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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, get fired up. It is Friday. MK is back,

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Speaker 3: on in our lives here?

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Speaker 2: A lot of cooking in the lab, A lot of

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Speaker 2: also say this, man, there's two things I really realized

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Speaker 3: The hard way in the last couple of years. Luke

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Speaker 3: I'm wired. I get it. But I also go ahead.

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Speaker 2: And dude, I gotta tell you, man, Like if I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, today three pm Eastern on the YouTube dot com

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Speaker 3: It makes you, It gets you inspired that, like Luke,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, dude, let's bet dude, Let's bang twoey is

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Speaker 3: So a recap last year we went had to head

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Speaker 3: but the same head to head format. So, Luke, last

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Speaker 3: Mikey Mormou listened to the fans. We put our heads together,

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Speaker 3: head to head each Friday, three picks a piece, but

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Speaker 3: playing here, Luke. Not We're not playing here for who

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Speaker 3: But oh, by the way, there will be some kickers.

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Speaker 3: Each month, Luke and I have access to three separate

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Speaker 3: that can really change this up. One of them, we'll

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Speaker 2: Yes, good luck, mister Astroglide. I wish you all the

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Speaker 3: You put the ass in astro Glide. Kay, why, thank

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Speaker 3: you very very much. All right, so without any further Ado,

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Speaker 3: UFC Fight Night back this weekend. This one's called okay, bet.

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Speaker 2: We got to get a new animation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna refresh everything coming up. But

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Speaker 3: Book Today, we thank them for partnering with us. Luke,

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Speaker 3: Our turn better be back to defend his trio of

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Speaker 3: first with your first pick. Three picks apiece, straight up betting.

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Speaker 2: Here we go real quickly, just one point of order,

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Speaker 2: if I may. One thing that BC was right about

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Speaker 2: We understand that, we know that the problem is now

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Speaker 2: it's just not a good time now. Now is just

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Speaker 3: You're right. I forgot to say the other big part

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Speaker 3: So we are still going head to head for twelve months,

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get after that. Every quarter. Here we go

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Speaker 3: head to head twenty twenty four. It starts, now, what's

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Speaker 2: All right? So here was my logic for the first time.

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Speaker 2: do this. So with that in mind, the UFC main

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Speaker 2: event a rematch between Mega met and Caliev and Johnny

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Speaker 2: where are you the desert? We all know the story, okay,

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Speaker 2: So who's gonna win the rematch? It is a substantial favorite.

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Speaker 2: The guy I'm picking this is not necessarily the most

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Speaker 3: Right, rounding out the odds for that main event. As

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Speaker 3: for a second. Our colleague at CBS Sports and a

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Speaker 2: Of texting me these days, a lot of texting, a lot.

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Speaker 5: You know, the plan was I was I was pushing

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Speaker 6: It happens.

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Speaker 5: These are the things that happened in the professional fight,

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Speaker 2: Just watch two faces not moving and then there's a voice.

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Speaker 3: Well, what happens a lot luke in our history when

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Speaker 5: Yeah, of course he's gonna say whatever he has to say,

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Speaker 3: Look before we hear from Johnny Walker on this topic,

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Speaker 3: is there anything from ancle Live's point of view that

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Speaker 3: Should Johnny Walker have continued.

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Speaker 2: Well, you can make a call about whether or not

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Speaker 2: I think that Walker's answers weren't great I'm not one

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Speaker 7: What was going through your mind in that moment.

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Speaker 4: I'm just upset because it turned so hard. A lot

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Speaker 4: Even the doctor stopped and they have as I call it,

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Speaker 4: You know, so it is what it is now, So Sorday,

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Speaker 7: He seems to think that, you know, you didn't want

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Speaker 4: So if you want to play without the rules, take

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Speaker 2: I don't have chores about.

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Speaker 4: The knee, my face when I have three position the flood.

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Speaker 4: You know, so I was ready to fight by the rules.

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Speaker 4: If you don't want to fight, Ruth, take the rules

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna book kem in the eyes. I don't care.

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Speaker 4: That's it, Luke.

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Speaker 3: Any chance we can go valley tudo rules for this

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Speaker 2: And I want to be like, no condoms in Scotland,

432
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Speaker 2: No condoms in Scotland, just none. Just burn it through trim.

433
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Speaker 3: Yeah, raw dog Royval style. We'll get to Brandon Roybo.

434
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Speaker 3: By the way, big news coming up later in the show.

435
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Speaker 3: All right, you can watch those interviews in full on

436
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Speaker 3: the Shack MMA YouTube channel. Shout out to Shack Majory.

437
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,879
Speaker 3: Happy New Year to you, Luke, your first pick, Maga,

438
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Speaker 3: mat and Kali have over Johnny Walker straight up my

439
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,159
Speaker 3: first pick on you on okay bet to kick this off,

440
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stay on that UFC card and I'm gonna

441
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 3: go in on one in a featured fight cole main

442
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 3: event that I'm very much interested in, and that's that

443
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 3: Flyway rematch matching Matteo Nicolau against Manel cop As. We

444
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 3: look at the odds right now on this second chance

445
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 3: here for cop minus two eighty, the favorite according to

446
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,919
Speaker 3: fan duel plus two twenty. Nicolau. We talked up this

447
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 3: matchup on Wednesday very excited about it. I do believe

448
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,719
Speaker 3: the winner is going to be up there in the

449
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 3: title picture. But at minus two to eighty. With Menel

450
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,880
Speaker 3: Cops momentum of late and how he's turned his game

451
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 3: around since that defeat, I'm gonna ride Manel Cop here

452
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 3: straight up minus two to eighty over Matteas Nicolau. I

453
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,880
Speaker 3: like the I don't like his post fight interviews per

454
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 3: se Luke, but I like the aggression. I like how

455
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 3: he's rounded out his game. He's a handful right now

456
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 3: for this division. A lot of respect to Nicolau, but

457
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 3: I think Cop has evolved nicely in over the past

458
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 3: two years. We're gonna see a fun fight. Let's see

459
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 3: Cop get his hand raised.

460
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a good bet. All right. So

461
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 2: for my next one, again, we're just doing sort of

462
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 2: straight up picks in this one. That was one of

463
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Speaker 2: the ones BC I had spotlighted. You were asking me

464
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Speaker 2: about it previously, are you asking, like, you know, what

465
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Speaker 2: were some other fights on this card that you really

466
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 2: care about? And there are two guys in the UFC

467
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 2: who are brothers. They're the Basharat brothers, and so for me,

468
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 2: I like Farhead Basharat in this particular fight over Taylor Lapolis,

469
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:08,959
Speaker 2: which is one of the best fights I think on

470
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 2: tomorrow's car. They've got Basharot at a minus two eighty.

471
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 2: He and his brother Javid, I think I have a

472
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 2: very bright future. I really like both of their games

473
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 2: well rounded. I think they're still kind of growing into

474
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 2: their games, growing into their you know, it's a little

475
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 2: bit less sure they're growing into their bias, but I

476
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 2: think still working on the physicality of their game is

477
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 2: perhaps a better way to put it. And Taylor Laplis,

478
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 2: I think has a tremendous amount of experience, more than

479
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Speaker 2: double the fights. I think we're actually at double the

480
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 2: fights that Basharat has. But nevertheless, I just like the

481
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 2: well roundedness. I love the control and the grappling. There's

482
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 2: really a lot to like with this guy's game. It's

483
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 2: a bit more competitive, obviously than the main event, at

484
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Speaker 2: least on paper at minus two eighty for Basharot, but

485
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 2: that's what I'm gonna ride with. Give me the gentleman

486
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 2: from Afghanistan.

487
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 3: All right, Luke. Afghanistan, I saw on Instagram was voted

488
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 3: the least safe country of all the countries on this

489
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 3: planet once again this year, so that breeds.

490
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've seen people like State Department stuff

491
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 2: like don't go out there as a tourist. I thought

492
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 2: that was relatively obvious, but apparently not, you know, apparently.

493
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Speaker 3: Well, Luke, who do you think as a brighter future?

494
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 3: Collectively the Bascharatt Bros Or the bone Fimes, who both

495
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 3: were humble looly.

496
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Speaker 2: Well that's a great question. Well they both have they

497
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 2: are both brothers are but the powerful those are great teams. Ugh,

498
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 2: probably maybe Basharat, but they're a little bit more unproven

499
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 2: at relatively speaking. But they're more well rounded two so

500
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: and they're less they're less risk takers in a good way.

501
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 2: So yeah, it could be interesting.

502
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 3: Interesting stuff, as you said. For for Reid Basharat my

503
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 3: plus minus two eighty against the plus two twenty lapalists.

504
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 3: Luke going Basharat my second pick. Luke, I'm gonna stay

505
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 3: on this UFC card, but I'm gonna head on over here.

506
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 3: Uh what the vision are we in here? Let me

507
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 3: catch myself up middleweight of course, Luke. Phil Hawes knocked

508
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 3: out in three of his last four by and he

509
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 3: enters this one going up against Bruno Fajeda, who has

510
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 3: a minus one thirty two favorite against the very slight

511
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 3: underdog House. Look, I know Phil howskein Bang, I know

512
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 3: what he brings to the table, but I'm a little

513
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 3: nervous on this recent slide of his even though he's

514
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 3: got a finish win as the only victory in that

515
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 3: four fight stretch, but the three knockout losses consecutively. I

516
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 3: like the run Bruno Fajeda has been on. I like

517
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 3: what he brings to the table here. I think this

518
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 3: would be an exciting fight. Give me the Brazilian minus

519
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 3: one thirty two there on the bet. I'm liking this.

520
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 3: I'm liking the direction I'm going here to start off.

521
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: Very good. I kind of agree with that. I don't

522
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 2: think that's a bad bet at all. Phil Hawes one

523
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 2: of these guys who is on paper you would imagine

524
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 2: he would be a world beater, just didn't really get

525
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 2: put together the appropriate way for whatever reason. So that

526
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 2: you have it all right, From my last and final pick, BC,

527
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 2: I'm going to go with a gentleman who I think

528
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 2: is kicking off the card if I'm not mistaken. He

529
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 2: has two fights in the UFC. Goes by the name

530
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: of the Fearless. It's Joshua or josh Van. Listen to

531
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 2: these numbers. B See listen to these numbers. Now, again

532
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 2: these are only from two UFC fights, but both of

533
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,959
Speaker 2: them went to distance. So this is six full rounds

534
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 2: of UFC action. Strikes landed permitted nine point two nine

535
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 2: point two an extraordinarily high amount. Striking accuracy fifty one percent.

536
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 2: That's about right. Strikes absorb permitted that this is high,

537
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 2: but again a relative to how many he's landing, it's

538
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 2: five point nine to three. Now that's very very high,

539
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 2: but he's bombing on people too. Striking defense sixty three percent,

540
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 2: which is interesting. Takedowns per fifteen minutes one so he

541
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 2: can mix up the action a little bit. Accuracy is

542
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 2: not great. Takedown defense eighty seven percent. He had that

543
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 2: great fight against Kevin Borjas at UFC two ninety five

544
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,719
Speaker 2: last year, and then he had a very competitive back

545
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 2: and forth with Zaugas Zambagulov and his UFC debut. I

546
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 2: like this guy a lot. Now he's got a bit

547
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 2: of an issue in this fight BC. He's five to five,

548
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 2: his opponent is five to seven. He has a sixty

549
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 2: five inch reach his opponent sixty nine. That being said,

550
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 2: I just like what he's got going on in his doggedness.

551
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 2: I think he can set up his strikes well. He

552
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 2: can be a good combination puncher, He's resilient. There's a

553
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 2: lot of really exciting things about his game. This will

554
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 2: be I think the UFC debut for Felipe. I don't

555
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 2: know if you've put out Bonez or Boons, but in

556
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 2: either case, I like josh Van, who, according to our

557
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 2: friends at FanDuel, is sitting at a minus two fifty.

558
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: So give me Joshua Van.

559
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 3: Interesting pick right there, Luke. I'm gonna close my third

560
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 3: pick on the same card, but go with this bantam

561
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 3: white banger. This is really one I've circled on there,

562
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 3: and it's Ricky Simone against Mario Bautista. Bautista riding a

563
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 3: five fight win streak since that loss to Trevin Jones.

564
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 3: He comes in as a plus one forty eight underdog.

565
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 3: But I'm not only gonna stay with the chalk here

566
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 3: for all three picks. Big fan of what Simone is doing.

567
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 3: I know he's coming off of that fifth round stoppage

568
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 3: lost a Song You Dong, which snapped his own five

569
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 3: fight win streak. But we've seen this guy go down

570
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 3: a little bit and come back up in a big way.

571
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 3: I expect this fight to be very competitive, but Luke,

572
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 3: once a month, we've got an opportunity in three different

573
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 3: categories to roll the dice a little bit. So I

574
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 3: was really feeling looking at closely at this card and saying, look,

575
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: you know I won last year's okay bet on Vibes.

576
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 3: I got the feels, I got that itch, I got

577
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 3: that scratchiness. Okay, I'm going that way again. I'm going

578
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,719
Speaker 3: with a Vibes pick on Ricky Simone, which means double

579
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 3: the money twenty twenty dollars on the line here for

580
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: the minus one eighty four favorite Ricky Simone against Mario Bautista.

581
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 3: It will not be easy, but this is how I

582
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 3: get down, Luke, going after the feels, Let's do it.

583
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: Those are my three picks on okay bet all right?

584
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: Very good, well done, my friend, love it all.

585
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 3: Right, Luke, any any other any other fights on this

586
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 3: UFC Fight Night card? You're looking to lean a.

587
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 2: Certain direction in terms of picks?

588
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, we didn't. We didn't throw Jim

589
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 3: Miller Gabriel Benitez in this, but Jim Miller's a slight favorite.

590
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: Coming in that one's competitive that I don't have a

591
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: strong feeling about that one.

592
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 3: So let's talk about Jim Miller for a second. We

593
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 3: talked about where he's at in the lead in terms

594
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 3: of most wins, most appearances in UFC history. But Luke,

595
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 3: it seems a matter of fact, he feels like he's

596
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 3: been given some level of assurance that he will be

597
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 3: on UFC three hundred. Have you seen the petition he's

598
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: trying to get signed thousands of signatures so that Bruce

599
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 3: Buffer will announce him as Jim fucking Miller at UFC

600
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 3: three hundred. Normally i'd say, you know what, it might

601
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 3: be a little bit too crass for a publicly traded company,

602
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 3: But we're just saying all F words lately into the microphone.

603
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 3: I mean, all all of the F words loops. So

604
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 3: will this get passed? In your eyes? Well, will Dana say,

605
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 3: you know what, Jim Miller, you got this. You're the

606
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 3: winningest fighter in this company's history.

607
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: It'd be hilarious if it didn't, right. I mean, I mean,

608
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: the things you can say, you can say, and maybe

609
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: you could even say the N word. I don't know,

610
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: but basically, no, no, no, no, I'm not saying you should,

611
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 2: or it's a good idea, but if someone did, they

612
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: gonna do anything about it. So where does the where

613
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 2: does the F word fit into? That? One seems much

614
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: lower down the list. Boh, couldn't imagine why I wouldn't

615
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: get passed. But they'll I'm sure they'll find a reason not.

616
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 3: To uh your three picks to recap on the close,

617
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 3: here for our first episode of Okay bet for the

618
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,719
Speaker 3: new year, magamet Anklaia minus five fifty for Reid Bosher

619
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 3: Rap minus two eighty, Joshua Van minus two fifty. On

620
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 3: the flip side, BC going ten dollars from now cop

621
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 3: at minus two eighty, Bruno Faeda at minus one thirty two,

622
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 3: and Ricky Simone doubling down with the vibes twenty dollars

623
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 3: on him at minus one eighty four. Alright, Luke, that's

624
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 3: the news that fits for this fight night. You fired

625
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 3: up because of the gap?

626
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: Like?

627
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 3: Are you feeling that itch? Like I'm starting to really

628
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: be like, man, I don't care if they're all Contender

629
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 3: series fighters. I gotta see people fight now. I'm ready.

630
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 3: It's been a long winter.

631
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: No, I don't feel that way at all. I don't

632
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: have any desire to just see MMA just to see MMA.

633
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: I need to see I'm not.

634
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 3: Saying I'm not saying I want to lower my standards.

635
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that itch is real because when they

636
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 3: go every week for better or worse and then they

637
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 3: take a month off, you feel it? Luke, you do

638
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 3: you feel it?

639
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: I'll be I'll be completely honest with you. I don't

640
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: feel that at all. Zero. None.

641
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 3: Actually, if we can really get honest, I don't feel

642
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 3: anything inside.

643
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 2: You know, yes, I no, No, dude, I always have

644
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: an itch, like when a good fight like okay, like

645
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 2: I have I mean, all the anticipation in the world

646
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: for Vulcan to Poria, like I have all the anticipation

647
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: in the world for the return of Bud Crawford, or

648
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 2: even stuff smaller than that, like whoever Jiron Ennis is

649
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: gonna fight next? Yes, like fine, all that stuff, but

650
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: just to have like fights at the Apex. Am I

651
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 2: my balls itching for fights at the Apex. No, they're

652
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 2: not that. That would not be accurate.

653
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 3: No. Look, before we transition to our first topic, which

654
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 3: is oh, by the way, some updates on UFC three

655
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 3: hundred and some other fight announcements. Did you see that

656
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 3: video that Mikey texted us from Mike Perry from his podcast? Yes?

657
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 5: Or no?

658
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: Uh?

659
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: I did? Yeah.

660
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 3: It was a tease for the upcoming episode in which

661
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 3: Mike was making a rant that Nate Diaz should be

662
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 3: on UFC the three hundred and should be against him,

663
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 3: and he cold called Hunter Campbell and was like, YO,

664
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 3: give me like the low money, but give me percentage

665
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 3: points on the pay per view I want to fight

666
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 3: in ideas, And then Hunters apparently said how about this

667
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 3: idea instead? And then they cut the cliffhanger to watch

668
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 3: the episode. I didn't even consider this, but is there

669
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,479
Speaker 3: any chance arguably the Combat Sports Athlete of the Year

670
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 3: last year, Mike Perry, will somehow end up on the

671
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 3: most important fight card in a decade.

672
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: Mike Perry has been pulling off quite a successful move

673
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: since leaving the UFC. I think if he I mean,

674
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: it looks like, dude, he's like being thoughtful about his return, right.

675
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: I mean, you can call that a gimmick, but that's

676
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: still a thing he's trying to do in an executed,

677
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: planned way. Maybe a decent chance. I mean, I feel

678
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: like the UFC would probably pass on it, but I'd

679
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: love it if they didn't. I'll put it that way.

680
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,239
Speaker 3: How about that'd be fantastic. That's the kind of like

681
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 3: outside the box insert hot star of the moment. That's

682
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 3: really what Mike Perry is. He was a average, almost

683
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 3: journeyman guy that we loved in the UFC, But boy

684
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 3: has he raised his profile and I'd pop for him

685
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: and Nate. That's just me talking. But let's get into

686
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: topic number one on this Friday, and that is the

687
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: recent fight announcements. There's been a few of them, Luke,

688
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 3: and we're gonna start off right at the top. For

689
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 3: the April thirteenth, Las Vegas UFC three hundred card, we've

690
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 3: been debating, really had nauseum the idea of what's it

691
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 3: gonna look like. I was on the Mike Heck Show

692
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 3: on MME Fighting yesterday, Luca, and I caught an earful

693
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: from both him and Jed Mischau the second about my pessimism,

694
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 3: and they reminded me how many big fights for UFC

695
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 3: two hundred were announced in the two month and one

696
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 3: month window heading into there. Well, we're still three months

697
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 3: in a day out from UFC three hundred, so maybe

698
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 3: I'll slow my roll a little bit. But Dana did

699
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 3: announce earlier this week. I've got a big announcement later

700
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: tonight about three hundred get ready. We were all kind

701
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 3: of trying to figure out if that was just another

702
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 3: Nina drama power slap skit. It was a fight, but

703
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 3: it came like after midnight, hours after he said it.

704
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 3: And it's Wayley Jong versus Jan shan On for the

705
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 3: UFC Women's Drawway title, the first all Chinese title matchup

706
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: in UFC history. But Luke, it's not in China where

707
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 3: it belongs. Am I out of bounds to feel like

708
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 3: this fight is kind of out of place here despite

709
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 3: the respect that I have for both.

710
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, be see, I really really don't

711
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: get the belly aching about this one. I don't know

712
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: that I understand it well. I mean, here's the thing.

713
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: First of all, when we did the mock cards again

714
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: just to clarify one more time, the task was, as

715
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 2: I understood it, Hey, who do you think is actually available?

716
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: So you know we are not picking see him punk

717
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: or some crazy thing. Who do we think is actually

718
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: available available?

719
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 3: He's actually not.

720
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: He's not. He's definitely not but okay, neither you understand

721
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 2: how the way I was looking at it. So I

722
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: kind of excluded Islamaker chev because I thought Rob and

723
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 2: I would get in the way, and I didn't pick

724
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: GSP blah blah blah, and so I went and made

725
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: a bunch of fights, don't I didn't love all of

726
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: that myself. I don't have really much interest in seeing

727
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: Alex Panta fight Tom aspinall. That doesn't do much for me.

728
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 2: But like, I'm just trying to think, just doing a

729
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 2: basic head count, Hey who's available? What can they do

730
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: with this? I mean, you can only come with a

731
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 2: very finite amount of choices. This was one of them

732
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 2: on my mockcard BC. So when they actually announced this fight,

733
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, right, Like they don't have fuck

734
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 2: all else to go with. So I understand the complaint

735
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: in the following sense, which is, hey, this is actually

736
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 2: a good fight. I don't think it's really got the

737
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: fans super enthusiastic at all, But most of the fans,

738
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 2: the hardcore fans, do respect Jean Wiley. They don't really

739
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 2: have a problem with Yanshan on getting the title fight,

740
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: and I think there was this recognition to the point

741
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 2: that you raised about. Hey, I know that we've tried

742
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: to go to China last year in Shanghai and that

743
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: fell apart. Obviously they've been before, but they really want

744
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 2: to go and make this kind of full throad effort.

745
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 2: This is the first time it's been in all China

746
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: UFC title fight in the organization's history. It's never happened before,

747
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: So wouldn't you want to save that for any burgeoning

748
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: effort in China. However, we do not know why they

749
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 2: pulled the Shanghai contest, and we don't know if they're

750
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: going to go back to China at any time soon.

751
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 2: More to the point, they have to service this UFC

752
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: three hundred card the UFC basically, and this is always

753
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 2: a problem that they have to solve, and I think

754
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: for the most part they do kind of solve it.

755
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: But even an organization with as much resources as them

756
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: can't always get it right. They have to rob Peter

757
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: to pay Paul off their roster. They have to kind

758
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 2: of rip one fight from here and put it there.

759
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: And they have these competing interests about Hey, which markets

760
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 2: are we going to develop on which calendar, which time.

761
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 2: I just feel like they needed something that had prestige,

762
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry, this is a prestige fight. You don't.

763
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 2: It's not a big fight, it's not a box office draw,

764
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: but it is a prestige fight, and they had to

765
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: put it on the card.

766
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 3: Full.

767
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 2: I literally expected this, so to me when they rolled

768
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: it out and I saw people being like, Oh, that's it,

769
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 2: I'm like, guys, where are these mystery fighters you keep

770
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: thinking thinking are available? I don't even know who the

771
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 2: fuck they are. This is who's available. This is what

772
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: it's going to be.

773
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 3: Like, here's my problem. And I'm really not trying to

774
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 3: do the hater aid thing, the anti Dana UFC thing,

775
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: or the let me find a reason to complain just

776
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 3: because I'm playing that role. No, my point is this,

777
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 3: they raised our expectations, in my opinion, not just by

778
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 3: having a UFC three hundred card this destination all the

779
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 3: way down. We know the quality of one hundred and

780
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 3: two hundred, so we should know what to expect. And

781
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 3: then you got Dana saying many times, guys, you're not

782
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 3: gonna believe from the opening fight to the end, they

783
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 3: still might come through. In that way, They've got three

784
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 3: more months. I'm not saying they don't. But we've done

785
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 3: this exercise so many times of mock drafts or who

786
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 3: do you think? Or and you're looking around and the

787
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 3: cupboard's getting bare. And they super loaded UFC two ninety

788
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 3: nine a month before, which is great for Miami. And

789
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 3: on top of that, we're already starting to see, you know,

790
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 3: Mahachev come out and say I want to be fighting

791
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 3: justin Gaichee in June. We've got and there are two

792
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: pay per reviews in June, by the way, and also

793
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 3: you got Connor McGregor coming back not at three under

794
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 3: where he wanted, if this is true, but him potentially

795
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 3: at International Fight Week. So when I hear all of

796
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 3: that two ninety nine getting loaded up, Connor on a

797
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 3: different card, it leads me to believe they do have

798
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 3: a grand design and a grand plan. And it's not

799
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 3: that Wayley versus Yan is a bad fight. It's a

800
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,479
Speaker 3: very good fight in one of my favorite divisions. Very good.

801
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 3: But even with the potential logistics of going to China

802
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 3: or going back to China for them, this fight belongs

803
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 3: there regionally, in that area of the world. This fight is, like,

804
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 3: you know, arguably the biggest you can make. It's not

805
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 3: that it would be out of place on three hundred.

806
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 3: It's just what do we have left? What do we

807
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 3: have left to put on this card? If Wayey versus

808
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: Yan is the coleman event, I'm gonna have issues. If

809
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 3: it's the first of three, hold on finish before you

810
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 3: jump in, because there's about twenty more seconds. If it's

811
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 3: the first of three title fights on the main card,

812
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 3: that's certainly not awful, especially if the other two featured

813
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 3: fights to kick it off are fantastic. But Luke, we

814
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 3: have been resigned to the idea that Leon versus Ballal

815
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 3: is going to be on this card. So we don't

816
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 3: know what the main event is yet. But if the

817
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 3: Colemane is Leon Blal and this women's fight is the

818
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 3: third fight on the main card's that's good to very good.

819
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 3: That ain't spectacular. This is UFC three hundred. I want spectacular.

820
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 3: It was DC versus John two, brock Lesner coming back

821
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 3: at two hundred, although Edgar two, I mean, there were

822
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 3: a lot of things that that popped. This doesn't pop.

823
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 3: And that's my fear three months out that if we

824
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 3: are lining these two fights up, what is going to

825
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 3: be the main event. I still think it could be easy.

826
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about Isy's potential return the second. But Luke,

827
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 3: I'm nervous about this announcement. I think I've got the

828
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: right to if I'm expecting what they're telling me to expect.

829
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: Dude, I gotta tell you, Okay, let me let me

830
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 2: ask the question this way, because I I'm just so

831
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: confused by the people who are not understanding like where

832
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 2: we're at with this. It's like, guys, you know, I

833
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 2: wanted this Honda Acor to go two hundred miles an hour. Guys,

834
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 2: it's a Honda Accord. It's just not going to. And

835
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 2: I'm not saying the UFC is that. What I'm saying

836
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 2: is in terms of what's left of their resources and

837
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: how people are perceiving it from a pump and circumstance

838
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 2: kind of again, because I do think those title fights

839
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 2: are prestige fights. I just I just genuinely do not

840
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 2: understand what people are expecting. So let me ask a

841
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 2: question this way. What is the UFC, in your mind

842
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: doing that they should not be doing, or rather, what

843
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 2: should they be doing that they haven't done yet? And

844
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 2: I want specifics, not some kind of general.

845
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 3: Thing unless they wow us with the main event of

846
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 3: something we didn't see coming, or unless they're unless you know,

847
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 3: Yan versus Wayley is going to be like the prelim

848
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 3: main event or the second fight on the main card.

849
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 3: Now I'm going to be, you know, found out to

850
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 3: be eating Crow and I'll be happy to eat Crow.

851
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 3: Fights to me, like Leon Bulal and Yan versus Wailey

852
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 3: again are good to very good, but they're not crossover fights.

853
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 3: They're not you know, casual fans wake up, old UFC

854
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 3: fans come back, and to me, that's what three hundred

855
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 3: is and should be. And they're setting us up right

856
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 3: now in my opinion, unless they come through with something

857
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 3: like Max versus Gae Chee or and then something else

858
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 3: big on top of that, where it is starting to

859
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 3: lead me to believe that they've potentially looked at the

860
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 3: schedule in the first half, which is looking very strong.

861
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 3: Not here to say anything bad about it, but essentially

862
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 3: saying to themselves, you know what, three hundred is going

863
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 3: to sell itself, so let's just make it a deep card.

864
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 3: It's gonna get a certain amount of buis no matter what.

865
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 3: Let's not stress about that. Maybe we'll put Connor in

866
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 3: the International Fight Week. We know we have other events

867
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 3: that we want to blow out and they will. No Cha,

868
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: the Fight Night in Mexico City, the Fight Night in London,

869
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 3: the Fight Night in Saudi. They're gonna have a great

870
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,959
Speaker 3: first half of the year. But historically these round number

871
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 3: cards mean something. I felt like they gave me a

872
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 3: tease that they're not going to follow through on. And

873
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 3: these are not star power fights, looke, They're prestige because

874
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 3: there's titles at state.

875
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 2: Again, who are the guys that they're not picking that

876
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 2: are available to pick?

877
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 3: Okay, here we go.

878
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 2: I just keep coming back to it. It's like, dude,

879
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: the trying and tell my kid, these are the toys

880
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 2: you have to play with. Look at them. They're right here.

881
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: They they're not other toys. We're not going to the playground.

882
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 2: They're right here. The You can literally look at who

883
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 2: is available and you don't have to like keep living

884
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: this promoter fed lie like, oh, well, three hundred is

885
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 2: gonna be blah blahlah, it's gonna be great. Like I'm

886
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 2: not I'm not worried that's gonna be a bad card.

887
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 2: And I think, by the way, the tandem of two

888
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 2: ninety nine back to back with three hundred. Knock on wood,

889
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 2: we don't get a lot of injuries. Knock on wood. Uh,

890
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: it is gonna be a great, gonna be a great

891
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 2: back to back, you know, stretch. I'm actually quite looking

892
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: forward to it. I just cannot understand this, being like, guys,

893
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,959
Speaker 2: we have high hopes. Why do you have high hopes?

894
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 2: And I know what Mikey is saying, which is Dana

895
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: keeps you know, Hey, I've got a big three hundred announcement.

896
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. I hope there is a three hundred. End

897
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 3: of conversation. We have high hope, not.

898
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: Inn of conversation. Guys, you can do a head count.

899
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: Look at who is available.

900
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 3: Who is available? So I know you're saying, guys, I

901
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 3: gave you the toys, play with what I gave you. Look,

902
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 3: they took the great toys, they put them on two

903
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 3: ninety nine. They took Connor and pushed them off. I'm

904
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: selling you that it seems like there was an opening

905
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 3: to make these fights we're talking about now to your

906
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 3: question of who have they not used that they should,

907
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 3: I still want to see if Gaechee, Holloway, Poorier, some

908
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 3: of these big names or not Poorier's got to fight now.

909
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 3: So another one taken off, but whatever remaining names are

910
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 3: left Ada Saw and yeah, I mean we can go

911
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 3: across the board that haven't been used or obviously Strickland

912
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 3: versus DDP. If they can turn around quick, this will

913
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 3: change this conversation. But once again, Luke, there are they

914
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 3: knew about this card far in advance. They're building up

915
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 3: cards around it unless they're going to trick me with

916
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 3: something I haven't seen coming. They're not setting this thing

917
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 3: up as of right now to be a to be

918
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: what it could be, what it should be.

919
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: Okay, so fine. So if you wanted to say in

920
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: the planning of the calendar year that three hundred should

921
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: have taken a priority in ways that two ninety nine

922
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: has taken away from it unnecessarily, it might be your

923
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 2: worldview or moving Connor to June, and who knows what

924
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 2: the reasons are why they did that ultimately and prioritize

925
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 2: three hundred the way they did. If you want to

926
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 2: make a bigger, broader argument about calendar planning well in

927
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: advance and prioritize certain ways in that sense, I understand,

928
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 2: I'm simply saying, as today we wake up. Let's say

929
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 2: we've been in a coma and you wake up and

930
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: someone says, Okay, I know you've been in a coma,

931
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 2: but now it's time to make this card. The first

932
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 2: thing you're gonna ask is who is available? What resources

933
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: do we have to work with? And then once you

934
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: go through that, it takes away any of this suspense.

935
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 2: Now again, we do have to keep some level of

936
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 2: intrigue about it, some level of mystery, because who is

937
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: to say about maybe they could pull a brock out

938
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 2: of the rabbit out of their hat. I don't if

939
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 2: that interest you at all. I don't know, but something

940
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: like that, there is some kind of I would argue

941
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 2: remote possibility of that. But I just want everyone to

942
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: just time out for just a second. Whatever your hopes were,

943
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 2: whatever your dreams were, whatever your fair criticisms might be,

944
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: how it should have been handled up to this point,

945
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 2: stop for a second. Go look at the roster and

946
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: tell me who is available. And then once you actually

947
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 2: do that, this gets a lot simpler. One more point.

948
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: I do want to make me see.

949
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 3: What's simple about it? You get a worse card. I mean,

950
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 3: you're like, it gets a lot simpler, dude. They could

951
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 3: have put O'Malley on this. My point is they saw

952
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 3: this coming a mile away. They could have planned it better.

953
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 2: But I guess, okay, fine, but O'Malley is not on

954
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: that card. And so this is my point, Like it's

955
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 2: one thing to say, damn it. You know O'Malley should

956
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 2: have been in that card fair enough, or you know,

957
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 2: John Jones is insured, so that's not really fair. But

958
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 2: you know, whatever there could have They could have put

959
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: some different things in some different places fair enough, but

960
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: they didn't. Right, So my point is, now that that

961
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: has not been done, what is the reason for the

962
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 2: maintained suspense that you think something is coming down the pike.

963
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 2: That's what I just don't get. The suspense is over.

964
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: I mean, we don't know exactly who's gonna have ran it,

965
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 2: but again, the available names make this a much a

966
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: much narrower possibility of what it could be.

967
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 3: Well, the Dad lecture Mike Heck gave me again reminded

968
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 3: me that many of those fights for two hundred were

969
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 3: last minute. Obviously that was made more difficult by the

970
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: original plan being Connor versus Nate two, and then that

971
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 3: got pushed off when Connor wouldn't fly from Iceland, blah

972
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 3: blah blah, remember that to go through the meeting, and

973
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 3: I do expect them to hit us with at least

974
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 3: one last minute one.

975
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 2: But the reason why I'm surprised.

976
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 3: Because if it's staying as it is, I mean, seriously, Luke,

977
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 3: if the co main event is bulalling Leon, if the

978
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 3: third title fight is Wayley versus Yon, and if that

979
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 3: main title fight is like, you know, has one half

980
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 3: of it really good but isn't slam dunk, You're just

981
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 3: buying a deep cart. That's all I'm saying. But let's

982
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 3: let's keep the show rolling on there. We're gonna get

983
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 3: way Lee versus Yon, which felt like a little bit

984
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 3: of want want from the big build up.

985
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 2: You have one final comment. I know we got to

986
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 2: move on, but I would like to make one last

987
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 2: point if I may, which is and I know everyone's like,

988
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: you're gonna turn everything into UFC bashing. I'm really not.

989
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to, but I would like to ask

990
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: a question to you BC to tell me maybe we're

991
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 2: both biased, but maybe I'm just biased. Maybe not. Let me.

992
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: Let me just pitch something at you. There have been

993
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: criticisms that have been made recently, not necessarily by us,

994
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 2: but by other folks, that the UFC definitely has a

995
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: lot of B or even maybe A minus stars, guys

996
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: who can do respectable on pay per view but are

997
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 2: not necessarily huge draws. Granted, in an era where getting

998
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: pay per view buys is still harder than it ever

999
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 2: potentially has been. And John Jones is still out there.

1000
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 2: I do think he's a very big draw, but obviously

1001
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 2: he's on ice because of his injury, so that's not

1002
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: really in play. Connor as well, but they've got him

1003
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 2: moved to June. My question is this, is there not

1004
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 2: at least some thought and consideration that should be given

1005
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: to the idea that we're just not really in an

1006
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 2: era with many elite UFC stars. We don't have five

1007
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 2: or six of them floating around. We've got one or

1008
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 2: two of them floating around. And by the way, if

1009
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: those one or two are John and Connor, their days

1010
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: in the sport are limited as well. So one of

1011
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 2: my point is is part of what is ailing three

1012
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: hundred is simply that the amount of stars in MMA

1013
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 2: has relatively speaking declined, which is making the other matchmaking

1014
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: woes even more difficult. Is that in any way a

1015
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: fair consideration.

1016
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 3: It one hundred percent. And by the way, I just

1017
00:46:58,440 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 3: want to reiterate one more time. If it ends up

1018
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 3: being Izzy versus the winner of Strickland versus DDP, that

1019
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 3: will be some level of injection of like a hot

1020
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 3: feud that will change this conversation great degree. But to

1021
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 3: answer your question, what was your question again.

1022
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 2: Lou is that are we living through an age where

1023
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: there are simply just fewer stars than there once was.

1024
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 3: I think we have to look at the ESPN deal

1025
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 3: as changing the need to promote pay per views on

1026
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 3: a level where you're actively trying to max out the

1027
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 3: value of the pay per view, where now it's more like,

1028
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 3: well we're getting this baseline for each show. That's great.

1029
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 3: I also think Luke, that you know, I've always felt

1030
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 3: they've purposely really tried to always keep the brand as

1031
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 3: the face the three letters or and Ordaina as the

1032
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 3: face of the operation, and try not to overly push

1033
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 3: singular fighters above and beyond. I mean, sometimes when you do,

1034
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 3: you get into troubles, like when you have a McGregor

1035
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: the all time biggest one, or you have a Brock

1036
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 3: who's not going to stay full time, is going to

1037
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 3: bounce around, and he had an injury which ultimately ended

1038
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 3: his career. But you know Connor finally makes that money,

1039
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 3: then he wants stop, and that he wants to do

1040
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 3: the Floyd fight that he wants to you know, all

1041
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 3: this stuff. I think they would prefer right now to

1042
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 3: have a larger group of A minus to B plus

1043
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 3: than have those A pluses, because sometimes there's that can

1044
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 3: be a little bit problematic. And I don't think they're

1045
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 3: the same promotional vehicle anymore. They're not motivated the same

1046
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 3: way financial. They're motivated in different ways financially meaning live gates.

1047
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 3: Let's put somebody in their hometown or state or country,

1048
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 3: and let's jack at that up where it used to

1049
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 3: be about, oh, this person could be something like when

1050
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 3: Chris Widman suddenly upset Anderson Silva and I'm working at ESPN. Dude,

1051
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 3: they send Chris Widman for car washes at ESPN, which

1052
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 3: are when when an athlete arrives at in Bristol, Connecticut

1053
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 3: at the studio and does eight to nine hours of

1054
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 3: just interview, interviewing every show and every possible. Dude. They

1055
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 3: send Widman three separate times to ESPN between the first

1056
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 3: and second Silver Fights. That was the old school model

1057
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 3: of we have somebody who might be special, let's get

1058
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 3: him out there on every show we can, everybody's website,

1059
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 3: everybody's podcast. That has changed, Luke, not just with the

1060
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 3: ESPN deal and the change of how they look at

1061
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 3: pay per views, but obviously the growth of fighter YouTube channels,

1062
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 3: fighters having their own podcasts, all of that. So things

1063
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 3: have just shifted. But to your point, yes, we don't

1064
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 3: have breakthrough monster stars. I could argue that if you

1065
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 3: put O'Malley in the main event of UFC three hundred

1066
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 3: and put the vehicle behind him, that could be a

1067
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 3: good move in that direction. You could say, well, what's

1068
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 3: the difference, he's had a loaded two ninety nine card

1069
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 3: that's going to be in Miami, star studded blockbuster. Yeah,

1070
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 3: they're still pushing him, but I don't think they're as

1071
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 3: targeted and focused as they used to be on taking

1072
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 3: a singular athlete and really trying to make him the

1073
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 3: next big thing. I don't think anyone is anymore, Luke.

1074
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 3: If you really look across the board at combat sports promotion,

1075
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 3: that's sort of the old way to do it. Like

1076
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 3: it's not you know what, I mean, like, you know,

1077
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 3: trade we were you and I were working in our

1078
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 3: early days of combat sports where the newspaper to digital

1079
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 3: transition happened, and that changed a lot of the amount

1080
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 3: of jobs, how much you get paid, how combat sports

1081
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 3: has covered all of that. Well, now we're in the

1082
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 3: midst of the digital explosion and the fighters have their own,

1083
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 3: you know, ways to get their points across. It's just

1084
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 3: changed it, Luke. But I don't think they're going any

1085
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 3: promoters these days are really going after it the way

1086
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 3: they did five ten years ago in that specific lane.

1087
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 3: Maybe they don't feel like it's financially worth it for them.

1088
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 2: They just don't need pay per view to be the

1089
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: banger that it once did to make the money. They

1090
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 2: don't need it. They don't need to have stars bigger

1091
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 2: than life than the way they once did because of

1092
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 2: the business model. Now it's a content model and a

1093
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 2: scale model, and they've got that one on lock and so.

1094
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 3: Right, it's about filling out.

1095
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 2: It's just dude, Like, you know, it's interesting, the overall

1096
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 2: level of popularity relative when we started MMA is significantly higher,

1097
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: like the baseline is way, way, way way higher. But

1098
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 2: the larger than life figures man, they're just not nearly

1099
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 2: as many of them. And I don't know how much

1100
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 2: of that is intentional, but it feels real one way

1101
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 2: or the other.

1102
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 3: But also, I mean, do you think parody has done

1103
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 3: something to that where where the sport is now thirty

1104
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 3: years old as opposed to fifteen twenty years old. That

1105
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 3: it's just harder. It's harder to go on a long

1106
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 3: title reign. It's harder to be dominant over time. It's

1107
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 3: it's hard to do with what guys like Jones, GSP,

1108
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 3: Silva Newness had done with those you know, ten thirteen

1109
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 3: Dimitris Johnson long win streaks. It's really really fricking hard

1110
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 3: to do that nowadays, which also stunts the growth of

1111
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 3: certain stars. So that's that's that. Let's stay on three

1112
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 3: hundred though, Luke, we got Wayley versus Yon. The other

1113
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 3: announcement that came yesterday, great fight, fight fight former champions

1114
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 3: in different divisions, Devison Figoredo, Cody Garbrandt. I know there's

1115
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of people reacting the way you did,

1116
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 3: which is ah, man, is Cody gonna get served? I

1117
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 3: don't know.

1118
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 2: Let me say it flatly, that's a bad fight for

1119
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 2: Cody Garbrant. That's a bad fight for him. I would

1120
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: not have accepted that if I was his team.

1121
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 3: Okay, but if he's going to try to come back

1122
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 3: now on a two fight win streak and in his

1123
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 3: early thirties, and if he's gonna have a chance at

1124
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 3: one more run, you gotta be guys like this in

1125
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 3: the deepest division in the sport, right right.

1126
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 2: But I mean, how realistic is that? We're talking about

1127
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 2: going from a guy his last fight, who himself was

1128
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 2: coming off of next surgery. Now to Cody's benefit and credit,

1129
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 2: he did look good, did not look bad in any way.

1130
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 2: He looked good. He did his job perfectly, great job.

1131
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 2: So I am appreciative of the fact that he is

1132
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 2: entitled to an escalation from there and a tougher opponent

1133
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 2: because he looks so good and he performed so well.

1134
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 2: But dude, we're talking about Devison Figurata, a former champion

1135
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 2: in one twenty five who just moved up to one

1136
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: thirty five and beat up a very good rob font

1137
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: like beat his ass. His power carried with him, he

1138
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,240
Speaker 2: has phenomenal jiu jitsu, He's surprisingly physical for the weight class.

1139
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 2: Now again, Cody can thump too, and then figuredo will

1140
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 2: take chances. Okay, fair enough, it's a fight, and then

1141
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 2: you know whatever. But realistically, that's a very bad fight

1142
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 2: for Cody Garbrand. I am shocked that his team accepted it,

1143
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 2: to be honest with.

1144
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 3: You, two former champions, they both bang. It's going to

1145
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 3: be interesting wherever direction it goes. Luke. To close out

1146
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 3: the three hundred talk, I'm gonna read you the fights

1147
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 3: we already know. You Just tell me if you think

1148
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 3: it's going to be on the main card or not

1149
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 3: versus yat Yes, yes, of course, Charles Olivera Arminsarukian.

1150
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna feel.

1151
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 3: Like it should be. It should be right, that's.

1152
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 2: A banger, banger probably so probably so yes.

1153
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 3: Yuri Prahatska, Alexander.

1154
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 2: Rackitch, No, that'll be on the prelims.

1155
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 3: Okay, Calvin cater Al, Jamine Sterling, prelms, all right, and

1156
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 3: probably the same for bow Nickel to Cody Brundage, probably

1157
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 3: kicking off the card. So there we go for UFC

1158
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 3: three hundred. Other announcements, very interesting stuff going on the

1159
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 3: UFC Mexico. Is that Mexico City Fight Night card. That's

1160
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 3: coming up us.

1161
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 2: That's right.

1162
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 3: We were supposed to see Brandon Moreno and a number

1163
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 3: one contender about against Amir Albazi, if I'm correct on

1164
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 3: my setup here Albosi pulling out, though Brandon Royval, the

1165
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 3: raw dog fresh off the title loss to Pantosia, will

1166
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 3: slide in for a rematch. Moreno Royval two luke, I

1167
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 3: gotta go two thumbs up here?

1168
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 2: Did they confirm Roval? I know he volunteered. Did they

1169
00:53:59,400 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 2: confirm it?

1170
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 3: Yeah? He actually put out yesterday on Instagram that I

1171
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 3: have a big announcement coming, And then I saw Brandon

1172
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 3: Moreno say up publicly, Oh, you're saying, did the promotion

1173
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 3: confirm it? Maybe not officially yet, but we seem to

1174
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 3: have two fighters saying yes.

1175
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 2: Okay. Well, if they're supposed saying that, I probably think

1176
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 2: it's true. Dude, Good for him. He looked he didn't

1177
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 2: look bad against well, okay, he got beat thoroughly by

1178
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: Pantoja because he had no offense, but his defense looked better.

1179
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 2: He didn't make big mistakes. That'll be an interesting and

1180
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: tough fight against Moreno. I don't know how much I

1181
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 2: like it, but I like that one a lot more

1182
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 2: for him than I like Cody for example, against Figaredo.

1183
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 3: All right, that card is going to go down in

1184
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 3: Mexico February twenty fourth, and we have another fight that's

1185
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 3: been added to it. It's very interesting, Luke, maybe the

1186
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 3: brightest prospect since Aaron Pico. Insert Luke's angry response. Raoul

1187
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 3: Rosas Junior, who did have that one defeata bounce back

1188
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 3: gonna take on former Ultimate Fighter Ricky Tercios. What do

1189
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 3: you think about this matchup on February twenty fourth?

1190
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 2: Appropriate step up? I mean the guy he fought last time?

1191
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,479
Speaker 2: Who was the guy that Rosas fought last time? Without looking?

1192
00:54:59,239 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1193
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, right exactly exactly? I mean exactly. So

1194
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 2: he's entitled to someone who is a little bit above

1195
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 2: that because he dispatched with him relatively easily. So he

1196
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 2: has earned appropriate step Uplet's see how he does.

1197
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 3: All right, Rosas is eight and one overall. To answer

1198
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 3: your question, Luke, he bounce back with a knockout win

1199
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 3: in the first round against Terrence Mitchell Mitchell after losing

1200
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 3: to Christian Rodriguez where he sort of imploded Gastau, you know,

1201
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 3: found his low moment. We'll see if Rojas can bounce back, Luke.

1202
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 3: One thing you can say, though, when he fights in

1203
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 3: Las Vegas, they pop. If he's fighting here in Mexico

1204
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 3: February twenty fourth, it's gonna be another He's I mean,

1205
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 3: people want, I'm glad.

1206
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 2: Let's let's put him. Let's put him in places to

1207
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 2: get a fan base. So I'm not in any way

1208
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 2: opposed to him getting a fan base, like, let's let's

1209
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 2: promote the kid. He's obviously talented and he crosses two worlds.

1210
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 2: Two thumbs up. All I'm asking people is let's get

1211
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,919
Speaker 2: make the rhetoric match the achievement, not the other way around.

1212
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 3: All right, game, bread, bare knuckle. On March second, we're

1213
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 3: gonna have a heavyweight title bout. This is bare knuckle mma,

1214
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 3: of course. Junior dos Santo's fresh off the five round

1215
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 3: victory over what's left of Roy Nelson, gonna take on

1216
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 3: former UFC middleway Alan Belcher for the heavyweight strap. He

1217
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 3: came over from BKFC. Do you care on March second?

1218
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 2: No, not even a little.

1219
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 3: All right, well, Luke, that same night or afternoon, we're

1220
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 3: gonna see that UFC Saudi Arabia excuse me fight night

1221
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 3: card that Dana has teased will be pay per view,

1222
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 3: like the only matchup we do have right here in

1223
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 3: front of us announced heavyweights Gyrozenio rosenstrike against Shamil Gaziev.

1224
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 3: Are you feeling something?

1225
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 2: No, I don't, I don't, I don't care much.

1226
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 3: Okay, Luke, We're gonna go over to March ninth, which

1227
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 3: of course is UFC two ninety nine in Miami. Dude,

1228
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 3: that thing is so sick, so loaded, bud as we

1229
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 3: got two new fights Rebellus Dspone, Josh Parisian and Luke.

1230
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 3: I probably butchered Dsponne's name there, but he is telling

1231
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 3: me if I'm wrong? What the six eight judoka? Where

1232
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 3: where are we at with this guy from Brazil?

1233
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 2: Six seven judoka out of Cuba and he has four fights,

1234
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 2: I believe, which total total nineteen seconds. He is just

1235
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 2: bombing on these bums, so hopefully he can get a

1236
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 2: bit of a better challenge here as ticks on man.

1237
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 3: With the Cuban background. He'll be fighting in Miami here

1238
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 3: for his debut. This will be interesting. Josh Parisian is

1239
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 3: the potential lamb being brought out to the slaughter as

1240
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 3: a tubby white guy luc We'll see what happens in

1241
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 3: that one same night. By the way, Michelle Pereeda Pereira,

1242
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 3: excuse me, the high flying now middleweight from Brazil against

1243
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 3: Alfarran impersonator mihal Olek Shashik Luke, that'll be a war, right.

1244
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: That's a great fight. Yeah, Alek Shishik is I think

1245
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 2: a little bit underrated. I mean I wouldn't say, you know,

1246
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 2: he's the best that the division has to offer, but

1247
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 2: well rounded, experienced, technical, It's a good test. It's a

1248
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 2: good test for putting. I like it.

1249
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 3: He's got Polish power. He does come to fight. Let's

1250
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 3: move on over to March twenty third. That's a fight

1251
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 3: Night card in Las Vegas and Luke I popped big

1252
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 3: for this one. UFC Women's flyweight division former strawweight champion

1253
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 3: rosenami Unis, who lost in her debut to Mono Faro

1254
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 3: at one twenty five, gonna welcome Amanda hebas So. In

1255
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 3: some ways it's too blown up straweights looking to continue

1256
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 3: their reinvention at one twenty five, But considering the loss

1257
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 3: that Rose had, Luke, this is suddenly an interesting fight.

1258
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 3: I mean, I know you're gonna make jokes about you

1259
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 3: know what level of attire I'll be wearing on March

1260
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 3: twenty third watching this, But do you feel what I'm feeling,

1261
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 3: because you know, I'm considering that same tat with Witmeyer

1262
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 3: that mister Hebas has after this one.

1263
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, your dungarease and your underwear are gonna be filled

1264
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 2: with dung and then around you, yeah, around your akeles.

1265
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 2: I mean, the mklube is gonna be in full effect

1266
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 2: on that fight. But that aside, your general assessment of it,

1267
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 2: I think is quite correct. It's a much more interesting

1268
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 2: stakes fight than I would have imagined for what Hebos

1269
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 2: was gonna be at about a year ago, so maybe

1270
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 2: even for Rose actually, so yeah, I like this fight interesting.

1271
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 3: One same night, Davy Grant, Cody Gibson and Gibson had

1272
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 3: that reinvention in the econom McGregor Ultimate Fighter season recently.

1273
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 2: As history teacher.

1274
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, not a bad fight there. Steve Stephen nuin versus

1275
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 3: Jarno Aerins that same night, did I butcher that? Probably? Okay,

1276
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 3: you don't care either way. And Ricardo Ramos against Juicy j.

1277
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 2: Actually it's Ricardo Homos. He is Brazilian.

1278
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 3: Thank you for that. All right, we've got a rescheduling, Luke,

1279
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 3: It's gonna go down March thirtieth in Atlantic City, same

1280
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 3: card headline, by the way, Blanchefield versus Pharaoh, It's gonna

1281
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 3: be Dominic Reyes against Carlos Olberg. Olberg called his shot.

1282
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 3: We all kind of went, you want dom Rees what

1283
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 3: he got him? Luke, We're gonna see this. Will this

1284
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 3: be the time that don Rees can finally get back

1285
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 3: on track?

1286
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 2: You know, someone asked me yesterday if like is you know,

1287
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 2: should he be taking this fight? And my answer is

1288
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 2: probably not. But for Reyes, it's a bit high stakes.

1289
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 2: If he wins it, it's a great rebound. It doesn't

1290
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 2: fix everything, but it would be a nice rebound. And

1291
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 2: if he loses, and in particular, if he loses via

1292
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 2: vicious ko, to me, that would be a signal that

1293
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 2: it's time to hang it up. So it's a huge

1294
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 2: stakes fight for well for both guys, but us specially

1295
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 2: Dominic Rays.

1296
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 3: He did move to the Glover to share a camp there,

1297
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 3: and Connecticut came up poor in the first outing with

1298
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 3: that team first round knockout loss. But speaking of potential retirements, Luke,

1299
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:28,439
Speaker 3: I don't know how he got clear to come back.

1300
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 3: He is inspirational in terms of his in terms of

1301
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 3: his drive. But Chris Widman, for better or worse, is

1302
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:35,439
Speaker 3: going to roll the body back out one more time.

1303
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 3: He is teasing that this could be his last. It's

1304
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 3: the same night in Atlantic City, Bruno Silva, the opponent.

1305
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 3: I don't mean to be disrespectful, Luke to the All

1306
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 3: American what Widman has accomplished. He's one of the greatest

1307
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 3: middleweights in this sports history. I just don't. I just

1308
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 3: don't want this dude. His comeback from that leg injury went.

1309
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 3: While shout out to him for the for the stick

1310
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 3: to it, noss and the perseverance. It was weird, Luke.

1311
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 3: He took a lot of damage. I just you know,

1312
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 3: he got chopped up, and I just don't want it

1313
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 3: anymore for him.

1314
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 2: I want him, you know, I don't. I don't. You know,

1315
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 2: easy for us to say. I echo that. I don't

1316
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 2: want to be shitty to him. He's never done anything

1317
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 2: bad to me. He's only done great things for the sport.

1318
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 2: I recognize that. I totally understand it, but I'm with you.

1319
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 2: My interest level in you know, maybe he wins, of course,

1320
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 2: you know, but my interest level into what you had described,

1321
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 2: which is if he just goes out there and takes

1322
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 2: another beating, what's my interest level in that? It is

1323
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 2: negative eight billion? I just have no fucking interest, you

1324
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 2: know what? What have not for his sake? I don't

1325
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 2: have an interest?

1326
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 3: You know what? What would have not sucked if they

1327
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 3: did announce that it's probably his last fight? But instead

1328
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 3: of doing Bruno Silva in Atlantic City, what if they

1329
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,439
Speaker 3: did him versus Luke rock Hold in a rematch unlike

1330
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 3: the early prelims of UFC three hundred. Those are the

1331
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 3: type of add ons I'm looking for, Luke, right.

1332
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 2: No no interest. I don't. I don't. I don't need

1333
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 2: to see these guys take this kind of damage anymore.

1334
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 2: Like it's I can't believe the level of things that

1335
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 2: they're going to tolerate to have the next stage of

1336
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 2: their life absolutely fucked up? Dude? How many dude? Just

1337
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 2: since Biss being retired, forget everything else before that, which,

1338
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 2: by the way, its own medical history, just since he retired,

1339
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 2: the guy has surgery like two times a year. It's insane.

1340
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 2: What had he gave away from his own health to

1341
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 2: do what he did? And that's a choice he made

1342
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 2: and he achieved glory, and I'm sure in many ways

1343
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,439
Speaker 2: he is probably happy with it. But dude, we always

1344
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 2: talk about it like the bill comes due man, the

1345
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 2: bill both literally and metaphorically for Chris Widman and his

1346
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 2: quality of life. I genuinely worry about it, man, I

1347
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 2: really really do.

1348
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 3: There we go, that's Atlantic City in March. Let's go

1349
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 3: over to the PFL. Peter Murray was interviewed by John Morgan,

1350
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 3: veteran journalist and Luke. He's teasing the idea that Anthony

1351
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 3: Pettis versus Cedric Doombay could actually be a real thing

1352
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 3: in the damn smart Cage. Here's the quote. Yeah, I

1353
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 3: mean Cedric fans in Paris will see him for sure,

1354
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 3: compete with the PFL in Paris early this year, and

1355
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 3: the Anthony Pettis Doombay conversation, it's a real one, Murray said.

1356
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 3: They both want to fight and will put it together.

1357
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 3: I think it'll be fun, would be later this year.

1358
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 3: Your response to that, I.

1359
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 2: Hope the American fans can watch.

1360
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 3: Okay, but that's a crossroads fight that yeah, I'm in.

1361
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 3: That's a that's a wild fight.

1362
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 2: Right, sure. I mean I think it's a little crazy

1363
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 2: because I guess it's true that if Pettis wanted to wrestle,

1364
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 2: he could, I don't think that's why he wants to fight.

1365
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 2: And so you're like, well, you know, Doombe only has

1366
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 2: like what one or two pro mma fights something like

1367
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 2: that handfuls a lesson handful, and you know he's taking

1368
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 2: on a much older guy who's got a ton of damage,

1369
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 2: and so you know, it kind of evens out there,

1370
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 2: probably fair. I don't hate it. I don't hate it,

1371
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 2: but you know, this thing with the PFL, like every

1372
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 2: everyone wants them to be the little engine that could.

1373
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I hope you guys all recognize none

1374
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 2: of this matters unless the laws change. I hope, I

1375
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 2: hope you understand that none of this shit matters at all, like,

1376
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 2: none of it zero. So I like this fight.

1377
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 3: It's creative. That's how you use old veterans, you know,

1378
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 3: because look, there's the experience edge, there's wrestling edge for Pettis,

1379
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 3: but he is he has passed it. So this would

1380
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 3: be this would be something, it'd be something I don't know.

1381
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 2: As well as long as again, as long as American

1382
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 2: fans can watch it, great super super in favor of it.

1383
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 2: If they can, then what the fuck are we doing?

1384
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 3: All right?

1385
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 2: Well?

1386
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 3: Israel outa sonya Luke to bring back one final time

1387
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 3: the teas and potential here of UFC three hundred getting

1388
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 3: big star infusion. Let's talk about at Asnia. So he's

1389
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 3: kind of come out of the woodwork a bit. He

1390
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 3: talked with Teddy Atlass, he was on a bunch of podcasts,

1391
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 3: and he specifically talked to Combat TV about his timeline

1392
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 3: and his return. He said, when I come back into

1393
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 3: the gym and start training full time, I'm in a

1394
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 3: new space with a new energy, probably end of next month,

1395
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 3: meaning February maybe, But I think with the way I

1396
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 3: heal my body, I don't think maybe it'll take that long.

1397
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 3: But yeah, end of next month, I'm probably thinking maybe earlier,

1398
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 3: we'll see. I'm going to rehab. Now. Things are tracking

1399
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 3: along nicely. So Luke Attosign is basically saying he's coming

1400
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 3: back so healthy from this injury that he could see

1401
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 3: himself starting to train next month. So I ask you this, Luke.

1402
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 3: I also saw a report that Alsiannia could be cage

1403
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 3: side for Strickland versus DDP in Toronto later this month.

1404
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 3: Is that the missing link that if the winner of

1405
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 3: that fight can turn around quickly that if we have

1406
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 3: Izzy in the front row, maybe even coming into the

1407
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 3: cage after that, this solves everything. Could is he start

1408
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 3: training in February and be ready in April?

1409
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 2: Yes, probably he could. I think the guy's a bit

1410
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 2: of an iron man and has a unique physical makeup

1411
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 2: in that regard. Like when he was competing, he just

1412
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 2: never like one of these guys never out due to injury,

1413
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 2: you know, is just absurd what he's been able to do.

1414
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 2: And if you look at his overall competitive schedule between boxing, kickboxing,

1415
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 2: and MMA, like the guy is just consisted despite the

1416
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 2: longest ley off of his career. To be honest with you,

1417
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if that's true, but it's certainly among them.

1418
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 2: And either way it works. You either get the DDP fight,

1419
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 2: which has all the bad blood and everything else, or

1420
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 2: you get the rematch with Sean Strickland, which was also

1421
01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 2: going to be an interesting test of everything else, and

1422
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 2: you could that into three hundred and again, I don't

1423
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 2: know to what extent that would satisfy everybody else. I

1424
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 2: would consider that if you've got that, and then below

1425
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 2: and Leon and then you've got the women's fight in

1426
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 2: Yon Chan and John Wiley. Yeah, that to me, that's

1427
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 2: a great trio of car It's not blockbuster next level,

1428
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 2: but it's a very suitable main event or BC. The

1429
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 2: other way direction that they could go is they they

1430
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 2: could go with the fifth fight between Izzy and then

1431
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 2: Alex Padeda. So yeah, you got a couple of interesting options.

1432
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 3: Because when you and I were first starting this idea

1433
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 3: of next year, what could three hundred look like? That

1434
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 3: was the fight I threw out to you first of

1435
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 3: the idea of like, look, if you're gonna max something

1436
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 3: out for three hundred, then I isy versus Poeton five

1437
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 3: or three in MMA for the light heavyweight title. Give

1438
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 3: is he the chance to be two division champion, give

1439
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 3: the rivalry a chance to continue in a Pacquiel Marquez

1440
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 3: type way where there's just crazy results left and right,

1441
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 3: Like who's gonna end up winning this thing? I'm wondering

1442
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 3: if that's the move, Luke, and I specifically wonder if

1443
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 3: DDP and strict and end up having a five round

1444
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 3: fight and they both, you know, take on injuries or

1445
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 3: what have you, that's gotta be the move, And that

1446
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 3: would Suffice Louke to me, I know there's people that

1447
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 3: would have customer fatigue in that matchup. I wouldn't not

1448
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 3: for the light heavyweight title. I would think that is

1449
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 3: central casting back.

1450
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 2: At five, I would, yeah, totally true. I apologize for

1451
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 2: cutting you off at one five. I'd be like, what

1452
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 2: are we doing again? I mean, you know what is

1453
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 2: it doing for the division? Blah blah blah at two

1454
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 2: oh five where it's just a complete clusterfuck goat rope

1455
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 2: at all times, throw them in there. Who gives a shit? Yeah,

1456
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 2: I'm totally in favor of that. I'd love that fight.

1457
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 3: And I know people saying, what about Jamal Hill. We

1458
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 3: did give an injury update. It looked like he wasn't

1459
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 3: gonna be ready more towards like June, so based on

1460
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 3: what his manager had said, we'd talked about that on Wednesday.

1461
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 3: So those are your teases, your turns, your announcements. Either way, Luke,

1462
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four is gonna be big even with zero

1463
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 3: PBC announcements. Yet we know they're gonna where They're scheduled

1464
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 3: to launch the Amazon Era in March. We've heard rumors

1465
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 3: of a second series, but no announcements. As of yet.

1466
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 3: Hopefully they can continue to add to this calendar because

1467
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 3: in Gano versus Aj is arguably the biggest fight of

1468
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 3: this first six months so far of what we know,

1469
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 3: Luke Chandler, Right.

1470
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 2: Well, I guess you could say, well, what's bigger Francis

1471
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 2: versus Joshua or nine?

1472
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 3: Probably two historically bigger, Probably not going to be as

1473
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 3: buzzworthy as but.

1474
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, well those those three are the biggest three. Let's

1475
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 2: put it that way.

1476
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 3: There's excited, excited. Let's go to topic number two. It

1477
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 3: is a boxing match this weekend that that is worth

1478
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 3: your time. The main card is expected to start ten

1479
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 3: pm Eastern on ESPN and ESPN plus. Quebec City, my

1480
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 3: people's home, Luke, but it's a Russian slugger Chechnian bone

1481
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Yeah, Chechenian and descent, born in Augustan, residing

1482
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:52,719
Speaker 3: in Montreal for the last decade. It's unified light heavyweight

1483
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 3: title holder Arthur Vietter viv better believe it, nineteen and

1484
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 3: oh with nineteen KOs and Luke. There is optimism that

1485
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 3: a fight against Beevall for all four titles could be

1486
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 3: ahead of us this spring in Saudi Arabia, but first

1487
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 3: former super middleweight champion Callum Smith twenty nine to one,

1488
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 3: that only lost a twenty twenty unification loss to Canela

1489
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 3: Alvarez at one hundred and sixty eight pounds. He's two

1490
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 3: to zero in the division since moving up. This is

1491
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 3: a very interesting fight here. I think of no, is

1492
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 3: this Luke better beev just turned thirty eight or he

1493
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 3: will turn thirty eight excuse me a week after this fight.

1494
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 3: He was in a war last year with Anthony Yard

1495
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 3: that we didn't expect in which he got hurt, had

1496
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,799
Speaker 3: to battle back. It does seem to some degree ages

1497
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 3: catching up with him, but he's also on the verge here.

1498
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 3: Better Beeve if things go his way this calendar year

1499
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 3: at thirty nine, to have the biggest year of his career.

1500
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 3: Imagine if he beats Calm Smith then fights Beevall. I mean,

1501
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 3: this could be the true breakout cement him as a

1502
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,759
Speaker 3: future all time great. It's just crazy that it's happening

1503
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 3: now at this age and yet he's nine o with

1504
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 3: nineteen KOs. I mean, could you imagine Luke if he

1505
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 3: retired unbeaten with all knockouts in every fight.

1506
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 2: Could you imagine that Someone asked me that like, what

1507
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 2: would be the boxing significance of that? Is there any

1508
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 2: other analogous comparison you could make?

1509
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 3: I don't think so, because like, no, no, I don't

1510
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 3: think so, especially not on like this super title level. No.

1511
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, Edward Special.

1512
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 3: Do you remember Edwin Valera Luke from Venezuela South Paul Slugger.

1513
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 3: They he was twenty seven and oh with twenty seven

1514
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 3: knockouts when he uh took his own life and his

1515
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 3: families in a horrible double murder. There, but that guy

1516
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 3: was being primed and set up for an eivisual.

1517
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 2: Wait to interject a lot of positivity and show. Do

1518
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 2: you remember that guy who murdered his family and then

1519
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 2: killed himself? Yeah? He was also one of the greats.

1520
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:49,640
Speaker 3: Uh you remember boxing Chris ben Wi. I hate to

1521
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 3: say it, but it's true, Luke. They were gonna set

1522
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 3: him up with with hachiow in his rise and it

1523
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 3: was gonna be a big fight. Unfortunately, that guy took

1524
01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 3: his life. Luke, that was somebody who was on that

1525
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 3: road nineteen and o with nineteen KOs when you fought

1526
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 3: mostly world class competition. This is wild. This is a weird,

1527
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 3: unique wild career.

1528
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 2: Dude, and he you know, and you can see like

1529
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say like rock monovshock rock Monov's

1530
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 2: winds or accidental, that's not quite true. But sometimes they

1531
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 2: tend to spring up a little bit late or somewhat surprisingly.

1532
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 2: You know, dude, I don't ever get that feeling watching

1533
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:28,679
Speaker 2: a better beef. Like he's just marching these fuckers down

1534
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 2: the entire time, dude, and he has no problem mixing

1535
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 2: it up. There is some there's a lot of scientific

1536
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 2: boxing going on. It's not he's not some mindless marauder,

1537
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 2: but the level of pressure he puts on the amount

1538
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 2: of power that he retains, it's all a coordinated, you know,

1539
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 2: thoughtful effort. But it's a physical effort too. With the

1540
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 2: way which he just moves into these guys, it's you

1541
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 2: just know, man like, he doesn't take a lot for

1542
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 2: him to get the opening, and then once he does,

1543
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 2: there's no looking back. Man. Once this guy smells blood

1544
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 2: like once hees or once he hurts them, there's nobody rallies.

1545
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously the results speaks to that, but it

1546
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 2: just it's very stark to watch someone work like him.

1547
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 2: He is a special not at all. I can't wait

1548
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 2: for this.

1549
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 3: He's got it all. He's got big size for the division,

1550
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 3: crushing power in both hands. Kno that everybody's fought an

1551
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:20,680
Speaker 3: incredible amateur background. He was a world champion at light heavyweight,

1552
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 3: moved up to heavyweight, fought in the twenty twelve Olympics,

1553
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 3: actually lost to Alexander Usik in the finals of the

1554
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:29,520
Speaker 3: twenty eleven World Championships and at the twenty twelve Olympics.

1555
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 3: But what he's done one hundred and seventy five pounds

1556
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 3: was just completely clear out the division and beat everyone

1557
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 3: not yet named Bevall. Now he wants to get that chance,

1558
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 3: but Calum Smith up first, and Luke Vegas believes Callum

1559
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 3: Smith is in this fight as much as we can.

1560
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 3: With boxing odds minus five point fifty Archer better beev

1561
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 3: is your favorite according to FanDuel plus three sixty on

1562
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 3: Callum Smith. So we're gonna have some other things to

1563
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 3: talk about, including this weird Vada result. But first and foremost,

1564
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 3: how much of a shot are you giving Smith with

1565
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 3: that glossy record at twenty nine to one. He is

1566
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 3: a big puncher here, how do you sort of see this?

1567
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 2: I have to tell you I have a very hard

1568
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 2: time believing that the guy that got walked down and

1569
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 2: cornered and batted around by Canelo Alvarez is going to

1570
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:25,799
Speaker 2: be able to withstand not the same kind of attack,

1571
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 2: but a reasonably similarish kind of pressure from a guy

1572
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 2: who fully fills out the weight class, is a known puncher,

1573
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 2: durable himself. By the way. I gotta tell you, I

1574
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:39,680
Speaker 2: know a lot of people. I've seen some people pick

1575
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 2: Smith this week. They certainly know more about boxing than

1576
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,680
Speaker 2: I do. I understand that there are some reasons to

1577
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 2: think that behind the length and the jab and the

1578
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 2: sort of the boxing fundamentals that Smith possesses, there are

1579
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 2: reasons for optimism for him. I recognize that, But this

1580
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 2: is what I mean about better be just walking these

1581
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 2: guys down and putting pressure on them. I just don't

1582
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 2: believe that the guy that Canelo was able to do

1583
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 2: that too, will be able to withstand even a thirty

1584
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 2: eight year old better Beef. So yeah, that's where I

1585
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 2: come down on this. I don't have more to say

1586
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 2: much more than that, I've.

1587
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 3: Seen a lot of people make that same comparison, and

1588
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 3: I can't argue it. To argue with it, especially since

1589
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,640
Speaker 3: Callum Smith is now one division higher. He is two

1590
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 3: and oh since moving up, But you know, hasn't beaten

1591
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:21,639
Speaker 3: somebody at the super elite level. And if Canelo can

1592
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 3: do that to him, what can Better Beef do? I

1593
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 3: do wonder, though, Luke, if these odds, which are close

1594
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 3: in a boxing sense, are just there more of the

1595
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 3: idea of where exactly is Better beve at. He's never lost,

1596
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 3: he's never been in a position of great scare. But

1597
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember that fight he had

1598
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 3: right after the pandemic where he looked old, he looked

1599
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:42,719
Speaker 3: a little bit out of it. We gave him a

1600
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 3: chance to prove us wrong. He came back in unification wins,

1601
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 3: including against Joe Smith Junior, to show us he's fine.

1602
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 3: But what do you make of that Anthony Yard fight?

1603
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:54,679
Speaker 3: So Anthony Yard is muscular, a brawler, big time power.

1604
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 3: He was able to hurt Better Beef. He was able

1605
01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:00,600
Speaker 3: to make that a unique and interesting fight until he

1606
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 3: got stopped in the eighth round, even though he doesn't

1607
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 3: have anything close to the boxing ability of a calm Smith.

1608
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 3: So is it just Hey, maybe Better Beef can be

1609
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 3: vulnerable against super big punchers, But that's about it. Because

1610
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 3: I can't see Calm Smith being able to outclass Better

1611
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 3: Beef from a technical standpoint. No, no, no, no, no, no,

1612
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 3: no no, no.

1613
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:20,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Yard was. I mean there were several

1614
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 2: times where Yard would land and you could see it

1615
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 2: would visibly rattle Better Beef, not enough to really stop

1616
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 2: him as we know it. In the end, it was

1617
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 2: obviously he got his hand raised, but I remember him

1618
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 2: several times he's getting popped with punches that you know

1619
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 2: were probably unusual to take in that regard. And also

1620
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 2: I think a guy like Yard takes some risks that

1621
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 2: Smith probably won't, and.

1622
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 3: Yard will pass out, he'll go for bread.

1623
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:47,759
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, he faded down the stretch as well, especially

1624
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 2: when he started getting hurt. When when he's again, when

1625
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,640
Speaker 2: Better Beef hurts a guy, dude, it's it's curtains. But

1626
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 2: so I understand, and again to your point, thirty eight

1627
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 2: is not necessarily the youngest, although this guy's in great

1628
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:00,040
Speaker 2: shape for thirty eight and blah blah blah. So so

1629
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,480
Speaker 2: it's not to me that, like, could it be competitive

1630
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,640
Speaker 2: for a while. I'm not even guaranteeing a finish for

1631
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 2: Better Beef. I can see some ways that Smith can

1632
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 2: cause some problems, but I just feel like in the end, again,

1633
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 2: I really want to be clear about this because even

1634
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 2: Bredman Edwards was talking about this week that people don't

1635
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 2: give enough credit to the scientific boxing of Better Beef.

1636
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:21,440
Speaker 2: He finds openings, he actually creates traps on the forefoot,

1637
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 2: but nevertheless, the amount of physical intimidation and pressure he

1638
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 2: puts on guys, it is overwhelming and the record speaks

1639
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 2: to it, and I do think that will be the

1640
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 2: difference maker in the end.

1641
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 3: I caught up with him on Morning Combat a couple

1642
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:34,679
Speaker 3: weeks back. We're going to get to that in a second.

1643
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 3: But look, there was some news this week that has

1644
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 3: caused some level of controversy here, really spurred on by

1645
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 3: Eddie Hearn, the promoter of Callum Smith, and it all

1646
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 3: goes back to a weird VADA result that Better Beef

1647
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 3: had during training camp back in December. Mikey, can we

1648
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:52,600
Speaker 3: show the tweet of the results. This is aggregated by

1649
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 3: Michael Benson. The statement from Archer Better Beef reads like this,

1650
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 3: It has come to my attention that Callum Smith intends

1651
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 3: to disseminate miss information about my VADA testing for this fight.

1652
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 3: Let me be Claire. I'm a clean athlete. I've never

1653
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 3: tested positive for a banded substance throughout my career. Any

1654
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 3: attempt to imply otherwise through innuendo or suggestion is slanderous

1655
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 3: and libelous. This conduct is beyond acceptable trash talk. Callum

1656
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 3: is already searching for excuses, looking for a way out.

1657
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 3: See you on Saturday. And I believe those quotes were

1658
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 3: taken from a story from Kevin Ioli, who is big

1659
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 3: on breaking sort of the news of this. You got

1660
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 3: Eddie Hearn in interviews saying well, look, you know, is

1661
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 3: this guy as clean as he says he is? What's

1662
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 3: going on with this? So? Look it was it wasn't

1663
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 3: that he popped. It was an adverse finding what does

1664
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 3: that really mean?

1665
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 2: No, not even an adverse. It was atypical atypical.

1666
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:44,440
Speaker 3: So what's the difference between atypical and I failed to test?

1667
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 2: Basically that there is a range where you're looking at

1668
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 2: someone's levels for whatever it is that they're measuring, and

1669
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 2: there's a range where you can sort of consider this normal.

1670
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 2: And then you know, usually when someone pops, by the way,

1671
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 2: it's not barely. They usually pop by a fairly significant margin,

1672
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 2: depending on what they're measuring, and this one was an

1673
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 2: elevated level, but not necessarily in the territory that you

1674
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 2: could affirmatively conclude that this was from performance enhancement. In

1675
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 2: other words, there is a natural explanation at least possible

1676
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 2: that could explain why he did that. You would need

1677
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 2: further testing, and by the way, they did some more

1678
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 2: testing and then the numbers went back down. So the

1679
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 2: basic answer is could this be a case where performance

1680
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 2: enhancing drugs are involved? It is possible, but the likelier explanation,

1681
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 2: and this is why they have these different categories, is

1682
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 2: that it is more likely to be a natural, albeit

1683
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:43,600
Speaker 2: unusual fluctuation, or perhaps a better way to look at

1684
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 2: it might be it is a unusual fluctuation, but they

1685
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 2: don't have enough corroborating evidence to affirmatively conclude that this

1686
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 2: came from a performance enhancing drug that he somehow ingested it.

1687
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 2: There is a natural explanation. By contrast, if you see

1688
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 2: someone take antibotics and then they take a test, the

1689
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 2: numbers will be so fucking high that it's only only

1690
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 2: quite literally pharmaceutically possible to get that place. He is

1691
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,679
Speaker 2: not there. He is much more inside than a range

1692
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 2: that is actually possible under natural circumstances. As I said,

1693
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 2: though albeit unusual.

1694
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 3: Interesting stuff right there. So I caught up with better

1695
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 3: be of a couple of weeks back. Very good interview

1696
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 3: because I'd never talked to him before, and I got

1697
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 3: to see that wit in that charm. He looks like

1698
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 3: such a scary dude, but look speaks four languages, kind

1699
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 3: of an international man of mystery. He talked at length

1700
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:33,680
Speaker 3: about his friendship with GSP, which has been a big

1701
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 3: part of him becoming a combat icon here in Atrial.

1702
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, would you say?

1703
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 3: And Cad Yeah, that that too, Luke. Let's hear from

1704
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 3: Artur talking about this Callum Smith matchup in what he

1705
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 3: sees as a challenge on the other side. So let's

1706
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 3: talk about this matchup. What about Callum Smith makes him

1707
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 3: such a tough challenge that you expect on January thirteenth.

1708
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 6: You know, if Callum Smith is a good challenge for me,

1709
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 6: like he was, he were like category lower and he

1710
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 6: was championed there, you know, and like you, you talk

1711
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 6: about my old past opponents too, Like I never say

1712
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 6: like this guy is easy for me, or this guy

1713
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 6: easy for me. You know, it's all. I respect them

1714
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 6: for everyone, you know, for all of them in the

1715
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 6: past and in future. But for fight, I tried to

1716
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 6: be keep with me, everything, anything with me to beat

1717
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 6: this guy.

1718
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 3: Sure, I love that guy's broken English. He doesn't understand

1719
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 3: what I'm saying there. Look, I helped him through it,

1720
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 3: but this got some charm. I also asked him about

1721
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 3: the age. He will be thirty nine at the end

1722
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 3: of this month. Let's hear how he said to a

1723
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:59,759
Speaker 3: Justice game You're thirty eight years old, Arthur, but you

1724
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,839
Speaker 3: just they'll look really young. Have you had to adapt

1725
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,680
Speaker 3: your game with age or change your style at all

1726
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:06,759
Speaker 3: now that you're getting older?

1727
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 4: You know?

1728
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 6: I have conditioned coach, my condition coach and the boxing

1729
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 6: coach like and I asked them always like during the

1730
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 6: camp you can you can ask them to and I

1731
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 6: asked them, how do you how do you think we

1732
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 6: did today? Good job? But I do this. Are doing

1733
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 6: this better than last five years or now? It's better?

1734
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 6: They tell me, yes, you better than last five years ago.

1735
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 6: They tell me that, but I think they they lie

1736
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:41,640
Speaker 6: to me a little bit. But I'm good, you know,

1737
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 6: But I'm good. I feel good. I have my feeling

1738
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 6: for confident you know, and when they told me that

1739
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 6: you better than five years ago. But if they even

1740
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 6: they like a little bit, you know a little bit,

1741
01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:59,679
Speaker 6: if they even they lie a little bit, that eighty

1742
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:00,759
Speaker 6: pre and it's true.

1743
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 3: You know, it's still pretty awesome here. And Luk, he's

1744
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 3: always gonna have that power to bail himself out, which

1745
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 3: will probably make every fight from here on out be

1746
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:14,600
Speaker 3: super fun. But Smith a tough test. Imagine Bevall in

1747
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 3: the spring. I said, do you want that fight? He

1748
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 3: was like, look, Vodzik wanted in unification fight. I signed

1749
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,679
Speaker 3: for it. Joe Smith wanted the unification fight. I signed

1750
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 3: for it. That answers your question. So he's ready, Luke.

1751
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:28,800
Speaker 3: But what's interesting is what he told me is, look,

1752
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 3: that's one of the biggest fights you can make this year,

1753
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 3: Bevall versus Mature. We have I hope we see it.

1754
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 3: But he told me, Luke, although he doesn't think he

1755
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 3: can move up to heavyweight to rematch Usik from the amateurs,

1756
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 3: he is after Bevall, ready to move up to cruiserweight

1757
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 3: and try his craft there. How do you think his

1758
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 3: chances would be?

1759
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 2: Cruisewaight is a shit division, so probably at least at

1760
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:51,759
Speaker 2: least decent. Probably at least decent.

1761
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see, we'll see how much longer he wants

1762
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,639
Speaker 3: to keep at it. Better b versus Smith this Saturday,

1763
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 3: ten pm Eastern on the Plus over there at ESPN.

1764
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 3: Very well, well, very very fight. You gotta see, you

1765
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 3: gotta see that, So let's keep it going, Luke. We

1766
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 3: also have one Fight Night eighteen this evening going on

1767
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 3: there in Asia Ray Floor. Not much to say about this, Yeah,

1768
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 3: what should we say about it?

1769
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 2: So here's the deal. People want us to do more

1770
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 2: one content, and we want to do more one content.

1771
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 2: I don't know that this is the best car to

1772
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 2: really kick that off. There are a fair number of

1773
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 2: Muay Thai kickboxing belts and there, which isn't to say

1774
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 2: you shouldn't watch or that there isn't anything of value,

1775
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 2: but there is not. The main event is a MMA

1776
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 2: about and this dude, Shamil Gasanov, is an interesting kind

1777
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 2: of up and coming guy. But at the same time,

1778
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 2: there's no MMA title on the line. This is really

1779
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 2: not much of an MMA product, which doesn't mean we

1780
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:48,719
Speaker 2: can't cover it. But this is truly a hardcore fans delight,

1781
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 2: and I mean hardcore of the hardcore. Very few even

1782
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 2: hardcore fans are going to watch this kind of thing.

1783
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 2: I think the bigger news BC to me is the

1784
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:59,440
Speaker 2: two dates that the UFC. Excuse me, that one announced

1785
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:02,559
Speaker 2: they want to bring a couple of US shows here. Also,

1786
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 2: they're trotting out forty eight year old Akayama in a

1787
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:07,719
Speaker 2: weird ass bout where it's like boxing MMA and kickboxing rules,

1788
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 2: Like what the fuck are they doing? Anyway? But that aside,

1789
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 2: the two dates in the United States to me is

1790
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 2: a little bit more interesting. But yes, there is one

1791
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 2: Fight Night eighteen coming up.

1792
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 3: So all right, So to recap the news that that

1793
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 3: we touched briefly on on Wednesday, One made their US

1794
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 3: debut in twenty twenty three in Denver, Demitrius Johnson in

1795
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 3: the main event, a deep card with all the stars

1796
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 3: on it. They're going to be back September sixth, also

1797
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 3: in Denver, this time at a ball arena. What the

1798
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 3: hellse ball arena? Luke? Is that McNichols?

1799
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 2: What is that?

1800
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 4: So?

1801
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:38,559
Speaker 2: I think the First Bank Arena is no more and

1802
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 2: in Broomfield even yeah, I believe it's no more, and

1803
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 2: so they're going to a new one. I don't know

1804
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 2: what the seating is on that one. Pepsi Center was

1805
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 2: twenty k plus. That's where Jones fought Rampage. I went

1806
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 2: to that fight. But yeah, it'll be interesting to see

1807
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:53,679
Speaker 2: what they can pull.

1808
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 3: And then November eighth, State Farm Arena in Atlanta would

1809
01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:58,679
Speaker 3: be one fight.

1810
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 2: That's where the Hawks, so that you can get twenty

1811
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 2: thousand plus in that arena. I'd be very curious to

1812
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 2: see what they do at the gate for these shows.

1813
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:06,719
Speaker 2: Very curious, very.

1814
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 3: Interested to see. Now Amazon, Luke and the streaming Wars

1815
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 3: has one championship has sorry PBC, So that's that's. Uh.

1816
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 2: You know what's interesting though about one is it's like

1817
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:20,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know what to make of it.

1818
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 2: And we'll see what happens with PBC as well. We

1819
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 2: see where it's like, Okay, it must be great to

1820
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:27,839
Speaker 2: be getting tech money and to be on a platform

1821
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 2: this big. It's great, But it doesn't look to me

1822
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 2: like Amazon does a ton of advertising on behalf of

1823
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 2: the various entities that are being shown on there. It

1824
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:39,799
Speaker 2: seems like that's the responsibility that the promoter has themselves,

1825
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 2: which to an extent makes tense, but it does make

1826
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 2: the job difficult for them to reach this market in

1827
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 2: the way that they're trying to do.

1828
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 3: We'll see if they're in the gimmicks, and we know

1829
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 3: they are. When I interviewed Chatre on my podcast at

1830
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 3: CBS Sports in twenty eighteen, Luke, he told me he

1831
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:57,600
Speaker 3: trains every day and has so for thirty years. What

1832
01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 3: about Chatre?

1833
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 2: He's such a fucking liar who gives a ship what

1834
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 2: he has to say? Wow? Wow?

1835
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 3: What about Shatri versus the winner of season two of

1836
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 3: The Celebrity Apprentice one Championship edition. It could even be

1837
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 3: in grappling. Would you be into that? No? No, no,

1838
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 3: you're like I like one. I just want less Shatre.

1839
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 3: Please all right, I.

1840
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 2: Don't want less. I just want less of him talking.

1841
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 2: Just stop talking.

1842
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 3: You know people say that about me on this show too.

1843
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 3: Final note from Combat Sports. I texted this year yesterday

1844
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 3: and I'm itching, and I want you to tell me

1845
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 3: if I should be excited or not. Bob Aram of

1846
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 3: Top Rank gave an interview with Minucacopian of the of

1847
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:39,919
Speaker 3: Boxing Seam, one of the finest Armenian American journalists.

1848
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 2: We have, Luke, you want to blow him?

1849
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 3: I can't support a friend. I mean every friend. You're

1850
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:45,760
Speaker 3: like broke back.

1851
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 2: You know, no, you want to blow him and then

1852
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 2: you want to blow Brendo Komono. Those are the two guys.

1853
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 3: Not a chance. So here's what Aaron said, Luke. He

1854
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 3: gave Tank Davis his flowers, calling him one of the

1855
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:04,680
Speaker 3: best fighters in the world, but said I'm willing to

1856
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 3: match three of my fighters against him and a two

1857
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:13,680
Speaker 3: Network super fight pay per view, Shakher Stevenson, Vassili Lomachenko

1858
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 3: or Tao Fivo Lopez Junior. He's Bob Aaron now look

1859
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 3: ninety two year old ninety three year old Bob Aaron.

1860
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 3: Notwithstanding says I believe my guys all three of them

1861
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 3: would win. But the specific quote that popped me, which

1862
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 3: he said, wait and see, I believe there will be

1863
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 3: an offer this summer in Saudi Arabia after Ramadan that

1864
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 3: would make a fight like this happen. So look up

1865
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 3: to this point. Outside of that, Jake Paul won off

1866
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 3: all the boxing and Saudi has been heavyweight focused for

1867
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,759
Speaker 3: the most part, but it has brought people from opposite

1868
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:47,639
Speaker 3: lines together for better or worse. Saudi is the bridge

1869
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 3: that is making these big fights happen. What we know

1870
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 3: about the business landscape right now, is it possible that

1871
01:27:54,840 --> 01:28:00,799
Speaker 3: we could get like Tank Loma, Tank Tao this summer, BBC,

1872
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 3: Amazon and ESPN Plus coming together with saudy money backing

1873
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 3: up the brinkstruck Like, dude, this is getting me fired

1874
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 3: the hell up?

1875
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, boy, you love but I don't you

1876
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:15,639
Speaker 2: love the Saudi government. You're like dude, Bone saw those journalists,

1877
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 2: bro Bone saw them. I mean, just cut him to pieces.

1878
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 3: She does follow me, Luke, and I follow him back,

1879
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 3: all right.

1880
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:24,799
Speaker 2: I followed him back too. He there's a lot of promoting.

1881
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 2: He followed me as well. But I would say yes,

1882
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 2: the answer is probably yes all the ways. Also a

1883
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 2: small note about that Tank Davis remember converted to Islam recently. Yes,

1884
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:36,679
Speaker 2: probably would help his chances to be an attraction over

1885
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 2: there in that part of the world. But on top

1886
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 2: of that his tremendous boxing and star power, So uh yeah,

1887
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 2: I actually do think I do think they're gonna branch.

1888
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:46,639
Speaker 2: I mean, heavyweight was their test case. You know, they've

1889
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 2: they've sort of been inching their way in and I

1890
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:51,599
Speaker 2: definitely feel like you're gonna see a smaller weight fighter

1891
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 2: under Saudi auspices take place over there, bone saw or not,

1892
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 2: you know.

1893
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 3: Okay, So, Luke, while it's super exciting that we're gonna

1894
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 3: get fury usick maybe even twice, that we're probably going

1895
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 3: to get the winner of aj And and Ganu against

1896
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 3: the winner, maybe the losers will face off. Look, heavyweight

1897
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:07,719
Speaker 3: has a chance to give us everything if you're telling

1898
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 3: me in and around this one forty division where all

1899
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 3: of the young stars in the sport live, if we actually,

1900
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 3: realistically across networks could put them together in Saudi. I'm

1901
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 3: talking about the Haines, the Garcia, Ryan Garcia's, the Chakurs,

1902
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 3: the Taalo Femos, the Tank davis Is Luke, this is

1903
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 3: everything that you would want to push the sport forward, right, like,

1904
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 3: everything you would want outside of killing.

1905
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 2: Journalists, I mean outside of bone sawing journalists. Yes, this

1906
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:38,640
Speaker 2: was in fact a great idea and a great a

1907
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 2: great I should say a great possibility. But again, lots

1908
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 2: of ways this can get tripped up.

1909
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 3: It's Boxing's we haven't seen Al Hayman and the PBC.

1910
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:50,679
Speaker 3: Outside of Andrew Ruiz fighting Anthony Joshua in the rematch,

1911
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 3: we haven't seen a PBC fighter go over there. Well, no,

1912
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 3: we've seen wilder, so maybe maybe it can happen. There

1913
01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 3: we go. Maybe I'm wrong, though, Luke. But luckily we

1914
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:01,960
Speaker 3: have a segment every Friday to prove that Morningcombat at

1915
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 3: gmail dot com is your email address to send in

1916
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:07,760
Speaker 3: when you've been listening to the show and something we

1917
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 3: said just pissed you off, you better bring receipts. And

1918
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:13,720
Speaker 3: if you're gonna roast us, you better be right. This

1919
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:15,720
Speaker 3: one's called dead wrong.

1920
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 2: Talking.

1921
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 3: Uh oh, Luke. The headline of our first dead wrong

1922
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 3: is Appy comes for the jugular. Is he gonna clap

1923
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:28,639
Speaker 3: back at us or JP? What do you think?

1924
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 2: He's probably just gonna murder somebody in his basement.

1925
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:34,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, one of his students after coitus. Luke, Here's what

1926
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:37,800
Speaker 3: David Appleton says. Hi, guys, a few dead wrongs this week.

1927
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 3: During last week's Fans Ups, you said that a donk

1928
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:43,000
Speaker 3: had his average Joe T shirt on back to front.

1929
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 3: That's dead wrong. There are two shirts on sale by

1930
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 3: RJ Tittyfiddler with the same picture, one on the front,

1931
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:54,640
Speaker 3: one on the back. Hey, look know your website.

1932
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 2: Right, I guess I don't. I guess I don't. Yeah,

1933
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 2: I'll take the l.

1934
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:00,760
Speaker 3: Okay appy dead wrong. Number two. I agree with Luke

1935
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 3: refusing Brian's use of the word irregardless. Don't forget app.

1936
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:06,840
Speaker 3: He's an English teacher, Luke. I take issue with him

1937
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 3: calling it a grammar problem. This is a vocabulary issue

1938
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 3: and nothing to do.

1939
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:13,719
Speaker 2: With it's an addiction issue. Yes, it's not a grammar issue,

1940
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 2: per se. That's right, I'll.

1941
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 3: Take And given that Luke said number third while running

1942
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:20,760
Speaker 3: down his list for Friday, he should probably go back

1943
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 3: to his grammar class. Wow, all right, yes, yes, And

1944
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 3: finally here BC keeps saying that there is a feud

1945
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:31,640
Speaker 3: between j. Piquette and me. This is dead wrong. A

1946
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 3: feud implies that both parties actually give a shit for

1947
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 3: some reason. I am living rent free in poor mister

1948
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:41,360
Speaker 3: Piquette's head, and he is sending obsessive fan subs about

1949
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:43,559
Speaker 3: me every week. I wish him well and we'll just

1950
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:45,880
Speaker 3: one We'll just say that one day the truth about

1951
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 3: JP will come out. He knows what I mean. Thank you,

1952
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 3: good sirs. Have a lovely weekend. It's happy, Luke, what

1953
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:53,960
Speaker 3: do you this is?

1954
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:57,160
Speaker 2: This is going to end in murder suicide. This is

1955
01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:00,000
Speaker 2: I don't know on which end you know what I mean,

1956
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:02,720
Speaker 2: I don't know who's doing the murdering and who's doing

1957
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 2: the suicide.

1958
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:07,560
Speaker 3: And but went from Valero to Benoit to Appleton. Is

1959
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 3: that what you're saying, Luke.

1960
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:11,839
Speaker 2: I'm not saying him per se, But somehow in this equation,

1961
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:13,760
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a murder suicide. It's gonna be.

1962
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 3: Gonna be believe that's it. And those all the dead wrongs. Mike,

1963
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:19,439
Speaker 3: we did pretty good this week. If that's true. That's it?

1964
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, that's it. Wow, look at that right.

1965
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 3: Send your gripe to Morning Combat at gmail dot com. Look,

1966
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:29,720
Speaker 3: this is a pretty Oh Dad's had one for your

1967
01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 3: live chat, Luke. But they, Mikey claims that doesn't count

1968
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:33,840
Speaker 3: if they try to dead wrong your live chat because

1969
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 3: it's you.

1970
01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:38,639
Speaker 2: Know, it does count, but just not for MK Yeah yeah, yeah.

1971
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 3: Do you is it? Is it heavy politics still, Luke?

1972
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 3: The live chat?

1973
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a little bit of politics. I'm trying

1974
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,160
Speaker 2: to actually have a little bit of let that lest

1975
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 2: these days. Yesterday was a little bit more than normal,

1976
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 2: But in general, I would say the last few months

1977
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:54,760
Speaker 2: I turned away from it a little bit.

1978
01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:57,679
Speaker 3: It just have you considered on your channel a separate

1979
01:32:57,960 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 3: politics only show.

1980
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:02,600
Speaker 2: No, I don't have I mean, I'm I'm mostly disgusted

1981
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:05,679
Speaker 2: by our politics these days, and our politics is stupid

1982
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 2: in America as well. It's not a very informed kind

1983
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 2: of conflict. It's it's really bad. So no, I don't

1984
01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 2: have much interest in that. All right, I will ask

1985
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,599
Speaker 2: you a question. I will ask you a question. So

1986
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 2: I don't know how to do it. But one thing

1987
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:26,960
Speaker 2: I would like to do if I can, is I

1988
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:30,719
Speaker 2: would like to shine a light on the DC based

1989
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:34,400
Speaker 2: not combat sports community, but the actual guys in the

1990
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 2: trenches getting ready to fight. I would like to and

1991
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:39,960
Speaker 2: they kind of invited me, but I would like to

1992
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 2: go down to the Headbanger's gym because it's been kind

1993
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:45,599
Speaker 2: of changed a lot. And again they've I've been invited

1994
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:47,240
Speaker 2: there a couple of times and I just haven't taken

1995
01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:48,519
Speaker 2: them up on it. But I think I need to

1996
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:52,880
Speaker 2: go down there. Barry once and then Scooter Davis actually

1997
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 2: hit me up over the break and asked me to

1998
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:58,320
Speaker 2: come down, and I think I should do it. I

1999
01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:01,599
Speaker 2: think I would like to tell the story while i'm

2000
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 2: here of who in my city were the guys who

2001
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 2: were battling for the city inside of combat sports. I'm

2002
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 2: just not sure how to tell it, you know what

2003
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:14,280
Speaker 2: I mean. I've actually never done it before. I don't

2004
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:15,639
Speaker 2: really know how to do that.

2005
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:20,840
Speaker 3: Sounds like the budding co production between you and Danny Segurha.

2006
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:23,679
Speaker 2: So Girha, there is no h in there or Jay,

2007
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:26,640
Speaker 2: but I don't know. I'm looking for some ideas. I

2008
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 2: don't really know how to storyboard it. I don't know.

2009
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 2: I'm just kind of putting it out into the universe

2010
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 2: and see what happens. But it's something that's on my

2011
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 2: mind that I would like to do this year. I

2012
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:36,360
Speaker 2: definitely would like to do that, not just the by

2013
01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:39,360
Speaker 2: the way, there's MMA gyms as well, but I just

2014
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:42,599
Speaker 2: feel like that the boxing side is kind of underrepresented here.

2015
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:43,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, do you.

2016
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 3: Have any other personal goals for the new year? Luke?

2017
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:48,679
Speaker 2: First of all, you didn't say shit about my haircut,

2018
01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:50,320
Speaker 2: and I feel like an excellent haircut.

2019
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:52,679
Speaker 3: I wanted to say this one of your first rants

2020
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 3: on this show. I had already cut you off twice

2021
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 3: in a two minute span, so I couldn't go for

2022
01:34:56,840 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 3: a third. I was going to cut you off to

2023
01:34:58,400 --> 01:34:59,240
Speaker 3: compliment the hair.

2024
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:00,439
Speaker 2: Oh thank you.

2025
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:00,759
Speaker 3: Well.

2026
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:04,879
Speaker 2: Interestingly, news. The lady who cut my hair for years,

2027
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:07,760
Speaker 2: who moved away. She hit me up. She was back

2028
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:09,720
Speaker 2: in town. She was like, Hey, I'm moonlighting at this

2029
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:12,160
Speaker 2: place for a month. Do you want a haircut? I

2030
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:15,720
Speaker 2: was like, God, damn right, I want a haircut. I

2031
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:17,680
Speaker 2: went and she hooked it up. Bro, look at this,

2032
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:20,320
Speaker 2: I mean, and she didn't trim and everything.

2033
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 3: What's the price? Because it's very well done, So what's

2034
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:23,120
Speaker 3: the price.

2035
01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 2: So I think you'd still consider this high. But this

2036
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:29,599
Speaker 2: was better. So haircut and beer trim and then all

2037
01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:32,200
Speaker 2: the accouterment with like you know, the back rubbing, with

2038
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:36,439
Speaker 2: the fucking you know, the machine whatever, and then the

2039
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:38,599
Speaker 2: towel and everything. The whole thing was one hundred bucks.

2040
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 2: One hundred bucks. H So I'll give him a plug.

2041
01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:54,400
Speaker 2: It's gents out and it's on El Street. El Street

2042
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:57,920
Speaker 2: in Connecticut and the northwest side of town. Go check

2043
01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:01,679
Speaker 2: out gents and uh, you know, there's a lot of great,

2044
01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 2: you know, stylists down there. And she hooked it up.

2045
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 6: Bro.

2046
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 2: I was super I was so fucking pumped when she

2047
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 2: told me she was back in town, because, man, I

2048
01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:10,960
Speaker 2: tell you what, it's hard to get a haircut in

2049
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:13,240
Speaker 2: this town. For a decent price. It's tough. It's tough.

2050
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 3: It's hard to get anything in that town besides grief

2051
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:17,639
Speaker 3: for a decent price.

2052
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 2: Luke.

2053
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 3: Actually, no, grief is expensive too, because anything you're buying

2054
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:24,599
Speaker 3: that area, it's expensive. And then the service workers are

2055
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:27,000
Speaker 3: just going to just no sell the shit out of you. Luke.

2056
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:29,559
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just like, why are people in general

2057
01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 3: and DC so angry?

2058
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:36,439
Speaker 2: They're not, but they don't suffer fools gladly. That's the issue.

2059
01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:39,000
Speaker 2: You want people to suffer fools gladly and they just

2060
01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:43,479
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not likee that's exactly what you do.

2061
01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 2: You roll up there like Michigan j Frog and you're like, guys,

2062
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:50,880
Speaker 2: why do they serve peanuts on airplanes? And everyone's like,

2063
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 2: get the fuck out, loser, No one gives a shit.

2064
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:56,200
Speaker 2: You're like, Wow, what a salty bunch we got here.

2065
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:57,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't think that's what the story is.

2066
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:01,240
Speaker 3: I think you should move, Okay, that's what I think.

2067
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:03,679
Speaker 2: I do think I should. I do think I belong

2068
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:06,599
Speaker 2: to live near the beach. I don't know which beach,

2069
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 2: and I don't want to move to Florida because that's

2070
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:10,800
Speaker 2: going to turn into the land that time forgot as

2071
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:14,400
Speaker 2: they put down radioactive asphalt. But I do want to

2072
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:16,800
Speaker 2: live near the ocean. I think it's better for my

2073
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:18,320
Speaker 2: mental and physical health to do that.

2074
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:21,360
Speaker 3: So I feel the same way about warmth now that

2075
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:23,960
Speaker 3: I have a real winter again after two mild ones, Luke,

2076
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 3: the winter is just kicking me in the in the

2077
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:28,400
Speaker 3: old fuel hole, you know what I mean. I don't

2078
01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 3: know why. Why does winter depression work? What am I

2079
01:37:32,040 --> 01:37:32,599
Speaker 3: upset about?

2080
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:33,080
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2081
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:34,880
Speaker 3: But it's dark and it's lonely, Luke.

2082
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:37,679
Speaker 2: It's dark and hell is hot. DMX told you about

2083
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:39,960
Speaker 2: that in nineteen ninety eight. Don't forget that.

2084
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 3: First that first record was so good, so good.

2085
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:44,200
Speaker 2: Second record was good too.

2086
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 3: I owned it. It was good. It was good. It

2087
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:49,360
Speaker 3: wasn't on that level, but it was good. Yeah. Wow, man.

2088
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:51,960
Speaker 3: You know what my when I was in my twenties,

2089
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:54,240
Speaker 3: my roommate worked at a cell phone store, so he

2090
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 3: was able to access everyone in the country that owned

2091
01:37:57,200 --> 01:37:59,479
Speaker 3: a Verizon phone. So we would go through there and

2092
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:02,040
Speaker 3: find name that could be celebrities, and then we'd call

2093
01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:03,880
Speaker 3: them late at night when we were all messed up, Luke,

2094
01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 3: and we talked to DMX one day. We talked to

2095
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:08,639
Speaker 3: Pedro Martinez, we talked to Turk Wendel.

2096
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:11,920
Speaker 2: What profoundly illegal?

2097
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:14,639
Speaker 3: Oh of course it is, Luke. But that's what we did,

2098
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:16,200
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? I had this giant orange

2099
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:18,360
Speaker 3: bong too, and then we just call these people up

2100
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:20,680
Speaker 3: and you know, it was it was you know, it

2101
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:22,160
Speaker 3: was fun back in.

2102
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:24,120
Speaker 2: The day, back in the day.

2103
01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:26,040
Speaker 3: Were you a big prank caller back in the day

2104
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:26,519
Speaker 3: before caller?

2105
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:28,559
Speaker 2: We can we can end the show here. Yeah, we're good.

2106
01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:30,639
Speaker 2: This is this is the end of the line. We've

2107
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 2: reached it, all right.

2108
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:34,160
Speaker 3: Mikey does have one more question, Luke, do you get

2109
01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:36,200
Speaker 3: your haircut at the same place as Robert Kraft?

2110
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:39,200
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I don't. Or it was Orchids

2111
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:41,519
Speaker 2: of Asia something like that. Yeah, I forget exactly what

2112
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:45,519
Speaker 2: it's called. But no, no, it's gents on Connecticut and

2113
01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 2: l basically.

2114
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:49,799
Speaker 3: And Mikey claims you're missing out because Florida is the best.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's not. Yeah it's not. Yeah, radioactive asphalt. I'm

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Speaker 2: good on that. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: All right, joy the fights this weekend, folks, Uh hit

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Speaker 3: us up if you have ideas for Okay, don't.

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Speaker 2: Forget three pm, three PM.

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Speaker 3: Do we Cooper three pm today Dewey Cooper, the striking

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Speaker 3: coach of One Francis and Ganu. By the way, do

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Speaker 3: you see Eric quickly? Final thing? Eric Nick six post

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Speaker 3: on Instagram about in Ganu blessing him with this like

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Speaker 3: milk boy bag that changed his life. That's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hit him up about that. And dude, he's

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Speaker 2: gonna get another one because of the Anthony Joshua fight. Dude,

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Speaker 2: between those two fights, what do you think he's pulling in?

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Speaker 2: I honestly think somewhere between thirty and forty million, maybe more.

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Speaker 3: In God, the people say he only made ten for

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Speaker 3: the for the.

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Speaker 2: No, that's not true. Ten was the baseline. I know

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Speaker 2: for a fact he made higher than that. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: that's not true.

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Speaker 3: Way to go, Way to go, Frank Francis. Congratulations all

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Speaker 3: right for Mikey Mormle on the ones and twos there,

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Speaker 3: Thank you guys for taking it for watching us. We

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Speaker 3: appreciate that. Like and subscribe by our merch at Morningcombat

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Speaker 3: Dot store all that good stuff. Yeah, that's Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 3: This is your boy BC. Take care of yourselves up here, guys.

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Speaker 3: We're big fans of you, we'll see you later, we'll

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Speaker 3: see you on Monday. Let's do it.