1 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: We are back at the Sunset Tower Hotel on a glorious, sunny, 2 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: yet very cool and crisp day in Los Angeles. We're 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: about to have lunch with one of the most beautiful 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: people in Hollywood. And I don't just mean physically, because 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: she's gorgeous, but also inside. Sharon Stone, Oscar nominated actress, 6 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: a Golden Globe winner, the star of Casino, basic instinct. 7 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: It's super fun, it's super show. We actually eat, so 8 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: I hope you're hungry. I am good. I'm so happy 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: to see you. Thank you me too. But what I 10 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 1: love about Sharon, what inspires me about Sharon, it's her 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: commitment to our community, my community, the LGBTQ plus community. 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: She has been an advocate for raising awareness with HIV AIDS. 13 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: She has been the face and the fundraiser for am FAR, 14 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: the American Federation for AIDS Research is a big deal, 15 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: and she's stood in the fourth of making sure women 16 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: and men get paid the same. She's just a rock 17 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: star and we're doing We're doing fries, nice and crispy, 18 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: leaning in. You're leaning in, So pull up and relax 19 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: and grab your rose and get ready. Because she also 20 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: is super cool and a fun, outspoken person. High Sharon Stone, 21 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: you were here on table for two and we're having 22 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: lunch together. This is a dream and have lunch with 23 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: you anytime, would you? Yes? Yes, I think we should 24 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: just talk. N Why are we not? This is like 25 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: the thing with La, like we should just have lunches 26 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: and chill out. Yes, you are so much to me, 27 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you a little story. So the 28 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: first time I saw you, you don't know, but it 29 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: was nineteen ninety two. It was brunch my fame. Who's 30 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: on Third? Remember Who's on Third? That restaurant? Joanne? Yep, Yeah, 31 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: And you were sitting there with a bunch of guys 32 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: and I remember looking at you and being like, she's 33 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: so beautiful, she's amazing, and what you did. So I'd 34 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 1: like to sort of begin our conversation today because this 35 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: is all about just a connection. And what I believe 36 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: is the beauty of a meal is the romance of 37 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: the meal. You know, I was young. People forget that. 38 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: They forget that, they forget that. It's like people don't 39 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: ask each other for dates anymore, and they want to 40 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: text and hook up. Yeah, it's like they don't romance. 41 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: They don't seduce. They don't. It's not interesting. Frankly, it isn't. 42 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: It's everything we had growing up. Yeah, it was so. 43 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: It was titillating. It was like you didn't know there 44 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: was poetry. It was poetry, right, A beautiful word to you. Yes, 45 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: I mean at that time you were hitting, you were becoming, 46 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: which we'll talk about who ran off with my name 47 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 1: and identity, But what you were also doing, which led 48 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: to was you are a truth teller. I am so. 49 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: I am not out here looking to get people, as 50 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: I'm a very big Sheryl Lead Ralph fan. Like I've 51 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: known Cheryl Sheryl. I've known Chryl since we were kids 52 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: in waiting rooms trying out for the same jobs in Manhattan. 53 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: And she's the most warm, loving, generous kind. You know. 54 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: The first time I met her, she had a bag 55 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: of liquorice wheels and I was sitting next to her 56 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: right sharing her liquorice wheels. And let's order some lunch. 57 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: You have to eat, you boy, you have a face 58 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: to paint. To look at that face and stuff. No, 59 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: you have no face to paint. Um, bam, bam, you 60 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: know anything. This is lunch, babe. Well, I'm going to 61 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: have the Tower Burger because it's so anza. Yeah, And 62 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: do you have any gluten free thing you can stick 63 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: it on like a breath, let us wrap. I'll do 64 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: the gluten free bread toasted, well toasted. I like the 65 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: burgger medium. I like those onions you saute them, right, 66 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: I like that? And do you want cheddar or cheese 67 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: greer we're doing We're doing fries nice and nice and crispy. 68 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: Leaning in, you're leaning in and you know I do 69 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: my my classic, my chop salad with chicken. Yeah, I'm 70 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:11,239 Speaker 1: digging it, Okay. I like I'll have sparkling sparkling water 71 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: and maybe I'll have an iced coffee. You're going on 72 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: right now? Say again, just just I'll have milk on 73 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: the sign. I know, I am. I've had two already. 74 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: Like I'm like Jack Jo, I'm sitting here with so well. 75 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: I was really leaning into your sort of amazing commitment 76 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: to am far into raising the awareness, to the amount 77 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: of money and to your commitment to HIV AIDS and 78 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: what you've done as a human. It's breast cancer home 79 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: listeners like always, I mean, it was that always a 80 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: part of it was a part of my upbringing. Right, Yeah, 81 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: it was a big part of my upbringing. You know, 82 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: it's not like I came from wealth, Nope, but I 83 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: in my universe, we weren't poor. It's hard to explain 84 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: that when you'd say, like my dad made fourteen grand 85 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: a year, but we weren't poor. So I grew up 86 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: in a very small rural community where, like, you know, 87 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: we were like ninety people my school. Right, kids drove 88 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: their tractors to school in the morning after they finished 89 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: their farm tours. Right. So we had two acres, which 90 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: is two two and a half acres, which is a 91 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: big parcel of land when it has next to it 92 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: a ravine with its own stream, where we would walk 93 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: down the edge of the ravine and you know, get 94 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: the ice in the winter and put it in a 95 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: bucket and have fun making ice cream in the basement 96 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,799 Speaker 1: with that with the crank thing. And my dad built 97 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: a treehouse on the side of the ravine with a 98 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: back door that had a rope with knots and we 99 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: could jump out and swing across the ravine. And he 100 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: put bunk beds in the treehouse. And you know, when 101 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: lightning stuck struck that tree, he brought it down with 102 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: a pulley and made it into a playhouse. From my 103 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: sister and Marianne, you know what I mean, very idyllic 104 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: kind of childhood. But we had neighbors, you know, and 105 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: neighbored by neighbors, I mean like a mile away who 106 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: had eight kids and were much poorer than we were. 107 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: So we provided their Thanksgiving and Christmas dinners and it 108 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: was like a secret like that, we drove with the 109 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: lights out in the car and put it on their 110 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: doorstep and put their presence and that kind of stuff, 111 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: and it was really great. And when my parents went 112 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: to somebody's house for dinner, they left early, and of 113 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: course my mother per usual, had a wet wash cloth 114 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: up in a plastic bag in her bag, and they 115 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: would stop in a field and my dad would walk 116 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: out into the field with a big newspapers and he 117 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: would cut a gigantic bundle of wild flowers and bundle 118 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,559 Speaker 1: them with binders twine and put them in the back 119 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: of the car, and then my mom would wash his 120 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: hands into with the washcloth in her thing and they 121 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: would wrap it with you know. That's what they would 122 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: take for dinner, was this gigantic bundle of wild flowers. 123 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: That was a romance of My parents were wildly in 124 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: love with each other's beautiful I mean, they fell in love. 125 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: She got pregnant at sixteen, he was seventeen. They both 126 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: had no parents. You know, my dad came from an 127 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: extremely wealthy oil family, and the oil well blew when 128 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: he was little, when he was four and killed everybody. 129 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: And then they were suddenly went from great wealth to destitution, 130 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: right you said, or his nephew or somebody took over 131 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: the business. And his nephew, who was eighteen, Yeah, because women, 132 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: even though my grandmother's money was in this, women didn't 133 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: get the money. And this is why my dad became 134 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: such a diehard feminist, because the eighteen year old nephew 135 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: got all the money, and of course blew it at 136 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: the track sous so a couple of years and everybody 137 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: was completely broke. And you know, my dad just could 138 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: not fathom that his mother, who was my Grandmaalela, who 139 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: was tough as nails. I mean, this is a woman 140 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: who walked her property in a Chapparelli suit with her 141 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: German shepherd Rex in his studded collar, in her black 142 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: jack and her other hand. You know, but she wasn't 143 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: getting her due because she was certainly capable and tough 144 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: enough to handle it. Yeah, reading about your childhood was 145 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: absolutely amazing because I to lose everything, right, Yeah, you know, 146 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: you'll lose everything, and you what you have to constantly 147 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: remember is you don't lose everything, right. You'll lose stuff, right, stuff, Yeah, yeah, 148 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: and the crocodiles will give it to you, and the 149 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: crocodiles will take it away. And the great thing is, 150 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: as long as the crocodiles don't get you, you're You're 151 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: a guy. So now you're like this movie star. And 152 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: now you're also because it's in your DNA, you're leaning in, 153 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: you're giving back, You're you're separating, You're not so because 154 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: at that time, Oh, that's the point of fame, I think, yeah, right, 155 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: is it's you've got this big purple dinosaur hanging onto 156 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: you everywhere you go. If that dinosaur isn't working for 157 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: you and for the people, yeah, it's gonna eat you. 158 00:10:54,800 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: What was you're leaning into? Hiv aids? Well, I was 159 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: in can and I got asked to fill in for 160 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: a night for Elizabeth Taylor, and it was an incredibly 161 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: moving experience. I mean, mind blowing because while I had 162 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: been in the modeling industry, which has been very good 163 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: to me, very good to me when I was nineteen 164 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: in New York, and which I can say is the 165 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: business where I have really learned the most. I have 166 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: learned more about myself and others in that business than 167 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: anywhere in the world. It's taken me around the world, 168 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: It's introduced me to more people, and there's more loyalty 169 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: and family and we have to get down to work 170 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: in that business than in any other business I've ever 171 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: worked in. But not all of these businesses are kind back. 172 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: But in my business when the modeling business, we look 173 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: out for each other and we don't want the business 174 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: to just go by the wayside, and we want to 175 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: look out for each other. At least I do, and 176 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: I can say I have tremendous respect for people like 177 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: Anna Wintour and these photographers that have carried endless pounds 178 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 1: of cameras on their backs for their whole lives. And 179 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: like I do in the movie business, when I see 180 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: people dragging cable and the rain is coming down and 181 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: then I'm not on set, I would be inclined to 182 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: drag some cable. Anna sat with me at lunch. And 183 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: she's an incredible woman. She has your passion and your 184 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: romance for her work, and so generous, yeah, and so elegant. 185 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: And believe me, I didn't understand her when I was 186 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: a young person. She's a very shy, ye shy woman. Yes, okay, 187 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: So you're the modeling and leaning into the HIV aids. Well, 188 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: when they asked me to come back, they after I 189 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: did the first one, and they said would I do 190 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: three more years? And because I recognized that Elizabeth was 191 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 1: winding down and her ability to continue to do it, 192 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:23,599 Speaker 1: and so I said sure, I would do three more years. 193 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: And I said, um, gorgeous, thank you. That's the way 194 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: that you enjoy Thank you so much. Well, of course 195 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: I said sure, most for ours, right Okay, So I 196 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: said sure I would do three more years. And you know, 197 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: I'm a problem solver. You are you are a problem 198 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm a person that gets that stuff off my desk. 199 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm a person and that you know, if something needs 200 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: to get done, I do it today. I'm a person that, like, 201 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: if there's an issue, I'm not the person that like 202 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: likes to talk around it. If someone's doing something that's 203 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: just bullshit. I'm like the person that calls bullshit. I'm 204 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: you are a truth teller. I really am. And I 205 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: know it concerns people. Yeah, of course it really concerned that. No, 206 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: they don't. And frankly, I don't always like it. I 207 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: don't like that I'm not, you know more suave people 208 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: are lauded for diplomacy, but I think there's a lot 209 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: of time wasted with people not talking about what's really 210 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: actually going on. You know. My dad always used to say, 211 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: you know, I like give it to me with the 212 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: bark on right, and people think that it's cruel a 213 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: lot when you just say it the way that it is. 214 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: I I feel like, if I really respect you, I'm 215 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: gonna tell it like it is. Yeah, And if I 216 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: don't respect you, I don't really care what you think 217 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: or what you if you want to know or anything, 218 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: because it's not worth my time to get into it 219 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: with you because you're not going to get it. And 220 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: why bother. I mean, it's digging because we're gonna and 221 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: that's not it, you know. And I think that one 222 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: of the things that's consistent with what you can see 223 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: with your life and your career is your ability to 224 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: tell the truth and say this is no, no, no no, 225 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: this is not the way this is going to go down. 226 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: Like right, I see it as it is, and I 227 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: think that that is so refreshing you like that. I mean, come, um, 228 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: which I love I love about I really admire that, Sharon, 229 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: about you. And I've seen it from the distance that 230 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: you know, I find it so interesting how like it. 231 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: I see that it's gotten you in trouble like of course, 232 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: because people don't want because they want people to fit 233 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: in their their zones, you know, like their their buckets. 234 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden you have you. But 235 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: have you come with all the smarts, his brain, his body, 236 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: this beauty that's threatening? I think, well truth right, no, right, 237 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: Welcome back to my lunch with Sharon Stone on table 238 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: for two with burger in hand and some crispy fries. 239 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: Sharon told me about a wardrobe emergency that took place 240 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: right before a pretty major award show. I mean, you 241 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 1: tell a story which I thought was interesting. You get 242 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: to can your bag is lost. No one, all these 243 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: actresses are around with, you know, clothes on racks, and 244 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: no one wants to give you shit because you're a threat. 245 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, like, can you tell me 246 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: about that. I'm so interesting because I think that's that's 247 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: a thing that you've been able to sort of beautifully 248 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: navigate in your life. When I went to can the 249 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: first time and yeah, bags didn't come. Yeah, but you 250 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: also know, navigating people who want to push backron you 251 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: and I didn't. And I didn't have any money, and 252 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 1: I couldn't buy new clothes, so I had to keep 253 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: figuring out how to make what I had on in 254 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: just sixteen different outfits. You. But it's like when I 255 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: first got invited to the Oscars, right before Basic Instinct 256 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:06,719 Speaker 1: had come out. Movie hadn't come out, so no one 257 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: would lend me a dress. And then it came out 258 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: like a few days right before the Oscars or something, 259 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: and I was going to present, but no one would 260 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: give me a dress. It was unbelievable because I didn't 261 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: have any money to buy anything. And I was like, 262 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: oh my god, all these people in their forty thousand 263 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars dresses. And I went and bought 264 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: it Betsy Johnson jumpsuit because that was it, a polyester jumpsuit. 265 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: That was the best I could do. And I'm doing 266 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: my own hair and makeup right, And I was just 267 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: like wow, like this is awful, Like how am I 268 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: going to do this? Right? But then I got there 269 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: and I was like in the fourth or fifth row back, 270 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: which was really good. Yeah, And I was on the 271 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: aisle and I was seated right behind Anthony Hopkin, and 272 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: when I walked by, he put his hands together and 273 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: put them over his head like champion and held them 274 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: up to me when I passed him, and I was like, 275 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: oh my god, right, he saw my movie, right, and 276 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: he's giving me that right thing, the champion, Like yes, right. 277 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: And I told my dad and my dad was like, kid, 278 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: you could look good in the burlaps, that's right at 279 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: the end of the day. And I was like, oh right. 280 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: And so after that, I thought, you know, it doesn't matter. 281 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: I could wear a T shirt to the Oscars and 282 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: so I did. Right. Well, I mean two things. One 283 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: is yeah, that's you know, your strength, your power of 284 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: mind and beauty and you and you so you're like, okay, 285 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: you did not go, you went. You threw it on. 286 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: Hopkins is saying, yes, the world's about to see you 287 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: in a major way. What did it feel like and 288 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: how did that journey, the lack of effing generosity of 289 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,719 Speaker 1: people when you're sitting in a room you got, you 290 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: got yourself in that room, and now you have the 291 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: lack of generosity, Like, but you didn't use Joe's not 292 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: to leave the room. You're like, I'm here, and that's 293 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: what to me is Well, it was hard because when 294 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: I got I got nominated for a Golden Globe for 295 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: that part. And when I went to the Golden Globes 296 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: and they called my name, a bunch of people in 297 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: the room laughed. It was horrible. It was horrible. It 298 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: was horrible. Oh my god, it was horrible. I was 299 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: so humiliated. I was so humiliated. And I was like, 300 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: does anybody have any idea how hard it was to 301 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: play that part? How gut wrenching and it's frightening, and 302 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: how much work it was to play this part and 303 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: kind of try to carry this complaint ex movie that 304 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: was really breaking all boundaries and everybody was protesting against 305 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: and the pressure and I auditioned for it for nine months, 306 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: which I can't go over. They offered it to thirteen 307 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: other people and now you're laughing at me. I was 308 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, I just wanted to crawl 309 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: into a hole, you know, yeah, no, of course you did. 310 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: And then you know, I lost custody of my child 311 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: when the judge asked my child, my tiny, little tiny boy, 312 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: do you know your mother makes sex movies? Like this 313 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: kind of abuse by this system, this kind of abuse 314 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: that I was considered what kind of parent I was? 315 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: Because I made that movie. People are walking around with 316 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:55,479 Speaker 1: no clothes on at all on regular TV now and 317 00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: you saw maybe like maybe like sixteenth of a second 318 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: of possible nudity of me right right, right and now. 319 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: And I was custody. I was custody of my child. 320 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: How did you survive that? Are you kidding? I ended 321 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: up in the Mayo clinic with extra heartbeats in my 322 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: upper and lower chamber of my heart. I did not 323 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: know that when you say break your heart, yea, it 324 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: broke my heart. It broke your heart. Literally, that broke 325 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: right the whole thing. Yes, upper and lower chambers, it 326 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: broke my heart. I went in to get a mammogram 327 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: and they're like, something's wrong. We need you to do 328 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: a treadmill test. And I'm like what. All the doctors 329 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: came running in, They're like, whoa that's crazy, Sharon. And 330 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: if you look, if you look at that moment, would 331 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,959 Speaker 1: that happened today? We have a whole different right now 332 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: we're put through the Ringer'd be illegal. You were playing 333 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: a part like what you said was when an audience 334 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: comes to see a movie versus like one critic comments 335 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: to see a movie like you know, we come. I mean, 336 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: you know the guy that played Jeffrey Dalmer. No one 337 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: thinks that he's a people who eats people? Right? Do 338 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? As he said, you know, 339 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: this is a very hard part to play. It was 340 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: very hard to watch. I hope we got something from it, right, 341 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: Its eaters exactly. It doesn't turn him into a serial 342 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: killer who eats people or make him an antisocial person. 343 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: It makes a very complex person who took an incredibly 344 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: difficult part which probably made him ill to play. Sure, 345 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: it is brutal to play these characters. Oh yeah, And 346 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: this is why I don't play them anymore. I don't 347 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: want to. And it's one thing for the audience not 348 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: to understand that piece. If you're an actor, what you 349 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: have to go through. But it's a whole another story 350 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: when you're your peers and you're the people in the 351 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: business are not understanding that, and like you're losing custody 352 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: and you have the legal system. I mean you're like, 353 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: wait a minute, I mean you know this is my job, 354 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: Like this is oh I hate to do and none 355 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: of you know. The fact that you went through it 356 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: is absolutely and literally it sort of ended my dating 357 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: world because men were afraid of you. And I also 358 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: think that men didn't want to data woman that other 359 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: men thought of like that right, and that's also a 360 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: failure of the male. Yeah reality, sure, that's your own shit. 361 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: Yeah really, yeah, I can't wade through that situation. Then 362 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,239 Speaker 1: you go on and you go on to what is 363 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: like one of the most amazing performances I've ever seen, 364 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: which is of course in Casino, and here you are. 365 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: Now I was so blessed. Come on, you're working like 366 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: you're working with de Niro, You're working with Frans actorking 367 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: with Peshi in the business, the greatest director of all times. Yes, 368 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: and there you are, that beautiful face, that incredible performance, 369 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: that whole thing, that whole transformation from like when you 370 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: exerts the drugs and it goes dark and everything. First 371 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: of all, I love that movie. I love that movie. 372 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: I mean, and I love those guys. I love that 373 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: Nick Poleggi script. Yeah, Nick Poggi, he's amazing. So tell 374 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: me about that tray. So you go from ninety two 375 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: to ninety five and then you end up back in 376 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: the room where they laughed at you. You win a glow, 377 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: You're nominated for an Oscar. How does that feel? It 378 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: was super surprised. I mean, they told me we can 379 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: run you for supporting actress, you'll win the Oscar. You 380 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: can't win for a leading lady. That they're never gonna 381 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: let you get a leading lady Oscar. They're never gonna 382 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: let you get because of the size of the part, 383 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: because it was you, because it was me and I. 384 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: But I am the leading lady in the film, right, 385 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: So I want to run for leading Lady. And they said, 386 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: but you won't win, and I said, I don't care. 387 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: I'm not in it to win it. That's not the 388 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: point here. The point is the actual work that I 389 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: did right. And I did the work. You did the 390 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: leading lady work for five months with Robert de Niro 391 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: and Joe Pesci and James Woods. Right, I did the 392 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: work right. So I'm going to be in the category 393 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: for the work that I did, right, I'm not in 394 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: it so that you'll say, oh, okay, right, okay, Sar, 395 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: if you could have it, you can have the statue. 396 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: Right now, I'm in the lane that I drove in 397 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: perfectly and thanks. So I didn't expect to get the 398 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: oscar because people don't think of me as an actress, 399 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: you know. They don't think of me as a person 400 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: who loves her craft, you know what I mean. Because 401 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: I don't walk around saying that. I don't walk around 402 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: saying like I'm a dramatic actress. I don't walk around 403 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 1: having discussions on TV about my dramatic acting. Right. I 404 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 1: don't talk about my art for right, because I don't 405 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: think of it like that at all. To me. I know, Greta, 406 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: Greta Garbo is looking at me like a literally, which 407 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: is more. I used to have dinner with her and 408 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: not with her. This is so wonderful. She lived like 409 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: three blocks from me in New York when I was 410 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: a young girl. She used to walk around New York 411 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: her big hat and her big coat and her goloshes 412 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: and me too, and we would go to this restaurant 413 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: that was between our houses and sit alone at tables, 414 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: facing each other, really, and we had dinner in this 415 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: same restaurant, facing each other dozens of times. You're blowing 416 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: me away. And I never spoke to her, and she 417 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: never spoke to me. But alone in this restaurant, I 418 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: sat with Greta Garbo. Wow, and that's the universe again, right, 419 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: And she's looking at me like you're trying to explain this. 420 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: I know, Greta Garbo. I feel like Grega Garbo right now. 421 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: It's like trying to explain how the wind meets the trees. 422 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: You're like, what I do. And this is why I 423 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,239 Speaker 1: love playing people that already lived, because I feel like 424 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: I opened my soul and let them talk through me. 425 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: And so I'm not a dramatic actress. I am a 426 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: spiritual conduit. And when I have the extraordinary pleasure and 427 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: honor of receiving a script that is actually intended for me, 428 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,959 Speaker 1: I know it when I get it, and I feel 429 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: like I knew it when I got the Casino script. 430 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: They didn't know it when I got the Casino script, 431 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 1: and they were seeing so many other people really, and 432 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: I was just like, I'm going to wait till they're 433 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,719 Speaker 1: done with that. Yeah, I love that. I love your 434 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: ability to take a step back because I also feel 435 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: like one of the big things in life is timing 436 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: when you were seeing and to say, like, I'm supposed 437 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: to play Phillis Stiller, and I know that, like I'm 438 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: sitting here with you, right, I just know it. That's fantastic. 439 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: Like there are people I'm supposed to play. It's going 440 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: to happen or they're going to miss it. Right. I 441 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: was great friends with Phillis. I went to her house, 442 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: I had dinner with her multitudes of time. She taught 443 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: me her laugh. You know, I know I was supposed 444 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: to play her. She didn't even get famous at all 445 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: until she was in her forties. I'm supposed to play Phyllis. 446 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: I love, Like, like literature, I'm going to take a 447 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: picture of it, like so I could post it and 448 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: show people like you're trying to explain, yes, she really is, 449 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: and that you have all those moments. It was just 450 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,959 Speaker 1: so wonderful. I would sit in this table that was 451 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: to the like the left front, and she would sit 452 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: on the back right looking forward, and I would sit 453 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: in the left front looking back, and I used to 454 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: just think This is so great My Dinners with Garbo. 455 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Table for two. As I mentioned at 456 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,479 Speaker 1: the beginning of the show, one of the amazing and 457 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: endearing things about Sharon Stone is that she is so outspoken. 458 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: Sharon talks very candidly about the harring events at the 459 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: heart of her book, The Beauty of Living Twice. So 460 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: in your memoir, you know, you're very honest about when 461 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: you were in your early forties and you had the 462 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: brain emerge and like that whole experience. It's so rivening. 463 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: I'm telling you read this book and one of The 464 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: Beauty of Living Twice available on amazone in any Star 465 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: exactly good fun. The fact that you share that you 466 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: crossed over and you saw people you love made me 467 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: feel so at peace. Oh you should feel at peace 468 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: and even though you got the kick in the chest 469 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: to come back. Yeah, so I'd like to know about 470 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,959 Speaker 1: that and your grandmother coming saying don't move your yeah, 471 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: this is These are like things because you and then 472 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: your strength to say what are you doing here as 473 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: you're being wheeled in, don't do that? This is I 474 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: need to know more about this operation before you do it, Like, 475 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: tell me about those things. That. So, first of all, 476 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: when this happened to me, I felt very disenfranchised. I 477 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: was not getting the help that I needed. So I 478 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: didn't get to the hospital for three days of this 479 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: brain blead home. I was home, Yeah, and I was 480 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: calling and trying and asking and begging and bleeding and 481 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: wanting to get to the hospital, but couldn't get there. Eventually, 482 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: when I got to the hospital and I had the 483 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: first MRI and they discovered the brain blead and they 484 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: realized how long it had been going on, I was 485 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: in really bad shape. Yeah, that's where I had the 486 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: initial what I call like the white out, you know, 487 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: where I was dying and coming back. They then immediately 488 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: transferred me to a hospital that had a neurological I 489 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: see you, and a neurological I see you is just 490 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: a wheel, a circle around a nurse's station. It's not 491 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: they're not rooms, and there's just ae drape separating each person. 492 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: And it's an incredibly traumatic environment for many reasons, one 493 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: of which is the neurological pain is unbelievably painful. First 494 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,719 Speaker 1: of all, you don't even know where it is because 495 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: it's all over the place, and it's inside and outside 496 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: of your body. So when it was happening, I was 497 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: actually holding outside my head. I was holding above my 498 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: head like I was holding yes in the crown chakra 499 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: above my head. I was holding this space outside my 500 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: head and holding onto it like it was sitting on 501 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: top of my head screaming. I think I was holding 502 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: my beingness, which was literally outside my body. And so 503 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: after a few days of this screaming because they had 504 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: missed it when they went in, well, they went in 505 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: it through my phemeral artery and scanned and missed my 506 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: why this was happening to me. So I'd been laying 507 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: on one side, which was less painful, so the blood 508 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,919 Speaker 1: had pulled on the opposite side of my head, so 509 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: they didn't know what was going on. And that's really 510 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: heavy when everybody screaming and you're all fighting for your 511 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: life or all of our beds are on scales and 512 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: it's your body mass that they're measuring, right, So I 513 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: lost eighteen percent of my body mass in the nine 514 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: days I was in there. And you can only have 515 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: like a guest at a time, and so my friends, 516 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: my family are there. I had like my really my 517 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 1: ride or die, best friend Donna Shavo. She slept in 518 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: an alcove of a window in the hospital the entire week. 519 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: You know, my mother sat outside the room. It was unreal, 520 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 1: and I didn't meet and I didn't know what to do, 521 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: and for some reason, they weren't putting me on nutrition. Yeah. 522 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: I'm like about to ask you you're not you don't 523 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: have an IVY with I'm satly yeah right, but like, 524 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. And my dad became 525 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: so desperate and so he really, my dad, God rest, 526 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: it is amazing. So he said, would you have a milkshake, honey? 527 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, Dad. He went to the store, 528 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: he bought the milkshake, the ice cream, he bought ice, 529 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: he bought milk. He went home, he made me a milkshake. 530 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: He put it in a mason jar, packed it in ice, 531 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: brought it to the hospital and fed it to me. Wow, okay, yeah, 532 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: says everything right, Yeah right, I think because you know, 533 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: my dad got a stop at Joe Cancer after that. Yeah. 534 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: And I always said, you know that my dad, I know, 535 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: said the prayer that I say for my children, which 536 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: is give it to me. Yeah, give it to me. 537 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: But any parent wants of course you say give it 538 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 1: to me. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that my dad 539 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: got sick because he said, give it to me, let 540 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: her live, give it to me. Yeah. Wow. Sure. And 541 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: I just think that that's what we do as barons. 542 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: We say, give me the drama, give me what it is, 543 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: let me garriott, let me help them, yeah, take me, 544 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: take me. Yeah. But you were able to, I mean, 545 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: between the stories of your mom and your dad and 546 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: your dad doing that the strength the survivor, and you 547 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,439 Speaker 1: to be also to have the voice, because so many 548 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 1: of us don't have the voice, the courage to say no, 549 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,919 Speaker 1: I don't want to do this. I don't understand this. 550 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: This is power. You've been surrounded by so much power 551 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: in your life. You emanate that so profoundly. I feel 552 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 1: it's a hell of a survival story. It really it 553 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 1: wasn't you know. It wasn't like a snappy comeback. No. 554 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 1: You know. I had to learn to walk. Yeah, I 555 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 1: had to learn to talk because I came out of 556 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: it with a really bad stutter. I lost my depth 557 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: perception right well, everything hearing blew out in my right ear. 558 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: I mean I was walking on the tops of my 559 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 1: feet when I left that husband. Yeah, it's amazing, you know, 560 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: the narrative of your life that takes you from Pennsylvania 561 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,919 Speaker 1: and like you said, a poor but not a poor 562 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,720 Speaker 1: family because of everybody else, and then where you land 563 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: because Middle America, my friend is poor. Yes, it's poor. Yeah, 564 00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: so's the painting that you're doing now? Is that an express? Like? 565 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: How did that? Because you didn't go to university that 566 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: you could have gone. I didn't go to university. Was 567 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: university and I finished and got my bachelor's degree because 568 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: I was out here and Hillary Clinton came to talk 569 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: to a bunch of us and she was like, you know, 570 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: you guys have so much power that you don't even realize. 571 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,280 Speaker 1: You can do anything you want to do. You're an artist, 572 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: but you can go outside your art form. You can 573 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: write a song, you can do this, you can do that. 574 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: Because you have more power than you're using. You can 575 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: do whatever you want. And I started. Really, I was 576 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: sitting on the floor because so many of us came, 577 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: there weren't places to sit. So I was sitting very 578 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,800 Speaker 1: near her, and I was thinking about what she was saying, 579 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: and I thought, you know what, And so I wrote 580 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: a song for Katrina and I wrote the title track 581 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: song for Come Together Now to Come Together Now Katrina album. 582 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,479 Speaker 1: I wrote the lyrics WHOA, and I started getting people together. 583 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, we're going to write an album for katrain them, 584 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: and everybody's like, you can't do that, and you can't 585 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: get the artists and these artists are all under contract 586 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: and blah blah blah, and you can't do it. And man, 587 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: let me tell you the resistance I got. And I 588 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: never really got the credit for writing the lyrics because 589 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 1: you have to really give up everything in order to 590 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: get anything done. But I didn't do it to get credit. 591 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: I did it to get it done right right. And 592 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: then Planet Hope, my sister Kelly and I's organization, we 593 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: went down there and we got those soldiers who were 594 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: holding all the supplies in the trucks because they took 595 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: the trucks down there, but then they didn't give the 596 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: stuff to the people. Okay, so the whole bullshit of 597 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: we're taking all these trucks down here, yeah, they did, 598 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: but they didn't open the trucks, so it was like 599 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 1: getting them to open the trucks. We also planned to 600 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: Hope went down there and we bought kegs of beer 601 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: right for the soldiers because guess what, that's how you 602 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: get the trucks open right, right. And then we bought 603 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 1: things for people that like the little things, eye class prescriptions, 604 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: how you get your diabetes, your insulin filled, how you 605 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: get your dentures, all the things that like the little 606 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 1: things that people couldn't get back right, And we did 607 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 1: on the ground stuff. But you know, we had a 608 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: lot of girls from New Orleans and Louisiana and we 609 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: call them are steel Magnolias. Yeah, and those girls, those 610 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: girls can get stuff done right. So we get stuff 611 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: done on the ground. We worked with Burlington Coat Factory. 612 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: We get coats for kids to go to school. We 613 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: work with you people to donate their seconds so we 614 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: can get shoes for these migrant workers kids. You got 615 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: to get on the ground and get in there. So 616 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: that's when I started being a lyricist because I was like, 617 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: oh wait a second, I can write songs about things 618 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: that matter, you know, like this Nobel Peace Prize winner 619 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: was machine gun to death in his car going to 620 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: the airport in South America because he was in a 621 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: car convoy and it was supposed to be like a 622 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 1: cartel guy that was was going to be hit and 623 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 1: they hit the wrong person. So I wrote a song 624 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 1: about that guy. What's it like to know that as 625 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: these killers are coming towards your car that that's it. 626 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: It's the end of your life. And you spent your 627 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,439 Speaker 1: life about peace. You're such an artist, right, I mean, 628 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: you're such a prolific artist to owe you to thank you, 629 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: to express yourself. And so I thought, you know what, 630 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: I can do these things. So I went back to 631 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 1: college and got mine my bachelor's degree exactly because it's like, yes, 632 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: I can do this. I can do this, and I'm 633 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 1: going to go get my bachelor's degree. And when it 634 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 1: came in the mail, I was so proud, Sharon, as 635 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: we said of wrap a lunch because I can literally 636 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: sit with you. We're going to have many lunches together 637 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: our home and not always I obtes I have questions 638 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 1: for you. You do yes? Oh my god, I want 639 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: to say, who interviews you? I'm gonna come and interview 640 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: you for your interviews? Would you do that? Yes? Yes, 641 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 1: Bruce Bozzy Sharon Stone, Yeah, okay, you heard that. We're 642 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: gonna do that. Be an honor. Um. 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