1 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: Take a deep breath in through your nose. 2 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: Hold it. 3 00:00:36,720 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: Now, release slowly again, deep in, helle hold release, repeating 4 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: internally to yourself as you connect to my voice. I 5 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: am deeply, deeply well. I am deeply well. I am 6 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: deeply wow. I'm Debbie Brown and this is the Deeply 7 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: Well Podcast. Welcome to Deeply Well, a soft place to 8 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: land in your journey. A podcast for those that are curious, creative, 9 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: and ready to expand in higher consciousness and self care. 10 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: This is where we heal, this is where we become. 11 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: Welcome back to this show. Hello, everyone, settling into this space. 12 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: I'm Debbie Brown. This is Deeply Well, and this episode 13 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: is just you and me. We are going to dive 14 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: deep into a couple of things that I've been thinking 15 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: about and a couple experiences that we've been having, and 16 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: we will close this episode in a very light, grounded 17 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: breath meditative practice. Wherever this episode is reaching you today, 18 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: I hope that your heart is full, and if it 19 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: is not, I hope that it's open, open to release, 20 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: open to receive. All Right, I want to talk about 21 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: a couple things that have been happening in the world. 22 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: One of those things that has taken this world by 23 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: storm in a way that I really was not expecting. 24 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 1: There's been some beef afoot so I know everyone has 25 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: heard about this Kendrick, Lamar the Goat and. 26 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 2: Drake big beef, big beef energy. 27 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: I not just big beef energy, but where it landed, 28 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: especially with some of the records like Family Matters and 29 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: Meet the Grams. I mean, we have crossed the line 30 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: from beef into sworn enemy territory. The way that that 31 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: situation has been unfolding. I was looking at it and 32 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: I was like, my goodness, this is now turned into 33 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: something for the lineage. This is now turned into, you know, 34 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: a karmic kind of experience that they may find them 35 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: selves battling for a few lifetimes. We saw it in 36 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: this lifetime on records, and next lifetime it might be 37 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: on a battlefield, it might be David and Goliath, it 38 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: might be all kinds of things. It's been really interesting 39 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: to watch the way the world has been unpacking this 40 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,679 Speaker 1: situation and been unpacking the music. I mean goes without 41 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: saying Team Kendrick all day, one hundred and one hundred 42 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: million percent. I don't know how to make that even 43 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: more concrete. Team Kendrick all day, all day and night, 44 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: I've been watching. I look at everything kind of through 45 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: symbolism and just through kind of like what is the 46 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: bigger arc Like, what is the bigger plot, what is 47 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: the bigger archetype that is coming through and whatever individuals 48 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: I'm observing, And you know, in the situation with Drake 49 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: and Kendrick, it's been really fascinating to see. And all 50 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: of this is one million percent my own opinion based 51 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: on the way I uniquely see the world and experience 52 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: the world. And you know, I had the vantage point 53 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: of previously working within the music industry and working within radio, 54 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: and I was a fly on a wall for the 55 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: beginning of both of their careers. I remember it like 56 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: it was absolutely yesterday. I'll never forget the first time 57 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: I heard So Far Gone, which was a monumental, impeccable, 58 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: incredible project. And I remember at the time, I was 59 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: on the radio and I got suspended because I believed 60 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: in that Drake mixtape so much that I secretly programmed 61 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: it into overnights and played the records, and none of 62 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: the records were cleared. And Drake at that time, if 63 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: you googled him, nothing actually came up, but I remember 64 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: being so incredibly moved by that project and by his 65 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: talent and his gifts and his writing and everything that 66 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: was talked about on that project just felt so resonant 67 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: to where I was in life, and it was incredibly inspiring. 68 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: So that was kind of my first experience of Drake 69 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: and I was at his very first show that he 70 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: ever did, which was at kel State LA. I believe 71 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: his first LA show was at a college and the auditorium, 72 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: and I remember being at that show, and you know, 73 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: and on the flip side of that, Ka Dot one 74 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: of the best to ever do it. LA's anointed son, 75 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: one of the most gifted, incredible artists and people that 76 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: we have in this lifetime and in this generation. One 77 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: of the first projects I loved from Kid was the 78 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar EP, which I don't even know if that's 79 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: like accessible or findable anywhere, but I remember watching Kendrick 80 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: start to make music and watching him begin to embody 81 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: his artistry in LA, very very very young. One of 82 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: my earliest memories of his art was actually being at 83 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: this teeny tiny, tiny tiny show. There might have been 84 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: fifty people there in Long Beach in a bar and 85 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: Jay Rock was actually performing shout out to Jay Rock, 86 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: and Kendrick was his hype man for the performance. And 87 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: I remember, even in that moment, there was a light 88 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: that shined on his life that was so indescribable. And 89 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: I remember after Kendrick lamar Ep dropped, I think he 90 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: dropped something else and then overly dedicated hit. And I remember, 91 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: in that timeframe before anyone else in the rest of 92 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: the country knew who he was, just in LA. I 93 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: remember watching men, women and children weep seeing him. 94 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: I remember the. 95 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: Way that project swept like a blaze through Los Angeles, 96 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: reigniting music in LA, reigniting culture in LA, but speaking 97 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: to things in a way that had never been done, 98 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: especially from an LA artist. And like I just I treasure, 99 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: I treasure those memories. It was an exceptional thing to witness. 100 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: It was incredibly special. But I say all that to 101 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: say it speaks to the depth of who he is 102 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: as a being. 103 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: It speaks to the depth of. 104 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: The way that his mind operates, and it speaks to 105 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: the depth of his service and the way that I 106 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: was observing this beef as I slowly make my way 107 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: down this trail. It was really interesting to me. And again, 108 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: I don't wish to say any of this in judgment 109 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: because I have a lot of a lot of respect 110 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: for Drake's talent, and as I stated earlier, I was 111 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: a huge fan from the beginning of his talent and 112 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: the way he put music together. So I don't want 113 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: to disregard that or downplay that. But when I watch 114 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: the Kendrick and Drake beef, I see two things. I 115 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: see misogyny, I see capitalism. I see materialism. I see surface, 116 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: I see privilege, I see vacancy. I see an emptiness 117 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: in Drake's music. That is my personal opinion, which is 118 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: not to say that it doesn't bop, which is not 119 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: to say that is not extremely danceable and that it 120 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: sounds great in the car. But when I think about 121 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: the things being said, it feels like fast food. It 122 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: feels to me like things that I, as a woman, 123 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: as an awakened being, am not interested in. I'm as 124 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: a listener tired of hearing about women being mistreated in 125 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: his music. I'm tired of hearing about partying on every 126 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: single song, or you know, being liked or you know, 127 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: it's so egoic and so empty to me when I 128 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: see and hear a voice like Kendricks. I see someone 129 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 1: who every single album has been so incredibly meticulously thoughtful 130 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: about the level of impact that they're having about song construction, 131 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: about layers, about melody, about lyrics, about higher awareness, about healing. 132 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: And I do understand that that kind of music isn't 133 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: always for everyone, depending on where you're at in your 134 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: life and your journey. And I think that's part of 135 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 1: what the dynamic of music does in our world and 136 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: our society. It soothes us, sometimes it kind of satiates 137 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: and pacifies us, and sometimes it activates us and enlivens 138 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: us and brings forward revolution or brings forward an opportunity 139 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: to release, to feel, to heal. And so watching that battle, 140 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: to me was kind of like it was already unequally 141 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: yoked because they are just so incredibly different, even though 142 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: they both are incredibly talented. But watching it, hearing it unfold, 143 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, it was kind of this, this Yen and 144 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: Yong fight. I want to get into the simplest and 145 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: I want to get into the depth of it. You know, 146 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: it felt like light and shadow. It also felt like, 147 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: just like Yin and Yong, within light and shadow is 148 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: further light and shadow. There's light in the dark and 149 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: there's shadow in the light, and I think we saw 150 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: a lot of that coming together. Some of the things 151 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: that Kendrick brought up and what he was saying is 152 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: incredibly powerful and important, and they're things that we should 153 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: all be thinking about. I'm not someone that believes that 154 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: you can separate the art and the artist, at least 155 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: not while they're living. I think there's a lot more 156 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: room for some subtexts and nuance and you know, different 157 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: ways that you can kind of look back at history 158 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: and say, oh, that person was maybe caught up in 159 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: you know, the zeitgeist of the time, or they didn't 160 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: have higher awareness, but God moved through them in this 161 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: other capacity. There might be room for that at some point. 162 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: But I'm not someone that can do that. I can't 163 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: listen to R Kelly period. I can't. It wouldn't feel 164 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: good to my soul. As good as his music is, 165 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: not to say his music is an incredible it is. 166 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: He's gifted, and I don't want that in my body. 167 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: I don't want that in my ears. And so that's 168 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: kind of how I look at music in general now, 169 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: Like even stuff that sounds really good. And mind you, 170 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: I grew up in the generation that sang along to 171 00:12:55,679 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: Ain't No Fun, one of the most horrifying records of 172 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: all time, and I know it by heart. 173 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 2: I can't help it. 174 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: But when I look at what I get to choose now, 175 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: I make a lot of different choices with music. And so, 176 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: you know, the Drake and the Kendrick situation, to me, 177 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: was so illustrative of the dynamic that is always kind 178 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: of a parent whether you were going to get caught 179 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: up in what pacifies you or you're going to get 180 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: caught up and what helps you feel and what makes 181 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: you feel. And so yeah, I thought, you know, the 182 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: latter two records that they did were tough to hear, 183 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: to be quite honest, as a fan, but also it 184 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,479 Speaker 1: was showing a dynamic that I think is really important. 185 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: I'm not here to diagnose anybody, and you know, we 186 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: all have opinions and all the things, but there was 187 00:13:54,960 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 1: a certain level of that was being called out in 188 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: Kendrick's song that I don't think just applies to Drake. 189 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: I think it applies to a lot of people, and 190 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: it is this air of narcissism and this lack of 191 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: any social responsibility, and as someone that grew up in 192 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and as someone that has had a very 193 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: complex lived experience, and as someone that has that served 194 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: that that has worked in the community in various ways 195 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: over my entire career and adult life and child life. 196 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: There were some things that really bothered me about the 197 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: way that Drake approached this rap battle because it felt 198 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: like he was making fun of people that have trauma, 199 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: and it felt like he was making fun of. 200 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 2: LA culture, which. 201 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: In theory I understand if you don't have a deeper understanding. 202 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: Of the world. 203 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: LA culture is so deserving of reverence. And I don't 204 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: just mean the culture that you see on TV, right 205 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: And I'm not just talking about these hood glorified films 206 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: like Menaces Society or Boys in the Hood or you 207 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: know whatever. And I'm not talking about Hollywood, and I'm 208 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: not talking about Shaws of Sunset and the Kardashians and 209 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: all the things. I'm talking about the fact that Crack 210 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: hit Los Angeles and was put in Los Angeles in 211 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: underserved communities, and it changed the fabric and the structure 212 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: of black and brown households forever. It changed everything about 213 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: the dynamic of what existed in La from family homes 214 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: to you know, real community, into the riots and into 215 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: the crack epidemic and into mass incarceration, and into people 216 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: who had no other choice but to be a part 217 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: of In some areas, a lot of broken families and 218 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: a lot of possibilities were limited in people's lives when 219 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: these things happened. And around that, there were so many 220 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: responses and there were so many new creations and ways 221 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: of being because of it that we continue to battle against. 222 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: And so for someone that grew up incredibly privileged, who 223 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: has said so themselves in various interviews, who grew up 224 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: in a majority white environment in upper middle class areas, 225 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: television star as a kid, access to great education, and 226 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: none of these things are wrong, and all of these 227 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: things are things that everyone really deserves, safety, right, privilege, access, love. 228 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: But to come from that vantage point and speak to 229 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: someone else who they themselves and their family system and 230 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: their greater community had to serve vibe so much to 231 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: exist and still made art and still shows up in 232 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: service and still gives back and still makes music to 233 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: help people. For someone that comes from so much privilege 234 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: and excess and gluttony and fame and over consumption, from women, 235 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: to food, to alcohol, to whatever the things that are 236 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: said in the songs, to poke fun through mimicking vocal 237 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: tones and mimicking accents, to mimicking ways of life and 238 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: hierarchical structures that are present in certain communities in La 239 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: and then to in their final song and actually get 240 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: it really wrong, misinterpret a deep song to try to 241 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: make fun of the trans community and of community that 242 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 1: has survived childhood sexual abuse. It's just outrageous. It's insane. 243 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: It's bizarre how tone Death Drake is to the rest 244 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: of the world and to the suffering that people experience, 245 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: and to even the line about you know, always rapping 246 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: like you're trying to free the slaves. I mean, I pray, 247 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: so if there are slaves they then we should all 248 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: be trying to free them, Like what do you mean? 249 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: So there were just so many things that to me 250 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: not just highlighted Kendrick's superiority in terms of lyrical ability, 251 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: in terms of emotional understanding, his superiority and consciousness, spiritual understanding, 252 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: intellectual understanding, emotional understanding, but it just really highlighted to 253 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: me how much we celebrate, make rich and like edify 254 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: people who have a severe deficit and the way they 255 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: understand the world and the way they understand themselves in 256 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: the way that they understand other people. And I think 257 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: fundamentally it's a massive issue that we have always based 258 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: in society. It is this pedestaline of people without questioning character. 259 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 1: And I'm not going to speak to any of you know, 260 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: the allegations or the things that were specifically said about 261 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 1: him and how he relates to women and women of 262 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: certain ages, But what I will say is, without even 263 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: needing to do that, the contrast is so apparent, and 264 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: so you know, when I think of like now, of 265 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 1: course it's dialed down to like what side are you 266 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: on and who do you pick? It's less about the 267 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: two of them as men, and for me, it's more 268 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: about the greater story being told in the greater concepts 269 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: that are being made available to us by witnessing that 270 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: kind of epic battle unfold and why we are talking 271 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: about it and should be talking about it, which is 272 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: what is your real responsibility to the world when you 273 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: have that much fame, that much access, and that much wealth. 274 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: Drake very well and very clearly understands the power that 275 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: he holds because of his fame and his talent and 276 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 1: his wealth, and I don't believe he uses it to 277 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: do anything other than edify himself and his own ego. 278 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: And I don't respect that. I don't like that. I 279 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: have a problem with that. And obviously he can still 280 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: do what he wants and make music and there will 281 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,239 Speaker 1: still be millions upon millions of people that fund it 282 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: and that love it, and that's fine, but we need 283 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: to be looking at that. This isn't just a lyrical battle. 284 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: This isn't just two guys that quote unquote have beef right. 285 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: This isn't jay Z and Nas. This is like us 286 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 1: really looking at what are we worshiping. Where are we 287 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: giving away power? Where are we making ourselves weaker? Where 288 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:09,719 Speaker 1: are we empowering other people to cause harm? And I 289 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: just think it's really really important to think of it 290 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: in that context. I was talking to a friend, and 291 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: I was in so many group chats on this. One 292 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 1: of the friends that I was talking to, you know, 293 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: I think we were I mean, God, we were going 294 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: at it like we were going at it so hard, 295 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 1: and I was just like, I'm not going to continue 296 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 1: to talk to you about this unless you read all 297 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: the lyrics of this song and spend time trying to 298 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: see the fifteen different meanings behind every word. It's profound, 299 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: it's special. Something moves through k Dot that is incredibly 300 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: rare and valuable, and I'm grateful for the way he 301 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: has used his life and used his gifts. And as 302 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: we're kind of debating about everything, finally like after uh, they. 303 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 2: Not like us, they not like us, they not like us. 304 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: After that came out, which is just such an exceptional record, 305 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: my friend just said, well, it doesn't matter to me anyway, 306 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: because I don't know either of them, so I don't 307 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: care about either of them. And something about when they 308 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: said that like kind of shocked me in my body, 309 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: and I was like, you don't you don't care about Kendrick, 310 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: And they said, no, I don't know either of them, 311 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: so I don't care. I get that, right, Like I 312 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: get that, like not to take it all so personally, 313 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: and I'm biased because I know Kendrick and I love Kendrick, 314 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: so I'm biased. 315 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 2: I get that. 316 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: But to me, it said, you don't really see what 317 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: he's done for people. You don't really see what his 318 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: music has done for people and what it means to 319 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: the world, whether. 320 00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 2: You know him or not, I believe. 321 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: He should care about him because he's been impacted by 322 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: his work, and his work looks and seeks to uplift others, 323 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: you know. So it's so much more about like who 324 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: do you choose and what's right or wrong? And you 325 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: know is it I like club records and I like 326 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,239 Speaker 1: deep thinking records, And it's more about what what are 327 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,959 Speaker 1: the people that we're debating about doing for the world. 328 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: What are people were debating about do for anyone other 329 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: than themselves? And we should be requiring more from the 330 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: people in positions of power and wealth, whether that is 331 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: an artist, whether that is a rapper, whether that is whoever. Yes, 332 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: they're giving us their art, Yes, you know that transaction 333 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: is complete. But when we have people that actually push 334 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: themselves to do more than they ever need to do 335 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: and they are doing God's work, absolutely we need to 336 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: care about them. We need to care about their lives. 337 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: So I don't know, that's my take. You might be 338 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: listening to this and think I'm being a bit extreme, 339 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: and I will take that because I am biased. I'm 340 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: from Los Angeles, and I have an immense amount of 341 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: love and respect for Kendrick and everything that he stands 342 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: for and everything that he's accomplished. But I think it's 343 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: just kind of indicative of some of the bigger things 344 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: that we're exploring right now. There are bigger themes that 345 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: play within our collective consciousness and within the. 346 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 2: Way that we. 347 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: Approach the world and the way that we put people 348 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: in power, and whether that is governmental power or that's 349 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: just power in terms of popularity, we should be expecting 350 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: and requiring that people have integrity and they have character, 351 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: and that they don't cause harm at the bare minimum, 352 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:58,239 Speaker 1: at the bare minimum, at the bare minimum deeply. Well, 353 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: So that's my take on that. Kendrick's agoat all day period, 354 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: point blank. All right. So a couple other things that 355 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to pop through that have been 356 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: on my mind. I want to say huge shout out 357 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: and thank you to fab Letics as a company and 358 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: as a partner and to. 359 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: Karly at Fabletics. 360 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: I had this wonderful chance to kick off their mental 361 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: Health Month with them in the huddles that they do 362 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: in their company, and they have this in absolutely mind blowing, 363 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: incredible campus in la that was really inspiring to be 364 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: at the way they put everything together but we talked 365 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: about workplace well being and I was able to spend 366 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: you know, part of the morning with them and talk 367 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: through self care practices and it was a beautiful conversation. 368 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: Loved loved being with them. But a couple of things 369 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: that I want to highlight from that talk is, you know, 370 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: it's so important to be as an intentional about the 371 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: way that we care for ourselves as it is the 372 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: way that we are intentional about our purpose and about 373 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: the work that we do. I see a lot of people, 374 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: and this is so good and so necessary kind of 375 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: very intricately plot out their journey and the way that 376 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: they want to experience it. In career, right, we have 377 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: certain milestones that we hit, I'm going to do this, 378 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to do this, I'm going to work my 379 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: way up, I'm going to do this, And a lot 380 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,959 Speaker 1: of that is just so constantly present in everyone's minds 381 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: and the way that they approach things. Yet when it 382 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: comes to taking care of ourselves, we think that just 383 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: a few minutes of thought, it's just too much and 384 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: it's too overwhelming and is it really going to do anything? 385 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: And does it really matter? But if we could put 386 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: that same level of intention and thought towards the way 387 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: that we are looking to be on a trajectory of 388 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: self growth, a way that we will give ourselves the 389 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: patience and the space to become ourselves. You know, when 390 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: we're looking for a promotion, we might be really honest 391 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: with ourselves and say, oh, okay, that's my goal for 392 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: the next two years is to get to this or 393 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: to make this amount of money by this age, and then. 394 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 2: We give ourselves the grace. 395 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: And the space to rise and become whatever it takes 396 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: to get to that final goal. And we don't really 397 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: often some don't often approach personal self work, healing, growth, transformation, 398 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: or at the base level self care with that same 399 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: level of grace and intention. And if we could just 400 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: kind of switch that lens a little bit, I think 401 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: we could be really benefited by it. Because you have 402 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: the skill, you have the ability. We're just applying it 403 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: to other things. But what would happen in our lives 404 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: and our bodies and our homes if we imply that 405 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: same level of intention and the way that we want 406 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: to show up with our families and in the way 407 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: we want to show up with ourselves and our privacy 408 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: and our private lives. So just something to think about 409 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: and if you get a chance later this week as 410 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: this episode wraps, think about that a little bit more deeply. 411 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: You know, what is a way that you approach your 412 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: life with high intention, with high discernment, with a lot 413 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: of kind of active participation, And is there a way 414 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: that you can reverse engineer that and do that also 415 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: for your heart and for your personal growth and for 416 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: the ways that you wish to show up and impact 417 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: your spiritual curriculum and the greater work that you do 418 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 1: in the world. Just something to think about before we 419 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: head out in case my son ever discovers this episode 420 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: in the future. Happy birthday to my dearest boy Quest Mandela, 421 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 1: who just turned six in May. And you are an 422 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: exquisite child and I'm so grateful to know you and 423 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful to love you. It is an honor 424 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: and happy birthday to me because I've been a mom 425 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: for six years. I can't believe it. 426 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: Dear God, thank you, thank you. 427 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: I want to shout out nausea from Yoga Littles, who 428 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: did a phenomenal job of just coming to my son's 429 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: birthday party with him and his kinder classmates and they 430 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: did this incredible yoga activity for the whole afternoon that 431 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: she created just for him, and it was called it 432 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: was a Yoshi themed birthday party we had from Mario 433 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: and it was. 434 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 2: Called Quest Yoga Yoshi. 435 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: I hope I'm saying that right. 436 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: It was so cute. 437 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: They did yoga, they did like this scavenger this mindfulness 438 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: scavenger hunt, and all the kids, which really kind of 439 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: surprised me, and all the parents were so into it 440 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: and were just like instantly connected. And it also just 441 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: speaks to the power and the excellence of Nausea as 442 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: a teacher and her company in the way that they 443 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: formulate all these processes. 444 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 2: So they are. 445 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: Based in La Yoga littles checking out on Instagram and 446 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: in the world. But big love and reverence for usus 447 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: for that and for your gifts. And I also want 448 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: to shout out everybody that I had a chance to 449 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: meet in Atlanta at the podcast festival. Black Effect and 450 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: iHeart had their second annual podcast festival. It was incredible. 451 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: I had an incredible time for a few different reasons. 452 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: And I had a really special time hitting the stage 453 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: for my live episode that I had a chance to do. 454 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: So I want to say a big thank you to 455 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: doctor Joy Harden Bradford Therapy for Black Girls. I've been 456 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: blessed to have around the podcast a few times, so 457 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: look back for earlier episodes. And also to my dear 458 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: friend John Hope Bryant, who also now has a financial 459 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: podcast on this network and he is just, I mean, 460 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: an absolute leader beast in the financial and philanthropic worlds 461 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: and in the space of really social and civil rights. 462 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 2: So please check out both of. 463 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: Them if you are not already familiar, because they do 464 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,959 Speaker 1: incredibly impactful work in this world and lead with just 465 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of love and integrity and excellence. And 466 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for them for joining us at the 467 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: podcast festival. So I have a couple of recaps on 468 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: my Instagram. You can check it out at Debbie Brown. 469 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: You can check out some videos from that day and 470 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: some pics and all the things. As always, thank you 471 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: for listening. And let's just take a few deep breaths here, 472 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: and I want to invite everyone, if it's safe and 473 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: comfortable wherever you are, to take a deep breath in 474 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: through your nose. Just hold it for a second after 475 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: belly in your chest are filled and do a slow, 476 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: full release. We'll do that two more times here, deep 477 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: in hell, through your nose, filling your belly, first, rising 478 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: to your chest, expanding, hold the breath and release, and 479 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: again deep in Hell. Hold release and bring your hand 480 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: to the center of your heart if it feels comfortable. 481 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: And I want you to come deeply into the presence 482 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: of your own body, of your own wisdom, of your 483 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: own lived experience, And I want you to think about 484 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: the way you show up for yourself and your life 485 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: and just hold that there for a second. Whatever thoughts 486 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: are populating that beautiful brain, I want you to take 487 00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: a moment to think about how you experience other people 488 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: that you pay attention to and consume. Maybe that's on 489 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: social media, maybe that's with music, maybe that's in your workspace. 490 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: But I want you to just notice who do you 491 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: have your eyes on, Who are you aware of, Who 492 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: do you find yourself observing, consuming, participating with, and as 493 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: whatever names those are, whatever experiences those are, begin to 494 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: kind of gently flood into your awareness. I want you 495 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: to just put a little bit of a pen in them, 496 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: a little bookmark there, and I want you to set 497 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: the intention to look at them and to look at 498 00:33:53,320 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: yourself with a cleansed lens, a cleanse lens of perception, 499 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: and I want you to start thinking what attracts you 500 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: to them, what attracts you to their work, what attracts 501 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 1: you to their style of being? And is there room 502 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: to look at it a little bit more deeply and 503 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 1: see if there is another pattern at play, whatever that 504 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: may be, and see if the people that you have 505 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: been connecting to in that way, if they still represent 506 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: the best choice for you. Is there opportunity to kind 507 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: of maybe now switch up some of the things that 508 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: you think about and consume based on where you are 509 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: on your journey and your level of consciousness. Is there 510 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: may be an opportunity to kind of gently. 511 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 2: Lay off or edit. 512 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: Anythings that maybe don't nourish you or feed you or. 513 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 2: Empower you. 514 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: Just something to think about here. We always have the 515 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 1: opportunity to bring our agreements up for review. And those 516 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: agreements are not just our relationships with other people the 517 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: way we show up for them. It's also with everything 518 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: we put into our lives and experiences. Just like we 519 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: have to think about the things we put in our 520 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: mouths and how it makes us feel and the reactions 521 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: our body has to it when we're on the path 522 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: of higher consciousness, and if there is a little more 523 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: sensitivity to the way you experience people and energy or 524 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: your own healing, it's important to make edits with that 525 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: same level of discernment. You may not have a stomach 526 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: ache because of what you're consuming, but is there a numbness? 527 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 2: Is there a heartache? Is there. 528 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: An exhaustion? And you don't have to judge it or you, 529 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: but just bring it up for a review and you'll 530 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: make the choice for yourself. Another deep breath here, deep 531 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: breath in through your nose, hold and release. Thank you 532 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: for joining me for this episode. Let me know what 533 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: you think. Hit me on Instagram at wi Brown, tag 534 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: me in a post, send me a DM, leave a comment. 535 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: Much love, Always not mistake. The content presented on Deeply 536 00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: Wells serves solely for educational and informational purposes. 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