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Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys Break. Rob Phillips, joined today by Nate Newton,
Speaker 1: Dave Hellman, Mickey Spagnola, Kick Garrison producer next door inside
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Speaker 1: other little friends here. Yes, yes, up, homie, what's up?
Speaker 1: I got your polly? Oh you got a pull for me? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You should have them vote which apparel they like the most.
Speaker 1: Your shirt, minor Nates or Dave's hat. My hat's gonna
Speaker 1: win in a landslide, for whatever that's worth. It is
Speaker 1: a special hat. It's starting to get cold outside, Beanie weather.
Speaker 1: It is beenie season. And tell me this when you
Speaker 1: when was it colder when you got here than when
Speaker 1: you left wherever you live? No, but only because I
Speaker 1: live right down the street. It was freezing when I
Speaker 1: walked from the parking garage to hear this morning. There
Speaker 1: it is. We don't have tay to keep you in
Speaker 1: line today. I'm gonna do that. That's your job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, let's talk some Cowboys. It is the eve
Speaker 1: of Thursday night football. The moment is almost here. Color rush.
Speaker 1: Can the Cowboys end this crazy three game slide there on?
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that over the next hour. Any
Speaker 1: thoughts there off the top? Anybody feeling better about it
Speaker 1: than you did after Thanksgiving? I'll tell you this, after
Speaker 1: I saw what Washington's wearing tomorrow night. They should never
Speaker 1: win a football game? Is that right? I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: What is it? It's yellow yellow, mustard yellow with the
Speaker 1: burgundy numbers, burgundy helmets doing I mean, yes, that doesn't
Speaker 1: sound very good. That's a new look for them. The
Speaker 1: rumors they're trying to get out of it, well they've
Speaker 1: been out of it. Yeah, you're right. Can't they petition
Speaker 1: the league that we are not wearing this? I think
Speaker 1: Bruce Allen called the uniforms garish? So what what the players? However,
Speaker 1: you pronounced the players saw it and we're like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: the unit the administration didn't like the color, so get
Speaker 1: ready for it, all right? The Cowboys is kind of normal.
Speaker 1: It's just white with wood pants the one they've been wearing, right,
Speaker 1: blue stars on the numbers. Yeah, it's nothing. I thought
Speaker 1: it was gonna be all white. It's a clean look though. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, get ready for that yellow. Everything that happens
Speaker 1: is going to look like a flag gut thrown or something.
Speaker 1: Won't be any difficulty deciphering the teams. No, kind of
Speaker 1: like Thanksgiving where you had two shades of blue. To
Speaker 1: answer your question. Yeah, sorry, I feel a little. I
Speaker 1: feel better over the course of this week just looking,
Speaker 1: you know, you see the amount of guys missing for Washington,
Speaker 1: it's a lot like this first game they played. Seems
Speaker 1: like half their team is out and the ones that
Speaker 1: will play are hurt. You know, Trent might come back,
Speaker 1: but he's not at one hundred percent. It doesn't look
Speaker 1: like Jordan Reid's gonna play. Ari Quanjo's playing left guard
Speaker 1: for them. They're probably gonna be They're on their second
Speaker 1: or third center. They got a lot of issues. Having
Speaker 1: said all that, you know, Anthony Hitchins looks like he's
Speaker 1: gonna play. Their hopeful le Collins is gonna play despite
Speaker 1: not practicing. Having said all that, that deficit of seventy
Speaker 1: points over the last three games is just kind of
Speaker 1: hard for me to overcome in my mind, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought that they were gonna thought they
Speaker 1: were gonna have their backs against the wall and play
Speaker 1: well on Thanksgiving, and they did the opposite. So little, little,
Speaker 1: little more optimistic than I was over the weekend, but
Speaker 1: still not really sure what to expect. Eight. These are
Speaker 1: two imperfect teams right now, both banged up, as Dave said,
Speaker 1: and both have had losses this season, both five and six.
Speaker 1: But both all of you guys have been to more
Speaker 1: practices around these guys more than a half. What I
Speaker 1: would like to know, what's the fit in of this team?
Speaker 1: Where are they at? Mentally? They just talking, just talking
Speaker 1: to the guys during the week. I mean, give me
Speaker 1: some feed on that I can. I can about to
Speaker 1: tell you, Oh my ass out of that. What's been happening?
Speaker 1: Like the pulse of the locker room? Yeah, what's been happening?
Speaker 1: I mean I don't see a really down group during
Speaker 1: the week. Now we're only in there for forty five minutes, Dave.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't get the feeling that they've lost
Speaker 1: all hope. No, I don't get that. But I think
Speaker 1: there's frustration there though, especially and you know, somebody, we
Speaker 1: just did a mail bag where somebody asked and was like,
Speaker 1: you know, what's what's the deal? Why aren't these losses
Speaker 1: even competitive? And I don't have a great answer, and
Speaker 1: I'm not sure they do either, And I'm sure that's
Speaker 1: really frustrating. I think frustrations. Okay, yeah, they don't seem
Speaker 1: like they're down and out. Dude, would you guys there
Speaker 1: for the beginning of practice yesterday, I can't remember. I
Speaker 1: came in a couple minutes late late, but anyway, when
Speaker 1: they broke after they did their stretch and everything, I
Speaker 1: thought there was a little bit more bouncing their step
Speaker 1: that you know, they were kind of lively and short
Speaker 1: of playing it's the song gets Friday because it wasn't Friday,
Speaker 1: although it was Friday in their schedule. I thought they
Speaker 1: were moving around and I was kind of keeping an
Speaker 1: eye on just what Rob said, and I thought their
Speaker 1: nature was pretty good. Yeah, and see that that's that's
Speaker 1: the only thing that matters if they if they're feeling
Speaker 1: good about this situation, and their body language dictates that. Uh,
Speaker 1: because you you you you're facing two teams where uh,
Speaker 1: they don't have no true identity. Uh, they're going out
Speaker 1: playing the cheffling players. Whether it's injury or whether it's
Speaker 1: the competition thing you chef you cheffling players, so you
Speaker 1: don't know what you're gonna get. But as long as
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys come out and play hard, play smart,
Speaker 1: they should be all right. They they're at home on
Speaker 1: Thursday night, the fans that are there should be in
Speaker 1: our favor and just go out and play. Run the
Speaker 1: ball twenty five thirty thirty five times, make a few
Speaker 1: jessament is not doing the game. I'm talking. Let's see
Speaker 1: some of jestaments as the game go along. You know,
Speaker 1: in the first quarter, try to keep your defense off
Speaker 1: the field. Try your best to keep the defense off
Speaker 1: the field. And the reason I want to run the
Speaker 1: ball not just to say the defense. I want to
Speaker 1: run the ball because I think it gives Dak a
Speaker 1: better chance to be who he can be. Me. Yes,
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you this. Let's think about this
Speaker 1: question coming in just for you because you're you're the
Speaker 1: former player, you're the six time pro bowler, you're the champ,
Speaker 1: former champion. Have you ever been on a team in
Speaker 1: this type of situation? Like I know you played a
Speaker 1: long time. You're on some bad teams, you're on a
Speaker 1: one in fifteen team. You were on a championship team,
Speaker 1: multiple teams. Have you ever been on a team that
Speaker 1: had high expectations and then something happened in the middle
Speaker 1: of the season, whether it was a suspension, injury, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, the team doesn't look anything
Speaker 1: like itself, and there's this there's this lull that you
Speaker 1: guys went through, Like if you have you experienced that
Speaker 1: as a player, Nah, because we were either very bad
Speaker 1: very good, and even a year where we had where
Speaker 1: we lost an NFC championship game to San Francisco, we
Speaker 1: never had, Mick, Can you remember what we just had? Yes,
Speaker 1: I got two for you. Your first year nineteen eighty six. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were six and two. Yeah, they were six and
Speaker 1: two at the halfway point, tied with the Giants for
Speaker 1: first place, and they were playing the Giants and Danny
Speaker 1: White broke his wrist. Yeah, and they won one more
Speaker 1: game the rest of the season. That that right now,
Speaker 1: I was a rookie and I wasn't you weren't, really, Bob. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they you know, everything was moving around me and I
Speaker 1: was just seeing it and I'm kind of like a rookie, like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm just having to be a cowboy. I mean they
Speaker 1: had the number one offense in the National Football League. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator, um ah, what's out on them? What's amazing?
Speaker 1: But they were they Herschel Walker, Tony Dorset, yeah, Tony Hill.
Speaker 1: I mean they had it going and then they lost
Speaker 1: the quarterback and Steve Pullur couldn't keep them together. And
Speaker 1: then the other one that comes to mind is nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety seven. You know, this team had been to the
Speaker 1: playoffs from ninety one through ninety six, so six straight years,
Speaker 1: had won the NFC East title five straight years, and
Speaker 1: they get to the middle of the season, if I
Speaker 1: remember correctly, they were struggling some six and five, and
Speaker 1: you went to Greeny yeh man, freezing cold and got
Speaker 1: the snot beat out of you and it fell out.
Speaker 1: It would win another game. Let me say this, man,
Speaker 1: see the bad things like that, you forget them, You
Speaker 1: get rid of them quick. And I remember that game.
Speaker 1: I remember too, because I got I got hurt. I
Speaker 1: got hurt rep foot a half, I hurt my knee
Speaker 1: and when the wheels to come off and we we
Speaker 1: Switzer was our coach and his last year, yeah, Switzer
Speaker 1: was our coach and even though I love him to death,
Speaker 1: he had no control. The wheels had to came off.
Speaker 1: So but this is I think it's different here. I
Speaker 1: think the coach is secure, he has a whole of
Speaker 1: his team. He can still talk and relate the guys.
Speaker 1: Where it's coach Switzer, it was like, yeah, right, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, and we were old and we were at
Speaker 1: the end, so it was man just to just to
Speaker 1: grind away on those games. What was was living, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, just to grind away. But these
Speaker 1: guys here, nobody should be feeling that way. And just
Speaker 1: my outside looking in, like I said, I don't I'm
Speaker 1: not that close to the team, but nobody should be
Speaker 1: feeling that way, you know. Uh. Now, my my biggest
Speaker 1: question is and I hated to pose this question, that's
Speaker 1: it to my phillies yesterday. Are we good enough? You know?
Speaker 1: Are we That's that's been a question posed on our
Speaker 1: show this week, A million dollar question. Yeah, I would
Speaker 1: have said, I mean, I think I'll sit right here
Speaker 1: and say I thought, I'm pretty sure. I said four
Speaker 1: and two in the six games that Zeke wasn't here.
Speaker 1: Well that's not doable anymore. Now you're just trying to
Speaker 1: stick at five hundred, which will take some doing. And
Speaker 1: it's three wins in a row, two of which are
Speaker 1: on the road, so it's it's gonna be tough. I
Speaker 1: don't and I don't. I mean, like I said, I'm
Speaker 1: still a little shell shocked at the way this thing
Speaker 1: has gone. I mean, to lose three games is not
Speaker 1: a big deal. To lose them in this fashion is
Speaker 1: not something you see in the NFL. The first game
Speaker 1: back home without Zeke Philly, I felt like they kind
Speaker 1: of emptied the bucket, at least in the first half.
Speaker 1: I mean the not that they don't anything left this season,
Speaker 1: but they gave it everything they had emotionally in the
Speaker 1: first half, five straight three and ounce and then Philly
Speaker 1: just kind of swarmed him in the second half. And
Speaker 1: maybe that speaks to that's a nine and ten and
Speaker 1: one football team talent wise. It's just a different story
Speaker 1: when you're missing Zeke, when you're missing Sean Lee, things
Speaker 1: of that nature. I felt that more that the Eagles
Speaker 1: find found themselves. They were rushed in the first half,
Speaker 1: and I find I figured that the coach said, come on,
Speaker 1: let's let's run the ball, let's get ahead, let's stay
Speaker 1: even or get ahead of the chains and then let
Speaker 1: our quarterback. Though, let's don't let our quarterback try to
Speaker 1: win this game. Let's let's let the team win the game.
Speaker 1: What what what I feel is this right here? You
Speaker 1: cannot go away from what you think you are just
Speaker 1: because you're missing a player you you have if you're
Speaker 1: going to impose you will as a coach. And people say, well,
Speaker 1: he's not making no adjustments, but he don't want to
Speaker 1: make adjustments. He wants his team to stay as it is. Okay,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna stay, run first now more than ever,
Speaker 1: you have to become run run first. And I'll go
Speaker 1: back to what I said earlier two reasons. For your
Speaker 1: defense sake and for your quarterback sake, you have to.
Speaker 1: I don't care if if it's first in ten, run
Speaker 1: the ball. If you get two yards, so big, it's
Speaker 1: the second and eight, run the ball. If you get
Speaker 1: two yards, you're throwing anyway. Don't start getting fans since
Speaker 1: that all we're gonna throw the first down or we're
Speaker 1: gonna throw the second down because these guys are not
Speaker 1: up the party yet as the offensive line. So guess
Speaker 1: what now? You you third and twenty five because we
Speaker 1: don't got a penalty here, we don't got a sack
Speaker 1: over here. I'd rather go down the field with thirty six,
Speaker 1: third and five and trying to complete that then the
Speaker 1: thirty nine, the third and eighths to third and fifteens.
Speaker 1: Run the ball for two reasons, to keep your quarterback
Speaker 1: standing and to keep your defense giving them a chance.
Speaker 1: You got the best partner in the league. He's doing
Speaker 1: it right. Job. That's an interesting thought because I feel
Speaker 1: like most people would say, and I hear you, but
Speaker 1: I'm same. You could also argue you're setting yourself up
Speaker 1: to be punting a lot if you're just trying to
Speaker 1: run into a concrete wall. And the running game hasn't
Speaker 1: been bad at all over this three game losing streak,
Speaker 1: but coupled with what the passing game doing is, you
Speaker 1: can't say it's been good enough, can you. I think
Speaker 1: they're averaging four point seven yards of carry without Zeke
Speaker 1: the season, so it's not bad. That's not bad. Mickey's
Speaker 1: point is that how many times have they run it
Speaker 1: into for a touchdown? None, I believe, or well, Dak yeah, no, oh,
Speaker 1: you're right, well Rod yeah, but it was a two
Speaker 1: yard run yeah, yeah, right, And what was Dax It
Speaker 1: was inside ten Yeah, something like that. And they started
Speaker 1: that drive at the twenty and the one time they
Speaker 1: did with an explosive play, he got called back for
Speaker 1: holding last week. Yeah, I'm one with you, mag I agree.
Speaker 1: If if if everything was intanch is Zeke was going
Speaker 1: and everything was attack, I agree with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Everything ain't intact. They mentally not on par I got
Speaker 1: to make it as simple, you know, and as easy
Speaker 1: as I can, because you know, at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, when this season is over, it's one guy
Speaker 1: that I got to have that's one hundred percent ready
Speaker 1: to go. That's Dak. I got to have him ready
Speaker 1: to go. And and I know from playing in this league,
Speaker 1: it don't take year. Offensive lineman, you can beat me
Speaker 1: down over the year. You know. That's what I'm built
Speaker 1: to do. I'm built to get with you, right. I
Speaker 1: don't think quarterbacks are built to be hit the way
Speaker 1: this kid is being hit in this second year now.
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman survived it. Yeah, and you know pay for
Speaker 1: it at the end. But I don't want Dak, and
Speaker 1: I know he has supreme confidence, but man, I want
Speaker 1: him more than that after the season. So and that's
Speaker 1: kind of being seven as Nate being seven, I think
Speaker 1: I think opposing defenses are just fine with the Cowboys
Speaker 1: running the ball. They almost hope they just run the ball.
Speaker 1: And the longest run Nate last week was nine yards.
Speaker 1: They're not getting anywhere. And I understand being persistent, but
Speaker 1: at some point, when the game gets away from you
Speaker 1: in the second half, you can't just keep running for
Speaker 1: three or four yards. And the other teams scoring touchdowns
Speaker 1: from forty two yards out, well, they abandoned the run
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter last time. If you're behind by
Speaker 1: twenty eight to six, what are you gonna do? If
Speaker 1: they were hind by thirty seven to nine, are you
Speaker 1: gonna do? I'm with you, I'm with you, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: But Jason Getty, we was ten to seven this and
Speaker 1: then Jason Garrett said, we disclose so seconds. So the
Speaker 1: second half we felt good about what we were doing
Speaker 1: until the game becomes a blowout. You got to run
Speaker 1: the ball until it Once it becomes a blowout, then
Speaker 1: you do whatever you gotta do. And it's a thin
Speaker 1: line between when do you decide the game is to blowout.
Speaker 1: I've seen us be down ten twelve points and I
Speaker 1: know it is. Zeke is there. So we don't consider
Speaker 1: the blowout because we feel we in every game, well,
Speaker 1: you know what, we got to keep that same mentality
Speaker 1: because and I'm saying that, I'm saying it's from a
Speaker 1: purely selfish point of view. It's gonna come a point
Speaker 1: with Dad gonna say no more. Whether he want to
Speaker 1: say it out loud, he gonna say it any way.
Speaker 1: He started to throw that ball, I promise you. I
Speaker 1: don't have the number, but I guarantee you in the
Speaker 1: first half of these last three games, I bet it,
Speaker 1: it's been very close to a fifty fifty split and
Speaker 1: I'm the ball, and I need for it to be
Speaker 1: that same way in the third quarter until it becomes
Speaker 1: a blowout. Almost like you're just you're game planning for
Speaker 1: an eventual blowout. You're like, well, let's run the ball.
Speaker 1: You have to know it, like well trying you're trying
Speaker 1: to keep him off a dock. To some he's been
Speaker 1: sacked twelve times in fourteen fourteen twelve times in how
Speaker 1: calm twelve quarter or something like that, because we've not
Speaker 1: been pass blocking well in fourteen sacks and twelve, our
Speaker 1: receivers ain't been getting open. If the same guys that
Speaker 1: aren't pass blocking, well are they run blocking? Well they
Speaker 1: run blocking? Are good enough? Because you know? And I'm not.
Speaker 1: And it's always the eye test, because that's what the
Speaker 1: coach is looking at. Right, Jason Garrett is looking at
Speaker 1: the eye test, and I'm with you. I'm with you.
Speaker 1: It comes a point where you gotta pass the ball
Speaker 1: just to stay even, or you gotta pass the ball
Speaker 1: to win the game. The question is, if you got
Speaker 1: a defense that ain't stopping nobody, you got to slow
Speaker 1: the game down. Be it by you break the hubble
Speaker 1: with ten seconds left? Are you get are you run
Speaker 1: the ball? However you want to do it? You gotta
Speaker 1: save your defense. You gotta save your defense because no
Speaker 1: matter what you do, teams have been able to figure
Speaker 1: out that we got we can get them doing this
Speaker 1: and doing that is Uh. A Woozier is a combination
Speaker 1: of woods and all the competition is supposed to have
Speaker 1: them gonna gonna make that change. I don't think so. Uh.
Speaker 1: It's about giving guys opportunity and trying to figure out
Speaker 1: a way to win the game. I agree with you.
Speaker 1: If Ezekiel Elliott was playing running back right now. But
Speaker 1: I just don't know that they have the juice in
Speaker 1: that running game to try to dominate the game that way.
Speaker 1: And I get you know, it's football one on one
Speaker 1: that you don't want to have your quarterback get hit.
Speaker 1: But this guy's built like a truck, Nate. I mean,
Speaker 1: if anybody can handle and it's twenty four year old
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, Like I think, yeah, you gotta give you
Speaker 1: gotta give him a chance, you know, I gotta, I
Speaker 1: gotta rap, I gotta raptor. And long as I'm running
Speaker 1: over VW bugs, I'm pretty good that Matt eighteen will
Speaker 1: have hit me by eight times. I'm gonna be like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. But I'm not saying don't throw it.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, give us a better percentage. Third and eight
Speaker 1: is way worse than third and five or third and four.
Speaker 1: Give us a better percentage. You're right about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's all I'm axing for. I'm not saying we can't
Speaker 1: throw the ball, but give us a better percentage. They
Speaker 1: do need to get some chunk plays down the field.
Speaker 1: I'll say that they've had three of twenty plus yard
Speaker 1: passes in the last three games, and La hit eight
Speaker 1: on them alone on Thanksgiving. They've got to be able
Speaker 1: to stretch the field to some degree and eight and
Speaker 1: and be balanced. I agree with you there. Let's take
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Speaker 1: how about that man? Good guy? So I ain't like
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Speaker 1: fat dude, but I hated me. What do you I mean?
Speaker 1: Do you think they're just trying to tank the rest
Speaker 1: the season? Make sure they do another day? I get,
Speaker 1: I get wanting to see what your rookie quarterback can do,
Speaker 1: but why not just let him play? I don't go
Speaker 1: play at a Geno Smith. You know what he is,
Speaker 1: I know what, I know what the head coach he
Speaker 1: is too fired. What's that name? He's a Macado. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't want to cuss on this show man and
Speaker 1: never have it all. It's it's strange. What's going on
Speaker 1: up there. Cat was going to try to get less
Speaker 1: strange this week get a win over Washington. We'll see
Speaker 1: if it happens. Mick, can you break down the injuries
Speaker 1: for us? I've got the injury report right here, and
Speaker 1: it looks like Lele Collins has not practiced the past
Speaker 1: three days. They only gave us two days of injury report.
Speaker 1: But I think maybe they're trying to get them to Thursday,
Speaker 1: not to get wear and tear on that back. So
Speaker 1: we should find out today what the official game day
Speaker 1: designation is. My question. My guess it's to be questionable.
Speaker 1: Unless you guys disagree with that. I completely agree with you.
Speaker 1: Malik Collins limited all week. I think he'll be good
Speaker 1: to go. Jason Justin Durant still in concussion protocol, has
Speaker 1: in practice all week. I think he's out. I don't
Speaker 1: think he makes it back. Anthony Hitchins a little optimism
Speaker 1: yesterday after missing practice a couple of days with the groin.
Speaker 1: I think they were trying to just rest him up.
Speaker 1: He was limited yesterday. I saw him doing those individual drills.
Speaker 1: He seemed to be moving just fine, so I think
Speaker 1: he's got a chance. Sean Lee still gonna be out.
Speaker 1: So he'll miss his fourth consecutive games. Zach Martin, if
Speaker 1: he's good today, I say he's out of the concussion protocol.
Speaker 1: They'll probably list him as questionable, but I think he'll
Speaker 1: make it. Tyrant Smith still trying to play through the
Speaker 1: groin and back and he sure looks stiff yesterday, but
Speaker 1: they've got him limited and then he'll go again. And
Speaker 1: then Ryan Switzer still limited with an ankle, and um,
Speaker 1: you know he was kind of moving around. I thought,
Speaker 1: did you? Yeah? He, I mean he was moving. He
Speaker 1: was making his cuts and doing the little donuts that
Speaker 1: they like to do before practice really gets going. If
Speaker 1: I had to guess, I think we'll see two outs
Speaker 1: and a bunch of questions. Yeah. And I think the
Speaker 1: two outs, I mean, obviously those two guys are out,
Speaker 1: and I think most of the questionables should should be
Speaker 1: ready to go. We'll find out about Leil Collins. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Redskins wise Dave mentioned Jordan Reid being banged up this week.
Speaker 1: Could see more Vernon Davis for them. They've got to
Speaker 1: see this list, yeah, get you. Eleven guys either limited
Speaker 1: or did not practice, and five of those guys in
Speaker 1: that category are their starting offensive Lineman. Yep, so including
Speaker 1: two starters Rulier and if I'm pronouncing it correctly, and
Speaker 1: Trent Williams. No, they're all starters. Sureff No, I mean
Speaker 1: guys that sat out there. Oh you mean did not? Yeah,
Speaker 1: two guys did not, but the other guys were limited.
Speaker 1: Is Ryan arrogant plan? Yep, it's zigger hood plan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Junior can let plan? Yes, Josh Norman back, yes, Okay,
Speaker 1: tell you something, man, let me tell you something. That's why,
Speaker 1: that's why we have to be careful in how we
Speaker 1: handle that rock. We can't put it on the ground.
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about offensively. We can't put it on
Speaker 1: the ground. We cannot have those holding penalties, we cannot
Speaker 1: have no off sides. We have to play nice, solid
Speaker 1: offensive football. I mean, because I'm telling you their offensive
Speaker 1: line coach gonna have a scheme that he can deal
Speaker 1: that his offensive line will be able to deal with.
Speaker 1: That's just how good he is. So I'm not worried
Speaker 1: about them, Jamison Crowder, It's come to life. Their quarterback
Speaker 1: is lighting things up. So I'm not worrying about the
Speaker 1: offensive line. What I'm worrying about is if this team
Speaker 1: and I'm sticking to what they said, and what they
Speaker 1: told is this team was built an our team offensively
Speaker 1: to take the pressure off our defense. We gotta make
Speaker 1: sure we've keep the pressure off of our defense so
Speaker 1: they can compete. All right. So having said that, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: it was three nothing at halftime, Yes it was. Cowboys
Speaker 1: had to kick off. Chargers had the ball for nine minutenutes. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: I'll do it, and now it's nine nothing. That's right,
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys get the ball. They drive to a first
Speaker 1: and ten at the forty. One of the charters did
Speaker 1: a little passing. Most of it was passing. First down,
Speaker 1: Alfred Morris gains five yards. Second down against the Blitz,
Speaker 1: he gets two yards third and three at the thirty four.
Speaker 1: They run dak On a read option keeper for a
Speaker 1: touchdown holding call thirteen. All right, what are you gonna
Speaker 1: do on third and go? All right? Got as what happens? Uh?
Speaker 1: He gets pressured, Uh, and he has to throw the
Speaker 1: ball away. You punt, all right? You can't even kick
Speaker 1: a field goal? Right? The Chargers get the ball back
Speaker 1: and the next time the bout Cowboys touched the ball,
Speaker 1: it's sixteen to nothing and there's one forty two left
Speaker 1: in the third quarter. Cool, So now what do you do.
Speaker 1: You run Morris for five yards, you throw uh an
Speaker 1: out pass, and you get a hold on Collins. Now
Speaker 1: it's second and fifteen at the fourteen right now, and
Speaker 1: see what they did second and fifteen. They threw a
Speaker 1: screen pass to Morris for thirteen yards. Now it's third
Speaker 1: and well my numbers, So off third and two, they
Speaker 1: get a first down, they drive down two and they
Speaker 1: score a touchdown. All right, but now there's twelve forty
Speaker 1: eight left to go, and it was the school okay,
Speaker 1: so they had to get out of the running sixty.
Speaker 1: We got a sixteen and six, okay, and then the
Speaker 1: Chargers make it twenty two to sell. Well, that's what
Speaker 1: happens when you give up scoring drives of seventy seven
Speaker 1: ninety two yards, seventy five yards. Not only are they
Speaker 1: building a lead, but they're they're wasting time off the
Speaker 1: clock seventy five, eighty five and ninety against the Eagles
Speaker 1: if you want to take it back four days. And
Speaker 1: you can't blame that on the offense. The defense not
Speaker 1: getting off the field, they're not putting pressure on opposing quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: I know that it's first of all, I don't know
Speaker 1: that this would make all the difference in the world
Speaker 1: based on the way they've been playing, and ill it's
Speaker 1: also not completely up to them. I mean, it's a
Speaker 1: fifty fifty shot. But might we see a different strategy
Speaker 1: at the coin toss in this game after the way
Speaker 1: the last two have gone. I would be in favor
Speaker 1: of that, I think, But I and I loved. I
Speaker 1: loved the strategy of taking the ball to start the
Speaker 1: game last year because it was working. It's not working now.
Speaker 1: It last year reminded me of Nate's old teams. You
Speaker 1: get the ball to start the game, you have a
Speaker 1: five minute drive, you score touchdown, it's seven nothing. That's
Speaker 1: what you guys did every week. But maybe I'm oversimplifying,
Speaker 1: but Mickey just spelled it out for you, like a
Speaker 1: nine minute scoring drive that it results in a touchdown
Speaker 1: and puts you down by two possessions right off the
Speaker 1: bat in the second half. And how many games this
Speaker 1: year have we seen something like that happen? So what
Speaker 1: if that happens with the first possession. It's every It's
Speaker 1: entirely possible, And like I said, it's entirely possible. That
Speaker 1: the other team wins and defers and then there's nothing
Speaker 1: you can do. I get that, but if you're put
Speaker 1: in that situation, I think you try to maximize the
Speaker 1: strength of your team. The Cowboys forced five three and
Speaker 1: outs against the Eagles. They managed to hold the Chargers
Speaker 1: to three points. Even if they had made that missed
Speaker 1: field goal, you're still talking about six points. They've been
Speaker 1: much better at getting stops in the first half than
Speaker 1: the second. I don't think you can argue that. So
Speaker 1: I try to play with the strengths of my team. Again,
Speaker 1: would it make a huge difference. I don't think you
Speaker 1: can say that they've lost these three games by seventy points,
Speaker 1: but hey, makes it up and try for something. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: what's the strength of your team right now? Who? What's
Speaker 1: the strength of your teams? A great question. I think
Speaker 1: they're trying. They're trying to figure that out. Right, it's
Speaker 1: your offense, Well, it's supposed to be okay right now.
Speaker 1: I think the strength of your team is that you
Speaker 1: can still run the ball fairly effectively, and you have
Speaker 1: a versatile quarterback that hasn't been playing great, And why
Speaker 1: don't you want to put them on the field because
Speaker 1: they haven't because you've been because yourself at a disadvantage.
Speaker 1: With the way these games have been, the third quarter
Speaker 1: by far has been their worst quarter. Receiveless we get open,
Speaker 1: we wouldn't be having his issue. You think that's the
Speaker 1: main issue. I catch the ball when when when it
Speaker 1: does hit the hand. First of all, we dealing with
Speaker 1: a quarterback that's still finding his way in the NFL.
Speaker 1: He is a safe quarterback. So when he see a
Speaker 1: window that normally Philip Rivers have learned and Tony Romo
Speaker 1: have learned, any quarterback that is better than the average
Speaker 1: have to learn. He's still deciding, Okay, is that open now?
Speaker 1: He said, okay, what I don't have the opportunity? Now
Speaker 1: I don't. It's like I gotta throw this ball. So
Speaker 1: now he's trying to get it out of his hand.
Speaker 1: So you have to make plays for him. He's still
Speaker 1: a young quarterback. You have to make plays not that
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty. Forget him throwing the deads and he
Speaker 1: got the back shoulder. I'm talking about just him fitting
Speaker 1: into a window. You know, now you got to come
Speaker 1: up with some of those plays. You have to come
Speaker 1: up with some of those plays and because now he
Speaker 1: don't know he got pressure coming from the rush, he
Speaker 1: got even smaller windows. So what do you do? What
Speaker 1: do you do? Receive us have to make play. If
Speaker 1: you I don't mind, I would probably have a different
Speaker 1: attitude if we were catching the ball. If we were
Speaker 1: catching the ball, I would have a different attitude. But
Speaker 1: you're not catching the ball. What are you doing to
Speaker 1: your quarterback? It's some of that the Zeke effect too, though,
Speaker 1: that they've taken away that big play element and maybe
Speaker 1: in the play actions not as much of a factor
Speaker 1: as it was, and it's not as easy as for
Speaker 1: the receipt I agree one hundred percent. I agree one
Speaker 1: hundred percent. But still as a wide receiver, you gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta catch some of those balls, and maybe maybe
Speaker 1: it's something hey hould have been a great catch, will
Speaker 1: make the great catch you you At the end of
Speaker 1: the day, it's one person that's got to be standing.
Speaker 1: Do it. If this man ain't standing, now, you got
Speaker 1: to go out and find another one, Rain Dakota, this
Speaker 1: guy yeah, number four, Yeah, if he ain't standing. At
Speaker 1: the end, and when all of this clears, when all
Speaker 1: of dust settle and Zeke is back and and I
Speaker 1: ain't teking I this year. I'm to my year going
Speaker 1: into whatever we're going to if that man there ain't
Speaker 1: standing and feeling strong and standing at the podium saying
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find out what's wrong and I'm gonna figure
Speaker 1: it out. Did you get the impression just talking to
Speaker 1: him the other day that his confidence is shaken. No,
Speaker 1: he's he's he's he's the same guy. He doesn't ever
Speaker 1: strike me as not confident. He's a walk of life.
Speaker 1: He's the most even killed guy I've ever been around
Speaker 1: five in the last two games. And I gotta tell
Speaker 1: people a lot of times, it ain't about what you say,
Speaker 1: It's about what you're doing. Well, that's fair. No, that's
Speaker 1: one hundred percent fair. And I'm not sitting here trying
Speaker 1: to tell you that it's playing well. But I think
Speaker 1: his response to it has been the response that you
Speaker 1: that you would like to see at least. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: with that. I'm with that. I mean, I'm with what
Speaker 1: y'all saying. That's why I ask y'all, what are y'all?
Speaker 1: But as time go on, we gotta throw I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not one of the people that oh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we gotta throw. But if it's if it's third and
Speaker 1: four or five or third and two, I don't run it.
Speaker 1: And if you have to get up the field, so
Speaker 1: be it. We get out the field, well then that's
Speaker 1: more pressure in your defense to get stops. And you're
Speaker 1: facing a guy Kirk Cousins that he will make mistakes,
Speaker 1: he will make turnovers, but he also can rack up
Speaker 1: yardage and score points on you. So they got one,
Speaker 1: they got one, They got one and a half receivers.
Speaker 1: They got a Crowder who's playing nice. They got Dotson
Speaker 1: who is coming along well, they got a tight end Davis.
Speaker 1: Who's who's doing it as an old man? Read is
Speaker 1: I don't know is he playing or is he questionable? Read?
Speaker 1: Who's that? Is? He? It doesn't And you got a
Speaker 1: guy and Pete Ryan that will put the ball on
Speaker 1: the ground. They've lost. They stood running back in practiced
Speaker 1: all week. I don't think you got a guy that
Speaker 1: can put the ball on the ground. You got a
Speaker 1: guy that can put the ball on the ground. Pete
Speaker 1: Rynder put the ball on the ground. Don't let him
Speaker 1: get started. I think he got one hundred yards ord
Speaker 1: one hundred yards last week. But Jason Jamison Crowder. He
Speaker 1: had a decent game against US, fast time this time,
Speaker 1: he he but he's not Keenan Allen. You know, he's
Speaker 1: not Keenan Allen. So he's you know, I talked to
Speaker 1: somebody and you know, a defensive back, and he made
Speaker 1: it seem so simple. He say, you know what, shouldn't
Speaker 1: win man the man to put a guy on top
Speaker 1: of him? No, goddess, well he be. He say, whether
Speaker 1: it's like, say, is it that simple? He say, well,
Speaker 1: the where I play, it's that simple. But maybe the
Speaker 1: way we do it over here is not that simple.
Speaker 1: Way way too much zone. I thought, one man, one man,
Speaker 1: should not this dude. This dude is not the dude
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Other dude, other dude. That's what still is.
Speaker 1: He's not that guy. But he is a good receiver.
Speaker 1: I steal is a solid receiver. I spent all last
Speaker 1: week saying that about Keenan Allen, and he made me
Speaker 1: look like an idiot. So you know, I mean and
Speaker 1: I mean, I agree with you. I agree with you.
Speaker 1: But the way that they've been the way the opposition
Speaker 1: has been hitting these chunk players is not we It's
Speaker 1: a fine line with all of us say, it's a
Speaker 1: fine line. How much do you run? How much do
Speaker 1: you pass? But it still goes back to this right here.
Speaker 1: And I've asked everybody asks me. I've asked you, and
Speaker 1: I've asked you defensively. Are we just blowing smoke because
Speaker 1: they're just not good enough? Well, let's answer that question
Speaker 1: when we come back. Well they are for a half.
Speaker 1: Let's answer that question when we come back. What a
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Speaker 1: have never. I would have never he'll go to Apple
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Speaker 1: guessed that Nate Newton would talk to me about Assassin's Creed.
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Speaker 1: like it. I like it all right. Let's answered Nate's question. Defense.
Speaker 1: They play well for a half. I think they've had
Speaker 1: a lead in one of these three losses, and then
Speaker 1: it's a close deficit at halftime, and then the damn
Speaker 1: breaks and it's the offense involved too. But it's seventy
Speaker 1: two to six in the second half of the last
Speaker 1: three games. How much you put on the defense? And
Speaker 1: what's wrong? Besides not having Sean Lee? We all know
Speaker 1: that's a problem. So a big problem is that everything
Speaker 1: is it just like not having Zeke. It can't be everything, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, like the results tell you that it's everything,
Speaker 1: But how can that be? So how can you be
Speaker 1: good enough to hold the Chiefs to seventeen points one
Speaker 1: week and and everything that's come after? You know one guy,
Speaker 1: and I know how good Sean Lee is. I know
Speaker 1: he's an all pro. I know he's a tackle machine.
Speaker 1: I watched him rack up like twenty five against the
Speaker 1: Giants last year. He single handedly won the Eagles game
Speaker 1: at home in twenty sixteen. It's stuff like that where
Speaker 1: he pushes the Eagles out a field goal range, which
Speaker 1: sets up the offense to tie the game, to go
Speaker 1: to overtime. Like he's a big time player, But how
Speaker 1: can it go from above average to nothing? Well without
Speaker 1: one guy. I'll just say this, you guys chime in.
Speaker 1: The biggest correlation to me when he hasn't been in
Speaker 1: the game has been run defense. Yeah, been bad when
Speaker 1: he hasn't been in the game specifically, But you know
Speaker 1: the Chargers, I don't know. Did they not have to throw?
Speaker 1: They run? They ran a courtesy They gave you all
Speaker 1: some courtesy. Run They did not run. They didn't have
Speaker 1: to run. They ran five yards per carry. They had
Speaker 1: eight at half time, ran thirty three times for eighty
Speaker 1: one yards, and they held Melvin Gordon to three yards
Speaker 1: of care. That's about what he's been averaging this. No
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no no. The quarterback held him quarterback.
Speaker 1: They only had eight yards in the first half. Of
Speaker 1: the first play of the second half, they ran for eleven.
Speaker 1: Where I was going was Shaun Lee wouldn't have stopped
Speaker 1: all those chunk plays in the passing game last week.
Speaker 1: Most likely not not everything, but they were seeing I
Speaker 1: bet if you go back and look, the majority of
Speaker 1: those plays were busted coverages. They weren't like getting beat,
Speaker 1: they were busted coverage. And see that that that's what
Speaker 1: irritates you to death, and that and that, and that's
Speaker 1: part of not being good enough. One thing you should
Speaker 1: the first thing a young player should understand about this
Speaker 1: league is my technique. Technique may be bad. I may
Speaker 1: be not the greatest tackler, but I'm at least know
Speaker 1: where to line up and who to get now you
Speaker 1: and that takes some inner inner thought. Okay, I at
Speaker 1: least know it's third and fifteen. Okay, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: get third and thirty back off of this guy, even
Speaker 1: though it's a zone. I'm gonna move up a little close.
Speaker 1: And if I pass off a guy, I'm gonna least
Speaker 1: make sure, Hey, switch switch switch and call it guy Nay,
Speaker 1: you're switching to Jones. Switch switching Jones, Jone. I learned
Speaker 1: him on something. Jones should be saying, Hey, I got you,
Speaker 1: got you joining, I gotta switch somebody. Part of being
Speaker 1: good enough is knowing what to do. So do you
Speaker 1: think shuffling in the secondary this week does anything? Because
Speaker 1: it looks like that's what's gonna happen. I'd be interested
Speaker 1: to see how they play those guys, Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: think from a rookie standpoint, they're better off playing man
Speaker 1: than they are zone. I agree. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know what they were playing on that first series of
Speaker 1: the second half, because they got him to third and two,
Speaker 1: and then they got durant on Eckler is that his name? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and he did a stop and go on him and
Speaker 1: nobody helped him. Yeah, and you got, you know, your
Speaker 1: ten year veteran linebacker trying to run with their speedback.
Speaker 1: That's a great scheme on LA's part. It's like they mismatch,
Speaker 1: they hit him with something, you know. And then the
Speaker 1: next time they had him fourth and one, and and
Speaker 1: then there was the previous series at the end of
Speaker 1: the first half and they got the it's it's third
Speaker 1: and four, third and five, and they got the interference
Speaker 1: call on on Anthony Brown. They run a similar offense
Speaker 1: fourth and one and it gets interference call. They run
Speaker 1: a similar offense to hours. Pieces of their offense fits
Speaker 1: into offense. Fellow, I'm gonna be honest with you, Please
Speaker 1: do nay. They they they they they did not run
Speaker 1: the magnificent scheme. It's just guys got to care enough
Speaker 1: to least compete in line up. You know you got
Speaker 1: you got to line I see you. It stirred and
Speaker 1: whatever I got you, Yeah, you got if you motion away,
Speaker 1: if you motion away, and I have to seal down
Speaker 1: because I can't go all across the field. I got
Speaker 1: to seal down. I'm gonna let somebody know it's called communication.
Speaker 1: Two years ago you're here, Uh the Devon's accordity to say,
Speaker 1: it's all about communication, It's all about talking, being alert.
Speaker 1: That's where my man is so great. He's babbling, he's talking,
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about Sean. I'm talking about Sean Lee.
Speaker 1: He's talking. Somebody's got to be talking. Somebody's got to
Speaker 1: be saying, fella's alert to this, alert to that. Rod
Speaker 1: spoke to that during the week. He said, there's got
Speaker 1: communication breakdowns and obviously technique is part of it too.
Speaker 1: And you have situations too like the forty two yard
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen touchdown and run. That's the one that I
Speaker 1: can't stop thinking of. Well, I mean, it's just guys
Speaker 1: trying too hard to make a play hit, you know,
Speaker 1: get the big hit instead of just making the tackle,
Speaker 1: and you miss five tackles on the way of the
Speaker 1: end zone. You know, those those things are correctable at least, right, Mick.
Speaker 1: Does anybody ever play zone against the Cowboys? Sure doesn't
Speaker 1: seem that way, right, It's always man with safeties over
Speaker 1: the top. Yeah, Yes, the Cowboys are playing this zone
Speaker 1: stuff and guys are running you got the tight end
Speaker 1: running wide open across the field, you know, and don't
Speaker 1: play it well. Going going all the way back to
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, I feel like that's been They're they're better
Speaker 1: in man than they are in zone, right, Okay, been
Speaker 1: a theme for years. So we may see a lot
Speaker 1: more a cheetoh this week. Yes, what do you guys
Speaker 1: think of him as a man corner? Seeing enough? Well,
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, I know you have him and he's big.
Speaker 1: He's big and athletic, which would typically mean maybe he
Speaker 1: could be a good man. But I have seen enough
Speaker 1: of him to know how I should feel. And he
Speaker 1: can run. Yeah, exactly. I tell y, it's here. Tell
Speaker 1: 's here, and I'm gonna tell you what make what
Speaker 1: change the face of what's going on. If our two safeties,
Speaker 1: we're good. If our two safeties were good. I mean better,
Speaker 1: not just good, but better than good. It'll be a
Speaker 1: whole different It'll be a whole different atmosphere out there.
Speaker 1: It just would. I mean, you can't be guessing as
Speaker 1: a safety because you are to clean up. You clean
Speaker 1: up all messes. But when you are part of the mess,
Speaker 1: it just looks worse. Just you. You saw the player
Speaker 1: on Brown where the safety came late, where Woods came
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, he got caught underneath. This is the
Speaker 1: This is what bothered me is I looked at the him.
Speaker 1: Phillips dropped back and he didn't look at nobody, just like, okay, safety,
Speaker 1: I can see it. I know they bet underneath. No,
Speaker 1: you're right, I think I'm not. We're gonna need to
Speaker 1: get Nate a headset. That's true. Nobody. Nobody's gonna confuse
Speaker 1: Barry Church with Darren Woodson. But you miss a guy
Speaker 1: like that in a season like this. There were fewer
Speaker 1: big plays when he was in the game. Last year
Speaker 1: when he had the broken arm, there were an increase.
Speaker 1: They didn't they didn't give up chunk players. I gonna
Speaker 1: tell you what, don't see that That the reason I
Speaker 1: refused to bring up these guys name is because that's
Speaker 1: just wished for thinking and and we had Zeke, so
Speaker 1: we ain't got Zeke. These guys gotta understand line up.
Speaker 1: See if step one, I'm gonna know what to do
Speaker 1: and I'm a tack on my guy, you will be
Speaker 1: amazed if we just know what to do and tack
Speaker 1: our guy, how much difference in the the landscape will look? Well,
Speaker 1: this is versus not knowing what to do and then
Speaker 1: you ain't tackling too because that that don't that don't see.
Speaker 1: I got you gotta get me past the basics first. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is where you line up. This is how you
Speaker 1: handle this. If they go in motion, this is what
Speaker 1: you do because these coaches go over every ounce of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah they do. So this is what you do. You
Speaker 1: you don't tell me at eleven ten eleven games in
Speaker 1: you don't understand that. Now it's the effort of do
Speaker 1: you want to tackle? And when and when and when?
Speaker 1: This keenan Allen got ran through five people. I put
Speaker 1: my clothed, my pad, y'all zip close your pad. Yeah
Speaker 1: we got five stop stop right? And I told Brodest,
Speaker 1: I said, Brodest, you keep charting. I want to. I
Speaker 1: want to watch a game with you and brought us.
Speaker 1: That's the saddest thing about being at the stadium is
Speaker 1: that I don't want to get to watch with y'all.
Speaker 1: I want to know what that's like. You just well
Speaker 1: see we sit two different places. See, because I don't
Speaker 1: want to brod Us always give me. You know that
Speaker 1: was fifteen yards. You know I've dated the first half
Speaker 1: of last year. Hey, fifteen yards. You know we charted
Speaker 1: the plays and so he given me. I'm We're on
Speaker 1: the other side of the room, and I just tell
Speaker 1: Brad said broder no, not you. You have to know what.
Speaker 1: That's enough for me. Thanks, that's enough. Fight. Now you
Speaker 1: can dispute me on everything. Me and Mick will go
Speaker 1: back and forth, Me and you will go back and
Speaker 1: forth about whether we should run a pass. But you
Speaker 1: can't dispute me on You should know your plays and
Speaker 1: you should have the gotta be assignment sound on this game,
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Let's go to take a phone call.
Speaker 1: Gene and Philly still in the line, Kent Yep. Sounds
Speaker 1: like hey, Jeane, yes, hi, hi, hi, Hey, this quick question. Um,
Speaker 1: don't you think that where we're sitting right now is
Speaker 1: because of the salary cap. I mean, where's Terrell McClane,
Speaker 1: he's in Washington. Where's Barry Church He's on another team.
Speaker 1: Where's JJ Wilcox, Where's Brandon Carr? Where's Moo? I mean,
Speaker 1: decisions were made by management based on the salary cap.
Speaker 1: We couldn't keep those people, and all right, Zeke, we're
Speaker 1: gon We're gonna be based on Zeke. And now Zeke
Speaker 1: is gone, and now we're seeing all the flaws come
Speaker 1: out of the woodwork because the salary cap is what
Speaker 1: is handicapping us. And just like to get your thoughts
Speaker 1: on that. So thank you, Thanks Jean. That's a great calling.
Speaker 1: You've been the best call all week. I don't know
Speaker 1: if we have maybe all season. I don't know if
Speaker 1: we have three minutes to I mean answer that question.
Speaker 1: It's because it's a great share we do well. It's
Speaker 1: a philosophical question that really it affects. Yeah, it is,
Speaker 1: and it affects everybody in the league. Everybody's had to
Speaker 1: deal with the But the cap is there so that
Speaker 1: stuff like this happens and the league is unpredictable. That's
Speaker 1: exactly right, that's what they want. They want. Every team
Speaker 1: in the league except for maybe two or three knows
Speaker 1: going in. I don't know. I don't know what they was.
Speaker 1: I don't know what philosophical and all that, right me?
Speaker 1: But I bet you just philosophical to omit reality here
Speaker 1: what the data is called? No, it is, It is
Speaker 1: philosophy because you have to you have to make a decision.
Speaker 1: You have to side on guys you want to keep
Speaker 1: and guys you don't want to keep. And they made
Speaker 1: a decision to let a bunch of veteran dbs go
Speaker 1: and draft younger players to step in and fill their roles.
Speaker 1: And what's happening is you're seeing young guys and some
Speaker 1: of which missed a lot of time in preseason and
Speaker 1: during the season, are now put in position late in
Speaker 1: the year to make plays. Which that's part of the
Speaker 1: life in the NFL these days. This is this is
Speaker 1: the epitome of hindsight. But you could argue that you
Speaker 1: could have seen you you could have seen this coming,
Speaker 1: that the decisions they made in twenty seventeen would set
Speaker 1: them up to take a step back. They would have
Speaker 1: needed a lot of things to go their way to
Speaker 1: maintain the momentum of a thirteen and three seasons. Okay,
Speaker 1: the big question, sorry, the big question is going to
Speaker 1: be is do those decisions set you up to maintain
Speaker 1: that success moving forward? Do these young guys become good players?
Speaker 1: Do your you know, do those basic your decision to
Speaker 1: get younger and move on? Is that going to work
Speaker 1: out in the long run? And I don't think these
Speaker 1: struggles indicate that that can happen. But like I said,
Speaker 1: you could have seen the writing on the wall that
Speaker 1: trying to turn over your defense and part of your
Speaker 1: offensive line, et cetera was gonna make you take a
Speaker 1: help if you had zeke for a full sea of course. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: what was your prediction at the beginning to year? What
Speaker 1: was your roocort? I believe I said ten and six,
Speaker 1: Say ten and six nine seven ninety seven. See, because
Speaker 1: I factored in that with the loss of these guys,
Speaker 1: I've been factory in that they would be injured. But
Speaker 1: still I will go back to this right here. If
Speaker 1: you know where in the line up and and I
Speaker 1: don't care if you catch a twenty yard as tackled
Speaker 1: a guy if he's there tackling him. Now you get
Speaker 1: a chance to line up again and let him through
Speaker 1: another twenty yard pass and we'll tackle him again. But
Speaker 1: if you don't know who to get, this is what
Speaker 1: happened in the second half. You don't know who to get,
Speaker 1: you don't want to tackle nobody. This is what you
Speaker 1: get blowouts in the second half. You tackling the first, well,
Speaker 1: you can't tackle in the second. They're five and six
Speaker 1: right now. Yes, if Zeke and this is the epitome
Speaker 1: of hindsight, I get it. But if you have Zeke
Speaker 1: for a whole season, you're at least probably six and
Speaker 1: five right now, right and seven and four is not
Speaker 1: a totally ridiculous idea. Yeah, hypothetically you're approached tread the
Speaker 1: thought of having Zeke. I mean, he does a lot
Speaker 1: to help you patch over the problems with this team
Speaker 1: as we saw. I mean, that's a huge part of
Speaker 1: the reason. I think that's fair to say that they
Speaker 1: were winning games earlier in the year. That's why that
Speaker 1: Lady huf Huff philosophical is out of it, because I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: because because you made a decision and a decision and yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying you have to you have to have
Speaker 1: you have I got to have a philosophy with your team.
Speaker 1: Got you gotta decide you want to spend bigger, got
Speaker 1: to go through the draft. And they're trying to do
Speaker 1: the right thing, I think. But what they've got, they're
Speaker 1: playing a lot of young players on defense, and they're
Speaker 1: paying for it. And I'm glad that I have no
Speaker 1: problem with. My only problem is and and I've did
Speaker 1: shows what you guys before, and I and I line
Speaker 1: up if you want to impress the coaches, line up,
Speaker 1: know who to get and tackle that person on defense
Speaker 1: because they have been shown a willingness. We will take
Speaker 1: a big play here and there, will will take a
Speaker 1: chunk play here and there. But if you tackle these guys,
Speaker 1: it gives us a chance to line But you can't
Speaker 1: just back to back, you know, walk off the field.
Speaker 1: I got you and do that, But think about think
Speaker 1: about the safety last one, mick okay, think about the
Speaker 1: safety position Byron Jones, first round pick, Jeff Heath, free
Speaker 1: agent guy right Okay, Cavan Fraser, sixth round pick, Xavier Woods.
Speaker 1: I understand what you understand what you're doing. So so
Speaker 1: you're relying on some guys that were not drafted high
Speaker 1: and and and you're you're asking them to perform like starter, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm asking them to know who I understand what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, I'm sometimes it comes down the talent
Speaker 1: I do. But you can't tell me that you can't
Speaker 1: break down after after two guys to miss the guy
Speaker 1: you don't got a chance of run and get him
Speaker 1: in position. And now all of a sudden he faked
Speaker 1: you out too. So they're like, that's that's yeah, the
Speaker 1: end of the Kansas City Gate be a Simon sharp
Speaker 1: for four quarters and that's that's all. That's what we're
Speaker 1: gonna find out if the Cowboys are gonna do on
Speaker 1: third day night, k can they put a complete game together?
Speaker 1: Such a good host in this losing streak. Thanks Dave,
Speaker 1: Philosophy has met Reality, Thanks Mick for joining us. Thanks
Speaker 1: to Kid for producing off hand sight. It was it
Speaker 1: was Gene right, We gotta right, we gotta remember. It's
Speaker 1: a great called Philosophy has met Reality. Thanks everybody for
Speaker 1: joining us. Enjoining Thursday night, Well philosophy is We'll check
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