1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Klay, Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now. Everybody, 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: thank you for hanging out with us. We are I 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: believe what we joined do? We have him? Okay, we do. 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: We're joined now by Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina. 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 2: He is a presidential candidate in this GP primary. Senator Scott, 8 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 2: pleasure to have you back on the program Sir. 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 3: Well, thank y'all both for having me back, and it's 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 3: always a good day to be back on here with you. 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: I know it's an obvious question. It's an easy question 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 2: from the perspective of the one asking, but I think 13 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: it's a more difficult one to make worthwhile for the 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: one responding. Senator, why are you running? What do you 15 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: want to do? That would be different from some of 16 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: the other Republican nominees. 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: I think it's so important for me, the guy who's 18 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 3: been blessed with the America that everyone should be in 19 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 3: love with. I believe that America can do or anyone, 20 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 3: but she has done for me, and that includes restoring hope, 21 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 3: creating opportunities, and protecting the America we love. I would 22 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 3: start my presidential service by resigning the XL Keystone pipeline. 23 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 3: Because our American energy future is our national security future. 24 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 3: Where we are in charge of our own lives, our 25 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 3: own energy, we are going to be on solid grounds. 26 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 3: Second thing I would say is that China is an 27 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 3: existential threat period. Everything that we do to decouple our 28 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 3: economy from China's economy is good for the nation. And 29 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 3: without any questions saying with the security apparatus, our southern 30 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 3: border is a crisis. I've always said, if you don't 31 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 3: control the back door to your house, it ain't your house. 32 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 3: If you don't control your southern border and might not 33 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 3: be your country. President Biden has failed US, failed US 34 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: miserably protecting Americans, including the seventy one thousand Americans who've 35 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: lost their lives to fitting All and one hundred folks 36 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 3: that our national security lives walking across our southern border. 37 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: We have to secure our southern border and use the 38 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: latest technology in order to surveil our southern border and 39 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 3: stop fitting All from killing another seventy thousand Americans this year. 40 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 4: Senator, you got called out, and I know this is 41 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 4: crazy to even have to ask about, because I think 42 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 4: it's the dumbest show filled with the dumbest people on 43 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 4: media on a daily basis. But Joy Behar said, essentially, 44 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 4: you didn't know what it was like to be black 45 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 4: in America. I'm curious how you would respond to that, 46 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 4: as well as Sunny hostin coming after you. I don't know. 47 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 4: I guess it's a sign that the view views you 48 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 4: as a threat to their left wing hegemony. But what 49 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 4: are your thoughts when you hear someone like Joy Behar 50 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 4: say you don't know what it's like to be black 51 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 4: in America and so your experience doesn't count. 52 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 3: But there's no doubt a why ladies dressing up in 53 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 3: black faith giving a black man advice probably doesn't ring 54 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: true in anyone's mind, certainly not my own. But more importantly, 55 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 3: I find it offensive and disgusting and dangerous for a 56 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 3: very different reason. I'm used to having the left attacked 57 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 3: me because the truth of my life disproves their lives. 58 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 3: And I say that because of this. When I helped 59 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 3: write the tax cuts and jobs that, they called me 60 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: a prop. When I started talking about refunding the police, 61 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 3: they called me a token. When I stepped forward and 62 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: pushed back from President Biden's malign agenda. They called me 63 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 3: the d words. I don't I'm used to it. Here's 64 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 3: what is dangerous and offensive to me. For every young 65 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: child in America wanting to think for themselves draw their 66 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: own conclusions. What they're saying to them is stay in 67 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: your place, do not stick your head up, because we're 68 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 3: going to tell tell you how to think, so you 69 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: never learn anything about what you should think. It is 70 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 3: literally the dumbest, most offensive thing I've ever witnessed on 71 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 3: TV to hear these millionaire TV personalities telling me how 72 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 3: to live my life as a black man, but more 73 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 3: importantly suggesting to every child stay in your place, follow 74 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 3: my lead, for you too will reap the same harvest 75 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: of Tim Scott or Clarence Thomas or any other conservative 76 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 3: who dares dares to think for themselves. 77 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 4: You know, it's, first of all, that's a very powerful response. 78 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 4: I think it's incredibly well said. I don't know if 79 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 4: you saw the comments from ice Cube. He's a popular 80 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 4: rapper for our audience out there that might not know him. 81 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 4: On the flip side, he spoke out over the weekend 82 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 4: and said, hey, we've been voting Democrat almost exclusively for 83 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 4: sixty years, and he said, how has that made Black 84 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 4: Americans experience better? I'm curious if you saw those comments 85 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 4: and what you think about what they could represent in 86 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 4: terms of Black Americans being encouraged by ice Cube to 87 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 4: look around and say, hey, being all in on one 88 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 4: side maybe isn't the best way to advance our political interest. 89 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts there. 90 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: Well, I celebrate ice Cube's comments, so I did not 91 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 3: hear them. I will say this that the African American 92 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 3: poverty rate has hovered over twenty five percent for those 93 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 3: sixty years. You're talking about forty of those sixty years. 94 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 3: The Democrats from nineteen fifty four until nineteen ninety four 95 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: had one hundred percent control of the United States House 96 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 3: of Representatives. Just take a look back and see how 97 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 3: bad those years were for African Americans. Here's the difference. 98 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: And this is why I think ice Cube has a 99 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 3: finger on the artery, not just the pulse, but the artery. 100 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 3: It's that when we we were in control as Republicans, 101 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 3: we funded historically black colleges and universities at the highest 102 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 3: level in the history of the country and made their 103 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 3: funding permanent. Because both myself and President Trump believed then 104 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: what we know now that education is the closest thing 105 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 3: to magic, and making sure that African Americans and every 106 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: other racial group in this country has the same access 107 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 3: to high quality education, we made it a part of 108 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 3: our objective. We lowered taxes for single moms. Seventy three 109 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 3: percent of their federal tax burden went down. That's important 110 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: when you think about the fact that seventy five percent 111 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 3: of African American kids are growing up in a single 112 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 3: parent household. Why not give that mother for money back. 113 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: So when we start talking about the policy successes that 114 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 3: we've had for all of America with no exceptions, it's 115 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 3: a reason the African American community is taking a second 116 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: look at the Republican Party and the more we go. 117 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: I did a black town hall the Black Church this 118 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 3: past Sunday, and the good news is at that Black church, 119 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 3: about sixty percent of the people that were there were white, Hispanic, 120 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 3: and about thirty to African Americans. Here's what we're learning. 121 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 3: We can no longer judge people by the color of 122 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 3: their skins, thank God Almighty. We judge them now by 123 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 3: the kind of the content of their character. Fat's called 124 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 3: American progress. We should all celebrate it. 125 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: We're speaking of Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina. He's 126 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: a presidential candidate in this election. Senator Scott, to follow 127 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: on to what you were just saying, do you think 128 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: that is part of your strategy? Clay and I were 129 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: talking about this last week. The Democrat Party in presidential elections, 130 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: stretching back for as long as I can remember, gets 131 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 2: effectively call it roughly ninety percent of the black Do 132 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 2: you believe that if you are the GOP nominee you 133 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: could change that number, such as the Democrat coalition fails 134 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: and you win as the Republican. 135 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 3: I think my message enjoys popularity with conservatives who happen 136 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 3: to be black, who happen to be white, who happen 137 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 3: to be Hispanic. Here's what I know for certain, that 138 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 3: being able to go where you're not invited sharing the 139 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 3: good news of conservatism, which of course you know they're 140 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: called American values. Conservative principles work wherever they are applied. 141 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 3: The one place where I've seen the least application has 142 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 3: been in the minority community, so specifically the African American community, 143 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 3: where we've seen a lot of government assistance but are 144 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: not enough entrepreneurship. In today's America, every community that has 145 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 3: strong entrepreneurship has low unemployment. I believe taking our message 146 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 3: to those communities across this nation will produce better results. 147 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: It works for me in South Carolina, I think it 148 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 3: will work nationwide where I enjoy more than twenty percent 149 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 3: of the African American vote. Are very close to it 150 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: election and election out over several two decades. 151 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 4: Now, Senator Tim Scott with US now he is running 152 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 4: for president. There's some things that occur that I just 153 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 4: can't believe are real. You have an athletics background, I believe, 154 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 4: and so you were talking about just being able to 155 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 4: reach out to audiences everywhere. 156 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: Would you have ever. 157 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 4: Believe, Senator, that not one single congress person in the House, 158 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 4: and not one single Senator would believe would vote to 159 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 4: say that men don't belong in women's athletics. And let 160 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 4: me build on that a little bit. I don't know 161 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 4: if you've seen this headline. Sam Ponder, who does an 162 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 4: NFL show for ESPN, actually spoke out and she spoke 163 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 4: out up and said, hey, this is wrong. We shouldn't 164 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 4: have men identifying as women competing against women. And an 165 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:13,359 Speaker 4: USA today editorial called her a bigot for having that perspective. 166 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 4: Can you believe that this is where we are in 167 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 4: the world right now in our country? 168 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 3: Unbelievable. I said it oftentimes around the country, and I'll 169 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 3: say it again that transgender ideology is going to ruin 170 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 3: female sports if we let it continue. There's no way. 171 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 3: As a guy who played college football twenty five pounds ago, 172 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 3: there's in the world, but I should be competing against 173 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 3: women in college if I were still that primetime athlete 174 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 3: that was thirty years ago. So the truth is that 175 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:52,359 Speaker 3: if we want to protect women's sports, protect the integuity 176 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 3: of competition, you cannot take any other position the one 177 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 3: that I've just asserted. It is common sense, and frankly, 178 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: I don't understand why it's controversial. 179 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 2: I think that's one hundred percent right. Senator Tim Scott. 180 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: Appreciate you being with us, sir. Good luck to you 181 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: in your campaign and to come back as things get 182 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 2: closer to uh, you know, the big days of voting 183 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: and talk to us again. 184 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 3: Okay, God bless y'all. Thank you for representing truth everywhere here. 185 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: Thank you, sir, We try, thank you. 186 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 4: Thanks a lot, Senator Tim Scott. 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My name Clay, Clay. 218 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton making sense in an insane world. 219 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Clay and Buck. This was a remarkable 220 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: story that started to get a lot of attention over 221 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 2: the weekend. Wanted to share it with you. A woman 222 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 2: at the Equinox chain of high end gyms named Robin Europe, 223 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: who is herself a former professional bodybuilder. She says that 224 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 2: she will that she was discriminated against at the Equinox 225 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 2: club and she sued them and won an eleven million 226 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 2: dollar judgment. This is in Manhattan Federal Court now as 227 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: a as a matter of record, Equinox. Uh have you, Clay, 228 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: have you ever been to an Equinox? I've belonged in time. 229 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 4: I know this is a super fancy gym for people 230 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 4: out there who have not been. 231 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: It's not super fancy. It's just not you know, it's 232 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: it's it's sort of a. 233 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 4: Planet fitness, Planet fitness, right, you could say a lot 234 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 4: of money. It's the target of gyms, you know, it's 235 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 4: sort of a really no I thinking of it as 236 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 4: fancier than maybe it's more like the Nemon. 237 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: Maybe it's more like the Neman Marcus. I think that's 238 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: a better I think that's a better in that that's 239 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: a better one, all right. But I've belonged to several 240 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: of them in New York. I know you wouldn't necessarily 241 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: know that, folks, but I've you know, just from from 242 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: the photos. But I've belonged to several Equinoxes in New York. 243 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: And she soon she won eleven million dollars. But as 244 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: a matter of record, uh, she was late for work 245 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: forty seven times in ten months. Forty seven times in 246 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: ten months. Now, Clay, you've had I've had employees, You've 247 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: had employees. You're late once, it happens, you're late a 248 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: few times over the course of a couple of months, 249 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 2: happens you're late forty seven times in ten months. Means 250 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 2: you're almost laid five times a month. That starts to 251 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:13,119 Speaker 2: feel like chronic lateness, which is generally grounds for termination. 252 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 2: And what's interesting is the stuff that I'm trying to think. 253 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: The case revolved in large part around allegations that a 254 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: manager who reported to Miss Europe, a middle aged white 255 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 2: man this from The New York Times, whom she described 256 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: as insulated by his relationships, refused to accept her as 257 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 2: a supervisor. She claimed he repeatedly delivered his vulgar takes 258 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: on black female bodies, referred to non white employees as lazy, 259 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: and expressed the hope that he could get them fired. 260 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: So a subordinate, she says, a subordinate employee that she 261 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: could fire, I would assume she's his, she is his superior, 262 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: or could at least take action against said stuff that 263 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 2: she didn't like. There is absolutely no record of this. 264 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: It's just she said that a guy said some things, 265 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 2: and she was late forty seven times, and she got 266 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: eleven million dollars. And you sit here say, I mean 267 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: she's probably in this role. 268 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 3: I know. 269 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: I actually have a friend who's a friend of mine's 270 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: a trainer at Equinox. She's probably making eighty grand something 271 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 2: like that, and she gets eleven million dollars to this, 272 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 2: I just want to say, first of all, Wow, what 273 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: is the burden of proof here? Oh, there's a white 274 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 2: guy at my office who said some stuff who works 275 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 2: for me as a a subordinate employee that I took 276 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: no action against. He said things that I don't like 277 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 2: that I found discriminatory or whatever. So I get eleven 278 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 2: million dollars. Now, why not one hundred million dollars? I'm 279 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 2: just wondering, like, how do you come up with the 280 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: eleven million dollar verdict? Play? 281 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 4: Well, hopefully this is one of those cases. And again 282 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 4: I've not seen the full case, but hopefully this is 283 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 4: one of those cases where there is a substantial ground 284 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 4: for appeal, because it's not uncommon that sometimes a jury 285 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 4: will act in a method or manner that's irrational in 286 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 4: terms of the verdict that they return. If you're right, Buck, 287 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 4: and this woman was making let's say she was making 288 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 4: one hundred thousand dollars a year, because it makes the 289 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 4: math easy. That would mean that she would need to 290 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 4: work for over one hundred years at Equinox to make 291 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 4: eleven million dollars. 292 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: I'm really really mean this, Can I get a job 293 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 2: somewhere where some First of all, I've had tons of 294 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 2: jobs where people have been, you know, said all kinds 295 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 2: of things I didn't like, especially when I was in 296 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 2: a subordinate role, treated me poorly, said stuff that, you know, whatever. 297 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 2: Can I get a job where someone says a few 298 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 2: things that I don't like to make me uncomfortable, and 299 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: in a few months time I get a pay I 300 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 2: got a payout for eleven million dollars. Get me this job, 301 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: Get me this job. That's so that's so horrible that 302 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 2: you get eleven million dollars. 303 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 4: Most of the time you don't make one hundred times 304 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,239 Speaker 4: what your salary would be because somebody says something mean 305 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 4: to you, even if it's true, particularly when you a 306 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 4: very good employee in the first place. Another Tuesday, another 307 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 4: data for each happened to a company with millions of 308 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 4: customer files. This time around, it's Bright Spring Hell. Nearly 309 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 4: six million records stolen, includes social security numbers, names, birth dates, 310 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 4: medical info more. 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Join now and save twenty five 321 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 4: percent off your first year with promo code Clay. Call 322 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 4: one eight hundred LifeLock or go to LifeLock dot com 323 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 4: use promo code Clay for twenty five percent off. 324 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 2: So I just told you the story of a personal 325 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 2: trainer fired from an equal gym in New York City 326 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 2: claiming that a white subordinate co worker, a white male, 327 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 2: said things that she found bigoted or racist about I 328 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: guess other people in the gym. And she was late 329 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: enough that she certainly could have been terminated on that 330 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 2: grounds alone, but she instead got eleven million dollars. And 331 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 2: I sit here and I say, and Clay's telling me, well, 332 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 2: maybe that will be reduced, and we'll see. But also 333 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 2: when I looked at this store, something else came up. 334 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 2: Some of you may recall this was back in November 335 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty two that a black female FedEx supervisor, 336 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 2: a supervisor at the FedEx company, won a Did you 337 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 2: hear about this Clay three hundred and sixty six million 338 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 2: dollar jury award in a case where there was supposedly 339 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 2: racial bias. It's fascinating whenever I read through these news 340 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 2: reports on the racial bias. I'm looking, I'm looking for, 341 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 2: you know, oh man, where where what is this stuff? 342 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 2: Where are the grotesque racist, you know, really degrading things 343 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 2: that we could all sit there and say, well, that 344 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 2: is appalling and the companies shouldn't be held three hundred 345 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 2: and sixty six million dollars is crazy, But you know 346 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: there should be an award here, and it's always I 347 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 2: didn't think, you know, in this case, it's I didn't 348 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 2: think I got promoted when I should have been, and 349 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 2: I think there was discrimination against me. I've seen nothing 350 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 2: in this case in now, granted I've only done a 351 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 2: quick read of it in the last few minutes, but 352 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 2: nothing to justify a three million dollar settlement, never mind 353 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: a three hundred and sixty six million dollars I mean, 354 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 2: I don't know, I think three hundred and sixty six 355 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: million dollars a lot of money. And I think what 356 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 2: you're starting to see is people might recognize that this stuff, all, 357 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 2: this all has costs and consequences. You know, you're when 358 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 2: when you're gonna get people getting three hundred million dollar 359 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: verdicts or even ten million dollar verdicts, that expense is 360 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 2: not just coming from you know, up in the air, 361 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 2: the ether or whatever. These are companies Now they're gonna 362 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 2: have to be paying out this this money. Now sometimes 363 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: it's covered by insurance, but their insurance rates go up. 364 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: What happens, then you're gonna be paying more for your 365 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: gym membership, you be paying more for FedEx. If these 366 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 2: kinds of verdicts become the norm, which I think you're 367 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 2: starting to see, this is getting way out of control 368 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 2: of the New York Times, to be clear, is celebrating 369 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 2: the eleven million dollar verdict. I think this is great. 370 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 2: Eleven million dollars for somebody who says she heard some 371 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 2: things she didn't like at work. And I sit here 372 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: and I say, when do we get to point out 373 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: that this is that there are certainly instances of this 374 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: where it's just people looking for a massive payday, or 375 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: it's people who are using the you know, the racial 376 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 2: guilt in this country and the terror that companies have 377 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 2: of being considered racist for a second, to just absolutely 378 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 2: ring the cash register as much as possible. Most of 379 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 2: the time, buck these cases will get tossed on appeal 380 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 2: the verdicts. 381 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 4: Because that's why I was pointing out. Let's say this 382 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 4: woman's making one hundred thousand dollars a year. Okay, she 383 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 4: got one hundred years of salary because according to her, 384 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 4: some people at her employer said mean things about her. 385 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 4: So usually again, usually there would be the plaintiff lawyer 386 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 4: and the defense attorney would sit down and say, okay, 387 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 4: like this number is totally out of whack. Uh, we'll 388 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 4: give you two and a half million dollar settlement, or 389 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 4: we're gonna appeal this and your client's gonna lose most 390 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 4: of this verdict. Right because again, under a lot of 391 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 4: different law, oftentimes I don't know, the three hundred million 392 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,959 Speaker 4: dollar verdict is probably wildly outside of what a jury 393 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 4: could deliver in those cases. Now, as an attorney, I 394 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 4: represented a lot of big companies the US version. 395 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 2: I can I just tell you what was not They 396 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 2: took it to court Clay to get it over, they 397 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 2: took it to appeal. Do you know what happened to 398 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 2: appeal maintained? Where is the case from US District Court 399 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 2: of the Southern District of Texas. 400 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 4: So usually, again, sometimes you have to go all the 401 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 4: way to the Supreme Court to get some of these 402 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 4: cases tossed out. I'm not an expert in that particular case. 403 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 4: There has to be in order for a verdict to 404 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 4: be applied some sort of mathematical connection that typically would 405 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 4: allow it to occur. So most of these massive verdicts 406 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 4: that you see that are plaintif involved, I'm not talking 407 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 4: about a massive lawsuit, right. Sometimes you have these class 408 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 4: action lawsuits where you know, theoretically a million people could 409 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 4: each make eighty dollars if they filled out the form 410 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 4: and turned it back in. And really it's the lawyers 411 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 4: who are ending up as the biggest beneficiaries here because 412 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 4: they get thirty or thirty five percent of a continuency fee. 413 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 4: There's no doubt that our court system is oftentimes strangled 414 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 4: by unnecessary litigation. And an easy way to think about 415 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 4: this is if buck, we had half of the truck 416 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 4: drivers that we have in this country, our entire economy 417 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 4: would collapse. 418 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 2: Think about it. 419 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 4: If we had half of the warriors, everything would be fine. Right, 420 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 4: So sometimes you can look around and you could probably say, 421 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 4: if we had a quarter of the lawyers, everything would 422 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 4: be fine, because there is a tax that is being 423 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 4: created by the legal profession in this country that does 424 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 4: not make the country more efficient than it otherwise would 425 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 4: be by many lawyers often filing unscrupulous lawsuits that are 426 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 4: unnecessary and actually make things worse for the vast majority 427 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 4: of the country. 428 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 2: So jurors awarded Harris the a female, you know, a 429 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 2: plantiff in this case, one point one six million million 430 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 2: dollars in compensatory damages. All right, I mean, you know, 431 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: if maybe there was something that people's maybe there, she 432 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 2: wasn't you know, fairly she's making like again eighty to 433 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 2: one hundred grand a year. You're giving her ten years 434 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 2: of wages. Okay, Okay, they worded a million dollars in 435 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 2: compensory damages and three hundred and sixty five million dollars 436 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 2: in punitive damages. 437 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 438 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 2: Now you'd say, and to your point, I think that 439 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 2: there's like a faith here that you and I would 440 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 2: both have in the system that say oh, come on, well, 441 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 2: the update that story was in November. The update as 442 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: a February third of this year was a Fifth Circuit 443 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 2: judge rejected FedEx's request to throw out or reduce the 444 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty six million dollars in damages, so 445 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 2: it made it to the appeal and the appeals court 446 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 2: guy was like, NOAHM sorry, So I don't know. 447 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 4: If they The way that typically this would work is 448 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 4: it was a district. 449 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: Court verdict in Texas. 450 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,120 Speaker 4: First of all, I don't know what the law is 451 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 4: in the state of Texas on punitive damages. I bet 452 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 4: we have geniuses who are experts on this. Typically you 453 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 4: could not reward a three hundred x punitive damage on 454 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,959 Speaker 4: top of a one million dollar verdict. Generally speaking, sometimes 455 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 4: buck what you have to do, and this gets into 456 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 4: the legal technicalities. Sometimes you get a bad judge right 457 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 4: on the Fifth Circuit. You might get I don't know 458 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 4: who that judge is, but my bet would be that 459 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 4: he would have been a Democrat appointee on the Fifth Circuit, 460 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 4: which is traditionally a conservative court in the country, And 461 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 4: so you get a hearing in front of one and 462 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 4: you have to require that the entire Fifth Circuit review, right. 463 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 2: So, I mean it's look, it's making its way up 464 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 2: the chain. But I just think it's interesting that this 465 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 2: is the initial three sixty six million. They went to 466 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 2: a district court judge, a federal judge, and said, hey, guys, 467 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 2: the three hundred and sixty six million for discrimination that 468 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: was apparently never proven. There's no Yeah, the basis for 469 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 2: this is her perception that she was discriminated against us. 470 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 2: She was a black woman who says that they treated 471 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 2: her differently because she's a black woman. And the judge said, no, 472 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 2: we're going to keep it. So now they're going to 473 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 2: the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals to elevate it beyond 474 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 2: the initial federal district judge. But Clay, who is this 475 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: initial district judge? Like, this is crazy town? Yeah, it is. 476 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 4: And I would bet again that it's almost entirely unjustifiable 477 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 4: under Texas law because a lot of states have tried 478 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 4: to put caps on punitive damages and damages in general, 479 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 4: because what ends up happening in many of these tort 480 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 4: lawsuits is this is a default tax on all of 481 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 4: the citizens of Texas because the corporation has to in 482 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 4: some way count on all these dollars that otherwise would 483 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 4: go to running their business going out to people with 484 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 4: unjustified payments. And that's exactly what I'm what I'm trying 485 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 4: to get at here is this isn't the juris think, 486 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 4: oh great, we're striking a blow against racism, even if 487 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 4: no racism was proved. 488 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 2: You know, it makes a point or something, and this 489 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 2: woman then gets very rich. 490 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 3: Yay. 491 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: People might get fired over this, you know, I mean, 492 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 2: you know, you look at what happened now it's very 493 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 2: different not a racial discrimination suit, but even the dominion 494 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 2: lawsuit at Fox, they had layoffs recently. Now they can 495 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: say that it has nothing to do with the eight 496 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 2: hundred million dollars settlement, but people lost their jobs. When 497 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 2: you have a huge judgment against the company, they have 498 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 2: to cut costs, people are going to get fired. So 499 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 2: if you're bringing a frivolous or false racial discrimination suit 500 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 2: and getting a massive judgment, there are good people that 501 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 2: get hurt by that, and the consumer certainly gets hurt. 502 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 2: To your point about effectively socializing these costs, which we're. 503 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 4: Seeing in a whole range of ways, well, and not 504 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 4: only that, Buck, I mean, if you think in a 505 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 4: bigger picture as opposed to one individual, which is again 506 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 4: that dollar figure would be entirely unjustified. Also, many of 507 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 4: the people who lose their jobs or minorities. You know, 508 00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 4: if a company has to retrench and end up laying 509 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 4: off lots of workers, then you're trying to rectify injustice 510 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 4: by in some way actually taking out more of an 511 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 4: issue on minorities to reward one right. And this, of 512 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 4: course is the great fallacy of BLM in general. The biggest, 513 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 4: the biggest losers of all of BLM are impoverished people 514 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 4: in inner city neighborhoods who can't walk outside safely because 515 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 4: they fired all the cops in the name of trying 516 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 4: to make the world less racist. 517 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 2: It's also just It requires a total suspension of the 518 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 2: reality that we all live in in this country where 519 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 2: in ninety nine percent of corporate settings and circumstances, what's 520 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 2: the fastest way to get fired, right, The fastest way 521 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 2: to get fired say something racist. No matter what company, 522 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,719 Speaker 2: no matter what business, no matter where you are, what 523 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 2: you're doing, the fastest way to lose your job is 524 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 2: to say something racist. And yet we're to believe that 525 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 2: in these cases there was all of this grotesque racism 526 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 2: underway that no no one can prove, and no one 527 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 2: knew about, no one heard about. But look, it's because 528 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 2: there's going to be more of this. I mean, Clay, 529 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 2: it's from the attorney side of it too, right, eleven 530 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 2: million dollars here, three hundred million dollars there starts to 531 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 2: add up those legal fees, you know, And this is 532 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 2: this is. 533 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 4: Where can you think it's a good question for everybody 534 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 4: else out there? How many professions could you eliminate half 535 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 4: of the people doing it and actually make the world better. 536 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 4: You could eliminate half of attorneys and America would work 537 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 4: just as efficiently and effectively as it does now. How 538 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 4: many professions can you say that about? Just think about it, 539 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 4: and a lot of them that don't pay very well. 540 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 4: The country would basically cease to exist, right, I mean, 541 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 4: if you took away half of the people who work 542 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 4: at gas stations, we'd have a real issue, right, take 543 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 4: away half the lawyers. 544 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 2: Country might be better off. 545 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 3: You know. 546 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 2: The other week I got to do an extraordinary thing. 547 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 2: I sat down with a market analyst who made a 548 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 2: special video of presentation. But the market analyst is somebody 549 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 2: I know very well, it's my dad, Mason Sexton, so 550 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 2: you probably recognized the last name. We talked about a 551 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 2: premise that's very important to him, the Great Disruption of 552 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. Look in the past, he predicted the 553 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 2: stock market crash of eighty seven, the top of the 554 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: market before the crash. He's made several major calls publicly, 555 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 2: but what he sees now was unlike anything he's seen 556 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 2: in fifty years of Wall Street experience. You can read 557 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 2: up on it now so you'll know how to prepare. 558 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 2: In this interview, he reveals the date this July, when 559 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 2: he thinks things are going to turn really ugly in 560 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 2: the markets. We're already starting to see the signs of disruption. 561 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 2: Banks floundering, real estate losing its value at a rapid rate, 562 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 2: inflation causing sticker shock at the grocery store. My dad 563 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 2: Mason will tell you why most analysts are wrong about 564 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 2: a coming decade in lost stocks or lost decade rather 565 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 2: than stocks, and why what's coming could be much much worse. 566 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 2: This is his first major public prediction in thirty years. 567 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 2: So if you missed it, the video is still up. 568 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 2: You can watch now watch the replay at Disruption twenty 569 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 2: twenty three dot com. That's Disruption twenty twenty three dot Com. 570 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: Sunday Hang with Clay and Boxing a new podcast. Find 571 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: it on the iHeart app or wherever you get your podcasts. 572 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 4: Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 573 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 4: of you hanging out with us. Last week, Ron DeSantis 574 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 4: hopped on the show. I believe it was on Thursday, 575 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 4: after he announced for president on Wednesday and said on 576 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 4: his first day in office he would consider the appeals 577 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 4: of January sixth defendants, including potentially the President of the 578 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 4: United States as well, in the event that Trump was 579 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 4: charged with crimes, as both Buck and myself believe that 580 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 4: he is likely to be. That is, we believe that 581 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 4: Jack Smith, independent counsel, is going to recommend charges and 582 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 4: the mayor Garland's going to bring him against Trump. I 583 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 4: think in the next sixty days, if I were laying 584 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 4: out June July is when I would anticipate that potentially happening. 585 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 3: Well. 586 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 4: Peter Doucy, Fox News White House correspondent asked Joe Biden 587 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 4: about those comments. Let me make sure that I get 588 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 4: this right. This was yesterday, as what Biden left for Delaware. 589 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 4: Here is this exchange. Listen, did you see the ron. 590 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 3: The Fantis bed that if he became president, he would 591 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 3: pardon Trump. 592 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 2: Where are you on the idea of president pardoning Trump. 593 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 4: I'll see you guys, if you couldn't hear that now, 594 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 4: Desanta said he would consider pardoning Trump. He didn't say 595 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 4: he would definitely do it. I said that if I 596 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 4: were running for president, I would definitely do it. 597 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 2: Buck. 598 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 4: I haven't seen a lot of other Republican candidates step 599 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 4: up and say the same thing. 600 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: To me, this is a no brainer. 601 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 4: But Biden obviously dodging that question as his Department of 602 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 4: Justice attempts to try to put this is important, try 603 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 4: to put his chief political rival in jail. 604 00:33:53,680 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's also real historical precedent here where look, 605 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 2: I think that the I think that the prosecutions of 606 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 2: Donald Trump are our bogus political hit jobs. But just 607 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 2: put that aside for a moment. The pardon of Richard 608 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 2: Nixon by by Gerald Ford. We understood that that was done, 609 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 2: or at least I should say, you know, historically that's 610 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 2: looked back on as this allows the country to move 611 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 2: forward and to you know, to not let things go 612 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 2: too far off the rails politically, or you have a 613 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 2: former president going to prison. Once you're former president's going 614 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 2: to prison, the descent into authoritarian third world hell hole 615 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,919 Speaker 2: happens real fast because the people in charge start to think, 616 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 2: Hold on a second, when I'm not in charge, does 617 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 2: that mean that maybe I go into a cell? That 618 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 2: changes the mentality very fast? So, uh, this is this 619 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 2: is I think it's clear as day. I think that 620 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 2: he should be look Trump, maybe the nominated Trump, maybe 621 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 2: the president. So to be fair, this may be a 622 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 2: non issue in that sense, but I can't see a 623 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 2: future in which if they bring charges and get some 624 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 2: conviction or convictions against Donald Trump, that a Republican president, 625 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 2: whether it's Tim Scott, Ronde Santis, whomever, wouldn't pardon Donald Trump. 626 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, it's good politics and good ethics. 627 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 4: And by the way, this is also worth contemplating. And 628 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 4: we need to get Andy McCarthy on or Bill Barr, 629 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 4: somebody who is very familiar with the DC circuit, because 630 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 4: my impression would be buck and we talked about this 631 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 4: last week. If there are charges brought against Trump, and 632 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 4: I think you agree with me that there are likely 633 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 4: to be federal charges brought. We've said that for some time. 634 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 4: But if it's going to happen in June and July, 635 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 4: which is when I think the timeframe is going to be, 636 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 4: is it possible that they're going to try to rush 637 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:47,280 Speaker 4: this so that this trial in DC could happen before 638 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 4: the March twenty fifth start date of the New York 639 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 4: City trial. This is really important because if they are, 640 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 4: they could try to put Trump in jail before he 641 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 4: were even able to get out on the trail and run. 642 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 4: And this is crazy stuff to be talking about. But 643 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 4: the thing we still don't know is what does that 644 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 4: DC circuit schedule look like? How quickly could those cases 645 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 4: get put together? Because my argument has been well, New 646 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 4: York City's going to come first, we also think charges 647 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 4: may come in August. It seems to be the timeframe 648 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 4: in Georgia. Is it possible they jump in front of 649 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 4: that New York City case and try to put him 650 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 4: in prison before the caucuses even go to cast their 651 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 4: votes in January? In Iowa, this is something to really 652 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 4: pay attention to. It's scary, it's unprecedented. We've never seen 653 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 4: it happen before. 654 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 2: Donald Trump weighed in over the weekend on his feelings 655 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 2: about the Disney Corporation center of a fight going on 656 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 2: right now. We'll talk about that more coming up.