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Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue,

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Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Marking Craig Wasserman the Pot Brothers at Law.

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Speaker 1: We're the world's number one podcast for everything cannabis. Hello

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Speaker 1: and welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one Monday's Blue

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Speaker 1: Alongside of Me is the world famous Joe Grande. Ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, it took pleasure and Mr world Famous Craig

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Speaker 1: Wasserman from The Pot Brothers out Law missing today as Mr.

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Speaker 1: Little Brother. We do miss him as he's out there

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Speaker 1: surfing in We're gonna He's surfing. I seen him with

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Speaker 1: the shirt off yesterday. He had his shirt off. He

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Speaker 1: was trying to go live with the shirt off. People

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Speaker 1: calling him cast for the Friendly Joe and they said

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Speaker 1: he had a machette and all kinds of uh like,

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Speaker 1: I think he's got a machete under those shorts. There

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Speaker 1: was fun either way. We have a big brother here

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Speaker 1: Make sure you go check us out. And today on

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Speaker 1: the show, we have a brother from Oakland who I

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Speaker 1: love like my own brother. We've never slapped hands, or

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Speaker 1: maybe we did back in the day, but I was

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Speaker 1: so high and maybe we're at the sound factor of

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Speaker 1: somewhere else and I can't recall. But Tucky Blunt a

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Speaker 1: k A. Government name Alfonso. He's the co owner of

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Speaker 1: Blunts and More and Proud Papa's Clothing. Now, this is

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Speaker 1: what's dope about this cat. He's the first person to

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Speaker 1: open a dispensary in Oakland under the Social Equity Act.

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Speaker 1: And if if I'm not mistaken, is it Oakland? Are

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Speaker 1: the world the world? Yes, the first person in the

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Speaker 1: world open. We're gonna get to that story. If you

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Speaker 1: want to check them out on Instagram it's Tucky Blunt

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Speaker 1: eighty on Twitter Blunt Tucky. Um, we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: black ownership in cannabis and and welcome to Cannabis Talk

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Speaker 1: one oh one sir. How you doing, brother man man,

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Speaker 1: thank you for having me. It's honor and a privilege.

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Speaker 1: So I'm great. I'm a static. Actually, it's really good.

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Speaker 1: I've loved seeing you interview with our brother sway and

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Speaker 1: doing your thing there and all over the globe, getting

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Speaker 1: all your national recognition. But one thing off top is,

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Speaker 1: you know you get popped back in the day, and

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Speaker 1: to be a social equity owner you have to have

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Speaker 1: a criminal record. When I did the research, John, you

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Speaker 1: dog to think you got busted for eighty dollars. We're

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Speaker 1: the weed man. That's what gave me the record. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about that. Um So that particular day, had they

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Speaker 1: but um, I was getting back from the shooting range.

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Speaker 1: I had a thing that I would do um three

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Speaker 1: how would have even I would have never got caught.

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Speaker 1: I would never qualified as an equity candidate because I

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Speaker 1: had been selling weed for nine years with no police interaction.

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Speaker 1: Because of how I sold my weed, I was never

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Speaker 1: I worked, so right, right, A lot of people do

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Speaker 1: I believe you guys do donations and and you know

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Speaker 1: Proud Papas was something I started in two thousand and

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Speaker 1: I do about that? Created proud papas made a silhouette?

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Speaker 1: on one, we are with Tuckie Blunt. Tucky Blunts. Tucky

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Speaker 1: Blunts like he k Hey Sen. You are on a

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Speaker 1: up to you and said Tucky Blunt helped me off, HANSO,

427
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,680
Speaker 1: what do I need to do? So break down for

428
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 1: the listener that's out there, that's going damn, I got

429
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 1: a record. People are approaching me or I want to

430
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 1: get in the game, lace us up. Okay, So give

431
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: me a minute, because this is like a couple of parted.

432
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:49,439
Speaker 1: Answer one, as far as everybody getting reform, everybody get

433
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,400
Speaker 1: out of jail for cannabis has to happen. They gotta

434
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 1: get out. But that also comes with us voting in

435
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: the right elections and not just in the ones we

436
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,919
Speaker 1: think we posed a voting. You gotta vote for your

437
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 1: city council and the years and people have to understand

438
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 1: that the bottom up, all people, black, white, pink, whatever,

439
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 1: we all have to do that for wherever we vocus.

440
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 1: By time he gets to the presidential too late, even

441
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: though you still gotta vote, but by then, of this

442
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 1: is already made. You know what I'm saying's kind of

443
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: like whatever, Well, that's part of it too. If you

444
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 1: want to get in this space, really want to be

445
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 1: in this space. What I mean by that is, yeah,

446
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 1: free everybody that's been locked up for it. But do

447
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 1: I want everybody's locked up for to come into the

448
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: space and they're really not gonna approach this like a business,

449
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 1: Then suck it up, get closed, lose money, going dead,

450
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 1: and then that's gonna be what the rest of the

451
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 1: community talks about. Look at that black person in the

452
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 1: cannabis space. We told you this was gonna happen. So

453
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 1: if you are going to get into space, go to

454
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 1: your oakster damns, get your learning, get your certificates, you know,

455
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 1: reach out and get training on the field you want

456
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 1: to be in. But also don't come in here thinking

457
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna open a dispensary, and everyone's gonna grow weak.

458
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: One or two of the hardest things to do in

459
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: the cannabis space anywhere, whether it's legal or illegals, grow

460
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: weed and sale weed. So if you think that you

461
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: could just get into that, don't. Don't. Don't come in

462
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: expecting to get into that. No. I not like to

463
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: kill anyone's dreams, but you have to be real. Like

464
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: everyone wants to go on sale. That's the main question

465
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: I get, Like, can we grow and see? No, everyone

466
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: can't grow and sale. Learn how to make the lights

467
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 1: that go in the dispensaries, I mean, learn how to

468
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 1: do security, learn how to do the deliveries. It's learn

469
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: out of the host podcast about we like, there's other

470
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 1: stuff that you can do. So my main thought when

471
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 1: I tell people they want to get in it is

472
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 1: make sure they really want to get in it. Do

473
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: the train and it takes to be in it, and

474
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,719
Speaker 1: then then we see what happens, you know what I mean.

475
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: But you've got a lot of people are just gonna

476
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 1: get out and jump in the game. I believe that's

477
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 1: gonna sunk us up. It's gonna have a negative effect. Yeah,

478
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: we see that all the time. And it's funny you

479
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: say about dream killing. That's what we called ourselves in

480
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 1: uh in eighteen when the REGs came into play and

481
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: people would come in for a consult about getting into

482
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: the business and they were getting out of the the

483
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: illicit market at that point, or even the legal cooperative

484
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: market back then, and we'd say, look, it's it's a

485
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 1: lot different, you know, eyes wide open. It's just not

486
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: gonna be what you think it is. You can't just

487
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: come in and for you know, twenty grand open up

488
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: a store. You know, you gotta have a half a

489
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: million dollars. You gotta have the business sense, you gotta

490
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 1: have a team, you gotta have a c p A.

491
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: You gotta have the right law, you gotta have the

492
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 1: right compliance team. It's just not as easy as you think.

493
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 1: And uh and we've probably turned away, not turned away,

494
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: probably made more people run away then we've taken in,

495
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 1: as opposed to you know, talking lots of fluff and

496
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 1: just you know, retaining anybody want to pay, guess what,

497
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: and not to cut you off, but guess what, that's

498
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: a good thing because they weren't ready to be in

499
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: the business. That's all all the stuff you named off

500
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 1: are things that you're gonna need to run a successful business.

501
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: So if that runs you off, then you don't need

502
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: to be in this business. It's okay with them. I agree,

503
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: I mean I agree, and and that we we never

504
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: we never the harsh reality. We never wavered from that,

505
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: even though people were willing and there were other attorneys

506
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 1: taking money from people who wanted to get in it

507
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 1: without giving them that eyes wide open talk. And we

508
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: just you know, there's not something we wanted to do

509
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 1: because I didn't want to get into you know, grand

510
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 1: into it and all of a sudden, this isn't gonna happen.

511
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 1: That's not how we you know, how we did things.

512
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: So uh And and then as far as the social

513
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: equity applicants, all of them we've done. I wouldn't say

514
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: pro bono. It's one of the we we've done those

515
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: things where it's if you get successful in this deal,

516
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: you know, take care of us down the road. But

517
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: until then, we're gonna give you the support and backing.

518
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: And we have about six or seven people that we

519
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: chose to work with that otherwise they wouldn't have any

520
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: type of access to legal support or and especially going

521
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: through the operating agreements and all those corporate documents that

522
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 1: all these people were thrown at these guys and they

523
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: had no clue. Well, I think there's a huge garbage

524
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: and most of that, like I have contracts, we have

525
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: like you know, most of that ship it's a bunch

526
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 1: of bullshit. It's like, okay, just like put it in

527
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,479
Speaker 1: a one give me a one page why that's us

528
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: this this this, But you know that's another way to

529
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: throw people off. If you're not willing to read that.

530
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: Oh you may not be willing to do it, sign

531
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: deals that you don't realize have you exed out by

532
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: page three? You know what I'm saying. So that's that's

533
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: the education piece, you know what I'm saying. Like and

534
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: it's it's you. You would think it would be a

535
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: logical thing to do, but again, we are dealing with

536
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: an industry that is being ran by people not in

537
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: the industry. Yeah, they're they're using they're using LLLC membership

538
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: transfer agreements that are pages long with crapping there that

539
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 1: someone else wrote thirty years ago. And they're using the

540
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 1: same goddamn document over and over and over and over.

541
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: I mean, when you come to us, we'll give you

542
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: a one or two page document. Man, you take that

543
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: to them and say if you don't like it, go

544
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: somewhere else. Depends what side of the coin you're on,

545
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: what kind of who's represent people? How hard was that

546
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: to be for you, Chucky Blunt? As we're talking to

547
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 1: Tucky but from Blunts and more dispensary in Oakley? How

548
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: hard was that dealing with the do you need legal representation?

549
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: When you're such a smart cat yourself, you're looking at

550
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: this qua man, I can figure this ship out myself.

551
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: Did you still need to search for legal counsel? Well,

552
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: for us another cold situation, part of our team is

553
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: a legal cannabis counsel UH in Florida, and Ritney's mom

554
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: was a cannabis paralegal, so we had legal attached to

555
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: us from the jump, which worked out. But I always

556
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: had questions. You know what I mean, I don't know

557
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: legal jargon, so I would be looking up words, pulling

558
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: them out the dictionary, seeing what they meant, to find

559
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: them to the page. And then if I had questions,

560
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: I had in house legal. But that's something that I

561
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: feel the city should provide and the city the Technical

562
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: assist Program is ran by attorneys. They're not cannabis attorneys.

563
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 1: It's just like, you know, I think I think what

564
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: happens is is right now with with the social equity,

565
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: you know, because I spoke to a lot of them myself,

566
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: and they were asking for advice and help, and you know,

567
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: I I sat there and and some of them had

568
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: these visions that were unobtainable. So, you know, on on

569
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: one side, I'm like, you know, you can't expect someone

570
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: to drop, you know, ten million dollars on you and

571
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: then let you run the whole ten million dollars right

572
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: without any say so, because that's kind of what it

573
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: what it comes to. And and it's like, you know,

574
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: so that's a scary proposition for for an investor, you know.

575
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I get both sides, but it doesn't mean

576
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: you have to be predatory. I mean the rules of

577
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: no and I agree with not being predatory, but but

578
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: but there should have been you know, doing it the

579
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: proper way. We would have said, hey, if you're gonna

580
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: spend more than of you know, this amount of this

581
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: million dollars, we need to be you know, completely involved

582
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: in it in those decisions. And then if he goes

583
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: above that, then it goes to this next level like

584
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: a tiered sister there he is, Yeah, that the baller. Okay, okay,

585
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: sorry y'all from home, right. Uh So, it's it's just

586
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a trip. You say that about just

587
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: you know how everything is, but it's like, man, it's

588
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: just it's just I don't know, like how can I

589
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: describe how we had to deal with the legal stuff.

590
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: It was just more so just like if you got

591
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: people that you can give some knowledge to and just

592
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: have them understand what they're going into and know their

593
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: worth and know their value, that's just a start, you

594
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's that's that's bare minimums. They

595
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: can be like, okay, cool, You've got some people that

596
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: just are gonna sign a way just they don't care

597
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: and not pay attention. It's money dangling in front of

598
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: them is cool. And these business you know, these sharks

599
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: know that they know that they're gonna find the ones

600
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: that don't care. But what is wrong with you only

601
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: forty percent and still being able to make decisions like

602
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: I don't I don't understand what is the whole majority

603
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: thing with the big companies? If you know that person

604
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: to help get your license up and you can talk

605
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: them into having your name on the store and still

606
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: letting you have something form to control. Most of these

607
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: people with don't want the control and don't want to

608
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: be at the store where I like to be at

609
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: my store and talk to my customers and do all

610
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: the stuff and learn everything about the business. Sean from

611
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: Burning's own, Hey, even Frisco, he wants to be he

612
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: the general manager. He like, he wants to be bad person.

613
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: Some of them don't. There's nothing wrong with you still

614
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: have me your majority and then still doing all the ship.

615
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: Like if these other if these bigger companies can understand that.

616
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: But again we're dealing with people that don't understand hustle.

617
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: They don't understand the wig game. They'll understand none of

618
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: that ship, you know what I'm saying. So they don't

619
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: they're not thinking that for them two percent, it's not

620
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: gonna change anything, because at the end of the day,

621
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: you can write within the contract if you start doing

622
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: stupid ship, we're gonna say stop doing stupid ship three times,

623
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: and then after that we take over. You can put

624
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: ways in there to do what you gotta do, and

625
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: then the person on the other end can throw there,

626
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: you know, go ahead in l A. They can't relinquish

627
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: their ownership to the to the non social equity partner.

628
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: I mean they've the way they've made the rules, it

629
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: makes it really tough on a you know, company that

630
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: wants coming in to invest on Uh. It just like

631
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: like you've been saying, though the people who made up

632
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,719
Speaker 1: all these rules, it sounds good the social equity statard

633
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: that helping people out, but they're not. They're not they're

634
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: not doing it in a way that's really practical and

635
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: how people are gonna come out. And I think I

636
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: really like your angle too as far as if you're

637
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: gonna have these programs, I mean, make sure that it's

638
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: really set up so a black person, person of color

639
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: can be successful, so you don't get that negative stigma

640
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: if something goes down. Like you were saying earlier that

641
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: you just don't want you know, you don't want failures

642
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: because it wasn't done properly. And then you're gonna look,

643
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: we told you waste the money, blah blah blah whatever

644
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: you said earlier. And uh, I think that's really important.

645
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: But the legislators and I like what you said to

646
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: about voting from the city council up, because the city

647
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: council actually is the most the biggest, that's one of

648
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: the most vital pieces of the government. Like I remember

649
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: going to school here about checks and bouncing and known

650
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: legislative from the official frances like you after start at

651
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: the local level to help craft the rest of the tree.

652
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: But I don't I don't know if this is something

653
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: that's toldly all subject, but I think it's something that's

654
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: going on nationwide. We're gonna they're not teaching our kids.

655
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: It's just ignorance of never being able to learn it,

656
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Because it's in cannabis especially

657
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,959
Speaker 1: want to vote, especially especially in California. The uh, everything

658
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: starts at the city level. Right if the city council

659
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: has to have to pass an ordinance allowing for cannabis

660
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: in that city, or the people of the city have

661
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: to pass an initiative, it's the governor or something. So

662
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: we gotta make sure we vote for the governor. No, no, no, yeah,

663
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: you gotta city council people are are they behind the cannabis?

664
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: And we gotta the people out there and vote. We gotta.

665
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: We we got what we call smoke the vote. People

666
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: gotta get out there and vote. Every top hip hop

667
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: artist I've been bitching about this for three years. They

668
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: should be blasted out voting. Go vote for a cannabis

669
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: friendly and and every week on the OH I come

670
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: up with in in some city state, at the city,

671
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: state or federal level. There's all kinds of candidates who

672
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: are coming out in favor of legalizing cannabis in their

673
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: campaign information not hidden in the back, not you know,

674
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,239
Speaker 1: I don't want to really talk about it, but I'm

675
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: for it, but literally, in your face, I'm smoking a

676
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: joint as a candidate. And there's just so many people

677
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: out there like that. We need to get everybody out

678
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: to vote. And I'll get off my host. I can

679
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: speak on the rappers and why some do some don't,

680
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: but I can speak on me. I'll be goddamn. I'm

681
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: gonna do everything in my power so people can see

682
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: people like us are willing to vote, are trying to

683
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: put the right people to office, are willing to talk

684
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: about what needs to be done in the space abo

685
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: putting the right people in the space. I don't have

686
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: no like leash because it's me. I'm being genuinely me,

687
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: And I'm not disrespecting anybody. I'm just calling how it

688
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: needs to be called based on my experience selling cannabis.

689
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: So I was sixteen in East open So a lot

690
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: of my trades, they may come off cool cool or

691
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: he's being an asshole. I don't give a funk because

692
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: the ship has to be said so people can understand,

693
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: like it could be done a certain way and all

694
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: this could be right, and it want to be me.

695
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: I don't have to be doing making. I want to

696
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: get into that East you know East Oakland growing up

697
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: because I'm from the Bay as well, right, so we've

698
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: crossed paths, have mutual friends and growing up in East

699
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: Oakland or Oakland period being black. If you know Oakland,

700
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: you know Grape Street and you know the brothers out there.

701
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: It wasn't Crypts and Bloods, it was Grape Street and

702
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: you know you go to the lake and how did

703
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: you deal with selling weed and that mentality? I mean

704
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: maybe you are a Grape Street I don't know, but

705
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, how do you deal with that? I'm

706
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: from the deep, I'm from the dep so I'm from

707
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: a y um but how it just how I'm moving

708
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: in the game for me was from my daddy. My

709
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: daddy never fun with me in the game, never saw

710
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: we with me until we got grown grown, we don't.

711
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: He never did that. He taught me how to detail cars,

712
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: so I'm in detailing cars for thirty years. It but

713
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: how he sold his weed, I noticed he never went

714
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 1: to jail. How he did that was there was a transaction.

715
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: It was I'm gonna pull up, I'm gonna come in,

716
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna do this transaction. I'm gonna smoke some of

717
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: the weed I just sold you, and then I'm gonna

718
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: go home. So I'm like, well, damn, if I want

719
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: to sell weed, that's how I'm gonna have to do it.

720
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: And then once I started working and realized all of

721
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: my associates that I worked with smoke, it was just

722
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: like I don't need to go to the corner, going

723
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: to the corners. How you get caught up. The reason

724
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: why I got caught up that day and how I

725
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: was out. I was on the turf for about a

726
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: seven month period in between my son being born, I had.

727
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: I was in between jobs, so I was like, let

728
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: you go to the turk, and I never made that

729
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: move to go to the turch. I wasn't talk to

730
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: me you all that, because I would never got came.

731
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: Like I always feel like if I want to sell

732
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 1: we that has a business to go is not get

733
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: caught standing on somebody's corner. It's how you get caught.

734
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: You're you're basically saying, I'm selling this, probably get you know,

735
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm a little jail board, so please come get at

736
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: least I'm selling the behind the closed door in a business,

737
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: in a person whatever, whatever. You know what I'm saying,

738
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: it's my outfit. That's that's how I was that with

739
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: survived and open as a new man and the cookie

740
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: man like people know me for something. We basically to

741
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: two thousand one. So it's just like that's just it's

742
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 1: been moving like that forever. And I always use myself

743
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: as a store a brand in the business. So well,

744
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just it was meant to beat me,

745
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: I guess. So so we're with the elf al Banjo one.

746
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: UM's just all right, keep saying Turkey man, you know

747
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: why because took me tooky what's to do from Churchill? Yeah,

748
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: I didn't taking a turkey Williams. I'm like, are you

749
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: guys related. We'll be right back after this break. Welcome

750
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: back to Canada's Talk. We took you blood right here.

751
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: Blind chokie blind. Oh it's techie. I thought blind. You

752
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: know why. Before we get started, I wanted to give

753
00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: a special thanks to Jeremy Jennifer, Elvis, Chubb, Pena and

754
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: don't forget black guys pit pity my brother guy with

755
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: a black guy. Still bro brother came to work and

756
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: he said he fell in the shower. Yeah, and he

757
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 1: had to cut on his eye with a big old

758
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: not on his eye her finger. Oh, man, don't be

759
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: disrespecting you like that again at home. Yeah, she beat

760
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: up because she was so nice she did. Man. So no,

761
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: it's it's the fun part of the show man. Before

762
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 1: we get into the high five, I want to tell

763
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: you something. You know right now, you've been on you know,

764
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: different podcasts, different you know shows, and different you know outlets.

765
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: Can you talk about some of those outlets that you

766
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: have been on? Who loading uh have been on Sway?

767
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: Like you said, under its good dude, have me out there.

768
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: I went out there for my birthday, so I did

769
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: Sway Karen hand on my birthday, um, which was dope.

770
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: She's like, why are you hearing your birthday? I'm like, man,

771
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: I gotta spread the world whatever day it is. So

772
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: I was great. Um, I've been on because I feel

773
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: like if I'm not willing to come on my birthday,

774
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: that's being stagnant. Like I really need to get this

775
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: message out there to as many people as possible. So again,

776
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: it's an honor pleasant for me to be here, but

777
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: I've done them this year. I've been for Forbes give

778
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: me a feature on four twenty at four twenty with

779
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: a Warren Barbro, the dude. I met him when I

780
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: was in New York as well. UM, I did Black

781
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: Enterprise recently. UM, I'm doing Cannabis Talk one on one

782
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: right now. I'm doing Fox Soul next week. They reached out.

783
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: I've just been I've just been whoever run y'all emails,

784
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: I've seen email. I get up every morning at five

785
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: and sent my bio to somebody, and I'm just persistent

786
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: and you know, trying to get the message out there.

787
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 1: So now, how long have you been doing all these interviews?

788
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: And it's something that kind of just happened or did

789
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: it happen to around you know when you first opened

790
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: in November or it finally it's kind of starting to head. Oh.

791
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: So when we first opened, before we're open and people

792
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: called wind that we were spinning open. People are kind

793
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: of like getting England. But once we opened, we had

794
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: our local coverage and it was just for me. I'm

795
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: our market and department. So I tried to think of

796
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: ways I can market without spending a lot of money

797
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: because we don't have a lot of money. Believe or not.

798
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: Everybody think we're rich. We're not. Um So I tried

799
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: to think of ways to market without spending money and

800
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: ask me, so, if I got to get on the

801
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: plane to go meet somebody to go interview to get

802
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: your bio together, um, I forgot who was I was

803
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: talking to. Um Oh Erica Diaz, she does something called

804
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: a Table of twenty, and she was like, semio bio.

805
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: She honored me and one of her events and I

806
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: had never met before anything, and I was like, I

807
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: don't have a bio. Let me get a bio. And

808
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: that was um in uh like the beginning of two

809
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen and I've just been on ever since. I

810
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: feel like if I haven't sent my bio to five outlets,

811
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: I'm lagging because I need to be on everything that

812
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: that will allow me to be on you know what

813
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: I mean. So probas the I Heart Radio for you know,

814
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: allowing y'all to do that, because my brother works for

815
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: my Heart and at came Yale and he couldn't do nothing.

816
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: All he could do was mention us on air. But

817
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: when I seen I Heart, I'm like, dude, times are changing.

818
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: So I'm just like I said, I'm honored media. It's

819
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: not new to me because I used to be a

820
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: rapper and I used to be on stage a lot.

821
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: I used to throw parties in opening like you know,

822
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: Joe said, I've been around, but I don't mind sharing knowledge.

823
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: So if that means I gotta be the spokesperson for

824
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: my store, yeah that's pre promotion. I don't have to

825
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: pay me, So yeah, man, I used to love going

826
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: to open back in the days when I go to

827
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: East Fourteenth and I go to Flints Barbecue, you know,

828
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: boy oh boy, we would leave high school to go

829
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: get your slap z barbecue. If people have no idea,

830
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: I mean they got Everriden Jones out there, but Flints Barbecue,

831
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: that's the old spot, is the one, is the one ucky.

832
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: Let's get a little flow real quick. We want let's

833
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 1: hear it flow. You're on the four team hanging out, dude,

834
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: I do all right. I put on the spot to

835
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: wrap all right. Let me see, let me see, let

836
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: me see when we need to do it. We got

837
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: all right. I've been to weed man twenty four and

838
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: counting big bags. That's your baby mom about me. You're

839
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: mad and that's really not shocking. LTD in front of

840
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: nanny house, clean as fu knocking. You claim you blowing good,

841
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: but all I smell is gelato. That ship is watered

842
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: down like an off brand Moscotto. I've been blowing good

843
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: since the Red Fence days, Real life Green Forwards. Zip

844
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 1: then plays a hunting made the dose by the wish

845
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: by Me and Bird had a rolling bus in hell

846
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: of knots. Hit me a twin if you wanted to

847
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,959
Speaker 1: for a team, just gotta go from Vehano. I stay

848
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,959
Speaker 1: ready to spend. It never ends. I got a legal turf.

849
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: Now it's full circle. Got niggas like wow. Everybody want

850
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: to ask me how, But I just kept path walking man,

851
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: because that's my style. And I'll leave you with that

852
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: very nice fire right there before we get to the

853
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 1: high five. I want to get your thoughts on black

854
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: ownership in cannabis. What are your thoughts on that? Overall,

855
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: it's vital, um, it's necessary, arry Um. It's a lot

856
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: of us out there, and so we all have to

857
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: get a network together and link up with each other

858
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: so we know who we are and where we are

859
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: within the space. But it's vital. No disrespect to any

860
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 1: other race, but Negroes are the cannabis space. We set

861
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: the trends, we set the prices. We everybody want to

862
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: wear the weed stuff or do the weed. We got

863
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: our white you know, our white friends that do our

864
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: do their thing, you know, but black people run the space,

865
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: and we're not representing this space well at all. And

866
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: we're out here, but we just got you know, it's

867
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: bottle that we speak up and you know, be willing

868
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: to show that we are successful and can be successful

869
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 1: in the space in a space that we should run.

870
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: But they want us to. I feel like it's even

871
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: more minority said, I really look at a lot of

872
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: the farmers if you look back in the day too,

873
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 1: you know, even watching some of the old Kirkquel stuff

874
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: when it went from growing cocaine head and ironically ready

875
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: for this, find Blue who grew up the same way

876
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: as you Blue guy in the game because his dad

877
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: was growing and selling as well. So everything you were

878
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: describing Booze just sitting there going and we've heard this

879
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: story very very sad and weed, so we's just the

880
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: same concept. But my point is you look at the Latins,

881
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: you know, they used to they were growing it out

882
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: in Mexico. They're growing here, the big old bricks of it.

883
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: And then you know, of course the African American community

884
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: is heavy into it too, but it's a more minority base.

885
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: And I do be having to correct myself on that.

886
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm not saying that everything should be black. It

887
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: should be black and brown, and like I said, I

888
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: have had to correct myself on that because we are.

889
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: But the people who you see as the space aren't

890
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: either black or brown. And that's the problem. No, I

891
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: think it's you said it right though, because you know,

892
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: the question was towards you know, black minority owned businesses,

893
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: and so you're referring to your culture, you know. And

894
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: I have to agree with you, though, is my my father,

895
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: you know, was was very similar to yours. Like he

896
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: went to work every day. He was a postal service,

897
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: he was in the Union, you know, a military, you

898
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: know your navy, you know, so heat heat. But he

899
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: always said I'm gonna work and and then on top

900
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: of that, make it my side hustle. It wasn't just

901
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: my hustle, you know. And I think that's the separation

902
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: between some of us that understand more of the business

903
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: side of it versus just the street side of it,

904
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: and a lot of people that are that are in

905
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 1: our communities they only know the street side of it,

906
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: or they kind of know this other side of it,

907
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: whereas someone like ourselves, we were kind of brought up with, hey,

908
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: it's still gotta work, you still gotta hustle. And now

909
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: that it becomes work, now it is the work and

910
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 1: the hustle, and so it's a little more you know,

911
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: easier for us to get into the industry and less

912
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: money to make because less money to make. Yeah, this

913
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: is why I stuff like this is important, just talking

914
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: in the podcast and interviewing and getting the word out

915
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: because people can see if there are people that look

916
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: like them, talk like them, dressed like them, and act

917
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: like an I got suits and ties and all that

918
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: can do all that got the for doors. I used

919
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: to sell we in a for door with shoes that

920
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: made noise at the bottom. Like I used to go

921
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 1: to the turf dress like I was going to a

922
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: goddamn club. So you can talk to me like people

923
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: need to see people like them and be like, damn,

924
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: well if he can do what I can do it, Yeah,

925
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: Like that's what that's what needs to be shown. It's

926
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 1: not just a corporate, you know, white person that's doing

927
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: a successful cannabis space. You've got the out Harrington's you

928
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:24,959
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You got the hope, wise Man's,

929
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: you got the knees, you know what I mean. So

930
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: it's like you can do it. It's just the funny

931
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: thing is most of those corporate white guys who are

932
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: coming in aren't lasting very long. Well, they're spending a lot,

933
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: going crazy. I've been telling you, Madman, springing way too

934
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: much money and they're doing way too much. You don't

935
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: want to listen to me, I think, um, And you

936
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 1: know it's not nothing against them, because I wish everybody.

937
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: I wish everybody's sussess money for everybody, but high time

938
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: trying to buy out all these clubs. Why like, I

939
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna happen. Well, the big deal didn't

940
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: go to They've been trying to buy all those sixteen farms,

941
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: seventeen dispensaries and this and that. It's just like, jeez,

942
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: what do you I just read something today. I didn't

943
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: read the whole article, but I did something did I

944
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: did read something about high times. I think up in

945
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: Oakland maybe a few of the stores they were gonna

946
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: buy is in trouble now because of their corporate structure

947
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: and their ownership changes, and and I don't know. I

948
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: haven't dealt with Oakland's regulations yet. We don't have a

949
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: client in that area as far as storefronts go, so

950
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 1: I don't know what they read into. But the whole

951
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: things on paper stock options, which who knows what they're

952
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: even gonna be whatever. Basically, um, they had bs b

953
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: S paperwork and practices, and like you said, the ownership changes.

954
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: And the thing is the equity program. We are currently

955
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: there's probably be four equity dispensaries open before they just

956
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 1: did the most recent drawing. We're the only one open.

957
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: So did the other sail their licenses? Did they? Are

958
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: they trying to get places and haven't happy yet. We're

959
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 1: talking about we've been open two years, we've had the

960
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: license since the beginning of eighteen, How are no none

961
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: of the other one's open? So they run into that

962
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: because one of the screen stries they were trying to

963
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: buy was one of the ones were an equity owner

964
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: gave or whatever his license or whatever they had going

965
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: on to have a heart. But I don't know if

966
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: it's open yet one and then two. Does that make

967
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: it still a social equity against the rule because or

968
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: is it against the rules because in l A they're

969
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: trying to do all kinds of ship sideways with these corporations.

970
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, when they come

971
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: into my office and I look at the regulations, because

972
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: you can't do that. I don't care what your lawyer

973
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: says or the other lawyer thinks he can do work around.

974
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: You want to have a second set of documents really

975
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: like not I don't want to work around Like dude,

976
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: put it in black and white. Let's sign you can't

977
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: do that. Three to five your term and let's go

978
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: get money. But you gotta have education to be able

979
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: to have the conversation. What we're with Tucky blunts from

980
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: Blunts and more Oakland, California, and it is time for

981
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: the High five. Give these five brother you ready? Question

982
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: number one? Ready? I know you said you started young,

983
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: but how old are the first time you smoked weed?

984
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 1: And where'd you get it from? In the town thirteen

985
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: and I got it from we were at a like

986
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: a graduation party, but like middle school. And one of

987
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: my homeboys has some weed, probably got from one of

988
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:18,959
Speaker 1: his brothers. That's always good. What is your favorite way

989
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 1: to use cannabis? I prefer to roll up a nice

990
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: five two graunds with a little bit of a little

991
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 1: bit of wax or something only shout out to burn. Um,

992
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: good dude, we've had a good talk working on some

993
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: good ship. But um yeah, I like I'm old school.

994
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: I used to like to roll like Swishers, But once

995
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: I got the little roller, the cookies roller, and I

996
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,479
Speaker 1: can roll a joint. Give me papers all day vibes.

997
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: Question number three of the High Five. Craziest place you've

998
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: ever used or smoked cannabis? My dispensary. We were closed,

999
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: but to be able to smoke at my legal turf. Yeah,

1000
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: that's crazy to me. Congratulation really is that had to

1001
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: be one of those good feelings like you were just

1002
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: about to lie, Like, what the fun do we are?

1003
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: I went to jail with this when I was a kid.

1004
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: This is that? That's like I'm thirteen blocks from where

1005
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: I called my case. I'm in the same zimpo I

1006
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: called my case in and then right back to the pile.

1007
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: But y'all got to hear this Ogland got beat up

1008
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: all the ship with all the break ins all blah

1009
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. So we've been on the phone with

1010
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: police all the different expense with owners. The cop who's

1011
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: leading the investigation on trying to cancel everything and stop

1012
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: all the stuff. It is the same cop who arresting me,

1013
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: and you're working with him, and he's, man, what can

1014
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: we do a fon Joe? How can we help? How

1015
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: can we get this start? You're like, motherfucker? You know

1016
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: how you can? You send him a box to chocolate

1017
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: because if he hadn't gotten that case had gotten arrested me.

1018
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: But we've talked about that. But that just goes to

1019
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: show like this all, even talking to y'all at this

1020
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: time on this date, everything was meant to following place

1021
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: and was meant to falling Placenumber four of the High

1022
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: five with Tucky Blunt, a k A owner of blunts

1023
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: and more. Question number four, what is your go to

1024
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: munchies after you get high? A warm honey bun and

1025
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: some nestly quick starberry milk that just takes you back

1026
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: to jail When you say honey bun, I feel like

1027
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: I'm in Redwood City, A big giant honeybun warm, you

1028
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: just leave the hole. Just egg little pieces that just

1029
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: start good are good. And number five, if you could

1030
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: smoke cannabis with anyone dead or alive, who would it be?

1031
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: My grandmother the first person whoever took me to a

1032
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: cannabis dispensary. She tell us that story. What do you

1033
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: mean I got at nineteen? I used to always take

1034
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: my grunning around around her errands. That's my grunning right here, um,

1035
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: she hurt. My dispensary is about five blocks in her house,

1036
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 1: same street, but about the five blocks difference. But one

1037
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: of her errands to take me to a store. When

1038
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: I pulled up nine the telegraph downtown Opland, came out

1039
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: with a white bag. I'm like, what's that? Grainy? She

1040
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: like as weed. I'm like, you I mean she smoked.

1041
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: We all you know, I'm like, you bought weed out

1042
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: of a store? She said, yeah, I saw I want

1043
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 1: one of these and this was and I started working

1044
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: at my first dispensary at the end of ninety nine.

1045
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: But I told her then I wanted to dispensary. Never

1046
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: knew this would happen. We would love to smoke with

1047
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: drawing with her right now in my parking lot. Your

1048
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: your first dispensary, illegal dispensery. But still that's great. Great.

1049
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 1: Did you see grandma smoking weed or you just knew

1050
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: her smoking weed? Yeah? No, d every like when they

1051
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: had parties and cookouts and stuff with the house and

1052
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: they're playing dominoes. I'm peeping through the thing. They're just smoking.

1053
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: She liked to run her papers. She grew weed before. Like, yeah, no,

1054
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: weed is prevalent in my in my family. So I

1055
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 1: guess blunt. Blunt was the perfect last name. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1056
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: talky man, We want to thank you for being on

1057
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: Cannabis Talk one on one and uh, you know, we

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Speaker 1: do appreciate you and we're supporters of you. Anything else

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Speaker 1: before we get out of here, the man just shout

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Speaker 1: been really helpful. Stuff up and trying to do. Shout

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Speaker 1: out to you guys for having me um and then

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Speaker 1: just eating that. Y'all ever need from me, mean you

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Speaker 1: taught me, help me me to I'm here. Will be

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Speaker 1: an open when you come to l A. Make sure

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Speaker 1: you touch base with us and Craig can probably touch

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Speaker 1: based him whichever you're trying to get sure I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: get your number. Will cut pass some of that stuff. Yea, man,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being our show man. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: the stalk on the while. Remember remember this guy. If

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Speaker 1: no one else loved you, we do. He's rather Thank

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