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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody. Thursday edition of The Clay

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show starts right now. I've got

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Speaker 1: a lot to talk to you about today. First off,

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Speaker 1: the update from the Nashville school shooter, which we'll get

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Speaker 1: into in a moment. It seems that there is now

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Speaker 1: a report at least Daily Mail with this headline that

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Speaker 1: the shooter was targeting the school's head pastor. We'll discuss

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Speaker 1: that in a few moments here. Still have not seen

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Speaker 1: the manifesto, still has not been released, which I disagree with.

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Speaker 1: I think people should be able to see what the

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Speaker 1: motivations and what the psychological derangement was based in for

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Speaker 1: this mass shooter. Yeah, I was just gonna say, Buck,

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Speaker 1: I was told it's going to be released by people

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Speaker 1: that might be one of the challenges associated with releasing it.

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Speaker 1: And let me just kind of explain what I mean

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Speaker 1: by that. If you are a crazy person writing a

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Speaker 1: I think there's some challenges in editing this thing so

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Speaker 1: that you know, I think when we think a lot

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Speaker 1: of times a manifesto, it's like you're taking targets at

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Speaker 1: you know, the world has decided that it's going to

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Speaker 1: But also there's parts in there where if there are

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Speaker 1: direct personal attacks on individuals, you have to figure out

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Speaker 1: how to parse and parcel that out, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: So I do think there's a little bit of a challenge,

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Speaker 1: as it would likely be the case with any mentally

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Speaker 1: that thing out there without increasing the pain that might

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Speaker 1: be involved in some of the people who are already victims,

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Speaker 1: if that makes sense. Since it's an interesting idea, if

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Speaker 1: it's going to be released eventually, I'm not really sure

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Speaker 1: what and I don't know that law enforcement is going

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Speaker 1: to be in a position. This is not national security

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Speaker 1: sensitive information, correct, so so redacting things isn't really in

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Speaker 1: their purview. And I am just I will recall that

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Speaker 1: at the Pulse nightclub shooting, if you remember, this was

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Speaker 1: the most egregious This is what a lot of us

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Speaker 1: think may be happening, right now to your point, by

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Speaker 1: the way, maybe that is what's going on. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: for a lot of us who have covered terrorists acts,

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Speaker 1: and think about Pulse Nightclub. They exed out or blacked

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Speaker 1: out things. You know, they remove things from the transcript

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Speaker 1: the FBI under the Obama administration, where the guy was like,

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Speaker 1: I pledge my loyalty too, they blanked it. Well, it

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Speaker 1: was the Abrahamic state. And then he says, and I'm

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Speaker 1: murdering all these people in the name of Allah, Like

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Speaker 1: we know what the blacked out lines were, but they

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Speaker 1: did it anyway, and everybody remembers how both we'rewelly in

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Speaker 1: and condescending and absurd that was. So I just feel

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Speaker 1: like there's not a lot of good faith that there

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Speaker 1: need to be redactions done to a manifesto that what

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Speaker 1: you're saying may be true. Again, we don't know, but

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Speaker 1: if that were the case, Clay law enforcements should say

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Speaker 1: there are security issues. There are you know, there are

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Speaker 1: people's home addresses, phone numbers, like we can't just put

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Speaker 1: hard for people to pass that. And then think, well,

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Speaker 1: the part of motive is that you know. Right now

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Speaker 1: law enforcement is stating. Well, and I understand one hundred

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Speaker 1: us why that Las Vegas shooter acted, right, I mean store,

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Speaker 1: a manifesto that it's like, this is why I did it?

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Speaker 1: Right that we know of, right, I mean that to

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Speaker 1: able to read this correct. You know, there are plenty

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Speaker 1: to be told. That is the fear right and buck.

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Speaker 1: Going back to Monday off air, I said, Hey, based

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Speaker 1: and also the more days that pass where it's not released,

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Speaker 1: the narrative right now that is predominating. That's why there's

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Speaker 1: up allowed in a situation like this, whatsoever. The people

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Speaker 1: have a right to know. To your point, if it

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Speaker 1: no question about it. When they were dacted all the

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Speaker 1: show has been going on. Well, it wouldn't that be

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Speaker 1: a fun article, Like actual deaths in Montana compared to

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Speaker 1: deaths on Yellowstone. More people have died on yostone the

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Speaker 1: show than I think have died if you know, if

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Speaker 1: from violence in Montana in the last twenty years would

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Speaker 1: be mine. So just putting that out there, I'm gonna say, Wyoming,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, you know, fifteen murders. That's about I mean,

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Speaker 1: so I actually have the per hundred thousand residents. Two

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Speaker 1: murders per hundred thousand residents in Wyoming is what they basically.

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Speaker 1: So they basically have. And by the way, that's not

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Speaker 1: even gun violence. That includes you know, domestic violence where

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Speaker 1: somebody you know, hits somebody else with a frying pan

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Speaker 1: or a stabs them with a knife or whatever baseball bat.

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Speaker 1: So you're looking at you know, a handful, you know,

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Speaker 1: you can count them on one hand in the whole state. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: you go down that the point of your folks, you

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Speaker 1: go down. Look at Idaho, look at Vermont, look at Wyoming,

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Speaker 1: look at Maine, look at you know, these are all

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Speaker 1: states where you have not only permissive gun laws, but

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Speaker 1: high levels of gun ownership. Yeah, and almost no gun violence.

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Speaker 1: By the way, this is why the Dershwitz and I

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Speaker 1: debated this on CNN like twenty fourteen, and this is

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Speaker 1: where the argument went because he said the same thing.

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Speaker 1: He's like, more guns means more people getting shot. I'm like, well, unfortunately, sir,

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Speaker 1: that is inaccurate. You know, it's trying to be respectful,

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Speaker 1: it's like, unfortunately, what you're saying is not true. That

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Speaker 1: data does not support this argument that they make. So

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Speaker 1: why do we have to listen to an argument that

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Speaker 1: is so easily refuted because it's based in emotion, it's

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Speaker 1: based on what people what democrats want to hear. And

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Speaker 1: what you actually find out when you look at the

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Speaker 1: real data is that people who are concealed carry permit

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Speaker 1: holders are as a population pretty much the most law

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Speaker 1: abiding Americans you will find anywhere, period. And that's across

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Speaker 1: all states. And that's not even just gun violence, that's

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Speaker 1: all laws. They're highly law abiding. Because one thing, if

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Speaker 1: you're a concealed carry permit holder, is you understand the

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Speaker 1: responsibility that you're carrying and the need to bend to

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Speaker 1: understand all the different laws that you come into contact with,

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Speaker 1: and you have to abide by as somebody who's going

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Speaker 1: to enjoy your Second Amendment rights. So this whole, the

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Speaker 1: whole argument they're having more guns equals more death. It's

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Speaker 1: just not true. It's just I talked buck and it's

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Speaker 1: kind of wild to think about. But I talked with

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Speaker 1: a guy Tuesday who said he had grown up in

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Speaker 1: a rural area and they had a shooting team at

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Speaker 1: his high school and he would bring his rifle to

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Speaker 1: school and leave it in his locker and then take

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Speaker 1: it out at the end of the day to go

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Speaker 1: be a member of the shooting team. I mean, just thinking.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so, in other words, we've had people carrying

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Speaker 1: guns into schools for decades, and up until Columbine, really

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Speaker 1: we never even had the idea that there would be

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Speaker 1: people getting shot in school. This is why, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's also a lot of sensitivity around this for Democrats,

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Speaker 1: because they're really taught that this is a moral crusade.

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Speaker 1: It's a bit like climate change for them. They just

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Speaker 1: have to be on the right side of the gun issue,

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Speaker 1: and then they're a good person and they get to

487
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Speaker 1: virtue signal endlessly about it, and they get to know

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Speaker 1: browbeat anybody else who won't go along with them as

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Speaker 1: a bad person. The notion of gun free zones, particularly

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Speaker 1: as it pertains to school, is an indefensibly absurd and

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Speaker 1: stupid policy that has probably led to more people being

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Speaker 1: shot on schools because anybody who's going to harm somebody,

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Speaker 1: it's the most straightforward thing imaginable. Anyone who plans to

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Speaker 1: shoot another human being on the grounds of a school

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Speaker 1: or you know, within one hundred feet of a school

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Speaker 1: doesn't care that it's a gun free zone, and we

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Speaker 1: all know that. So it does nothing. All it does,

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Speaker 1: Clay is possibly mean that somebody who brings a shotgun

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Speaker 1: and leaves it in their trunk and wants to go

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Speaker 1: shoot sporting clays or shoot beer cans or whatever after school,

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Speaker 1: adult or you know, an adult age you know, eighteen

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Speaker 1: year olds a student could go to prison. That's all

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Speaker 1: that it means. That's all that it does, and we

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Speaker 1: all know this. But they won't engage with the debate

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Speaker 1: as it actually is. Instead, they just shout look at

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Speaker 1: the data. I would want to ask Jamal Bob Bowman

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Speaker 1: as well. You're so worried about gun violence, what do

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Speaker 1: you think about the declining or the declinations of prosecutions

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Speaker 1: of convicted felons found with guns in Philadelphia? Fifty percent

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Speaker 1: of them no charge whatsoever felon in possession of a handgun.

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Speaker 1: I think also this is worth hitting two. You pointed

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Speaker 1: it out for a while. If we eliminated every mass

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Speaker 1: shooting in America, ninety seven percent of murders would still happen. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so all of the attention comes, you know, running in

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Speaker 1: every time we have a mass shooting, and they're certainly

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Speaker 1: awful and they provoke emotional reactions. But if we eliminated

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Speaker 1: every mass shooting in American ninety seven percent of murders

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Speaker 1: would still occur. And by the way, nobody even wants

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Speaker 1: to talk about who the murderers are. Think about that.

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Speaker 1: How often do you see like murder really broken down?

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Speaker 1: There's about what one percent of the American population, Young

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Speaker 1: black men sixteen to forty commit over half of all murders.

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Speaker 1: Jamal Bowman, want to have that conversation your boy TikTok,

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Speaker 1: that'd be an interesting conversation. Right, we want to eliminate murders.

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Speaker 1: Let's go where murders are actually committed and do whatever

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Speaker 1: we can to stop them from happening. Instead, all these

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Speaker 1: cities are letting murderers back out on the street to

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Speaker 1: commit violent crime because they're worried about racial equity. Result

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Speaker 1: is more dead people. I just wish we could all

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Speaker 1: an idea as to why what we're saying isn't true,

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Speaker 1: I would love to hear it. But we actually look

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Speaker 1: this is breaking news, my friends because it just came

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Speaker 1: out the last few minutes, or the Wall Street Journal.

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Speaker 1: Although it's not new information that it's based on, it

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Speaker 1: do the breaking news. You gotta come up with a

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Speaker 1: cool sound. We do need a sounder, by the way,

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Speaker 1: that's yea to us for breaking news, Like I don't mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what the sound should be,

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Speaker 1: or I think if the full like yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think there's something like that. So the Trump grand jury,

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Speaker 1: we're just talking about Trump. By the way, this pull

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Speaker 1: it's amazing, like it's it's neck and neck. DeSantis will

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Speaker 1: go up a little, Trump will go up a little.

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Speaker 1: It's up at Clay and Buck dot com. We retweeted

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Speaker 1: it from the Clay and Buck Twitter account. Um, so

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Speaker 1: we got a couple of ways you can weigh in

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Speaker 1: on this poll. We'll do a consolidated you know, all

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Speaker 1: in well, we'll average the percentage from Twitter and the

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Speaker 1: percentage from Clay and Buck dot com and see what

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Speaker 1: we end up getting for this, but you know as

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Speaker 1: the overall number. But it's see, it is very very

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Speaker 1: close right now, very tight. Um. So with that in mind,

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Speaker 1: we're just talking about Trump. So we've been told that

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Speaker 1: for the next month there's not gonna be anything new

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Speaker 1: with the grand jury in New York. But here's the

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Speaker 1: Wallstreet Journal is reporting that Trump grand jury digs into

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Speaker 1: hush money paid to a second woman. Now, and this

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Speaker 1: is money paid. I remember that this was part of

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Speaker 1: the allegations back in the day, money paid to former

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Speaker 1: Playboy model Karen MacDougall Clay. What is going on here, man,

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Speaker 1: with these allegations the legal ease here, what's happening? If

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Speaker 1: I remember, these are two different stories now, if I

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Speaker 1: remember the way that they were paid, meaning obviously they're

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Speaker 1: two different women. Karen McDougall was a former Playboy model

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Speaker 1: and she was supposedly paid one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: But my recollection, I'm scrolling through this article to see

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Speaker 1: if I'm correct, my recollection is that yeah, here it is.

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Speaker 1: She signed a contract with the National Inquirer in August

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Speaker 1: of twenty sixteen. This is the so called catching release idea.

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Speaker 1: UM where they will pay someone. The National Inquirer would

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Speaker 1: would pay someone for their story and then basically kill

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Speaker 1: it like they wouldn't publish it. Is that called catch

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Speaker 1: and kill? Yeah? Yeah, sorry, catching kill? Uh? And so

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Speaker 1: that was done by the National Inquirer. And remember do

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Speaker 1: you remember the name of the National Inquirer owner? It's

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Speaker 1: kind of amazing. Oh wait, wait wait it's a great name,

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Speaker 1: but I don't remember what is it? David Pecker? Um,

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Speaker 1: there you go, David Pecker, who also got involved in

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Speaker 1: ironically enough, given his last name a Jeff Bezos. Uh

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Speaker 1: you know sexual affair story if you remember that. Uh.

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Speaker 1: So they've been bringing in David Pecker, the former chief

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Speaker 1: executive of this and they may be arguing about how

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Speaker 1: exactly that payment occurred. Because just for those of you

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Speaker 1: out there that care about this, and again it's going

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Speaker 1: on as a grand jury, so I want to make

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Speaker 1: sure we get this right. The hundred and thirty thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars went to Stormy Daniels via Cohen, right, Trump's attorney,

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Speaker 1: and that's where they tried to argue that this was

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Speaker 1: an FEC violation Federal Election Commission. I'm not sure how

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Speaker 1: the money if it was ever repaid to the National Inquirer,

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Speaker 1: or whether the National Inquirer handled that hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars things to hold on. Here's the detail. The

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Speaker 1: publisher agreed to transfer the rights to McDougal's story to

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Speaker 1: a company controlled by Michael Cohen, a consultant, then issued

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Speaker 1: an invoice to Owen, and they repaid that as well.

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Speaker 1: So basically, this whole story situation is Trump may have,

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Speaker 1: he denies it, may have slept with these women, and

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Speaker 1: in order to keep them from making those allegations public,

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Speaker 1: they paid them to keep silent the irony here, and

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Speaker 1: nobody talks about this at all. Buck Trump paid hundreds

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Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars in theory for these women's stories

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Speaker 1: to never go public, got them to sign DA's. Then

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Speaker 1: the women just told their story anyway, and nobody ever

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Speaker 1: talks about that. Like Stormy Daniels got one hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars to keep her mouth shut, she signed

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Speaker 1: So it's like, well, hold on a minute, what was

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Speaker 1: I think the same thing happened now with Karen McDougall,

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Speaker 1: although I don't think she's been as outspoken certainly as

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Speaker 1: Stormy Daniels has. So here we see this again. This

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Speaker 1: is the first time the Wall Street Journal reporting this,

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Speaker 1: so it's a very solid source. This is the first

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Speaker 1: time we've seen this brought up in the grand jury

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Speaker 1: that's currently underway, or that has been underway. It's on

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Speaker 1: a one month hiatus. Now. It's not clear to me

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Speaker 1: exactly what this is really gonna do you know, whether

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Speaker 1: they bring the charge or not, I don't think it's related.

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Speaker 1: It makes a difference, I'm sorry. Not the charge. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the charge, whether the indictment comes down or not, doesn't

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Speaker 1: seem to really hinge on the McDougall component of this.

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Speaker 1: But I guess maybe they're trying to say there were

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Speaker 1: some kind of a pattern or practice here something like that.

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Speaker 1: That's my guest. But here's the issue, and this is

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Speaker 1: why I keep focusing on the legal versus the factual. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so just a quick refresher. Juries decide issues of fact,

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Speaker 1: Judges decide issues of law. To me, this is a

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Speaker 1: case based on law. The Statute of Limitations has now

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Speaker 1: run on this case. So I don't understand how they're

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Speaker 1: going to somehow get it in under a statute of limitations.

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Speaker 1: But also, this is a basically a federal crime to

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Speaker 1: the extent that it's a crime at all that they

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Speaker 1: are trying to massage into a state crime. But Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump wasn't running for statewide office. He was running for

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Speaker 1: national office. And so I think this case is going

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Speaker 1: to get tossed on a legal basis regardless of what

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Speaker 1: the factual underpinnings of it are. Does that make sense? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course all of this is insane. I mean this

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Speaker 1: is really you know, Democrats that like like like Bragg

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Speaker 1: think they're crusading heroes for justice or something by doing this,

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Speaker 1: And this is crazy happening. Buck. If Trump had lived

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Speaker 1: in Florida from the get go, because this is this

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Speaker 1: is the exposure here is Trump is a Republican candidate

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Speaker 1: who happened to live in the state of New York.

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Speaker 1: You me, wherever you live, you have to worry about

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Speaker 1: federal law, but also state law. I don't think that

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Speaker 1: we should be allowing a state political prosecution. And you

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Speaker 1: saw these numbers. I think as well, Buck, something like

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Speaker 1: two thirds of Americans, including a high percentage of Democrats,

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Speaker 1: believe that if Trump is charged, it's going to be

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Speaker 1: because of politics, not because of its being a crime,

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Speaker 1: which is why we ultimately think this redounds to Trump's

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Speaker 1: benefit if he has charged in this case. It couldn't

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Speaker 1: be more obvious, right if you're if you're not able

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Speaker 1: to get somebody on Russia collusion after a special counsel,

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Speaker 1: and you're not able to get them on all these

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Speaker 1: other things, and you go with this, I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is this is pathetic, these kinds of charges. No, who

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Speaker 1: is the victim in this process? Dude? That's you know,

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Speaker 1: usually you can take these these macro concerns into account

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Speaker 1: as you're supposed to as a prosecutor. If no one

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Speaker 1: is harmed, if the state is not harmed, if a

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Speaker 1: person is not harmed, how is anyone being criminally charged? Like,

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Speaker 1: that you have to, you know, you have to police

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Speaker 1: the breaking of certain norms, Like there's no norm here,

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Speaker 1: there's no process. The whole thing is crazy. It's a

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Speaker 1: great point. And also you can't even argue that this

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Speaker 1: is some And again I'm not trying to take a

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Speaker 1: shot at Trump here. But the perception of Trump is

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Speaker 1: not one where you would be like, oh, I can't

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Speaker 1: believe Trump slept with a playboy model. Right. If this

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Speaker 1: were George W. Bush or Obama and they have this, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're really virtuous people. That is a big part of

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Speaker 1: their personal political brands. You can see how that kind

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Speaker 1: of accusation might have rattled people who were big George W.

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Speaker 1: Bush or Barack Obama supporters. But Buck, let's be honest.

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Speaker 1: When the news broke about Bill Clinton hooking up with

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Speaker 1: see that, and it doesn't impact Bill Clinton's political brand

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Speaker 1: to me. Also to your point building on who is

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Speaker 1: who is the victim here, I don't even think it

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Speaker 1: changes the way that lots of people think about Trump.

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Speaker 1: I don't think people thought, oh, I'm voting for Trump

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Speaker 1: because he's the greatest husband who's ever existed on the planet.

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Speaker 1: I think even Trump would laugh at that idea. Right,

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Speaker 1: he's been married three times, whatever it is. I don't

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Speaker 1: and I think that's where people were with Clinton and Trump.

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Speaker 1: So I don't even see this as some sort of

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Speaker 1: debilitating revelation that would change the over wouldn't have affected

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Speaker 1: make a quick note for you. We put up at

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Speaker 1: Clay and Buck dot Com a pole because we want

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Speaker 1: to know where all of you are on this Ron

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Speaker 1: descantist Donald Trump, who is your God? And we have

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Speaker 1: Twitter account which we are retweeted. You can vote there

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Speaker 1: you know what that snapshot of this audience's opinion is

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Speaker 1: at this stage of the primary and of the presidential contest.

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Speaker 1: And as promise, right now we have our friend Shannon

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Speaker 1: Bream with us now Fox News Chief Supreme Court Legal Analyst.

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Speaker 1: She has a new book out, The Love Stories of

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Speaker 1: the Bible, speak Biblical lessons on romance, friendship, and faith.

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Speaker 1: It is coming out later this week. Shannon, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for being with us. Lay, it is our

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Speaker 1: buxcuse me, Buck and eventually Clay. It's always great to

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Speaker 1: be here, all right, yep, yep, where we're both here.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you being with us. So tell us, Shannon, the

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Speaker 1: love stories of the book. I just kind of want

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Speaker 1: to just tell us about this love stories of the Patible.

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Speaker 1: So listen, a lot of times people are like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what the heck could the Bible say about romance and

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Speaker 1: marriage and all that kind of stuff. But you know,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty steamy in portions, and it's not like God's

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Speaker 1: looking around like what are they doing down there? Like

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Speaker 1: he invented us. He knows that we're going to have

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Speaker 1: this desire to connect with other people, to be in relationships.

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Speaker 1: So the book is yes about the romances and complicated

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Speaker 1: and sometimes messy relationships, but also friendships because I think

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Speaker 1: that's really so much of the fabric of our lives

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Speaker 1: that holds us together. The idea of community, but also

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Speaker 1: this came in to love your neighbor as yourself, which

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Speaker 1: is probably one of the hardest at times because there

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Speaker 1: aren't any outs or exceptions and Frankly, I think we

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Speaker 1: could use a little bit more of that right now, Shannon,

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Speaker 1: do you think your husband is listening to you on

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Speaker 1: this program right now or watching opening day of Major

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Speaker 1: League Baseball? You know what I would say, if he

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Speaker 1: was not in the air on an airplane right now,

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Speaker 1: he would be listening to well, he'd be watching baseball.

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Speaker 1: I don't Braves are winning. Braves are winning right now.

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Speaker 1: You're you are married into I don't know if people

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Speaker 1: know this. You'r Shannon Bream. Your brother. Sorry, Your brother

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Speaker 1: in law is Sid Breem, who is one of the

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Speaker 1: home plate. For everybody out there who remembers that play,

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Speaker 1: so I want everybody out there to know that since

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Speaker 1: it's Opening day Major League Baseball. So, yes, you are

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Speaker 1: killing it on Fox News Sunday. But you also have

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Speaker 1: a deep understanding of what has gone on at the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court and also our legal system in general. When

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Speaker 1: you see what is going on in New York City

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Speaker 1: with Alvin Bragg. And by the way, I'd encourage everybody

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Speaker 1: we get ready for certainly Mother's Day coming up and

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Speaker 1: everything else. When you see what's going on with Alvin

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Speaker 1: Bragg and New York City and now there's a one

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Speaker 1: month pause, and everybody seemed to think, Oh, Trump's gonna

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Speaker 1: get charged, Trump's gonna get charged. What do you think's

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Speaker 1: went on there? How would you read it to? You?

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Speaker 1: Leaves well as a fellow lawyer, my friend, I love

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Speaker 1: hearing what you think about's going on here too, because

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Speaker 1: my question is because grand juries are supposed to be secret,

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Speaker 1: that is for a lot of good reasons. It allows

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Speaker 1: their legal system to work in a certain way. But

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Speaker 1: when Robert Costello, the attorney, came out who said, listen,

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Speaker 1: I was hearing stuff that was coming out. I didn't

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Speaker 1: think it was accurate. He says. At one point he

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Speaker 1: that as it may. Robert Costello went and testified before

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Speaker 1: of more than three hundred relevant emails. This is Costello

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Speaker 1: making his case. There's a lot more to the story,

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Speaker 1: and I think that there's pressure from the right and

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Speaker 1: moves forward with this, because I think it's fair to

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Speaker 1: say it's probably, from what we know about these cases

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Speaker 1: being done in secret, the weakest against the former president,

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Speaker 1: and you know, to bring it this far, to try

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Speaker 1: to get an indictment but not get a conviction, it's

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Speaker 1: only going to lend credence to president argument that this

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Speaker 1: is nothing but political, no doubt, and building on that,

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Speaker 1: I agree one hundred percent with what you said Europe.

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Speaker 1: In the DC area, I'm sure you saw that there

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court justices and the protests outside of their homes.

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Speaker 1: Those protests violate both federal and state law, arguably Maryland

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Speaker 1: where some of those justices reside. What did you think

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Speaker 1: really hard to understand because, gosh, think about it was

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Speaker 1: immediately puts Yeah, I think it's it's easy to argue

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Speaker 1: not yet an official candidate. I think that's part of

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Speaker 1: But listen, what did the President say at Seapack a

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Speaker 1: no way, and it'll probably help my numbers. He has

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Speaker 1: the more he can leverage this to say, look, this

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Speaker 1: think are only going to help make his argument for him.

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Speaker 1: So he was right about that. Does that Flip wants

927
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Speaker 1: de Santist gets in those numbers? I don't know. Interesting

928
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Speaker 1: that we had pulling out this week. That shows, yes,

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938
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941
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942
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943
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Speaker 1: bloodied you're gonna have to limp into a general where

944
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Speaker 1: you can't win. Shannon building on that, when you look

945
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946
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947
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Speaker 1: able to balance everything? Because Buck and I talk about this,

948
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Speaker 1: every time we say something positive about Trump, the Trump

949
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Speaker 1: people are like, yeah, every time we say something positive

950
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Speaker 1: about the Santis. Back and forth. It's a tough balancing act.

951
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Speaker 1: This feels like such an eight hundred pound guerrilla battle,

952
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Speaker 1: right that both sides are constantly looking in maybe a

953
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957
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Speaker 1: You can do the same show and have half the

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