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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steeler Nation. It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. Wes Jeweler and Matt Williamson with you here

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Speaker 2: on a Tuesday where we have got plenty to get to.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna catch up with Chris Adamski. We've got all

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Speaker 2: the latest from Mike Tomlin's latest press conference. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: little fantasy football focused, power rankings, all that good Tuesday stuff.

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Speaker 2: Matthew here, as we get closer to the month of

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Speaker 2: October and the road, may you look at it across

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Speaker 2: the NFL now, we are at the road narrowing portion

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Speaker 2: of the season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's your point.

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Speaker 2: The good teams are separating a little bit. Yeah, bad

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Speaker 2: teams have continued to fall down, and there is kind

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Speaker 2: of a clear middle class now of teams that are,

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Speaker 2: you know, looking to keep their head above water and

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Speaker 2: stay in it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And I think we've seen for a while now,

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Speaker 3: or earlier than most NFL seasons, who the junco teams are.

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Speaker 3: I mean, who the crappy teams are. I mean, they've

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Speaker 3: been pretty apparent. And I don't think i've changed my

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Speaker 3: opinion on any of them, Like boy, they're coming back,

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Speaker 3: you know. And I didn't put like Houston in that category.

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Speaker 3: I never thought they were Jets shoting Raiders. But this

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Speaker 3: past weekend, I think there were six games won by

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Speaker 3: twenty or more points at something along those lines.

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Speaker 2: Clost Yeah, it would have been one, Buffalo would have

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Speaker 2: been one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Miami doesn't qualify. Good for them for the win.

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Speaker 3: But I think some of the teams, including the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: last night, said Okay, now we're a tier the Tier

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Speaker 3: one teams are starting to show or another one, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: And we're, you know, one week away from the trade

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Speaker 3: deadline today. We might hear something at this point, you know,

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Speaker 3: on that day. So there's the haves and have nots

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Speaker 3: are becoming more and more clear. Now there are the

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Speaker 3: Steelers people in the middle, and some of them will

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Speaker 3: go one direction or the other. And now it's pivotal time.

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Speaker 3: The road's erring for those teams.

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Speaker 2: The road is certainly narrowing for those teams. And this

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Speaker 2: is getting close to getting close to crunch time. Here

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Speaker 2: is we're staring down Halloween on Friday, and you know

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Speaker 2: that's that's kind of the first of the holiday season here,

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Speaker 2: and the road will get more narrow and narrow as

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Speaker 2: we get to Thanksgiving and Christmas and on down the line. Certainly,

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Speaker 2: let's give kind of maybe the final Packers Steelers dedicated

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Speaker 2: segment of the week. No, people will continue to reference

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Speaker 2: the game and talk about it, obviously, but sure the

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Speaker 2: way that we kind of finish directly talking about it

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Speaker 2: and really you know, dedicated segments to it every single

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Speaker 2: week is, of course, with our Tuesday rewind and Matt,

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Speaker 2: let's start. We did the good old fashioned radio teas

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Speaker 2: thing yesterday when we said, let's talk a little bit

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Speaker 2: more about safety. Let's talk a little bit more about

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Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey. Matt, what do you do at safety now

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Speaker 2: if you are the Pittsburgh Steelers. Sounds like it might

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Speaker 2: not be season ending for Deshaun Elliott. That is one thing. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about this a little bit more with Chris

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Speaker 2: Danski next, but still up in the air if they're

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Speaker 2: gonna put him on IR or not, So that at

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Speaker 2: least makes it sound a little more optimistic than just

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Speaker 2: he's gonna miss a ton of time. If they're contemplating

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Speaker 2: putting him on IR or not, it's a hyper extended

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Speaker 2: knee for Deshaun Elliott. That's actually good, I mean, better

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think I've mentioned this on a Tuesday before,

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Speaker 3: I'm not privileged to by Tomlin's press conference until we

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Speaker 3: works for me because then I'm like, oh, that's good news.

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Speaker 3: I just gotta react organically. You're right, right, I assumed,

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Speaker 3: and I've just been operating since you know, the game ended,

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Speaker 3: that Elliott season was over. So anything's great. I mean,

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Speaker 3: want to know more about Peppers. Why isn't he getting more?

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Speaker 3: I think he was at twelve or thirteen snaps this

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Speaker 3: been more of the problem in the solution too. And

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Speaker 3: actually all these guys have been I mean Peppers, I

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Speaker 3: can't blame yeah, exactly exactly, and I can't blame Peppers,

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Speaker 3: but there a job there to grab. Why haven't you

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Speaker 3: you know that? So I I don't know. I'm I

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Speaker 3: think we need to talk through it this week.

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Speaker 2: We do, and let's get into some of that now.

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Speaker 2: According to Mike Tomlin, the Steelers are working out Von

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Speaker 2: Bell and Eddie Jackson today. Okay, he said, if we

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Speaker 2: sign them, you'll hear about it. Uh. But the biggest

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Speaker 2: question to me, I think, is what to do until

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Speaker 2: we know safety? Both safety, Yes, should should have mentioned

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Speaker 2: everybody new both veteran safeties.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they've had decent careers. No, exactly, they're kind of specially.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a reason why they're still available in late October.

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Speaker 2: I think the real X factor in this is Jalen

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Speaker 2: Ramsey And what would you do with him? Would you

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Speaker 2: continue to move him around, use him at Nickel, put him,

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Speaker 2: you know almost, Matt. I think there's some parallels and

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Speaker 2: you and I also hit on this yesterday. It becomes

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Speaker 2: more difficult now because your bye week is behind you,

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Speaker 2: your ten day extra stretch after Thursday night football is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, things are gonna start quick.

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Speaker 2: But like I keep remembering what the Ravens did last year,

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Speaker 2: and they went to Kyle Hamilton after the bye week

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Speaker 2: and they asked him to just be that center fielder

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Speaker 3: And like Hamilton, Ramsey knows how to do that. It's

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Speaker 3: not an old dog nude trick exactly when I asked

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Speaker 3: you to play left tackle.

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Speaker 2: And so they don't have the luxury like Baltimore did.

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Speaker 2: Of we've got an extra week here to really talk

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Speaker 2: about this, study, this install this change your role. But

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Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey's also more of a veteran at this stage

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Speaker 2: that time. Would you consider moving Jalen Ramsey back there,

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Speaker 2: if even full time majority of the time, to stabilize

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would consider it. I'm not saying again that's

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Speaker 3: my answer because so there's two wild cards to me

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Speaker 3: currently in the secondary Pepper, as I mentioned, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I still hold and not hope that he can that

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Speaker 3: and an every down type guy. But Trice's windows also

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Speaker 3: I need to double check that too, but I think

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Speaker 3: Trice could get back in the mix. And why I

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Speaker 3: bring that up is if you were to move Ramsey

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Speaker 3: to center field, Basically your corner situation is pretty obvious.

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Speaker 3: It's Sleigh on one side, Porter on the other, Echoles

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Speaker 3: in the middle, which is okay, but I'm souring on Sleigh.

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Speaker 3: I at least want some other outside option.

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Speaker 2: Or you'd probably rather have Echos outside. But then what

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Speaker 2: do you do a Nickel right exactly.

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Speaker 3: Out there too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I might even gonna call him a wild card, but

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Speaker 3: at least you I'm happy he's here all of a sudden.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's the way that's way the league works.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're one injury away from calling him up too.

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Speaker 3: But maybe Trice could compete with Sleigh on the outside.

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Speaker 3: But you get worse everywhere, you know. I mean, now,

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Speaker 3: I guess you're not worse at free safety. I think

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Speaker 3: Ramsey at free safety is better than Thornhill at free safety,

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Speaker 3: but you're definitely worse in the slot, the run defense,

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Speaker 3: all the Ramsey stuff near the line of scrimmage, which

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Speaker 3: is why you got him in the first place. He's

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Speaker 3: still really good at that stuff. And I've been asked

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Speaker 3: a lot this week the Steelers miss Minka Fitzpatrick, and frankly,

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Speaker 3: I think make him might get traded. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 3: know if he's coming back what I'm applying, but right right,

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Speaker 3: it was a bad trade, but he'd be really useful

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Speaker 3: right now, no doubt. I mean, I always equated him

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Speaker 3: to like a great hockey goalie because your defenseman can

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Speaker 3: like be more earl Thomas, those ten guys in front

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Speaker 3: of him used to be way more aggressive because I.

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Speaker 2: Got to get a good goalie behind.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly exact Grant Furor with Paul Coffee.

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Speaker 2: You know that type of thing. A good rim protector

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Speaker 3: You know, I just trust that.

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Speaker 2: Dude, good rim protector in the paint.

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Speaker 3: So I do think Ramsey could be that guy though,

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Speaker 3: if you just kind of parked them in the deep

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Speaker 3: the other ten being aggressive than if it's Thornhill. And again,

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Speaker 3: I'm just talking about all this stuff out loud. I

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Speaker 3: don't have this answer yet. No, it's a mess.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think, and I don't think anybody does.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: Maybe even down in those four walls on the south side,

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Speaker 2: they tell you the same thing.

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Speaker 3: And maybe the answer to the question is Elliott not

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Speaker 3: in the picture. Who are your five best defensive backs?

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Speaker 2: Oh this is a good way to you, you.

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Speaker 3: Know what I mean. And we'll figure out the puzzle

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Speaker 3: pieces later. But what five do you want on the field?

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Speaker 2: Joey Porter?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think that's so three.

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Speaker 2: Those three for sure. And then I mean, then it's

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Speaker 2: at this stage, I think you still have to put

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Speaker 2: Sleigh which doesn't speak great to their depth, but I

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Speaker 2: think you would still have.

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Speaker 3: To in Thornhill or Clark or you maybe hope it's Peppers,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, you know what I mean it. And then

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Speaker 3: that is since ram has changed, Yeah, Ramsey's a safety.

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Speaker 2: Whereas we felt like and I'm not sold to sleighs

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Speaker 2: one of them. I'm not either, you know. And going

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Speaker 2: into this season, and even the first couple of weeks,

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Speaker 2: we were singing the complete opposite tune. You've got an

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Speaker 2: extra body.

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Speaker 3: In that exactly exactly.

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Speaker 2: Well, now some guys aren't performing quite up to snuff,

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Speaker 2: and you get another injury to Shaun Elliott, and it

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Speaker 2: feels like you're one short in that group.

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Speaker 3: Right, right, And one, I love Elliott, he's a really

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Speaker 3: good player. He's been a nice signing, but his absence shouldn't.

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Speaker 2: Tip the scales, right, I completely agree with that's a

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Speaker 2: good already.

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Speaker 2: As always, let's jump right into it and at a

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Speaker 2: it sounds like it might not be as bad as

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Speaker 4: I could definitely see that. But it's the problem or

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Speaker 4: I don't know what I mean. Trice isn't coming back

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Speaker 3: And you know we mentioned Beanie Bishop is still on

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Speaker 2: But.

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Speaker 4: small bets. He he's that type of player, I guess,

434
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Speaker 4: so in some ways he would fit in with what

435
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,359
Speaker 4: they what they could do. I guess, I mean, you know,

436
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 4: for being an undrafted rookie, he was pretty good last year,

437
00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 4: but I guess that's context to say A four being

438
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 4: an undrafted rookie, right.

439
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 3: They wanted to upgrade over him.

440
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, exactly that they clearly wanted to do that,

441
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 4: and they clearly you know, I didn't even put him

442
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 4: on a fifty three to start the season.

443
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,199
Speaker 2: So hey, don't don't you forget about Beanie A. Damski.

444
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 2: All right, Nobody, nobody, nobody puts the Mountaineers in the corner.

445
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 2: All right? It is uh, Chris Adamski here with us

446
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,399
Speaker 2: on the drive. Uh, like kind of flipping to the

447
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,439
Speaker 2: other side, spinning the block to the other side of

448
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 2: the ball. How are we feeling about the wide receiver

449
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 2: position now, and particularly with the emergence of Roman Wilson,

450
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 2: This is you know, has seemingly been something that it

451
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 2: feels like we talk about a lot, particularly when Calvin

452
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 2: Austin went down. This wide receiver conversation was back at

453
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,399
Speaker 2: the forefront, you know, working out free agents, going and

454
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 2: trading for somebody. But with what we've seen from Roman

455
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 2: Wilson the last couple of weeks, are you about as

456
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 2: maybe as confident in that position group as we've seen

457
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 2: to this point, Buzz.

458
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 4: I'm certainly as confident I've been in realin Wilson as

459
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,719
Speaker 4: I've seen. I was kind of more you know, of

460
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 4: the camp that it was probably more likely that he

461
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,159
Speaker 4: never was gonna you know, you know, be a sleeping

462
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 4: a part of an off the offense for the Steelers

463
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 4: that ever than I was to say he was going

464
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 4: to be a having one tournament starter or you know,

465
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:12,360
Speaker 4: the one of the top three receivers. And so you're

466
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 4: getting the opportunity in these past couple of weeks and

467
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 4: he obviously has I mean, it goes a long way

468
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 4: with the state of the offense right now. If you

469
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 4: have the uh, have the ear of the eyes of

470
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 4: number eight, I think that that goes a long way

471
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 4: in terms of what you can what you can accomplish.

472
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Speaker 4: And I do think Rogers likes Roman Wilsoner has some

473
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,439
Speaker 4: you know, affinity toward him and believes in him to

474
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 4: a point. And we saw that and hey, they are

475
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 4: what they are. You made the biggest play of in

476
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 4: terms of yards for the Steelers uh in that game.

477
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 4: He also had a touchdown in that game, so he

478
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 4: finally that was his you know, the most he's played

479
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 4: the most obviously he's been part of the offense. And

480
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 4: let's face it, you know, especially whenever Calvin Austin was out,

481
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 4: we saw with the lack of production up and down.

482
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 4: The lack of even targets, lack of catches, lack of

483
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 4: let alone touchdowns are big plays from the rest of

484
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 4: the wide receiver course. So there's a vacuum there. And

485
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 4: Rubin Wilson was a relatively high draft pick, and whatever's

486
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 4: gone on in the past with him and your injury

487
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 4: and everything else, somebody's got to be there. And you know,

488
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 4: you have a great trade deadline here coming up pretty soon.

489
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 4: Another way you can do it. But it was it

490
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 4: was certainly comforting to see I know a lot of

491
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 4: people from waiting for Rowan Wilson and to see that

492
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 4: there is something there, right. I mean, that was that

493
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,959
Speaker 4: wasn't a preseason game, that wasn't a practice that and

494
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 4: that was a real life football game against a good team,

495
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 4: and he made a couple of big plays. That shows

496
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 4: it's in there, and that shows there is the future

497
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 4: you can be part of the offense.

498
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had four catches and five targets going into

499
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 3: that game, and he had four catches and five targets

500
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 3: in that game, you know, so, I mean that's doubled

501
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 3: his production. I will take that. I mean, I think

502
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 3: he's at least trending the right direction. Last thing I

503
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 3: really have for you. It's another puzzle to me. It's

504
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 3: not quite as confounding as the secondary at the moment,

505
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 3: but I would hate for a Ciamalu injury to derail

506
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 3: the six to zero line package. And obviously Anderson's a

507
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 3: very capable left guard replacement. Would you is there another

508
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 3: old lineman you would make the new sixth guy, or

509
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 3: is there a guard you'd put it left guard and

510
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 3: make Anderson the sixth guy for fifteen twenty snaps a game?

511
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 3: Or do we fear that that's shot?

512
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 4: Well, I did a little bit digging yesterday on the

513
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 4: jumbo tight end and Cayle Anderson said he although the

514
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 4: PFF that doesn't reflect it. So I don't know what

515
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 4: if he means. I don't know what he said. I

516
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 4: did it a lot. We said. He always says one

517
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 4: snap and the thing's all on one route, but I was.

518
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 4: He claims he's been he has, I don't expensive, I

519
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 4: don't know, you know, dozens of snaps in the NFL

520
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 4: level as the jumbo tight end. He knows we're doing,

521
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 4: capable of doing it, and he's wrapped out at some

522
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 4: I would imagine he's the most likely candidate, I mean

523
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 4: the other I guess it was on the table that

524
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 4: we talked a little bit about that that Pete would

525
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 4: Pete maybe even start I guess over Spencer Anderson. But

526
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 4: I think they really like Spencer Edd. I think organization,

527
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 4: I know they're not making a decision for this reason,

528
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 4: but I think that it's important maybe to you know,

529
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 4: if Sam All is out just for a couple of weeks,

530
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 4: get Spencer Anderson starting, you know, a couple starts in here,

531
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Speaker 4: you have a decision to make. You could probably sign

532
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 4: him next in March to like a Nate her big

533
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 4: type deal where he's getting between starter and backup money,

534
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 4: and then be your starter at left guard next year.

535
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 4: You know they're going forward the next couple of years.

536
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 3: I bet that's the plan, no matter what.

537
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 4: You know.

538
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe you draft the guard in the third

539
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 3: round and they compete or whatever. You have some depth.

540
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, So if that's the case and they see him

541
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 4: as that, then and because he's just the obvious guy

542
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 4: to start at left guard, and you kind of I

543
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 4: want to say, jumble back age be Dan, but obviously

544
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 4: he's more important to have the starting the better starting

545
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 4: left guard or your best option there and and I

546
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 4: and you know, Calvin said he's repted some during practices here.

547
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 4: But I imagine if if if Spencer Anderson is starting,

548
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 4: then Calvin this week would be the other. I mean,

549
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 4: I don't think Pete would necessarily be that guy. And McCollum,

550
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 4: I would think just for the sake of it's a

551
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 4: long shot he gets hurt. But you know, if you're down,

552
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 4: that's your emergency center.

553
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:10,719
Speaker 3: It's kind of like, yeah, they don't sleep well at night.

554
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 4: I would imagine that the Calvin's the natural choice.

555
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 3: You know.

556
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 4: I didn't get that, you know, a coach or anything,

557
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 4: but Colvins said he's done, and he's comfortable doing it,

558
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 4: and he's done it for the Steelers and you know

559
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 4: occasionally in practice. So i'd imagine. I'd imagine full systems

560
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 4: go still for the jumbo and whether it gets a

561
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 4: target or not, I don't know.

562
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 2: I can catch.

563
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 3: Or anything.

564
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris, last one I've got for you, and this

565
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: is you know something that this is when Matt and

566
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 2: I like, you know, chatting with you, real reporter types

567
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 2: that are in the locker rooms you know, every day

568
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 2: and around those guys. Just a thirty thousand foot view,

569
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 2: your thoughts on the temperature of the locker room? Like

570
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 2: some pretty you use the word damning there just a

571
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 2: minute ago, you know, Cam, heyw're talking about there's not

572
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 2: enough fight on our side, you know, if we feel

573
00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 2: sorry for ourselves, it's gonna avalanche. You know, some some

574
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 2: very you know, direct and poignant quotes. What's the what's

575
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 2: kind of the temperature? What's kind of the gauge in

576
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 2: that locker room right now? Are they down on themselves?

577
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: Is it just a one off? Do they, you know,

578
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: seem like they have the fight to turn this thing around?

579
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: What just kind of angry are they?

580
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 4: Yeah?

581
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: Are they angry? Or they frustrated? Are they dejected and jaded?

582
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: What's kind of you know, again you the temperature in

583
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 2: that locker room of course Sunday night, and and what

584
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: you what you saw yesterday as well?

585
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's no I'll be with that question. It makes

586
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 4: just common human human sense that after a game versus

587
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 4: having you know, twenty four hours in that case, I

588
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 4: guess twelve or fourteen hours to digest, you're going to

589
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 4: be a little a little more raw emotion after a game.

590
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 4: So but even within that context and recognizing that that

591
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 4: that's going to happen after postgames wins or losses, the

592
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 4: emotions will be high er, the initial reaction will be different.

593
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 4: It was a stark difference because I thought Sunday night

594
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 4: they were pretty I mean, let's face it, the defense

595
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 4: was embarrassed. You know, the two games in a row, right,

596
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 4: I mean over especially the seven quarters. Some of the

597
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 4: stats if you break it down by quarter, which you don't,

598
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 4: butte the last seven quarters it was almost height henry

599
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 4: yards of offense they've allowed because that first quarter agains Cincinnati,

600
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,479
Speaker 4: they were so good and the Bengals didn't do anything.

601
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 4: And then the last three quarters of that game and

602
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 4: in the fourth in the whole game of course against

603
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 4: Green Bay was bad. And just the touchdowns and what

604
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 4: is It's what I broke into was eighteen possessions. There

605
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 4: only been four punts there's been all the rest have

606
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 4: either been touchdowns or field goal of tempts and then

607
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 4: there's some field goals to Packers did So it's been

608
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 4: pretty bad since the start the second quarter a week

609
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 4: and a half ago in Cincinnati.

610
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 3: So they were I think they're going on ten quarters

611
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 3: without creating a turnover to Yeah.

612
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 4: That makes that makes sense.

613
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 3: I think it's like the second quarter of the Browns game.

614
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 3: It's been a while.

615
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, there only been one sack the past seven quarters.

616
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 4: Even things like that. No, no, no, Now the Browns

617
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 4: obviously was a different story going back to that game.

618
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 4: But it but but I will say then yesterday, on Monday,

619
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 4: the day after the game, the practice there was not

620
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 4: a practice but the open locker room. I didn't get

621
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 4: that five at all. It was more will be okay

622
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 4: the secondary as much as I just even just referenced earlier,

623
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 4: how there's so many new faces this year and almost

624
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 4: a total makeover. Aside from you know, Joey and Shawn Elliott,

625
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 4: they've only been there two and three years respectively themselves.

626
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 4: I mean it's a that's a pretty confident that's a

627
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 4: prideful group, a confident group, a group that's accomplished a lot,

628
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 4: if you go, I mean, Chuck Hars's been part of

629
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 4: some good defenses. I mean Thornhill's just a guy who's

630
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 4: kind of a gregarious guy as it is, and a

631
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,719
Speaker 4: confident guy as it is. And I mean slaves don

632
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 4: a you know borderline. You know, we go get some

633
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 4: hall of fame voats probable make it, but you know

634
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 4: that type of guy. So they all the secondary you

635
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 4: see them kind of congregate a lot as a group,

636
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 4: a lot of those safeties and corners and everything, and

637
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 4: they were with that, and they seemed it was a

638
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 4: lot more upbeat on yesterday than I thought it would be.

639
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 4: You know, again, this is only fourteen hours or so,

640
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,239
Speaker 4: twelve hours whatever it was, thirteen hours after we've been

641
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 4: in the locker room and after sure to see them

642
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 4: at the on the south side. And so if you

643
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 4: would ask me this, you know, yesterday morning, Monday morning

644
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 4: or whatever, I would have been like, I don't know.

645
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 4: This team seems like it's it feels like it's you know,

646
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 4: cracking maybe the foundation in terms of their confidence. And

647
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 4: I don't say turning each other, but they definitely were,

648
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 4: you know, they're they're questioning kind of where they're at,

649
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Speaker 4: and but they sort of redeem themselves this passing. Now

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Speaker 4: they've better to do a lot of redeeming the challenge

651
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Speaker 4: they got coming up this week with the number one

652
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Speaker 4: offense in the league, though, so you know, but what

653
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Speaker 4: it's worth, they could turn a lot of things around.

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Speaker 4: But the Colts been doing it pretty much everybody you

655
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Speaker 4: know giving up three hundred and seventy four hundred yards

656
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Speaker 4: against them, It's pretty much just an average game for

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Speaker 4: them at this point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Buzz, tell your Penn State buddy Tyler Warren to

659
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Speaker 2: take it easy on us on Sunday, right, can you

660
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Speaker 2: do that for us?

661
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Speaker 4: All right? Well, maybe maybe the Steelers can have to

662
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Speaker 4: have have the more productive tight end on the field

663
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Speaker 4: comes Sunday. Well, we'll see if that can. I'm the

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Speaker 4: more productive Penn State tight ends.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 2: There you go. Now you're talking. Now you're talking. Chris

667
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Speaker 2: and Damski kind enough to join us here on a Tuesday. Buzz,

668
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Speaker 2: thank you for the time. Make sure you're checking out

669
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Speaker 2: all of his work in the trip and listening to

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Speaker 2: him and Tom on the Blitz every day. Take care, buddy,

671
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Speaker 2: and we'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 4: Talk to you guys later. Take care.

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Speaker 2: There, he goes Chris Adamski, Mars High School, Penn State, Nitney,

674
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Speaker 2: lyon and keep a lit on Tyler Warren for us.

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Speaker 2: All right, Buzz, Come on, Matt, we got to get

676
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Speaker 2: back into our final kind of Tuesday rewind observations when

677
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Speaker 2: we return on the other side, and something that Chris

678
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Speaker 2: said there that I want to expand upon as well.

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Speaker 2: We'll do all of that to close down the first

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Speaker 2: hour of the show. West Shooler, Matt Williamson, It's the

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Speaker 2: Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network,

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Speaker 2: your tunes.

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Final observations for you here, Matt, for our Tuesday rewind.

686
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Speaker 2: As we kind of put a final bow on our thoughts.

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Speaker 3: We gotta move on from this sucker.

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Speaker 2: We sure do, we sure doe and not well reference.

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Speaker 3: It, folks, obviously. Of course, of course we gotta move

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Speaker 3: on on to the cold.

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Speaker 2: My goodness, and that's not a very pretty picture in

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Speaker 2: its own right. We will we will certainly.

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Speaker 3: Do Tuesday morning. Yeah right.

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Speaker 2: You sent me some preliminary Matt stats and some numbers

695
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Speaker 2: and some findings this morning.

696
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Speaker 3: And the biggest portion of Matt's stats happens on Tuesday

697
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Speaker 3: mornings because all the games are in the books and

698
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Speaker 3: I can go look at where they rank in time

699
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Speaker 3: of possession and all the other basic stuff. Man, culture good.

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Speaker 2: I believe it that looking through some of the stuff

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Speaker 2: you sent me this morning, and I made may or

702
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Speaker 2: may not have out loud uttered holy bleep. Yeah, not

703
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Speaker 2: in a good way, not a good way, not a

704
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Speaker 2: good way. But we will. We will obviously starting tomorrow

705
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Speaker 2: and then of course Thursday and Friday deep dive into

706
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Speaker 2: those seven and one Indianapolis Colts. Goodness, just a juggernaut,

707
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Speaker 2: Tyler Warren, Jonathan Taylor, Danny Dimes, that offensive line, a

708
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Speaker 2: lot of weapons at wide receiver certainly, certainly, and you

709
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Speaker 2: know what, speaking of wide receivers, let's stay there. I

710
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Speaker 2: got two more things that I want to run by

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Speaker 2: you as it relates to the the Tuesday rewatch. The

712
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: Tuesday rewind for those unfamiliar, it's just a kind of

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Speaker 2: you get a chance to rewatch the game. We go

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Speaker 2: back and rewind some thoughts here in the first hour

715
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Speaker 2: on Tuesdays as we try and put a bow on

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Speaker 2: the Steelers previous game. Let's talk about wide receivers. Matt

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Speaker 2: Arrow pointing up for Roman Wilson.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited about that. It's it's been the linear progression

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Speaker 2: that we've been looking for in both his role and

721
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Speaker 2: his production. That's encouraged. I know, after a loss like that,

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Speaker 2: you don't like particularly on a Monday. You're not sitting

723
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: there harping on the positives. But I'm starting there are

724
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 2: some in every game. There are some in every game, certainly,

725
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Speaker 2: And I think Roman Wilson four catches seventy four yards

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Speaker 2: his first touchdown, eighteen point five average yards per catch,

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Speaker 2: five targets for him as well too. Yeah, Yeah, this

728
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Speaker 2: is we're starting to see the process of clearly they're

729
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Speaker 2: trusting him to take on a bigger role and he's

730
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Speaker 2: grabbing that opportunity and running with it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is something from Matt Stats is I

732
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Speaker 3: shouldn't look it up here so I get it right

733
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Speaker 3: because I did tweet this one, and it basically reflects

734
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Speaker 3: that they're trusting him more and more so. He ran

735
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Speaker 3: a route on fifty four percent of their drop back

736
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Speaker 3: last week, okay, and was targeted on about twenty four

737
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Speaker 3: percent of his routes okay, But he had not This

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Speaker 3: is two weeks in a row where he's been at

739
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Speaker 3: fifty four percent of It doesn't sound like a lot.

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Speaker 3: You got to think every drop back he's on the

741
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Speaker 3: field running a route for fifty four of them. Sure,

742
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Speaker 3: two weeks in a row, and he had never been

743
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Speaker 3: at forty percent or even forty every day every game

744
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 3: this week. So I mean it's it's back to back games.

745
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 3: It's enough proof that Okay, we gave you fifty four

746
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 3: percent the two games ago, we'll do it again. You know,

747
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 3: we weren't much what you did.

748
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Speaker 2: Gave you this much of the pie and you handled it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. I always remember, like Pete Carroll talking about

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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson whenever he was a rookie. You know, they

751
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Speaker 3: had traded for Flynn. He was going to be the start.

752
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Speaker 2: The night contract, Yeah right right, Green Bay.

753
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Speaker 3: And Wilson's this third round dude, and he kept saying,

754
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 3: we just keep putting more on Russ's plate, and he

755
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 3: keeps handling it. So that's what you do, you know,

756
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 3: doll up of mashed potatoes, like, okay, handle the easy stuff,

757
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 3: and now we put more, you know. And I think

758
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Speaker 3: Wilson is getting to that point.

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Speaker 2: I think so too, And that's inuraging.

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00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Another And I wondn't even call it negative. Matt with

762
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: the wide receiver room though that I want to discuss.

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00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: It's not a negative, but it's maybe just a little underwhelmed.

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Speaker 2: Need a little bit more from DK Metcalf. I know

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Speaker 2: he I want to preface this. He has not been bad.

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Speaker 2: He has not been a disappointment anything like that. He's

767
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: been good. He's just a couple of plays away from

768
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Speaker 2: being great, though.

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Speaker 3: I have a thousand percent agree. And I've had this

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Speaker 3: conversation yesterday with several other people, different outlets as a

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Speaker 3: Mark show. I did the show with Rob and Pursuda,

772
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Speaker 3: and we all kind of they all kind of brought

773
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Speaker 3: it up, and it's funny to me, but it's like,

774
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 3: because he's really close to being great, you know, like.

775
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Speaker 2: One play a game, one play a game goes an

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Speaker 2: opposite way exactly.

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Speaker 3: I mean, his force is felt. He is a I'd

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Speaker 3: make that trade ten out of ten times. We're all

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Speaker 3: happy he's a Steeler, yep, But what if you could

780
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Speaker 3: haul that one play that one in or don't let

781
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 3: Turner rip the ball out of here, out of your midst.

782
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 2: The interception in Cincinnati and then the broken up pass

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Speaker 2: on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Night, And there is a misnomer with him. And I

785
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 3: said this when they see when they traded it for him,

786
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Speaker 3: that people thought he was a direct replacement for Pickens.

787
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Speaker 3: In a lot of ways, he is, I mean, he's

788
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 3: being strong fast, you know, we know that, and.

789
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Speaker 2: He's way more consistent than George Pickens.

790
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Speaker 3: But he's not the catch point guy that George is.

791
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Speaker 3: He wins differently, he often runs past people. He's not

792
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Speaker 3: as good and few few if you are. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's what George. That's better than anyone in the world.

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00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 2: The one handed story falling backwards or even ten using.

795
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Speaker 3: Your big body to the shield guys away at the point,

796
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And it's never been a

797
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 3: special day. I'm not saying he's bad at it, but

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Speaker 3: some of these catch point things could have went the

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Speaker 3: other way and then you'd be like, man, we really

800
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Speaker 3: got something here, and you know you're in a lot

801
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Speaker 3: better shape.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred. I've loved the run after catch ability

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Speaker 2: that we've seen from him. That's been on display. You

804
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 2: saw it in New England, you saw it in Dublin,

805
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: you saw it against the Browns. That's a huge part

806
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 2: of his game and that's been huge for this offense.

807
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Speaker 2: But it's just some of those and that's that I wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: Even call him plus right right, yeah, yeah, but I

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Speaker 3: wouldn't even call them fifty fifty catches they're more like

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Speaker 3: sixty forty in his favor.

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Speaker 2: You know, just come down with one more of those

812
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 2: again and it's a completely different story. You're you're a thousand.

813
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Speaker 2: You're going from a B plus to like a valedictorian.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm not asking scronic to turn into an

815
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Speaker 3: A plus. We're talking about the B plus to turn

816
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 3: into you know what I mean, right, h Yeah, you know.

817
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 3: So I have a thousand percent agree and again happy

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Speaker 3: with them. But there were plays to be made that

819
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Speaker 3: you wish he would have. Yes, I guess is one

820
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 3: way of playing it. Yeah, you go to make all

821
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 3: those you know, no one else.

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Speaker 2: Last one for you, Matt for my Tuesday rewind. And

823
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Speaker 2: there's not much of a way to sugarcoat this one.

824
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Speaker 2: You and I are not the the hot take guys

825
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: come on here and call people idiots and call for

826
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Speaker 2: everybody's job or anything like that. But I don't know

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Speaker 2: how after what you were able to do on the

828
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Speaker 2: ground in the first half, I think you probably know

829
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Speaker 2: where I'm going with this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, with a nine point lead at halftime, where you're

832
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: getting the ball back out of.

833
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 3: The lockers, so you get the first possession too.

834
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Speaker 2: And you run the ball three times in the second half.

835
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Warren is one of your best players, and he's

836
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 3: doing great.

837
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Speaker 2: That first open you are up sixteen to seven. Yeah,

838
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 2: you've been controlling the game. You've been running the ball well,

839
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: eighty one yards rushing in the first half.

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00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're winning time of possession.

841
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: Didn't run the ball once on that opening drive of

842
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 2: the second half. I think they were all once.

843
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: Chris who's on tomorrow wrote an article about this, and

844
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 3: it was zero on the first drive. I think one

845
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 3: rushing attempt on the second drive, and maybe one on

846
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 3: the third drive because and he pointed those out because.

847
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Speaker 2: And then you're chasing the game.

848
00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's different. If it's throwing.

849
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Speaker 2: The title down nine at halftime, it's a different story.

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Speaker 3: I totally get it. But the game was very much

851
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 3: at hand. The running game was working. Warren's really really

852
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 3: good football player.

853
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Speaker 2: He averaged five point two yards per carry on the night.

854
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and all of a sudden, you get ten

855
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Speaker 3: minutes of time possession of the second half because you're

856
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Speaker 3: not running the football too.

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Speaker 2: I mean you set the tone with it right out

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Speaker 2: of the locker room.

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00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't understand that.

860
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: Eighty one rushing yards in the first half, just twelve

861
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Speaker 2: in the second half, and again you had a two

862
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Speaker 2: possession lead getting the football back. That's the real malpractice

863
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 2: part to me. I agree, it is the scenario of

864
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: the foot up that you had and what you've been

865
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 2: doing well all night. And again, as you mentioned Jalen,

866
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: other than Aaron Rodgers, I think Jalen Warren is the

867
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 2: most reliable you know what you're getting down in a

868
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 2: down out part of that offense.

869
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 3: Great, and he kind of has been since he's put

870
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 3: on a stealer uniform. He's never really been I don't

871
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 3: know about that.

872
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: One of the more underrated weapons in the National Football.

873
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 3: League one thousand percent. I mean again, never was I like,

874
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what you're getting from Warren. I mean

875
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 3: never ever. McDonald's no doubt.

876
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: I don't care if you're in Texas or Pennsylvania or Wisconsin.

877
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: McDonald's number one is Yeah. So there's two things. And

878
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 2: the coaching staff was far from perfect. The defense was

879
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: far Nobody was perfect in that game.

880
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 3: We know that. But there's two things that I really

881
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 3: can't explain away in any way, shape or form or understand.

882
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 3: That's one of them, especially early in the second half.

883
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: Of course, you know when you're the lead for a

884
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 3: lot of it. I mean Rob pointed us out. I

885
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 3: mean they Steers were winning after the third quarter.

886
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: Was playing the fourth quarter, they took the lead.

887
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 3: But but yeah, you're still in it deep into the game.

888
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 3: You know you're right there with these guys. And this

889
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 3: is two weeks in a row. For my second one

890
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 3: is this is two weeks in a row where herbig's

891
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 3: not seeing the field knife He's great. I mean, and

892
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 3: I know a lot of people have word like, I

893
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 3: know exactly what I'm getting every time.

894
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 2: A lot of people have said he was in the

895
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 2: doghouse after that personal foul penalty. I don't think it

896
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: can be that sim It can't be that cut and dry.

897
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 3: I can't believe that that would be enough. I mean,

898
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 3: he's got a pretty stellar career of being a model citizen,

899
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 3: great special team or do whatever you want coach.

900
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, in that moment, he's got to

901
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 2: keep his composure a little bit better too. But that

902
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 2: wasn't so much oligiously dumb. You hit the guy ten

903
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 2: yards out of it, But he's sticking up for his teammates.

904
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 2: Who's getting mauled by two packers or center field right.

905
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 3: And he's too good of a pass rusher to say,

906
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 3: we're not putting on. We're going to teach you a lesson, right,

907
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 3: Come on, man, no way.

908
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that he played what like thirty three percent of

909
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: the snaps thirty four to thirty five. That's not enough.

910
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: Be closer to sixty percent.

911
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 3: And I know that's a hard puzzle to build.

912
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: Too, easier easier said than done.

913
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: It absolutely is. But in the end, he's too good

914
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 3: to not play a lot. I don't care how you

915
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 3: get there. Not my job, right, My job is to

916
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 3: criticize you for not doing your job.

917
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 2: I'm the guy who's doing job. Who are you? You

918
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 2: must be the other guy. Yeah, So that was that

919
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 2: was kind of the one that I'd saved for last there,

920
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: and that to me is again all all these different things.

921
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: And I was happy to Mike Tomlin. I meant to

922
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: say this in the first hour before we go to break.

923
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 2: I want to make sure to bring this up. Mike

924
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: Tomlin opened his press conference talking about we got to

925
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 2: get sevens more than threes against teams. That's the first

926
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 2: thing he said.

927
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 3: Again, what happened that press conference.

928
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 2: Against teams against teams like that, if you're settling for

929
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: threes too often, it's gonna come back and bite you. Yeah,

930
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: that to me, you know, when we started the show yesterday,

931
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 2: that was one of the first things that I brought up.

932
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 2: It's easy to say in hindsight, and you were up

933
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: nine points at halftime.

934
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 3: But the other thing my halftime notes were touchdowns would

935
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 3: be nice. This could come bite you.

936
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 2: You knows as you and I are starting to. When

937
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 2: you have red paint, you paint the barn red. When

938
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 2: you have green paint, you paint the barn green. It's

939
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: abundantly clear that this offense needs to score points and

940
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 2: needs to do a better job of controlling the clock.

941
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they might have to carry the team for

942
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 3: a bit.

943
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: The first half of that is, yeah, you need to

944
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: find the end zone more than the golden toe of

945
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 2: Chris Boswell. But the other part of that is you

946
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: gotta run the football man, and you've been doing It'd

947
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 2: be one thing if you've been struggling to do it,

948
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 2: but you've been doing it effectively.

949
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 3: It's getting better and better.

950
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: It's getting better and better against really.

951
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 3: Good run defense.

952
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 2: That's gotta be your meat and potatoes.

953
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 3: A thousand percent, and again don't get away from it.

954
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: And it's very Unarthur Smith like to get away from

955
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 3: its surprising too. But now Tomlin is never gonna tell

956
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 3: us this stuff. And I did not go to his

957
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 3: press conference and I haven't yet. You know, as I

958
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 3: mentioned five times, I don't know whattee. But I think

959
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 3: he also needs to look himself in the mirror in

960
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 3: that regard too, and be like, if we got to

961
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 3: turn touchdown field goals in the touchdowns, you're probably gonna

962
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 3: to be more aggressive on four thousands. Sure, yeah, I

963
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 3: mean you.

964
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 2: Know what help you get there though? Is picking up

965
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: five yards on first down when you run the ball.

966
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 3: Right, I think you can see the path.

967
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 2: If it's third and four, third and five, and you go, okay,

968
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: we get three four yards here, we got fourth and short,

969
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 2: we're in great position to go for it as opposed

970
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 2: to it's s in nine, it's third and eight. Yeah.

971
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

972
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: It becomes much more manageable to get aggressive on fourth

973
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 2: down if you're setting yourself up for a more successful

974
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: opportunity when.

975
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 3: You do so. And that's something I mentioned yesterday too,

976
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 3: Like let's say it's third and one and you're in

977
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 3: field goal range or midfield or whatever, but deep down

978
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 3: you know you're going forward on fourth. If you don't

979
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 3: get it, take a shot, Yeah, Rogers the metcalf over

980
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 3: the top, you know, like, because I'm coming back and

981
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 3: I'm not going to settle for three still, you know,

982
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 3: I don't have to have to get my yard here.

983
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: Playing an action Maybe it hit Friar movie the same.

984
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of a lot of different

985
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 2: things there, and I do hope that we start to

986
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: see some of that Sunday against the Colts.

987
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 3: Because the red zone stuff's gotten a lot better too.

988
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 3: You're way better. Yeah. They only had three snaps from

989
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 3: in the red zones that game, only one possession.

990
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 2: It's not nearly enough. No, No, again, particularly against an

991
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 2: upper echelon team and an upper echelon offense like the

992
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: Green Bay Pack.

993
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 3: That's the thing. If you play the Browns, you're like, wow,

994
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 3: they probably aren't going to get the thirty five, but

995
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 3: you might have sortly in your defense, like most teams

996
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 3: are going to get the thirty five, let alone the Colts.

997
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 2: Specially leagues, especially some of these talented offenses you got

998
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: coming up. Colt's best offense in the league. Chargers they

999
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,479
Speaker 2: got Herbert, they got they got weapons. Even a team

1000
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: like Chicago can score some points that you're gonna have

1001
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: to see soon. Cincinnati you got to see again in

1002
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 2: a few weeks. We know that they they've got their issues,

1003
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: but they can score points. We saw that. It's uh, yeah,

1004
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 2: it's it's It's certainly something that I'll be keeping an

1005
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: eye on beginning Sunday against Indianapolis. That's an hour in

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