WEBVTT - The Minnesota Assassination & Evangelical Terrorism 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:05.040 Also media. 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:08.840 This is it could happen here. I'm Garrison Davis and 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:13.360 joined with James Stout. We planned a more silly intro 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:16.320 and then decided not to do it due to the 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:18.360 intense nature of the topic today. 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:21.279 Yeah, so today we're going to discuss the assassinations of 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:25.760 the Minnesota Democrat farm labor leader Melissa Hortman and her 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:30.640 husband Mark, and the attempted murder of Minnesota State Senator 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:34.160 John Hoffman and his wife effect. So, if you don't 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:35.800 prefer to listen to topics like that, now will be 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:39.560 the time to gep this one. If you're not familiar 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:42.839 with this topic, I guess the news cycle has been 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:44.120 pretty hectic, but no. 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:46.440 This one's been memory hold really quickly. 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:49.920 Yeah, considering we had just a straight up political assassination, 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:53.400 but that is what this was, and it was less 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:56.360 than a month ago. I don't really see people talking 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:58.320 about it. I don't see it being reported on that much. 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:02.280 I understand that the news cycle has been insane, but 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:05.119 so is this. So we're going to talk about it. 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:08.000 So just to give you if this has somehow passed 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:10.920 you by or you've forgotten about it. In the very 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:15.200 early morning of the fourteenth of June, Minnesota DFL Democrat 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:18.240 Party in Minnesota is called the Democrat Farm Labor Party. 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:21.280 You can interchange it with Democrat, be bluffed and do so. 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.880 Minnesota DFL leader Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark were 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:29.720 fatally shot along with their dog shortly before State Senator 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:33.559 John Hoffman and his wife Yvette, had also been shot, 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:36.039 with a vet protecting her daughter from the bullets by 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:38.840 diving on top of her. According to one account, a 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:43.760 man called Vance Belter it pronounced Belter. I've watched a 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:46.880 video of him saying his name, but it's spelled b 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:50.040 o e l t e er. If you're a searching 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:54.080 about this online, had banged on their door, impersonating a 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:57.400 cop and then asked if there were guns in the house. 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:00.240 When they opened the door, he claimed a shooting had 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.760 been reported at their residence. At that point, if Vett 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:08.880 noticed that he was wearing a silicone mask he had 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:11.400 which referred to in the affidavit I read as a 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:15.040 hyperrealistic silicon mask, and they confronted him about this, saying 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:17.680 you're not a cop, and at that point he began 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:21.760 shooting at them. It appears that he shot both of 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:25.359 them eight or nine times with a nine milimeters pistol 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:30.520 and then fled the scene in his Ford Escape suv, 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:34.160 which he had made up to look like a cop car. Right, 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:36.840 He had a police looking a light bar in there. 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:40.400 He had bought some supplies apparently at a fleet farm 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:42.960 to change the license plate to make it look like 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:48.040 the license plate said police. After that, he left the 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:51.079 scene of at first shooting and they said it his 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:53.680 daughter called nine one one. That was the first time 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.920 the police were alerted. So he went garrison, you were 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:59.520 telling me. He went to another public officials house who 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:01.119 was on vcation. Is that right? 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:03.880 He went to two people's houses in between the next 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:08.040 actual shooting. Yeah, one of them. He stopped at the 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:11.600 house of a local state representative who was on vacation. 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:16.440 He then moved on to another person's house where he 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:18.280 was confronted by a police officer. 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:22.200 And he during this time that the police officer noticed 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:25.440 a white man and what they assume as a squad car. 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:27.959 And this person wouldn't talk to the cop, just kept 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:29.720 looking straight ahead and not. 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:31.799 Speaking like a normal human. 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:35.760 Yeah, a very normal I don't know how cops interact 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:38.600 with each other, but that doesn't seem normal to me anyway. 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:43.280 This cop then proceeded to move towards this second of 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:46.800 public officials house and ignore the guy in a cop 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:49.040 car in a silicon mask who wouldn't say a word. 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:53.480 I guess that prevented that second public official from being targeted, correct, 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:57.200 And that's when Bolt moved on to the Hortman home. 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:01.160 It seems like local cops, when they heard that there 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:05.200 had been shooting at the Hoffman residence, went to check 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:09.200 on other DFL politicians. This includes that incident that I 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.360 just related to you, but also at the Hortman home. 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:15.000 When the cops arrived at a Hortman home, they found 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:18.359 a police looking suv in the driveway with red and 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:21.039 blue lights on, and what looked like a cop in 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:24.840 the doorway of the house. They confronted him. He seems 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:29.479 to have fired through the door. I'm a little unclear 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:33.000 on the exact timeline in the next minute of this, 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:36.400 but at some point they confront him. At some point 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:39.960 he shoots through the door. He then enters the house 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:44.120 and kills both the people inside as well as their dog. 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:49.280 The police engage him and he flees through the back 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:52.640 of the house. The police then enter the house and 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:55.520 drag out Mark Cortman, who had been shot through the door, 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:58.400 and they attempted to do CPR, but they were unable 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:02.039 to save him. They then and established a perimeter and 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.000 entered a house with a drone and that it just 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:09.080 a drone that finds Melissa Hortman's remains. She's also dead. 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:13.799 In the vehicle that he abandoned, they found several AK 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:18.039 pattern rifles, a notebook with other targets, and also in 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:21.000 the notebook he'd written the online search tools he'd used 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:25.160 to find these addresses, the different like online people searches, 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:28.920 data brokeer websites, data brokers away. I'm like, oh, thank you. Yeah. 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:31.560 He remained on the run throughout that day and the next. 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:35.000 During that time, he purchased an e bike and an 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:38.160 old buick with cash from his bank account, which he 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:42.279 emptied on Sunday, So the next day, authorities found the 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:45.120 car in the afternoon. In the car, he had left 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:48.479 a letter addressed to the FBI admitting his crimes. He 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:51.360 was then spotted by somebody on a game camera or 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:54.600 a trail camera, and shortly after that he was located 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.400 by a drone and then he was arrested in a field. 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.640 The day before the shooting, he'd turned off his phone 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:04.680 and left it in a home depot. Employees the day 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:08.599 after the shooting found the phone turned it on. Police 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:12.040 tried to raid the home depots. They assumed that he 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:14.320 was in the home depot on his phone, and then 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:16.560 they realized it was just a phone. I think it 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:18.560 was in like an suv or like it was in 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:21.600 like a truck bed or a vehicle outside the home depot. 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:25.080 Okay, he just dumped his phone. Yeah. They did also 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:29.279 find the location of his wife based on her cell phone. Right, 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:31.640 let's just explain a little bit about who this guy is. 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:33.680 I guess when we get on to his wife. Yeah, 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:36.520 Belter was fifty seven years old. Is fifty seven years old. 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:39.360 He's a father of five. As I said, his vehicle, 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:41.080 we're going to get into this a bit later, contained 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:45.280 another list of targets and included Democrat politicians and abortion providers. 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.760 His roommates confirmed that he was a Trump supporter, but 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:51.960 they were still very shocked that he did this. In 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:55.839 all the interviews I've seen, one of his roommates, David Carlson, said, quote, 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.599 he kept things inside. He's being kind of down. He 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:03.000 was not as upbeat he usually is. He had it 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.240 seems like a couple of residences, like he would stay 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:07.080 somewhere closer to work some of the time. 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:09.960 Yeah, he was renting a room in one of his 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:13.160 friend's houses. Yeah, and then he had a larger house 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:15.920 outside of town that he was trying to like keep 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:16.760 up with payments on. 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:20.280 Yep. And he gave three months of rent in advance 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:23.160 to the friend whose room he was renting. And he'll 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:26.560 send a messaging baie to his friends. He and his 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:30.680 wife were both preppers, and it seems that he sent 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:33.679 a text message to his wife that read quote, dad 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.240 went to war last night. So there was some other 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.240 stuff in it tube. I thought that part was relevant. 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:43.720 She was detained shortly after he began murdering people. In 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:47.160 her vehicle. There was a revolver in a semi automatic handgun. 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:51.200 The handgun was in a cooler. I don't know why. 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:54.520 She also had ten grand in cash passports, and she 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:56.960 seemed to be following their sort of bug out plan, right. 0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:00.480 Yeah, they had a quote unquote a bailout plan for 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:04.080 like this, like apocalypse prepper scenario that his wife was 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:07.360 instructed to carry out shortly after he did the shooting, 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:10.600 and he warned his wife that men with guns might 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:11.960 be coming to the house soon. 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:14.360 Yeah, his wife has been released. 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:14.520 Right. 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.240 There seems to be no suggestion that his wife was She. 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:20.840 Didn't seem to be aware of his plans to do this. 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:24.600 Yeah, it does seem a strange thing to just text 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:26.480 someone that men with guns might become at your house 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.520 and then you immediately leave the house with ten large 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:31.760 in cash, your passports, and two hangguns. But who am 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:32.920 I to judge? 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:35.600 I guess sometimes preppers are just like that. 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:38.920 Yeah, yeah, right, if you have spent your entire life 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:41.480 preparing for the moment when the big bag government's going 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:43.440 to come to your house, and I guess you know 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:45.040 you've been working up to this for a while. We're 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:49.880 in a different mindset. Yeah, talking of mindset, Garrison, I'm 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:52.120 in the mindset to buy some things. So let's hear 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:53.920 some advertisements. 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:56.600 It sounds like a much happier mindset than the past 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:57.240 ten minutes. 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:11.280 Okay, all right, we are back, and I wanted to 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:15.720 have a little chat about some of Belta's professional background, 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:18.920 because I think some of this has probably been overplayed. 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.560 It's certainly confusing because he seemingly had a lot of 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:24.960 jobs over the course of his career, some of which 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.560 were real, some of which were kind of not real, 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:32.040 but he tried to make real. Yeah, he's had what 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:34.600 they've called, i quote unquote varied career. 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:38.760 Yes, what we're seeing is like LinkedIn manifesting. Right, this 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.800 is a thing that middle aged guys especially do. Right, 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:43.600 but I've seen it from all kinds of folks, like 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:46.080 posting on LinkedIn like you're some kind of C suite 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:49.520 executive what you're struggling to make rind Definitely, yeah, And 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:52.320 I think LinkedIn is often the first thing that pops 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:54.560 up on Google when you startain one's name, and so 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.000 sometimes these things can be overplayed and are understanding of 0:09:57.040 --> 0:10:01.160 someone's background, especially when something there's some people who might 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:03.439 not have ocented a lot are trying to ocinth something 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.720 in the moments after the name of a shooter comes out. 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:10.360 Let's talk about his LinkedIn. On LinkedIn, he is listed 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:13.960 as the director of security Patrols for a company called 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:18.559 Pratorian Guard Security Services. If you afteing a security company, 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:20.720 don't call it that because there are so many of them, 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:23.560 and many of them I think have been getting unwelcome 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:27.560 attention as they're confused for his company. I did a 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:30.439 company search on the Minnesota Registry of Companies there for 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:33.800 Pretorian Guard Security Services, and I found it was established 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:37.200 in his wife's name in twenty eighteen. On the website 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:40.079 says quote once has been involved with security situations in 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:43.120 Eastern Europe, Africa, North America, in the Middle East, including 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.439 the West Bank, Southern Lebanon, and the guards A Strip. 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:49.400 He brings a great security aspect forged by both many 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:53.040 on the ground experiences combined with training punctuation. It's just 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:56.520 not happening here by both private security firms and people 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:59.600 in the US military. He worked for the largest US 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:02.960 oil finding company, the world's largest food company based in 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:07.720 Switzerland No Comma, and the world's largest convenience retailer based 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.240 in Japan. First of all, very difficult to read that 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:14.400 series of sentences aloud. But involved with security situations is 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:15.680 an incredibly vague term. 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:18.600 I mean, like, yeah, he's just listing a number of 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:21.319 places that he's been or maybe not even been, right 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:24.800 like texting someone because he has been to I think 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:28.040 most of these places, Okay, I can find him in 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:31.480 Gaza is there. There's yes, No, he has been, and 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:33.840 I'll get to that in a second. So he's certainly 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:36.559 been to these places. He has not necessarily worked security 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:40.520 in all these places, right, And he has worked with 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:43.280 companies that he's alluding to here. He may be kind 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:46.400 of exaggerating or talking about them in a grand jaz fashion, 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:49.520 but he has worked for a lot of food industry 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:51.719 companies over the course of his career, which we'll get 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:55.839 to in a sec He also started an earlier security 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:59.360 company in nineteen ninety nine that shut down around two 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:02.400 thousand and nine. Similarly did not seem to like really 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:04.520 do very well, and it was kind of more of 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:07.120 like a side hustle. Yeah, as he was working at 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:11.360 these different food companies. So this wasn't the first kind 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:13.960 of like sort of fake security company that he started, 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:16.880 nor was it the last a fake security company that 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:17.439 he started. 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:21.560 So I was cruising the Portraying Guide website which someone 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:26.239 had archived, and so there are like four tiers of membership, 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:27.600 so membership based. 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:30.040 Model, subscription service security. 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:35.920 Yeah, Iron, Bronze, Silver, and gold with options maybe the platinum. 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:39.120 I don't recall. He uses his PhD, which we can 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:42.640 get onto at some point. But what was more interesting 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:44.320 to me was that they have a series of quote 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:48.320 unquote red lines on the website, things that customers cannot 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:51.520 expect him to change or compromise write their integral day's business, 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:54.280 and part of that was quote we offer armed security. 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:56.720 If you're looking for unarmed guards, please work with another 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:58.240 service to meet your needs better. 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:01.880 He only works with the arms theecurity, no unarmed security. 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:05.000 Right. Yeah, if I'm not carrying guns, I'm not doing it, 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:07.599 which kind of seem he wants to pretend to be 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:10.400 a cop. We drive the same make and model of 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:13.600 vehicles at many police departments due to the US Currently 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:16.840 we drive Ford Explorer utility vehicles. He also has a 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:18.520 big thing about how they wear the most up to 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:21.480 date body armor and they won't not wear body armor. 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:24.240 ACAB includes the Ford Explorer once again. 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:28.120 Yeah, this stuff really kind of illustrates I think what 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:30.559 he was in it for, which is to dress up 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:33.160 like a cop and do cop shit. The website Coffee 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:36.640 is incredibly generic and very poorly written. The photos are 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:40.760 like we're talking MS paint tier photoshopping on here. Yeah. 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.600 Now, he just loved making websites. I've looked through maybe 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:47.360 like five of this guy's websites. He specifically, I know 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:52.439 previously in the twenty like Ronto is and eleven, he 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:55.240 specifically paid a website designer in Jerusalem to be in 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:59.160 support of Israel, to design a number of his websites. 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:03.160 And by twenty twenty three, Praetorian Guard Security Services had 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:06.559 yet to secure any clients at all in its entire 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:10.400 history as a company, which his wife blamed COVID for, 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:12.199 saying that they were just trying to get this business 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.920 up and running and then COVID hit and then it 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:16.120 kind of all fell apart. 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:18.880 Let me tell you, there has never been a place 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:22.720 in human history where there was more demand for private 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:26.120 security services than Minnesota. 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:27.320 In twenty twenty twenty. 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:33.160 I have seen outrageous day rates paid to private security 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:36.640 consultants in Minneapolis in twenty twenty. I had a whole 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:38.640 article that that we never ended up publishing about this. 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:40.880 But I think it's fair to say that if you 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.160 couldn't start it up there, then you ain't started it 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:45.760 up anywhere. The lowest rate, just for reference, was six 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:46.640 to ninety five a month. 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:49.000 Iron membership six one hundred and ninety five dollars a 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:51.240 month for the lowest membership. 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:52.880 They'll like pop round your house a couple of times 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:55.000 a month. Was was basically what you got for that, 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:59.280 and then you had access to upgrade your protection level 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:00.520 if civil and occurred. 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:02.120 Basically, oh thank goodness. 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:02.480 Yeah. 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:04.560 Yeah, this guy was kind of like a crank, and 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:08.160 as we'll see, he's like he's both like a cop 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:13.640 LARPer a bit of a crank and a Pentecostal evangelical. Yeah, 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:15.480 and it's much to put all these pieces together. You 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:18.440 can immediately identify what type of guy this is. 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:21.400 Yeah, Like one of the things I do just sort 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:25.520 of periodically is check in on like right prepper culture, right. 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:27.400 Like God's holiest warrior here. 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:31.440 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's absolutely people who have like a 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:33.640 a print of a picture of a crusader somewhere in 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:35.960 the home or perhaps a statuette. Yeah. 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:38.520 He literally called it the Praetorian Guard, Like, yeah, no. 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.440 Is this guy probably uh maybe he might own an 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:44.840 actual Gladius. It's a decent chance. So, yeah, this is 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.200 a type of guy, and we'll continue to build that 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:50.720 profile for you here. David Carson, his roommate, said of 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:54.040 the company quote, it wasn't a reality. It was like 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.360 a goal he had, but it was never realized. He 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:58.960 bought a couple of cars and maybe some uniforms. It 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:01.640 was never a real company. There's some more documents I'm 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:03.760 going to order from the Minnesota REDI story of companies, 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:06.320 just just to scope amount. But I think this was 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:10.400 basically another failed business venture, right. He from twenty twenty 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:12.880 three to twenty twenty five was working for a funery 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:16.360 services provider. He posted a video it seems to be 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:19.080 an introduction for some kind of business class. I believe 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:21.160 he was enrolled in some community college classes. 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:25.160 He took a few like online mortuary science classes as well. 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:27.280 Yeah, because that's what he was doing. Right. So, he's 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:30.880 working full time at Wolf Funery Home and then also 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:33.480 at something called Metro First Call, which was another funeral 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:37.400 services provider. He does mention in some detail that he 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:40.040 works with police in that video of Dooks about how 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:43.080 he works with police when he's removing the remains of 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:45.480 deceased people. Right, it might be someone who just died 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:49.359 or their death may have been violent. The second security 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:53.280 company that he claimed to be the CEO of listed 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:57.080 on his LinkedIn again was called the Red Lion Group 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:58.760 along with a dead URL. 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:01.880 Which is more than just security company too. I think, yeah, 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:05.439 it did fishing. Actually kind of was trying to be 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:09.440 a sort of humanitarian company or like, yeah, nonprofit charity. 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:11.440 I'll get to it more later. 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.240 Yeah, in a model of the old the Gaza model, 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:17.480 I guess kind of yeah, actually yeah, yeah, no, I 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:21.040 mean yeah. The URL was registered for Redline in twenty 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:23.800 twenty three. According to who is lookup, I did while 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:26.439 he was working for the Funery Company. Right, he appears 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:28.160 to have done a few things or given a few 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:31.000 accounts of what he was doing in Africa. A local 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:35.119 farmer he had told he was relaying modern farming techniques 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.119 to people in Congo. I've spent a decent about my 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:39.840 life in agriculture, Like, farming is quite different in Congo 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:43.760 and Minnesota. Actually, unless I guess there's something they could learn. 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:47.560 He also talked about helping with food supply systems. He 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:50.119 talked about running this company s Garrison is going to 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:53.680 cover in more detail. He also did some evangelical preaching 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:56.000 a Presbyterian who's a Presbyterian? 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:56.239 Right? 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:57.160 Quick correction. 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:01.920 In the first copy of this eppisode, we incorrectly called 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:06.960 him a Presbyterian. He is in fact a Pentecostal. I 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:11.600 mixed up my Christian pa words. John Calvin will still pay, 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:14.240 but yes, this is a Pentecostal evangelical. 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:16.960 He says in his video that he and his wife 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:19.840 first went to Congo alone without employee support to help 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:23.080 with food services. On his LinkedIn page, he wrote, I 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:26.080 have been doing projects in the Democratic Republic of Congo 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:28.520 in Central Africa for the last three years with Red 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:32.159 Lion Group. Just to be clear, he wasn't located in 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:34.480 DRC for all of that time, but he seems to 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:37.239 have taken several trips there, maybe on his time off 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:39.639 and working at a funery home. He seems to have 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:44.240 taken some mission trips in twenty eighteen to twenty twenty 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:46.280 three timeframe. From what I can work out, it. 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:48.280 Seems like most of his trips there were mostly for 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:52.040 missionary work, and specifically he picked up these jobs at 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:55.040 the funeral homes to pay for this while also trying 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:58.200 to get this company off the ground in the Congo. 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:01.399 In archive version of the Redline website states that they 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:04.719 specialize in food production and that they are quote working 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:08.879 on building the first modular oil refinery in the Democratic 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:12.719 Republic of Congo, developing a logging company, and have one 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:17.800 of the only glass manufacturing facilities in the entire country. Unquote. 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:21.760 They later say, quote, job creation is our number one goal. 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:24.359 Profits are important, but that has always been and always 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:27.960 will be our number two goal. But even if profit 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:30.960 isn't there in the end for Red Lion, but if 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:33.480 we were able to create good jobs that can be 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:36.280 self sustained by the project, where people can support themselves 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:39.760 and their families, then that is good enough for us. Unquote. 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:43.280 He has an interesting way of saying words there. 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:47.360 Yeah, you don't need a high level criminologist to find 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:49.639 out what this guy wrote, like, it'd be pretty obvious, 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:52.160 pretty obvious if he wrote his own manifesto, etc. 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.000 So, yeah, it's a company that was trying to do 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:56.760 everything and actually kind of did nothing. 0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:01.240 I'm aware of a Red Lion group operation in that area, 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:06.160 but it's not linked to his name. There are US 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:10.520 probably people as part of private security companies doing private 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:13.600 security work in the DRC, mostly around mind right, So 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:18.080 we're protecting infrastructure and employees and a lot of Israelis 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:20.280 kicking around as well in that area. 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:21.760 Many such cases. 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:28.159 Yeah, and there will be front groups right that allow. 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:31.520 I mean a lot of the like straked up mercenary 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:34.840 fighters who you're finding Congo are from Romania. People remember 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:38.320 a bunch of them were captured in Kiva recently. And 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:41.680 like there will sometimes be American or other global North 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:44.840 companies that are essentially passed throughs for those No. 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:48.800 I'm sure this like former like middle manager at food 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:54.760 like industry companies was not doing PMSC work in the Congo. Yeah, 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:55.800 that's just not true. 0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:59.840 He was. They're like preaching, Yeah, exactly, And I think 0:20:59.880 --> 0:21:03.280