe. Appreciate that? Oh you know what? We 585 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: never did pay off. 586 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 2: The discussion yesterday about why I've changed my mind a 587 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 2: bit on releasing the videotape okay, because the point was made. 588 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 2: I can't remember where I read it, but that it's 589 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 2: much much longer than I was picturing. It's not just 590 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 2: kerk blue. And then you see the smoke clearer than 591 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 2: guys on the wreckage than kerk blue. Again, it's I 592 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 2: don't know how long it is, but I could picture 593 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 2: it in including a fair amount of dialogue and I 594 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: don't know, maybe even information on the screen or whatever. 595 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: I know what all's on it. Do you have any 596 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: idea how some people saw it and said it was 597 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: the most horrific thing they've seen in public life, and 598 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: some people saw it and said it looks like all 599 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: the other videos. 600 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 2: To me, I don't believe them for a minute, which 601 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 2: I take nothing from that description, you know what I do. 602 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: I respect Tom Cotton, and. 603 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 2: He might be you know, edging his comments a little bit, 604 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 2: hedging his comments a little bit, but the Democrat was saying, 605 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 2: it's one of the most shocking things I've ever seen 606 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 2: in my life. There are a lot of things in 607 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 2: warfare that are horrifying, especially if you're not used to them. 608 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: That just didn't mean anything to me. Back to the 609 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: donating to Scouting got one hundred dollars from a decent human. 610 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: That's pretty good. I like that. That's a good moniker 611 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: for yourself. You're just a decent human giving money to 612 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: a good outfit or a couple left. So let's get 613 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: a total glass roll your little drum roll. There you go. 614 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: She wears the cool little rock and roll gloves like 615 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: you're a rock and roll drummer, the fingerless gloves like 616 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: drummers have, and then she twirls her sticks with both hands, 617 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: which is pretty cool. Very Tommy Lee like, here's our total, 618 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: one hundred twenty thousand dollars, two hundred and twenty two bucks. 619 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: It's fantastic. I shot my mouth off yesterday and said 620 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: I thought we could hit one hundred and fifty by 621 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: the end of the show. We got to do it 622 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: in the next hour and five minutes. It's gonna have 623 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: to be a big final hour. So it's really on 624 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: the whole. Yeah, you're planning to donate, you're running around, 625 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: you're busy all week, you're working, you got kids to 626 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: pick up this and that and shopping. You plan to 627 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: do it, We'll do it now. Go to Armstrong in 628 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: geeddy dot com. It just takes a couple of minutes. 629 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: It's really easy. Armstrong in getty dot com. 630 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 2: And many many people will be listening in the future 631 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 2: via podcast. You need to go to Armstrong and Giddy 632 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 2: dot com click on donate now whenever you are listening. 633 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. So I was just wondering. I 634 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: did this at the Christmas party yesterday. I went around 635 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: and ask everybody what they're raide was for the year. 636 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: Was just asking business wise? I don't I think I 637 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: just think for us. How about just life wise? What's 638 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: your grade for the year for your life? Michael? Your 639 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 1: life this year? How was it compared to other years? 640 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: You got to compare to other years? You can't use 641 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: like some starving kid in Africa or obviously you have 642 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: an A. God, That's what I was gonna go with. 643 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: I'd say overall a B plus, A B plus. Yeah, 644 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: that's good, Katie. I'm gonna go a minus. Okay, you 645 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: got pregnant this year. I did. 646 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 3: Not easy though not easy, A lot of good, lot 647 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 3: of rough, So we'll. 648 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 1: Go a minus. Okay, cool, Hanson, what do you give 649 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 1: your grade for the year for your life? 650 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 4: A C? 651 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: Wow, Hanson coming into C. But that's not inflated grades C. 652 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: That's that's like just average year old school C. Yeah. 653 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: I guess see, I don't know if there's a story 654 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: behind that or what I remember. Uh well, i'll give 655 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: my grade. I would be probably a B plus a 656 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: minus B plus in there. I don't know why I don't. 657 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what this is about my personality. I 658 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: have a I. I regularly say negative things and have 659 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 1: a negative outlook, but like for my own life, I 660 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: always think things are fine and gonna be okay. I 661 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 1: don't know why that is. And uh, other than the year, 662 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: my wife don't mean which I think I gave that 663 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: year a D or and F. I'm usually at a 664 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: B plus or a minus rough one. 665 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 2: Well, if that doesn't get you a D for your year, 666 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 2: exactly exacting in the grave, and then you can't say 667 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 2: what your grade is. Uh yeah, I've got you know, 668 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 2: it's funny. I've got to review the year in my head. 669 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 2: I gotta go a minus. It's been lovely in a 670 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 2: lot of ways. Some challenges and sadness and you know, 671 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 2: a little setback here and there, but overall, yeah, it's 672 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 2: it's it's been. 673 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: A pretty good year personally. Yeah, but your your personality 674 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: would you ever go much lower than an A A minus? 675 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: Probably probably not. Well, it depends what happens. I suppose, 676 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: all right, you know the wife dumping you thing like 677 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: I mentioned. That's that's a tough one. Well, yeah, I mean, well, 678 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: there are a number of things that could happen. If 679 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,760 Speaker 1: I lost my job and a tornado took my house, 680 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: I suppose that'd be a lower grade. 681 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 2: Well, I don't understand your question. Would I ever go 682 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 2: below a B minus? Yes? 683 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 1: If I got side gotten. 684 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 2: Used to lost the use of my legs, yes I would. 685 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: What kind of question is that outside of an extraordinary currence? 686 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: Because you you said, Hanson c was just kind of 687 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: like your old fashioned graving, kind of an average year. 688 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: Well you're so, is your average year in A. 689 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 2: Yes, definitely in your your solid B. If I was 690 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 2: to average out a bunch of years, yeah, something like that. 691 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 1: I feel like my average year is like a B 692 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: plus or A minus. I don't know what that means. Yea, 693 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: Hanson's a tough grader, he is you are a tough grater, Hanson. 694 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, maybe he needs to get on the air 695 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 2: and spill his guts and maybe, you know, maybe it's 696 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 2: your abuse that kept it from. 697 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: Being a B. I don't know the guy caused it 698 00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: to be a C. 699 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 2: I'm just asking the here here. I learned this from Tucker. 700 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 2: I'm just asking questions. I'm not tacitly accusing people of things. 701 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 2: Please donate at Armstrong in getty dot com. 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