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Speaker 1: What's going on? Jets fans? Welcome to another edition of

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Speaker 1: the Official Jets Podcast, presented by Amazon Web Services. Dan

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Speaker 1: Grass and Greg Buttle hanging out with you this afternoon

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Speaker 1: and Greg always good to recoin ourselves. How are you, Oh,

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Speaker 1: Danny boy the pipes. I'm learning how to sing. Dan,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing else better to do. To sit around in

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Speaker 1: your own house with nothing else better to do. You

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Speaker 1: can't sing in the shower all day because your your

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Speaker 1: your skin gets messed up. Quarantine life two thousand twenty.

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Speaker 1: That's what we're living right now. But I mean, people

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Speaker 1: should know you have a singing background. We've talked about

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Speaker 1: it on our pre and post game shows. This was

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Speaker 1: something that was part of your histories and not Yes,

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Speaker 1: barbershop quartet was a big part of my history. And

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Speaker 1: I was in musicals throughout high school, so I had

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Speaker 1: a blast that was in the choir and all that stuff,

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Speaker 1: But the real fun was singing in a barbershop quartet.

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Speaker 1: And there was not one person I ever met in

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Speaker 1: the society, uh that was not a good person. And

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Speaker 1: he is not kidding folks. He has being honest. That's

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Speaker 1: what he did during his days at Penn State and

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Speaker 1: you would think that, you know, this big, fierce, intimidating

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Speaker 1: linebacker who went out to have a great career in

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Speaker 1: the NFL All American in college, but no, he does

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Speaker 1: have the Barbershop Quartet on the resume. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I heard that you were one of the guy the captains,

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Speaker 1: the driving force behind that group. Have you stayed in

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Speaker 1: touch with any of those guys today? Actually, uh, just

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Speaker 1: one of them. Uh my college roommate, Jim Rosecranz. Uh

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Speaker 1: he and I. You and I really got into it

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Speaker 1: because he liked to sing and I liked to sing.

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Speaker 1: But really what put us over the edge to say

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Speaker 1: we should join is that when we got there, we

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Speaker 1: met the guy that owned the beer distributorship and we

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Speaker 1: got free beer. So that was the best thing when

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Speaker 1: you're eighteen years older in college, free beer, the perks

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Speaker 1: of being in the barbershop quartet, and you played it

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Speaker 1: to your advantage certainly. But we continue quarantine life, of course,

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Speaker 1: with everything that we're going on around the world, the pandemic,

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Speaker 1: the coronavirus. So first off, I just want to see

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Speaker 1: how you're doing. You in the family, everybody holding up

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Speaker 1: well at the Buddle Estate, Well, there's always good and

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Speaker 1: bad when it comes to the quarantine. And uh, like

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Speaker 1: I get to know my wife better, she gets to

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Speaker 1: know me better, and that's the bad part. Anyway, You

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Speaker 1: you'll you'll learn how to get out of everybody's way

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Speaker 1: because you're on top of each other. You How big

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Speaker 1: can your house be if you're if you're a zillionaire

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Speaker 1: like the Grassive family is, there's a plenty of rooms

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Speaker 1: so you can hide in. But me, I'm in a

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Speaker 1: small I'm a fixed income now, so it's a hard thing. Well,

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Speaker 1: the funny thing about it is, and I was just

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Speaker 1: thinking about this. Not too long ago, you moved, you know,

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Speaker 1: you downsized a little bit because the kids were a

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Speaker 1: little bit older, you know, they left the nest and

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Speaker 1: that sort of thing. Now, if you were known then

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Speaker 1: that you would be in this lockdown situation for a

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Speaker 1: period of time, do you think you still would have

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Speaker 1: went ahead with a move? Absolutely, the best thing I've

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Speaker 1: ever done. I don't need you don't need a lot

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Speaker 1: that's that's most imagination. Think about this though, Can you

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Speaker 1: imagine a quarantine back in pre two thousand when there

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Speaker 1: was no internet. You're not allowed to go golf, you

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Speaker 1: can't go to church, you can't do anything, and you

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Speaker 1: have no internet. Oh my god, what would happen? I

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Speaker 1: couldn't imagine it. You know, it's like the dumb might

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Speaker 1: as well be the dark ages compared to what we

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Speaker 1: things could be worse. And you know, on a serious note,

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Speaker 1: the funny thing at it is, it's like we sit

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Speaker 1: here and look, everybody wishes we could resume our normal

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Speaker 1: But you know, the curve does seem to be flattening

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Speaker 1: the cool thing about it, Greg is that we, you know,

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Speaker 1: be heading in soon. Well, direction that the NFL is

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Speaker 1: going soon, of course, is the annual NFL Draft, which

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Speaker 1: thankfully we have despite everything we have going on in

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Speaker 1: our world right now, and that is gonna be next week,

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Speaker 1: and it's going to be a draft unlike ones we've

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Speaker 1: ever seen before. Everything is gonna be done virtual, much

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Speaker 1: like the world that we live in right now. And Greg,

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Speaker 1: I think it's no secret that when you think about

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Speaker 1: free agency is nice and it gets a lot of

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Speaker 1: foundation of any good football team is through the draft.

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Speaker 1: And I think that all Jet fans are a little

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Speaker 1: bit excited and eager to see what Joe Douglas has

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Speaker 1: the Jets football operations. Well, if the all season is

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Speaker 1: So I think the opportunity for Joe Douglas to uh

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Speaker 1: the draft. I think, in my personal opinion, what he

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Speaker 1: But I think any good football talent executive is going

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Speaker 1: these guys slotted regardless of position, and you're gonna take

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Speaker 1: the best player available here. And if that just so

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Speaker 1: could be wide receiver, could be corner, who knows. I

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Speaker 1: But you know, one thing I keep coming back to Greg,

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Speaker 1: You can always obviously trade up if you want to,

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Speaker 1: only makes your team better. It's not a reach to

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Speaker 1: how do you think that would have been complicated if

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Speaker 1: just another tool for them to use it. It has,

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Speaker 1: it has merit, but it's still just a tool. The

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Speaker 1: everything that coaches get used to. The coaches sit and

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Speaker 1: it's straws? Does he understand how I feel what my

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Speaker 1: that when you can't do anything together, you've got to

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Speaker 1: Adam Gates, the head coach of the Jets, is gonna

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Speaker 1: Draft finishes up, and that'll be from April to April.

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Speaker 1: Once again, the Jets with eight picks total and four

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Speaker 1: of them take place in the top eighties. So we'll

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Speaker 1: see what direction Joe Douglas his staff go here to

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Speaker 1: try to add some new helpers for this New York

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Speaker 1: Jets football team in two thousand twenty and beyond, Greg,

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Speaker 1: this was fun as always. Let's do it again soon,

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Speaker 1: my friend. Alright, so listen, I'm just gonna hold your

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Speaker 1: feet to the fire before we get off. Yeah, who

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Speaker 1: do you want? Not the player, but what type of

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Speaker 1: player do you want? The Jets draft in the first round.

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Speaker 1: I know it's cliche, and I don't want to come

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Speaker 1: I am a big believer in honor your board best

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Speaker 1: that's who you take, because in my opinion, you can

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Speaker 1: never have enough good football players, regardless of what position

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Speaker 1: they play. And that's what I think Joe Douglas and

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Speaker 1: his staff should do. When will do I might agree

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Speaker 1: with you, but I disagree with you. I know you

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Speaker 1: want your wide receiver. You want the wide receive. I

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Speaker 1: want that guy. I want that wide receiver. Man, let

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Speaker 1: me tell you something. You you can you want the

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Speaker 1: best wide receiver you can get. But me, that's what

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Speaker 1: I want. I mean, I can, I can build best

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Speaker 1: athletes behind the number one draft pick. But that number

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Speaker 1: one guy, he's got to produce for me. He's got

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Speaker 1: to produce points, he's got to produce playing time, he's

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Speaker 1: got to produce a lot, and he's got to have

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Speaker 1: great upside. That's all I'm saying. Last pro ball player

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Speaker 1: got to go all the way back to Keishawn Johnson,

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Speaker 1: who was taken first overall. Back in Greg. Stay safe.

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Speaker 1: We'll do this again soon, my friend, and enjoy the draft.

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Speaker 1: Yehah buddy for Greg Buttle. This is Dan Grassa. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for joining us on another installment of the Official Jets Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by Amazon Web Services. Be safe, everybody,