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Speaker 1: Of Course Love Supreme is a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: This classic episode was produced by the team at Pandora.

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Speaker 1: What's up, y'all? This is Quess Love and this is

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Speaker 1: another q lest classic. This episode, we talk to our

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Speaker 1: pal p J. Morton, member of Broom five Monster in

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Speaker 1: his own right Grammy winner, and he talks about his

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Speaker 1: journey uh for being a preacher's kid in New Orleans

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Speaker 1: to uh world domination. You know it should be quite dope.

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Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy it all right starting, Oh God,

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Speaker 1: here we go. Su Primo roll call, Surema, su Premo

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Speaker 1: role called sub primam roll call, Soma roll call, tenants

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Speaker 1: pool Yeah, Rocket Simmons shoes signs from the heaven above. Ye,

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Speaker 1: some water. Primo road call. My name is Fonte. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm kicking my game. Yeah where everybody, Yeah knows my name.

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Speaker 1: Prima road call, some Prima Prima road here whole Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you know I'm no sucker. Yeah yeah. Oh that

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Speaker 1: hurt like a motherfucker. Some Primo road Sorry you Prema

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Speaker 1: road call. My name is Sugar, Yeah, yes, please, yeah,

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Speaker 1: won't you come? Ye put it down on me. Cama

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Speaker 1: road call. Some Prima road call. It's like yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I'm all of that yeah with my boy PJ. Yeah

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Speaker 1: who that who that din me tell you you have

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Speaker 1: to do this? My name is p J. I could

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Speaker 1: just scream yeah, I finally made it quest love to

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Speaker 1: bring something roll roll. So wait, so let me get

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Speaker 1: it correct. You knew what you had to do on

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Speaker 1: this theme. Yeah, so it's it's taking us one hundred

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Speaker 1: plus episodes to get someone on the show that listens

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Speaker 1: to our show, I mean the first twenty and so

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Speaker 1: we can excuse him because you know, no, it's just

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Speaker 1: usually what what what listeners of our show don't know

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Speaker 1: is that no one is warned, you know, and they

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Speaker 1: don't listen. And PJ is actually like the first person

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Speaker 1: who actually listened. I take that we might have our

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Speaker 1: first music nerd. Actually the wait, we've done over a

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Speaker 1: hundred and this dude don't know what ordered roll calls in. Okay, sorry,

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Speaker 1: seems it seems like we was just going around in

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Speaker 1: the circle. Yeah, because that's how we always deal with Well,

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Speaker 1: you shouldn't have sent me in the seat, you should

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Speaker 1: have sent me where you were sitting. You got here

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Speaker 1: early ones like oh I'm the boss, I'm boss, Steve

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Speaker 1: Clear you're gonna bos'n that. Wait, you know what not

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Speaker 1: Sugar Network? Right? One year? Got a year? Right? One year?

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Speaker 1: Like a month ago? Yeah? Month? Yeah? Yeah, congratulations Steve,

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Speaker 1: thank you. So what what developments have occurred in the

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Speaker 1: Sugar Network? You know, the same as usual. We just

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Speaker 1: continue to grow, thanks to thanks. I saw some weird

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Speaker 1: last night. Yeah in grep Times. What was that? As

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Speaker 1: an electric circus? Was so dope? Yeah, one of the

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Speaker 1: one of the Sugar celebrities, Soldier, made that for network

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Speaker 1: to celebrate the first year. It's very cool graphics. It

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Speaker 1: was dope. It was it was everybody else on the

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Speaker 1: Bill that wasn't there either. You guys got to participate more.

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Speaker 1: Those are like the major select that hit him alive,

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Speaker 1: don't I'm I'm on social media completely now, So how's

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Speaker 1: that going? How's your social media fast? Is it? Because

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Speaker 1: on the group chat I made a reference to a

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Speaker 1: few things that you didn't know about, And you know what,

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Speaker 1: I have no no fear of missing out. I don't care, really,

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Speaker 1: I don't care. Hopefully really hopening up to the world

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Speaker 1: the suit, you know, actually get stuff done on time.

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Speaker 1: Now you know that I can actually sit through a

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Speaker 1: television show and know what's happening. I wonder, but you

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Speaker 1: don't get tempted or all to look at trending topics

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Speaker 1: or no, I don't give a ship. That's why I quit.

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Speaker 1: That's why I quit in the first place, because I

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Speaker 1: looked at all this and I was like, I don't care. Wait,

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Speaker 1: back in the December, you told you just dropping your Facebook.

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Speaker 1: and then you know, have shocking and go out and

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Speaker 1: steps like, actually, the way you're looking right now, that's

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Speaker 1: why I'm sitting because like, yeah, it was like, okay,

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Speaker 1: Is it like are you sure click? Are you really

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Speaker 1: You can download you you can download everything, really because

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Speaker 1: it saves everything. It saves everything. It's the Internet. Nothing

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Speaker 1: Facebook and Instagram. You can download all that ship Okay,

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Speaker 1: I would like to revisit my old m hmm. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I need to do that, mm hmm, just in case. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you want job number twenty five. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: That's That's what I mean. Sort of make sure I'm straight.

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Speaker 1: I caught out there, not caught out there. Um wait,

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Speaker 1: a story. I don't worry, sir, Like you should know

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Speaker 1: but I was like, Yo, we're taking a show tonight.

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Speaker 1: what did I do? Wait? Did I do something? No?

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Speaker 1: You were just on television and my mama wasn't was watching. Okay,

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Speaker 1: my phone rings okay, junior, what's this let's see on

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Speaker 1: television with quest Love and his daughter? Who is his daughter? What? Mom?

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Speaker 1: He ain't got no daughter. He he's he's on here

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Speaker 1: But you know, we don't know. I'm looking. I'm a

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Speaker 1: quote big brother three hundred plus. My mom thought your

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Speaker 1: When did she? When did you get married? Three times ago?

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Speaker 1: We shouted six seven years ago, right ago, seven thousand fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Apparently I haven't laughed that hard and so long like me,

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Speaker 1: haven't adjusted to that. Yeah, that's a prep and you

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Speaker 1: that's a part of your fit. Apparently you know Cindy

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Speaker 1: no no. Her mom says, uh, she always calls it

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Speaker 1: for the other one. Yeah, black black, I forgot it's

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Speaker 1: Bill's match it a minute ago because he was angry. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: sorry about that anyway. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another

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Speaker 1: episode of Quest Love Supreme. We are we are here.

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Speaker 1: We gather it here today. We're here with no Orlans

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Speaker 1: Nolan Zone. Can I say no Orlans Sure you can't?

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Speaker 1: Okay by Nolan Zone, Grammy Award winning, winning, winning, we

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Speaker 1: I say, I'm the only Marone in my road. So

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Speaker 1: my dad have you. Yeah. I was like to say,

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Speaker 1: has anyone ever said that to you? Oh? My dad

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Speaker 1: Oh no, it didn't come from No. Ladies and gentleman,

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Speaker 1: please welcome from the show. And apparently, uh lover of

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Speaker 1: the show, our first one, p J Borton. I talked

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Speaker 1: his history, and he was from the Stevie School and

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Speaker 1: Dirty got on stage and wu tanks for the children,

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Speaker 1: amount of samples and writers, you know, like again like

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Speaker 1: if if uh, I remember last year when Kanye was

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Speaker 1: Well for uh, I'm about to say, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to insult him by saying, Mr Kylie Jenner, Uh, Travis Scott,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. This is the only way I could have said.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't say it's that Rocky. I don't know. Wait,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys been knowing, but TMZ

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Speaker 1: then they have a camera, like hey, Travis Scott, publicism

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Speaker 1: was in Franklin Bridge, so it was probably before then.

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00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: I don't remember how we met. Maybe he was remember no, no, no,

421
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: it was a TV show on ABC that did a

422
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: national Battle of the band. It was like bands. Oh wow,

423
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: okay about that. I don't know Blackstone just kind of

424
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: as far as I remember, Like, I don't remember meeting him.

425
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: I didn't met all those Philly guys that want was

426
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: the tie and those guys all the band show. No,

427
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: it's a small world. Yeah, so you you were born

428
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: in New Orleans, born and raised? Okay, we're part I was,

429
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: uh grew up in the East. I'm confused because I

430
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: lived there. Now I moved back, but I grew up

431
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: in the East. My whole life New Orleans eas So

432
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: what are the can you describe for most? For me? So?

433
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: So East, I guess in the eighties was considered like

434
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: the new town, like New New Orleans and um so

435
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: like I had where I grew up doesn't didn't really

436
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: look like up. It doesn't look like New Orleans in

437
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: that way. I had a palm tree in the front

438
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: of mine. It was like they made it like the

439
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: New suburbs, right, So that's where I grew up. There's

440
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 1: also a rough part of the East, which is why

441
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: the Katrina took them forever. It took like eight years

442
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: for them to even start to work on New Orleans

443
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: eas But um, I grew up in the East. Then

444
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: you have Uptown, which is where my dad's church was,

445
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: And then you have Downtown, which is kind of where

446
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: the super Dome is and Convention Center and all that stuff.

447
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: So away from when tourists come there, of course, we

448
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: come to the French Quarter. Yeah, that's downtown. So is

449
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: that the equivalent of you hanging out? Like? Not really,

450
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: that's I mean low key Bourbon Street is that? But

451
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: the French Quarters. What I love about New Orleans is

452
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: kind of like the Tories. The stuff overlaps with the

453
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: real stuff like that, where are you hanging? Um? I

454
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: mean I'll go down there. Are you holding a wall? Guy?

455
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: Are you like? But I'll go and play and listen

456
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: att on Frenchman Street. I'll listen to music on Frenchman Street.

457
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: I never go to Bourbon. Should you do Frenchman mayor?

458
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: Is that a bourbon? Because that's what I was told

459
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: to by New Orleans natives, like if you're gonna do

460
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: a street inversion, I mean I rarely do bourbon. Yeah,

461
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: I mean bourbon is a sitist. I do it when

462
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: people are visiting, you know what I'm saying, because it

463
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,239
Speaker 1: is something to see that that is on. I mean,

464
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: it could be a random Wednesday night, you know, and

465
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: it's full, it's packed, just like like it is during

466
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: Marty Grass something, you know. So as far as like

467
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: seeing bands and are there still an abundant especially in

468
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: the wake of Katrina? Uh, which okay, I guess we're

469
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: years thirteen years later. Um, are there still an abundance

470
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: of musicians and band members there? Because I know that

471
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: there was a mass exodus. Oh yeah, a lot of

472
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: people got out. But there's a there's a new generation

473
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: now too of musicians and it's a bunch of it's

474
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: it's still a bunch of musicians. Now, how are they

475
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: with tradition? Um, the young guys, I mean they still

476
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: have to play in the quarters, they still have to

477
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: come up there, so it's almost like they go through

478
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: that little school of all right, I gotta know how

479
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: to do a shuffle, or I gotta know how to

480
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: do a second line be you know, because you have

481
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: to come through there to get to you can't really

482
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: skip that step unless you play in church, you know.

483
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: And even still when you want to go from Chi,

484
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: I just was lucky enough to leave and go to

485
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: school and start to write and stuff. But if you

486
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: want to stay a musician in New Orleans, you kind

487
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: of gotta go through that scene and play on bourbon

488
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: and stuff. Because I don't know if any place in

489
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: the United States or even the world that hanks so

490
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: tight to a tradition, probably Second Broadway. It's probably the

491
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: only other culture I know that's so stuck or like

492
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: post tim pan Alley, you know, Gercewin era jazz that

493
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: that I would love to just pry their hands off

494
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: of and have them start a new But yeah, that's

495
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: what I'm about since I've been back home too, you know.

496
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: But how is is New Orleans a place where some

497
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: people feel as though we need to eve of Like

498
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: are there people that just start straight bounces as a musician,

499
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna start with or even now bounce is

500
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: like tradition. I mean the idea of Drake doing fifth

501
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: word webby type songs, yes, is old old school. So

502
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: you know, is there any space for trap culture in Yeah,

503
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: it's a brand new way. It's a brand new wave

504
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. Now. Um of artists that I'm seeing

505
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: that are totally I mean they respect that history and

506
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: know it. But I think what I've been preaching since

507
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: and I've been back home three years, and um, kind

508
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: of what started me off Buddy Bolden's house, who is

509
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: attributed as the originator of jazz music, right, like Louis

510
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: Armstrong credits King Oliver, Buddy Bolden. Yeah, see I thought

511
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: King Oliver's right, he's King Oliver credits bit Buddy Bolden. Right,

512
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: So they say Buddy is that he lost his mind

513
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: when he was like twenty six and and and and

514
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: lived his life in a hospital in a hospital for

515
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: the rest of his life. But we the house is

516
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: like ten steps from my dad's church, and after Katrina

517
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: the my family bought up all the real estate around there,

518
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: not knowing that they bought Buddy Bolden's house, his childhood home.

519
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: I didn't know who Buddy Bolden was until I moved

520
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: back home, and they were like, Yo, we're about to

521
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: do something with this house. And people were coming from

522
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: Europe and lining up and making pilgrimages to to this place.

523
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: And we didn't know what it was. And when I

524
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: got home, you know, um, but it made me start

525
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: to like think about that history. And I think that

526
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: New Orleans and the reason I left, the reason why

527
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: a lot of us leave, is because we focused so

528
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: much on jazz, jazz, jazz, like we started this, this

529
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: is what and and I think what needs to be

530
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: more focused on with New Orleans is innovation. Right. It

531
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: was Buddy saying, I know y'all playing Dixie, and this

532
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: is how I want to play my horn, and it's

533
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: gonna be different from everybody else. And that's what created that.

534
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: That's what created Bounce, was us not caring New Orleans

535
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: could just a bubble in that way, was like, I

536
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: don't it was on the radio, I don't care what

537
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: this is our what we're doing. But I think that

538
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: is what makes us special, not the actual thing, not jazz,

539
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: not bounced, but the not caring, right, and the gift

540
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,239
Speaker 1: of that and the innovation of that. So I think

541
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: a lot of the generation now and the and the

542
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: generation coming up they're thinking that way. But it's still

543
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: that same I don't care attitude. I mean, you still

544
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: have the I mean I would say that the not

545
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: necessarily the entire Marcella's family, but definitely is head, headstrong, purist. Yeah,

546
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,959
Speaker 1: but he's also not in New Orleans. It hasn't been

547
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: for a very long time. You know, uh, more New

548
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: York than anything. Yeah. Yeah, he been in New York

549
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: for a very long time. So I'm saying, as far

550
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: as the scene is going, that's that's cool, And that's

551
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: what happened, by the way, like that jazz went came

552
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: to New York and the jazz we know now is

553
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: that right? Our jazz turned into R and B and

554
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: like Fats you know, in rock and so like that.

555
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: That's the extension of us more than preaching jazz is

556
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: how we know it now, you know. So are there

557
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: funk bands that we're in the tradition of the meters? Like,

558
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: are there still people that I don't really? Not? Not really.

559
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: I mean you got like Galactic. I was gonna say

560
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: Galactic it take the jam band, yeah sort of thing.

561
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: So Galactic is now the the steady groove, that's the

562
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: standard funky jam band type thing. Yeah, if you're if

563
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: you're a musician in New Orleans. Um, and let's say,

564
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: how were you when you first started? I was like eight, Okay,

565
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: So what's the first thing that you're taught? Is it

566
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 1: a boogie woogie? Like, what's the what's the what's the

567
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: top five? Like stuff that has to be in your

568
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: DNA or for you get respect by. So to me,

569
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: it was like two different worlds, right. I didn't. I

570
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 1: didn't really get into that French court of world until

571
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: I was older. My dad was I was. It was

572
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: all church for me. That's where all my music came from.

573
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: I'm a preacher's kid. Your father must have a rather

574
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: large church, right, because your father is very known in

575
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: the community, correctly. Yeah. Pre Katrina, we had like twenty members,

576
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: So it was like a huge church. Brought up a

577
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: lot of said, you brought a lot of property. I want, yeah,

578
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: but but yeah, so my my dad was kind of

579
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: like the premier church you know in New Orleans pre Katrina,

580
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: and that brought through a lot. But my dad's from Windsor.

581
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: My dad's from Canada, right, so he and his father

582
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: was a huge pastor. The first pastor to have a

583
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: church in Detroit and to have a church in and Canada,

584
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: so that connection. My dad grew up with the Clark's

585
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: sisters in the Windings and all of them. So when

586
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: he when he came to New Orleans and started a church,

587
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: he brought musicians from there. My my heroes were like

588
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: this guy Joey Britain from Detroit and guys like that

589
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: that he brought down. So the flavor was totally different

590
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: in our church than outside of the honest so I

591
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: was I came up with. I didn't get the New

592
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: Orleans training early, and it's probably why I was so different.

593
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 1: You know. Ellis Marcelle's wanted me to saw me play

594
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: when I was like ten or twelve and wanted me

595
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: to go to NOCA, but I wanted to go to

596
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: this high school saying, oh you know what I'm saying

597
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: that was known for his margin band. So I was

598
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: a little different, which is kind of why I always

599
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 1: felt out of place kind of growing up. You know,

600
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: it was like I'm not really that New Orleans guy

601
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: in that way. How lenient as a PK. How lenient

602
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: were your family on music outside secular music? Yeah, it

603
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: was it was it was strict, strict, yeah, it was.

604
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: It was a balance because my dad was from Detroit, like,

605
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: I mean, he loved Anita, he loved certain things right,

606
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: and my dad was a singer and a real musician

607
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: in that way. So he always appreciated the Stevis and stuff,

608
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: you know. He tell me stuff. Yeah, my uncle played

609
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: on some early some old town things back then. I

610
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: used to play for cl Franklin right, so like, and

611
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: they tell me stories of Stevie coming in and doing

612
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 1: a show at the church, you know. So it was

613
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: always a line. I remember we couldn't listen to the

614
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: secondar stuff on Sundays, but but you know, it was

615
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: only gospel music on Sundays. But they were pretty I

616
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: mean I listened to Michael Jackson growing up and even strict. Yeah,

617
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: it wasn't crazy like that. I think his childhood was

618
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: so strict I was. Yeah, and what your people like

619
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: you said, he was from Canada, so where y'all people

620
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 1: always I don't know why. I always think the Canadian

621
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: black foles have like a lot of Island influence on

622
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: them and whatnot. But were they yeah, I think there

623
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: was some with my grandparents, well not my grandmother. She

624
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: was like from Missouri. So they both passed away. Before

625
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: they passed away, my dad his father when he was

626
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: twelve and his mother when he was nineteen, so way

627
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: before me. But I think my grandfather had some West Indiana, Missouri.

628
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: They went up. Yeah, he found her somewhere. They found

629
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: each other somewhere. Yeah. So he your father was initially

630
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: preaching up in the d and then yeah, so he

631
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: why why what was this decision to come down to?

632
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: He said, God told him to move to New Orleans.

633
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: That's that's the only reason I've heard. And he said

634
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: he went and did a revival in Cleveland, and when

635
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: when he knew it was time for him to move,

636
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: and somebody stole all of his clothes out of his

637
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: car and everything. And he said, after he got robbed,

638
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: he moved. That's that's when he finally moved. Yeah, my

639
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: dad's got it's a crazy story. Yeah, because Hap with

640
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: Trek and Michelle first moved to brought their sprawling Uh

641
00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: they would house it everything. Yeah, Tike came home and

642
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: packed all of the ship like me and to go

643
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: to pull the opposite each other. So every outfits reet

644
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: weears like worth like billion dollars, so you know, it

645
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: was like first day of school for like all of

646
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: his good clothes. He's he's packing his car, his Porsche

647
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: of ball things like he's packing off his stuff in

648
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: the car and like four, I guess four in the morning,

649
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 1: Like someone just came and took all of two weeks

650
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: skills out of his car, out of the car. A

651
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: lot of people ate off of him clothes, you know

652
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: that a lot of people smoke. It's almost like it's

653
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: almost like I think he wanted to stay an extra

654
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,439
Speaker 1: week before that, you know that coming to American scene

655
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: where like stop let them stress ten thous dollar e vs. Jeans.

656
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: I know it was you, uh but yeah, no, he

657
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: said God told him to go and he didn't know

658
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: anybody in New Orleans. He said his first job was

659
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 1: like he was like a gas attendant around the church

660
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,439
Speaker 1: and one of the guys invited him to the church.

661
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: What is the time span from that to ye maybe

662
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: six or something is when he got to New Orleans

663
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: something like that, and it was, um, I don't know,

664
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: it was up to twenty by the time before Katrina

665
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 1: so oh four. Were you a part of your father's

666
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: music outreach or were you part of the gospel. Yeah,

667
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 1: I was like the music director for a while until

668
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 1: I went to college and the choice. Um yeah, actually

669
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: that's what my friends were. My friends, my musician form

670
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: my drumma right now is still is the guy that

671
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: I used to play with. So for me and my church,

672
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: it was fun and the music and my friends was

673
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: all I needed. You know, I was a preacher's kids.

674
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: I was doing what I was doing. Whatever I was doing,

675
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,959
Speaker 1: I was have been fine, but that was my source. Really.

676
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 1: Like I said, I wasn't on this New Orleans scene.

677
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: So all my musician friends were in church. See that. Okay,

678
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: Now it makes sense because I didn't know this backstory. See,

679
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: whenever it's jam session time or when you sit in

680
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 1: with us, it's always well, you know, like we always

681
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: go there and do these right, get the gospel, go

682
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 1: straight church. That's why it's it's fun and authentic to

683
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: do that with for sure, because that's why I get

684
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: it when you when you say it. So any of course,

685
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 1: I think I don't know if there's any soul singer

686
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: alive that doesn't long to do a gospel record, But yeah,

687
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: is that in your future eventually? No, you know what

688
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: I started out as a songwriter, and so I've written

689
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: gospel songs for people that have done well. Like I

690
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,919
Speaker 1: wrote this big gospel song called let Go Let God,

691
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: this guy Dwayne was did and it was like seventy

692
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: two weeks in the top ten. So um, I want

693
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: to yeah, like a Stellar Awards, maybe a Dove. Um.

694
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: But if I do anything, it'll be like my songbook

695
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: and other artists singing. But I don't. I have no

696
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: desire to do a gospel record at all. No. I

697
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: feel like my my soul, my r and stage a

698
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: couple months ago. Yeah. But but but but we were

699
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: doing my song sticking to my guns, you know what

700
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, I feel like when when Stevie wanted

701
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: to to talk about God, then he just did, right,

702
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: then I have to go and make a gospel record

703
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: to do it. And that's that's kind of my That's

704
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: what kind of with Marvin. If he wanted to reference

705
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: God to talk about guy Donnie, you felt even if

706
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: he wasn't talking about God, it felt like church. So

707
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: I get that same thing, whatever that is that you

708
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: want from that. One of the things I really like,

709
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 1: like my how I first got onto you, I mentioned

710
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: in my road call My Home girl. Carlita Durrant. She's

711
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: a young singer. She's in uh from Durham. And so

712
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 1: she we were this is man, this is like a

713
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: decade ago, it's like teen years ago. She was like, yo,

714
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 1: um you up on p J. Morton. I was like nah,

715
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: I was like the preacher. She's like, no, this's his daddy,

716
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: like his dad, he has a son. I was like,

717
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: oh ship. Yes. So she was like, um. So she

718
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: played me the first thing I heard of yours. It

719
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: was it was a live show and you ended with

720
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: the cheers things where everybody yeah, like dude, but he

721
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 1: does it like he turns. Yeah. Oh god. She was like, yo,

722
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: you gotta hear him. He got three background scenes to

723
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 1: sound just like him. And so we played this ship

724
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: and so I could hearing you. Now I could understand

725
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: how to find the church and whatever you see the

726
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: same feeling, it gives me the same whatever that is.

727
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, um, which is why I

728
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: just never say I would never say, Okay, now here's

729
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: the gospel record. It's like, now it would be sprinkled

730
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: in there. If I want to go there, you gotta

731
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: find it. You gotta get to it. Let me find

732
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: you rather. What's the name of the gospel choir your

733
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: dad's church? Um? What was great to St. Stephen's Mass choir? Okay?

734
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: Did they have records and some records? Yeah, my dad

735
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: had some records, like Your Tears was a big song

736
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: that he did. Let It Rain was later on, but

737
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: that was a big song. It was like purple Rain

738
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: and Okay, how do we hear this gospel version of

739
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: cheers out of here? Um? I saw on his record

740
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 1: I did called Live in l A. Yeah, where everybody

741
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: knows as Yeah, but it felt that that's the way

742
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: we ended the shows for like eight years or something.

743
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: There was a period we I think we ended we

744
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: stopped doing it. One time I did it, Samuel Jackson

745
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: was in the audience and he was looking like huh.

746
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: And then I think we dropped I think what term

747
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: and just started doing like TV themes at the end. Yeah.

748
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: I did it in Europe or Asia and they were

749
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: looking like I was like, I don't want to do

750
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: it anymore. That's what kind of stopped me from doing it.

751
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: Just shout out to the jazzy because I used that's

752
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: how they used to close their set at the Black

753
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 1: Lily every Tuesday. Oh really yeah, really yeah, they didn't

754
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: tell was that you was on what they gonna tell you?

755
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 1: I wonder where they got that idea. Who did it first? Question?

756
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: Who did it first? Gary Portnoy did it? I got

757
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: that forty five. Yeah, that's like, that's such a good song. Yeah,

758
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: I love that song. I'm trying to figure out if

759
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 1: there's a full album that, like a Gary Portnoy album.

760
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: I never did the verse, but I love the verse. Wait,

761
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: Gary port knew there's two verses in the real Yeah,

762
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: I've heard it. Yeah, Steve song, Yeah song, I like

763
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: when you sing alone. Shout out to Gary Portnoy. You

764
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: know he doesn't he doesn't get enough nobody talks about

765
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: I know, man, did he spend his check? But he

766
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: did he write that song? Or did he just sing it?

767
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: I don't really know. I'm not sure. I'm not sure

768
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: you acted like you knew Steve would know the history

769
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: of it. But I'm just being honest. Oh yeah, no,

770
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know he wrote it along with

771
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 1: Judy hart Angelo. Well, since you're one of the few

772
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 1: or first leaders of a gospel choir church, I gotta

773
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: know how how how First of all, what's the membership?

774
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: What's the size? And yes, um, and I don't know.

775
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: I was, I was young. I don't visually maybe people

776
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: that's my worst nightmare. Yeah, I mean I already shaky

777
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: as an empty of my own situation that I actually created.

778
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: But how how are you able to maintain the respect

779
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 1: and the attention of over two hundred people? Now, I've

780
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: seen it that I never so as music director I was,

781
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 1: it was just banned. I didn't I never had to

782
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: deal with choir members. That's a whole that was never

783
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: about to be my jam. Yeah. No, I've seen that.

784
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: We've seen the wrangle the choir members and stuff. But no,

785
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 1: it was always the band. Okay, So I don't know. Yeah,

786
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: Now you went when when did you go to the house? Um?

787
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: I went nine graduating? No three, that's the one thing.

788
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: We were almost almost classmates. What is that the house?

789
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 1: I almost went there? You almost went there almost? Now

790
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: I went there to classes. Wait, I want some spelling knights,

791
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: And where would you go? No, you didn't go to

792
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: spelling I'm just saying, no, she just went to more house.

793
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: I love. I was saying I had some spelling knights

794
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 1: in my class. I didn't have any Clark students. Okay, alright,

795
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: well I did you over there? I was over there.

796
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: I did some Spellman's ones too. You might as well

797
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: paying for it. It's when Spike was on the show.

798
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: We didn't get into it. But what what is it

799
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: like at Morehouse? And was it? Is it as prestidges

800
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: as it's as the folklore of it, I'll say that

801
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: it it does instill some pride, like you know so

802
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: so so when I was in New Orleans growing up

803
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,919
Speaker 1: and I was the flat preacher's kid, right who could

804
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: play and all of that, um, it was like one

805
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: of me kinda right. Then you go to more House

806
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying, and it shows you like, okay,

807
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: well I'm not alone in that, and it it kind

808
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,959
Speaker 1: of demands you to want to have a certain level

809
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: uh and some of the history there and the way

810
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 1: they teach you about that history and make sure you

811
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: know it, um, you know, and who went there too,

812
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: you know from the mL case y'all lifted up a

813
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: mail more House man like and make sure that pride

814
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: is there. Um. So whatever you do after that, and

815
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: you at least you have that. You know what I'm saying. Really, yeah,

816
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: don't you don't get mad like I do when those

817
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: alumni emails come through and you're like, no, where I

818
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: went to me? I went to a small state school Indiana,

819
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: but only because they paid for everything. So that's what

820
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: was where I went to Flying the Central University, graduated

821
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: in oh one Steve, the University of Maryland, Yes, Clark

822
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: and Morgan State. Damn, I'm the only motherfucker college. But

823
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: every time, all right, O, man, I want to go

824
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: to college. Man, they give you a degree, you know,

825
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: they just give you one. We had to go there,

826
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: and it's true, it's I'm sure you've been offered many.

827
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: I just got my degree from Princeton University and what

828
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: back back in February without going to one class I've taught. Yes,

829
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,959
Speaker 1: I got my honor so you can call me doctor

830
00:49:48,080 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: Love now. Yeah, I'm doctor Love now. Congratulations. Weird in enough.

831
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: They want me to teach there and give lectures there,

832
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 1: but you know, I don't know if I could actually

833
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: have the jobs to that's certificate. But you don't keep

834
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: that in the bathroom. In the bathroom, keep everything in

835
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: the bathroom. I gave out the plone with my MoMA.

836
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: I gave it. I just I've never even seen mine.

837
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: I don't know where mine is. That's fun, mine's box stuff.

838
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: I'll sell your mine. Got to love. No, But I'm

839
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: just saying that from watching, from watching a different world,

840
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: and you know how sure, yeah, that's that's not but

841
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: it was. It was fun man, and and it's your people.

842
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 1: And so the whole school days and all that wasn't

843
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: a thing much more Greeks against you, goddamn individuals g

844
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: D I s. So in that way, that's what we

845
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: called ourselves. I was a g D. I was you

846
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: not a g D I Bill, I know you was

847
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: a g D. I I was, but I never heard

848
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 1: that term. I'm mad. I didn't hear in twenty years. Yeah, yeah,

849
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: he had an album. Yeah, I never wait, he was

850
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: real not he was real? He was a real No.

851
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: I know, I just saved me find me when they

852
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 1: asked me what I was pledging as I also remember

853
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: Mousa moved, but that's because I watched too much BT

854
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: back into the college hits from the streets and when

855
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: he went around in the he went to Howard and

856
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: when I went to high school, he's working the store

857
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: across street was over there, and he would entertain us.

858
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: He was funny. Yeah. Yeah, we didn't have the I

859
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: mean we had the for terms of course, but I

860
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: mean I played football, so I turned. It wasn't g

861
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: D it was it was severe play football in college. Yeah,

862
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 1: my first time. Yeah, I didn't wanna do that ship.

863
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: I was tired. He gave a job. Like, nigga, you

864
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: like that ship is your life, Like you were on

865
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: a football scholarship. No, no, no, I was on academic

866
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: scholarship and then I just walked on the team. And

867
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: so hey, guys, okay, yeah, yeah, that's the thing in

868
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: college football, like they don't really well, at least at

869
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: our school. You didn't really make cuts, so to speak.

870
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: So like if your grades was on point, you could

871
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: come out for the team. But by the time you

872
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: get through workouts, between injuries, between niggas, that's ineligible. Somebody

873
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: didn't got his girlfriend pregnant by the end of the

874
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: summer workouts, some space, that's who left. You can make it.

875
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: It's like it's like you made it. You on the team.

876
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,959
Speaker 1: You didn't quit, you didn't you didn't flunk out whatever.

877
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, that it was crazy. So we just call

878
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: people civilians, like if you didn't playing like when I stopped,

879
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: when I stopped playing ball, all the boys like, you're

880
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,919
Speaker 1: about to go live civilian life like Seville, Like that's

881
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: what it was. So between civilian life and the AUC

882
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: and then the whole hierarchy of the Moorhouse Spellman Clark

883
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: and then at the time Morris Brown wasn't there when

884
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: you were there. I think it was on its way out. Okay,

885
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, that was a whole. That was a thing too,

886
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: a little thing, but not as much as it was

887
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 1: on the movie. Because my first girlfriend went to Mars Brown.

888
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: Good for you, I jumped over freshman a year. Freshman year.

889
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: You brought her outside? What does that mean? She was

890
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: outside of What does that mean? Because I tell him

891
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: the phrase, PJ. You what you married a spellman? You know,

892
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: don't you know? The phrase you married the whole phrase?

893
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: But but basically, yeah, unfortunately, there was a hierarchy. You

894
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 1: married Calman girl, you cheat on her with the Clark

895
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: girl and then the Morris Brown one, you know, the

896
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: moors Browns to jump off. Yeah, wow, you brought her outside? Yeah,

897
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: I will say unfortunately to to help the stereotype, the stereotype.

898
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: She just had to come to Morris Brown for the

899
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 1: first semester because the spell and stuff was late, and

900
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: then she went second semester spelling. So you cheated. That

901
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: ain't a real more brown girl. Hey that I was

902
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 1: over there on that campus and it was like what

903
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: you're doing over you know that what I'm doing over there?

904
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: They locked the gates spellman in like eight o'clock a night.

905
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: So that's the thing. So that's the thing. So in

906
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: the black straight up, I mean, because I remember you're

907
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: in the Bible Belt. So coed visitation is like that's

908
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: like a thing. So what you would have to do,

909
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: like in our dorm in Chile, like you would have

910
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: to sign in your guests, but like niggas never wanted

911
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: to sign in because you don't want other people. Yeah,

912
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: so you could just sneak a john on the side

913
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: or whatever, like you sneak joints in. And so the

914
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 1: first sign like we came and we went to the

915
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: first time we parted at you and see Carolina Chapel Hill,

916
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: which is like the big white school like fifteen twenty

917
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: minutes down the road, and like we saw how they

918
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: lived over there how like it was like two girls.

919
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 1: It's like four girls in a suite and it's just open.

920
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: Just come. Is you different? Way different? No? No, no

921
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: she was because the thing was like she was. It

922
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: was she was black, but like she had like white

923
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: home girls and ship. But the thing was like Central.

924
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: So I guess the hierarchy, the whole hierarchy in the

925
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: triangle was, I guess you marry a duke nigga, if

926
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: you could get one, you catch you can catch your

927
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 1: duke because he got this white girl. If you get

928
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: your dukee nigga. But like, but like Central, we had

929
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: the reputation for just being just cool and like we

930
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: was just niggas, like just so like all the chicken

931
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: they like they used to funk with us because we

932
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: just didn't care. So we go to Carolina, like you know,

933
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: we're like many digs corny, Like we used to take

934
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: all they hold but their food in their good cafeteria. Right,

935
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: different countries, being representative ship they had when you got

936
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 1: to the white school. Because I have friends that went

937
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: to white had a friend and went to w and

938
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: have a friend and with the pits around in California

939
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: and that life was just like it opened my I

940
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 1: was like like one of my boys, Like he moved

941
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: in over the he was like living with a girl

942
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 1: in the house that was the dorm Aeron house. Like

943
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: he was Damn, I'm like, nigga, where you being? You

944
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: know what I manto And this is pre Instagram, pre

945
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: like fake soul. Ain't no track in your moves, man.

946
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: But I would not trade I can and I'm sure PJ.

947
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure I would not trade my black college experience,

948
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: no way nothing. It was so good. And if you

949
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: got caught where this was the rumor, if you got

950
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: caught leaving Spellman's campus too late, they the security had

951
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: rubber bullets ship so you would have to run like

952
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: it was Vietnam duty. I never experienced it, but that

953
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: was the that was the folklore. They put them tricks

954
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: on pedestals too, but they was always falling off. Still better,

955
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:52,439
Speaker 1: that's that's now. Benett was like that too, and well

956
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 1: now they've saved. Been in college in Greensboro. But I

957
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: grew up down the street from Bennett, and it was

958
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: the same thing. Like if you saw a Benet girl

959
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: the eight lots at a certain time and you gotta

960
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 1: get up back didn't get a clock girl any time

961
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: of the day we're here. Yeah, they like girls. Clode

962
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: girls were cool, though. I like cloth girls because they

963
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: were used to the guys being around. It wasn't too crazy.

964
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: They were always a little more chill. All right, So now,

965
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: all right, I always wanted to do this question, no,

966
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: because for from an outsider point of view, especially going

967
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: to Atlanta a lot in the nineties and which booty

968
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: clubs were, Like, yeah, you know, it was the thing

969
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: to do, but I also know that there's a certain

970
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: amount of bawling you have to do in order to

971
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: do that. But on ya, every fun out on the

972
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: college level, like how is that possible? Like house the

973
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: spelling in a different world? The rich suck a mirror,

974
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: like I transferred from Morgan State, right, I'm telling you

975
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: right now. When I walked on that campus, I was

976
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: like what fun freshmen were like BMW's and Benzses and

977
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: ship like you see, his daddy had twenty thousand people

978
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: in the congregation and he was the broke one in

979
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: the Like alright, Well, I was a musician already, so

980
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: I was working myself, so I did alright, Uh, but

981
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: but I wasn't a big on strip. So I was

982
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: trying to I was a nerd in the censeer. I

983
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: didn't mean. I'm just saying that the things that I

984
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: know Atlanta for is falsely culture is concerned. I mean

985
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: I kind of think that in order to really experience

986
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: the Atlanta that's always shown to me in TV and

987
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: movies and videos, you always gotta I'm and I'm being

988
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: very I'm trying to be those guys. You need two

989
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: d really my mind, I'm thinking, yeah, you need about

990
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: seven thousand dollars too. I don't want you to make

991
00:58:56,240 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: fun of Mese. Not a magic sitting listen. I never

992
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: had it, those dudes. That's why I should tell people, PJ,

993
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: why are you paying for dance when the dude beside

994
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: you was right there with the chick, just look like,

995
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: go ahead, man yourself. And then Atlanta at that time,

996
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: because this is when when I was there, Trip club

997
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: culture was like really starting to pop. It wasn't all

998
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: the wait at his head, but it was like really

999
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: starting to pop. And them dudes, I couldn't understand it.

1000
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: They won't even be looking at the chicks like it's

1001
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: a status thing. I guess, but I could never wrap

1002
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: my head around it, and I'm like, I like money

1003
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: too much, but they just talk throwing. I'm like, it's

1004
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: it's a networking thing. Like it's almost like yeah, it's yeah,

1005
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: like you don't I mean, you go for the women

1006
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: are there, but it's almost they're just like decorations. But yeah, accessories.

1007
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: I mean I got that when I went with my

1008
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: friends and and we would just be hanging out for

1009
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: birthday or something. But I don't know this dudes that

1010
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: did that a lot, you know what I'm saying, And

1011
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I don't have it like that the

1012
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: first time. I when when like make it ring culture

1013
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: is like really just starting to the point where they

1014
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: keep they would keep score of I think, ah, what

1015
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: is everybody in the club getting tipsy? What was right?

1016
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: He was the chance like they keep a high score.

1017
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: I guess the point is that who can throw. Well,

1018
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: it wasn't that it was based on It was based

1019
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: on when the last dollar would drop to the floor

1020
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: and then they would stop the climate. Right And after

1021
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: a while what's his name took me, Chris Robinson took

1022
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: me and I said, yo, I said, they're not They're

1023
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: not you know, he was still doing outcast videos or whatever.

1024
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: But at one point I was like, wait a minute,

1025
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: why do I get the feeling that they're not even

1026
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: paying attention to that said, yeah, they're not, like they're

1027
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: not here to trick off of the women or whatever.

1028
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,959
Speaker 1: They're here basically to let each other know my money

1029
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: stronger than yours. At the time I was there, it

1030
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: was Chuck. I guess it was a I a I

1031
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: versus and I forget who. It's some football player or whatever.

1032
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: There was a bank in the basement. It wasn't Magic City,

1033
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 1: but it was like whatever is whatever it was popping

1034
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: in two thousand and five. It wasn't this the other

1035
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 1: one I remember that. I think that was the first

1036
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 1: one I went to making certificate, getting certificates of the

1037
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: posts after right, No, it was it was it was

1038
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: just like players Club, like some some they gave them,

1039
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: they gave them whatever, and then they came they will

1040
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: back a big gass uh will barrow of like twenties here.

1041
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. So AI threw his his his

1042
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: drawings up right and they fell down. One of those

1043
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: twenties wins right between my afro pick in my afro.

1044
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: I swear to God, I literally and the guy the

1045
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 1: guards stopped me. I'll get that for you, and wow,

1046
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 1: because that's her money, dude, b it was you know

1047
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: how slippery a cheesecake factory is, like with all the

1048
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: oil on the ground. Why are you laughing? Have you

1049
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 1: ever walked in a cheesecake factory only with you? It

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01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: is noted. I think that. Look, listeners, if you listen

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01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: out there, please verify. And he gets this far in

1052
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 1: this conversation. Deep down, I'm telling you cheesecake factories have

1053
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 1: the slippery ist marble floor. That the collection of grease,

1054
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 1: the collective grease on the floor. It's like ice skating.

1055
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: It's like a lawsuit waiting to happen. And I'm still

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01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: going to spot I mean you godamn anyway, Yeah, you

1057
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: can't get out of there with nothing less than like

1058
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 1: two thousand colors, like like it was in the Eat

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01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 1: this dot net Eat This not that book and like

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01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: I bought and they were just like basically like never

1061
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: eat here. Yeah. They was like, yo, this is a

1062
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 1: never and she can't get to it because after you finished,

1063
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: you're done. Yeah, the portion size is a huge, But

1064
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 1: the point my point was that My point was that

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01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: a half hour after making it rain. It's just literally

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01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: just twenties on the ground and um. But then just

1067
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 1: like the Players Club movie, like someone presses a green

1068
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,479
Speaker 1: button and then all of a sudden, like twenty people

1069
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 1: coming out with with uh brooms and dust pans and

1070
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: garbage bags and put the money inside. So then how

1071
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 1: do they so, how did they determine who gets the twenties?

1072
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: Like how it's a trust system. There's one club that

1073
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 1: I know of in which the owner actually pays them.

1074
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: I think their system is more like a like a contractor. Yeah, yeah,

1075
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: it's a contracted thing. Um, and there's a pre arranged

1076
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 1: thing so like none of the tips have a minimum. Yeah,

1077
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 1: so wow, that was a major rabbit might be the

1078
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: most random rabbit hole of history. Slippery cheesecake back. I

1079
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 1: looked that up on Google and a lot of people

1080
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 1: ask the same question about the floor. It is noted

1081
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: that Cheesecake Factory has the slipperyest floor ever. Yeah, like

1082
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,919
Speaker 1: I would you could if you really want to take

1083
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 1: off a petty lawsuit. How do you know what I

1084
01:04:53,520 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 1: was thinking about doing this weekend? Oh wait, we're recording this.

1085
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: Damn my back? Wait, damn, this is even fundamental do

1086
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 1: you have any siblings? Are you the only Yeah, we

1087
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: put you in college in the strip club. I got

1088
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: two sisters, older and younger in the middle only boy,

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01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: are they in the arts at all? Or? Um? My

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01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 1: oldest sister is a singer. Well, she doesn't really sing

1091
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 1: that much anymore, but she's she can sing. My younger

1092
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: sister is like a dope graphic artist. Actually, okay, okay now,

1093
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 1: And no one else in your family's musically inclined and

1094
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: no I mean my dad, yeah, my uncle. Um, did

1095
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 1: your wife sing? She's a hair stylist. Yeah. Not. I

1096
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 1: used to date musicians all the time, like singers. I'm like,

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01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 1: I want you to understand it, but I don't. I

1098
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: don't want you to be in it. That's a no. No.

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01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 1: That means y'all all know how difficult it is to

1100
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 1: date yourself. Absolutely, Yeah, you can't. That's why I don't

1101
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 1: know for real. Yeah, there's there's only one Mike in

1102
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 1: this house. Actually, they're yeah, what'slow superior and not be appropriate? Yeah,

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01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: the artist artist relationship, that ship is not not. Yeah,

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01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 1: I mean it's good theory when you think theory, has

1105
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 1: it ever worked? Beyonce? You know I said you was

1106
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 1: going down, just like the elema I got you, I

1107
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 1: got your artist artist relationship? What uh do Angela and

1108
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: Courtney Beans? Yeah that counts. And I'm saying I believe that.

1109
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 1: I feel like musicians are a different level of thinking.

1110
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: If you knew how before he was famous, of any

1111
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: I think actors can do it. But hmmm, because even

1112
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 1: when like people are like, hey man, why don't you

1113
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 1: take no no no, no no no, and I know

1114
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: how crazy no no no, no, no no no, yeah,

1115
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 1: all the people that people imagine me getting paired up with,

1116
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: it's just it's you know, a matter of fact, weren't

1117
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 1: you with me? Uh? Did you go to the Rock

1118
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:40,919
Speaker 1: and Roll Hall of Fame? Uh? With us? The year

1119
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if I inducted Hall of Notes. Maybe

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01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: it was the year after, remember n w A got

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01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 1: uh inducted in Chicago. Yeah, but there was there was

1122
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: a there was an incident, a meltdown incident with a

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01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: well done. If you ain't gonna give us no names,

1124
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 1: don't we tell him us no story? Come on now

1125
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 1: and give us us. Let him finish what he's saying.

1126
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 1: They maybe we can figure it out anyway. So p

1127
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:12,479
Speaker 1: J No, I'm world famous for not dropping. That makes

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01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: Fonte angry. I'm gonna figure out because Hall of Fame

1129
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 1: that night and I can't remember. I'm sorry. No, no, no,

1130
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: she was. I mean she was my date. But it's weird.

1131
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,560
Speaker 1: I was too busy trip. I was sitting next to

1132
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 1: David Burns. You were there with I was at that table, right, Yeah,

1133
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 1: they got inducted a year because I was cracking up

1134
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 1: because it was nine eleven, like nine eleven when they

1135
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 1: when they got inducted. What year? Who was was Bonnie

1136
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 1: right there at all? That night? I don't think so.

1137
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 1: Steve Miller was there, Okay, okay, okay, No, this is

1138
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: the night where uh Linda ron Stat and the Eas

1139
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 1: Street Band was. I wasn't there that so maybe that's

1140
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 1: the year before. Yeah, I was seeing someone notable in

1141
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 1: R and b uh during this time period of genre

1142
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: we're near right now. She she was known, she was known.

1143
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 1: She you know, she she had love one. She she

1144
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: might have one of the six in park Love you know,

1145
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 1: okay of that, um n. Yeah. But it was just

1146
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 1: weird because in that particular environment, which you know, the

1147
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:39,640
Speaker 1: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is is uh you know,

1148
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 1: presented by Rolling Stone magazine and the kind of old

1149
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 1: boy network. Okay, yes that means you mean white people

1150
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 1: with mirror Yes, exactly why people? Right, So it wasn't

1151
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:57,719
Speaker 1: she wasn't that known to them, and so it didn't

1152
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: make a difference. But then I've been in situation was

1153
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 1: with her where it's like, but we would know how

1154
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 1: she has way more followers than I do. Yeah, and

1155
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: so um yeah, that that night was really weird with

1156
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 1: the red carpet thing, because you know, I felt like, well,

1157
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 1: you could take photos on your own red carpet, huh.

1158
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 1: But because let's see what Getty talking about. There isn't

1159
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 1: photos of us together because Getty got it, get it,

1160
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 1: get it. Might be it might be out of the

1161
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 1: let me see what I am is talking about. Really, guys, Okay,

1162
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 1: just helped though. It's probably if there's some random R

1163
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 1: and B that wasn't supposed to be at this all

1164
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 1: that it's supposed to be. It's just that not less

1165
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 1: like that wasn't her scene necessary? Right, That wasn't her scene,

1166
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 1: and I think she wasn't used to it would be

1167
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 1: that I'm really like to shanty, but I'm just saying

1168
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 1: that I missed it. I'm missed it. I missed it.

1169
01:10:56,120 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 1: I had to be quick. Um no, no, she's on me.

1170
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:13,799
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying that. But did she miss that? Anyway?

1171
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 1: My point, my point is that because of this environment,

1172
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 1: this person wasn't that known. It was a little problematic,

1173
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 1: and um, for that person, it's a problemating the people

1174
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 1: don't know who that person was. For her, well, you

1175
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 1: know it's it's it's an ego blow. It's an ego blow,

1176
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 1: and so it comes out in other ways. And you know,

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01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm just waiting the next year. You tell us you

1178
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 1: at Chef's house with lam. Where are you trying to say? Teams? Yeah,

1179
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 1: I think she really really, I don't know. Are you

1180
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:57,600
Speaker 1: trying to start rumors? No, no, I wasn't. I just

1181
01:11:58,200 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 1: you just check it on Google see if there's anything

1182
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: first before you start putting stuff out on it. So

1183
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 1: that's a compliment. I know nothing about her other than

1184
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 1: just that song. So I just don't even know. The

1185
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 1: song sounds just like the other one testing trying with it,

1186
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:25,639
Speaker 1: called to testify, bowed back up. I'm bowed up again? Okay,

1187
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 1: so joy, Yeah, yeah, so I was creous. So did

1188
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 1: you learn to play? Were you formally trained just by ear. No,

1189
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 1: it's all ear. Yeah. And my mom was from the

1190
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 1: old school and really wanted me to learn how to play,

1191
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 1: and you know I wanted to, but I was like

1192
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:47,640
Speaker 1: playing stuff on the radio and TV show things and

1193
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 1: that after that is when she put me in lessons.

1194
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 1: And then I went back to and I was like,

1195
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 1: I can't so what was the first thing to discipline?

1196
01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: Where's the first song you learned? Uh? I thought it

1197
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 1: was something I wrote. Then I realized it was something

1198
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 1: that existed already. Yeah, I used to play this this

1199
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: thing and see I don't know what it's called, but um,

1200
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 1: like the first song I can really remember. Um maybe

1201
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 1: like like those were the days like all in the family,

1202
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: which but yeah, like real songs. So I used to

1203
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 1: play little things, you know, uh, little like pieces of things,

1204
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: but I don't know if they were actually songs because

1205
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 1: so in church, you know, with the talking music and stuff, right,

1206
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 1: like like the guys sitting on the organ plane. Yeah,

1207
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 1: I was playing person in the entire church. That was

1208
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 1: my favorite person in Yeah, so I would learn things

1209
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 1: that weren't actually songs, but they would just pieces. Yeah.

1210
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 1: I remember people used to walk up to me, like

1211
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 1: what you're playing and I'm like, I don't know, I

1212
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 1: just I just playing it. Yeah yeah, but All in

1213
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 1: the Family was one like and well, that's watching the

1214
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 1: end credits or the beginning ones, because oh yeah, because

1215
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 1: again the end credits or we learned that all that family. No, no,

1216
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 1: at the end, you're talking about what's happened. That's what's happening. No, no, no,

1217
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 1: at the end of at the end of talking about

1218
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 1: the beginning right, right, So at the end of All

1219
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 1: the Family, when the credits are growing up, it's more

1220
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: of a Dixie Land. Okay, No, I didn't know. I didn't.

1221
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 1: I didn't play that parts. You know, it's still the

1222
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 1: same it's it's still the same field, right, but it's

1223
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 1: piano in the Wait a minute, me and light ye

1224
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 1: are the only ones that recognize all the families. The

1225
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 1: other things I wasn't really annoying. What what you mean

1226
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 1: that I wasn't I watched. I wasn't watching. I wasn't

1227
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 1: allowed to watch All the Family. But I still know

1228
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 1: that that part was. I mean, I know the theme song,

1229
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 1: those were the days, you know. I'm knew that. I

1230
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 1: don't know if I really watched it like, I don't know,

1231
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:07,640
Speaker 1: because I was later on exactly that she would come

1232
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 1: on like, well, we're watching it. Yeah someth maybe I

1233
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 1: heard that first ever get it just like it was

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01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 1: time to go to bed with Masha the Mash want

1235
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 1: to tend. I don't know, I don't know. I know

1236
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 1: it was dead when I came on. Yeah, but I

1237
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 1: was watching addicted to it in syndication. Used to always

1238
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 1: come on at ten o'clock. Yeah, it was time to go. Yeah,

1239
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that. Yeah, I only know mash

1240
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 1: Fords theme and it's in credit. Yeah, exactly, brought to

1241
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 1: you by you know, like but literally never seemed Mash

1242
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 1: and always wanted to know what made it so great. No,

1243
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 1: I never watched that show either. I wasn't a lave

1244
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 1: in the seventies doing a fet not more so be

1245
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 1: able to really give you a good answer for that

1246
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 1: not relevant content. So what is your what is what

1247
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 1: is your your your practice riche or your creative rituals? Like, um,

1248
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure it's more than just learning TV

1249
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 1: themes and you know what, I used to ask people

1250
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 1: how to practice. Okay, So since I didn't know that,

1251
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 1: since I didn't learn formally. Um My, my practice was

1252
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,879
Speaker 1: playing what I knew right until I made a mistake.

1253
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 1: And a lot of times my mistakes would lead me

1254
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 1: to like whatever the next thing is, and I'm like, oh,

1255
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 1: that's how they played that. But I didn't have a

1256
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 1: practice regiment, and I was playing so much because you

1257
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 1: had you know, you had Sunday and then you had

1258
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:45,680
Speaker 1: like rehearsal on Tuesday, and then you had like mid

1259
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 1: day on Wednesday. So I felt like I was that

1260
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,679
Speaker 1: was more of my practice was like on the while

1261
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 1: I was playing with my friends, as opposed to I

1262
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 1: didn't know how to practice, which sounds weird. Are you

1263
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 1: the first I mean winner that I didn't have that

1264
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 1: You weren't under the tutelage or the thumb of a

1265
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 1: drill sergeant Joe Jackson esque figure. No, like doesn't mean

1266
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 1: my dad. My dad knew how to play like one

1267
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 1: thing really well, and I thought he could really play

1268
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 1: when I before I could play, and I'm like, man,

1269
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 1: show me that, and I started to pass him up.

1270
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 1: He was like, you don't want to learn from me.

1271
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 1: So I didn't have anybody who was like I really

1272
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,600
Speaker 1: just wanted to do it, you know, So nobody had

1273
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 1: to push me. Once I got out of lessons, Once

1274
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 1: I got out of like somebody trying to teach me

1275
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 1: how to play, it just was my That was That

1276
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: became my basketball once I stop growing. Yo, I gotta

1277
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 1: know what your dad said the day you told him

1278
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 1: you got the MA Room five job, because I feel

1279
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 1: like he was like, huh, well, I don't know if

1280
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 1: my dad knew who He didn't at what point did

1281
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 1: he feel? At what point did he know? And then

1282
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I guess this is probably one of

1283
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 1: those war shows. He's like, boy, you been all right? Boy,

1284
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 1: see you up there. I saw you on that go

1285
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 1: probably the Grammys or something. You know. I was playing.

1286
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 1: We played my first year. I think we did like

1287
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 1: a Beach Boys tribute, and he and my dad probably

1288
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 1: deal how did that come about? How did you come

1289
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 1: and get into the band? So that that is quest

1290
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 1: that was basically, um, um, thank you. They were looking

1291
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 1: for a keyboard well, unbeknowns to me at that time too,

1292
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 1: the original keyboard player was planning on leaving the band,

1293
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 1: but I didn't know that. I think they kind of

1294
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 1: had conversations about it, which is how I was able

1295
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 1: to come in because after Matt like the drummer, and

1296
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 1: said he was like, man, we didn't want another player,

1297
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 1: like we didn't want anybody else in the band. This

1298
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 1: was kind of Jesse's idea in a way. Um um,

1299
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 1: and shout out to Jesse, because he just he's the

1300
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 1: most loving person, like he wanted another keyboard player with him, right,

1301
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 1: So the first two years, Um, well, so they called

1302
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 1: you and you couldn't do it because you just got foulon.

1303
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 1: This was almost nine years ago, and black Stone came

1304
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 1: in and they asked him if he knew anybody who

1305
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 1: could play and sing, and so black called me. I

1306
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 1: canceled the rest of my tour. I had like three

1307
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 1: days left on my tour. I'm like I was tired anyway,

1308
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 1: because I was just on that same little little carousel.

1309
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 1: I went to l a audition for them. It was

1310
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 1: my first audition in life, you know, um, And it

1311
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 1: was their first audition, like they had been a band

1312
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 1: since eighth grade. So they brought me in the first day.

1313
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 1: I auditioned first, and I could just feel like maybe

1314
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 1: it was my ignorance of not auditioning before, but they

1315
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 1: just want me to learn. Sunday morning, I played that

1316
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 1: and they were like, well, what else you know? And

1317
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 1: I was like, I know a little bit of what.

1318
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 1: So we started just jamming and it started to feel

1319
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 1: more like friends. I could tell they were the cats.

1320
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 1: They were one of the guys you know. And um,

1321
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 1: so they had another guy there waiting and they were like,

1322
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 1: we knew already, but they just let him audition. And

1323
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:57,879
Speaker 1: they had a second day of auditions that they just canceled,

1324
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:00,680
Speaker 1: and I was they told me the next day and

1325
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 1: that the rest was history. And I guess that next

1326
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 1: week is probably when you came in and we actually

1327
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:08,680
Speaker 1: started rehearsals, and um, what album was that you came

1328
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 1: in on? So they just had finished this album hands

1329
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 1: all over. Um so just before his Boy and this

1330
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 1: is before moves like Jack. We always call it post

1331
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 1: moves like jaggering and pre moves like jagging. So was

1332
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 1: that was that the records? I mean, I know, but

1333
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, like that was moved like Jack of

1334
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 1: the one that really kind of took them to the other. Yea.

1335
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 1: So they had this love and she will be loved.

1336
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 1: That was they were big, right, and then there was

1337
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 1: like a plateau kind of period. Uh, it was when

1338
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:46,639
Speaker 1: I came in. I felt like Billy Preston coming in. Yeah.

1339
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 1: And and but then we toured that album hands all Over,

1340
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:53,640
Speaker 1: which was kind of first record that they did the

1341
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 1: same way, all writing in the room together and um.

1342
01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 1: And then I remember when the voice call came man

1343
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 1: and this song moves like Jagger, and it was kind

1344
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 1: of a you know, kind of a conscious effort like

1345
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:08,639
Speaker 1: all right, do we want to you know, be big

1346
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 1: just here or do we want to be big big?

1347
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 1: You know? And I think I think it was a

1348
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:15,680
Speaker 1: conscious effort to like turn a corner. And that's when

1349
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:18,680
Speaker 1: moves like Jagger came in. And and then we did

1350
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 1: Overexposed and that was pay phone and it was like

1351
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 1: five number ones in a row usually uh are or

1352
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 1: was Maroon five? Ambracive of these new shoes that they

1353
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:35,720
Speaker 1: were about to wear, because usually if you get hits

1354
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 1: that easy and that I guess palatable to to America's

1355
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 1: ears or whatnot, a lot of times out of ten

1356
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 1: people will shy away from that. You know. I've seen

1357
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 1: I've seen about ten artists have something so captain obvious

1358
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 1: that it's just like this is gonna be it for them,

1359
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 1: and I'll find that they will figure out a way

1360
01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 1: to get out of that situation. But with these guys,

1361
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 1: especially once um overexposed happens and stuff like h like,

1362
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 1: was it even hesitgency? Like what was the feelings of, Okay, well,

1363
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this reality show and this month? I

1364
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 1: think there was there. It was hesitant initially just for

1365
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 1: the show, right, just because at that time, I guess

1366
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 1: moves like I mean, the voice was like a Dutch

1367
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 1: show or something like that, right, and it it had

1368
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:31,880
Speaker 1: been kind of successful, but nobody knew what it was

1369
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 1: gonna be here in the States, so they were like, man,

1370
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 1: reality TV, you know, we're a band, blah blah blah.

1371
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 1: We don't know. And then that ended up being like

1372
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 1: a huge blessing for us, like we premiered every single

1373
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 1: on there that went number one. You know what I'm saying,

1374
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 1: I got more out well straight up, I always say

1375
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 1: that the coaches are the winners. Yeah, yeah, who's the

1376
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 1: Kelly Clarkson of a voice? Who's the It was your

1377
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 1: boy Noel what's his name? That peach back And he

1378
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 1: came one like the second year Adam. He was one

1379
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 1: of Adam's winners. But he actually had a record out

1380
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 1: like ten years before the Africa. I know you're talking

1381
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 1: about you can Eat for Hours. Yeah, yeah, he won

1382
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 1: the voice like second year, I think, yeah, because yeah,

1383
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 1: see one, but I know you're talking about but not

1384
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 1: Navier had a record out before. Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna

1385
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,640
Speaker 1: figure it out. I didn't know it because I know

1386
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 1: that the Peach for Hour dude toward with Us he was, Yeah,

1387
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 1: it was on Raucus Smokey Robinson. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

1388
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 1: but I think, um, at least I mean for for

1389
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 1: Adam and Blake, it really like put it put a

1390
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:57,560
Speaker 1: you know, a battery in our backs and like the

1391
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 1: only reason why I know who Blake shot us. Yeah.

1392
01:23:59,880 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 1: I remember Adam saying who was going to be on

1393
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 1: the show that first season with c Christina, him and Blake.

1394
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 1: He and I remember us calling him the country guy

1395
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 1: because we didn't know, you know, he was like, this

1396
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 1: is some country guy. And then but a year later, Blake,

1397
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 1: I mean, and he was already huge in that world,

1398
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: but we just didn't didn't know, you know, kind of

1399
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 1: a natural fit for television. Yeah, he actually I think

1400
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:28,560
Speaker 1: after sitting after sitting in with Us, Adam said in

1401
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 1: with the with Us on a particular day that whoever

1402
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 1: is the showrunner or the voice happened to be at

1403
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:40,680
Speaker 1: thirty Rock and saw it was like, oh, this guy

1404
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 1: is charismatic whatever, and then at the commercial break they

1405
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 1: that's when they actually pitched it. Like, I think it

1406
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 1: was great for him because that was the thing. Nobody

1407
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 1: knew his personality and he is a cool, fun person,

1408
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 1: so it was kind of a perfect fit for TV.

1409
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 1: And there's just something to be said about being in

1410
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 1: people's houses three times a week at night. It just

1411
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 1: starts to you three times a week. Yeah, once they

1412
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 1: get into those live shows and the competition and the

1413
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 1: it's a lot of you know what I'm saying, um,

1414
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 1: And that's just I mean, if even if you're I

1415
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 1: mean think with Cosby Show, even if it's one week,

1416
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:19,800
Speaker 1: one day a week, you know what I'm saying, you

1417
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 1: start to know those people. And it just really helped

1418
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 1: because now as being an artist, you know, it goes

1419
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 1: way beyond the music. It's like, oh I like him,

1420
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:31,719
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna support So they felt start to feel

1421
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 1: like they knew Adam in a different way. You know,

1422
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:35,680
Speaker 1: my mom knows him now, so that's how I know

1423
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 1: it's official. Yeah, I bought my wife a car, and

1424
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 1: this guy who's selling me the car was like, oh

1425
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 1: the voice my name is Ruthy Rute. So how does

1426
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 1: that So how does that work in terms of I

1427
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 1: mean in terms of your life, because you know, you're

1428
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 1: part of this you know, huge band, but you also

1429
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 1: just you like, are you able to still go to

1430
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 1: the grocery store and just in peace? Yeah? I think

1431
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 1: that's one of the benefits. I mean, well, now I'm

1432
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 1: you know, I've started to have my own thing because

1433
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 1: of my my records and stuff, and some of the

1434
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 1: stuff is happening. But I think one of the coolest

1435
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 1: parts about like Mickey, you know, the bass player, is

1436
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 1: they've they've they've been equal partners for years, you know,

1437
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 1: like I said, since eighth grade. And he can walk anywhere,

1438
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So have the same life,

1439
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 1: but but but not the not the fame. There's something

1440
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 1: to that that's kind of cool. Me being the only

1441
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 1: black guy. I think James long hair guy and then

1442
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 1: me black guy. They're like, okay, you know what, yeah, yeah,

1443
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 1: but um, I think that's kind of a I knew

1444
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 1: he I know he enjoys that, you know what, I'm saying,

1445
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 1: because he's got that same life. Um, but for me

1446
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 1: it's not as bad. Not unless we go to like

1447
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 1: South America something like what they really know you Asia,

1448
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 1: you know, and they're like, I'm I'm waiting for PJ.

1449
01:26:56,880 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 1: How okay? So how are you able to split? How

1450
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 1: are you guys able to divide h Adam voice time

1451
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:11,600
Speaker 1: with Maroom five studio and recording time and p J

1452
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:16,719
Speaker 1: Morton studio recording, songwriting, producing time. It took me a minute.

1453
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 1: So maybe the first couple of years I just was

1454
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to be in Maron five.

1455
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 1: You know, so how long just how long have you

1456
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 1: been in the band at this point nine years in July. Yeah,

1457
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:30,560
Speaker 1: So so that first I just had to figure it

1458
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 1: out and I wasn't doing anything. So, like I said,

1459
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 1: when they called me, I felt like it was a

1460
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:37,640
Speaker 1: prayer being answered because I was burnt. I was kind

1461
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:39,600
Speaker 1: of burnt out, you know what I'm saying. So I'm like,

1462
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 1: it's cool, I don't need I don't want to focus

1463
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 1: on me for a while. So that first little while

1464
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 1: was just like me just being in the band. And

1465
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 1: then um, but when I started to get back into

1466
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 1: my stuff I signed a young money, like my second

1467
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 1: year being in Maroon five, And that's when I'm gonna

1468
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 1: how are those baby checks? Just that smile right there,

1469
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:08,680
Speaker 1: it tells me you got stories finished that I've never

1470
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 1: seen the baby check. I knew that anyway, but um

1471
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 1: but but so so when I started to get him

1472
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:18,600
Speaker 1: to my artist thing, the voice came right and it

1473
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 1: was kind of a help because then on our calendar,

1474
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 1: I could see like, oh, he's got live shows right here,

1475
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 1: he's taping right here. So it kind of allowed me

1476
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 1: to like do my stuff in these gaps. I mean,

1477
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 1: it made me busier than everybody, but I just used

1478
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 1: those gaps. So I hired us here, high us there.

1479
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 1: We're gonna take three weeks off here. And because like

1480
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 1: before the voice, rehearsals would be called just out of

1481
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:44,800
Speaker 1: the blue, like hey, y'all, let's rehearse that. You know

1482
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But then when the voice came, it

1483
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 1: was like everything started to be structured, structured a little

1484
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 1: bit more because it had to be so I could

1485
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 1: play stuff. Yeah, hey, can you just describe did you

1486
01:28:56,640 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 1: have a relationship at all with Jordan's Yeah? I did. Yeah,

1487
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 1: what was what was he like Jordan's. Um is uh

1488
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 1: Jonah Hill's brother who used to manage five and passed away. Yeah,

1489
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 1: Jordan was so so so Jordan's has been their manager

1490
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 1: since the beginning. Um and they probably could tell this

1491
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 1: story better. But the reason he that what separated him

1492
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:22,560
Speaker 1: because he was a young man. He's probably just a

1493
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:25,920
Speaker 1: year older than them. Um. He bought the whole band

1494
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:27,759
Speaker 1: cell phones. He was like, if you let me manage,

1495
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 1: I buy you all cell phones. And literally until I

1496
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 1: was in the band, until Jordan passed away, we got

1497
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:37,720
Speaker 1: new phones every time a new phone came out. So

1498
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:42,679
Speaker 1: I think that became a tradition man of his management.

1499
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:46,719
Speaker 1: But Jordan's was like a kind of a silent genius.

1500
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 1: He was. Yeah, he when I when I talked to

1501
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:53,720
Speaker 1: him about strategy, When he started to talk to me

1502
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 1: about strategy and how he would roll out things kind

1503
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:59,639
Speaker 1: of blew my mind, you know. But he was very quiet.

1504
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 1: Wasn't the buddy buddy manager, even though he was a

1505
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 1: year older. It was he was like, not buddy buddy.

1506
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:08,960
Speaker 1: It was like business, you know what I'm saying, which

1507
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 1: is kind of you know whatever it was. I had

1508
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 1: to get used to that part and understand who Jordan

1509
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 1: was in that way. Um, but man, he was. He

1510
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:21,400
Speaker 1: was a silent, silent killer man, you know in his planning. Um,

1511
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 1: I saw how his brain worked, Like one time when

1512
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 1: he we were talking about my stuff and he was

1513
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 1: saying how he saw and I was just like, oh,

1514
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 1: that's why you're Jordan's Felstein, Like I get it now,

1515
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 1: like you Yeah, that was a lost man. Time was

1516
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 1: a cool cat MANI. Um, So with where you are

1517
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 1: now in your career and you know, I'm I'm really

1518
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:56,559
Speaker 1: curious on the moves that you make because me also

1519
01:30:56,840 --> 01:31:02,680
Speaker 1: being a multi tasker and different things. Um, should your

1520
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:07,200
Speaker 1: situation elevate? Do you still see it as a way

1521
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:10,639
Speaker 1: where you can do both at the same time or yeah?

1522
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:12,519
Speaker 1: I mean and we kind of had that. So so

1523
01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:14,600
Speaker 1: when I when I signed a Young Money, when that

1524
01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 1: record came out, Um, and what you was that was that? Uh?

1525
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:24,680
Speaker 1: That record came out? Ok, and um, they let me

1526
01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 1: open up a tour, they let me open up. It

1527
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 1: was me opening up with my soul band and then

1528
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:33,439
Speaker 1: Kelly Clarkson and then Maroon and then we went to

1529
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:36,600
Speaker 1: Europe and it was me Robin thinking Maroon. UM and

1530
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:38,519
Speaker 1: Adam told me in the beginning, like, bro, if you

1531
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 1: get as big as us, then we'll just have to

1532
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 1: co headline or something. You know. So the support is

1533
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 1: there now you can't leave, But I don't see a reason,

1534
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 1: Like I don't feel a need to leave, just because

1535
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:56,439
Speaker 1: I think people leave for not being appreciated, right, And

1536
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 1: they showed me like we support you. Like the whole

1537
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 1: joke this time around at the Grammys was Pj's up

1538
01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:04,040
Speaker 1: for three Grammys Maroons up for one? You know what

1539
01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:05,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying, But that was a joke in the chat,

1540
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 1: like at least, at least PJ can win a Grammy

1541
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 1: around here, you know, yeah, they won three early on.

1542
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 1: You know, Grammys really liked songs about Jane that error, right, yeah,

1543
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 1: but once yeah, I mean the best New Artists. They

1544
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 1: beat Kanye for Best New Artists. But like so early on,

1545
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:28,640
Speaker 1: But I think the support is there, and if the

1546
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 1: schedule remains like because to be honest, we've we've started

1547
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 1: to tour less um for the same amount, you know

1548
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like have the same impact. Yeah, you

1549
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:43,479
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I toured more than Maroon

1550
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 1: did last year, you know what I'm saying. I went

1551
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 1: all around the world and Maroon we did like two

1552
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 1: US runs last year, so it's allowed me to to

1553
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:55,800
Speaker 1: to get my space. So um, there definitely have been

1554
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:58,600
Speaker 1: a couple of conflicts in the past. I had to

1555
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 1: pass up some big things that I thought But in

1556
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 1: the grand scheme of things, it's just it hasn't seemed

1557
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 1: worked it to me yet to like have to leave

1558
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 1: I'm cool, you know, yeah, I like I like both.

1559
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 1: Just to rewind a little bit, can we talk a

1560
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:14,600
Speaker 1: little bit about the Was there an adjustment period for

1561
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 1: you when you joined the band, because like, you're coming

1562
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 1: into a unit that's been Yeah, like that's already formed,

1563
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 1: you know, it's been together forever. Now there was there

1564
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:24,679
Speaker 1: was what was cool. That's why I kind of liked

1565
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:28,280
Speaker 1: when the voice happened and moves like Jagger happened, because

1566
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 1: up until then, like the two the first two years,

1567
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 1: I felt like the outsider and a little you know, everything,

1568
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 1: because they had done all of this stuff. I'm hype.

1569
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh shoot, at first, my first blah blah blah.

1570
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 1: But then after that, yeah, they're like, yeah, cool you

1571
01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 1: it's so cute. PJ. You like you like that? Yeah,

1572
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:52,680
Speaker 1: it's like I look at pj enjoined but um, but

1573
01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:56,720
Speaker 1: after Jagger and the voice, it was new to everybody,

1574
01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:59,599
Speaker 1: like everything was new. Was like, oh dang five number

1575
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:03,280
Speaker 1: one they had had, um, you know, like how they

1576
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:06,439
Speaker 1: see number one's a lot, you know, was used to that,

1577
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 1: but like a hot one hundred, you know, like real

1578
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:14,800
Speaker 1: number one. Um, it's a whole different thing. And we

1579
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 1: started to see. So then we became closer because we

1580
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:20,920
Speaker 1: were experiencing all this stuff all together, you know what

1581
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:24,519
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Um, But musically, because I was, I was

1582
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 1: curious in that way with Bill asked, I'm like, musically,

1583
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 1: did you always feel comfortable giving your full stuff where

1584
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:30,160
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, I'm at a job. I know what

1585
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:31,800
Speaker 1: they expected me. I'm not going to give them all

1586
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:34,680
Speaker 1: this church That's now. I wasn't. I was. I was

1587
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 1: coming off of your question. That's that's what I was

1588
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:39,880
Speaker 1: just starting with your I was expanding. But was there

1589
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:41,479
Speaker 1: a period for that too, like when you felt like

1590
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:43,800
Speaker 1: all right or did you always just feel like this

1591
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:45,080
Speaker 1: is me and I'm gonna just be me and I

1592
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:49,040
Speaker 1: think with anything? And my my take was always what

1593
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:51,640
Speaker 1: what what do I bring to the table? You know

1594
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:54,560
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't a selfish thing of like I

1595
01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 1: want to I want to make sure I put PJ

1596
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 1: in there somewhere. No, I was just wondering because of

1597
01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:01,719
Speaker 1: your background and might be different than their especially musically

1598
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:03,920
Speaker 1: because of that church background. Like when that came into

1599
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:05,720
Speaker 1: a fact, I think what I started to what I

1600
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 1: started to realize what it was. There was like less

1601
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 1: different about us, Like they listened to whatever rock music

1602
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 1: that was going, right, But then I didn't. I hadn't

1603
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:18,800
Speaker 1: listened to a lot of that stuff. I mean I

1604
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 1: was a big Beatles guy, big James Taylor guy, So

1605
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 1: I had listened to a lot of music. But um,

1606
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:28,360
Speaker 1: what I realized was that That's what I'm saying. That

1607
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:31,479
Speaker 1: first audition, I was like, Oh, we're kind of the same,

1608
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:34,519
Speaker 1: Like we could they could play, like Adam could play.

1609
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:37,560
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Those guys can play. So

1610
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 1: I I just felt like, oh, it's just musicians. Kind

1611
01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 1: of gotta say I didn't know that he was a shredder. Yeah,

1612
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:46,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying all that was new to me once. I

1613
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 1: was a fan of this love and all of that stuff. Right,

1614
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 1: I watched TRL when you know what I'm saying I

1615
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 1: was a fan and still and I knew the music

1616
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:58,599
Speaker 1: was cool, like those diminished chords. But I'm like, okay,

1617
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:01,600
Speaker 1: but this is a record, you know. But when I

1618
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:04,640
Speaker 1: got in that room, I'm like, oh, this is like

1619
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:06,560
Speaker 1: what I'm used to. This is like the Homies. We

1620
01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:09,479
Speaker 1: can all play, so, you know, And so there wasn't

1621
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:11,960
Speaker 1: a big adjustment. They had to be three for me there,

1622
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I was doing what I

1623
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:17,280
Speaker 1: do and I related to that stuff. Um, I think

1624
01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 1: with Maroon because so they were a punk rock band

1625
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:24,320
Speaker 1: initially called Cares Flowers and then they added another member,

1626
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 1: became five and after they had listened to Stevie Wonder

1627
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 1: and kind of said, Okay, I'm gonna mix all of

1628
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:33,320
Speaker 1: this stuff, and you know their version of mixing it

1629
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:37,080
Speaker 1: Timberland and Missy Stevie and all this rock stuff that

1630
01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:39,840
Speaker 1: we grew up with. Right, So when I hear Maroon,

1631
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:42,679
Speaker 1: I hear the more of the soul stuff the side

1632
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 1: that side, And they probably hear a different way, but

1633
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 1: for me it was like it translated to me, you know,

1634
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:53,479
Speaker 1: it was meant to be. So how how are songs written?

1635
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 1: Is it jam sessions? Is the sound check is it? Yeah,

1636
01:36:57,439 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 1: that that was before I got they're really like the

1637
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 1: jam sessions, the together thing. Uh, it became a little

1638
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:10,679
Speaker 1: more of a machine businessman. Yeah, um post post jack.

1639
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just saying, like a joint, like girl

1640
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 1: like you whatever, Like is it like you all jamming

1641
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 1: one day and say hey, let's do that or was

1642
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:20,479
Speaker 1: it like a song that someone written. Yeah, that came in.

1643
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:23,840
Speaker 1: That came in from a songwriter and we we kind

1644
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 1: of just put our things on it and Adam usually

1645
01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 1: with those people, what about like wait, the new the weight,

1646
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 1: like the jam? Wait, how did that? Man? Yeah? I

1647
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:40,479
Speaker 1: love way to Yeah that's the only joint I could

1648
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 1: do this too. Yeah yeah, yeah, exactly right. So okay,

1649
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go there all right, Yeah, let's let's get it.

1650
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 1: Come on, I'm ready started. Well, I didn't know what

1651
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:57,880
Speaker 1: angle you was going for, but I was just gonna

1652
01:37:57,880 --> 01:37:59,640
Speaker 1: say that I would like to have seen you more

1653
01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:01,240
Speaker 1: on that's both stage. I told him that when I

1654
01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 1: saw him in person, I was like, you were the

1655
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:04,840
Speaker 1: only black man they didn't really show too much of

1656
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 1: But that's that's not what your point was. I knew.

1657
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:09,599
Speaker 1: So wherever you was gonna go with your super Bowl

1658
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 1: you know, soun like his or because for me, I

1659
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:16,800
Speaker 1: was like, PJ is going to be on the Super

1660
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 1: Bowl half time show. I ain't supposed to be watching

1661
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:19,920
Speaker 1: this ship, but PJ is doing it, so I'm gonna

1662
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 1: watch it. Right. So that's when I was like, well wait, wait, yeah,

1663
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 1: oh wait is that an orange hat? Wait? How how nervous?

1664
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:30,280
Speaker 1: I mean I'm certain that you know, it's it's hard

1665
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 1: to you know, too ignore you know, whatever social media dictates.

1666
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:44,120
Speaker 1: But how nervous where you guys are worried about rocking

1667
01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:50,000
Speaker 1: the boat with the unpopular decision of doing the halftime show. Um,

1668
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:55,640
Speaker 1: there were a bunch of phases of it, right, like

1669
01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:59,800
Speaker 1: my initial I remember when, and these were hardly my decisions, right,

1670
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:03,880
Speaker 1: I'm I was, I was gonna be rocking. I was

1671
01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:05,720
Speaker 1: gonna be back there playing my keyboard, you know what.

1672
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:10,799
Speaker 1: But but but um, there were phases like I remember

1673
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:13,840
Speaker 1: the initial when Adam told me pace time me and say, bro,

1674
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 1: we got the super Bowl. I was like, I've been

1675
01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:19,760
Speaker 1: on the Super Bowl. Everyone's dream, you know what I'm saying.

1676
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:23,240
Speaker 1: So that was my initial thing. Then I say, ah, damn,

1677
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 1: it wasn't this season. Between those two thoughts. How much

1678
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:30,880
Speaker 1: time in between? Um no, that was probably like the

1679
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:33,560
Speaker 1: next day when I was like, oh shoot, but that

1680
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:37,880
Speaker 1: and then um so then there was the phase of like, man,

1681
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:39,479
Speaker 1: I don't think we don't think we should do it,

1682
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:42,799
Speaker 1: you know, once the soft announcement came, the leak whatever

1683
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:45,599
Speaker 1: that was. Once that came and I saw him like, man,

1684
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:47,759
Speaker 1: it's not worth it. We we got a great career,

1685
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:51,920
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. So we went there. Then the petition came.

1686
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:55,160
Speaker 1: There was a petition. There was a petition for us

1687
01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:57,280
Speaker 1: not to play. Oh wait, not even the artists and

1688
01:39:57,400 --> 01:40:01,960
Speaker 1: they won't play. Just I got the thoughts on the

1689
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:04,920
Speaker 1: artists saying they wouldn't play. I don't know, yes, I

1690
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:12,720
Speaker 1: don't know that. As many artists were presented the opportunity.

1691
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 1: It's easy, course you would say no if you're not right.

1692
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:19,840
Speaker 1: It's easy to boycott fucking Gucy when you can't afford it.

1693
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 1: So so I can't really speak on that part. But

1694
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:25,760
Speaker 1: there was a petition for us not to play. And

1695
01:40:25,960 --> 01:40:28,640
Speaker 1: then that's when I turned right, because this is me,

1696
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:34,200
Speaker 1: so I'm a cap supporter, right. I didn't watch football

1697
01:40:34,240 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 1: all season when my Saints was bawling out on everybody.

1698
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:45,160
Speaker 1: And I love, Yes, I hate the refs. I don't

1699
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:48,400
Speaker 1: hate l A. I'm like, look l A like so

1700
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:51,200
Speaker 1: Maroon and all of them l A. They were they

1701
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:53,360
Speaker 1: were apologizing to me. I felt bad for them because

1702
01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:54,920
Speaker 1: they were in the position like what are you gonna do?

1703
01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:59,840
Speaker 1: Overturn that? Give them the ball? Yeah we did, but

1704
01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:06,040
Speaker 1: so I didn't watch. Yeah, that's what James would say.

1705
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:10,559
Speaker 1: I'm still um so so so when the petition came,

1706
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, so, I'm boycotting football, right, like for cap um. First,

1707
01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 1: CAP isn't telling me anything. I'm not hearing anything from CAP,

1708
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:24,840
Speaker 1: like as leadership, right, and I'm looking. So when Eric

1709
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:28,439
Speaker 1: read get signed to the to the Panthers, I'm like,

1710
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:31,800
Speaker 1: all right, what are we doing? Are we happy about this?

1711
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:35,120
Speaker 1: Eric Reid was the guy who kneeled next to him

1712
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 1: and also and also got black balled, right, but what

1713
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:45,120
Speaker 1: was was a superstar right and needed to be playing

1714
01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:48,759
Speaker 1: football signed to the Panthers. And so then I started

1715
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:52,760
Speaker 1: getting confused on the cherry picking of Okay, so he

1716
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 1: can work, he can play for the NFL and support CAP,

1717
01:41:56,960 --> 01:42:00,800
Speaker 1: but I can't. But I can't play one game and

1718
01:42:00,920 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 1: support CAP and also also we're we're boycott is so

1719
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:11,160
Speaker 1: Cap can play for this corporation that you don't want

1720
01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:13,280
Speaker 1: me to play for. Y'all need to find a god

1721
01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 1: damn agenda. So what I'm saying, right, So like certain things,

1722
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 1: you know, I mean social media, it was just like

1723
01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:23,960
Speaker 1: a lot of cherry picking, right, So, like you know,

1724
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:26,880
Speaker 1: people saying they're not playing the super Bowl, but then

1725
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:30,280
Speaker 1: they play super Bowl parties but they do super Bowl

1726
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:34,320
Speaker 1: commercials or like, so I'm like, okay, and then even

1727
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:38,800
Speaker 1: even Jay asking Travis not to perform, but then Chloe

1728
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:44,320
Speaker 1: and Halley perform and it's in the whale House, so

1729
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:48,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, beautiful. They did great. By the way, they

1730
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:52,000
Speaker 1: really did. What I'm just saying was trying to get

1731
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:53,200
Speaker 1: you out to place so we could get read it

1732
01:42:53,320 --> 01:43:00,280
Speaker 1: or on the bill or something. You know that she's

1733
01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:04,439
Speaker 1: still signed the Rock Nation. Didn't she think she got

1734
01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 1: out of it? Well, I still have no idea. But anyway,

1735
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:10,519
Speaker 1: so that's when that's when I started to feel like, Hey,

1736
01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 1: I love everybody, but like also forget everybody, you know

1737
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:18,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because ultimately, and this is what I

1738
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:21,200
Speaker 1: felt like, because I think it's about disruption, right, what

1739
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:24,760
Speaker 1: would actually disrupt. It's not me not playing the super Bowl,

1740
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 1: because if we say no, then somebody else is gonna

1741
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:30,840
Speaker 1: come and play, and it's gonna like even even the like,

1742
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:34,760
Speaker 1: the closest thing I can um like compared to was

1743
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:40,479
Speaker 1: that Trump inauguration thing, right, and we don't really yeah

1744
01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:43,960
Speaker 1: exactly what Crossette and you know, but but but she

1745
01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:48,960
Speaker 1: fucked she is. But my point is you don't remember

1746
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:53,639
Speaker 1: who turned it down. They're they're not remembered, right. It's

1747
01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:56,280
Speaker 1: to please a certain group of people, which I didn't agree.

1748
01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:58,599
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have. I wouldn't have I wouldn't have played

1749
01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:02,360
Speaker 1: the Trump inauguration. But what I'm saying is you don't

1750
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:06,360
Speaker 1: remember those people, So why not just have that platform

1751
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:08,160
Speaker 1: and be able to speak as loud as I can

1752
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 1: to Yes, that particular aforementioned person wants to come on

1753
01:44:15,320 --> 01:44:26,479
Speaker 1: qors conversation. We've got some good conversations. Yeah, but wait,

1754
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:28,760
Speaker 1: so let me ask you this then, because we know

1755
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:31,080
Speaker 1: that we didn't get the press conference that we usually

1756
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:33,599
Speaker 1: get because whatever, we don't want to be asked the questions.

1757
01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:35,720
Speaker 1: And we know that in that press release it was

1758
01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:38,080
Speaker 1: like marooting five is gonna give you. We're gonna show

1759
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:39,519
Speaker 1: you what we're gonna do in our performance. So my

1760
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:42,479
Speaker 1: question was, as watching that performance, is is that gospel

1761
01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:44,360
Speaker 1: in that Travis? Is that what y'all showing me? That

1762
01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:46,439
Speaker 1: is that how you feel? Is the gospel and the

1763
01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:48,920
Speaker 1: Travis Scott like the we gave y'all how we feel.

1764
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:51,679
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I didn't see that interview or whatever.

1765
01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:54,280
Speaker 1: It was a press release instead of them actually and

1766
01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:56,559
Speaker 1: Steady all actually doing the press conference, which both half

1767
01:44:56,640 --> 01:45:01,280
Speaker 1: times that yeah, and the last the first time a

1768
01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:04,240
Speaker 1: press conference. But so they sent out and they sent

1769
01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:07,360
Speaker 1: out a press release and basically it read inflammation that

1770
01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:10,840
Speaker 1: we're going to show you through our performance how we feel. Well.

1771
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:15,639
Speaker 1: I think I think the group's um position was we're

1772
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:18,760
Speaker 1: just gonna play music, you know, like we can't get

1773
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:21,519
Speaker 1: caught up. And also I think that is just to

1774
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:23,960
Speaker 1: to feel woke, you know what I'm saying, but not

1775
01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:29,960
Speaker 1: actually be it's performing performing I'm doing I'm doing that. Well, No,

1776
01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:31,840
Speaker 1: I think that's what he wanted to do. I think

1777
01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 1: that's just what he wanted to do as a performance. Um,

1778
01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:36,960
Speaker 1: I don't think that was a statement or anything, because

1779
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:38,559
Speaker 1: you know, we would think it would be a statement

1780
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:40,200
Speaker 1: if you didn't make a statement. He said the statement

1781
01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:41,720
Speaker 1: was gonna be on stage. So I'm looking at the

1782
01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:47,280
Speaker 1: stage like choir and I barely see p J. That's

1783
01:45:47,320 --> 01:45:49,120
Speaker 1: all right, that's a statement. I think that was a

1784
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:56,559
Speaker 1: director cameraman thing, not like, yeah, I feel you. I listen. Yeah,

1785
01:45:56,640 --> 01:45:58,920
Speaker 1: I got a cut a cut of rehearsal that I saw.

1786
01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:01,800
Speaker 1: I was. I was on a little bit more so

1787
01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:04,280
Speaker 1: I was surprised when I looked back, I was like, oh, word,

1788
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 1: like it's something my hat had listen I played the

1789
01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:16,040
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. You didn't admit that the NFL is worse

1790
01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:18,080
Speaker 1: than crack because niggas just can't be quitted no matter

1791
01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:23,639
Speaker 1: what to dune. Because that's how I feel my well,

1792
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:27,240
Speaker 1: for me, it's I think, I think the NFL is

1793
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 1: something that it's gonna be. It's gonna be interesting to

1794
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:32,160
Speaker 1: see how it develops over the next ten fifteen years,

1795
01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:34,880
Speaker 1: because what's happening is you're not seeing a lot of

1796
01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:38,000
Speaker 1: kids playing football no more like even like with my keys,

1797
01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:43,080
Speaker 1: I kind of helped my son basketball and baseball. That's it,

1798
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:48,240
Speaker 1: and really more even more so basketball because baseball, I mean,

1799
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:50,840
Speaker 1: basketball is like social so it's like, you know, they

1800
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:52,720
Speaker 1: want to. You know, they can put their ship up

1801
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:55,720
Speaker 1: on I G or whatever. Like my sons they love basketball,

1802
01:46:56,040 --> 01:46:59,840
Speaker 1: but football, like that's like some kind of like barbaric ship.

1803
01:47:00,479 --> 01:47:02,240
Speaker 1: But it would be fun. I mean not for nothing.

1804
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:03,960
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying, like it might die because

1805
01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:05,880
Speaker 1: it's barbaric, but not because they're just treating niggas like

1806
01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:07,960
Speaker 1: we don't give a fun. No. No, I think this

1807
01:47:08,720 --> 01:47:10,280
Speaker 1: is gonna have to die out a little bit. I

1808
01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:12,080
Speaker 1: think I don't think. I think it's less about that.

1809
01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:14,479
Speaker 1: To be honest, I know it is. Yeah, it's less

1810
01:47:14,479 --> 01:47:18,680
Speaker 1: about what I'm saying. I know it is because how

1811
01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:20,519
Speaker 1: many times they have to tell you you don't matter

1812
01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:22,479
Speaker 1: to me, Like I don't know, They're do it in

1813
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:24,479
Speaker 1: so many different ways. You can't even own a team, nigga,

1814
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:28,880
Speaker 1: you don't match. I mean, at least they fake about them.

1815
01:47:32,439 --> 01:47:34,720
Speaker 1: I mean I want did I'm gonna say more for

1816
01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 1: that than the NBA had the same situation with old

1817
01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:44,680
Speaker 1: boy from Sacramento the coach or the owner. Right. I

1818
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:48,200
Speaker 1: think the NBA does They do a good job as

1819
01:47:48,280 --> 01:47:51,320
Speaker 1: far as even just dealing with them in the office.

1820
01:47:51,479 --> 01:47:54,519
Speaker 1: Even Chris Paul and like the people who like it's

1821
01:47:54,520 --> 01:47:56,840
Speaker 1: a different maundset. My thing is just like when I

1822
01:47:56,920 --> 01:47:58,840
Speaker 1: see niggas get on that ship, I'm just like, look, man,

1823
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:01,720
Speaker 1: you motherfucker's, live your life and let me live. Mind like,

1824
01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:04,720
Speaker 1: don't speak for other motherfucker's because you don't know what

1825
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:07,200
Speaker 1: they're putting up. So you're asking p J. Morton and

1826
01:48:07,320 --> 01:48:10,040
Speaker 1: Moon five don't play the super Bowl. You don't know

1827
01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:12,680
Speaker 1: what this band is doing with his super Bowl check.

1828
01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:14,760
Speaker 1: You don't know how many other people you're supporting. You

1829
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:17,680
Speaker 1: don't know what the gonna have a revolution with that

1830
01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:25,559
Speaker 1: way of thought, are just any time in your bank account.

1831
01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:31,360
Speaker 1: My thing is petition all the players, petition all the

1832
01:48:31,439 --> 01:48:34,760
Speaker 1: players to not play, and then we don't have we

1833
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:36,960
Speaker 1: don't have a super Bowl. Right. But again he goes

1834
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:38,800
Speaker 1: back to my point of NFL is worse than crack.

1835
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:40,439
Speaker 1: It's an addiction, and who's going to do with that.

1836
01:48:40,640 --> 01:48:43,040
Speaker 1: It's not those guys. Those guys are doing a job

1837
01:48:43,280 --> 01:48:47,679
Speaker 1: and they get paid in the in the higher three,

1838
01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:49,760
Speaker 1: they get paid the least. So it is that too.

1839
01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:51,880
Speaker 1: It's like the injuries to pay and what the NFL

1840
01:48:52,040 --> 01:48:55,320
Speaker 1: versus the in the MLB and the fucking NBA. It's

1841
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:57,439
Speaker 1: just totally different game. The money game is different. No

1842
01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:00,400
Speaker 1: it is yeah, no, no no. And the treat the

1843
01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:02,880
Speaker 1: treatment is different. I mean, NBA, if you get hurt,

1844
01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:04,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna sit on that bench and still collect your check.

1845
01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:08,240
Speaker 1: I get that part. But sometimes that's when I heard

1846
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:10,719
Speaker 1: somebody talk about it, and they talk about the injuries,

1847
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:14,479
Speaker 1: even I think, uh my boy from Oakland, Um, But

1848
01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:16,560
Speaker 1: but when he was like, but if this is my

1849
01:49:16,720 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 1: shot to take care of my family and do all

1850
01:49:19,160 --> 01:49:21,960
Speaker 1: of this, let me let me do that. How do

1851
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:24,080
Speaker 1: you fight that? How you can't? I tell you how

1852
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:26,479
Speaker 1: you do it? You blame a round five and say

1853
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:28,720
Speaker 1: y'all shouldn't play that halftime. So you know what I'm saying,

1854
01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:31,880
Speaker 1: because because then, because because because you don't have you

1855
01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:33,960
Speaker 1: don't have it in you to be like, don't play football,

1856
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:35,920
Speaker 1: don't do your job, don't feed your kids. So hey,

1857
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:39,000
Speaker 1: big band that's playing the halftime show for twelve minutes,

1858
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:42,400
Speaker 1: y'all be the ones to disrupt this old thing and

1859
01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:46,000
Speaker 1: and boycott nevertis just paying all this money to put

1860
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:48,200
Speaker 1: it out on the show. We're not going to boycott you.

1861
01:49:48,280 --> 01:49:59,439
Speaker 1: But talking about PEPSI yeah, you're I don't care what

1862
01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:01,360
Speaker 1: we do is it. I don't care if t Linty

1863
01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:06,200
Speaker 1: owned slaves. Now we are not boycott. I don't know.

1864
01:50:06,280 --> 01:50:09,840
Speaker 1: It's like it's like Specier ship and the clear thing

1865
01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:17,240
Speaker 1: with the brown top. Yeah that's what it was called neither.

1866
01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:25,240
Speaker 1: I never knew how pronouncing the fancy with Yeah, that's something.

1867
01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:35,880
Speaker 1: But I pray they don't do nothing wrong. Yeah, no,

1868
01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:37,880
Speaker 1: it's listen. I guess my thing is just like, look,

1869
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:41,320
Speaker 1: we live in America. This America was founded by racist

1870
01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:43,920
Speaker 1: white people that felt like you niggas ain't ship worked

1871
01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:46,680
Speaker 1: for us. So anything you do, any industry you work in,

1872
01:50:46,760 --> 01:50:49,680
Speaker 1: whatever you do, it goes back to the original sin

1873
01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:54,240
Speaker 1: so asked niggas the boycotting look nigga like. But that's

1874
01:50:54,240 --> 01:50:57,760
Speaker 1: the thing. I was in a weird position because I

1875
01:50:58,040 --> 01:51:01,160
Speaker 1: was boycotting and still didn't know what to do. I

1876
01:51:01,200 --> 01:51:04,479
Speaker 1: didn't still did Colin didn't call you, He still didn't say, like, listen,

1877
01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:07,880
Speaker 1: when Eric read signed to the Panthers, I'm like, it's

1878
01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:10,120
Speaker 1: kind of over. I'm like, what do we what are

1879
01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:15,599
Speaker 1: we doing? Apparently every time it comes out that they

1880
01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:18,080
Speaker 1: say he doesn't really want to play, I see people

1881
01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:20,719
Speaker 1: come out. My buddy Shaun King saying that is not true.

1882
01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:24,280
Speaker 1: He wants to play. He's working out every day. So

1883
01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:28,120
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I'm kind of confused, you

1884
01:51:28,160 --> 01:51:30,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like genuinely, as a supporter of

1885
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:33,680
Speaker 1: the movement, I didn't know where to go, and I'm like,

1886
01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:39,080
Speaker 1: what are we doing? Like so rees playing, we congratulate that.

1887
01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:41,280
Speaker 1: I saw people congratulate him from making a stand and

1888
01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:46,479
Speaker 1: coming and coming back and he still kneels every game. Yeah,

1889
01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:50,200
Speaker 1: I'm just no disruption really yeah, you know, I mean

1890
01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:52,920
Speaker 1: cap Is is the face of the movement and you

1891
01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:55,640
Speaker 1: know so, but people aren't gonna be happy until the

1892
01:51:55,720 --> 01:51:57,479
Speaker 1: face has got a job. I know. But what I'm

1893
01:51:57,520 --> 01:51:59,519
Speaker 1: saying is cap tell me what to do after air

1894
01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:03,559
Speaker 1: Reed get signed, like he didn't need to say or somebody.

1895
01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:06,920
Speaker 1: There's no there's a lack of leadership there. And I'm

1896
01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:09,240
Speaker 1: saying that as a supporter like that was That's why

1897
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:11,240
Speaker 1: I got offended because I'm like, oh, you're petitioning me.

1898
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:13,920
Speaker 1: I bet you've been watching football every week. I've been

1899
01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:16,720
Speaker 1: sacrificing not watching football, and you want to petition me,

1900
01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:19,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it was it was

1901
01:52:20,120 --> 01:52:21,920
Speaker 1: let's not forget it ain't all about him neither, because

1902
01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:23,720
Speaker 1: it was all about what he was really nailing forward

1903
01:52:23,760 --> 01:52:27,559
Speaker 1: to what you got past that? Right, So what I'm saying,

1904
01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:29,960
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is I could. I could do

1905
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:34,280
Speaker 1: my job and be against police brutality and be against

1906
01:52:34,680 --> 01:52:37,720
Speaker 1: and before peacefully protesting. I can support. I can do

1907
01:52:37,840 --> 01:52:41,360
Speaker 1: both of those contain multitudes, niggers. I can do all

1908
01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:47,519
Speaker 1: that ship at the same damn time. Yet if everybody

1909
01:52:47,600 --> 01:52:53,240
Speaker 1: just logged off social media, it's that I'm waiting, Yeah,

1910
01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:57,280
Speaker 1: we damn can we can we have a chance? Can

1911
01:52:57,360 --> 01:52:59,120
Speaker 1: I do this? No, you can't do it. You can't

1912
01:52:59,120 --> 01:53:01,120
Speaker 1: do it. You got you too addicted. You are too addicted.

1913
01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:13,439
Speaker 1: Excuse me, challenge accepted. What we're really saying, what we're saying,

1914
01:53:13,520 --> 01:53:15,599
Speaker 1: I'm saying your stories be like Michael X the movie

1915
01:53:16,080 --> 01:53:20,760
Speaker 1: saying the babies. So what we're saying is that you're

1916
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:23,240
Speaker 1: going you're gonna know how important Rodney Allen Rippy was

1917
01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:27,280
Speaker 1: not that. This is what you're saying is you're not

1918
01:53:27,320 --> 01:53:29,240
Speaker 1: going to be on social media till this episode air's

1919
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying. I don't think he can

1920
01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:35,160
Speaker 1: afford to do that. So I waited at the break

1921
01:53:35,200 --> 01:53:37,000
Speaker 1: while I canna be working on an album. I did

1922
01:53:37,080 --> 01:53:38,840
Speaker 1: like a month and all of that. When it is

1923
01:53:38,920 --> 01:53:40,880
Speaker 1: time to I guess you get you can get your

1924
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:43,519
Speaker 1: people to It doesn't feel the same though, I'll tell

1925
01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:49,200
Speaker 1: you this much. I only do it really a majority

1926
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:54,320
Speaker 1: of my interaction. It's during the show when I'm bored

1927
01:53:55,439 --> 01:54:03,000
Speaker 1: my computers. Partly, what's a part of the problem with

1928
01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:05,680
Speaker 1: social media is just having access to people's thoughts all

1929
01:54:05,760 --> 01:54:10,400
Speaker 1: the time in your pocket and just be digging in

1930
01:54:10,479 --> 01:54:13,200
Speaker 1: your pocket all time, just reading some random motherfucker thinks

1931
01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:15,800
Speaker 1: any time of the day. That's not healthy. You don't

1932
01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:18,320
Speaker 1: need that ship in your life. You don't like there's

1933
01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:21,200
Speaker 1: like a psychological I think like some scientists like broke

1934
01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:23,600
Speaker 1: this paper is like basically like we only have the capacity.

1935
01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:26,439
Speaker 1: I think it's something around like it's like thirty to

1936
01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:29,960
Speaker 1: fifty people. That's like the most that your brain can handle.

1937
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:31,720
Speaker 1: It's not even that, it's just mostly people are just

1938
01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:34,200
Speaker 1: full of ship. Can you give them a platform where

1939
01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:36,879
Speaker 1: they can say whatever? The option to freeze our accounts.

1940
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:41,320
Speaker 1: You can deactivate, man, don't you You could just be

1941
01:54:41,480 --> 01:54:43,800
Speaker 1: off just don't race it off your phone and like

1942
01:54:44,760 --> 01:54:47,160
Speaker 1: a freeze option. No, you don't. You don't. You don't

1943
01:54:47,160 --> 01:54:49,960
Speaker 1: have to do it. Doesn't like whet a social diet,

1944
01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:52,040
Speaker 1: that's what you do. Just delete the app from your

1945
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:54,960
Speaker 1: phone and don't log on your on your computer. But

1946
01:54:55,000 --> 01:54:59,840
Speaker 1: then who's going to I wanted this to be a

1947
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:02,600
Speaker 1: want this to be a QLs challenge. Dude, it's not

1948
01:55:02,720 --> 01:55:07,800
Speaker 1: gonna happen. You do it for a month, wen, I'm

1949
01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:10,160
Speaker 1: like two months deep already, so I don't have any

1950
01:55:10,200 --> 01:55:13,280
Speaker 1: friends in the I can do it usually usually when

1951
01:55:13,280 --> 01:55:16,280
Speaker 1: I get in trouble. Usually when I get in trouble,

1952
01:55:17,120 --> 01:55:20,000
Speaker 1: I can freeze. You can tell when a mirrors in trouble.

1953
01:55:21,000 --> 01:55:22,600
Speaker 1: Usually you don't see a post from me from like

1954
01:55:22,640 --> 01:55:29,680
Speaker 1: a week and two. I gotta So I don't think

1955
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:31,560
Speaker 1: I take a quit Twitter. I don't think he could.

1956
01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:34,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I listen, I want to quit all this ship,

1957
01:55:35,240 --> 01:55:37,680
Speaker 1: but I gotta. I got out to sale. So like

1958
01:55:39,160 --> 01:55:41,600
Speaker 1: ship loll off, you ain't got to interact with them.

1959
01:55:41,640 --> 01:55:44,560
Speaker 1: But I don't interact as much as I used to

1960
01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:48,000
Speaker 1: for the very reason that you visit like we've all

1961
01:55:48,040 --> 01:55:55,560
Speaker 1: slowed down significantly. Yeah, pick up stick. Wait wait, this

1962
01:55:55,720 --> 01:55:57,760
Speaker 1: leads back to the very beginning of the show. I

1963
01:55:57,840 --> 01:56:01,240
Speaker 1: saw something very weird on the Sugar Network yesterday. I

1964
01:56:01,320 --> 01:56:04,920
Speaker 1: was singing Barry Manolo again. No, I'm just saying that

1965
01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:09,120
Speaker 1: it was knowing no this one time, not even yesterday,

1966
01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:21,960
Speaker 1: but back in February. Great, great word right, one of

1967
01:56:22,040 --> 01:56:25,320
Speaker 1: the Sugar Network dude was out. I swear to It

1968
01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:27,880
Speaker 1: was cold as hell, it was icy, it was cold,

1969
01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:33,600
Speaker 1: it was like sleep outside, and like he opted to

1970
01:56:33,720 --> 01:56:37,280
Speaker 1: do his his own network under your network or whatever

1971
01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:41,640
Speaker 1: it was. Wait, you're really in the network, yeah, Robbie

1972
01:56:42,400 --> 01:56:45,800
Speaker 1: let Yeah, I don't know if that's what you're talking about,

1973
01:56:45,800 --> 01:56:51,560
Speaker 1: But can he just continue to tell that woman, I

1974
01:56:51,640 --> 01:57:00,840
Speaker 1: didn't even know that you knew who come twice? No,

1975
01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:06,680
Speaker 1: that's I realized that when he'd rather stand outside like

1976
01:57:06,840 --> 01:57:11,680
Speaker 1: twenty degree freezing weather instead of staying inside the warm

1977
01:57:11,880 --> 01:57:16,440
Speaker 1: where you know Shakeenheimer. You m yeah, Like that's what

1978
01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:19,320
Speaker 1: I knew that this is bad. People on the Sugar

1979
01:57:19,400 --> 01:57:22,040
Speaker 1: Network will walk to the ends of the frozen earth

1980
01:57:22,160 --> 01:57:27,640
Speaker 1: for Sugar Steve. That's what I love it. Man. Okay,

1981
01:57:27,720 --> 01:57:31,120
Speaker 1: My closest question, what do you what do you what

1982
01:57:31,240 --> 01:57:35,880
Speaker 1: do your future players wait before anything? Yeah? What was

1983
01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:39,200
Speaker 1: it like we're doing with your hero Stevie wonder Man.

1984
01:57:39,880 --> 01:57:42,240
Speaker 1: Um So, like I said, I worked with him on

1985
01:57:42,280 --> 01:57:45,080
Speaker 1: the Young Money album, but that was kind of like

1986
01:57:45,680 --> 01:57:50,440
Speaker 1: so much money question to ask you, So just young

1987
01:57:50,560 --> 01:57:54,400
Speaker 1: Money wasn't as random as it. Young money not cash money.

1988
01:57:56,800 --> 01:57:59,960
Speaker 1: It's the same thing. Yeah, all my everything. You still

1989
01:58:00,360 --> 01:58:07,880
Speaker 1: had any issues east So mcmahin the president was we

1990
01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:10,960
Speaker 1: went to high school together, the president of Young Money

1991
01:58:11,600 --> 01:58:15,920
Speaker 1: that yeah, um and was all throughout that whole Drake Nikki,

1992
01:58:17,560 --> 01:58:21,040
Speaker 1: but we went to high school together and so he

1993
01:58:21,280 --> 01:58:23,800
Speaker 1: was like a fan of mine. And when Wayne was

1994
01:58:23,920 --> 01:58:25,880
Speaker 1: locked up, when we started to talk about it and

1995
01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:28,880
Speaker 1: you just got out. But I think they were in

1996
01:58:29,000 --> 01:58:32,520
Speaker 1: a way kind of trying to open it up, you

1997
01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:35,280
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and make it your prestige exactly.

1998
01:58:35,680 --> 01:58:38,360
Speaker 1: You know, they were trying to diversify, and um so

1999
01:58:38,560 --> 01:58:41,120
Speaker 1: I was in an effort to do that. Um and

2000
01:58:41,200 --> 01:58:44,520
Speaker 1: I managed to release an album in a year, and

2001
01:58:45,120 --> 01:58:49,080
Speaker 1: you gotta add out for mcmaintie. For a lot of people,

2002
01:58:50,320 --> 01:58:56,200
Speaker 1: weren't the last two albums on yeah yeah. Um, anyways,

2003
01:58:56,840 --> 01:58:58,640
Speaker 1: I don't remember why I went back to Young Money.

2004
01:58:58,840 --> 01:59:01,880
Speaker 1: Oh oh Stevie so so that song, but we we

2005
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:05,040
Speaker 1: didn't really connect and it felt really real this time

2006
01:59:06,240 --> 01:59:09,320
Speaker 1: Christmas when I did his show, because I really played

2007
01:59:09,440 --> 01:59:13,160
Speaker 1: with him the toy opening. Yeah, but we we we

2008
01:59:13,400 --> 01:59:18,520
Speaker 1: like actually we actually sang and I played on his piano.

2009
01:59:18,680 --> 01:59:20,560
Speaker 1: He was on the on the road, on the on

2010
01:59:20,640 --> 01:59:24,800
Speaker 1: the keyboard, and it's just, I mean, he's literally the

2011
01:59:24,920 --> 01:59:28,160
Speaker 1: reason I'm doing it, you know, the reason I wanted

2012
01:59:28,240 --> 01:59:31,840
Speaker 1: to do this right, and and so you know, I

2013
01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:35,400
Speaker 1: used to kind of like shy away from the Stevie

2014
01:59:35,480 --> 01:59:38,200
Speaker 1: and me right because I didn't want people to be like, yo,

2015
01:59:38,280 --> 01:59:41,000
Speaker 1: he's trying, he's trying to copy Stevie. But I listened.

2016
01:59:41,000 --> 01:59:44,320
Speaker 1: I went on. I was obsessive when I was thirteen,

2017
01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:46,960
Speaker 1: and I would go to the Circuit City and buy

2018
01:59:47,280 --> 01:59:50,840
Speaker 1: in chronological order, every CD, every Stevie CD a week,

2019
01:59:50,920 --> 01:59:56,920
Speaker 1: every issue. Yeah, I just three is easy to go.

2020
01:59:57,000 --> 02:00:00,160
Speaker 1: Top three intervision music of my mind, um, with the

2021
02:00:00,200 --> 02:00:04,760
Speaker 1: classes where I'm coming from probably um. But so, so

2022
02:00:04,920 --> 02:00:06,640
Speaker 1: I was listening, and this is before I was writing

2023
02:00:06,640 --> 02:00:09,200
Speaker 1: any songs, before I was really really playing. And then

2024
02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:12,240
Speaker 1: once once I started to write, I just started I

2025
02:00:12,320 --> 02:00:15,160
Speaker 1: was doing stuff like Stevie. But for years I kind

2026
02:00:15,160 --> 02:00:17,520
Speaker 1: of tried to mute that a little bit. This last

2027
02:00:17,600 --> 02:00:19,640
Speaker 1: run is when I was just like, man, I'm gonna

2028
02:00:19,680 --> 02:00:21,480
Speaker 1: just do what I feel, you know, And I think

2029
02:00:21,880 --> 02:00:25,600
Speaker 1: that authentic me is part of the reason why, you know,

2030
02:00:25,840 --> 02:00:29,600
Speaker 1: things things started to look up this time around, you know.

2031
02:00:30,520 --> 02:00:32,480
Speaker 1: And then when Stevie gave me a stamp of approval,

2032
02:00:32,880 --> 02:00:34,960
Speaker 1: Stevie just told me he wished he wrote my song.

2033
02:00:35,120 --> 02:00:37,800
Speaker 1: First beginning, well, he played They played Crazy on his

2034
02:00:37,840 --> 02:00:41,400
Speaker 1: station too, Yeah, yeah, they've always supported yeah. But but

2035
02:00:41,480 --> 02:00:43,040
Speaker 1: when I played it, he walked up to me, he

2036
02:00:43,120 --> 02:00:44,640
Speaker 1: was like, man, I wish I wrote that song. So

2037
02:00:45,040 --> 02:00:47,280
Speaker 1: when when Stevie and then being on my record, you know,

2038
02:00:47,440 --> 02:00:49,440
Speaker 1: he's not on a lot of people's records, you know,

2039
02:00:49,960 --> 02:00:51,320
Speaker 1: so when he gave me the stamp, I was like,

2040
02:00:51,360 --> 02:00:53,400
Speaker 1: I don't care about these other people, like I'm gonna

2041
02:00:53,400 --> 02:00:55,480
Speaker 1: just beat me. I'm his son in a way. You know,

2042
02:00:55,560 --> 02:00:59,760
Speaker 1: it's no different thing speaking of Stevie on other people's records.

2043
02:00:59,800 --> 02:01:01,600
Speaker 1: I heard of rumors that if you asked Stevie to

2044
02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:03,760
Speaker 1: just play harmonica on the record, he'll do it, no

2045
02:01:03,920 --> 02:01:05,840
Speaker 1: questions asked, just because he wants to hear more harmonic

2046
02:01:05,920 --> 02:01:10,240
Speaker 1: on the radio. Maybe because he played harmonic on my record,

2047
02:01:11,800 --> 02:01:16,480
Speaker 1: he didn't sing so so maybe so yeah, the uh

2048
02:01:16,800 --> 02:01:19,920
Speaker 1: if you want to know a funny story, you gotta

2049
02:01:19,960 --> 02:01:26,400
Speaker 1: look up Rick James speaking about uh, Mr Policeman the

2050
02:01:26,760 --> 02:01:30,720
Speaker 1: last on side one of Street Songs cursing out Stevie

2051
02:01:30,800 --> 02:01:37,160
Speaker 1: Wonder over the harmonica solo. Very hilarious story. So now

2052
02:01:37,240 --> 02:01:40,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask, what what is your your your two

2053
02:01:40,080 --> 02:01:43,200
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen plays your goals? Well, I moved back to

2054
02:01:43,280 --> 02:01:45,920
Speaker 1: New Orleans like three years ago, and um like I

2055
02:01:46,000 --> 02:01:47,960
Speaker 1: told you about the Buddy Bowden House, but also I

2056
02:01:48,040 --> 02:01:51,760
Speaker 1: started Morton Records, and it's kind of because I saw

2057
02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:55,680
Speaker 1: the same business music business infrastructure that didn't exist when

2058
02:01:55,680 --> 02:01:57,680
Speaker 1: I was there, and the reason I had to leave

2059
02:01:58,040 --> 02:02:00,920
Speaker 1: was still kind of there. And um so I've started

2060
02:02:00,960 --> 02:02:03,720
Speaker 1: to focus on that focus on some New Orleans talent

2061
02:02:03,880 --> 02:02:06,880
Speaker 1: and some outside my background singers though more's I'm about

2062
02:02:06,880 --> 02:02:09,480
Speaker 1: to put out a record on all yeah, um so,

2063
02:02:09,840 --> 02:02:11,720
Speaker 1: a lot of it is is me focusing on some

2064
02:02:11,840 --> 02:02:13,920
Speaker 1: acts outside of me. There's just rapper three D Nat

2065
02:02:14,480 --> 02:02:16,200
Speaker 1: in New Orleans too that I'm about to do a

2066
02:02:16,280 --> 02:02:20,520
Speaker 1: record on and um yeah so so and I'm gonna

2067
02:02:20,520 --> 02:02:23,400
Speaker 1: do another record this year, but that's that's my main

2068
02:02:23,480 --> 02:02:25,840
Speaker 1: focus is trying to get more than records. I mean, shoot,

2069
02:02:25,920 --> 02:02:28,720
Speaker 1: my little indie labels got up a Grammy already. You

2070
02:02:28,760 --> 02:02:32,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, we did already. Yeah, so I'm

2071
02:02:32,320 --> 02:02:34,440
Speaker 1: just trying to keep that going and really build the city.

2072
02:02:34,480 --> 02:02:37,560
Speaker 1: I'm I'm about to um open up this compound in

2073
02:02:37,640 --> 02:02:40,960
Speaker 1: New Orleans, uh Gumbo Studios, and you know it's gonna

2074
02:02:41,000 --> 02:02:43,840
Speaker 1: be a couple of rehearsal studios in there. When is

2075
02:02:43,880 --> 02:02:45,560
Speaker 1: that we're gonna because we need to do some New

2076
02:02:45,680 --> 02:02:51,160
Speaker 1: Orleans shows, you know when this is. But but whenever

2077
02:02:51,240 --> 02:02:59,320
Speaker 1: y'all come hit me up already Yeah, Okay, maybe as

2078
02:03:00,040 --> 02:03:04,360
Speaker 1: has New Orleans whatever it was weird, has New Orleans

2079
02:03:04,640 --> 02:03:09,200
Speaker 1: totally recovered from it's post Katrina. I think it's just

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Speaker 1: turning that corner right now, like I feel like thirteen years,

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Speaker 1: I think it's just starting because part of the thing

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Speaker 1: that makes New Orleans is like the people, the energy

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Speaker 1: from the people, right, and so the people were gone

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Speaker 1: for so long that and it was just shell shock,

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, it's hard to explain that experience, like of

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Speaker 1: having to leave your whole city and seeing everybody gone.

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Speaker 1: I think there wasn't enough attention on the mental aspect

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Speaker 1: of that kids. My little sister like in her senior

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Speaker 1: year in high school, having to go to Atlanta and

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Speaker 1: go to another school and leave all her friends and

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Speaker 1: then want to go home to New Orleans so bad

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Speaker 1: that she goes back and her friends aren't even there.

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Speaker 1: So then she finished. So it was this trauma man,

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Speaker 1: you know. Um, but now I feel like it's just

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Speaker 1: starting to turn the corner and we're getting back to us.

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Speaker 1: It feels like that now, you know, yeah, crazy well

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Speaker 1: you know, ear's ears to you rebuilding the city and

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Speaker 1: bringing it back, trying to do my my my little part.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's all you can do, all right, brother Morton,

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Speaker 1: We thank you for coming on the show. Thank y'all.

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Speaker 1: Thank you man. Like I just wanted to just just

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Speaker 1: from you. Man, I've seen your grind like i've seen

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Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, you know teen years ago

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Speaker 1: that was presor just salute to you man, just what

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Speaker 1: you just the way you've been able to move just

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Speaker 1: going from like I know how hard it is, you

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Speaker 1: know to reinvent yourself and do like so no, no brother,

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Speaker 1: just respect, salute you must love and thank you man,

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Speaker 1: appreciate that and thank you for going back home, because

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Speaker 1: if more artists went back home to their hometowns and

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Speaker 1: built it up, and you know, we have some better cities,

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Speaker 1: build it up, build it, I build it. I built

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Speaker 1: it out, thanking a gamble, damn see the sun. That

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Speaker 1: came to my mind was we built this, Oh God, Indiana,

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Speaker 1: and now it's solid anyway. It's like Fonte and and

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Speaker 1: Sugar Stephen Boss building unpaid bills somewhere children, Grover's smoking

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Speaker 1: a split on Sesame Street, cussing up a store. P J. Morton,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much for coming on the show, and

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Speaker 1: we will see you on the next go round. Of course,

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