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Speaker 2: So y'all, we have Zachary Zane in the building.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, welcome back, and you've never heard our show.

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Speaker 1: I'm weezy, that's Mandy, this bitch dead bitch, Yo, bitch,

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Speaker 1: what's the that's me a short?

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Speaker 2: Oh. I love staying on you everybody. Oh girl, Yes,

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Speaker 2: I'm for the street.

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Speaker 3: I don't like being called a venture inse.

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Speaker 2: No, no, I'd be like I'm your bitch.

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Speaker 4: No, no, most of us are like slut's fine horse,

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Speaker 4: fine bitch is absolutely like blood.

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Speaker 3: Horror is always fine.

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Speaker 2: I don't even like slut like that. I didn't like

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Speaker 2: when daddy he said slip, but slut he said in

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Speaker 2: my perfect my perfect slut. So see, you got to

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Speaker 2: add an adjective in front of slut boy slut. There

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Speaker 2: we go. So you're here with the boys flood of sluts,

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Speaker 2: which is funny because if you guys missed out on

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Speaker 2: the first time we had zacharyon, I actually met him naked,

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Speaker 2: and you were you look really good naked, sir, by

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Speaker 2: the way, as thank you, thank you, and normally listen.

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Speaker 3: There each other's perfect flud.

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Speaker 2: No, but you reached out, and I'm glad you did

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Speaker 2: because you have a book coming out.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I do this week. Congratulations.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that comes out May ninth, so you can pre

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Speaker 4: order it now everywhere books are sold.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I have to ask you because you you

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Speaker 2: you're a columnists, you write for mental health, all the things.

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna call him at Cosmo this Wow, what's

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Speaker 4: it called? So it's navigating non monogamy, which isn't the

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Speaker 4: sexiest thing it but essentially when I pitched it to them,

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Speaker 4: I said, I'm like, right now, there's so much intro

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Speaker 4: content for non monogamy. Right It's everything's about like how

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Speaker 4: to open up your relationship, how to navigate jealousy, how.

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Speaker 3: To how to have three sums.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, what about people who have been nominongous for

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Speaker 4: six months, two years, five years, they know how to

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Speaker 4: be jealousy. Like, there's so much more content out there

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Speaker 4: for people who are not beginners, and so many things

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Speaker 4: intro content. So I'm like, I want people been doing

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Speaker 4: this for a while who realize that, Like, it's not

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Speaker 4: just about navigating jealousy. There're ten million other things people

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Speaker 1: Cosmo might be the only tangible magazine that I'll still

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm like, oh fuck that.

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Speaker 1: And like a health magazine if I'm on a kick

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, how to lose weight in six hours?

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Speaker 2: Yes, don't crazy. Because Cosmo before, like I think our

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Speaker 2: parents even knew, was the magazine that always had like

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Speaker 2: your one of the funniest articles they had.

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Speaker 1: We read a few years ago and it was like

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Speaker 1: the worst advice we've ever given.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen that one? You know?

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Speaker 1: But it continue They had ship and they're like, before

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Speaker 2: That we're just dating advice.

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Speaker 4: It's they they kind of had this rebrand maybe like

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Speaker 4: five ish years ago, don't quote me on this time,

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Speaker 4: and now like so obviously they switch from like how

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Speaker 4: And sometimes I say Cosmo and they're like really and

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Speaker 4: they still think of it as nineteen seventies Cosmo or

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Speaker 4: with those shitty advice.

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Speaker 1: I'm not mad at how to like people still want

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Speaker 2: That's why we all have job of course, you know

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Speaker 2: so in boycelet though you share, Yes, go ahead and

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Speaker 2: grab you there y'all watching YouTube, you you talk about

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Speaker 2: a lot of your sex. Yes, your sex, the paid Well,

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Speaker 2: what's your book about? Yeah, talk to us about what

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Speaker 4: So the book first and foremost is how to unlearned

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Speaker 4: sexual shame. That is what it's about.

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Speaker 2: Bit Like, that's like we got to get one of

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Speaker 2: That's our elevator. We need to go over to the rain.

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Speaker 3: But we need some mother community.

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Speaker 4: And I do it through a very I'm bisexual, so

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Speaker 4: bisexual lens, a king positive lens, polyamorous lens. I have

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Speaker 4: like two chapters in the book about how I used

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Speaker 3: Uh this no, this was in Somerville, Massachusetts.

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Speaker 2: There was no way it's in New York.

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Speaker 4: Many people went, oh yeah, but like I think Somemmerville

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Speaker 4: is like the only city in America to like legalize

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Speaker 3: They were married for about like eight nine years when

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Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, and did he meets you? And lets you

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Speaker 3: Like what was so when we met, I remember.

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Speaker 2: We can do it. I love it. I want to

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Speaker 4: They're exactly, you must meet this man. He's also bisexual.

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Speaker 4: That was the worst, Frind, that was the worst French

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Speaker 3: They're always in shock. It's just like truly, I mean

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Speaker 4: how do you navigate jealousy?

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Speaker 4: And he pauses, he goes, yeah, I think I really am.

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Speaker 4: And I had just started being a writer at the time, right,

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Speaker 4: nothing really about polyamory. I'd love to interview you about

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Speaker 3: He knows nothing.

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Speaker 1: About polymor Well, now I do, now I do because

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Speaker 4: Like I don't know what the fuck is a cult?

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Speaker 3: But family game night.

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Speaker 2: I get all that's how I'll be getting three someomes,

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Speaker 2: Cris Andndy what I go all you, I'll said it.

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Speaker 2: Game night. We have the cards come out, we do

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Speaker 4: The first time I ever sucked to dick was from

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Speaker 4: a betting on a game of Super Smash brother.

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Speaker 2: Wait wait, I won.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I'll still suck your dick, like like I

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Speaker 2: I was gonna Smash Brothers. How old were you when

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Speaker 3: I was like twenty two.

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Speaker 2: This was like you suck your first dick at twenty two?

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Speaker 4: I got my dick sucked by many guys. But again,

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Speaker 4: I'm not kidding, not so sorry, Okay, it's not gay.

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Speaker 2: Literally.

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Speaker 4: There's also like people just refuse to say the word bisexual.

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Speaker 1: Can get your dick sucked by a man and not

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Speaker 1: be by sexual. I think so, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that's queerer.

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Speaker 2: You're just on the spectrum, not the spectrum, not that

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Speaker 1: And this is very fucked up to say, but like,

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Speaker 1: I really like when guys tell me they made guys

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Speaker 1: I made him suck my dick and then he just laughed,

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Speaker 1: and I was like.

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Speaker 4: Like, also, it's like, you know that little I shouldn't

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Speaker 4: that little queer boy absolutely fucking loved it.

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Speaker 3: Life.

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Speaker 2: I'm okay with that, But you're right, I think in

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Speaker 2: terms of men, though I don't hear the word bisexual

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Speaker 2: half as much as I do with women. There's just

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Speaker 2: so much stike, Oh wait, tell us Okay, so you

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Speaker 4: Oh oh sorry, yeah, wait ten million tangents videos. We

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Speaker 4: And what I've learned is poly people are just a

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Speaker 2: It's debs really hard.

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Speaker 4: And I have my guy friends who are like, don't

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Speaker 3: Like and he's like, yeah, like it is misleading.

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Speaker 1: I've been really lucky to have a lot of intimacy

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Speaker 2: But that want nothing series, But I'm still all johand

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Speaker 3: I want to enjoy these moments with you.

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Speaker 3: And I actually told him like, I don't know if

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Speaker 4: And I respect you for saying that because the number

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Speaker 1: I mean I have sex with I'm hella attracted to

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Speaker 3: Part, love you.

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Speaker 2: That's just the truth.

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Speaker 1: If you are someone on paper that I would want

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Speaker 3: It's like, keep going, are talking about me?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: I'm enjoying author now is like, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I can have him, Like you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: On paper, you see the long term in somebody, Yes,

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Speaker 4: I have one of my close friends and he uh,

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Speaker 3: Love him to death, and I'm saying this with nothing

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Speaker 4: So I assumed when I visited him like we were

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 4: So I'll fuck you with friends in this group setting,

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, thank you.

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Speaker 2: It's all fake. No, I want to get married too, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: No. I want to have a primary partner, this person

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Speaker 2: Do you want kids?

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Speaker 3: No, absolutely fucking not.

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Speaker 4: Okay, absolutely, I'm working on getting the vasectomy.

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Speaker 3: And they do not make it easy. They really really.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we've ever had the conversation. What

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Speaker 4: So they make you again different than the state. I

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Speaker 3: Six months.

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Speaker 4: And the only reason why I actually did not do

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Speaker 4: I think that's from working out, and he's like, this

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Speaker 2: as well.

445
00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,000
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to come in people.

446
00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,240
Speaker 4: I'm just like a simple man, like I'm just trying

447
00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,360
Speaker 4: to rid and breed and.

448
00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:13,760
Speaker 3: Not have to worry about this ship.

449
00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,639
Speaker 4: But when they're doing like, oh, don't worry, you can

450
00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,320
Speaker 4: come to me, I'm like tracking my cycle.

451
00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, don't like that game that is that is

452
00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,119
Speaker 3: a real. That's me. That's a real that is.

453
00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:30,760
Speaker 4: At too fast, a little fast and loose. But I

454
00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,480
Speaker 4: have like ten different side stories I want to go.

455
00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,200
Speaker 2: We have we have time to get into those stories

456
00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,080
Speaker 2: because we're talking about firm come and ejaculation. I want

457
00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,280
Speaker 2: to get into our vanilla ship because I wanted to

458
00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,879
Speaker 2: know as well, if you knew that there is a

459
00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:54,360
Speaker 2: simple exercise that now can help men combat premature ejaculation

460
00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:59,119
Speaker 2: and last three times is long in bed now, because

461
00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,720
Speaker 2: you'll be a mis I wanted to know first if

462
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,359
Speaker 2: you know about the exercise that can help with this.

463
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,520
Speaker 3: Are you just talking about edging or cables?

464
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,480
Speaker 2: This is an actual exercise that can help with premature ejaculation.

465
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,479
Speaker 3: Oh yes, so that'd be something that would strengthen your

466
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:15,359
Speaker 3: pelvic floor.

467
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,160
Speaker 2: Come on pelic floor.

468
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,680
Speaker 4: And you're not talking about ky gells, so it would

469
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 4: have to be. And this is real science, not fake.

470
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 2: Really, no, this is what I'm saying.

471
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,239
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know. I don't know.

472
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,399
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, for those of you who do not know,

473
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 2: there are multiple There are a multitude of reasons why

474
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:39,360
Speaker 2: a man may be suffering with PE, including depression, wearing, guilt, stressed,

475
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,119
Speaker 2: substance abuse, sexual abuse, or.

476
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 3: Premature jaculation not a discussion.

477
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 2: So scientists have concluded that it might be time to

478
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 2: strike a yoga pose. They found that men who suffer

479
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 2: from PE could benefit from practicing one move in particular,

480
00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 2: I know you've been in this position. We're facing dog

481
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 2: yoga saw the amount of time male volunteers lasted in

482
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 2: bed almost tripled, from twenty six seconds to just shy

483
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 2: of a minute and half a minute and a half

484
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 2: on average. According to the study, benefits of yoga on

485
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,640
Speaker 2: PE include, like you said, improving reproductive functions for modal

486
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 2: regulation and enhance awareness, better management associated with risk factors

487
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 2: for PE, and strengthening of pelvic musk.

488
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,360
Speaker 4: And also so much of yoga is about meditation and

489
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 4: breath work and those types of things blowing your body

490
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 4: down and dealing.

491
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 3: More in tune with your body. So that weeks.

492
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 2: Weezy had Liz goldwent on and we talked about the breathing.

493
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 5: What was that odalin? No, it's where you just you

494
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 5: go on and breathe. Oh, it's like and you end

495
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 5: up like feeling high by the end.

496
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 2: Of So we've actually said, like in terms of sex

497
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 2: tips often too that getting getting your breathing aligned when

498
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 2: you're having sex and not but like not being really

499
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,400
Speaker 2: high with with your breasts make for a better experience

500
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 2: with having sex as well.

501
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 3: So it's also with premature ejaculation.

502
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 4: I always like, I get too turned on, I come quickly,

503
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 4: I eat them out for twenty minutes, and then you

504
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 4: go back to having sex again.

505
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 2: I think, Oh, here's my unpopular opinion. Come on, unpopular opinion.

506
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,360
Speaker 3: Does anyone really care if you come past me? I do? Oh,

507
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 3: I don't.

508
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 2: Unless you could get back up, you know what I'm saying.

509
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 3: If you can get it back up, like or if

510
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 3: you please me, I don't really care. It's it's such

511
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 3: a compliment. Well, if there's so much like, do.

512
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 2: You think it's a compliment? Now niggas be lying all

513
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 2: they ass talk about ooh, this pussy is so good.

514
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 2: This as so good. That's why you made me come

515
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 2: so fast.

516
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 3: I believe you.

517
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 2: You come fast, like you know. I don't believe because

518
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 2: me and my friends, we ask Himo sisters, we just

519
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 2: shared a couple of niggas. Bitch, I pussy ain't the same.

520
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 2: Maybe they have. Maybe all of us got good because

521
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 2: we'd be like, girl, he came fast with you too,

522
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 2: bitch me too.

523
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 3: I don't like it just seems like just simple.

524
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: Solutions, just like you can the first one out and

525
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: then is longer in the second round.

526
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's usually, And like I'll let them are, like

527
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 4: I'm gonna come quickly. I'm gonna eat you out, suck

528
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 4: your day for twenty minutes, and then I'll fucking fuck

529
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 4: you again for forty minutes because I.

530
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 2: Can last longer. You're gonna come quickly, yes.

531
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 4: Because especially if there's a lot of for like the

532
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 4: great great parts of Floor four plays that it turns

533
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 4: you on, makes you a rouse. But if I do

534
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 4: too much for play, then I'm gonna fucking come quickly

535
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 4: because I've not been hard for twenty minutes, and like fuck,

536
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 4: but it's such an like a simple solution to just

537
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 4: be like, the reason what stops is they have that

538
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 4: shame they like they fucked up, so they don't want

539
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 4: to keep going. And then they don't consider like eating

540
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 4: out or sucking dick as like true sex, and it can't.

541
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 4: It's like just eat them out for twenty minutes and

542
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 4: which way they come fifty times and then you fucking

543
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 4: put it back in like.

544
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 3: You eat really good puffs.

545
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 2: You do. But I go in saying we're going as

546
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 2: many rounds as I can get you up. Yeah, so

547
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 2: even if you come my mouth going right to dad

548
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 2: dick and I'm gonna get you to fuck back up,

549
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 2: that means you gotta keep going.

550
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 4: I can tell your intense sexual energy definitely scares the ship.

551
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 3: They're not gonna be able to get hard the moment.

552
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna let that.

553
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 3: I do.

554
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 2: I'd be like, just so you know, we going as

555
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 2: many times as I get you up. And there was

556
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 2: one guy was just recently fuck with his young ass

557
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 2: cut them off because he came once and was done,

558
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 2: and I said, just so you know, I ain't gonna

559
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 2: keep doing this with you either, gonna give me some money?

560
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 2: He said, I text better than I talk. He didn't

561
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 2: have words for me in the moment, and I said,

562
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 2: oh now, now my pussy, really try He literally said

563
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 2: I can text better than I could talk.

564
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 3: I would at least go with He's not actually responding,

565
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 3: he's respond to me.

566
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck? So No, I'm really really

567
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 2: big on knowing what I want and what I need sexually.

568
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure you've seen me. Fuck, we went

569
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 2: at it for hours. I woke up at that place

570
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: all the goddamn time. So I like to go a

571
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 2: very very long time. And so to me, I need

572
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 2: a partner that matches my sexual drive. It just is

573
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 2: what it is.

574
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Speaker 1: That is the scary part about like law. So one Scott,

575
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: how do I know you're gonna match my sex drive?

576
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 3: You don't, but you don't.

577
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 4: But open relationship, you know what I mean? You don't

578
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 4: have to have the exact same sex drive.

579
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 2: Primary your primary partner does. Primary partner does? Do you not?

580
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 3: But also maybe they have other things like money money.

581
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 4: The best luber knt there is because you.

582
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 2: Practice polyamory and open relationships does You're saying your primary

583
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: partner does not have to meet your sexual it's uh appetite, It's.

584
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure some stuff out personally that haven't

585
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 4: figured out where. It's like sometimes when I'm dating someone

586
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 4: for a long period of time, I lose sexual esteme

587
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 4: with them, which happens, which is everybody long. It depends

588
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 4: six months, it could be six months, it could be sooner,

589
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 4: it could be And that's been.

590
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 3: An issue for me.

591
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 2: But just like you lose sexual s, think well.

592
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 4: Also sometimes I wonder that I'm putting too much sexual

593
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 4: energy elsewhere, you know what I mean, and so making

594
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 4: sure to be like true.

595
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,239
Speaker 1: I've got a close friend of mine who's in an

596
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 1: open relationship where his partner is super poly and he's

597
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 1: like yo, like every time I'm ready to fuck him,

598
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: like I can tell he's either tired from the night

599
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,959
Speaker 1: before or you just got too much shit going on?

600
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 2: Yeah?

601
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 4: Is I Actually I wrote about this in the book,

602
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 4: and I think I'm actually changed. That's also one thing

603
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 4: about writing book which is difficult. It's like I wrote

604
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 4: this book. I'm thirty one now. I wrote this book

605
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 4: between twenty nine and thirty.

606
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 3: And you didn't change and like things, I'm like, you

607
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 3: wrote it all about yourself. Wow, I mean, we'll tell you.

608
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 4: I'm Yeah, I'm someone who also ghost writes books too,

609
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I actually just want to be on

610
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 4: the cover with Like can I be a co author?

611
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 3: And like no, we just want you to ghost write.

612
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I want to do this. I want that.

613
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 3: I want the fame, I want the glory. But like

614
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 3: Cocaine term me bisexual, we got to talk about that. Oh,

615
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 3: great chapter. Oh, we're going to get into it.

616
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 4: I can't wait till my mom reads that chapter. It's

617
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 4: gonna be so much fun. It's gonna be so much

618
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 4: My grandma too, Uh, it's just gonna be she just

619
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 4: got a pacemaker in and it's going to take her out.

620
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 2: Of shares that chapter. I feel like, thanks, oh.

621
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 4: God, But no, I think it's one thing that's been

622
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 4: challenging for me is just being like, Okay, I wrote

623
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 4: this at a point in time. Of course, I'm going

624
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 4: to grow and change. Obviously, ninety five percent of the

625
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 4: things I agree with and will agree with until I die. Yeah,

626
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 4: but some of the stuff about where I was in

627
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 4: my sexual journey has since changed. And I felt really

628
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 4: initially quite guilty being like, well, shit, I don't know

629
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 4: if I stand by this. Maybe I was in a

630
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 4: little bit of denial while writing the section of the book,

631
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 4: and I look that I've had enough friends who are

632
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 4: authors who are like, yeah, you're allowed to grow and change,

633
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 4: uh from writing this book. This doesn't mean like your

634
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 4: life stops and you had everything figured out. This was

635
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 4: just this just like a podcast. Yeah, like stuff changes.

636
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 4: But I kind of wrote some stuff in there. I'm

637
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 4: not sure how much I agree with it, but I

638
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 4: wrote about how I like, I used the word of

639
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 4: pray sexual, which actually is pray sexual, which is so

640
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 4: you've probably heard the word demisexual, right, which is like,

641
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 4: so you have demisexual, is you only want to fuck

642
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 4: someone once you have an emotional connection with yes, then

643
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 4: prey sexual is often the opposite. So it's like the

644
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 4: more you have an emotional connection with them, the actual

645
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 4: less you want.

646
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 3: To fuck them.

647
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: And I've never heard of that.

648
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 4: And and the thing is I wasn't sure, and I

649
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 4: was like, I think I'm definitely on that spectrum, right,

650
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 4: being like, that's what is and for me in my relationships,

651
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 4: prayse sexual, ray fr ay, I need to there's a

652
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 4: glossary in the books Don't Worry Sexual.

653
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 2: I've never heard of that, And at first.

654
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 4: I was like, is this because I'm emotionally stunted. Is

655
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 4: this because I've had sexual.

656
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: Always here with men when they're a girlfriends or women

657
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: whatever their dating get pregnant every single time, but that circumstances.

658
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 3: I think that's always thing.

659
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: Yes, circumstantial motherhood well maybe, but the motherhood almost like

660
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: takes them out of it because they get so emotionally

661
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: invested that they've been make them so much.

662
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 4: I don't know that regardless, it does relate, and it's

663
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Speaker 4: like usually in like, so it's something I was like,

664
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Speaker 4: maybe I'm on this spectrum and I think a lot

665
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 4: of it is I think I am. I think a

666
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 4: lot of guys just you know, you don't want to

667
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 4: fuck the same person forever, you know what I mean?

668
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 3: And for me same with women too, say what everyone

669
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Speaker 3: yeah here from.

670
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: Man man don't want to put the same woman?

671
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 3: Not not everyone, not everyone, but like.

672
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Speaker 1: What notsit when I gave when I resent, it's actually

673
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Speaker 1: in the stry is there?

674
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 3: That is a statistcal a fact?

675
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 4: No, it's so I always like I wrote this being

676
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 4: like and I've had relationships where it's kind of great

677
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 4: where my ex boyfriend is a porn star, right, and

678
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 4: so when he was so fucking hot. It still is

679
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 4: the hottest man in the world. Stand by Jordan Jamison.

680
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 4: Look up his porn in the world.

681
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 3: I keep going and I'll be looking at his dick.

682
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely.

683
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 4: And what was kind of good was like, you know,

684
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 4: if he's on set and has taken fifty three fifteen

685
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 4: inch dicks and came nine times by the time he's

686
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 4: comes over, he's like, he's like, I don't need to

687
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 4: have sex, and I was like, so then we would

688
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 4: just cuddle, watch movies, talk in our relationship an s

689
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 4: sex focused and it kind of worked because he was exhausted.

690
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 4: I had this Oh oh he's stunning, stunning, I am

691
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 4: not met Oh yeah, absolutely gorgeous.

692
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 3: Really like I'm getting fucked looking at this picture.

693
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: That's a crazy too.

694
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 3: Bisexual, No, he's gay.

695
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 4: However, my female friends literally would always try to fuck

696
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 4: him and he did it like once and he's like, okay,

697
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 4: like yeah, I could be into it. I'm like, you, guys,

698
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 4: this is imagine if this was the opposite and this

699
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 4: was just like all uh my gay friends trying to

700
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 4: like seduce like a straight man, we'd be like, we'd

701
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 4: be like, you are a predator.

702
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 3: This is inappropriate, and.

703
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: Now I'm bad when people over sexualize. Like one person,

704
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: I can think of dust dustin all the time I

705
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: see it. He's a podcaster and he's gorgeous, but I

706
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: do feel bad when I see comments under his pitches

707
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: like where are you game?

708
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, I know that's gonna drive. I posted him

709
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 2: airbodic thing. That's who I'm It's gorgeous.

710
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: I believe it.

711
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 4: It's but for him, he literally fucked this woman and

712
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 4: then after he ate this another girl out. He's like, yeah,

713
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 4: I think I could be into it. I'm like telling

714
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 4: my girlfriends, my female friends. I'm like, you are literally

715
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 4: harassing my boyfriend. I need you guys to stop trying

716
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 4: to do this. You need to calm the fuck down.

717
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 4: He's a gay ass man, respect that, But I want

718
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 4: back to phrase sexuality a little bit because I think

719
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 4: I'm having a different Like I thought. It was like

720
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 4: exploring with my therapist. I'm like, have I had sexual trauma?

721
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 4: Am I emotionally stunted? Is like, what's going on? And

722
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 4: nothing ever quite emerged. He's like, you just might have

723
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 4: this relationship with sex, And so for a while I

724
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 4: left it un packed, you know, I mean I kind

725
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 4: of was like, Okay, this is it. Let me just

726
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 4: work to find relationships where this can be a thing.

727
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 4: And now with this new therapist who's pushing a little

728
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 4: bit deeper, being like, hey, you might have some trauma

729
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 4: from last relationships, not sexual trauma, but just like bad

730
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 4: relationships where you have this rough time and you might

731
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 4: be a little bit more avoidant for this, and let's

732
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 4: trying to unpack it. So while I think phrase sexuality

733
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 4: can be a valid identity, I think for me, perhaps

734
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 4: some of the reasons I'm experiencing this is because I

735
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 4: had some past relationships. I'm afraid of getting hurt and

736
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 4: I'm working and so I'm now working on that. But

737
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 4: that was one of those things where, like I wrote

738
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 4: in the book, and that sense kind of changed my

739
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 4: mind a little bit. But I'm like, you know what,

740
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 4: people will take what they want from it. They might

741
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 4: have this relationship with sex, and the whole point of

742
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 4: that section was talking about finding the relationship style that

743
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 4: works for you, So being like, if you're someone who

744
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 4: is less sexual with your partner, that's okay if you

745
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 4: own it and try to find those right people. And

746
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 4: so that, of course I still stand by that is like,

747
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 4: no matter how you relate to your partner, how you

748
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 4: relate to sex, the key is knowing it, identifying it,

749
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 4: and finding the right partners who are a match for you.

750
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 2: And that's yes what I'm doing. Absolutely. I wanted to

751
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: make sure we got to the ward dirve with you, please,

752
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 2: So we're gonna get a little messy with the hohod dirt.

753
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: Oh oh, fuck me if I think I know this

754
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 3: is shared?

755
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: Did you and fuck me.

756
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 3: To turn right now?

757
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: Probably really purple? As I guess you decided to share

758
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 2: the nice, wonderful uh fact about you. Did you enjoy

759
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 2: deep throat puking? Not deep throat but not deep throat fucking? Yeah,

760
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: deep throat puking. And so for mind you, I'm someone

761
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: who fake gags just so that they can move their

762
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: goddamn dick off my tonsils, because I do not want

763
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 2: to throw up on a dick. But you enjoy it.

764
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: So I wanted you to share some tips on how

765
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 2: to keep it fun and as clean as possible when

766
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: doing deep throat puking.

767
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 4: This is actually a great question, and I did, like

768
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 4: I had a section of the book where I like

769
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 4: delved into the actual dynamics of how to do it.

770
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 3: My editor was like, yeah, this is a lot much.

771
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 4: This is like we don't need like five pages dedicated

772
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 4: to like the consistency of it.

773
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: Like I think we're gonna cut this, and I'm like, okay,

774
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 3: that's fair.

775
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 4: But like, okay, just gonna get I mean, I think

776
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 4: I have a lot of pages still dedicated to it.

777
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 4: I have like a whole kink chapter and that's what

778
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 4: it's in. The king chapter is called a peg for

779
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 4: every hole proud of that chapter.

780
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: That's weird.

781
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 4: But so there are few things to take note of this.

782
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 4: It's like you the smell I do not find attractive.

783
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 4: That is that is a hard stop. The smell is gross.

784
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 2: And it's also based on what you ate that day.

785
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 3: So you want fluids? You want do you want fluids?

786
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 4: So like and and I learned this, I don't The

787
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 4: chunky is like because that's when you get the smell, Like.

788
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: If you had a chunky throw up and it was

789
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: actually from food, not hangover, And I was like, oh this.

790
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 3: Is related or just hungover. No, okay, but.

791
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: About it, I was like, oh, this wouldn't be the

792
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: throw up you want to like, No, it's but a

793
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: wet throw up isn't that bad.

794
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 3: It's just like extra messy.

795
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 4: But like I've saw im porn like so like the

796
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 4: people will drink milk beforehand and then you get it

797
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 4: esthetically pleasing. Milk doesn't have a nasty smell. It comes

798
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 4: up so like drinking a lot of water, drinking a

799
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 4: lot of milk. If you just had like a fucking burger,

800
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 4: this is not the time to be doing this at

801
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 4: a drinking No milk.

802
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: Almond milk also works, and.

803
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 4: So there's no smell, and it's more about like that

804
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 4: fluid and messiness, and it's about like the chunky smell,

805
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 4: which is rough. I have one of those like sex

806
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 4: sheets that are like latex or good for you, one

807
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 4: of those things that you have that you wipe it

808
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 4: off when you're done, otherwise it will drain through your

809
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 4: sheets and your mattress protector to the.

810
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 3: Bad And did you know you liked it? What's crazy?

811
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 4: This was one of those things like I've probably watched

812
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 4: every genre of port.

813
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: While we're talking about this, my face is just I

814
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 2: got this.

815
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: It's not for everyone, is not, you know what I've

816
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: realized recently, So there's an only fans I have a

817
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: crazy king for watching Bukaki.

818
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 3: And love it. I should have worn my fucking's good

819
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 3: the save your com t shirt.

820
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: So basically in this only fans, the girl's like doing

821
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: a blowbang or whatever, and like one of the guys

822
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: made her throw up. But I was able to still

823
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: keep masturbating. And I thought about it later and I

824
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: was like why and I was like, oh, because it

825
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: was just clear. Yeah, it didn't feel it didn't seem nasty.

826
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: It wasn't like I.

827
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 3: Wish I'd made this distinction in the book.

828
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 4: And my editor did cut this out because I'm afraid

829
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 4: now I'm gonna go the way book signing, some guy's

830
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 4: gonna eat like nine fucking pizzas, I'm gonna go to

831
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 4: the bathroom and throat fuck him.

832
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 3: And now I'm just be like, oh.

833
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 2: Shit, he's gonna say he liked it, and oh, I mean,

834
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 2: but it's just like a little I was just thinking that,

835
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: but the question it just comes out the way.

836
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 4: No, it's like, so we asked about it, and like,

837
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 4: so I watched every poor known to mankind, you know

838
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 4: what I mean, And I've kind of like gone through

839
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 4: every phase of porn, and this one has been consistent

840
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 4: since like sixteen. Yeah, and it started with just like

841
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 4: you're just like I want to use the words call

842
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 4: it what it is because.

843
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: You said is so serious. This one has been consistent

844
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: for me. This is as if it was like how

845
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: he got his job. I just was really good at

846
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: telling story and I'm a.

847
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 4: Wiry but it's I'm I mean, I've done this interview. No,

848
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 4: just joking, but it's like it was interesting, you know, it's.

849
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: I'm not serious.

850
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 4: I'm gonna end up laughing. It's more please go on.

851
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 4: It's but like does it matter who's doing it? No,

852
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 4: So I'm happy to do it on other people that

853
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 4: I'm doing it on me. What's my fave?

854
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: Like, do you do you enjoy throw up going on

855
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: to you or you both producing the throw up?

856
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 3: Both depends on the move.

857
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 4: I can't pick one of bisexual bisexual, I don't have

858
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 4: to pick it's but so but yeah, So I started

859
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 4: watching like deep throat porn. I remember I saw ship

860
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 4: and this is like earlier days of the Internet. I

861
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 4: don't know how to like search for ship where it's like, yeah,

862
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 4: I put penis in throw I didn't know what like.

863
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 2: Okay, we're talking about you said I saw ship.

864
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 4: I was like, no, no, no, no, no, not actual shit.

865
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 4: Sorry I should clarify that is a good distinction. But

866
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 4: I remember seeing I remember the first time I saw

867
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 4: like a throat bulge and have you seen that ship

868
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 4: where it's just like I remember saying that. I remember

869
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 4: like how quickly I came. I'm like, well, that's fucking

870
00:37:58,800 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 4: weird that that did it for me.

871
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 3: And then through.

872
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 4: Watching these like just aggressive deep brokes, it just kind

873
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 4: of get further and further and further, and then you

874
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 4: ended up here and and here.

875
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 3: We are, and you got to do cocky. I was

876
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 3: into like threesomes.

877
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: Then it was gang bangs and it was like rough

878
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: gang bangs, and then it was like humiliation and now

879
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: everybody has to come on her and leave her destroyed.

880
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 3: She's like withering on the floor. In the title, I

881
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 3: probably need to watch it destroyed annihilated.

882
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 4: It's also a good one for the title, so fu yeah,

883
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 4: it's always if I'm looking up poles.

884
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 3: Also another good one.

885
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: Figure out how to spell annihilate.

886
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 3: I bonded with a friend recently.

887
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: They do it for you, but I uh.

888
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll interview him one day when we have him

889
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: mine something I bonded over with a friend who saw

890
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: a clip of me on TikTok or whatever. He was like,

891
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: you like we paggy and he's like that's crazy as

892
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: fuck and we're laughing about it and he's like, okay,

893
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: I got a secret.

894
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 3: I was like, tell me, and he's like, I like

895
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 3: seeing bitches be a chair.

896
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 2: Or a table. They just got to be used.

897
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, I've gotten to the point

898
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: in my life I like to and I'm sure you

899
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 1: guys get this to all the time.

900
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 4: The number of d ms that I get to people

901
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 4: just wanting to share their sex, the sexy things that

902
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 4: they're into, and it's for me, it's for us to

903
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,760
Speaker 4: be like, hey, this is okay. They're seeking permission engage

904
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 4: in it.

905
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I don't get that. I get like men

906
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: saying like coming up to me and I've shared this

907
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: on the pot and it's stop it, stop it, guys. Stop.

908
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 2: I don't want to dominate you. I don't want to

909
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 2: pay you like it'll be like it's a common like

910
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 2: it's not even yeah, but it's like I listen to you,

911
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 2: love you, support you. Can you bid me over tonight?

912
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: It's like, no, like that's not a common question that

913
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 2: you would ask any It's just because.

914
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 4: You such like a dominant personality that they assume that

915
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 4: that's what you be into the fact.

916
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: That y'all just think I want to funk everybody. It's

917
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 2: crazy just because I happens.

918
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 3: That's crazy. Maybe Tyler Perry hire you.

919
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: That's what you need to ask yourself before you come

920
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 2: up to me and think I want to talk to

921
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 2: you when he casts you as a star in one

922
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: of his play is the or Film.

923
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 3: If not, it's well, that's one thing.

924
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 4: Especially like my brand is boy slut Right, and I

925
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 4: have a non fiction erotica zine where I just write

926
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 4: about sexy, kinky stories and my friends will joke I

927
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 4: do cast out a wide nets with the people that

928
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 4: I hook up with. It's like for me, even even

929
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 4: if you're not I mean fat asses, I mean obviously,

930
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 4: but like that always is.

931
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: That obviously obviously?

932
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 3: Come on?

933
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 4: We thought it was the long neck throat, the long

934
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 4: neck throats, but like, I really, where am I going

935
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 4: with this? But it's so when I don't fuck someone

936
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 4: and they're so confused, like will you fuck everyone? I'm like,

937
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 4: I don't actually have sex with everyone. I have sex

938
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 4: with a lot of people. Do not get me wrong,

939
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 4: and I do cast out a wide nets shoot your shot,

940
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 4: but like you're not like when I'm like not, they're

941
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 4: like and they get like visibly angry.

942
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 2: Keep me from what would keep you from having sex

943
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 2: with somebody?

944
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 4: It's I mean, in general, I do want to be

945
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 4: attracted to them. I'm like, that is an important thing

946
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 4: unless that kind of goes unless we're doing something crazy kinky.

947
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 4: If we're doing something crazy kinky, I'm attracted by the

948
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 4: act that we are doing. Like what that's for example,

949
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 4: I don't need you to be hot if you're puking

950
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 4: on my deck, you know what I mean, that's just

951
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 4: like especially for that. It's just like it doesn't fucking matter.

952
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 4: I'm attracted to the moment, to the action, to the behavior, to.

953
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 3: The scene, to the scene.

954
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 2: I need you to be fine versus to do like

955
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 2: because that's even the question that I get from my

956
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 2: friends a lot, like, well you enjoy doing this, why

957
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 2: don't you charge? Like they immediately want me to just

958
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 2: start charging people to do it to them, and I'm like, well,

959
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 2: I still would like to be physically sexually attracted to

960
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: a person that I do anything sexual with. That's why

961
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: it was hard for me to have Like it takes sugar,

962
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 2: it takes.

963
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 3: The fun out of it.

964
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: This isn't related, but this conversation just happened a few

965
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: hours ago before I walk in the door.

966
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 3: I got offered a ninety day fiance.

967
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: Like a production company basically wants me to sit in

968
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 1: my house and watch it because I love this show,

969
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: you know. And I was like, yo, I love this

970
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: show so much that if it becomes a job, I

971
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: won't you watch it anymore? Yeah, And like I think

972
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: that when we have so many different pleasures, whether we're

973
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: good at them or not, like once you turn something

974
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: into work, I.

975
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 4: Had to get over that hum being a sex columnist

976
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 4: or at times I was just like maybe also just

977
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 4: like a little too in my head, being like because

978
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 4: I know, I mean, I do read the research. I

979
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 4: talked to experts in like, oh, this is what you

980
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 4: have to do in order to make sure it's pleasurable

981
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 4: for your partner. And I'm like, I don't want to

982
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 4: be a machine that's I want to enjoy this for myself.

983
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 3: And I remember there's a time a few years ago

984
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 3: where I'm like.

985
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 4: I need to take a step back and remember, like,

986
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 4: I'm doing this because I love doing U. I love

987
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 4: having sex to turn off my work brain and just

988
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 4: be like, let's go to fucking town and enjoy that.

989
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 4: But I remember it was tough. There was definitely maybe

990
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 4: a six month or year period where everything I'm like, oh,

991
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 4: this is a possible story.

992
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 3: It's like, I'm not doing this because it's the story.

993
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 3: I'm doing this because I want to fuck you.

994
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 2: I just had this conversation where my ex a thought

995
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: the things that I was doing was performative because I

996
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 2: have a podcast, and I'm like, I just I think

997
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: everybody that i'm.

998
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 3: That talks about sex goes through that.

999
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: Though, I did want to get into the horrible decision

1000
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: please and us digging into the bisexual voicelet that is

1001
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: you please. I wanted to get into so all of

1002
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: us are bisexual, and I wanted to know your thoughts

1003
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 2: on the narrative that anyone who is bisexual is actually greedy,

1004
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: or that being bisexual you're confused. There's actually a lot

1005
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: of negative connotations surrounding someone being by which is maybe

1006
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 2: why we don't hear it from a lot of I

1007
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: think the.

1008
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: Gay community, lesbian and male gay community are the ones

1009
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: to give the most shame to bisexuality.

1010
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I do acknowledge it has been getting better

1011
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 4: and and the amount of advocacy and like, if you

1012
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 4: google bisexual guy, I think three of the top five

1013
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 4: articles will be me. But when I first started writing, like,

1014
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 4: there was really no like, there's very little bisexual visibility,

1015
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 4: and the articles that even came out were never actually

1016
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 4: geared towards bisexual people.

1017
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: It was always trying to prove that we exist. So

1018
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 3: it wasn't like so when I.

1019
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 4: Started writing being like, oh, here's advice for a bisexual

1020
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 4: person on how to date because it's challenging, that content

1021
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 4: wasn't even there. It was always just like proving that, like, hey,

1022
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 4: we're not actually gay, we're not actually confused. And when

1023
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 4: I first came out as by, remember, I thought the

1024
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 4: world was going to be my oyster, Like I'm like,

1025
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 4: oh my god, I could date men and women and

1026
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 4: not by people. And then like women would not date

1027
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 4: me because they were so afraid I was going to

1028
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 4: leave them for a man.

1029
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 3: And gay men were just wildly condescending.

1030
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 4: They'd like, oh honey, I was by you'll get there too,

1031
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 4: but you're still hot, so I'll fuck you.

1032
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 3: And I'm like, do you think I want to fuck

1033
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 3: you now?

1034
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 4: Like, like that's just really rude, but wow, yeah.

1035
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 3: I think as if you don't want to come all

1036
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 3: the way out or something.

1037
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, And there's just still so much stigma towards bisexuality.

1038
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 3: And the stigma is different for by men and buy women.

1039
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 3: What we experience is different percent but like both I think.

1040
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: I think for us, I think the biggest misconception with

1041
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: me is because I like women. Now, whatever man I have,

1042
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 2: they're now open to all the threesomes they want. And

1043
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 2: every time I'm with a woman, they're worried if I'm

1044
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 2: fucking this woman. And yes, I'm curious, Yes.

1045
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: Why buy instead of pan sexual or something else?

1046
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 4: But why do I claim the label by by a

1047
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 4: pan And.

1048
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 3: For me, I feel like, okay, we all might be

1049
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 3: panned but you know what I mean.

1050
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 4: I mean, the thing is right now. Also, the definitions

1051
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 4: we have for bisexual and pan sexual are not great.

1052
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 4: I think that's why there's so much confusion between Like

1053
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 4: what's the difference between buy and pan It's because people

1054
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 4: define each differently. My attractions depending depending on how you

1055
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 4: define pan sexuality. My attractions are pan sexual. I'm attracted

1056
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 4: to cist people transfer you said earlier, non binary people.

1057
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 4: I'm attracted to everyone.

1058
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 2: So bisexual is sexually or romantically attracted to both men

1059
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: and women or some more than one sex or gender.

1060
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: Pan Sexual, on the other hand, not popping.

1061
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 4: Up Nerrowbridge, Oh, and I have don't worry, I have

1062
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 4: great definitions of bisexual and pan sexual.

1063
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 2: Sexual is sexual, romantic, or emotional attraction towards people regardless

1064
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 2: of sexual gender.

1065
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: So why the label bisexual for you? So for me?

1066
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 4: So depending So if we're using that definition, that's because

1067
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 4: I'm not attracted to you regardless of your gender. I'm

1068
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,479
Speaker 4: attracted to you because of your gender. I like high

1069
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 4: fem women, I like high mask people, I like androgynous people.

1070
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 4: I'm not someone I'm attracted to all of it versus

1071
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 4: that definition of pan sexuality is I'm attracted to regardless.

1072
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 4: That's what I say Bow, So I'm actually attracted to

1073
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 4: all of it. But it's also this is a historic label,

1074
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 4: a label that we have. Remember I wring for men's health.

1075
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 4: So now this is an SEO search engine optimization issue.

1076
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 4: So I have older men, let's say, in their thirties, forties, fifties,

1077
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 4: who are googling I think I might be bisexual. They

1078
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 4: don't even know the word pan sexual. So if I

1079
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 4: started using the word pan sexual and not bisexual, men

1080
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 4: could not find the recent sources.

1081
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: Feel like I just learned even have this podcast. It

1082
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 2: is right, fairly new.

1083
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 4: It's that, and I fit sometimes worry that pan sexuality

1084
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 4: comes out of Hey, I don't want to deal with

1085
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 4: the stigma of bisexuality, and pan sexuality doesn't have that

1086
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 4: stigma yet because it's a new word.

1087
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: I actually don't like using the other ways to identify

1088
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: because I feel like everybody's not going to get it.

1089
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1090
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 2: I also, I mean it's even using queer. Yeah, I

1091
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 2: think it's everyone.

1092
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: I think sometimes it's not clear, like because I remember

1093
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: my not my mom, maybe it was another older woman

1094
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: in my life, but they were like, oh, I thought

1095
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: queer was how you dress, which is understandable. It's like

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Speaker 1: I used to call Prince queer back in the day.

1097
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: I thought he was just out there. Like, I get

1098
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: how someone in their seventies might think that.

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Speaker 4: It's just confusing because even people in their twenties and thirties.

1100
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 4: We have so many different definitions of queer, a, bisexual,

1101
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 4: and pan sexual. So it's almost like so whenever I

1102
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 4: say I'm bisexual, I usually say I'm bisexual and attracted

1103
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 4: the all gender.

1104
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: Do you think we're also loaded with pronouns and identities.

1105
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 4: It's tough because, like, I want you to identify however

1106
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 4: you feel fits you and whatever resonates with you. However,

1107
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 4: they're getting a lot of letters in the alphabet, and

1108
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 4: I think especially it's I know we're at lgbt QQ

1109
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 4: I A A P two plus.

1110
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 2: Wait, I know, I didn't know there was qq lgbt

1111
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: Q I A plus is all I need?

1112
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 4: Is So the second Q, questioning, which actually questioning, kind.

1113
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 3: Of pisses me off.

1114
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 4: I'm sorry if you question, If you're questioning and then

1115
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 4: decide that you are straight, you are not a member

1116
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 4: of the LGBTQ community. Just because you're questioning, You're like,

1117
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 4: we're all questioning our sexuality to some degree. That doesn't

1118
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 4: make you queer. Questioning therefore assumes that you're actually queer.

1119
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 4: That oh, you're questioning, and I'm going to land on

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00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 4: a gay or queer or bisexual label, and I don't

1121
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 4: think that's fair. I think you'd be questioning and then

1122
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 4: realize that, oh, actually I'm just feminate.

1123
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 3: But I'm straight. Wait, there's two spirit, that's the two,

1124
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 3: which to spirit that's t No, that's the two. So

1125
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 3: it's literally LGBT q k P two. You're right, You're right, sorry,

1126
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 3: literally trans to pspan sexual plus.

1127
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 4: And also they have I think they have, so they

1128
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 4: have a sexual and then allies in there and I'm

1129
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 4: like they are and I'm like, no, I'm sorry, I'm

1130
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 4: sorry they did.

1131
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 3: Not like I understand a sexual of course, the.

1132
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 4: Allies and questioning. I don't think you are queer, like

1133
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 4: you might be queer. If you are question you you

1134
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 4: don't get that. Sorry, you don't get to be a.

1135
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: Part of Like I don't want you to be included

1136
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: in this world. And that's why we have the lyft

1137
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: and the Ubers and all these parades. But what I

1138
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: was saying that the rude thing that I said was

1139
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: two summers ago, was in the village and I remember

1140
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: after the parade, this guy I don't know LGBT keep

1141
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 1: plush shirt and he was like saying how this was

1142
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 1: a new experience for him, and he's just figuring it out,

1143
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 1: and I'm like.

1144
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 2: Are you sucking big?

1145
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: It's tough, and he was like, oh, well no, Like

1146
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: I'm straight, I'm married, I've got two kids, but like

1147
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: you know, I'm finding my way.

1148
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 3: And I was like, you just like hanging out. We

1149
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 3: gave me.

1150
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 4: It's it's really tough because you don't you don't want

1151
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 4: to gate keep and a lot of people are confused

1152
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 4: and figuring out. And I want you to feel welcome,

1153
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 4: but I also get frustrated when I'm like, are you

1154
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 4: gonna suck by dick?

1155
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 3: Can I suck yours? Like like, let's let's get to

1156
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 3: this year Robbi.

1157
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 2: With the girls, y'all gonna stop flirting with me. I

1158
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 2: will let a girl know real quick. I'm real gay

1159
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 2: like and well each jo pussy, So don't flart with

1160
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 2: me and think you I.

1161
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 3: Don't like to make out girl. It's I don't like

1162
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 3: the makeout.

1163
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 4: It's a fine balance because also I've noticed that they are,

1164
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 4: especially because now I'm in these spaces, you know, queer

1165
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 4: sex clubs, where it's like you get social clout being bisexual,

1166
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 4: and so you get these guys who like feel comfortable

1167
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 4: making out with the dude in these parties and they're like, oh,

1168
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,959
Speaker 4: but yeah, I think I'm by but I don't really

1169
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 4: like fuck dudes or don and I just kind of

1170
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 4: want to be like, sorry, i'm spitting on you. I

1171
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 4: just want to be like, uh, like I'm sorry. Like like,

1172
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 4: if you're confused in figuring out, I do want to

1173
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 4: support you. But if you're just trying to like know

1174
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 4: that being a straight white dude, which straight sys white

1175
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 4: through in the space, you get shot on so they

1176
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 4: fgu're like, oh, I'm not homeophoto, and so I'm like,

1177
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 4: you're trying to claim an identity because you want to

1178
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,959
Speaker 4: be slightly more marginalized, and like, dude, you're not bisexual.

1179
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, You're just not homophobic. I feel comfortable making

1180
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 4: out with a man, but it's tough because maybe they

1181
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 4: are bisexual and they're figuring it out, so you don't

1182
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 4: want to get you. But at the same time, I

1183
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 4: do want to protect my spaces and I do want

1184
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 4: my identity to be valid and mean something. So this

1185
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 4: is something I struggle with being like, I want to

1186
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 4: be inclusive. I want everyone who's confused in questioning to

1187
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 4: figure it out to be able to do that. But

1188
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 4: at the same time, if you're not, that's okay, that's

1189
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 4: okay to you.

1190
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 1: In questioning because the list is too long. I think

1191
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: too many choices.

1192
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 3: I really, I really think so.

1193
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 2: I think that I think they just also keep making

1194
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 2: the adding more choices because hey, we hate the.

1195
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 3: Not least the Republican. What's happened.

1196
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 2: I didn't say us did not no, no no. I just

1197
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 2: realized we're all sitting here.

1198
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 4: Like owls no, no, no, don't say gay all the time.

1199
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Speaker 3: And this is one of those things.

1200
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 4: We're even among the liberal community, the progressive view of

1201
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 4: the queer community, like we are. Some of us are like, okay,

1202
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 4: these labels have gotten out of control, like this.

1203
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 3: Is not that said.

1204
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: So I've had so many conversations where I'll be like,

1205
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: I never say this on my podcast, but.

1206
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm constantly being like, do not let me,

1207
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 3: Like I would never.

1208
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 2: Say this because I'd be like, girl, I'll say that

1209
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 2: on a microphone, you can say it with me. I'm

1210
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 2: going to just let yeah.

1211
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Speaker 4: No, It's just it's tough because again, I want everyone

1212
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 4: to identify however they want. But like even for bisexually bisexual, bisexual,

1213
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 4: pan sexual, polysexual, ambisexual. They're using the word m spec

1214
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 4: and then also queer, and I'm like, real, said, have

1215
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:00,280
Speaker 4: none of it.

1216
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 3: It's definitely the abortion picture that you get. It's what

1217
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 3: that's what I think.

1218
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 4: It's multi gender spectrum. I think, hold on, I really

1219
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 4: should know this, I really should know this.

1220
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 2: What she was talking about, the little little the little

1221
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 2: sonogram is.

1222
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 4: Just to die just aspect we should wrap this up

1223
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 4: because I'm actually getting exhausted thinking about all of the difference.

1224
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, well, what the fuck am I if

1225
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: I wasn't hours yes, no, why? But I'm just saying, like,

1226
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: if I had to like pick another word, like I

1227
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: guess pan sex will be the next one. But then again,

1228
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 1: I'm not that attracted to I wouldn't say non binary because.

1229
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 3: You're non binary phobic.

1230
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 4: I'm just you don't know, non binary, canceled cy.

1231
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 2: Binary.

1232
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: But I was gonna say I haven't really found myself

1233
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: too attracted to trans people yet once in a blue

1234
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 1: someone I know, but like dating.

1235
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 3: Every single man in the history, that's it for sex though,

1236
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:02,439
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

1237
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: But I watch trans women, I'm watch them have sex

1238
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 2: with men. I don't necessarily want to have sex with them,

1239
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 2: but I want to be in the room and watch

1240
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:10,439
Speaker 2: them have sex.

1241
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 4: I think one thing I want to say to this,

1242
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 4: and what's made it so complicated is sexual attraction is

1243
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 4: not politically correct.

1244
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 3: You know, like who you are attracted.

1245
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 4: To, whether it is trans people, via race, via body size,

1246
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 4: via everything.

1247
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 2: We like.

1248
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 4: The reason why we have our attractions, I think it's

1249
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 4: a combination of genetic but then also society telling you

1250
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 4: this is what's attractive, and this is you know, these

1251
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 4: Western standards of beauty and all the shit.

1252
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,280
Speaker 3: But now you're older, you reach.

1253
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 4: A point that your attractions actually, let's say, are not

1254
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 4: as innate as you thought they were, and they are

1255
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 4: more because society has told you this.

1256
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 3: Well it's like, fuck, what do you do? Now?

1257
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 4: Do you start like you can't everybody? Well, well it's

1258
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 4: tough to change you. Like, your attractions are your attractions.

1259
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 4: You can't be like, oh I wish I was more

1260
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 4: attracted to trans people are non binary people, So I'm

1261
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 4: gonna start watching trans and not binary porn trying to

1262
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 4: condition my Like, what do you do even if society

1263
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 4: has told you these group of people are not attractive?

1264
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 2: Society told me that the majority of men are five

1265
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 2: to nine. It has not made me want them, motherfucker.

1266
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 2: I know that the toll motherfuckers are far in slim

1267
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 2: between or whatever the thing.

1268
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Speaker 4: I'm six four, just letting you know people where to

1269
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 4: find yeah, Zachary, not everyone.

1270
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 2: Where to purchase your book, where to follow you, where

1271
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 2: to find you, where to support you?

1272
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Speaker 3: Okay, So my name is Zachary Zaane.

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Speaker 4: My book boy Slot, a memoir and manifesto, coming out

1274
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Speaker 4: May ninth.

1275
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Speaker 3: You can pre order it everywhere books are stay have

1276
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 3: to be part of the lgbt Q. I A little plus.

1277
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 4: You absolutely do not need to be part of the

1278
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 4: lgbt Q I A two plus B plus P. I'm

1279
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 4: adding the V for vomit fetish as part of that.

1280
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Speaker 4: I know this is how I get canceled. No, it's

1281
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 4: this really is for absolutely everyone, and I made a

1282
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 4: painstaking effort to make this inclusive of straight men, straight women,

1283
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 4: by women, lesbians. I think we all have sexual shame,

1284
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 4: regardless of your gender or sexuality, and this speaks to

1285
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 4: all of it. And it's about, you know, embracing your

1286
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 4: sexuality and finding the lifestyle and the.

1287
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Speaker 3: People that works for you.

1288
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Speaker 2: Where can they purchase it?

1289
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 4: I mean Amazon, every bookstore, bookshop dot org if you

1290
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 4: want to support local bookstores, which you absolutely should do,

1291
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 4: and then you can follow me Twitter, Instagram, Zacharizane Underscore

1292
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 4: and the underscores at the end if you just google

1293
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Speaker 4: boy Slot, I have the digital zine that comes up,

1294
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Speaker 4: which is raunchy as fuck nonfiction, fucking I'm a part

1295
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Speaker 4: of that list is It's wild. And then Zacharzane dot

1296
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Speaker 4: com is my website.

1297
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Speaker 2: Hey, congrat I know I'm purchasing it right now. Yes,

1298
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 2: I got you. I love that everybody is working and

1299
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 2: striving and really pushing these conversations to the forefront.

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Speaker 3: I think, great chapter.

1301
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 2: I know even my even my mom, like when we

1302
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 2: talk about what I do, she almost envies the fact

1303
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 2: that I'm able to go through my twenties and thirties

1304
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 2: with the knowledge and security in my sexuality that she

1305
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 2: feels like was robbed from her just because of the

1306
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 2: time frame that she grew up there. Yeah, so I

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Speaker 2: love that these.

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Speaker 1: Are conversations your mom to be a woman's order or

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Speaker 1: order its place.

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Speaker 2: So y'all make sure, yes, y'allo.

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Speaker 4: And it is controversial. You're not gonna agree with everything,

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Speaker 4: and that's Okay, that's.

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Speaker 3: Okay, And I like books that I don't agree with.

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Speaker 4: You hopefully grew with most of it, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean. But I'm trying to push the envelope.

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Speaker 2: Well, the puking chapter, I'll tell you, that's where I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna be like this motherfucker crazy.

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Speaker 3: It is so funny. I said, this book is fucking hilarious.

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Speaker 1: The chapter names got me and it taught me a

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Speaker 1: lot about what to look for in a book.

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Speaker 3: Anyway.

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Speaker 1: I love I'm thinking about Golden Showers have to be

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Speaker 1: Check us out on patreon dot com backslash Horrible Decisions.

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Speaker 1: Every single month we do a live town hall where

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Speaker 1: we get to sit with you, have some drinks and

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Speaker 1: debunk the episodes we're gonna be talking about.

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Speaker 3: Zacharun so to be a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of podcast and Zachary, thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 2: He had another episode of horb Decisions Hi bye, and abortions.

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Speaker 2: Even I know doesn't want to allow black history African.

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Speaker 1: America, so that wasn't even going on at the time

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Speaker 1: that I meet her, and I got into it.

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Speaker 3: But I replied to her and I said.

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Speaker 1: Zoe, all of the women you work with and service

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Speaker 1: and are you serious? And she and I said, think

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Speaker 1: about it, like we're literally talking about kids that like

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Speaker 1: he wants to not like he was talking about anti

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Speaker 1: abortion laws and I was like, like, you think this

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Speaker 1: is okay for unsafe abortions, even down to women getting rape,

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Speaker 1: And she was like, this is not something that concerns me.

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Speaker 1: Every day, taxes do equal rights and da da da

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Speaker 1: da da. And I was like, wow, my nigga, Like

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Speaker 1: that shit was really wild because Zoe isn't I.

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Speaker 2: Believe she let me ask you a question, like we've

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Speaker 2: talked about some of your friends supporting Trump. Now Trump

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Speaker 2: has a celebrity about him, so I still love celebrity

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Speaker 2: apprentice to this day, so I get even the draw

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Speaker 2: to him to some people.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't some of my friends.

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Speaker 2: You talked about Anthony. I mean whatever, Well, there's been

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Speaker 2: conversations where you said you've sat at tables and you

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Speaker 2: realized that people were Republican and supported him as well.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah like dinners and shit. Yeah yeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: So I do want to know. I feel like thesensus

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Speaker 2: is so dangerous. Could you be friends or even acquaintances

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Speaker 2: with someone who supports somebody like no, and you.

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Speaker 1: Know what's interesting. Anthony and I did have a conversation

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Speaker 1: about him before and we were something about him came

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Speaker 1: up and he was like, bro, he's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's like the Trump shit. And he's like, he's like

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Speaker 1: for me, he was like, you know, I'm not paying

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Speaker 1: taxes all day.

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Speaker 2: He's very like old.

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Speaker 1: School Puerto Rican New York, you know. And he was like,

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Speaker 1: but what we're starting to see with the governors.

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Speaker 3: He like the radical shit.

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Speaker 1: He's like, absolutely not, and he said, I never thought

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Speaker 1: Trump was a radical guy. I was like, that's a

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Speaker 1: weird thing for you to say, considering I believe that

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Speaker 1: all these people were birthed under the Trump ring. To me,

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Speaker 1: these people feeling so much excitement about anti abortion laws

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Speaker 1: and keeping women anyway, I say all that. To say

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Speaker 1: that to me, it was interesting because he was like, remember,

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Speaker 1: and I said, but Trump made a comment that people

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Speaker 1: that got abortions before he was in office should go

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Speaker 1: to jail.

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Speaker 2: And he's like, it's he just did that to blow

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Speaker 2: smoke up. Everybody's asked to get an office.

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Speaker 3: He just wanted to do that, And it's possible.

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Speaker 2: It's possible. It's interesting because I mean, the more that

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Speaker 2: I'm excelling financially, which that's been a whole cluster fucking

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Speaker 2: therapy for me. I am socially liberal fiscally conservative. However,

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Speaker 2: in terms of like money versus the rights of human beings,

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Speaker 2: I still don't know how taxes is just the number

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Speaker 2: one response for why people want to sit here and say, oh, well, financially,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be a republic can vote when there's

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Speaker 2: so many bills and laws that are being pushed that

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Speaker 2: literally take away the rights of human bro I it

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Speaker 2: just doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 1: I've never I don't have an attitude of get up

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Speaker 1: and work. I don't have an attitude of get up

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Speaker 1: a work. I've never had that attitude. I don't believe

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Speaker 1: in that my father has worked his whole life to

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Speaker 1: only now have a social security of eleven hundred dollars

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Speaker 1: like my parents before I was having a good job

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Speaker 1: where like using food stamps and Medicaid and shit like that,

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Speaker 1: and like, I'm lucky enough to be able to take

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Speaker 1: care of them. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: there's somebody else that's a seventy one your old woman

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Speaker 1: like my mother, who can't afford the shit like that's

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Speaker 1: where my money is going out, hope.

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Speaker 3: So and if it doesn't, it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not about to fight about the shit when

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I'm the person that's

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Speaker 1: been on the front lines being like raw, raw, you

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Speaker 1: need to give your tax money up so.

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Speaker 3: I deserve it too.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Now, Am I gonna register my business and businesses of Florida?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Am I gonna try to cheat the shit? You know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Damn, But I'm at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, but I'm still gonna pay my taxes hope. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting and even that I'm always fused to police.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 2: It's strange because there's still this idea even now when

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Speaker 2: people travel abroad, like there's still this idea of ooh,

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Speaker 2: you ain't scared to go to another country. And it's

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Speaker 2: so crazy because America is really shitty compared to so

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Speaker 2: many other countries. Yes, there's a lot of countries where

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Speaker 2: women don't have rights and can't get education and have

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Speaker 2: to cover their whole bodies and men run everything. But

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Speaker 2: when you really dig into our not only judicial system,

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Speaker 2: but our government and how things are operated from a

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Speaker 2: federal and a state and a local municipal and how

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Speaker 2: everything is so different and divided. It's really scary what

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Speaker 2: laws are currently being pushed in past in our country

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Speaker 2: that make it completely unsafe and it's crazy. But I

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Speaker 2: did want to get into that doc because I know

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Speaker 2: our cinema normally sometimes goes askew, and there's so many

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Speaker 2: great topics for this specific for this specific documentary. Now

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Speaker 2: I want to give a spoiler alert.

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Speaker 1: It said a skew this whole last week, said Bursted Tomato,

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Speaker 1: and now she's on a skew?

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Speaker 2: Is that not a word? A skew is a word.

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Speaker 3: I just can't believe you.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe you used it after bursting