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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schraeger is a production of the

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Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up, everybody, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Season with Peter Schrager. We're here in week eleven.

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Speaker 1: We had a bit of a bye week last week.

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Speaker 1: I figured it was election week. Well, we'll let you

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Speaker 1: listen to that stuff and we'll take the week off.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't this great of a slate that we have

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Speaker 1: in week eleven. And as we look towards these games,

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Speaker 1: I am counting on my hands four different awesome matchups

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Speaker 1: like Chiefs versus Bills is amazing to have in any week,

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Speaker 1: and it's Week eleven where the stakes couldn't be higher.

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Speaker 1: And yet I don't even know if that's the game

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Speaker 1: of the week because on Thursday night you've got Eagles

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Speaker 1: commanders first time they're playing this season. And then you

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Speaker 1: also have a Steelers Ravens game, where the Steelers schedule

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Speaker 1: is so interesting they haven't even played a divisional and

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Speaker 1: we're entering mid November. The Steelers still have you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously they got to play the Ravens this weekend. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna play Bengals twice, Browns twice, and the Ravens again,

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Speaker 1: and the other one is Sunday Night one that I think

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Speaker 1: it's really interesting over the last couple of weeks because

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Speaker 1: of the way the teams have performed. The Bengals offense

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Speaker 1: has exploded, and though they lost last Thursday, there's still

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Speaker 1: four and six and they're going up against a very good,

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Speaker 1: very hot Chargers team on Sunday Night and again that

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine is going to be a ratings bonanza

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Speaker 1: But you better believe I'll be watching. They'll be good.

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Speaker 1: I have so many thoughts about this week. Where do

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Speaker 1: I begin. Let's start with a little unpacking of what

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Speaker 1: happened today in Chicago, and I put this on social media.

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Speaker 1: I said a little bit on Good Morning Football, but

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Speaker 1: this is my podcast. Could talk a little bit more

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Speaker 1: about it. I'm not angry about it. It happens. Teams

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Speaker 1: don't go through the process and always have it all

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Speaker 1: work out. But I look at my friend and a

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Speaker 1: guy who I thought was I don't know, I thought

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Speaker 1: he was not as highly coveted as he should have

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Speaker 1: been over this hiring cycle in Cliff Kingsbury, and I

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Speaker 1: look at his path of how things went in January,

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Speaker 1: so he could work with Caleb Williams and and you know,

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Speaker 1: I have an opportunity to go back to his roots

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Speaker 1: Cliff made it known that he was ready to come

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Speaker 1: back to the NFL if there was an appropriate offer

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Speaker 1: or taker. He thought he was going to Vegas. They

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Speaker 1: brought him in for an interview. He hit it off

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Speaker 1: with Antonio Pears. They brought him back to Vegas. He

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Speaker 1: hit it off with Tom to LESCo, the GM And

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Speaker 1: from what I am told, and it's not directly from Cliff,

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Speaker 1: but this is pretty well known. The years on the contract,

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Speaker 1: there was a miscommunication as to what was expected and offered.

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Speaker 1: And standard standard deals are three year deals for coordinators.

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Speaker 1: Now I don't know what Antonio Pierce's deal is. You

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Speaker 1: certainly wouldn't want a coordinator's job to be longer than

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Speaker 1: so Cliff did not take that job. Earlier in the process,

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Speaker 1: They were obviously taking Caleb Williams first. Overall, they knew

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Speaker 1: proven at the very least, if you don't think he's

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Speaker 1: a good head coach, it's fine, But through Mahomes and

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Speaker 1: Luke Getzy was fired before Halloween. The Raiders passed on

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Speaker 1: Shane Waldron, who was in Seattle last year, was the

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Speaker 1: Shane Waldron's been fired as of today, and that's ten

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Speaker 1: That's the first year of a contract as well. Both

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Speaker 1: the remainder of their contracts. They'll be paid in full.

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Speaker 1: They'll be taken care of. They'll be making millions and

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Speaker 1: It all works out. Everyone's happy, and it's great, and

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Speaker 1: This one, to me was wild that the Bears didn't

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Speaker 1: So those teams go back to the drawing boards. Cliff

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Speaker 1: What's my point. It's sliding doors, it's ships in the night,

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Speaker 1: it's all this stuff. But like those decisions, those decisions

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Speaker 1: You could say I'm a Kingsbury fanboy. You could say

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Speaker 1: I watch the league, and I think Cliff and Caleb

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Speaker 1: It was a bad call. It was a horrendous call.

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Speaker 1: November eight? What do we got? I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: And yet they still have all these games to play,

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Speaker 1: and I'm fascinated to see how it plays out. Rogers

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Speaker 1: They still have Rogers under contract, they still have all

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Speaker 1: And how the next few weeks play out, and as

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Speaker 1: Rogers is gonna pick and pluck you. They're gonna beat

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Speaker 3: I want to I want to say, I think it's

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Speaker 3: week twelve and onward, so where there's a little more

427
00:21:36,786 --> 00:21:39,306
Speaker 3: leeway on NBC, It's it's not a ton but you know,

428
00:21:39,346 --> 00:21:41,586
Speaker 3: we kind of talk about early in late season flex.

429
00:21:41,586 --> 00:21:43,506
Speaker 3: But you know, we focus at the end of the

430
00:21:43,586 --> 00:21:46,386
Speaker 3: year kind of right before and Thanksgiving through it's that

431
00:21:46,426 --> 00:21:48,986
Speaker 3: playoff run and let's really make sure those games that

432
00:21:49,066 --> 00:21:53,586
Speaker 3: matter have that opportunity. So you know, Sunday nights early

433
00:21:53,626 --> 00:21:56,426
Speaker 3: in the season, we make those flex decisions on two

434
00:21:56,466 --> 00:21:59,426
Speaker 3: weeks notice. That's why you knew about this two weeks notice. Okay,

435
00:21:59,786 --> 00:22:02,986
Speaker 3: Bengals Chargers game. Same for Monday Night. All Monday Night

436
00:22:03,026 --> 00:22:05,306
Speaker 3: games are on two weeks notice. As we get later

437
00:22:05,386 --> 00:22:07,866
Speaker 3: into the season forwards, the last couple weeks of the season,

438
00:22:07,906 --> 00:22:10,586
Speaker 3: we can do Sunday Night on one week notice, but

439
00:22:10,626 --> 00:22:13,066
Speaker 3: we do you know, we're very cognizant of the impact

440
00:22:13,066 --> 00:22:15,626
Speaker 3: on fans and so we don't take that lightly. And

441
00:22:15,706 --> 00:22:18,026
Speaker 3: so yes, for Monday Night game to flex, it would

442
00:22:18,066 --> 00:22:20,506
Speaker 3: be done two weeks out. We did have one last year.

443
00:22:20,546 --> 00:22:23,786
Speaker 3: We got out of that Casey New England game right

444
00:22:23,786 --> 00:22:28,146
Speaker 3: and we went into Eagles Seahawks. So you know, again,

445
00:22:28,266 --> 00:22:30,706
Speaker 3: not something that we're gonna do on a whim, but

446
00:22:30,826 --> 00:22:33,066
Speaker 3: you know, at the right place is let's ship those

447
00:22:33,106 --> 00:22:35,666
Speaker 3: games around and do them when it makes sense.

448
00:22:36,186 --> 00:22:39,586
Speaker 1: Okay, So the Monday night schedule Houston at Dallas you're

449
00:22:39,586 --> 00:22:41,666
Speaker 1: not flexing out of that. It's Dallas. Houston's is still

450
00:22:41,666 --> 00:22:45,146
Speaker 1: relevant obviously. Baltimore at Chargers, you're not flexing out of that. Yeah,

451
00:22:45,266 --> 00:22:48,266
Speaker 1: Cleveland at Denver, Denver, let's watch air playoff team. The

452
00:22:48,306 --> 00:22:51,626
Speaker 1: one that gets interesting is this is this week fourteen,

453
00:22:52,106 --> 00:22:56,586
Speaker 1: December ninth, Bengals at Cowboys, where both teams could be

454
00:22:56,586 --> 00:22:57,906
Speaker 1: out of it. One of the teams could be out

455
00:22:57,906 --> 00:22:59,626
Speaker 1: of it. We don't have Dak Prescott anymore. And the

456
00:22:59,626 --> 00:23:03,306
Speaker 1: debate is would they ever flex out of a Disney

457
00:23:03,786 --> 00:23:06,666
Speaker 1: ESPN ABC Cowboys game. I'll put you to the put

458
00:23:06,706 --> 00:23:08,386
Speaker 1: the screws to you on this one. I think the

459
00:23:08,426 --> 00:23:11,466
Speaker 1: brand does matter a little bit for these companies, right.

460
00:23:12,346 --> 00:23:14,666
Speaker 3: Yeah, Look a couple things. First of all, right, you

461
00:23:14,706 --> 00:23:17,386
Speaker 3: know new for ESPN was the ability to get a

462
00:23:17,386 --> 00:23:20,106
Speaker 3: couple of teams twice a year over the last few years,

463
00:23:20,386 --> 00:23:22,186
Speaker 3: again part of the new deal. So they got, you know,

464
00:23:22,546 --> 00:23:25,506
Speaker 3: no surprise to two Chiefs games, two Cowboys games. These

465
00:23:25,546 --> 00:23:29,186
Speaker 3: mean these games mean a ton to them. You know,

466
00:23:29,586 --> 00:23:31,906
Speaker 3: we never say never, And look, I think from our

467
00:23:31,946 --> 00:23:34,506
Speaker 3: point of view, the Bengals are still right there in it.

468
00:23:34,586 --> 00:23:37,186
Speaker 3: The AFC could be in for a crazy finish we're

469
00:23:37,226 --> 00:23:39,226
Speaker 3: talking this morning about after last night. You know, the

470
00:23:39,266 --> 00:23:41,266
Speaker 3: Dolphins are still in it, right, you know, any any

471
00:23:41,586 --> 00:23:44,746
Speaker 3: turn of events, so you know, we don't think about

472
00:23:44,746 --> 00:23:47,746
Speaker 3: that game. Just ride the Bengals. You don't know, you

473
00:23:47,786 --> 00:23:49,906
Speaker 3: know where the Cowboys going to be in two three weeks.

474
00:23:49,906 --> 00:23:52,226
Speaker 3: You know they're not that far out of it, yes,

475
00:23:52,466 --> 00:23:55,986
Speaker 3: injuries and everything else, so you know, we're not looking

476
00:23:56,026 --> 00:23:58,146
Speaker 3: at that game. And again generally, we're always going to

477
00:23:58,186 --> 00:24:00,346
Speaker 3: look at the games and you know, what are the positives,

478
00:24:00,346 --> 00:24:03,586
Speaker 3: what are the reasons to stay? But you know, as

479
00:24:03,586 --> 00:24:05,626
Speaker 3: you mentioned right, you know that the Cowboys games are

480
00:24:05,706 --> 00:24:08,466
Speaker 3: something that whenever they show up on those schedules, are

481
00:24:08,586 --> 00:24:09,466
Speaker 3: are pretty meaningful.

482
00:24:10,106 --> 00:24:12,266
Speaker 1: Okay, So then we didn't get any last year, and

483
00:24:12,306 --> 00:24:14,586
Speaker 1: there was a big hubbub over it in the media

484
00:24:14,866 --> 00:24:18,746
Speaker 1: and a lot of players speaking their minds about Thursday

485
00:24:18,826 --> 00:24:21,106
Speaker 1: night games being flex and how how could they do

486
00:24:21,146 --> 00:24:22,666
Speaker 1: that at such a money grabbing and then you you

487
00:24:22,666 --> 00:24:25,586
Speaker 1: didn't even utilize it last year. That's a big difference.

488
00:24:25,626 --> 00:24:27,106
Speaker 1: I think when you think you have a game on

489
00:24:27,146 --> 00:24:28,546
Speaker 1: a Sunday and you're like, no, actually you have a

490
00:24:28,546 --> 00:24:32,466
Speaker 1: game on a Thursday, are you guys a little bit more? Oh,

491
00:24:32,506 --> 00:24:34,586
Speaker 1: I don't know, it has to be a terrible matchup

492
00:24:34,586 --> 00:24:35,626
Speaker 1: for you to even consider that.

493
00:24:36,626 --> 00:24:39,666
Speaker 3: A couple of things here and again to your point, right, so,

494
00:24:39,786 --> 00:24:44,186
Speaker 3: going from Sunday to a Monday certainly impactful. Going from

495
00:24:44,226 --> 00:24:47,266
Speaker 3: a Thursday to a Sunday, when you know, kind of

496
00:24:47,426 --> 00:24:50,346
Speaker 3: weekday to a weekend. We again we recognized that, and

497
00:24:50,906 --> 00:24:53,386
Speaker 3: you know, getting to Thursday Night Flex was a was

498
00:24:53,426 --> 00:24:56,946
Speaker 3: a you know, pretty detailed conversation, and you know, to

499
00:24:56,986 --> 00:24:58,466
Speaker 3: the point you made at the top, you know, kind

500
00:24:58,466 --> 00:25:00,626
Speaker 3: of what are the factors and the rules around it,

501
00:25:00,666 --> 00:25:04,946
Speaker 3: Thursday Night flex is even more complicated and even more

502
00:25:05,146 --> 00:25:07,946
Speaker 3: not taking it lightly. So couple of things. One as

503
00:25:08,026 --> 00:25:10,266
Speaker 3: part of kind of the agreement to do this, and

504
00:25:10,586 --> 00:25:13,466
Speaker 3: it's completely new and it came in last year. So

505
00:25:14,066 --> 00:25:16,546
Speaker 3: two years ago we didn't even have Monday Night flex.

506
00:25:16,946 --> 00:25:19,426
Speaker 3: Last year we added Monday night flex by contract, by

507
00:25:19,466 --> 00:25:23,226
Speaker 3: Thursday Night Flex by kind of discussion and you know,

508
00:25:23,346 --> 00:25:26,146
Speaker 3: basically the rule kind of the approaches we'd have to

509
00:25:26,186 --> 00:25:30,226
Speaker 3: do that four weeks out. So give your four the other.

510
00:25:30,066 --> 00:25:34,546
Speaker 1: Ones out four weeks. Okay, that's very interesting.

511
00:25:34,106 --> 00:25:36,586
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, but the other piece to really keep

512
00:25:36,586 --> 00:25:40,226
Speaker 3: in mind is, you know, Thursday nights are very you know,

513
00:25:40,266 --> 00:25:42,746
Speaker 3: obviously limited. There's a lot of rules. It used to be,

514
00:25:42,866 --> 00:25:44,746
Speaker 3: you know, no one could play more than one short

515
00:25:44,746 --> 00:25:47,826
Speaker 3: week Thursday. We've modified that. We got to a place

516
00:25:47,826 --> 00:25:50,266
Speaker 3: where you can play, you can play two short week Thursdays,

517
00:25:50,266 --> 00:25:52,706
Speaker 3: and the teams have you know, really adapted to that,

518
00:25:53,226 --> 00:25:55,906
Speaker 3: but no more than two. And one of those things

519
00:25:55,946 --> 00:25:58,426
Speaker 3: is you're not going to play two road Thursdays. So

520
00:25:58,506 --> 00:26:00,786
Speaker 3: once you factor all that in, and you know, if

521
00:26:00,786 --> 00:26:02,626
Speaker 3: you looked at a game on a Thursday night to

522
00:26:02,866 --> 00:26:05,866
Speaker 3: ask yourself, could we you know, would the NFL flex

523
00:26:05,906 --> 00:26:08,346
Speaker 3: that game? You have to layer in all these other

524
00:26:08,426 --> 00:26:10,466
Speaker 3: factors that even the game you want to get to,

525
00:26:10,546 --> 00:26:13,026
Speaker 3: have those teams already played one or both of them

526
00:26:13,066 --> 00:26:16,346
Speaker 3: played there two thursdays, Has one of them already played

527
00:26:16,386 --> 00:26:19,066
Speaker 3: a road Thursday. There's a lot of you know, kind

528
00:26:19,066 --> 00:26:22,746
Speaker 3: of limiting factors in there. So you know, again, don't

529
00:26:22,746 --> 00:26:24,986
Speaker 3: take any flex decision lightly, but a Thursday one is

530
00:26:25,346 --> 00:26:26,346
Speaker 3: even more complicated.

531
00:26:26,426 --> 00:26:28,706
Speaker 1: Well, I'm looking at the Thursday night schedule, obviously that's

532
00:26:28,706 --> 00:26:31,106
Speaker 1: a beauty. This week, Washington at Philadelphia might be the

533
00:26:31,146 --> 00:26:33,626
Speaker 1: game of the week in the NFC YE Pittsburgh at

534
00:26:33,626 --> 00:26:36,146
Speaker 1: Cleveland's a divisional battle with Pittsburgh could be either seven

535
00:26:36,186 --> 00:26:37,786
Speaker 1: and three or eight and two. You're not changing that.

536
00:26:38,346 --> 00:26:40,706
Speaker 1: Raiders at Chiefs. Raiders beat the Chiefs last year on

537
00:26:40,786 --> 00:26:43,906
Speaker 1: Christmas in Arrowhead, so you're not changing that. Hackers at

538
00:26:43,946 --> 00:26:46,746
Speaker 1: Lions is awesome. Rams at Niners is one of the

539
00:26:46,786 --> 00:26:50,746
Speaker 1: great rivalries in the league. Cleveland at Cincinnati is a

540
00:26:50,786 --> 00:26:53,266
Speaker 1: little ugly, and it could be ugly since izs, But like,

541
00:26:53,306 --> 00:26:55,226
Speaker 1: I don't know, four weeks out, you would call Joe

542
00:26:55,266 --> 00:26:58,826
Speaker 1: Burrow's team the last week of the season in what

543
00:26:59,826 --> 00:27:01,746
Speaker 1: looks like could be a dog will be one to

544
00:27:01,786 --> 00:27:04,986
Speaker 1: Seattle at Chicago, but you still have Caleb Williams in

545
00:27:05,026 --> 00:27:07,266
Speaker 1: that game, and Seattle might be in the playoff, right, Like.

546
00:27:07,226 --> 00:27:10,986
Speaker 3: Both are right, That's right, And that's how we're always

547
00:27:11,026 --> 00:27:11,626
Speaker 3: going to look at it.

548
00:27:11,706 --> 00:27:11,786
Speaker 1: Right.

549
00:27:11,866 --> 00:27:14,746
Speaker 3: We're gonna be mindful of what's coming down the road,

550
00:27:14,826 --> 00:27:16,506
Speaker 3: but we're also going to be you know, we believe

551
00:27:16,546 --> 00:27:18,306
Speaker 3: in all our teams that we're going to be optimistic.

552
00:27:18,386 --> 00:27:21,026
Speaker 3: And so I don't think anybody's sitting here saying like, yeah,

553
00:27:21,026 --> 00:27:24,106
Speaker 3: we're circling any one of these games on any night

554
00:27:24,146 --> 00:27:25,906
Speaker 3: of the week is like, yeah, we we have to

555
00:27:26,026 --> 00:27:28,226
Speaker 3: you know, death definitively flex out of anything.

556
00:27:28,266 --> 00:27:31,426
Speaker 1: At that point, the Jets got a lot of primetime games,

557
00:27:31,426 --> 00:27:33,706
Speaker 1: and now in hindsight, everyone's like, ah, we had too many.

558
00:27:33,746 --> 00:27:35,346
Speaker 1: We fell forward again. It was a second year in

559
00:27:35,346 --> 00:27:36,946
Speaker 1: a row. But like, is that a team that you

560
00:27:36,946 --> 00:27:39,226
Speaker 1: would ever flex out of? I feel like when they're good,

561
00:27:39,306 --> 00:27:41,186
Speaker 1: it's it's when they're fun to watch, and then like

562
00:27:41,226 --> 00:27:43,386
Speaker 1: if they're bad, like there are people that like watching them.

563
00:27:43,386 --> 00:27:46,106
Speaker 1: I'm looking at these here. You've got all these different

564
00:27:46,146 --> 00:27:48,546
Speaker 1: primetime games, but they've already a lot of them have

565
00:27:48,586 --> 00:27:51,586
Speaker 1: been played. You played five primetime games in the twenty ten,

566
00:27:51,706 --> 00:27:54,346
Speaker 1: twenty eleven, and twenty three season. This year they got

567
00:27:54,346 --> 00:27:58,186
Speaker 1: a record high six, Like the Jets. When you came

568
00:27:58,186 --> 00:28:01,146
Speaker 1: into this thing, obviously you thought a better season was ahead.

569
00:28:01,226 --> 00:28:03,106
Speaker 1: But even when they're.

570
00:28:02,946 --> 00:28:05,586
Speaker 3: We listened to your your scouting reports.

571
00:28:06,066 --> 00:28:11,626
Speaker 1: I trusting, But even when they're bad, their theater, right

572
00:28:11,746 --> 00:28:12,586
Speaker 1: or people just own that.

573
00:28:13,346 --> 00:28:17,026
Speaker 3: No, Look, I put it yourself in our position right

574
00:28:17,146 --> 00:28:20,626
Speaker 3: when for going into the twenty three season, all the

575
00:28:20,666 --> 00:28:24,026
Speaker 3: excitement about Aaron coming to the Jets, and they had

576
00:28:24,066 --> 00:28:26,226
Speaker 3: great opponents, right, if you go back and look, you know,

577
00:28:26,306 --> 00:28:29,746
Speaker 3: fantastic opponents, and even you know, three plays in and

578
00:28:29,786 --> 00:28:32,986
Speaker 3: he's out for the year. They still got great viewership

579
00:28:33,026 --> 00:28:35,866
Speaker 3: and that team, you know, was there. So when when

580
00:28:35,906 --> 00:28:38,786
Speaker 3: we look at this year, you know, it's Aaron Rodgers,

581
00:28:38,786 --> 00:28:40,906
Speaker 3: it's the Jets. You know, how are you going to

582
00:28:40,946 --> 00:28:42,986
Speaker 3: look at that? How are you going to approach it?

583
00:28:43,026 --> 00:28:45,906
Speaker 3: They still have strong opponents the division. You know, we

584
00:28:45,946 --> 00:28:48,666
Speaker 3: expected it to be competitive, and I think we went

585
00:28:48,706 --> 00:28:51,946
Speaker 3: into it saying, you know, there there's just an opportunity,

586
00:28:51,986 --> 00:28:54,986
Speaker 3: and you're not gonna kind of forego that opportunity. And

587
00:28:55,226 --> 00:28:57,226
Speaker 3: that's the way we looked at it. And yeah, you know,

588
00:28:57,266 --> 00:28:59,946
Speaker 3: we flexed out of that game for this current week.

589
00:29:00,066 --> 00:29:03,306
Speaker 3: But you know, overall, the way we approached it in May,

590
00:29:03,866 --> 00:29:05,666
Speaker 3: I think we had to and when we listened to

591
00:29:06,106 --> 00:29:08,146
Speaker 3: the who believe in the Jets, and when the Jets

592
00:29:08,146 --> 00:29:10,866
Speaker 3: are good, it's it's fun and and that's a big thing,

593
00:29:10,946 --> 00:29:13,546
Speaker 3: you know, and attracts a lot of attention Aaron Rodgers

594
00:29:13,626 --> 00:29:16,266
Speaker 3: or any other quarterback. I think, you know, when when

595
00:29:16,266 --> 00:29:18,626
Speaker 3: the Jets and and the story around them and everything else,

596
00:29:18,626 --> 00:29:20,226
Speaker 3: and there was a lot of optimism there.

597
00:29:20,666 --> 00:29:23,306
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they won their two Thursday night games on

598
00:29:23,346 --> 00:29:25,946
Speaker 1: Amazon and Primetime, and they lost the two Monday night

599
00:29:25,946 --> 00:29:27,826
Speaker 1: games they lost the Niners. Those of the Bills they

600
00:29:27,826 --> 00:29:29,986
Speaker 1: have two others? Are those am I missing one? Did

601
00:29:29,986 --> 00:29:31,906
Speaker 1: they play Sunday night yet? Or are those two?

602
00:29:33,386 --> 00:29:35,426
Speaker 3: Well? I think we just we flexed the Sunday night game.

603
00:29:35,466 --> 00:29:38,306
Speaker 1: Okay, so there's probably one more as the season.

604
00:29:38,066 --> 00:29:38,666
Speaker 3: Somewhere out there.

605
00:29:38,746 --> 00:29:42,706
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so then we have a flex here. Is

606
00:29:42,706 --> 00:29:46,066
Speaker 1: there any personal gratification when like those games that you

607
00:29:46,106 --> 00:29:49,066
Speaker 1: flex into on primetime like actually end up being better

608
00:29:49,106 --> 00:29:52,386
Speaker 1: games and more competitive, And to me, it's like, all right,

609
00:29:52,506 --> 00:29:54,186
Speaker 1: if we're gonna go through all this trouble, it better

610
00:29:54,226 --> 00:29:54,986
Speaker 1: actually work out.

611
00:29:56,386 --> 00:29:58,626
Speaker 3: Sure. I mean, look, in general, I think, you know,

612
00:29:58,706 --> 00:30:00,666
Speaker 3: we love to kind of you know, when I when

613
00:30:00,706 --> 00:30:04,226
Speaker 3: a game like this past Sunday, What a great fun game,

614
00:30:04,306 --> 00:30:07,426
Speaker 3: and I left my hotel in UNI at halftime, and

615
00:30:07,586 --> 00:30:09,506
Speaker 3: you know, the Texans were dominating by the time I

616
00:30:09,506 --> 00:30:11,226
Speaker 3: got through security. I pulled it up on my phone

617
00:30:11,266 --> 00:30:13,146
Speaker 3: and I was seeing in the end. So yeah, we

618
00:30:13,466 --> 00:30:15,466
Speaker 3: love that. Look, when it comes down to it, ultimately,

619
00:30:15,466 --> 00:30:17,586
Speaker 3: we're fans too, right, We we love to see great

620
00:30:17,586 --> 00:30:20,306
Speaker 3: football and things like that. So whether it's a you know,

621
00:30:20,826 --> 00:30:23,746
Speaker 3: kind of Lions Texans that felt like such a cool

622
00:30:23,826 --> 00:30:26,786
Speaker 3: game last May and two teams on the rise and

623
00:30:26,826 --> 00:30:28,866
Speaker 3: you get that great game, or yes, if you flex

624
00:30:28,906 --> 00:30:31,266
Speaker 3: into a game and it really delivers and what you

625
00:30:31,266 --> 00:30:33,746
Speaker 3: hope for sure, you feel good about that. But you know,

626
00:30:34,026 --> 00:30:35,746
Speaker 3: things that are way out of our control. But we

627
00:30:35,786 --> 00:30:37,786
Speaker 3: try to be smart, we try to make decisions. And

628
00:30:37,986 --> 00:30:39,786
Speaker 3: like I said, we're fans too, So what do our

629
00:30:39,866 --> 00:30:41,386
Speaker 3: fans want to see? That's what we want to do.

630
00:30:41,826 --> 00:30:44,386
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is the rules of the divisional matchup? Because

631
00:30:44,386 --> 00:30:45,746
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of cool in viewers at home

632
00:30:45,826 --> 00:30:48,906
Speaker 1: and listeners at home might know. So CBS, we'll get

633
00:30:48,946 --> 00:30:53,546
Speaker 1: at least one of every AFC divisional matchup, meaning they're

634
00:30:53,586 --> 00:30:55,946
Speaker 1: going to at least get a Jets, Bills, They're going

635
00:30:56,026 --> 00:30:58,826
Speaker 1: to at least get the Colts, Titans, whatever it is.

636
00:30:59,106 --> 00:31:01,666
Speaker 1: And then and Fox on the NFC side, so you'll

637
00:31:01,706 --> 00:31:06,666
Speaker 1: never see you know, Niners Rams on primetime twice, or

638
00:31:06,666 --> 00:31:09,706
Speaker 1: you'll never see Cowboys Eagles on primetime twice. Fox is

639
00:31:09,746 --> 00:31:13,826
Speaker 1: always guaranteed at least one of the divisional matchups.

640
00:31:13,946 --> 00:31:16,986
Speaker 3: Right, that's how we go into it. Scheduling, Right, I

641
00:31:16,986 --> 00:31:18,986
Speaker 3: think there's been a lot of talk about kind of

642
00:31:18,986 --> 00:31:23,466
Speaker 3: in the new thing, you got Chiefs at Niners on Fox. Right,

643
00:31:23,586 --> 00:31:27,346
Speaker 3: kind of a classic? You know, huge AFC is the

644
00:31:27,426 --> 00:31:29,866
Speaker 3: road team game that would have been the centerpiece.

645
00:31:29,386 --> 00:31:33,026
Speaker 1: Of a CBS game when the NFC team is on

646
00:31:33,066 --> 00:31:33,786
Speaker 1: the road at AFC.

647
00:31:33,986 --> 00:31:37,426
Speaker 3: Yes, that's right, and so we have that flexibility. You know,

648
00:31:37,506 --> 00:31:40,946
Speaker 3: the CBS is going to get X number of Chiefs games,

649
00:31:40,986 --> 00:31:43,626
Speaker 3: but it doesn't have to be just because they're the

650
00:31:43,746 --> 00:31:46,386
Speaker 3: road team, and we can do something cool like that,

651
00:31:46,706 --> 00:31:50,106
Speaker 3: or Eagles at Cowboys on CBS this past weekend. We

652
00:31:50,106 --> 00:31:53,306
Speaker 3: can do that too. But both Fox and CBS, it's

653
00:31:53,386 --> 00:31:55,866
Speaker 3: very important still to be the identity that we are

654
00:31:55,906 --> 00:31:58,626
Speaker 3: the network of the NFC and the network of the AFC.

655
00:31:58,826 --> 00:32:00,866
Speaker 3: And so one of the ways they do that is

656
00:32:01,586 --> 00:32:03,906
Speaker 3: every one of those divisional matchups, at least one of

657
00:32:03,906 --> 00:32:05,306
Speaker 3: them is going to be on our network, and that

658
00:32:05,386 --> 00:32:06,266
Speaker 3: was very important to them.

659
00:32:06,426 --> 00:32:08,706
Speaker 1: Okay, so then sorry for the thirty questions. You know,

660
00:32:08,746 --> 00:32:12,506
Speaker 1: I love this stuff. So Cowboys Eagles gets the big window.

661
00:32:12,546 --> 00:32:14,746
Speaker 1: Obviously we didn't know DAK would be out on CBS,

662
00:32:14,746 --> 00:32:18,426
Speaker 1: but that means, no matter what, the next Cowboys Eagles

663
00:32:18,426 --> 00:32:20,146
Speaker 1: game will not be on prime time because Fox has

664
00:32:20,186 --> 00:32:20,946
Speaker 1: to get one of those.

665
00:32:21,026 --> 00:32:23,866
Speaker 3: Right, That's right. And that's I think it's week seventeen

666
00:32:23,906 --> 00:32:27,466
Speaker 3: maybe cool, yep. And those are you know, some of

667
00:32:27,466 --> 00:32:30,506
Speaker 3: those huge divisional matchups or some of the first pieces

668
00:32:30,546 --> 00:32:33,106
Speaker 3: on the proverbial chessboard, and we look at those things.

669
00:32:33,546 --> 00:32:35,786
Speaker 3: And then when you have a division like the NFC

670
00:32:35,826 --> 00:32:38,346
Speaker 3: North this year, you know, it's really cool when almost

671
00:32:38,426 --> 00:32:42,466
Speaker 3: every combination of those games are pretty interesting. Right now, Yeah,

672
00:32:42,546 --> 00:32:42,826
Speaker 3: we have.

673
00:32:42,786 --> 00:32:46,146
Speaker 1: A real rarity this weekend in the four o'clock window,

674
00:32:46,186 --> 00:32:48,626
Speaker 1: if we want to get in the weeds. CBS has

675
00:32:48,746 --> 00:32:51,426
Speaker 1: just one game and they're sending their pregame show, which

676
00:32:51,426 --> 00:32:55,586
Speaker 1: by the way, is on at twelve pm, four hours

677
00:32:55,626 --> 00:32:58,186
Speaker 1: before kickoff, which I think is a major commitment. Like

678
00:32:58,786 --> 00:33:01,906
Speaker 1: a lot of times you watch you know, Fox's big

679
00:33:01,986 --> 00:33:04,146
Speaker 1: noon kickoff, it's because it's right into the game. Or

680
00:33:04,186 --> 00:33:06,746
Speaker 1: college game day is one where they have to actually

681
00:33:06,826 --> 00:33:09,666
Speaker 1: wait till the kickoff. But you got CBS is sending

682
00:33:09,706 --> 00:33:14,506
Speaker 1: their pregame show to Buffalo to Orchard Park. I still

683
00:33:14,506 --> 00:33:17,666
Speaker 1: call it rich Stadium. That's very old. But yes, they'll

684
00:33:17,706 --> 00:33:20,546
Speaker 1: be there and it's the only game on CBS in

685
00:33:20,626 --> 00:33:22,306
Speaker 1: the four o'clock window. Did they have to work that

686
00:33:22,346 --> 00:33:24,706
Speaker 1: out with you guys? Did they negotiate with you with that.

687
00:33:24,866 --> 00:33:27,466
Speaker 1: Is that because of the flex situation? I think it's

688
00:33:27,466 --> 00:33:29,746
Speaker 1: still very rare to have a lone game on a

689
00:33:29,786 --> 00:33:31,586
Speaker 1: network in a window. Correct.

690
00:33:32,306 --> 00:33:34,186
Speaker 3: Yeah, First of all, let's let's just talk about for

691
00:33:34,226 --> 00:33:39,266
Speaker 3: a second, a noon pregame show outside the stadium. You

692
00:33:40,026 --> 00:33:41,586
Speaker 3: think they're gonna have a pretty good crowd out there.

693
00:33:41,626 --> 00:33:43,626
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, and we don't see that anymore.

694
00:33:43,826 --> 00:33:46,106
Speaker 1: I'm a historian on this stuff. Fox used to for

695
00:33:46,186 --> 00:33:49,626
Speaker 1: one year. For one year, Fox I think it was seven,

696
00:33:50,186 --> 00:33:53,546
Speaker 1: sent the Fox NFL Sunday pregame show to home sites

697
00:33:53,586 --> 00:33:56,426
Speaker 1: of games and they traveled and Joe Buck actually hosted

698
00:33:56,426 --> 00:33:59,346
Speaker 1: the show and then went in the booth and would

699
00:33:59,346 --> 00:34:02,346
Speaker 1: be the announcer. That feels like a distant memory the NFL.

700
00:34:02,746 --> 00:34:04,546
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was the original Kirk Curbsheet.

701
00:34:04,626 --> 00:34:06,986
Speaker 1: He was before the Private Jets and all that. He

702
00:34:07,026 --> 00:34:10,346
Speaker 1: was there just walking up to the booth. Yeah. But honestly,

703
00:34:10,706 --> 00:34:12,906
Speaker 1: I think this is pretty rare that they're doing this.

704
00:34:13,706 --> 00:34:15,626
Speaker 1: Was Was it always known this was the only game

705
00:34:15,666 --> 00:34:17,346
Speaker 1: in the window or is that because of the flex

706
00:34:17,386 --> 00:34:17,946
Speaker 1: of Bengals.

707
00:34:18,226 --> 00:34:20,866
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, you're you're hitting a spot on right as

708
00:34:20,866 --> 00:34:24,586
Speaker 3: scheduled back in May Cincinnati Chargers was in that window

709
00:34:24,666 --> 00:34:28,226
Speaker 3: as well. So it's it's you know, it's it's somewhere

710
00:34:28,266 --> 00:34:31,546
Speaker 3: between uncommon and rare. It happens, and you look, if

711
00:34:31,546 --> 00:34:33,746
Speaker 3: there's any game that can stand alone right now at

712
00:34:33,786 --> 00:34:36,106
Speaker 3: four twenty five and you know, talk about do you

713
00:34:36,146 --> 00:34:38,386
Speaker 3: feel good or excited. Let's hope the game lives up

714
00:34:38,386 --> 00:34:40,186
Speaker 3: to it. But nine to zero Chiefs going to eight

715
00:34:40,226 --> 00:34:43,506
Speaker 3: and two Buffalo and feeling like this might determine who's

716
00:34:43,506 --> 00:34:46,906
Speaker 3: hosting that game at the end of January. Everything we

717
00:34:46,946 --> 00:34:48,786
Speaker 3: could hope for. We look at a game like this

718
00:34:48,866 --> 00:34:50,466
Speaker 3: and try to figure out where do you play it.

719
00:34:50,746 --> 00:34:52,226
Speaker 3: You don't want to play it too early, you don't

720
00:34:52,226 --> 00:34:54,666
Speaker 3: want to play it too late. Week eleven feels perfect

721
00:34:54,746 --> 00:34:57,546
Speaker 3: right now, so we'll you know, we hope it delivers.

722
00:34:57,546 --> 00:35:00,826
Speaker 3: But so you know that it stands alone. You know,

723
00:35:01,026 --> 00:35:04,026
Speaker 3: it happens. Sometimes it's absolutely a function of the flex

724
00:35:04,066 --> 00:35:07,946
Speaker 3: this particular week, and you know, let's hope it lives

725
00:35:08,026 --> 00:35:08,546
Speaker 3: up to all that.

726
00:35:09,466 --> 00:35:12,706
Speaker 1: I had a really, really like good conversation with Kyle

727
00:35:12,746 --> 00:35:15,706
Speaker 1: Brandt offline when we were in the commercial break today

728
00:35:15,706 --> 00:35:20,146
Speaker 1: of like Keon Coleman, Amari Cooper, Dalton, Kincaid All these

729
00:35:20,186 --> 00:35:22,186
Speaker 1: guys are banged up, and then they've got the bye

730
00:35:22,186 --> 00:35:25,306
Speaker 1: week next week. It's the classic do you do you

731
00:35:25,386 --> 00:35:27,026
Speaker 1: arrest them or do you go I'm like for us

732
00:35:27,026 --> 00:35:29,546
Speaker 1: to be talking that way about a week eleven game

733
00:35:29,706 --> 00:35:32,146
Speaker 1: as if it's you know, so, I think it does

734
00:35:32,186 --> 00:35:33,626
Speaker 1: have those high stakes though.

735
00:35:33,986 --> 00:35:36,946
Speaker 3: Absolutely right. I mean, I think you can very clearly

736
00:35:37,146 --> 00:35:39,426
Speaker 3: kind of say, you know, if you whoever wins this game.

737
00:35:39,466 --> 00:35:42,186
Speaker 3: Obviously it's two game separation right now, but a long

738
00:35:42,226 --> 00:35:44,546
Speaker 3: way to go. But just is that the tiebreaker for

739
00:35:44,586 --> 00:35:47,306
Speaker 3: the number one seed. That's that's very much in play

740
00:35:48,026 --> 00:35:48,426
Speaker 3: all right.

741
00:35:48,506 --> 00:35:51,666
Speaker 1: Before we wrap, I want to go through just the

742
00:35:51,706 --> 00:35:54,946
Speaker 1: holiday times schedule because there's a couple of little wrinkles here.

743
00:35:54,986 --> 00:35:58,026
Speaker 1: We've got three Thanksgiving games, we have a Black Friday game,

744
00:35:58,666 --> 00:36:01,146
Speaker 1: then we have a Christmas Day game, but I think

745
00:36:01,186 --> 00:36:03,346
Speaker 1: the week before Christmas is like those teams have to

746
00:36:03,346 --> 00:36:07,586
Speaker 1: play on Saturdays. Let's first go through Thanksgiving slate. What

747
00:36:07,626 --> 00:36:09,546
Speaker 1: are the three games on Thanksgiving? And do you guys

748
00:36:09,586 --> 00:36:11,946
Speaker 1: put a lot of weight into those matchups before the

749
00:36:11,986 --> 00:36:14,066
Speaker 1: season or is that just hey, put a divisional matchup

750
00:36:14,146 --> 00:36:15,946
Speaker 1: against one of the teams then will take you know,

751
00:36:15,986 --> 00:36:17,586
Speaker 1: we'll take our shots at the other spots.

752
00:36:17,986 --> 00:36:20,386
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, Thanksgiving is a really interesting one for us

753
00:36:20,466 --> 00:36:23,266
Speaker 3: where you know, I think we've seen right just the

754
00:36:23,306 --> 00:36:26,546
Speaker 3: way it is such a part of the cultural fabric,

755
00:36:26,666 --> 00:36:29,346
Speaker 3: right those games, you know, the the Detroit and then

756
00:36:29,426 --> 00:36:33,746
Speaker 3: love now with just how exciting and fun the Lions are.

757
00:36:33,786 --> 00:36:36,306
Speaker 3: But even you know, over the years, right that game,

758
00:36:36,426 --> 00:36:39,106
Speaker 3: you know, twenty five thirty million viewers, and the Cowboys

759
00:36:39,106 --> 00:36:41,706
Speaker 3: game thirty five forty million viewers. So there's a lot

760
00:36:41,746 --> 00:36:43,986
Speaker 3: of schools of thought there of like, you know, could

761
00:36:44,026 --> 00:36:45,866
Speaker 3: you put any game in there? Should we put a

762
00:36:45,906 --> 00:36:48,066
Speaker 3: huge game in there? And we debate that a lot,

763
00:36:48,146 --> 00:36:50,506
Speaker 3: and our network partners have a lot of feelings about it.

764
00:36:50,546 --> 00:36:54,026
Speaker 3: But you know, Chicago and Detroit Giants in Dallas, you know,

765
00:36:54,266 --> 00:36:57,826
Speaker 3: classic Division games, and you know, you just feel like

766
00:36:58,626 --> 00:37:00,466
Speaker 3: you know, they're they they're going to be up for

767
00:37:00,546 --> 00:37:03,146
Speaker 3: that game. They're going to be competitive, and you know

768
00:37:03,186 --> 00:37:06,146
Speaker 3: we we love that. And you know, back in May

769
00:37:06,186 --> 00:37:09,266
Speaker 3: we Miami at Green Bay again, you know, Lambeau on

770
00:37:09,306 --> 00:37:12,666
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving feels fun and Dolphins coming off a win last night,

771
00:37:12,706 --> 00:37:14,586
Speaker 3: like I said earlier, right, they could be right back

772
00:37:14,626 --> 00:37:17,586
Speaker 3: in the way the AFC is. So you know, you know,

773
00:37:17,706 --> 00:37:19,866
Speaker 3: you know, we try to find that balance of like,

774
00:37:20,186 --> 00:37:22,626
Speaker 3: do you have to put the absolute biggest games on there?

775
00:37:22,786 --> 00:37:25,786
Speaker 3: You know, probably not. There's a really strong just built

776
00:37:25,786 --> 00:37:28,186
Speaker 3: in you know, yeah, built in you're with your family,

777
00:37:28,226 --> 00:37:31,186
Speaker 3: you're watching, but you want them to be meaningful and

778
00:37:31,866 --> 00:37:33,666
Speaker 3: feel good about them. Back in May when you have

779
00:37:33,706 --> 00:37:35,146
Speaker 3: to make these decisions.

780
00:37:34,986 --> 00:37:36,866
Speaker 1: And then the next day the Friday. We brought this

781
00:37:36,906 --> 00:37:38,946
Speaker 1: out last year, and I could tell you from my sources,

782
00:37:38,986 --> 00:37:40,586
Speaker 1: the Jets would have loved to have had that be

783
00:37:40,706 --> 00:37:43,026
Speaker 1: like a Cowboys or Lions Thanksgiving thing. Jets would have

784
00:37:43,066 --> 00:37:46,586
Speaker 1: loved to have had Black Friday. Every take the Macy's

785
00:37:46,666 --> 00:37:49,026
Speaker 1: Day parade crowd, tell them to stay, hang out a bit,

786
00:37:49,546 --> 00:37:51,906
Speaker 1: but you guys said, thank you for your service. We're

787
00:37:51,906 --> 00:37:54,306
Speaker 1: gonna move right along and we'll give this to Kansas City.

788
00:37:54,346 --> 00:37:57,666
Speaker 1: So that game's an arrowhead on a Friday. And what's

789
00:37:57,706 --> 00:37:58,226
Speaker 1: that game?

790
00:37:59,226 --> 00:38:02,106
Speaker 3: Yeah, same thing, right, Starting something new and you know,

791
00:38:02,346 --> 00:38:05,666
Speaker 3: going into a completely new window last year was a

792
00:38:05,666 --> 00:38:08,666
Speaker 3: lot to kind of contemplate. And you know, Miami and

793
00:38:08,706 --> 00:38:11,626
Speaker 3: the Jets again, back when we made that decision Division

794
00:38:11,706 --> 00:38:14,186
Speaker 3: game at the time, thinking Aaron was going to be

795
00:38:14,186 --> 00:38:17,106
Speaker 3: playing felt big in the New York market. The parade,

796
00:38:17,146 --> 00:38:20,186
Speaker 3: everything about it, and you know had to really understand,

797
00:38:20,266 --> 00:38:22,746
Speaker 3: you know, what's three o'clock on Black Friday, Like, there

798
00:38:22,826 --> 00:38:25,466
Speaker 3: was just no comparable to you know, what the viewership

799
00:38:25,506 --> 00:38:27,506
Speaker 3: was going to be. And it's still early, right, We're

800
00:38:27,546 --> 00:38:29,866
Speaker 3: still trying to build a tradition. And so you know,

801
00:38:29,906 --> 00:38:32,106
Speaker 3: in the same way that we went, you know with

802
00:38:32,186 --> 00:38:34,226
Speaker 3: the Jets, with the Dolphins, you know, kind of all right,

803
00:38:34,306 --> 00:38:36,586
Speaker 3: let's go as epic of a place in the league

804
00:38:36,586 --> 00:38:38,586
Speaker 3: as there is right now. Let's go to Arrowhead. Let's

805
00:38:38,586 --> 00:38:41,106
Speaker 3: see what that's going to be, you know, and again,

806
00:38:41,306 --> 00:38:43,586
Speaker 3: you know, matchup wise and everything else. No matter who

807
00:38:43,666 --> 00:38:46,026
Speaker 3: the Raiders are, they're going to take a lot of

808
00:38:46,026 --> 00:38:48,466
Speaker 3: prodown play that team. And we play back to the

809
00:38:48,506 --> 00:38:51,346
Speaker 3: Christmas Day game last year and there was a lot there,

810
00:38:51,386 --> 00:38:53,306
Speaker 3: and so you know, we fully expect that to be

811
00:38:53,386 --> 00:38:56,426
Speaker 3: a competitive game. And you know, the Chiefs aren't blowing

812
00:38:56,466 --> 00:38:58,986
Speaker 3: anyone out right now, so a competitive football game on

813
00:38:59,066 --> 00:39:00,346
Speaker 3: Black Friday should be a fun thing.

814
00:39:00,706 --> 00:39:03,346
Speaker 1: Sure. And then we get to those Christmas games which

815
00:39:03,346 --> 00:39:05,106
Speaker 1: are on Netflix. There are two of them, and I'm

816
00:39:05,106 --> 00:39:07,866
Speaker 1: looking at it now, it looks like it's the AFC Semifinals,

817
00:39:07,906 --> 00:39:10,346
Speaker 1: Like it's it's crazy. If you take Buffalo out of

818
00:39:10,346 --> 00:39:14,266
Speaker 1: the equation. You start off with a Pittsburgh Steelers team

819
00:39:14,306 --> 00:39:16,786
Speaker 1: that's maybe the best story in football right now hosting

820
00:39:17,266 --> 00:39:19,146
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs, and then at night you have

821
00:39:19,306 --> 00:39:23,026
Speaker 1: Texans Ravens. Two great games. That one's in Houston. What

822
00:39:23,266 --> 00:39:25,426
Speaker 1: was the ruling with that? Those teams? Then if they're

823
00:39:25,466 --> 00:39:28,946
Speaker 1: playing on a Wednesday, they couldn't play on the Sunday

824
00:39:28,946 --> 00:39:30,906
Speaker 1: from the previous week, so they both play on Saturday.

825
00:39:30,946 --> 00:39:32,626
Speaker 1: All four of them play on Saturdays. How's that work?

826
00:39:32,786 --> 00:39:35,386
Speaker 3: Yeah, So this was one that was really interesting to

827
00:39:35,426 --> 00:39:37,986
Speaker 3: figure out, right just intuitively, and like, oh, the Athol's

828
00:39:37,986 --> 00:39:39,986
Speaker 3: not going to play on a Wednesday. You know, that's

829
00:39:40,026 --> 00:39:42,066
Speaker 3: just it doesn't happen. And you're right, it doesn't happen.

830
00:39:42,106 --> 00:39:43,386
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know what the stat is. We

831
00:39:43,426 --> 00:39:46,506
Speaker 3: haven't scheduled a Wednesday game in decades, you know. But

832
00:39:47,546 --> 00:39:49,706
Speaker 3: you know, look at the success we've had on Christmas

833
00:39:49,746 --> 00:39:51,906
Speaker 3: the last few years, you know, last year kind of

834
00:39:51,946 --> 00:39:55,626
Speaker 3: I think, averaging twenty six twenty seven million across those

835
00:39:55,946 --> 00:39:58,546
Speaker 3: those windows. And I think what our learning is Christmas

836
00:39:58,586 --> 00:40:01,626
Speaker 3: is another day like Thanksgiving, where you're with your families,

837
00:40:02,026 --> 00:40:04,546
Speaker 3: you know, whether you celebrate or not, it's everybody. You know,

838
00:40:04,586 --> 00:40:07,586
Speaker 3: it's a holiday, and there's a all built in market.

839
00:40:07,706 --> 00:40:10,266
Speaker 3: So the challenge to us from the commissioner was, how

840
00:40:10,626 --> 00:40:12,706
Speaker 3: are we going to figure this out? So you're right,

841
00:40:12,746 --> 00:40:14,706
Speaker 3: you can't play Sunday to Wednesday. You know, there's a

842
00:40:14,746 --> 00:40:18,586
Speaker 3: minimum amount of rest required between games. But Saturday to

843
00:40:18,666 --> 00:40:23,066
Speaker 3: Wednesday is the same as Sunday to Thursday. So this

844
00:40:23,226 --> 00:40:25,946
Speaker 3: just becomes one of those those four teams. This is

845
00:40:26,026 --> 00:40:29,946
Speaker 3: one of their short week Thursdays, and so that's that

846
00:40:29,986 --> 00:40:32,906
Speaker 3: excuse me, short week, short weeks, right, So it's just

847
00:40:32,946 --> 00:40:36,186
Speaker 3: a short week on a Wednesday, but Saturday to Wednesday

848
00:40:36,226 --> 00:40:38,506
Speaker 3: is doable. And then we had to find four teams

849
00:40:38,746 --> 00:40:41,226
Speaker 3: who played each other in a combination so that we

850
00:40:41,266 --> 00:40:43,706
Speaker 3: could get to those games. Right. So you you mentioned

851
00:40:43,746 --> 00:40:48,186
Speaker 3: the matchups on Christmas are fantastic, awesome, and then the

852
00:40:48,226 --> 00:40:51,866
Speaker 3: previous Saturday, we're playing one o'clock on NBC Houston at

853
00:40:51,946 --> 00:40:56,186
Speaker 3: Kansas City, pretty great game, Pittsburgh and Baltimore on Fox

854
00:40:56,226 --> 00:40:59,746
Speaker 3: at four thirty. And so we really liked that combination

855
00:40:59,986 --> 00:41:02,426
Speaker 3: back in April, and may we really like it now

856
00:41:02,466 --> 00:41:05,306
Speaker 3: here in November, talking about four teams who are just

857
00:41:05,906 --> 00:41:08,506
Speaker 3: all over it. And so that was, you know, and

858
00:41:08,546 --> 00:41:11,746
Speaker 3: this is the kind of the what the scheduling team

859
00:41:11,826 --> 00:41:13,666
Speaker 3: is challenged with. And there were maybe one or two

860
00:41:13,706 --> 00:41:16,466
Speaker 3: other combinations of four teams that we could have gotten to,

861
00:41:17,026 --> 00:41:18,826
Speaker 3: but that we got to this and that where we're

862
00:41:18,866 --> 00:41:21,306
Speaker 3: sitting right now, you feel, you know, you're pretty psyched

863
00:41:21,306 --> 00:41:21,706
Speaker 3: about that.

864
00:41:21,986 --> 00:41:24,986
Speaker 1: Yeah, And there was a ton of promotion into the

865
00:41:25,026 --> 00:41:28,306
Speaker 1: Peacock games on last year, both the regular season and

866
00:41:28,346 --> 00:41:31,066
Speaker 1: the playoffs. There was a ton of promotion this year

867
00:41:31,106 --> 00:41:33,706
Speaker 1: before that ESPN plus Monday Night game like go find

868
00:41:33,706 --> 00:41:39,106
Speaker 1: it Netflix, first time having it. I feel like we've

869
00:41:39,146 --> 00:41:40,786
Speaker 1: seen a lot, hurt a lot in this fight. This

870
00:41:40,866 --> 00:41:43,546
Speaker 1: weekend with Tyson and Paul is gonna, you know, be

871
00:41:43,826 --> 00:41:46,106
Speaker 1: a live event and I'm sure there'll be commercials for it.

872
00:41:47,066 --> 00:41:49,106
Speaker 1: Do you feel like the NFL has to like promote

873
00:41:49,106 --> 00:41:50,586
Speaker 1: the hell to that or that's one of those where

874
00:41:50,626 --> 00:41:52,586
Speaker 1: like everyone's got Netflix, they'll turn it on, they'll know

875
00:41:52,586 --> 00:41:53,226
Speaker 1: where to find it.

876
00:41:53,906 --> 00:41:56,266
Speaker 3: Look, I think it's both. Right. We can't take anything

877
00:41:56,266 --> 00:41:59,546
Speaker 3: for granted, right, because I think you can't underestimate kind

878
00:41:59,586 --> 00:42:02,306
Speaker 3: of whether, you know, especially if you're kind of watching

879
00:42:02,386 --> 00:42:05,746
Speaker 3: on cable satellite, just starting at the bottom and just

880
00:42:05,786 --> 00:42:07,706
Speaker 3: clicking up to you find the game, or if you're

881
00:42:07,746 --> 00:42:10,906
Speaker 3: watching on YouTube, TV or Hulu or something, you know,

882
00:42:10,906 --> 00:42:13,466
Speaker 3: they'll surface the game to you. But you cannot take

883
00:42:13,506 --> 00:42:16,386
Speaker 3: for granted that I you know, fans will know, yes,

884
00:42:16,466 --> 00:42:18,586
Speaker 3: this game is on Netflix, like we need to build

885
00:42:18,586 --> 00:42:21,986
Speaker 3: that awareness, and Netflix will build that awareness on their

886
00:42:22,026 --> 00:42:24,706
Speaker 3: own platform. And the most you know, one of the

887
00:42:24,866 --> 00:42:27,746
Speaker 3: interesting things when they first came to us and you know,

888
00:42:27,826 --> 00:42:30,666
Speaker 3: said hey, we'd like to do this is Christmas is

889
00:42:30,706 --> 00:42:32,906
Speaker 3: also their most view day of the year, is what

890
00:42:32,946 --> 00:42:33,506
Speaker 3: they told us.

891
00:42:33,586 --> 00:42:35,586
Speaker 1: So wow, because everyone's on the couch, they're home.

892
00:42:35,786 --> 00:42:38,226
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, exactly. So if you want to watch

893
00:42:38,346 --> 00:42:40,906
Speaker 3: the NFL and some great games, great, you're gonna find it.

894
00:42:40,946 --> 00:42:43,146
Speaker 3: If you want to watch whatever else you watch on Netflix,

895
00:42:43,146 --> 00:42:44,946
Speaker 3: but maybe you didn't know what the game was on

896
00:42:44,986 --> 00:42:47,826
Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, wow, let me watch Steelers Chiefs.

897
00:42:47,866 --> 00:42:50,026
Speaker 3: So no, look, like I said, we don't.

898
00:42:50,226 --> 00:42:54,786
Speaker 1: Planning on watching sing too. But wait a second, the

899
00:42:54,826 --> 00:42:57,786
Speaker 1: Texans are playing the Ravens. Do you mind? Yeah, okay,

900
00:42:57,786 --> 00:42:58,226
Speaker 1: go for it.

901
00:42:58,266 --> 00:43:02,026
Speaker 3: Yeah that's exactly cool. Yeah, yeah exactly. So you know, look,

902
00:43:02,066 --> 00:43:04,266
Speaker 3: it's it's a cool it's a great opportunity for us.

903
00:43:04,346 --> 00:43:06,986
Speaker 3: They really, you know, we want to to do this

904
00:43:07,026 --> 00:43:10,346
Speaker 3: together and it's a generally kind of a worldwide feed

905
00:43:10,626 --> 00:43:13,346
Speaker 3: and everything else. There's a lot going on there and

906
00:43:13,586 --> 00:43:15,786
Speaker 3: it's been a great kind of working through all this

907
00:43:15,906 --> 00:43:18,786
Speaker 3: to get that launched, and we're excited for what it's

908
00:43:18,826 --> 00:43:21,466
Speaker 3: going to be and Cherry on top. As you said,

909
00:43:21,626 --> 00:43:23,786
Speaker 3: great matchups, great matchups.

910
00:43:24,506 --> 00:43:27,866
Speaker 1: I'll wrap with this. I always tell Mike North this.

911
00:43:28,106 --> 00:43:31,266
Speaker 1: I've told you this, I've pushed it on this podcast

912
00:43:31,946 --> 00:43:35,386
Speaker 1: multiple times. I've told Hans Schroeder this. I think there

913
00:43:35,426 --> 00:43:38,626
Speaker 1: should be a live program at the end of the

914
00:43:38,746 --> 00:43:44,306
Speaker 1: Sunday night game of week eighteen with cameras in the

915
00:43:44,426 --> 00:43:49,466
Speaker 1: executive's office at NBC, Mark Lazarus, I want Eric Shanks,

916
00:43:49,586 --> 00:43:54,466
Speaker 1: I want you know, CBS is David Berson, and ESPN

917
00:43:54,506 --> 00:43:57,026
Speaker 1: I guess right now is either Jimmy Pittaro or Burke Magnus.

918
00:43:57,026 --> 00:43:58,826
Speaker 1: I'm not sure who makes those decisions on their side,

919
00:43:58,866 --> 00:44:02,106
Speaker 1: but I would like cameras on all of these gentlemen

920
00:44:02,786 --> 00:44:05,986
Speaker 1: as they are given their playoff slates and their playoff fates,

921
00:44:06,506 --> 00:44:09,746
Speaker 1: which games they're getting. Is there any chance we can

922
00:44:09,786 --> 00:44:16,106
Speaker 1: get a live selection Sunday feel to the assignments of

923
00:44:16,146 --> 00:44:18,266
Speaker 1: which network gets which games, because I still think it's

924
00:44:18,306 --> 00:44:20,106
Speaker 1: one of the one of the great ideas that it's

925
00:44:20,186 --> 00:44:21,186
Speaker 1: just untapped in our.

926
00:44:21,146 --> 00:44:24,706
Speaker 3: Industry, that is deep, deep into the weeds there, and

927
00:44:24,986 --> 00:44:27,386
Speaker 3: maybe as bonus content you can get a spy on

928
00:44:27,546 --> 00:44:31,266
Speaker 3: our zoom. As we're making those decisions, I will tell

929
00:44:31,266 --> 00:44:34,186
Speaker 3: you that Sunday Night, Week eighteen, Sunday Night is a

930
00:44:34,346 --> 00:44:38,786
Speaker 3: fascinating one, and maybe Week seventeen Sunday Night because everything

931
00:44:38,786 --> 00:44:40,906
Speaker 3: in week eighteen is a black slate, right, that whole

932
00:44:40,946 --> 00:44:44,506
Speaker 3: schedule is TBD, and we're going to sequence Saturday doubleheader

933
00:44:44,586 --> 00:44:48,906
Speaker 3: on ESPN, ABC and then early late and Sunday night,

934
00:44:49,266 --> 00:44:51,146
Speaker 3: trying to build to Sunday Night as a win and

935
00:44:51,186 --> 00:44:53,626
Speaker 3: in game. But nothing at one o'clock is going to

936
00:44:53,666 --> 00:44:56,786
Speaker 3: render four o'clock, you know, meaningless, and nothing on Saturday

937
00:44:56,866 --> 00:44:58,866
Speaker 3: is going to render anything on Sunday meeting list, that's

938
00:44:58,906 --> 00:45:01,826
Speaker 3: a fun day because there's a million things to figure out,

939
00:45:02,146 --> 00:45:04,266
Speaker 3: and we start thinking about that, you know, a couple

940
00:45:04,306 --> 00:45:06,586
Speaker 3: of weeks before Christmas, like what's ahead of us we

941
00:45:06,626 --> 00:45:09,226
Speaker 3: got to be ready for. So those two Sundays a

942
00:45:09,266 --> 00:45:11,466
Speaker 3: lot of decisions to make, but a lot it's fun,

943
00:45:11,586 --> 00:45:13,186
Speaker 3: you know, you talk about the fun part of what

944
00:45:13,226 --> 00:45:15,866
Speaker 3: we do. And to your point, those executives on the

945
00:45:15,906 --> 00:45:18,346
Speaker 3: other end and all the fans, right, what's the matchup

946
00:45:18,386 --> 00:45:21,546
Speaker 3: go down? And you know what's the sequence of wild

947
00:45:21,546 --> 00:45:24,586
Speaker 3: Card weekend? Especially now that we're going across three days.

948
00:45:24,146 --> 00:45:26,706
Speaker 3: It's incredible, It's great.

949
00:45:27,026 --> 00:45:29,586
Speaker 1: Annie. As we wrap, I have so many people who

950
00:45:29,746 --> 00:45:32,226
Speaker 1: email me and say, oh, I've got a kid who's

951
00:45:32,266 --> 00:45:34,666
Speaker 1: a journalism major and wants to do what you do?

952
00:45:34,866 --> 00:45:37,226
Speaker 1: You mind having coffee with them? I am sure you

953
00:45:37,226 --> 00:45:39,466
Speaker 1: get a deluge of emails from people being like my

954
00:45:39,626 --> 00:45:41,626
Speaker 1: son or daughter would love to work for the NFL.

955
00:45:41,746 --> 00:45:43,866
Speaker 1: Sounds like you have a dream job and all this stuff.

956
00:45:44,306 --> 00:45:47,346
Speaker 1: What would be your advice for someone young or not

957
00:45:47,386 --> 00:45:48,946
Speaker 1: even someone young, someone who wants to make a career

958
00:45:49,026 --> 00:45:51,826
Speaker 1: change and get into this world and wants to do

959
00:45:52,306 --> 00:45:54,826
Speaker 1: what we do or and more specifically what you do

960
00:45:54,946 --> 00:45:57,546
Speaker 1: working for the league and working in this capacity. What

961
00:45:57,586 --> 00:46:00,066
Speaker 1: would be your advice to somebody trying to just get

962
00:46:00,106 --> 00:46:01,946
Speaker 1: all the ducks in a row and setting themselves up

963
00:46:01,986 --> 00:46:02,826
Speaker 1: for that opportunity.

964
00:46:03,746 --> 00:46:05,386
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, first of all, Peter, you and I

965
00:46:05,426 --> 00:46:08,186
Speaker 3: talk about it, like you said, you know, we're buddies

966
00:46:08,226 --> 00:46:10,266
Speaker 3: and we'd like to text and joke about stuff, but

967
00:46:10,346 --> 00:46:13,906
Speaker 3: like we're so lucky. I get it. We are. We

968
00:46:13,986 --> 00:46:17,146
Speaker 3: are blessed, and I I think I'm thankful for that

969
00:46:17,226 --> 00:46:19,586
Speaker 3: every day. And my kids love to tell my wife

970
00:46:19,586 --> 00:46:21,906
Speaker 3: that Dad has to watch football on TV for a living,

971
00:46:21,906 --> 00:46:23,826
Speaker 3: and I'm like, okay, you know, like there there's a

972
00:46:23,826 --> 00:46:27,066
Speaker 3: lot worse things to do, so starting at that point,

973
00:46:27,106 --> 00:46:29,626
Speaker 3: and everybody's got an orange and story and a winding

974
00:46:29,706 --> 00:46:31,466
Speaker 3: road to where they got to. I think just my

975
00:46:31,666 --> 00:46:34,746
Speaker 3: general point of view and advice whether you know, especially

976
00:46:34,786 --> 00:46:36,586
Speaker 3: if you're young, but at any point, like if if

977
00:46:36,626 --> 00:46:38,266
Speaker 3: you if you want to go for it, just just

978
00:46:38,306 --> 00:46:40,426
Speaker 3: be open minded, be willing to kind of do just

979
00:46:40,506 --> 00:46:43,786
Speaker 3: about anything. Right. Not too many people land at the NFL,

980
00:46:44,346 --> 00:46:46,706
Speaker 3: and you know the Roger Goodell story started an intern

981
00:46:46,746 --> 00:46:49,546
Speaker 3: and become the commissioner. But if you get in somewhere

982
00:46:49,546 --> 00:46:51,426
Speaker 3: and you do the work and kind of you know,

983
00:46:51,506 --> 00:46:53,506
Speaker 3: people know you and like you, you just kind of

984
00:46:53,586 --> 00:46:57,106
Speaker 3: build on that and and go from there. And yeah,

985
00:46:57,146 --> 00:46:59,506
Speaker 3: you know, we're super lucky. You're right, you know, people

986
00:46:59,586 --> 00:47:01,186
Speaker 3: kind of reach out to you and you try to

987
00:47:01,226 --> 00:47:03,826
Speaker 3: share your experience. But the big the biggest thing is

988
00:47:03,946 --> 00:47:06,426
Speaker 3: just you know, one if if you have that opportunity,

989
00:47:06,466 --> 00:47:08,586
Speaker 3: unity and you can do it, go for it. But

990
00:47:08,706 --> 00:47:11,306
Speaker 3: just be be open minded. And maybe you don't want

991
00:47:11,306 --> 00:47:13,226
Speaker 3: to work in a certain thing, but if you get

992
00:47:13,226 --> 00:47:14,226
Speaker 3: in the door, you never.

993
00:47:14,106 --> 00:47:17,306
Speaker 1: Know where you go totally. And like I always said,

994
00:47:17,306 --> 00:47:20,666
Speaker 1: everyone like there's no job that's too small. But also

995
00:47:21,066 --> 00:47:24,066
Speaker 1: put yourself out there right, like there's no email you

996
00:47:24,106 --> 00:47:26,906
Speaker 1: can't send, Like I'm sure if you go through your

997
00:47:26,946 --> 00:47:29,426
Speaker 1: emails on you there was a version of me ten, fifteen,

998
00:47:29,466 --> 00:47:31,426
Speaker 1: twenty years ago who probably emailed you like, hey, I'd

999
00:47:31,426 --> 00:47:33,306
Speaker 1: love to get coffee. Can you talk about it? Because

1000
00:47:33,346 --> 00:47:35,186
Speaker 1: I know I sent them to Peter O'Reilly for about

1001
00:47:35,226 --> 00:47:36,586
Speaker 1: a decade so they do it.

1002
00:47:38,106 --> 00:47:40,146
Speaker 3: I'm a little older than you, so it was me

1003
00:47:40,306 --> 00:47:43,986
Speaker 3: writing letters to every PR person in every league and

1004
00:47:44,106 --> 00:47:46,066
Speaker 3: just you know, whatever, whatever you could take. And then

1005
00:47:46,426 --> 00:47:48,506
Speaker 3: all takes is one to respond and you have that

1006
00:47:48,586 --> 00:47:50,266
Speaker 3: opportunity and then you got to go make the most

1007
00:47:50,266 --> 00:47:50,426
Speaker 3: of it.

1008
00:47:50,906 --> 00:47:52,666
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. Heye, ta go it. And I

1009
00:47:52,746 --> 00:47:54,306
Speaker 1: want to hear your story because I'm sure you have

1010
00:47:54,386 --> 00:47:58,226
Speaker 1: someone that you can mention. But I once wrote an

1011
00:47:58,306 --> 00:48:01,226
Speaker 1: email probably two thousand and four, two thousand and five,

1012
00:48:01,266 --> 00:48:03,386
Speaker 1: hours out of college, I was freelance writing and I

1013
00:48:03,386 --> 00:48:06,666
Speaker 1: wrote an email because I got his email somehow to

1014
00:48:06,786 --> 00:48:09,786
Speaker 1: Jim Nance. And basically I was like writing articles for

1015
00:48:09,906 --> 00:48:12,186
Speaker 1: Foxsports dot com or maybe not even maybe I was

1016
00:48:12,186 --> 00:48:14,186
Speaker 1: writing for the Free Metro paper in New York. And

1017
00:48:14,226 --> 00:48:17,266
Speaker 1: I wrote Jim Dance like email about how I'm from

1018
00:48:17,306 --> 00:48:19,026
Speaker 1: New Jersey, You're from New Jersey. I just read the

1019
00:48:19,066 --> 00:48:22,066
Speaker 1: book that you wrote about your father, and and that

1020
00:48:22,266 --> 00:48:26,306
Speaker 1: started a you know, two three year email correspondence. And

1021
00:48:26,346 --> 00:48:28,386
Speaker 1: every time Jim Nance was in New York, he would

1022
00:48:28,466 --> 00:48:29,826
Speaker 1: hit me up and say, hey, do you want to

1023
00:48:29,826 --> 00:48:32,666
Speaker 1: grab coffee? Like I'd be willing to do it too,

1024
00:48:32,706 --> 00:48:35,266
Speaker 1: for some like people do respond. So I always tell

1025
00:48:35,306 --> 00:48:37,546
Speaker 1: everyone like, it doesn't hurt to send an email. They

1026
00:48:37,586 --> 00:48:39,186
Speaker 1: might not try to take you up on it, but

1027
00:48:39,226 --> 00:48:39,866
Speaker 1: someone will.

1028
00:48:40,506 --> 00:48:42,386
Speaker 3: Someone will, and that's all it takes. And you know,

1029
00:48:42,466 --> 00:48:45,226
Speaker 3: my daughters are seventeen and fifteen, so what you got

1030
00:48:45,226 --> 00:48:47,266
Speaker 3: to look forward to it and in a bunch of years,

1031
00:48:47,266 --> 00:48:49,706
Speaker 3: but you know, they're great kids and they're going out

1032
00:48:49,706 --> 00:48:51,626
Speaker 3: in the world and that just you know, whether it's

1033
00:48:51,626 --> 00:48:54,586
Speaker 3: figuravely or literally stick your hand out say hello, you know,

1034
00:48:54,946 --> 00:48:57,426
Speaker 3: engage with people that they really you know, like you said,

1035
00:48:57,466 --> 00:48:59,826
Speaker 3: some may just it's not you know, it's not the

1036
00:48:59,906 --> 00:49:02,506
Speaker 3: right day or time, and somebody may just connect and

1037
00:49:02,546 --> 00:49:04,866
Speaker 3: you click and you never know totally.

1038
00:49:05,346 --> 00:49:07,666
Speaker 1: All right, this was all Annie Bo's. We're gonna have

1039
00:49:07,706 --> 00:49:09,506
Speaker 1: you on a bunch more. This is so fun. I

1040
00:49:09,506 --> 00:49:11,426
Speaker 1: feel like we just gave a tutorial to the listeners

1041
00:49:11,426 --> 00:49:14,946
Speaker 1: on Fox scheduling. The bottom line is you're gonna get

1042
00:49:14,986 --> 00:49:18,786
Speaker 1: as many big games as humanly possible in big windows,

1043
00:49:18,866 --> 00:49:20,226
Speaker 1: and we're going to try to keep this thing as

1044
00:49:20,226 --> 00:49:23,746
Speaker 1: competitive as possible for the national audiences as the season

1045
00:49:23,786 --> 00:49:25,786
Speaker 1: goes on. Annie, I know you're a very busy guy,

1046
00:49:26,186 --> 00:49:29,306
Speaker 1: so appreciated and have an amazing next few weeks, including

1047
00:49:29,306 --> 00:49:30,906
Speaker 1: these holiday games. I know you're gonna be on the

1048
00:49:30,986 --> 00:49:32,466
Speaker 1: road and you just got back from Munich, so it

1049
00:49:32,506 --> 00:49:34,106
Speaker 1: means a lot for you to do the podcast with me.

1050
00:49:34,866 --> 00:49:36,826
Speaker 3: No, I appreciate it. Peter always enjoy talking to you,

1051
00:49:36,866 --> 00:49:40,546
Speaker 3: whether it's offline or on the podcast. So anytime, anytime

1052
00:49:41,266 --> 00:49:43,826
Speaker 3: you want, I'm happy to join you. And you know,

1053
00:49:44,266 --> 00:49:46,506
Speaker 3: at the bottom line, you and I are fans. In

1054
00:49:46,546 --> 00:49:48,386
Speaker 3: these next six to seven eight weeks are going to

1055
00:49:48,426 --> 00:49:50,106
Speaker 3: be a lot of fun. So I'm looking forward to it.

1056
00:49:50,666 --> 00:49:54,506
Speaker 1: No doubt. My prediction was Chiefs versus Packers. It's still flickering,

1057
00:49:54,626 --> 00:49:57,306
Speaker 1: it's still alive. And I think Fox. I think Fox

1058
00:49:57,306 --> 00:49:59,986
Speaker 1: would sign up for a Chiefs Packers super Bowl rehash

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Speaker 1: of Super Bowl one. That doesn't sound so bad.

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Speaker 3: I think they'd be okay with that. I think the

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Speaker 3: Lions are such a fun, awesome story, you know that,

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Speaker 3: you know, get Bills and Josh Allen to get there

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Speaker 3: would be such a leap.

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Speaker 1: So I think, did you imagine real quick? Could you

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Speaker 1: imagine the Bills fans and the Lions fans on Bourbon

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Speaker 1: Street for a week? I can't. Actually, I think we're

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Speaker 1: all gonna melt. Yeah, that's gonna be insane that happens.

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Speaker 3: Let's go who knows now, But no matter what, it's

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Speaker 3: gonna be fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Wait, all right, Honnie, thank you, buddy, you gotta beter.

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Speaker 3: Thanks appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's interesting. Honnie Bo's is a great dude.

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Speaker 1: He works in that same group as Mike North and

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Speaker 1: Hans Schroeder and the NFL's media group. But Aaron I

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Speaker 1: thought it was really interesting all of the different rules

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Speaker 1: and regulations and all the stuff that the parameters of

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Speaker 1: flex scheduling because it's not as easy as well, Sunday

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00:50:57,546 --> 00:51:00,106
Speaker 1: night gets the best game. Now Fox and CBS they

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Speaker 1: pay a lot of money to make sure that they

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Speaker 1: get good games in their windows as well.

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Speaker 2: I also I didn't realize is the rule of only

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00:51:09,266 --> 00:51:13,466
Speaker 2: two short weeks, and if you're doing two short weeks,

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00:51:13,506 --> 00:51:15,226
Speaker 2: only one of them can be a road game.

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Speaker 1: There was so much.

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Speaker 2: I feel like some of these things I thought I knew,

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Speaker 2: and the more he got into it, like we're not

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00:51:22,146 --> 00:51:24,586
Speaker 2: you know, the Wednesday games. It's okay if they played

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00:51:24,626 --> 00:51:27,266
Speaker 2: on the Saturday because it's a short week, but not

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00:51:27,386 --> 00:51:29,746
Speaker 2: on the Sunday. There's a lot more. The more I

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00:51:29,826 --> 00:51:36,466
Speaker 2: hear about creating the schedule, the more incredibly intricate it becomes.

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Speaker 2: And now I understand why they sit in this room

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00:51:39,826 --> 00:51:43,986
Speaker 2: all off season crafting it with so many different legs

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00:51:44,226 --> 00:51:45,586
Speaker 2: and webs that weave together.

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Speaker 1: The great Howard Katz used to be in charge of

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00:51:47,866 --> 00:51:49,786
Speaker 1: it and still plays a role. But they say it's

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00:51:49,786 --> 00:51:52,186
Speaker 1: an art and a science. So like the art of

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00:51:52,186 --> 00:51:54,426
Speaker 1: it is like the fun stuff of like oh, Chiefs

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00:51:54,466 --> 00:51:57,226
Speaker 1: play bills this weekend. The science of it is, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Chiefs play bill this weekend, but because we got a

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Speaker 1: flex of Chargers versus Bengals, we can now make it

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00:52:04,986 --> 00:52:06,506
Speaker 1: the sole game. And if it's a sole game, and

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Speaker 1: let's end our pregame show like it's pretty cool stuff.

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Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by it. In another life, I would be

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Speaker 1: doing what Annie does. I find it really cool what

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Speaker 1: they do, and they've got great relationships and they also

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Speaker 1: wield a lot of power with the different networks, so

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Speaker 1: it's always interesting to see how those guys go back

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Speaker 1: and forth. That was a cool guest, and this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be a really cool week of NFL. Last week

1110
00:52:26,666 --> 00:52:29,746
Speaker 1: was kind of a dud, but Thursday night was great

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Speaker 1: and the season with Peter Schrager delivering results presented by

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Speaker 1: delivering results presented by Uber eats, where you can get

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Speaker 1: almost almost anything for game dates. The award for the

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00:52:41,466 --> 00:52:43,866
Speaker 1: best performance of the week, and I'm giving it to

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. I thought Lamar Jackson was simply awesome last

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Speaker 1: Thursday night at home in those purple Rising jerseys against

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00:52:50,946 --> 00:52:55,666
Speaker 1: the Bengals, fading drifting, there's that beautiful touch pass touchdown

1119
00:52:55,666 --> 00:52:58,906
Speaker 1: where he's almost looking like Steph Curry fading away. And

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Speaker 1: I love the uniforms. Thought those were cool. The Ravens

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Speaker 1: they hold serve with the Steelers and they've got a

1122
00:53:04,906 --> 00:53:08,826
Speaker 1: huge showdown this weekend. Lamar Jackson so fun to watch him.

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Speaker 1: This year puts up huge numbers and now he's getting

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Speaker 1: it done in crunch time, which wasn't always the case,

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Speaker 1: and that was delivering results done by Uber Eats, where

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Speaker 1: you can get almost almost anything for game day, the

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Speaker 1: official on demand delivery partner of the NFL order. Now

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Speaker 1: I'll close with those matchups. I think if you just

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Speaker 1: sit at your TV on Thursday night, you're getting Commander's Eagles,

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Speaker 1: and then on Sunday in the one o'clock window, you

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00:53:32,866 --> 00:53:35,666
Speaker 1: get your Steelers Ravens, in the four o'clock window, you

1132
00:53:35,706 --> 00:53:37,506
Speaker 1: get your Bills Chiefs, and then if you leave it

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Speaker 1: all that night, you get that Bengals versus Chargers game.

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Speaker 1: That is a really cool Thursday and a really cool Sunday,

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Speaker 1: and I am here for all that. Aaron Wan Kaufman,

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Speaker 1: Jason English, thank you guys, and thanks to everyone who's listening.

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Speaker 1: Annie Bow's interesting guests. We'll do it again next week.

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Speaker 1: Have a good one, everybody. The Season with Peter Schrager

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