1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 2: It is the Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis and 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: Buck Sexton Show. Got a lot to cover and as 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 2: you know, it's Debate night tonight. Get your popcorn ready, 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: get whatever your snack of choice may be at hand 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: for watching the debate and also for those of you 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: who choose to do so watching the Donald Trump appearance 9 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: speaking to the United Auto Workers in Michigan. So, as 10 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: we see, there is a primary campaign playing out, or 11 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: primary contest playing out, in which you have people, on 12 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: the one hand, it seems vying for either cabinet posts 13 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: or a breakout that would at least make it seem 14 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: like Trump has some real competition in the primary. 15 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: We'll discuss this in a little bit. 16 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: In the other hand, you have Donald Trump who is 17 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: effectively running as though he is already in a general election. 18 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 2: Joe Biden was just at the UAW yesterday, joined the 19 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: picket line. They were saying, I mean not really. He 20 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: showed up and gave a quick speech. 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: Clay, that's going on. 22 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: There's also looting in Philadelphia that has happened after a 23 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: judge a judge has found a police officer not guilty 24 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: in a shooting. I guess he went for a bench 25 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: I believe he went for a bench trial. Need to 26 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: check on that. I'm matter of fact, not guilty in 27 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 2: a shooting there. And so there was looting in downtown 28 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: Philadelphia and in places like Rittenhouse Square. I mean a 29 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: Lululemon store was ransacked. People are feeling like it's out 30 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: of control. Over one hundred people involved in that. You've 31 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: also got more coming out of New York City with 32 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: the migrant crisis that continues. 33 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: To be a major major issue. 34 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: And then Clay Representative James Comer put this out yesterday. 35 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: I'm sure you saw this. Maybe we can dive into 36 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: this right now. He put out on do we call 37 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: it X now? I can't get used to this. I 38 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 2: still call it Twitter. 39 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: I think we should stick on the show. 40 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 3: We should just make an official ruling that we're going 41 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 3: to continue to call it Twitter, because I think calling 42 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: it X it's gonna be way too confusing. We're going 43 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 3: to continue to say tweets and it's Twitter, and I understand, 44 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 3: you know, it's it's like when a you know, like 45 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: sometimes the stadiums that are iconic, change their name and 46 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: I'm just going like mile High Field in Denver, mile 47 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: High Stadium is always going to be mile High. I 48 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 3: don't even know what the current thing they call it is. 49 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 3: It's defined, it's established, We'll keep calling it Twitter. 50 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: So Comer wrote this, I just subpoened and obtained two 51 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: bankwires revealing Hunter Biden received payments originating from Beijing in 52 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen when Joe Biden was running for president. Joe 53 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 2: Biden's Delaware home is listed as the beneficiary address for 54 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: both money wires from China. Now, Clay, what is the 55 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: what is the red line on this? At what point 56 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 2: does it actually become too complicated for or are too 57 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: difficult too impossible for Democrats to defend what has gone 58 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: on here. We've talked about a smoking gun. Now we've 59 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: got wires listing the Biden home as the beneficiary. Taking 60 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 2: a step back. The recklessness of Hunter Biden accepting millions 61 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: of dollars from China while all this is going, while 62 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: his dad is his dad and because of who his 63 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: dad is. 64 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: Is something that's remarkable to behold. 65 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: And yet I think a lot of the Democrat media 66 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: the plan is just silence on this, not going to 67 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: talk about it very much. 68 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: No big deal. 69 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: What do you think, Why do they worry them to 70 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: the point where they can't actually just keep the stone 71 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: you know, the stone wall. 72 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: Up so well? I think you have to compare it 73 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: to Menendez. 74 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: And as we're speaking today, I don't know, it's thirty 75 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: some odd Democrat senators and office holders have come out 76 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: and said that he needs to resign. 77 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: He's pled, not guilty. 78 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 3: I think the one hundred thousand dollars bail has had 79 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 3: to be posted for Menendez and his wife. But I 80 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 3: talked about this on the show, and I think it's 81 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:25,119 Speaker 3: important to go back into it. What Robert Menindez did 82 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 3: is basically his wife was a alleged conduit to allow 83 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 3: money to be paid that Robert Menendez then was using 84 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 3: his influence to impact Robert Menendez and his wife are 85 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 3: a pen prick as significantly guilty of transgressions in my opinion, 86 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: as Hunter Biden and Joe Biden. And what you've heard 87 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 3: Democrats try to say buck for years now is oh, 88 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 3: well this would matter if Hunter Biden were in office. No, 89 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 3: I mean this, this is how this works. Oftentimes it's 90 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 3: not the officeholder himself that decides to engage in the behavior. 91 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 3: They have a family member, they have someone that they 92 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 3: have a closer relationship with that does this, and just 93 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: think buck again. The Menindez family got a luxury vehicle 94 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 3: from foreign influence. Hunter Biden got a luxury vehicle from 95 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 3: foreign influence. The men Indesz family got and we've kind 96 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 3: of had some fun with this. But jewels, like it's 97 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: like in Indiana Jones, right, like big jewels that were given. 98 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,239 Speaker 3: It was gold ingots, gold bars, whatever you want to say, 99 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 3: Hunter Biden, what did he get? 100 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: Somebody look up like it was a. 101 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: Big like sapphire or ruby or something crazy that he got. 102 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 3: I'll look it up during the break or the staff 103 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: can look it up. And Texas, when you get those 104 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 3: kind of gifts, they're designed to avoid taxes, right when 105 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 3: you get I bet a tiny percentage of people out 106 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 3: there listening to a success when you potentially propose to 107 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: your wife and you give her a diamond ring, I 108 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 3: bet hardly anybody out there has gotten a big jewel 109 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 3: as a gift in some way. Hunter Biden got over 110 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 3: twenty million inities connected to Hunter Biden did compared to 111 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 3: Robert Menendez and people say, well, there's envelopes of cash. 112 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 3: What's more suspicious to you, Buck, envelopes of cash or 113 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 3: wires from foreign companies that have been set up through 114 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 3: basically dummy corporations to try to disguise the fact that 115 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 3: you were getting wires from China and Ukraine and other 116 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 3: foreign interest. Cash can be somewhat, can be somewhat seems 117 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: a little bit shady, But lots of people listening to 118 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 3: us right now have substantial amounts of cash in their. 119 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: Homes, yes, and hopefully they have some precious metals stored away. 120 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: Very smart something that I do, Clay, did you mention 121 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: the money sewn into the clothing though on the Menendes thing, 122 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 2: because that's why I get it like it it sounds, 123 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 2: it sounds, But if you were, I'm just saying that's 124 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: if you're trying to make your cash seem as shady 125 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: as possible, right, I think sewing it into the lining 126 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: of your clothing. Now, people might say, well, that's in 127 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: case you have to leave the country in a hurry. 128 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: Maybe that way you could smuggle cash out, because you know, 129 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars would have more than ten thousand dollars 130 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 2: I think. 131 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: It has to be declared. But it doesn't look good 132 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: for Menendez. 133 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: I gotta say, you know, this guy managed to basically 134 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: beat them the first time around. I wouldn't put a 135 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: large bed on Menendez going going away for this one either. 136 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: But when you're comparing the Hunter Biden Joe Biden, I 137 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: think Joe Biden is way worse. Well, this is what 138 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,679 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say is you have people like Nancy Pelosi 139 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: saying Menendez should resign. Yeah, and then you sit there 140 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: and you say, well, hold on a second, why is 141 00:07:55,800 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: what Menendez did so bad? But what with including his wife? 142 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: And I think that's a really important component of this too. Right, 143 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: it's not just him, it's also his wife that's gotten 144 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: brought into this federal indictment. And yet Joe Biden's son, 145 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: they create the whole thing. It all rises and falls, 146 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: or it all comes apart. 147 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: If this wall, so to speak, if this wall. 148 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: Between Joe and Hunter comes down, then yes, then the 149 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: whole thing just becomes a disaster for them. And that's 150 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: when Joe Biden says, for reasons of health and age, 151 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 2: I'm going to have to let you know, let Kamala 152 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: Harris take over and that's the only thing that's going 153 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: to happen. 154 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 3: Well, look, Buck, So, by the way, the allegation is 155 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 3: that Hunter Biden was given a three point one six 156 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 3: carrot diamond, not a diamond ring, just like a diamond 157 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 3: worth an estimated eighty thousand dollars. That if you get 158 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 3: a jewel, If any of you out there listening have 159 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: ever gotten a jewel, you probably did something shady. I mean, 160 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 3: I was making the joke about Indiana Jones because at 161 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 3: the beginning of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. Remember, 162 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 3: there's like the diamonds that they're like that they're trying 163 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 3: to get out. If I remember correctly, nobody carries around jewels. 164 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 3: Like if you just gave somebody a diamond, you're trying 165 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 3: to do something illicit. Here's another question for you, Buck, 166 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 3: So four hundred and eighty thousand dollars, I think ish 167 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 3: is the dollar figure that is at stake with Robert Menendez. 168 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 3: And granted a lot of that is in cash, but 169 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 3: we're talking about over twenty million with Hunter Biden. Again, 170 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 3: same luxury vehicle situation, foreign entity buys it for them, 171 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 3: same jewel like situation. Whether it's an eighty thousand dollars 172 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: diamond or gold bars. Here's a question for you, Buck, 173 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 3: And this is the kind of thing that a jury 174 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: sits around and contemplates. First of all, men Indez's defense, 175 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,719 Speaker 3: I think is going to be that his wife had 176 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 3: a job and that she was being compensated for that job, 177 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 3: and that he didn't engage in any quid pro quo. 178 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's a pretty easy defense. How 179 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 3: much cash do you actually have on you? Because I 180 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 3: do think a in general can find lots of cash 181 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 3: to be very suspect. 182 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: Like I'll give you an example. 183 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 3: In my house right now, I probably have four hundred 184 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 3: dollars total in cash. 185 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: Between my wife and me. 186 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: We do not stay like have substantial amounts of cash, 187 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 3: right I pay for almost everything with a credit card 188 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 3: or ATM card or whatever else. I'm not a cash guy. 189 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: The older you are, though, the more likely it is 190 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 3: that you have a lot of cash. And I'll give 191 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 3: you an example, Buck, every time I go to my 192 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 3: dad's house, he gives me like forty dollars, and I think, 193 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: you know, it is amazing. He's always got cash. It's 194 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 3: not like my dad has a lot of money, but 195 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 3: every time he sees me, he tries to give me 196 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 3: like forty or fifty bucks to leave. And I bet 197 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 3: there's a lot of dads and moms and grandma's and 198 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: grandpa's out there who do carry around a lot of cash, 199 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 3: who do have a lot of cash in their homes 200 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: because they may not feel as comfortable with the bank process, 201 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 3: and because the older you are, the more cash related 202 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 3: your transactional day to day life is like are you 203 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: you don't? I bet you and carry don't have a 204 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 3: lot of cash on you on a day to day 205 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 3: basis right. 206 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: I can tell you that one of my younger brother 207 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 2: made fun of me once because he said I had 208 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: a quote old man wallet which was sticking like I 209 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 2: would wear a suit or pants whatever, and you could 210 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 2: see and granted. 211 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 1: It was I. I was one of these wait in 212 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: the wallet. 213 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I had library cards from like nineteen 214 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 2: ninety two in this wallet. 215 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: You know, I I stand to wallet. 216 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 3: Remember he stands up back in the day on Seinfeld 217 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 3: like had the unbelievable wallet that was giving him back problems. 218 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna yes, I'm not going to say that 219 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: it had velcrow, but it wasn't that far away, and 220 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: my brother made fun of me, and he said, all 221 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: you need is a cash card, a credit card and 222 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: an ID and something to hold it together. And that 223 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: is all you need to walk around with. There's note 224 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 2: and now I do that. So this this does change 225 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 2: with people over time. 226 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: When I go out to dinner, I go credit card, 227 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 3: driver's license just in case I get id'd for like 228 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: for alcohol or something, which doesn't happen, by the way, 229 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 3: My wife gets id all the time if you drive. 230 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 3: If you drive, you want your driver's license to But 231 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 3: that's pretty much it. But so I wonder, you know, 232 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 3: the age of the jury could factor in there. But 233 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 3: she does have the defense of I'm allowed to have 234 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 3: a job, and then he's allowed to say she's allowed 235 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 3: to have a job and I didn't do anything wrong. 236 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 3: I just think that the precedent that is being set 237 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 3: by Democrats now is these allegations are so significant against 238 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 3: Robert Menendez that he should resign immediately. And simultaneously they 239 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 3: are pretending that no allegations against Joe Biden are going 240 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 3: on at all, even though they are more severe, more significant, 241 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 3: and more more I would say serious, uh than the 242 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 3: allegations against Menendez. I think Democrats are painting themselves into 243 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 3: a tough corner here. 244 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 2: They're just going to fall back on two things. The 245 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 2: lack of knowledge about I'm sorry, I can't say Biden, 246 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: lack of Joe Biden knowledge about what Hunter Biden was doing. 247 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: And also there have been no charges filed against Joe Biden. 248 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: Now he's the presidence, you can't really file charges against him. 249 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, this is what the h this 250 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 2: is what the response will be. But I also I've 251 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: got something here on you know, they're trying to say 252 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: that the classified documented. 253 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: I saw that story. 254 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, so should we should address that too, because I 255 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: wouldn't quite say that it's disinformation. 256 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: What they're putting out there. 257 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: But I think I have a very different take on 258 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 2: it than a lot of other folks as to why 259 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: all of a sudden we're getting the supporting So why 260 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 2: don't we come back into that also take some of 261 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 2: your calls if you have some thoughts about that. I'm 262 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 2: curious if you have thoughts about the debate tonight. I 263 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: wonder what percentage of this audience is going to watch 264 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 2: the debate versus what percentage is going at the same time, 265 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: right debate and Trump. 266 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: Am I right on that? 267 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 3: I think that's correct. I think the debate's nine to 268 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 3: eleven the Eastern. If I'm not mistaken, staff can correct 269 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 3: me on that. But I think it's nine to eleven Eastern. 270 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: And well, I think Trump is see at anyway, let's 271 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 2: figure that out. 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Download the Phoenix Groups 289 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: Free Investment Guide today at PHX on air dot com. 290 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: He's Buck Sexton, Clay Travis together they're breathing sanity into 291 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: an insane We. 292 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 293 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 3: of you hanging out with us. We roll through the 294 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 3: Wednesday edition of the program. By the Way, Debate tonight 295 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: from nine to eleven. It's going to be moderated by 296 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: Stuart Varney and Dana Perino. It's gonna be on Fox Business. 297 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 3: Trump is speaking in Clinton Township, Michigan, which is a 298 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 3: counterprogramming move by Trump. He's going to be with members 299 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 3: of the UAW, going after them and their support in 300 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty four election, because basically Trump has already 301 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 3: undertaken a general election strategy. And I don't think it's 302 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 3: a coincidence that Biden decided to go to be with 303 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 3: the UAW in Michigan yesterday because Trump had already announced 304 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 3: that he was going to be there. And we're kind 305 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 3: of seeing a mirror act between the two of them 306 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 3: as the general election campaign has already started. Now, we'll 307 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 3: obviously be breaking down a lot of what happens in 308 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 3: the Republic in primary tomorrow with all of you, and 309 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 3: will be kind of forecasting and predicting what we would 310 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 3: anticipate seeing tonight. But the biggest takeaway in general is 311 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 3: there doesn't seem to be that much enthusiasm at least 312 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 3: not that I am picking up for people to watch 313 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 3: this debate. A month ago, the first debate that was 314 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 3: taking place, it felt like there was the one that 315 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 3: took place in Milwaukee, a great deal of interest in 316 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 3: that one, but nobody really firmly kind of stepped forward 317 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 3: and established themselves as a clear alternative to Trump. And 318 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 3: really the biggest storyline as you continue to break down 319 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 3: everything and think forward about what's going to happen with 320 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 3: this process is is anybody going to be able to 321 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 3: make a legitimate run against against Trump in any way? 322 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 3: And so far, I think the answer is no, and 323 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 3: I bet you think so as well. And so as 324 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 3: you break all of that down and contemplate it, we'll 325 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 3: take some of your calls eight hundred two eight two 326 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 3: two eight eight two and we certainly appreciate all of 327 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 3: you out there listening. By the way, I don't think 328 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 3: we've mentioned this yet. We're also going to be joined 329 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,719 Speaker 3: by Bill O'Reilly here in a little bit, and I 330 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 3: think he may give Buck a little bit of a 331 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 3: little bit of a talking to, because Bill O'Reilly, if 332 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 3: you remember, is in the camp alongside of me arguing that, yes, 333 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 3: there is going to be. 334 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: A situation here where Joe. 335 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 3: Biden ends up having to drop out before all is 336 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 3: said and done. But we'll take some of your calls. 337 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 3: Eight hundred two A two two eight A two. 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That's legacybox 364 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 3: dot com slash clay forty percent off. 365 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: So there is a debate tonight, as you know, Republican 366 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 2: debate over on a fig business kicks off at nine 367 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 2: Eastern And I mean, I could go into some detail 368 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 2: here on what the polling is, but I think we 369 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 2: all know where the polling stands more or less right 370 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: now latest here twenty twenty four. 371 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: This is as of today. 372 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 2: Republican presidential nomination Economist YouGov poll, Trump is at fifty three. 373 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 2: Then it's DeSantis at fourteen, Haley at seven, Ramaswami at five, 374 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 2: Pence at four, Scott three, Christy two, Berghram zero, wow, 375 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 2: and Hutchinson zero. I didn't know that, actually, I guess 376 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 2: they have to list it at zero. I thought you 377 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 2: kind of got you're in the SAT you get a 378 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 2: certain number of points just for listing your name. Yes, 379 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: I thought I thought everyone was kind of going to 380 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 2: get at least one, you know, like you got to 381 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 2: show up as one. But apparently not. Bergram and Hutchinson 382 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 2: aces out of it, So that doesn't really matter anymore. 383 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 2: Trump up thirty nine in this and also in a 384 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 2: general election poll. Now this goes what we're talking about 385 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 2: yesterday saying economists you gov poll, Biden is up five 386 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 2: on Trump in that one. So because people got very 387 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 2: kind of excited about oh, Trump is up ten in 388 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 2: this one poll. We're a year plus from the election. 389 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 2: And that was one poll, and there are a lot 390 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 2: of other polls that I think people are going to 391 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 2: be having to pay serious attention to. 392 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: Here. 393 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 2: Now, if there's one person who might be able to 394 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: have there's rightly. There there's breakout in terms of brand, 395 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 2: and there's breakout in terms of the numbers. Yeah, we're 396 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 2: talking brand breakout. That's already happened for one of the candidates, 397 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: and that's Vivek Ramaswami, who's now a name that everybody 398 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 2: following politics knows. And and also everyone has found out 399 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: that the guy has got a lot of money, which 400 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 2: I don't know if everyone knew that before everyone used 401 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 2: to go on Fox. It's basically a billionaire. So Vivek 402 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: has done very very well for himself. His numbers, though, 403 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 2: have pretty much stalled out that I don't see that 404 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 2: really change because he's running a Trump adjacent campaign. I 405 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 2: think that's fair when you say that you want another 406 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 2: person who's the greatest candidate in your life to be 407 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: your advisor when you're president, I think Trump adjacent is 408 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 2: a fair thing, to a fair way to put it. 409 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 2: The one person, Clay, who could try to make a 410 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 2: real breakout moment here is the person who all along 411 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: has been thought of as the primary rival to Donald 412 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: Trump in this the only one who ever got close 413 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 2: in any polls this year, Earlier this year, like January, 414 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: Ron DeSantis. And here's what he's here's what he's saying. 415 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: Playclip eate. 416 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 4: He's running in twenty twenty four on a lot of 417 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 4: the same promises he ran on in twenty sixteen and 418 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 4: didn't deliver on. He said he was going to drain 419 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 4: the swamp. They didn't drain the swamp at all. He 420 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 4: still defends hiring Christopher Ray. He didn't fire Ray, he 421 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 4: didn't fire Fauci. He said Mexico was going to pay 422 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 4: for the border wall that didn't happen. And then remember 423 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 4: he promised to point a special council for Hillary Clinton. 424 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 4: Then after the election, two weeks later, he's like, oh, no, 425 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 4: forget about it. That's what you say before the elections, 426 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 4: that what you say after. So now he's saying he's 427 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 4: going to do one for Biden, but he had promised 428 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 4: to do that in twenty sixteen. So I think it's 429 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,959 Speaker 4: about you got to deliver on these things. If we 430 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 4: do the same thing and we don't deliver on one 431 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 4: hundred percent, we're not going to turn the country around. 432 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 4: Now's the time to deliver result. 433 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,479 Speaker 2: So here's just my analysis of this, Clay, I want 434 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 2: to hear what you think. DeSantis so far has run 435 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: a campaign that has been I did a great job 436 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: in Florida, and I would do a great job as president. 437 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 2: He has criticized Trump here and there, he has not 438 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: really gone after him. 439 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: Clearly he's behind. 440 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 2: I don't know whatever I said before. 441 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,479 Speaker 3: Twenty points at a minimum thirty points. I mean it's 442 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 3: a substantial deficit. 443 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's at least you're looking at about a 444 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: twenty to thirty point gap between the two of them 445 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 2: right now in that environment. 446 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: Is it Is it possible? Is it? 447 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: Is it plausible in your mind that DeSantis may go 448 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 2: on on stage and even though Trump is not there, 449 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 2: make this about trying to convince people effectively to come 450 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 2: over to his side so he can get the numbers, 451 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 2: to make it seem like this is a horse race, 452 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:12,959 Speaker 2: because right now it's not a horse race. Right now 453 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 2: it's Donald Trump is, you know, on the beach, hanging out, 454 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: waiting for everybody else to decide they're. 455 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: Going to do something else. Oh so, a couple of 456 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 1: things here. 457 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 3: I think the RNC needs to increase the standards to 458 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 3: get on the stage because there are several people on 459 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 3: the stage who have a zero percent chance of being 460 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 3: the Republican presidential nominee, and Dork Bergham is one of them, 461 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 3: maybe a fantastic guy. Zero percent chance. Mike Pence zero 462 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 3: percent chance of being the Republican Party nominee. I think, frankly, 463 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 3: Chris Christy zero percent chance of being the Republican Party nominee. 464 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 3: I think if you look there, what seven candidates who 465 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 3: are on the stage. I just told you three that 466 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 3: have a zero percent chance in my opinion, of being 467 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 3: the nominee. The big I think is getting close to 468 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 3: having a zero percent. I think he has peaked, and 469 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 3: I think he's begun his decline. I think he's a 470 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 3: smart guy. He's going to be a candidate probably in 471 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 3: twenty twenty eighth. He has distinguished himself very much in 472 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 3: this race. But to your point, when you are arguing 473 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 3: basically that you are Trump's body man, a younger version 474 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 3: of Trump, why would any Trump person say, Okay, I'm 475 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:20,959 Speaker 3: gonna go with Vivek all right, and by the way, 476 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 3: we'll open our phone lines say one hundred eight hunder 477 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 3: two a two two eight eight two. So to me, really, 478 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 3: what we have as an audition for who can be 479 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 3: the top opponent to Trump? NICKI Haley can audition Uh, 480 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 3: we can have a Ron DeSantis audition. I really think 481 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 3: that's it. Tim Scott maybe could have a moment. He 482 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 3: basically was non a non entity in the first debate. 483 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 3: So I really think we have it down to Nicky 484 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 3: Haley or Ron DeSantis as the true Trump alternative in 485 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 3: my opinion looking at everything, because Vivik's not that you 486 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 3: agree with me, not a Trump alternative. He basically is 487 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 3: a younger Trump, which is not a bad thing. But 488 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 3: it's hard to be the alternative when you just want 489 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 3: to be Trump, That's right, And that's why the numbers 490 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 3: haven't really haven't really moved. I mean, there was a 491 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 3: moment there where some of the polling, I think there 492 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 3: was some excitement just based off of how well the 493 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 3: veke was doing in the media as well. I think 494 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 3: that was a big component of it, and the perception 495 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 3: that here was this young, fresh voice and that was 496 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 3: shaking things up. But right now, in all the polling, 497 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 3: he's basically alongside Tim Scott and Mike Pence, and no 498 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 3: one thinks either of those people are is going to 499 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 3: win the presidency or even be gaining much in the 500 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 3: way of support. Those numbers have all been pretty static. 501 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 3: I mean there has been ever since Trump came out 502 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 3: to his huge lead, and I would like to go 503 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 3: back in time and see how closely aligned that was 504 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 3: with the first indictment. Ever since that happened, the numbers 505 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 3: haven't shifted that much. For veag had a moment. 506 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 2: I think he got up into the teens and then 507 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 2: he's dropped down a little bit. But I think when 508 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: you're looking at. 509 00:25:58,880 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: At who could. 510 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 2: Try to have this be a breakout moment, I mean, 511 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 2: Ron DeSantis doesn't gain very much from beating up on 512 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: or arguing with people who are at five percent, one percent, zero. 513 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: You know, I don't think there's any Oh bergham Is 514 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,959 Speaker 2: on the stage, but this this pole hasn't at zero, 515 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 2: He doesn't there's that that doesn't move the needle at all. 516 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 2: The only way he might be able to move the 517 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: needle is if he has a moment where he can 518 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 2: appeal to Trump voters who are perhaps persuadable that it's 519 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: time for some other alternative, or at least they're willing 520 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 2: to entertain it. And it's not going to be some 521 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 2: thirty point switch. You know, if he comes out of 522 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 2: this and all of a sudden you see like I said, 523 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 2: you know, five to ten points moving in Ron's favor, 524 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 2: it'll feel like maybe maybe he has here's a question 525 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 2: for you, Buck, I think it's fair to say fifty percent. 526 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 2: You look at all the polls, about fifty percent of 527 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 2: people support Trump in primary, right, I mean he's got 528 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 2: a big lead. Fifty and fifty don't, which is an 529 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 2: interesting part of this two Yeah. 530 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 3: So there's fifty percent who don't. Let's pretend that there's 531 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 3: only two candidates. Let's pretend that it's only Ron DeSantis 532 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 3: against Trump, or it's only Nicky Haley against Trump, because 533 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 3: those are the two I think personally that have made 534 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 3: the most compelling argument as a not Trump candidate. Right, 535 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 3: of the fifty percent that is not Trump, now, what 536 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 3: percent of that fifty would go to Nicky Haley or 537 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 3: would go to Trump. Let's pretend that we actually got 538 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 3: it down to a head to head. I think Trump 539 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 3: would still get some of that fifty, right, So I 540 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 3: don't so the anti Trump. 541 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: I guess the question I'm asking is of. 542 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 3: The people that are being that are supporting another candidate 543 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 3: other than Trump, how many of them would go to 544 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,959 Speaker 3: Trump if their preferred candidate wasn't there for instance of Vivas, Like, 545 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 3: if Aveak warn't in the race, I think almost everybody 546 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 3: would go Trump, right, Like, that's the way his support. 547 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 2: How many people on the fifty percent the way you 548 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 2: can break this down? Yeah, how many of the non 549 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 2: Trump voting fifty percent right now have Trump as their 550 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 2: second choice? 551 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: Correct? 552 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 2: So so if that I don't think that number is high. 553 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 3: It's a good question, Like it's the ultimate question because 554 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 3: if Trump has got because the argument against Trump at 555 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 3: this point, right, if we as we get ready for 556 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 3: this primary, the argument against Trump is when everybody else 557 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 3: starts to drop out, the anti Trump vote will coalesce 558 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 3: and it'll be behind. And I'm just using example, the 559 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 3: two people that I think have the strongest anti Trump 560 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 3: case that Nicky Haley and DeSantis. There are other anti 561 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 3: Trump candidates, Pens, you know, Chris Christy. But my thing is, 562 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 3: if all those other guys dropped out and you ended 563 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 3: up Trump v. DeSantis or Trump v Nicky Haley. Of 564 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 3: the fifty percent that is not committed to Trump, now, 565 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 3: how many of that fifty percent actually goes to Trump? Like, 566 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 3: does it end up sixty forty Trump? In which case, 567 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 3: this thing's totally over right, because even if you got 568 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 3: it down to one v one, does Trump have this 569 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 3: thing locked up? Or are there wobbly Trump supporters that 570 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 3: are in that fifty now that might be willing to 571 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 3: shift and or is the fifty and anti Trump coalition? 572 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 3: Or is it like, Hey, I like Mike Pence, but 573 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 3: if Pence were out, I'd go Trump. Or I like Haley, 574 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 3: but if Haley were out, I'd go Trump. That to 575 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 3: me is the calculus here the math. 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Roll through 603 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 3: debate day, sort of a pregame show here. 604 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: Buck. 605 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 3: Do you agree with me that basically there are two 606 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 3: candidates who have established themselves as anti Trump candidates. And 607 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 3: I don't mean that means that like they despise Trump 608 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 3: in every fiber of the being, just that if you 609 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 3: look on stage other than DeSantis and Nicky Haley. Well, 610 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 3: Chris Christy clearly has I'm talking about that could win, 611 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 3: and Mike Pence has taken shots at Trump along the way. 612 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 3: Who let me put it this way, who do you 613 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,959 Speaker 3: think on this stage could be a viable alternative to Trump? 614 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 3: Or in your mind, is this already decided and we're 615 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 3: basically just looking at VP auditions. 616 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 2: I think it depends on the individual. I don't think 617 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 2: everyone's auditioning for VP. I don't think Ron Desandis would 618 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 2: take the job of VP if offered. I think you 619 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 2: would continue to be the governor Florida. 620 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: For example. 621 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Nicky Haley would take VP. I think 622 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: think Tim Scott would take VP and Vivek would take VP, 623 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 2: so they, you know, their motivations are different. I think 624 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: Mike Pence I believe in his head he thinks this 625 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 2: is like a moral crusade and that he's trying to 626 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 2: save the Republic from, you know, Donald Trump. I think 627 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 2: that that's what. 628 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: He should just say that if he actually believes it. 629 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: He kind of it. 630 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 2: He's kind of said that. I mean he said Donald 631 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 2: Trump is unfit. I mean, you know that's yeah, but. 632 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 3: He would directly say, uh, you know, I am running 633 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 3: to try to keep Trump from being the president. 634 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: We know what. 635 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 2: He won't directly say yeah, we've been We've been through 636 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 2: that one here before. 637 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 3: And now he won't come on the show. I think 638 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 3: because he's rattled after the last appearance. 639 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 2: But the only the only one that that I think 640 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 2: I agree with your assessment that Nicky Haley and and 641 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 2: Ron DeSantis both believe that if something crazy happened, it's 642 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 2: almost like they're the understudy for the big play. You know, 643 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 2: you're not gonna get centers, You're not going to be 644 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 2: the lead in the play unless the under you know, 645 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 2: something happens and then the understudy all of a sudden 646 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 2: is the person. 647 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: Right. 648 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 2: And with four federal indictments against Trump and or I'm sorry, 649 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 2: three federal indictments for criminal indictments, well no to federal, 650 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: two state, Yeah, thank you to federal two states. Sorry, 651 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,719 Speaker 2: I can't even I can't even keep it straight with 652 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 2: all these indictments, I think the possibility is that he 653 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 2: will that they think they just need to stay in it, 654 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 2: like stay in it to win. It is the basic 655 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 2: strategy here. And I think beyond that, you know, you 656 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 2: have to see if I mean, is Nikki Haley gonna 657 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 2: have some moment on stage that's going to really change 658 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 2: a lot of minds. 659 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: I don't. 660 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 2: I don't think so, because she's not that kind of 661 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 2: a dynamic. She was very adept in the first debate. 662 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 2: I'm not thought she did a good job. No, she's good, 663 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 2: but she's not. Uh, she's she's very competent. 664 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 5: She's not you know, gonna Bak is the best debater 665 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 5: on the stage in my opinion, in terms of a 666 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 5: who's going to potentially create sizzle. 667 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 3: Now, it can go both ways, right because some people 668 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 3: watch Viveke and say, man, I really find that guy unlikable. 669 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 3: Other people he's polarizing. Other people watch it and they say, man, 670 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 3: he really kind of commanded the stage. I thought he did. 671 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 3: Coming out of the first debate, you were in Scotland 672 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 3: trying to pretend that the lockness monster doesn't exist. But 673 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 3: during the during the first debate, I came out and 674 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 3: I said the three best performers, and I think the 675 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 3: polling all reflected this as well, were Ron DeSantis, vek 676 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 3: Ramaswami and Nicki Haley. And I tend to think those 677 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 3: probably will be the three best performers again tonight. Although 678 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 3: I do think Chris Christy has some sizzle, I just 679 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 3: think he has no chance to actually be the nominee. 680 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 2: Jordan in North Carolina, you want to weigh in here, 681 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 2: what's up Jordan? 682 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: What's up? 683 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 6: Fellas? The thing that I think y'all are missing? Buck 684 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 6: throughout the question earlier saying that how many people are 685 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 6: actually watching it? There are so many of them us 686 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 6: that love nights like tonight because Trump isn't there, Like 687 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 6: it is so refreshing just getting to enjoy politics without 688 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 6: him there. 689 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 3: So you would let me ask you this, though, would 690 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 3: you you would be less likely to watch the Republican 691 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 3: debate tonight if Trump were on the stage one. 692 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 6: Thousand percent because he's just gonna throw his weight around everybody. 693 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 6: All the Trump people just been to him, just that 694 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 6: and the third like, it's just it's so nice just 695 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 6: getting to see other competent politicians that don't have a 696 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 6: million circus acts going on around him and just getting 697 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 6: to enjoy that. Like Chris Christy, he's entertaining as hell. 698 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: You know, I'm. 699 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 6: Obviously not gonna vote for him, but he's entertaining at hell, 700 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 6: and the competency of DeSantis and getting to see a 701 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 6: once in a generation leader is just great, Like it's 702 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 6: just it's just so amazing getting to see something other 703 00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 6: than Trump. 704 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 2: The perspective, Yeah, I think that's that's an interesting, interesting 705 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 2: thing to throw into the mix here. 706 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 3: The numbers were actually good for the first debate, Now 707 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 3: they weren't Trump in twenty fifteen. Good, but over ten 708 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 3: million people watched on Fox News if I remember correctly, 709 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 3: the first debate a month ago. Now, this one's on 710 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 3: Fox Business, but I believe it'll be simulcast on Fox 711 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 3: News as well, unless I'm mistaken, so it'll be airing 712 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 3: on two different networks simultaneously. 713 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of people who are 714 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: gonna watch. 715 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 3: But again, to me, the big storyline is, okay, is 716 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 3: there a viable alternative or not? And the RNC, I 717 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,919 Speaker 3: think buck needs to start to create more and more 718 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:43,439 Speaker 3: stringent standards. Early November is the next debate, first week 719 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 3: in November, I think in Miami. 720 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 2: In Miami, yeah, there. 721 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 3: Should only be allowed to be like three or four 722 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 3: people on the stage by then that they have to 723 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 3: set new standards. 724 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 2: Uncle Bill Bill O'Reilly best selling author. 725 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 1: You all know him. He's with us next way in 726 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: on all this stick around