Speaker 1: Episode two six one, Let's normalize secondhand gifting. Welcome to
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Speaker 1: host Jen and Jill. M m m m m m
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Speaker 1: my name is Jen, my name is Jill, and today
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Speaker 1: pushing back not on shopping. We love getting a good deal, um,
Speaker 1: but we are pushing back on all of the vanity
Speaker 1: gifts and the obligatory gifts and the obligatory first hand
Speaker 1: brand new gifts that people feel like they need to give.
Speaker 1: And today we're gonna normalize secondhand gifting. You're gonna You're
Speaker 1: gonna leave this episode and feel like I'm gonna shop
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Speaker 1: thing is is even the best of us fall for this.
Speaker 1: We get caught up into whatever is happening in the sea.
Speaker 1: There is this like feeling that kind of comes over me.
Speaker 1: At least you. I'm not looking at you. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at you and your gift setups that you have for
Speaker 1: your niece and nephew over here. Jill is so extra
Speaker 1: with gift giving, and so this episodes for Jill. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's the thing because and I was just talking
Speaker 1: to my husband about this too, that my ideal self,
Speaker 1: my ideologies are one thing, but I'm realizing that in
Speaker 1: certain areas of life, my actions don't always line up
Speaker 1: with that. Like in my in my mind, I'm minimalist.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to buy new I don't
Speaker 1: want to buy junk, I don't want throwaway things. I
Speaker 1: don't want plastic. I don't want to just get a
Speaker 1: gift for the sake of getting a gift. But then
Speaker 1: my niece and nephew come to visit me, and I
Speaker 1: lose my mind. I'm like, I want to go to
Speaker 1: the plastic section and just like get the things that
Speaker 1: I think are going to excite them. I do feel
Speaker 1: like I did decent this time. I already had some
Speaker 1: stuffed animals on hand, and I bought crafts that we
Speaker 1: could do together that have like a carrying case with
Speaker 1: them whatever. I just I could have gone so much extra,
Speaker 1: and I'm still trying to hone it in. All I'm
Speaker 1: saying is I'm with you for this episode. We're all
Speaker 1: going to try this together. We can do hard things.
Speaker 1: But like even me who considers myself super super non spending,
Speaker 1: there are certain things that are like my kryptonite and
Speaker 1: well and you're and gift giving can still be your
Speaker 1: love language, and you can do it in a better way.
Speaker 1: You can just get creative. You can improve, and there's prioritizing,
Speaker 1: there's grace, but there is room always for improvement. And
Speaker 1: then we're gonna talk about that. That's where we are today.
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Speaker 1: articles things. That's just always good stuff. And I'm biased
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Speaker 1: think they're great. I love you for that. So if
Speaker 1: you are gearing up for gifting, it's bit's it's time,
Speaker 1: it's the best time of the year. Then we have
Speaker 1: a few other gifting episodes for you. We've got episode
Speaker 1: one um what to do after the d clutter, so
Speaker 1: tips for donating, gifting, selling, all that, and then we
Speaker 1: have EPISOD thirty four with free and easy gift ideas,
Speaker 1: especially last minute gifts for frugal gifters, because that's that's
Speaker 1: where we spend the most money, is last minute stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh I love all these episodes because I just I
Speaker 1: do you you you caught me Jen, you know me.
Speaker 1: It's not in any a Graham number. It's it's a gifting.
Speaker 1: It's a love language, and you are so good at it.
Speaker 1: Well it feels like pressure. I say, no, it's not pressure.
Speaker 1: It's it's you have a gift for gifting, and I
Speaker 1: am excited to see how you expand with this new challenge,
Speaker 1: so let's get into it. The first article is eight
Speaker 1: important reasons to buy gifts second hand, and I would
Speaker 1: love to know how this how this article attacked you,
Speaker 1: I mean impacted. Well, here's the thing. I you don't
Speaker 1: have to get me on board with this. I'm already there.
Speaker 1: I love the thrift store, I love yard sales, I
Speaker 1: love buying second hand and spoil wort. A lot of
Speaker 1: my gifts are second hand, and we'll we'll talk about
Speaker 1: that in the second article about how we can do
Speaker 1: this and not offend people. But I don't really worry
Speaker 1: about that. I just do what I'm gonna do and
Speaker 1: see how see how the cookie crumbs fall. But yes,
Speaker 1: let's convince ourselves further on why this is a good idea.
Speaker 1: Whether you're already doing it, this will just be further validation.
Speaker 1: Or if you're not giving second hand stuff as gifts,
Speaker 1: here's some reasons why and maybe kind of lower that
Speaker 1: bearer to entry. So so I think great reasons here.
Speaker 1: The first is that giving second hand reduces waste. We
Speaker 1: already know this in our own lives, so of course
Speaker 1: it's going to apply when we give gifts. We are
Speaker 1: not purchasing new We're not getting it all wrapped in
Speaker 1: the unnecessary plastic and packaging that just gets thrown away. Uh,
Speaker 1: we are taking things out of the thrift store. Not Yeah,
Speaker 1: continuing to lead to the consumption and consumerism that definitely
Speaker 1: were plagued by this time of year. And another great
Speaker 1: reason speaking of like reducing waste, is that these things
Speaker 1: often come pre assembled. Like it, it not only reduces waste,
Speaker 1: but it reduces our waste of time. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you've ever gotten or your kids have gotten a
Speaker 1: gift that not only do you have to like use
Speaker 1: the jaws of life to get that gift out of
Speaker 1: its packaging, but then you have to assemble that. You've
Speaker 1: got to hunt for the batteries. You gotta do this,
Speaker 1: you gotta do that. And second hand kifs usually come
Speaker 1: pre assembled, along with all other types of things like
Speaker 1: whether it's furniture or you name it. We often when
Speaker 1: we're getting so many things delivered to our homes now
Speaker 1: we're so accustomed to putting them together ourselves, and so
Speaker 1: it reduces our waste of time as well. Yeah, of
Speaker 1: those especially on Facebook marketplace where you get some of
Speaker 1: your bigger items so that is absolutely true. Uh. Number
Speaker 1: two is secondhand gifting supports local communities and local economies.
Speaker 1: And if if solely for the reason that you are
Speaker 1: not supporting that, you are just pulling some of your
Speaker 1: support from big box retailers. So that's kind of just biomission. Uh,
Speaker 1: you're just taking it away from there. But the article
Speaker 1: says that a healthy local economy is a backbone for
Speaker 1: a strong local community, which often leads to happier residence,
Speaker 1: more connected and invested neighbors. I don't know one of
Speaker 1: our one of our after we don't talk about the
Speaker 1: after show, but one of our after shows where I
Speaker 1: talked about how I got a coffee table on Facebook
Speaker 1: Marketplace and ended up at a house I used to
Speaker 1: live at, So weird. Um. Supporting local second hand shops
Speaker 1: short supports the local community and using by nothing groups
Speaker 1: free cycle, Facebook Marketplace, you support the individuals in the community,
Speaker 1: so we we pay for items that we purchase. So
Speaker 1: would you rather your money going to Jeff Bezos or
Speaker 1: to your neighbors in your community? And I think this
Speaker 1: is a really this is the same reason why we
Speaker 1: say keep your money in a credit union versus a
Speaker 1: big bank, because your money stays in the community, it
Speaker 1: supports the local economy. Um, and this is just uh
Speaker 1: continuation of that on a more direct level. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean we're getting to the point and recognizing that buying
Speaker 1: second hand isn't just a financial decision. It's also connected
Speaker 1: to our own morality and ethics and the way we
Speaker 1: want to show up in the world. So even if
Speaker 1: we I think it helps to reduce the stigma that
Speaker 1: buying secondhand is just something cheap people do or you know,
Speaker 1: something stingy that people do, there's so much more to it,
Speaker 1: and it's running deeper and deeper that I think more
Speaker 1: people are getting on board with you are buying from
Speaker 1: somebody and giving them money, who also is buying gifts
Speaker 1: for their children. Yeah, Like Jeff Bezos doesn't need any
Speaker 1: more money to buy gifts for his children, but the
Speaker 1: people in your community do. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And when
Speaker 1: you're shopping at local thrift stores, usually their nonprofits, which
Speaker 1: is supporting some of the nonprofits within your community. So
Speaker 1: it's like a win win where you're practically donating to
Speaker 1: them while also getting some of the things that you
Speaker 1: need and helping you in your own generosity. My goodness,
Speaker 1: we're only on the second reason. We're gonna jump to
Speaker 1: the fourth reason though, we're not going to go through
Speaker 1: all eight on here. But secondhand gifting is more affordable.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just pretty obvious. I think one of
Speaker 1: these articles mentioned that she started tracking how much she
Speaker 1: was spending on her gifts that she was buying at
Speaker 1: second hand stores versus what she would have spent on
Speaker 1: that item new, and it ranged anywhere from fifty six
Speaker 1: to nine six percent off of what the new the
Speaker 1: new items cost would have been. And that's massive, even
Speaker 1: when we talk about I know, we did a couponing episode,
Speaker 1: like the most you can expect to save on a
Speaker 1: new item is like ten to fifteen if you're lucky. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So if you're talking fifty six to nine six percent
Speaker 1: off of what the new item would have been, my goodness,
Speaker 1: that's steep discounts. But also what it means is that
Speaker 1: we can still buy high quality. I mean I have
Speaker 1: rarely been to a thrift store where I couldn't find
Speaker 1: multiple things of high quality. Certainly, you know, there are
Speaker 1: things that you're not going to want or you don't
Speaker 1: even need, but you can find brand new stuff at
Speaker 1: drift stores or second hand places you can find gently used,
Speaker 1: hardly can tell anyone ever used it, and people just
Speaker 1: didn't have a value for trying to resell it, so
Speaker 1: they don'tated to the thrift store. I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: it's more affordable. And and then that means that you
Speaker 1: can get nicer stuff than maybe what you even could
Speaker 1: have bought new, which is really I think valuable as
Speaker 1: far as a gift giving scenario goes, that you could
Speaker 1: give somebody something nicer than if you had bought new. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I will do this again, Facebook, Marketplace, maybe small appliances.
Speaker 1: We got my mother in law, like a really nice
Speaker 1: flick massage or one year which was like half the price,
Speaker 1: and if we bought it new, And and some of
Speaker 1: this stuff is just people bought it, they used it
Speaker 1: once or twice, did it wasn't for them, but they
Speaker 1: couldn't return it, like I see that so often. I
Speaker 1: just got a rug for our rental. They sent her
Speaker 1: the wrong rug, said keep it, it's more expensive to
Speaker 1: ship it back, and we'll just send you the correct rug.
Speaker 1: And she made money. We got a discount and it
Speaker 1: was a brand new, unopened drug. Well, and especially when
Speaker 1: we live in such an age where we are obsessed
Speaker 1: with nostalgia. This is really working in our favor because
Speaker 1: everybody wants the old toys and games that US millennials
Speaker 1: grew up playing with. It's like coming back around full
Speaker 1: circle and these things you can find at the thrift store,
Speaker 1: the old board games, the old toys, the old you
Speaker 1: name it, video games, clothing styles, all of it. So
Speaker 1: it's like, why by the updated version that the company
Speaker 1: is putting out when you can just find the actual,
Speaker 1: true vintage, nostalgic version at the thrift store. And if
Speaker 1: you can't find it at the thrift store, then you
Speaker 1: can certainly find it on eBay and it will be
Speaker 1: a little more expensive than the thrift store, but it
Speaker 1: will be less expensive than buying the new version for sure,
Speaker 1: depending on how vintage you want to go. But again,
Speaker 1: eBay is also a place where I go if I
Speaker 1: want a good brand name or threat up if it's
Speaker 1: like fash and like, my purse is Mark Jacobs, and
Speaker 1: I would have never bought a brand new Mark Jacob's purse.
Speaker 1: But my last purse was not great quality. It fell
Speaker 1: apart really quickly, and I was like, I'm getting a
Speaker 1: very good quality purse and I'm just gonna do it.
Speaker 1: And you can do that when you are buying like
Speaker 1: quality designer secondhand, you know it's gonna last. So yes,
Speaker 1: threat up is great, eBay Marketplace love it. Next number five,
Speaker 1: secondhand gifts reduce carbon emissions. So if you're somebody who
Speaker 1: really values sustainability highly, we don't have to obviously convince
Speaker 1: you the secondhand gifting is great. But it can reduce
Speaker 1: carbon emissions in a variety of ways so that you
Speaker 1: may not have known so from obviously for manufacturing of
Speaker 1: new products um that would otherwise fill those needs. Second
Speaker 1: on the transportation of the new products from China or
Speaker 1: Cambodia or wherever they're coming from. And they decrease carbon
Speaker 1: emissions from landfills because fewer products end up in the
Speaker 1: trash to release greenhouse gases. So there's three major ways
Speaker 1: that's buying second hand can reduce carbon emissions. And it
Speaker 1: is you don't think about it, but everything's going to
Speaker 1: end up in the landfill one day, everything, So let's
Speaker 1: let's just try and you pay for those landfills. You
Speaker 1: you do pay for them, whether you know it or not.
Speaker 1: So let's let's keep our city from having to make
Speaker 1: one more landfill. Let's just make that our goal. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: or we can reduce the amount that ends up in
Speaker 1: a landfill if we're not demanding more things be made.
Speaker 1: Oh I love This is the last one I'm going
Speaker 1: to read off of this list, but number six, which
Speaker 1: I love. Second Hand gifts can be really unique, and
Speaker 1: this has been my experience as well. You are not
Speaker 1: going to a store where there's multiple items of the
Speaker 1: same thing that are all brand new. You're finding things
Speaker 1: from other people's homes that they're passing along and there's
Speaker 1: most likely not going to be multiple of that one item,
Speaker 1: which means that there can be a higher level of
Speaker 1: creativity and personalization for gift giving. When you're going second hand,
Speaker 1: you can find some really amazing one of a kind,
Speaker 1: whether it's a vintage item or something really specific to
Speaker 1: that person, you can find really amazing stuff. And as
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about this, even just reading through this article,
Speaker 1: some of the best gifts I've received our second hand
Speaker 1: where gifts that were I mean, my my engagement ring
Speaker 1: is from a consignment store. I don't know who previously
Speaker 1: owned it, but it's a nineteen twenties antique wedding engagement
Speaker 1: ring and I love it, and all of my other
Speaker 1: favorite jewel was passed down from my grandmother to my
Speaker 1: mom to me, like, these are the things that that
Speaker 1: I love And then you know, of course, yeah, whether
Speaker 1: you're getting it from family. And because that's also second hand,
Speaker 1: let's remember like we don't always have to pay for secondhand.
Speaker 1: Second hand might be something we already have in our
Speaker 1: homes that we can identify a friend or family member
Speaker 1: who might appreciate and enjoy it more, might be more
Speaker 1: fitting for their their lifestyle right now. Heirloom items are
Speaker 1: second hand and usually carry so much meaning to it.
Speaker 1: So these these types of things, especially at a time
Speaker 1: this year where a lot of us can feel the
Speaker 1: pinch in our wallets of what's happening in the economy,
Speaker 1: we can go meaningful and that could be way better
Speaker 1: than even what previous years have been when we felt
Speaker 1: a little bit more fat or wallets buying brand new stuff.
Speaker 1: But where's that stuff now? And what have we kept
Speaker 1: what actually holds meaning to us? Absolutely, So this last
Speaker 1: one that I'm going to talk about is one that
Speaker 1: I feel specifically like connected to, and it's that second
Speaker 1: hand gifting limits the support of exploitative consumption systems. And
Speaker 1: so we say frugality is being a good steward of
Speaker 1: all your resources. That frugal is stewardship, and cheap is
Speaker 1: manipulation and exploitative. And when we are buying new things
Speaker 1: that are fast fashion, fast produced, then we are supporting
Speaker 1: some of these exploitative systems. Uh And when we opt out,
Speaker 1: then we are telling retailers that we no longer support
Speaker 1: the systems they are using to create cheap stuff. Uh.
Speaker 1: So most consumption systems that feed are purchasing habits, use
Speaker 1: labor for marginalized communities that are paying menial wages, work
Speaker 1: in terrible conditions, but it's really all they have. It's
Speaker 1: better than nothing. So it's not that we want it
Speaker 1: taken away. It's that we want to put pressure on
Speaker 1: companies to do better for people. And we can't do
Speaker 1: that if we say I want more and more and more,
Speaker 1: because they're going to give us what we want, and
Speaker 1: they will ramp up the production of new stuff in
Speaker 1: concordance with what we're buying and the prices that we
Speaker 1: will pay, and that is what leads to these terrible conditions.
Speaker 1: Menial wages in in these marginalized countries. So when we
Speaker 1: opt out and shoe second hand, the only thing companies
Speaker 1: listen to is money, and we're telling them by withholding
Speaker 1: our money that we don't support those practices. Okay, are
Speaker 1: you convinced? Are you as passionate about second hand gifting
Speaker 1: as we are? Goodness? I mean, I feel so ramped up.
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to hit the thrift store for my
Speaker 1: Christmas shopping before you do. Before you do, let's talk
Speaker 1: about ten tips on giving second hand Christmas gives that
Speaker 1: people will love. Right exactly. So now we're convinced this
Speaker 1: is the way to go, So let's talk about the
Speaker 1: potential barriers that people still might bump against in why
Speaker 1: they might do this and how to do it well
Speaker 1: for people. So one of one of the biggest pushbacks,
Speaker 1: and this is listed on this article called minimize My
Speaker 1: Mess and talking about tips on giving secondhand Christmas gifts
Speaker 1: that people will love. There's another portion of the article
Speaker 1: that's very similar to the first article that we read,
Speaker 1: but we're looking at the second half and the first reason,
Speaker 1: and I would say the one that we hear most
Speaker 1: often is what if I offend someone by giving them
Speaker 1: a second hand Christmas gift and yeah, that that's a
Speaker 1: that's a real thing. It's worth considering. Not everybody is
Speaker 1: going to be he has gung ho about getting something
Speaker 1: that's been used before. You know your audience. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: read the room. Now here's the thing. There's just general
Speaker 1: standards across the board, like don't give gross stuff, don't
Speaker 1: get anybody shirts with holes yourself, including don't give don't
Speaker 1: give yourself those things. Do you deserve better? Yeah? Jen
Speaker 1: speaking of a shirt she's currently wearing that has holes
Speaker 1: in it, and she knows it has holes in it.
Speaker 1: She got its second hand, but she's not getting rid
Speaker 1: of it until she gets rid of the baby that's
Speaker 1: growing outside of her clothing options. We've talked about this.
Speaker 1: We're not going to get best. So, so here's the thing.
Speaker 1: What if I offend someone and I love the advice
Speaker 1: that this article gives of, just ask them there you
Speaker 1: get away? Can that just totally lets the air out
Speaker 1: of the room. I hate talking to people, Well, then
Speaker 1: she might not be getting Christmas give them a gift.
Speaker 1: What if I've never spoken to them at work? Am
Speaker 1: I still obligated to give them a No? The answer
Speaker 1: is no, So if you're in casual conversation ahead of time,
Speaker 1: this can be some proactive work of hey, what do
Speaker 1: you think of secondhand gifts? If they're really great and
Speaker 1: they could either say no way, it must come in
Speaker 1: a plastic or cardboard box with a brand new sticker
Speaker 1: on it, or they're gonna be like, yes, I would
Speaker 1: love that. That sounds like a great idea. There's plenty
Speaker 1: of great stuff you can find used. Then okay, you
Speaker 1: have your answer. Now maybe alternative or unpopular opinion that
Speaker 1: I'm going to say that's not in this article is
Speaker 1: there have been times that I gave secondhand gifts and
Speaker 1: didn't tell people. I don't think you always have to
Speaker 1: tell people. First of all, I'm not giving people coal
Speaker 1: or junk or something like or something that smells. And
Speaker 1: none of us should be getting this is my personal standard.
Speaker 1: We should not be adding our underwear or our mattresses
Speaker 1: from the throat store. You and I have different opinions mattresses. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't get mattresses from the store. I get them
Speaker 1: from Facebook marketplace, and you did vet them, so like,
Speaker 1: that's okay, you're a little bit on the edge. You
Speaker 1: were living on the edge, not totally a decision I
Speaker 1: would make. But don't give somebody something that is generally
Speaker 1: accepted to be something that you shouldn't buy used, like underwear.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. Uh, it might be weird in
Speaker 1: general to give a friend underwear for Christmas, so think
Speaker 1: about that. For instance. I you know me, I've loved
Speaker 1: to give plants to people as gifts. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: have gotten used pottery and put a plant into that
Speaker 1: used putter. I don't got to tell people that I
Speaker 1: didn't get that pot from loser Home deepot, and they're
Speaker 1: probably more thrilled with it because, like the other article said,
Speaker 1: it's more unique. I have found really beautiful things within
Speaker 1: that category at thrift stores that I think people are
Speaker 1: more pleased with than if it were to have been
Speaker 1: new from some big box store. You don't have to
Speaker 1: convert people to your agenda. You just have to be
Speaker 1: true to your values. And if you have a family
Speaker 1: member that's going to talk about you behind your back
Speaker 1: all year for giving them a non like new gift,
Speaker 1: then don't do It's not work and don't do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is not worth the stress. Get him a popcorn tin,
Speaker 1: it's fine, Or give them money so you don't have
Speaker 1: to feel or SMS or what they bought with it.
Speaker 1: Cash is king. Okay, moving on number four. We're both
Speaker 1: going to talk about number four because it's where to shop,
Speaker 1: the best places to shop, and I am going to
Speaker 1: cover the in person places. So in person places obviously
Speaker 1: you know a thrift store. Obviously you know Facebook, Marketplace, UM,
Speaker 1: buy nothing group. This is a good time to babysit
Speaker 1: here buy nothing group. In the weeks leading up to Christmas,
Speaker 1: people are getting rid of stuff to make room for
Speaker 1: new stuff. It's a good time to be on marketplace
Speaker 1: and you buy nothing group. Okay, So we've also got
Speaker 1: like Facebook communities, just like local mom groups, local whatever
Speaker 1: groups that could be posting things lesser known places. Pawn shops.
Speaker 1: Pawn shops are really great places, especially for jewelry. Like
Speaker 1: Jill got her engagement ring from a because signment store.
Speaker 1: I got mine from a pawn shop and it's beautiful.
Speaker 1: I love it. So that's a great place for jewelry
Speaker 1: and other maybe high value stuff. Consignment stores. They're not
Speaker 1: just fancy clothes for old people. There are tons, right,
Speaker 1: you know, you know that's what it has been before,
Speaker 1: and that maybe the stigma. You're listening and thinking, I
Speaker 1: don't have any old people that I want to get
Speaker 1: clothing for. Nay, I say, nay, it has a lot
Speaker 1: of people, especially children. Consignment stores. Oh yes, all the clothes,
Speaker 1: all the toys really good and they're What I found
Speaker 1: with consignment stores is that usually they're a little bit
Speaker 1: more choosy about what they're going to allow into their
Speaker 1: store because that consignment stores, the thing that sets them
Speaker 1: apart from thrift stores is that they share their profits
Speaker 1: with the person who's selling it, so they are definitely
Speaker 1: more critical about what's going to be on their shelves.
Speaker 1: The person truly believes that it has enough value to
Speaker 1: not only make them a little bit of money, but
Speaker 1: also the store a little bit of money. So you
Speaker 1: might pay a little bit higher of a ticket price.
Speaker 1: It's going to be less than brand new. But this
Speaker 1: is especially where you're gonna find your really great toys
Speaker 1: for kids, maybe some nicer clothes thing, and especially jewelry.
Speaker 1: I think this is a great if we had any
Speaker 1: listeners who are trying to buy jewelry this year, I
Speaker 1: found some awesome consignment stores is where I do well
Speaker 1: with that kind of thing that the real stuff, the
Speaker 1: real treasure. But but yeah, and it's it's curated stuff,
Speaker 1: so it saves you time as well. There's not as
Speaker 1: much to look through like a thrift store is, so
Speaker 1: if you are short on time, consignment stores, pawn shops
Speaker 1: even yeah, so these are and then we've got your
Speaker 1: garage and yard sales. If you're in the South, it's
Speaker 1: starting to be yard sales baby. Uh So these are
Speaker 1: antique stores. These are kind of your in person places
Speaker 1: to shop. They're all great and as far as online goes,
Speaker 1: some of these crossover both. Right You're you're buying nothing
Speaker 1: groups your Facebook market place. This is both online and
Speaker 1: in person. But for fully online, especially for things like
Speaker 1: clothing and accessories and purses and shoes, you've got your
Speaker 1: poshmark thread up Marcari. Again, it's I would say similar
Speaker 1: pricing to more your like consignment store pricing. People are
Speaker 1: trying to get a little bit of higher price point
Speaker 1: than maybe just a thrift store. Still less than brand
Speaker 1: new and usually very good stuff, gently used, hardly ever
Speaker 1: used sometimes new tags on them, so great spot for
Speaker 1: that category. eBay is really great. You use it a
Speaker 1: lot more than I do, but it is excellent for
Speaker 1: all kinds of things, whether you're getting dishwear to like vehicles.
Speaker 1: eBay is a really great spot, and I would say
Speaker 1: to for electronics, that would be a great spot to
Speaker 1: go to have a really great buyer protection policy so
Speaker 1: you can feel a little bit more confident. I don't
Speaker 1: think I've ever purchased electronics from there, but definitely when
Speaker 1: I'm looking for a certain brand um a certain item,
Speaker 1: I have a lot of success on eBay, and I
Speaker 1: can find the same item like on posh marker threat
Speaker 1: up and it's a little more expensive there. I save
Speaker 1: a little bit more in eBay and get cash back
Speaker 1: from racket in Frugal Friends podcast, dot com slash racket in.
Speaker 1: I love that it works with so many things. All
Speaker 1: right there you go, okay, go okay, go in peace.
Speaker 1: So the final thing on this article for me is
Speaker 1: number eight that as we give second hand gifts, I
Speaker 1: think it can also take off a little bit of
Speaker 1: pressure in the expectation for the recipient. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you've ever experienced this gen well, the number eight
Speaker 1: says like, let the recipient know that they can pass
Speaker 1: their gift on whenever they no longer have used for it.
Speaker 1: I think this is another really great thing when it
Speaker 1: comes to second hand because a lot of times when
Speaker 1: we've spent a ton of money or we've bought something
Speaker 1: brand new, we give it to somebody, there can be
Speaker 1: this unspoken expectation for the recipient, like you must keep
Speaker 1: this always and forever and use it and better I
Speaker 1: better be able to see it when it's out at
Speaker 1: your house. Only your mom does that, I know, But
Speaker 1: not your mom specifically, like them you listening, yeah, mom, Yeah,
Speaker 1: But I think it can And whether or not you
Speaker 1: the giver are saying this, I think it can be
Speaker 1: a pressure that a recipient can feel. But when we're
Speaker 1: giving a secondhand gift to already say, look, this item
Speaker 1: is already getting more life out of it than anyone
Speaker 1: would have expected. So when you no longer this no
Speaker 1: longer fits for you, pass it on. Give that thing
Speaker 1: more life. So there's just kind of like a mindset
Speaker 1: and a permission attached to that, a greater freedom and
Speaker 1: flexibility in the whole gift giving exchange process. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: really becomes the thought that counts. Like that's true. It
Speaker 1: genuinely it's the thought that counts, Not just arra got
Speaker 1: you this plastic thing that was on a Doorbuster deal
Speaker 1: on Black Friday. I really thought about it. No, it's
Speaker 1: it's secondhand. You like actually had to think about it.
Speaker 1: So that kind of brings to the last one I'll
Speaker 1: talk about is number nine. Challenge yourself to shop secondhand
Speaker 1: at other times of the year too. I think when
Speaker 1: we are doing a lot of shopping this time of year,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of consumerism. I think this can be
Speaker 1: a really good like challenge to Okay, let's see how
Speaker 1: much second hand gifting I can do this year, and
Speaker 1: then build up your muscles and your creativity and you're
Speaker 1: planning to do second hand shopping the rest of the
Speaker 1: year so that when we get to next Christmas holiday season,
Speaker 1: we can do even more secondhand gifting and we're more prepared.
Speaker 1: I know Number six on here was to give yourself
Speaker 1: extra time. So this is somewhere something where like now
Speaker 1: you can start with the with the looking, it's not
Speaker 1: going to be as effective if you're waiting till the
Speaker 1: last minute. That's how anybody spends more, especially with secondhand
Speaker 1: You're not going to have the time to find what
Speaker 1: you need if you're doing it at the last minute.
Speaker 1: So challenge yourself to start now and then let it
Speaker 1: carry on through the rest of the year to not
Speaker 1: just gifts, but things you need regularly, to build a
Speaker 1: habit of choosing secondhand first. That was a tip that
Speaker 1: I do appreciate it. I didn't really want to blow
Speaker 1: past either. Is that the idea of keeping a running
Speaker 1: list on our phone of ideas gift ideas that we
Speaker 1: have the people that we know we're going to be
Speaker 1: buying for, and that help us to be on top
Speaker 1: of things and make the second hand gift giving possible
Speaker 1: because it's not as if I can go to the
Speaker 1: thrift store and find everything I need. It is uh
Speaker 1: practice and patience checking out multiple different thrift stores, holding
Speaker 1: out looking online on some of these sites that we've
Speaker 1: already talked about. So having that running list can be
Speaker 1: really helpful when we do find ourselves at a thrift store.
Speaker 1: Oh what can I be looking for? That's gonna be
Speaker 1: really meaningful? So I love that idea. I think this
Speaker 1: one will particularly come into in handy for next year,
Speaker 1: absolutely well. Something that comes in handy all the time.
Speaker 1: We don't have to wait for a year, and we
Speaker 1: don't need to keep a running list in our phone,
Speaker 1: but we can use our phone already built up this
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Speaker 1: I was told that I could apply to the Tennessee
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Speaker 1: a week after payment is due for the semester. But
Speaker 1: I did my own research and found out that actually
Speaker 1: it's students who would be three or older by January
Speaker 1: one of the academic year. So I applied and I
Speaker 1: got it, And I also got a scholarship for being
Speaker 1: in my school's community service group. And so my tuition
Speaker 1: bill went from two thousand and three hundred and eighty
Speaker 1: four dollars two hundred and nineteen dollars two negative five
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty dollars and sixty five cents. I'm putting
Speaker 1: all the money that I saved on tuition into a
Speaker 1: three year certificate of deposit so that I'll have those
Speaker 1: extra funds for my final year of college. Lloyd, Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, I wish I was as responsible as you. Three,
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Speaker 1: well Downlowering your tuition feels like I know that there's
Speaker 1: not a hierarchy when it comes to bills, but it
Speaker 1: kind of feels like there is where like tuition bills
Speaker 1: and what we pay for our education feels like weightier
Speaker 1: than other bills, usually because it represents a lot of
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I was so so excited for you.
Speaker 1: Well done celebrating with you. You've got a good head
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Speaker 1: We leave us your bill and now it's time for round.
Speaker 1: I am so excited for this one. Thank you Goldie
Speaker 1: for our lightning round question today. Oh my gosh, we
Speaker 1: have a very similar one. Stopic gosh um. Okay, our
Speaker 1: morphing into the same person might be, but we are
Speaker 1: still very different. I am still wearing a shirt with
Speaker 1: a whole of it, and I'm still wearing a sweater.
Speaker 1: You're wearing a tank top, and I'm wearing multiple sweaters
Speaker 1: and sweaters. So today's question is a secondhand item you'd
Speaker 1: love to receive. We are going it out into the universe.
Speaker 1: Our Christmas list. I've got more than one, actually list
Speaker 1: from all off. Maybe I mean you, maybe a Christian
Speaker 1: or editor could relay these things to Eric and he
Speaker 1: can surprise you with them. You can't afford these things,
Speaker 1: can't afford me awful treasure. He can only afford half treasures. Wow, okay, Jill,
Speaker 1: you go first. So I'm not a hundred percent sure
Speaker 1: what this is, but I love it. I'm curious. Thought
Speaker 1: it was so like an expression machine and express machine.
Speaker 1: Oh that'd be funny. I wouldn't express myself through this.
Speaker 1: It was really well. I knew it was similar to mine.
Speaker 1: So I was like, when is this new coffee contraption?
Speaker 1: How I would love to get a very high end
Speaker 1: espresso machine second hand? Second hand. I check Facebook Marketplace
Speaker 1: about every other month for this type of contraption. They
Speaker 1: do exist, It just is usually still within the price
Speaker 1: range of like five hundred dollars, which might be something
Speaker 1: that I spend at some point, just like not right now,
Speaker 1: because I'm still in the middle of renovations, but I
Speaker 1: still do check. I I would love to be able
Speaker 1: to make cappuccino at home for myself. And I did
Speaker 1: have like a lower end kind of espresso machine and
Speaker 1: milk steamer, and it was awesome. It wasn't super high end,
Speaker 1: so I feel like I kind of could taste the difference,
Speaker 1: and then well, really it took up a ton of
Speaker 1: space on our counter in our kitchen. That was a
Speaker 1: dumpster fire that we couldn't fit it anymore. And it
Speaker 1: was a friend had given it to me, so it
Speaker 1: was second hand, but then I just gave it back
Speaker 1: to her and she was pleased for that. So an
Speaker 1: espresso machine, if anyone out there wants to gift that
Speaker 1: to me second hand or knows where I can get
Speaker 1: one for a good price. I also have my sights
Speaker 1: on like a floor steam cleaner. I have seen them
Speaker 1: at the thrift store, but then I've looked up the
Speaker 1: reviews and there's like three of the same exact kind
Speaker 1: at one of the thrift stores I went to, which
Speaker 1: tells me maybe that item that brand doesn't work that
Speaker 1: well if three separate people have put it in the
Speaker 1: thrift store. But I have high gloss floor tile, which
Speaker 1: looks amazing, but it gets really smudgy easily, and it's
Speaker 1: it's hard to get chiny again. And regular mopping leaves
Speaker 1: streaks on the ground. It's been a it's been a
Speaker 1: real challenge. I won't take up too much of your
Speaker 1: time talking about that, but I see a steam cleaner
Speaker 1: from my floor is going to do the trick. But
Speaker 1: I don't want to pay full price to find out.
Speaker 1: I wait, where is Jeremy. I haven't seen Jeremy. Jeremy's
Speaker 1: Jeremy's still here. Jermy's alive and well. Jeremy cleans my
Speaker 1: floors every other day, so having set to go him Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Jeremy,
Speaker 1: for those of you listening, is my robot vacuum and
Speaker 1: it is okay, So yeah, tomorrow Jeremy will clean and
Speaker 1: that's great. Picks up all all the dust and dirt,
Speaker 1: but doesn't like mop the floor. You know they have
Speaker 1: mops now, I know. I know. I think though, what
Speaker 1: you need to do, because I've done a lottery starch
Speaker 1: on this is the water needs to be very hot
Speaker 1: so that it evaporates quickly, because that's always the thing
Speaker 1: is like it leaves water like residue. You have large
Speaker 1: tiles that are very shiny. Yeah. And the other thing
Speaker 1: is that they're saying you should use distilled water. You
Speaker 1: haven't tried that, because I'm like, am I really going
Speaker 1: to be buying distilled water just to clean my floors?
Speaker 1: And maybe maybe I value that cleans our house requires
Speaker 1: because there's minerals and your other types of water and
Speaker 1: that's what also leaves some of that. That's why I
Speaker 1: fired her. Some people say you can get distilled water
Speaker 1: from your washing machine, like your washing machine, I don't know.
Speaker 1: That was a video I watched from somebody in the UK.
Speaker 1: So maybe there's stuff works differently than our stuff. But
Speaker 1: I'm like, how what I wouldn't know? Yeah, me neither. Okay, okay, alright,
Speaker 1: what do you want secondhand? Okay? So I have been
Speaker 1: struggling this whole pregnancy. My taste for coffee has changed,
Speaker 1: So I during six months of the year will only
Speaker 1: drink like instant coffee, like iced uh. And that went
Speaker 1: away very quickly. It just I lost my taste for it.
Speaker 1: And then I tried to make a cup of coffee
Speaker 1: with my coffee maker and that was a fail. That
Speaker 1: also tasted gross. So I have been since July, either
Speaker 1: buying cappuccinos at coffee shops or coming over to Jill's
Speaker 1: house and drinking her coffee. Is it is? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't even ask you. It's palatable. Absolutely like it.
Speaker 1: So that's why I either need to get the full
Speaker 1: setup that you have, or because I'm lazy, get an
Speaker 1: espresso secondhand. Do you think then espresso would do it
Speaker 1: for you? You think you'd like So I have had
Speaker 1: an espresso before, and it was when I was pregnant,
Speaker 1: and I did really like it. But I also didn't
Speaker 1: have the disdain for coffee that I have now. Um,
Speaker 1: but your coffee that you make me, Jill, is fantastic.
Speaker 1: The coffee we had Nashville, which was French Press, also fantastic.
Speaker 1: So I think I just I am skeptical about my
Speaker 1: abilities to recreate coffee that doesn't come out of a
Speaker 1: coffee maker. So I am open to options. You've got
Speaker 1: a good coffee maker. I wonder if it's the grounds
Speaker 1: you use. It could also be that maybe I need
Speaker 1: better grounds. Here's what we should do. I should come
Speaker 1: over to your house with my coffee grounds and try
Speaker 1: your coffee makers if you like it. We're digressing, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean essentially our dreams of secondhand items. We'd love
Speaker 1: to receive centers around coffee. Basically, I don't want secondhand
Speaker 1: coffee beans. That would be the only thing we need
Speaker 1: first hand. Yeah, well, I mean you'll take my coffee?
Speaker 1: Is that second hand? I guess yeah, we will both
Speaker 1: partake in it together, it's true. Um, And I also
Speaker 1: I would like a room, but I would like, uh,
Speaker 1: I kind of a top of the line one. So
Speaker 1: we found we got a dyce in that was top
Speaker 1: of the line when we bought it, but we got
Speaker 1: it from eBay, and so that's how we kind of
Speaker 1: do those things. Now is a great time because they
Speaker 1: they've gotten better and better, and as they're coming out
Speaker 1: with newer versions, I think people are more apt to
Speaker 1: get rid of their older versions, where that might not
Speaker 1: have been much of an option a few years ago.
Speaker 1: So yeah, check it out. I love ours. It's great.
Speaker 1: When we put down our floors. We couldn't do it
Speaker 1: in our last house because we had like tripped like
Speaker 1: three levels, like three step downs, so it would have
Speaker 1: only gotten one room. But now it will be able
Speaker 1: to get the whole house. Because it's all on one level,
Speaker 1: all all of the rooms except for our bedroom, which
Speaker 1: does have a step down. So those, uh, those are things.
Speaker 1: So if you want to send us your five espresso machine,
Speaker 1: you're an espresso or steam cleaner or your unused root
Speaker 1: us so old. This is what we prioritize, coffee and
Speaker 1: cleaning products. No, that's where we're at. We are thirty
Speaker 1: three years old. I asked for a Dyson for my
Speaker 1: lasts not even my last birthday was like three years ago. No,
Speaker 1: and that used to horrify me, and I avoided those
Speaker 1: types of gifts just out of pride and principle, and
Speaker 1: now I've just embraced it. This is where I'm at.
Speaker 1: I think I lost it when I married Travis because
Speaker 1: I said no Crocs and then I married Travis, who
Speaker 1: wears Crocs, and I was like, well, I've lost like everything.
Speaker 1: I've won the husband game, but I've lost everything else
Speaker 1: won a husband? You won? Yeah? One and a half children? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's a and I really lost it when I
Speaker 1: had kids. Anyways. Anyhow, thank you all for listening. This
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Speaker 1: What do you think is Travis's biggest hope for what
Speaker 1: he would get secondhand? Everything in his life? He would eat, heat,
Speaker 1: will would and does eat. I can hand a food
Speaker 1: that's um, anything and everything, honestly, I yeah, anything he
Speaker 1: wants he wants a secondhand, which is great. I love
Speaker 1: that about him and he gets me secondhand stuff and
Speaker 1: I love that he's very good at it. Um. I
Speaker 1: can't I don't really know what he wants right now.
Speaker 1: He wants to finish the rental because I want to
Speaker 1: finish the rental. We want that together, all of us
Speaker 1: want that. Yeah, um, but yeah, he just got some
Speaker 1: disc golf stuff. He wanted a boomerang that he saw
Speaker 1: at a yard sale the other day. I talked about
Speaker 1: of that. I that just brought back a memory for me.
Speaker 1: I feel like there was a time when we went
Speaker 1: through there were multiple times that we've gone thrift store
Speaker 1: shopping together, like as a couple activity, and there was
Speaker 1: a boomerang he checked out. Then this would have been
Speaker 1: years ago, but before we moved here, and potentially before
Speaker 1: we even lived here in our trailer, and he was
Speaker 1: he almost bought a boomerang. I so he loves Frisbees
Speaker 1: and those go forward and boomerang. I can just see
Speaker 1: coming back and hitting our son in the face or
Speaker 1: worse our window. You know, not if you're good at it.
Speaker 1: I mean, but surely Kai will throw it. He is
Speaker 1: not good at it, so we have more hands to think.
Speaker 1: I'm sure Travis will be fine at it. He's good
Speaker 1: at everything. But I just don't want it in my house.
Speaker 1: I mean, with a frisbee that could still hit Kai
Speaker 1: in the face and break a window if you throw
Speaker 1: it at the window or the child. Um, if you
Speaker 1: throw a boomerang any which way, you don't know where
Speaker 1: it's going to come up. Have you seen the Pepper
Speaker 1: Pig episode where they go to Australia and everybody throws
Speaker 1: the boomerang and it just it's Mr Wallaby's house, like
Speaker 1: every single one of his windows every time they throw
Speaker 1: the boomerang. Okay, So that's what has major decision. He's
Speaker 1: never gonna get a boomerang. I've seen that. I've seen
Speaker 1: that clip so many times. I feel like it's a sign.
Speaker 1: And now we will never own a boomerang because of
Speaker 1: Pepper Pig. I respect that. Yeah, does Eric still want
Speaker 1: an indoor water feature? Oh my gosh, Yes, that's never
Speaker 1: gonna go away. And he always wants something. The one
Speaker 1: thing that I think we're gonna have the best luck secondhand,
Speaker 1: that we've been on the lookout for for years and
Speaker 1: years is like a kind of like a piece of furniture,
Speaker 1: like a storage organization thing. We've seen them before but
Speaker 1: haven't never been able to pull the trigger on them.
Speaker 1: But essentially like metal drawers, like small compartments of drawers
Speaker 1: that he wants to be able to put his microphones into,
Speaker 1: but could also be kind of like a cool piece
Speaker 1: as well um form and function. Yeah, like if you
Speaker 1: kind of think like old library card catalogs, or like
Speaker 1: old warehouse or mechanics tool bench that was well taken
Speaker 1: care of, that has like you know, you're a little
Speaker 1: kind of like four by four drawers or slots, and
Speaker 1: he hads something like that for his microphone storage. So
Speaker 1: I'm on the lookout if you have any library pure storage. Ben.
Speaker 1: The thing is is a lot of that type of
Speaker 1: stuff does exist at like antique stores and throw stores
Speaker 1: up north, But now that we're in the South, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: how we're going to get that to us? I can't
Speaker 1: go shopping up there anymore. We don't. We don't throw
Speaker 1: stuff like that a way. We treasure it exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: antiques aren't aren't as huge of a thing down here
Speaker 1: as they are up north. It's yeah, few and far between.
Speaker 1: That's okay. We'll survive as long as we get our
Speaker 1: coffee machines and are cleaning much more important