WEBVTT - The Cycle: Ronel Blanco, Statcast Swing Data, Trade Targets & Prospects With Chris Welsh (Ep. 8)

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everybody, Welcome into the cycle.

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<v Speaker 2>Later in the show, I have a conversation with our

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<v Speaker 2>friend and colleague Chris Welsh. We talk about Paul Skeins,

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<v Speaker 2>we talk about Christian Scott, we talk about Jackson Holliday,

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<v Speaker 2>we talk about Jason Demingez. We'll talk about some other

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<v Speaker 2>prospects to stash now that schemes is up. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good conversation so definitely check around that in the

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<v Speaker 2>second half of the show. Start off, as we always

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<v Speaker 2>do with rounding the bases.

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<v Speaker 1>Mayor.

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<v Speaker 2>I was playing softball last night and then I saw

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<v Speaker 2>a message from you that said, well, I guess we

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<v Speaker 2>need to talk about Ronelle Blanco on tomorrow's show. And

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<v Speaker 2>I said why in my head, and I went and

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<v Speaker 2>looked it up. I was like, did he get hurt?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, did he get shelled? Turns out he's been cheating.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I say that kind of tongue and cheek.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, not entirely clear. He has been suspended for

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<v Speaker 2>ten days by Major League Baseball. They found substance on

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<v Speaker 2>his arm and it was checked and he was out

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<v Speaker 2>of the game, and, like I said, now suspended. What's

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<v Speaker 2>really interesting in situations like this for me is less

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<v Speaker 2>looking backwards at you know, trying to figure out how

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<v Speaker 2>much of what he had done this season was related

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<v Speaker 2>to the cheating, intentional or otherwise or whatever, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like looking at spin rates and things like that. I

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<v Speaker 2>saw Welsh tweeting about this. Actually it's more about looking forward.

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<v Speaker 2>What do we expect out of him when he returns.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's kind of where I'm at. What was your

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<v Speaker 2>initial takeaway when you saw this and what are you

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about now a day later.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, my initial takeaway was, oh, no, he's my two

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<v Speaker 3>star pitcher against Ryan for this week, so I have

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<v Speaker 3>to I guess I'm going to automatically lose. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>one of the main reasons I initially messaged you. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, well, got to talk about this. What a

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<v Speaker 3>disaster for me. I've also I'm also someone who has

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<v Speaker 3>kind of not been high on renal bloca.

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<v Speaker 4>But like when he kind.

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<v Speaker 3>Of broke out and had just no hitter, we talked

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<v Speaker 3>about him, and I think most of the industry just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of agreed. You know, this is this is kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a fluke thing. It's not gonna last. He's going

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<v Speaker 3>to turn back into a pumpkin. And then he's where

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<v Speaker 3>eight starts in and the number. You know, there are

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<v Speaker 3>some obviously concerning underlying numbers, but you know, his actual

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<v Speaker 3>numbers continue to be really good, and there are some

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<v Speaker 3>some signs that, you know, like we talked about the

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<v Speaker 3>change up and you know that stuff. But now I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like I don't know anything. It's hard to know

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<v Speaker 3>what to believe.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like you said, has he been cheating all along?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, is this a one off thing? And you

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<v Speaker 3>know everyone is you know, I've seen everyone kind of

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<v Speaker 3>talking about the spin Rate's like nothing was noticeably different

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<v Speaker 3>in this start. Does that mean he wasn't really cheating?

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<v Speaker 3>Does it mean he's always been cheating? Like I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like I don't know what to believe now, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>like he already was kind of a cell high, and

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<v Speaker 3>now it's like, can you even you know, the CBS

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<v Speaker 3>guys were talking about this. Can you know he was

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<v Speaker 3>a cell high? But now can you is he now

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<v Speaker 3>a by low? Because maybe you just you know, someone's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they got to get out from underneath the

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<v Speaker 3>Renel Blanco. Maybe you can just get him for nothing,

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<v Speaker 3>or because they're concerned about this. You know, it's only

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<v Speaker 3>a short suspension, but it's like, you know, they're obviously

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we already had concerns and now no one

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<v Speaker 3>really can believe anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you this, I will buy low now emphasis

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<v Speaker 2>on low. It needs to be low, but I'll buy

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<v Speaker 2>low and say, listen to his era is like two

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<v Speaker 2>what is it two oh nine?

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<v Speaker 1>This season?

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<v Speaker 2>I know that, like you said, there's some underlying stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but almost a strikeout. And again, in the modern landscape

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<v Speaker 2>of pitching, like taking a chance that this was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like some fluke like mix of sweat or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm not going to pretend to sit here and say,

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<v Speaker 2>like I definitively know like what he was attending, what

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<v Speaker 2>was actually happening, et cetera, et cetera, and it might

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not not pan out. Maybe he has been

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<v Speaker 2>cheating all along and now he's going to turn back

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<v Speaker 2>into a pumpkin. Maybe he was always going to turn

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<v Speaker 2>back into a pumpkin because he's thirty years old, having

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<v Speaker 2>this late career breakout, and we just expect those guys

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<v Speaker 2>to regress.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But if I can truly buy low and get him

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<v Speaker 2>for like essentially nothing, which I don't think is possible everywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think it's definitely possible in some places, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>happy to do that and take that swing and say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, best case scenario, he comes back and he

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<v Speaker 2>is the guy that he has been the first month

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<v Speaker 2>and a half of the season, and it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like a key cog in my fantasy rotation.

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<v Speaker 1>Worst case I didn't give up much to get him.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you know, if you asked me, you know, buy, seller, hold,

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<v Speaker 2>the correct answer is probably hold. I would think I

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<v Speaker 2>would not be selling low. You obviously can't sell high

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<v Speaker 2>right now. I would not be selling low. I would

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<v Speaker 2>be buying low or holding if I already have him.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I would agree with that. I think you have

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<v Speaker 4>to hold and not sell low.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's if he comes back and stinks up

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<v Speaker 3>the place, you're gonna sell low or have to drop

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<v Speaker 3>him anyway. But there's not really much to gain by

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<v Speaker 3>selling low now. I do want to mention I saw A. J.

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<v Speaker 3>Pruzinski talking about this today and he had some pretty

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<v Speaker 3>strong feelings which I kind of agreed with. And he

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<v Speaker 3>just talked about the whole process of of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>flagging these pictures and how an umpire gonna be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's sticky stuff like throw and not only do you

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<v Speaker 3>throw them out of the game, he's automatically suspended for

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<v Speaker 3>ten games. And he was he was arguing, we have

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<v Speaker 3>the science to figure this out, like we can tell

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<v Speaker 3>if that was rosen or not, Like it's not hard,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like give us a swab and by tomorrow

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<v Speaker 3>morning we'll know if it was you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, we'll know what the substance is.

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<v Speaker 3>And he kind of made the case like you can

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<v Speaker 3>just have an umpire with a grudge against the pitcher,

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<v Speaker 3>and knowing what we know about these umpires and some

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<v Speaker 3>of their you know, opinions and attitudes and just general personalities,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not necessarily something that you know, is out of

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<v Speaker 3>the realm of possibility that someone could just like have

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<v Speaker 3>a grudge against someone and there's just no checks and balance.

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<v Speaker 4>As you just said, Yep, that's sticky stuff. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think it's sweat.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think you're cheating and you're out of

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<v Speaker 3>this game and ten games suspension. I thought that was

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<v Speaker 3>an interesting point, and I think I agree with him.

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<v Speaker 2>If you are waiting on public checks and balances for

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<v Speaker 2>Major League Baseball umpires, you're gonna be.

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<v Speaker 1>Waiting a long time.

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<v Speaker 4>That's fair.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll tell you that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's been one of the more interesting stories

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<v Speaker 2>of the start of the season. Like, like, obviously the

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<v Speaker 2>no hitter really like boosts the kind of profile around

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<v Speaker 2>a guy. But like to your point, he has been

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<v Speaker 2>really consistent since then too for a bad Astros team.

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<v Speaker 2>He he is four and oh for a team that

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<v Speaker 2>is not winning a lot of games, so it's pretty significant.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm really curious, really curious to see what he

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<v Speaker 2>looks like when he's back on the mound. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm happy to I won't be starting him that first

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<v Speaker 2>start back.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even care who he's facing.

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<v Speaker 2>He will not be he will be on my bench,

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<v Speaker 2>but I want him on my roster just just in case.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is kind of a fluke or again some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of incidental mixing of whatever, and that really really quickly,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you think about the hitters who said when

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<v Speaker 2>this offers started happening like that they kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>some of the sticky stuff just to make sure the

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<v Speaker 2>pitcher like had control over the ball and wasn't going

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<v Speaker 2>to be like you know, slipping around and throwing kind

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<v Speaker 2>of haphazardly.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think about that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, I mean it's a real I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to say pet peeve, but it really annoys me that

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<v Speaker 3>baseball changes the ball so much. And you've seen there

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<v Speaker 3>are other leagues, like I think the KBO does it

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<v Speaker 3>where they have like a pre tacked ball, like the

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<v Speaker 3>ball is already sticky, and I think everyone is kind

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<v Speaker 3>of with that you know, obviously hitters have to deal

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<v Speaker 3>with some better breaking pitches, but they're also not just

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<v Speaker 3>going to get you know, pitches in the side of

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<v Speaker 3>their neck because the slider doesn't slide kind of a thing,

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<v Speaker 3>and you don't have to worry about all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, there's also some argument to be made

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<v Speaker 3>that some of the sticky stuff is a result you know,

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<v Speaker 3>or lack they're like how slick the balls are is

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<v Speaker 3>resulting in some injuries. I forget if it was last

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<v Speaker 3>year of the year before we saw a ton of

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<v Speaker 3>pitchers start to go down with like blisters and stuff

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<v Speaker 3>that they were having trouble with the new baseballs. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think in the lower one of the lower minor

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<v Speaker 3>league levels where they kind of like start to experiment

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<v Speaker 3>with all these things, I think they're already using a

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<v Speaker 3>pre tacked ball. So I hope, you know, just for

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<v Speaker 3>the sake of the game, I hope they maybe bring

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<v Speaker 3>that to Major League Baseball and we get, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>less variance between baseballs and just kind of have a

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<v Speaker 3>pre tact ball that everyone you know is agreement that

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<v Speaker 3>you know, these work.

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<v Speaker 2>Next topic here, U stat Cast really interestingly released swing

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<v Speaker 2>tracking data.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is stuff like the.

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<v Speaker 2>That speed on the swing, the that length in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of how short the swing is, you know, how compact

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<v Speaker 2>it is versus how long it is. Stuff about the

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<v Speaker 2>number of blasts you have, which is kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>squaring up a ball but with a certain you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, exsit velocity slash bat speed. I haven't memorized

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<v Speaker 2>all the numbers yet, but it's that kind of thing

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<v Speaker 2>which is really interesting. You know. Obviously, every year it

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<v Speaker 2>seems like we're kind of learning more and more about

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<v Speaker 2>the game, and specifically getting more and more numbers about

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<v Speaker 2>the game, and you know, seeing like obviously, if you

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<v Speaker 2>and I were to sit down before we ever saw

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<v Speaker 2>a single one of these metrics and guess who do

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<v Speaker 2>you think has the fastest like that swing in baseball,

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<v Speaker 2>it would not have been long before we mentioned John

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<v Speaker 2>Carlos Stanton, and he's number one by a lot. He

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<v Speaker 2>is like a couple miles per hour ahead of the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of you know, anybody else in baseball. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>not really like one or two guys I want to

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<v Speaker 2>highlight here, if you want to, please go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to kind of ask.

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<v Speaker 2>Just your general takeaways. Were their names that stuck out

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<v Speaker 2>to you the application of this. Do you see a

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<v Speaker 2>use for fantasy managers? Do you see a use for

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<v Speaker 2>baseball managers? Is this just kind of a novelty fun

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<v Speaker 2>thing to look at. What was your reaction to a

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<v Speaker 2>seeing this, that this data exists, and be any particular

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<v Speaker 2>data points that sit out to you?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? So I kind of had a lot of takeaways.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't want to just talk forever and put

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<v Speaker 3>everyone to sleep, because it's probably what would happen if

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<v Speaker 3>you listen to me talk about swing tracking data for

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<v Speaker 3>ten minutes. But yeah, like you, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 3>go through through a ton of the names. It was

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<v Speaker 3>really interesting to see, you know, obviously John carol Stan.

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<v Speaker 4>Has the highest average bat speed.

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<v Speaker 3>I also thought it was really funny if you looked

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<v Speaker 3>at you know, they have things like average batspeed and

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<v Speaker 3>then also like your fast swing rate, like how often

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<v Speaker 3>your swing rate is above seventy five miles per hour

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<v Speaker 3>And he's at ninety eight percent so pretty much all

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<v Speaker 3>of his swings. And it also really made me laugh

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<v Speaker 3>just looking at like you know, you mentioned like the

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<v Speaker 3>squared up percentages in the blast, which is you know,

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<v Speaker 3>an interesting metric. I also thought It was really interesting

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<v Speaker 3>that they went with pitching Ninja, who invented this term swords,

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<v Speaker 3>where which is just like these really kind of embarrassing swings,

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<v Speaker 3>where like you just kind of get full on a

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<v Speaker 3>pitch and you almost don't like finish your swing. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just an embarrassing kind of mess up, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you're just like, yeah, you got me on that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Krolstan has zero of those because he just always

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<v Speaker 3>finishes his swings as hard as he can, whether he's

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<v Speaker 3>fulled or not, whether he misses the ball by three feet,

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<v Speaker 3>he's swinging as hard as he can and he's not stopping.

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<v Speaker 3>So I thought it was funny that he just swings

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<v Speaker 3>rate swings fast ninety eight percent of the time and

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<v Speaker 3>has zero swords, despite you know, being someone who strikes

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<v Speaker 3>out a lot and that's two hundred.

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<v Speaker 4>He just always swings as hard as he can.

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<v Speaker 1>He's such a crazy outlier.

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<v Speaker 2>His average swing is eighty point six miles per hour,

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<v Speaker 2>almost three miles per hour faster than anybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a massive gap.

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<v Speaker 2>Three miles per hour might not sound like a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>it is ginormous. Also, about twenty two percent of swings

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<v Speaker 2>across the reached the seventy five mile per hour threshold

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<v Speaker 2>is ninety eight percent of the time. Like you just mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like almost quadruple what the average is across the

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<v Speaker 2>It's more than quadruple in my mag it's more than

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<v Speaker 2>quadruple with the.

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<v Speaker 1>Average across the league. It's it's a wild outlier.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, one of the more interesting names. You know, there

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<v Speaker 3>there were some some obvious kind of names you would

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<v Speaker 3>you would expect to see, like Luisa Ariah's had, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a very slow bat speed but a really kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like quick compact swing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well to that point quickly before you mentioned the

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<v Speaker 2>next name. He leads, He led the league. I was

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<v Speaker 2>reading in the ESPN article, So there's so many of

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<v Speaker 2>these new stats. I'm trying to remember which ones I

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<v Speaker 2>was looking at. But Arias I believe he leads. It

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<v Speaker 2>was it is the slowest swing. But he also leads

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<v Speaker 2>in squaring uprate I believe it is, which is really

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<v Speaker 2>interesting to me because that is such a profile of

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<v Speaker 2>a contact here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>His squared up rate forty three and a half percent,

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<v Speaker 2>a best in base ball while also having the slow spats.

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<v Speaker 2>So like he is doing he is basically every at

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<v Speaker 2>bad of his is me growing up. When I two

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<v Speaker 2>strikes on me, it's like the classic, like choke up,

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<v Speaker 2>just get the barrel on the ball and tried square

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<v Speaker 2>up the ball somewhere and don't swing too hard.

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<v Speaker 1>That's him all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, exactly, And yeah there's a There was a

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<v Speaker 3>good write up about it an ESPN, which I encourage

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<v Speaker 3>people to read. The Athletic also did one which is

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good. Yeah, I read the one by Jef Passon.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to like steal all of his his

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<v Speaker 3>names and whatever, but it was it was interesting that

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<v Speaker 3>there were some some names you wouldn't really expect and

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<v Speaker 3>some names you would expect, you know, like Juan Soto

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<v Speaker 3>and choh Tani were up there, like you know, shocking,

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<v Speaker 3>and they have really good swings and you know, kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a really good approach at the plate. William Contraras

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<v Speaker 3>was like surprisingly maybe the best hitter in baseball with

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<v Speaker 3>like more blast than anyone else.

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<v Speaker 4>That was, you know, kind of a niame that jumped out.

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<v Speaker 3>What I'm really interested to see with this data because

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<v Speaker 3>when it first came out, it was it was a

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<v Speaker 3>lot to digest and I wasn't even sure like how

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<v Speaker 3>you know, before I really like dove in and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>read the breakdowns and just let look the numbers of myself.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't sure like how actionable this would be for fantasy.

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<v Speaker 4>And I do think there.

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<v Speaker 3>Are gonna be times where we kind of get a

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<v Speaker 3>little carried away with like, oh, look, he only has

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<v Speaker 3>a seventy four mile an hour average bat speed kind

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<v Speaker 3>of thing, because there's going to be outliers that just

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<v Speaker 3>like don't really fit neatly into this data. It for me,

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<v Speaker 3>it is going to be interesting as we start to

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<v Speaker 3>get into year over year data for this when you

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<v Speaker 3>see someone like it would be interesting to see because

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<v Speaker 3>because like this is pretty new data, and it's new

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<v Speaker 3>in the sense of like there are more cameras and

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<v Speaker 3>stuff that they're that they're looking at. So we don't

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<v Speaker 3>really have like a lot of year over year data

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<v Speaker 3>right now unless I'm misunderstanding all of this, But it'll

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<v Speaker 3>be interesting to see going forward year over your data

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<v Speaker 3>if if numbers for a certain player drastically change, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know that player is like getting better or is

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<v Speaker 3>like struggling, Like it would be interesting to see like

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<v Speaker 3>a you know, like a corporate Carol, you know, is

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<v Speaker 3>his bat speed or the length of his swing drastically different?

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<v Speaker 3>And I also the next thing is I want to

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<v Speaker 3>see this kind of stuff which I think we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>see infugi yeers added to the minor leagues, which is

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be kind of terrifying in the sense that we're

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<v Speaker 3>just gonna treat all these prospects like robots with like

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<v Speaker 3>everyone with like the highest metrics. Whenever we add stat

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<v Speaker 3>cast to minor league ballparks, is just gonna kind of

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<v Speaker 3>just be like whoever has the best the highest bat

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<v Speaker 3>speed and sprint speed, and everything's just gonna automatically like

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<v Speaker 3>be the ones we're talking about with when when we

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<v Speaker 3>start to like fade away from actual production. But uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>this stuff is gonna be interesting going forward, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>We you gave me a hard time last week about

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<v Speaker 2>kind of posing the rhetorical rhetorical question of is shohe

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<v Speaker 2>tany the best hitter in baseball? Some of the bat

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<v Speaker 2>speed stuff shows it like it actually might be one

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<v Speaker 2>so too, because his is like in if you look

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<v Speaker 2>at like kind of the quadrant, he like stands really

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<v Speaker 2>far ahead in the right and up quadrant, which is

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<v Speaker 2>like the best one to be in in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, bat speed, and I think it was length

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<v Speaker 2>the swing was the other was on the y axis,

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<v Speaker 2>but like square it up ratest, like all of them,

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<v Speaker 2>sotos is really high. The one last note that I

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<v Speaker 2>will take from Jeff Passen's article because he put it

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<v Speaker 2>on Twitter and I thought it was a fantastic nugget.

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<v Speaker 2>The average bat speed for the best hitter in Major

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<v Speaker 2>League Baseball this season called you know show Eatani seventy

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<v Speaker 2>five point four miles per hour.

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<v Speaker 1>The average bat speed for the worst.

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<v Speaker 2>Hitter in Major League Baseball this season Javier Baiaz seventy

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<v Speaker 2>five point four miles per hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly identical.

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<v Speaker 2>So that is as good a nugget as any to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you that bat speed is not everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's where it's really interesting when they compare

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<v Speaker 3>like the bat speed and the fast swing rate and

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<v Speaker 3>the length of the swing, which is another, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>something that we're gonna have to pay attention to, because

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<v Speaker 3>there's a difference between a real because you know, even

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<v Speaker 3>when we look at John Carlos Stan he has the

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<v Speaker 3>fastest or the highest however you want to ward at

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<v Speaker 3>bat speed, he also has the longest swing length. It

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<v Speaker 3>takes him the longest for his whole swing to kind

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<v Speaker 3>of get through the zone. So like the bat's moving

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<v Speaker 3>fast but or sorry second slowest behind I your bias

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<v Speaker 3>shockingly enough, but you know, it's more about just like

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<v Speaker 3>the you know, how big your swing is, Like it's

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<v Speaker 3>moving quickly, but you're also like it's just an enormous swing.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's kind of you know, I think that's why

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<v Speaker 3>he's such a boomer bust kind of swinger.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's go to our next topic here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure we might have more takeaways on some of

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<v Speaker 2>this swing data later on in the season, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's, you know enough for now. Next topic here,

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<v Speaker 2>there was an article on MLB dot com some of

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<v Speaker 2>the likeliest players to be dealt by the trade deadline.

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<v Speaker 2>I have somebody who I know you there have to

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<v Speaker 2>be two sides to every trade, and you need a

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<v Speaker 2>willing partner. But I always hate when teams who are

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<v Speaker 2>obvious buyers wait until like mid July, because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what the Orioles need right now is a

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<v Speaker 2>back end of the bullpen arm. Go trade for them

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<v Speaker 2>now and don't give away eight more games between now

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<v Speaker 2>and the end of July, because you haven't overworked and

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<v Speaker 2>incompetent back end of the bullpen, like go make the

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<v Speaker 2>move now. And so it really bothers me when teams

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<v Speaker 2>wait again. I get it that the other teams need

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<v Speaker 2>to be willing to sell, but I just wish that

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<v Speaker 2>we would see moves sooner. We already saw with the

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<v Speaker 2>rias you know, early on this year, but I want

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<v Speaker 2>to see more and more earlier in in you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the summer and in the trade deadline. So going

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<v Speaker 2>through this article, there's a bunch of names. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think we need to like highlight every one of them specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know it's names like from all the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of usual suspect teams you would imagine, the Angels, the A's,

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<v Speaker 2>the Cardinals, the Rockies, the White Sox, the Marlins.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, some of the names.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to quickly read through that, the article highlighted Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Addell Mason Miller obviously. You know he's a guy I'd

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<v Speaker 2>love to see in Baltimore. You know who wouldn't love

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<v Speaker 2>to see them on their team? You know, Aaron Otto,

0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:52.879
<v Speaker 2>Charlie Blackman, you know Tanner, Scott Hasslizardo, Luis Robert Kopek,

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<v Speaker 2>Alex Bregman is listening to the article, which I think

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<v Speaker 2>that might be a bridge too far, But any of

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<v Speaker 2>these namestep stand out to you, and you know what

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<v Speaker 2>do you kind of think about where we stand, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple months out from the trade deadline.

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<v Speaker 3>So when I see an article like this, the first

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<v Speaker 3>thing I try to kind of piece together or just

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<v Speaker 3>imagine the hypotheticals in my mind is who on the

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<v Speaker 3>list from a fantasy perspective has the most to gain, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>who could you potentially acquire in fantasy now before a trade?

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<v Speaker 3>Who their value is going to go up, Like they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to go to a better lineup, or they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to go to a you know, just a better like

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<v Speaker 3>if they're especially if they're a picture, if they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to go to a better team, have more run support,

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<v Speaker 3>have better defense behind them, potentially win more games kind

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<v Speaker 3>of thing, And just you know who could probably just

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<v Speaker 3>use a change of scenery.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you mentioned Alex Bragman.

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<v Speaker 3>He's probably you know, his numbers don't look good enough

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<v Speaker 3>despite his big game the other day. Don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>a change of scenery is going to matter that much

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<v Speaker 3>for him, the Astros should be a lot better than

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<v Speaker 3>they are. It's not like he's in a bad lineup.

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<v Speaker 3>He's in a good lineup. But just I'm not really

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<v Speaker 3>sure what's going on there, Joe Adallas.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not really expecting the Astros to sell like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Just maybe I'm just it's just so ingrained in my

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<v Speaker 2>head that they're always in the alcs. But it's just

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<v Speaker 2>it's weird for me to imagine this iteration of the

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<v Speaker 2>roster that they, like you said, they should be better

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<v Speaker 2>than they are. I just I can't imagine that two

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<v Speaker 2>months from now they'll be selling.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think they would.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they would need to continue, and like you said,

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<v Speaker 3>they're not going to be one of those teams that

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<v Speaker 3>sells early. They're going to ride this into the ground

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<v Speaker 3>and only sell that they have to, you know, late July.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Adell is a name that kind of is interesting

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<v Speaker 3>just because of his like he's kind of breaking out finally,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's in He's not in a great lineup.

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<v Speaker 4>Trout's gonna be out for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>I promise I won't interrupt you on all these guys,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do just have to say on Adell, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I would be really wary of trading for him. Uh, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>because not even about just like the past, but like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's say you even believe that it's that the breakout

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<v Speaker 2>is one hundred percent legit, and you're like.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, I mean trading Wait, I'm gonna interrupt you now,

0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:00.840
<v Speaker 3>and the tables have turned. Yeah, do you mean wary

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<v Speaker 3>of trading him as a fantasy manager or as an

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<v Speaker 3>MMV team?

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<v Speaker 4>Both?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm wary of trading for him in both because

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<v Speaker 2>even if you I'm worried of trading for him in

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<v Speaker 2>fantasy if you expect him to be traded away from

0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:17.879
<v Speaker 2>the Angels, and I'm wary of trading for him in

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<v Speaker 2>real life. You know, if you're any team not the Angels,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I might have said, oo, the Angels.

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<v Speaker 1>Because even if you believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is one hundred percent legitimate and this is a real

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<v Speaker 2>breakout and he is now this hitter, I worry that

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<v Speaker 2>it took him so long to get to that point

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<v Speaker 2>in Los Angeles that whatever they did to work with him, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's probably meaningful given all the struggles he

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<v Speaker 2>had before, And I would be really scared of him

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<v Speaker 2>changing sceneries. You know, it's it's like like the opposite

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<v Speaker 2>of Bregmann, Like I would be really worried about a

0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:48.919
<v Speaker 2>change of scenery negatively impacting him, even if you think

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<v Speaker 2>the breakout is real in Los Angeles?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Does that make sense? Am I like kind of maybe

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<v Speaker 2>overthinking it? Or would you be happy to trade him

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<v Speaker 2>even if he gets traded in fantasy versus reality?

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's fair. I think there's a lot to

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<v Speaker 4>worry about.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we already kind of talked about Joe Odell,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, everything looks kind of good, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>looked so bad for so long that it's hard to

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<v Speaker 3>believe this is just a whole new Joe Odell.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you would have to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Confident in wherever he's like being traded to, and kind

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<v Speaker 3>of you know, it's impossible to like know all this

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<v Speaker 3>stuff off the back, you know, just in the back

0:22:21.880 --> 0:22:23.680
<v Speaker 3>of your mind of just you know, which which kind

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<v Speaker 3>of teams have like a really good track record of

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<v Speaker 3>developing these young you know, these young hitters. The Angels

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<v Speaker 3>are probably not one of those teams, So maybe he

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<v Speaker 3>could go somewhere where they do have a better track

0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:38.520
<v Speaker 3>record of developing young hitters like the Orioles of a

0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:42.160
<v Speaker 3>team that has done that it recently, someone who isn't

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<v Speaker 3>the Rockies, who are just like the poster team of

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<v Speaker 3>how to not develop prospects, but something like something like

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<v Speaker 3>that where you would you would have to be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>this is good. He's going to go to a better ballpark,

0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:56.040
<v Speaker 3>a better lineup, and to a team with a track

0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:58.560
<v Speaker 3>record of developing, you know, young hitters. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>that would be kind of but even that, like we're

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<v Speaker 3>talking redraft, like how much of a difference is going

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<v Speaker 3>to make this season as opposed to like a keeper

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<v Speaker 3>of dynasty league where you can kind of see, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>changes going forward.

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<v Speaker 2>I would not be going after somebody like Tanner Scott

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<v Speaker 2>in fantasy because I think if he gets traded it's

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<v Speaker 2>likely as like a seventh or eighth inning guy in

0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:19.320
<v Speaker 2>an already good bullpen. I don't think it's likely that

0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:21.240
<v Speaker 2>he's a closer somewhere else, so I think he would

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<v Speaker 2>lose value, you know, maybe kind of the same thought

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<v Speaker 2>for Copek.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean some of these other like.

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<v Speaker 2>Hayeses Lozardo, you know, would would certainly have a better

0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:36.359
<v Speaker 2>chance at wins and then another uh, you know team,

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not like he's you know, it's not like

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<v Speaker 2>he's somebody that I mean, there's talent that I don't

0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:47.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to like like downplay the talent there,

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<v Speaker 2>but like it hasn't Quip been there this season, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not sure how much value he's bringing, even

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<v Speaker 2>if there's a better chance for wins.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you'd have to hope for like a bounce back

0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:03.720
<v Speaker 3>to kind of the potential we've seen this. You know,

0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:05.439
<v Speaker 3>he's like a high ceiling, low flower kind of guy,

0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:07.080
<v Speaker 3>so it's hard to know what you're going to get there,

0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:10.359
<v Speaker 3>Michael Michael Kopak, is anything that would be interesting, but

0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:12.480
<v Speaker 3>he would have to be like you said, like the

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:14.639
<v Speaker 3>Tanner Scott situation. I need him to go to a

0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:17.520
<v Speaker 3>place where he's closing. And it's like he's probably more

0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:20.159
<v Speaker 3>likely to be like that multi inning you know, bring

0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:22.000
<v Speaker 3>him in the six and seven then you know, get

0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:23.919
<v Speaker 3>six guys out kind of a thing. Even though the

0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:26.000
<v Speaker 3>White Sox are using him as a closer, and I

0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:28.199
<v Speaker 3>think that's his future is being a closer. I think

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<v Speaker 3>the starter experiment is over. Let's let's just make him

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<v Speaker 3>a closer. He's got the stuff to be a good closer.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's just lean into that and just let's go have

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<v Speaker 3>a career. Michael Kopek, Let's not worry about the starter stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, his name, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maybe he's getting older and would do some you know,

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<v Speaker 3>do for some negative stuff. But he's like being He's

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<v Speaker 3>like fine right now in a lineup that is not

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:52.400
<v Speaker 3>fine around him.

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<v Speaker 2>The most intriguing name by a mile in this article

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<v Speaker 2>is Mason Miller. Oh yeah, do you think he gets moved?

0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:02.159
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea what the what the a's are,

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<v Speaker 2>What wouldn't even take to get him, because like the

0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:07.000
<v Speaker 2>a's are bad and you and you generally want to

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:09.000
<v Speaker 2>cap I know they like had a hot streak greasely,

0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 2>but like you generally, if you're a bad team want

0:25:11.000 --> 0:25:13.520
<v Speaker 2>to capitalize on a strong reliever season. That's like a

0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:17.800
<v Speaker 2>really straightforward way to improve your organization is to if

0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:21.000
<v Speaker 2>you're a bad team, trade a good reliever for whatever haul.

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:24.040
<v Speaker 1>You can get. Mason Miller is ridiculous.

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:28.600
<v Speaker 2>He is like that one of the nastiest closers stretches

0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:31.240
<v Speaker 2>I've ever seen in my life. And I watched twenty

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:37.399
<v Speaker 2>sixteen Zach Brittain. He is ridiculous under control for a while,

0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:41.320
<v Speaker 2>there's bin injury stuff in the past. Obviously, the way

0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:43.720
<v Speaker 2>he throws, it's like, you know, you don't really expect

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:47.120
<v Speaker 2>to like to last forever. But again, like just using

0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:51.040
<v Speaker 2>the oils as an example, a guy like Heston Kerstad

0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:53.439
<v Speaker 2>is blocked. He's a top twenty five prospect in baseball.

0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:57.080
<v Speaker 2>He's ready for the big leagues. Like, I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>know if that would be considered a reasonable for the

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<v Speaker 2>A's or not, because it's just kind of a unique

0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:06.600
<v Speaker 2>situation combining all these factors that aren't typically combined.

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<v Speaker 3>And what you said there is kind of the kind

0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:13.680
<v Speaker 3>of the issue is because the the rumors all along,

0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:16.120
<v Speaker 3>because I think this came up months ago with like, oh,

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 3>maybe they could look to move Mason Miller because they're

0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:22.640
<v Speaker 3>ridiculous and the apparently the asking price has been astronomical,

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 3>so it's like they're just kind of like floating him

0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 3>out there. Okay, if you want to make us an

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<v Speaker 3>off where we can't refuse, like we're the A's, we'll

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:31.360
<v Speaker 3>do anything. We'll get nuts. And I think the other

0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:33.679
<v Speaker 3>thing that you mentioned there that could be potentially interesting

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:38.920
<v Speaker 3>is I think if you're well, I guess it would

0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:41.240
<v Speaker 3>depend like the team like the Orioles would make not

0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:42.959
<v Speaker 3>the like I want to, you know, break my own

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:44.840
<v Speaker 3>rule and talk about the Ools on the show. But

0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:46.920
<v Speaker 3>a team like the Orioles could make a lot of sense,

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<v Speaker 3>and in the sense that they're set up for a

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<v Speaker 3>long competing window.

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 4>Here they have some pretty good pitching depth.

0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:58.480
<v Speaker 3>They could use more starting pitching depth, but like they have,

0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:02.639
<v Speaker 3>you know, like you said, in a fundance of young hitters.

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:06.120
<v Speaker 3>And I think for a lot of teams you would

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:08.640
<v Speaker 3>almost have to like wonder if you're acquiring Mason Miller,

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 3>like do you view him as a high end starter

0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 3>going forward or just as a reliever. And the Oriels

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:16.000
<v Speaker 3>are a team that could be like, we're happy with

0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:17.639
<v Speaker 3>him as like a lockdown reliever. We don't need to

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:20.119
<v Speaker 3>worry about him making a starter, whereas I think other

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 3>teams they might want to kind of look at him

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:25.280
<v Speaker 3>as like a twenty twenty four closer, but then also

0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:27.920
<v Speaker 3>a high end starting pitching prospect that we can stretch

0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:30.680
<v Speaker 3>out and turn into an ace, and that I think

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:33.160
<v Speaker 3>in order to match what the A's want, it might

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 3>be what you have to view him as.

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's an interesting wrinkle. I mean again, like a

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 1>team like the Orioles.

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:41.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, next year theoretically Felix Bautista back, so maybe

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 2>then you maybe even for them, it's like a one

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 2>year closer. But I mean, like a reliever, this dominant

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 2>is like actually not that easy to find. Like, good

0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:55.119
<v Speaker 2>relievers are out there and sometimes they're hard to predict,

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:58.120
<v Speaker 2>but they're not hard to find. Relievers at this level

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:02.400
<v Speaker 2>are hard to find. So I'd be perfectly content whether

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 2>it's the Orioles or anybody, to just see him, just

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:08.880
<v Speaker 2>let them say, like, listen, you on a good team

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:12.879
<v Speaker 2>could get five hundred saves and also strike out like

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 2>two batteries an inning for your whole career, Like like

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:17.680
<v Speaker 2>just say, look how dominant you are. Why mess with

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 2>a good thing? I wouldn't be opposed to that, you know,

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 2>wherever he goes. So he's the really interesting one. Let's

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 2>move on to our bylow cell high for the week.

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:30.840
<v Speaker 2>I'll go first in the by Low. My favorite by

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 2>Low actually in the article and everybody should go check

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 2>it out. Fantasypros dot Com is Matt Olson. However, we

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 2>just talked about him last week when discussing grading your trade.

0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 2>So rather than talk about him again, I will say

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 2>my second favorite from the article, which is Boba Schett,

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 2>And it's less about, you know, with Matt Olsen, there's

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, reasons for optimism from some of the bad

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 2>etball data. There's not really that with Boba Schett. It's

0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:57.440
<v Speaker 2>more just like it's not like he's old. There's a

0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 2>real track record here. He's actually even hard to heat

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 2>up a bit in the last you know, several days.

0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:07.880
<v Speaker 2>So I just think he's somebody that again we always

0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 2>say I'm not buying I'm buying low and you're gonna

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:13.239
<v Speaker 2>give me a bilo opportunity and a guy who has

0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Speaker 2>legitimately struggled this year, but who has the kind of

0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 2>ceiling that we know Bobachett has.

0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 1>And again it's it's early.

0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Enough that you can kind of look past a slow start,

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:25.520
<v Speaker 2>even if it's not bad luck, it's actually a bad start,

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:29.480
<v Speaker 2>and say this guy could easily bounce back. So, like

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:31.760
<v Speaker 2>I said, Matt Olson is my favorite from this week's article,

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 2>but Bobachhet is my second favorite.

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like Bobachhet. The thing I like about him

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 3>and one of the reasons I like him as a

0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 3>by low Is. The concerning thing last year was you know,

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 3>he was a little banged up and he wasn't running,

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 3>and it was like, oh no, here we go. This

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:51.120
<v Speaker 3>is like the Mike drought syndrome. We have a superstar

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:54.960
<v Speaker 3>who broke into the league as like a thirty thirty

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 3>potential kind of guy, and you know, in his breakout

0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 3>year he went twenty nine to twenty five and everyone

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 3>was salvating over the potential there. It was like a

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 3>high average power speed, like this guy's little package, and

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 3>he kind of just gradually got worse, like not terribly worse,

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:10.960
<v Speaker 3>but like the numbers just kind of went down.

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 4>He's been banged up a little.

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 3>You know, he's banged up a little bit last year,

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 3>Like I said, after two really you know, solid years.

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 3>Batting average has been there up until this year. But

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:22.360
<v Speaker 3>he wasn't running in twenty twenty one, twenty five stolen basis,

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty two, thirteen last year five. So the good

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 3>The one thing I like to see this year is

0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 3>that he already has four and not that four is

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 3>a lot, but he only stole five all last year

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 3>and he already has four, and so that is an

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 3>encouraging sign that you know he could be getting.

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 4>You know, he's not.

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't seem like he's gonna ever go back to

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 3>that thirty thirty potential. But he could be like a

0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:45.880
<v Speaker 3>twenty five to fifteen guy with a really good average,

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:48.719
<v Speaker 3>and you know, there's just a lot to like there.

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:50.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm a big Bobachette fan, so I'd definitely be

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 3>buying well.

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Two, who's your pick here?

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 3>So my pick here is actually someone I stole from Welsh.

0:30:57.360 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 3>The person I wrote up in the article is Aaron Savale,

0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 3>and I wrote how I'd be going down with the

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:06.400
<v Speaker 3>Aaron sa Valet ship and just babbling about needing a

0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 3>larger sample size as we loaded the women and children

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 3>under the rescue boats. But we've already talked about Arnsavalley

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 3>on the show a little bit, so we don't need to.

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 4>Go back down that road.

0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 3>So I stole jazz chism from Welsh, and it was

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 3>because I read his write up and I thought there

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:25.920
<v Speaker 3>was an interesting reason. It wasn't necessarily about what we

0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 3>always talk about, which is, you know, like his underlying

0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 3>numbers are much better. This is a clear buy low

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 3>kind of a thing, which you know, there was a

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 3>little bit of that, but he he was also speculating

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 3>that he could be traded, which you know, is a

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 3>perfect kind of segue to what we just talked about.

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:41.520
<v Speaker 3>You know what, who who could see their value drastically

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 3>increase if they land in a new environment, and he's

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 3>a perfect candidate for that.

0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if he will be moved, but you

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 4>similar to.

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 3>What we were talking about with the A's, you can't

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:53.080
<v Speaker 3>rule out anything the Marlins, do, you know, Like you

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 3>said before, you hate waiting to see teams wait till July.

0:31:56.880 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 4>They made it trade two weeks ago. They're already ready

0:31:59.120 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 4>to roll.

0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 3>And so I was kind of looking at his contract too,

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:04.760
<v Speaker 3>because I was like, well, I feel like he's under

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 3>control for.

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 4>A little while.

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 3>Maybe they won't trade him. He is kind of already

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:10.920
<v Speaker 3>in his arbitration or not kind of. He is already

0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 3>in his arbitration seasons, which, as we know, your your

0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 3>contract gradually goes up, you know, into the millions.

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 4>Every year you're in that.

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 3>And the Marlins are notoriously really cheap, and they don't

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:28.040
<v Speaker 3>view arbitration years the way that the big market teams view,

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 3>as you know, affordable years. They view them as these

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 3>are getting more expensive, like maybe we should start to

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 3>sell why while we can. It's it's clear from their

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 3>moves they don't think they're anywhere close to a contention window.

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 3>So maybe he could be moved in some kind of

0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 3>blockbuster deal. Or he goes to a really good lineup,

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 3>bats pretty highly in that lineup, and you know, now

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 3>we're talking about someone who, just as I already mentioned,

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 3>he's in a much better situation, probably in a better ballpark,

0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 3>with you know, better run support or you know, better

0:32:57.360 --> 0:33:00.200
<v Speaker 3>like lineup support around him. I think that's a really

0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 3>intriguing name. So I commend Welsh for that idea, and

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:06.160
<v Speaker 3>I gladly steal it from him for the show.

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Let's go to the cell highs Now.

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 2>I didn't like the cell high options in this week's article,

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 2>so I picked my Rather than picking my favorite cell high,

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 2>I picked my least favorite cell high from the article.

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:21.760
<v Speaker 1>And that's Aaron Judge.

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 2>We talk a lot about the color of your stat

0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 2>cast page. It's remarkably red. I mean there's a couple

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, obviously, like strikeout rate and with rate are

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 2>kind of usually high with him, but it is it

0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:35.800
<v Speaker 2>is pretty dark red across the world. He actually while

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:37.960
<v Speaker 2>we were recording this hit a home run four hundred

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:40.920
<v Speaker 2>and sixty seven feet tonight. So we were recording this Wednesday,

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 2>by the way, everyone, not.

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Thursday like usual. I mean, he has ten home runs.

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:48.720
<v Speaker 2>You know. The batting average is down at two thirty six,

0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 2>but he's only thirty two. It's not like he's some

0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 2>old man you can't hack it anymore. His bat speed

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 2>is ninety seven percentile, so clearly he can still swing hard.

0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm maybe not ying high on Judge.

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 2>I think that's reasonable, but I'm really not actively looking

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 2>to sell on Aaron Judge really really at all.

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:09.000
<v Speaker 1>What do you think about Judge?

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we kind of talked about him recently and

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 3>I kind of said that I am not always kind

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:18.759
<v Speaker 3>of selling high, but I rarely have shares of Aaron

0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:20.840
<v Speaker 3>Judge because he goes so high in drafts or so

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 3>for so much money and auctions, and I'm always kind

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:25.840
<v Speaker 3>of the older he gets, the more concerned I am

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 3>about injury. So I feel like baking an injury concerns

0:34:30.080 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 3>would have to be your reason for selling high. And

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:36.880
<v Speaker 3>because but if like if you drafted him, you already

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 3>knew that, So why are you bothering to.

0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Sell high at this point, I don't have him in

0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 2>a lot of places, to be clear, because I'm similar

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:45.200
<v Speaker 2>to you in that he just typically goes higher than

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:49.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm comfortable taking on that risk on actual draft day,

0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:51.400
<v Speaker 2>So I don't really have the opportunity to sell him

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:54.200
<v Speaker 2>even if I wanted to. But if I did, again,

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:56.359
<v Speaker 2>he's somebody that like, you know what you're getting when

0:34:56.440 --> 0:35:01.279
<v Speaker 2>you draft him, and I'm not uncomfortable enough with what

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:04.360
<v Speaker 2>we've gotten that I'm looking to get out just because

0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:05.320
<v Speaker 2>he's having a hot streak.

0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Here to start, May, who's your cell high?

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:13.720
<v Speaker 3>My cell high is Reese Elsen, and I'm I'm saddened

0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 3>to hear that you didn't like my choice of a

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:17.759
<v Speaker 3>cell high. I thought we were supporting each other on

0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 3>this show, so why don't I return it to you?

0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 3>Why do you not like Reese Elson as a cell high?

0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 2>So is to pull the cur I wasn't gonna like

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 2>point this out once I realized this has happened. I'm

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:36.840
<v Speaker 2>actually pulling from our by low sell high article options,

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:41.800
<v Speaker 2>not from our featured pros multiple people options. So I

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 2>was trying to highlight our writer who does bilo sell

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:48.239
<v Speaker 2>high every week, Brett USTERI and pick from his where

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 2>I did not like his sell high options, which were

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Judge, Mitch Keller, and Jameson tie On.

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:55.399
<v Speaker 1>So I don't like any of those.

0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:59.840
<v Speaker 2>I didn't actually compare to your article or choice. So

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:02.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying you made a bad choice. Go ahead

0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:04.400
<v Speaker 2>and sell me this pen On resource.

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:09.920
<v Speaker 3>He's just I mean, his numbers right now are incredible.

0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 3>He has a two point zero nine ERA.

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>And an incredible zero to four one lost record.

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's that's kind of the reason for the

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:25.239
<v Speaker 3>cell high because you can kind of, you know, sell

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:26.759
<v Speaker 3>someone on the on the fact that, look, you know,

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 3>he's got these incredible numbers, the wins will come. But

0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:31.800
<v Speaker 3>he is on the Tigers, and he also has you know,

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:34.880
<v Speaker 3>he has zero wins. He also has zero home runs allowed,

0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:38.880
<v Speaker 3>which is both impressive but also incredibly lucky, very scary.

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that just that kind of luck just isn't going

0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 4>to continue the rest of the season.

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:45.880
<v Speaker 3>Although as I mentioned in the article, he does have

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 3>a really you know, there are some reasons like he's

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:50.440
<v Speaker 3>kind of doing that. He's he's allowing some decent hard contact,

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 3>but he's he's got a ridiculous fifty five percent ground

0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 3>ball rate, So he is keeping the ball on the ground.

0:36:56.719 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 4>But at the same time, he's not missing a lot

0:36:58.160 --> 0:36:58.479
<v Speaker 4>of bats.

0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 3>And so while he's not walking in ton a guy,

0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:03.800
<v Speaker 3>he's letting up some hard contact no home runs, and

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:06.960
<v Speaker 3>kind of keeping them all on the ground. It's it's

0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:09.240
<v Speaker 3>just not sustainable, you know, when when you're not missing

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:10.719
<v Speaker 3>a ton of bats and you're giving up a decent

0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:12.759
<v Speaker 3>amount of hard contact, it doesn't really matter. Like he's

0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 3>gonna have some blow up starts here. His expected era

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:18.759
<v Speaker 3>numbers are like, aren't terrible. Like his actual RA is

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:21.400
<v Speaker 3>two point zero nine. All of his other numbers are

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 3>between two point five four and three point seven seven,

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:26.000
<v Speaker 3>which even if you fully regrets.

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:27.960
<v Speaker 4>To those like, that's still not bad. And so it's

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 4>not like a you know, it's not like a regular

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:31.120
<v Speaker 4>sell or a cell low.

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:35.480
<v Speaker 3>It's a cell high. I want to sell what we

0:37:35.719 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 3>what we've seen in the you know, in production, for

0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 3>something better, you know something. And this is sometimes we

0:37:42.719 --> 0:37:44.279
<v Speaker 3>talk about these trades and we kind of get caught

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:45.920
<v Speaker 3>up in like what picture would you want? I like

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:47.279
<v Speaker 3>to do the opposite trades. I like to do a

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:50.040
<v Speaker 3>picture for a hitter, and I would rather. You know,

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:52.879
<v Speaker 3>I think I mentioned I wrote it today, so I'm

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 3>trying to remember what I wrote. I think I mentioned

0:37:55.080 --> 0:37:56.719
<v Speaker 3>I would rather like I would, I would like to

0:37:56.840 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 3>swap him for almost like a buy high hitter like

0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 3>a Joe Adele, or a by low hitter like a

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:03.920
<v Speaker 3>George Springer.

0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:06.279
<v Speaker 1>I think that's fair.

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 2>You made a great case, and I'm not gonna say

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 2>you're wrong about that. Like I said, just drawing from

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 2>a different article. That's that's how organized we are here.

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Let's kick it to my conversation with Welsh. Like I said,

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 2>we dive into a whole bunch of prospects and other

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:21.719
<v Speaker 2>young players, and then you and I will come back

0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:22.359
<v Speaker 2>on the other side.

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Back in with Chris Welsh, our guest of the week.

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:28.720
<v Speaker 1>We are here for Prospect Corner.

0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 2>Only one of us who's going to talk to Welsh today,

0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:33.600
<v Speaker 2>And of course I drew the short straw, so mayor

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:37.279
<v Speaker 2>lucked out chat with the Well. No, it is a

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:40.360
<v Speaker 2>delight to talk to our friend and coworker, Chris Welsh.

0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:43.319
<v Speaker 2>We're talking to prospects now Welsh. Last week we were

0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:45.880
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of recording with Kelly Kirby, who was

0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 2>our guest last week when news dropped that Paul Skens

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:51.839
<v Speaker 2>was officially finally getting the call, we had a sense

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:54.880
<v Speaker 2>that this was probably, you know, around the horizon. Sometime

0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:57.320
<v Speaker 2>soon it finally did happen. So here we are a

0:38:57.360 --> 0:38:59.719
<v Speaker 2>week later. We have a start to actually look at

0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:02.080
<v Speaker 2>and react to, and I want to ask you about

0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 2>that and also kind of looking ahead for the rest

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:05.200
<v Speaker 2>of the season, just get the chance for the folks

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:07.799
<v Speaker 2>to hear your reaction and kind of expectations.

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:09.680
<v Speaker 1>But just off the bat, what did you think of

0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:10.240
<v Speaker 1>the debut?

0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, four innings, seven strikeouts, give a three earned runs,

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:16.920
<v Speaker 2>a home run, a couple of walks. You know, you're

0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:18.719
<v Speaker 2>not gonna put too much dock in you just one start, right,

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:20.400
<v Speaker 2>and it was the kid's major league debut.

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 1>But the stuff is unreal. Everybody already knows it.

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:24.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess let me actually backtrack again and

0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:27.960
<v Speaker 2>ask you initially, was this the most excited you were

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 2>for a pitching prospect since Strasburg? That was kind of

0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:32.719
<v Speaker 2>the comparison point a lot of people were giving. Is

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:33.839
<v Speaker 2>that kind of how you felt too.

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:37.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, for a pitching prospect? Sure, I mean it's sometimes

0:39:37.320 --> 0:39:40.840
<v Speaker 5>shooing far between. I will tell you it probably would

0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:44.359
<v Speaker 5>have been like McKenzie go I loved McKenzie, a huge

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 5>mackenzie Gore guy. But Gore then kind of fell apart

0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:50.600
<v Speaker 5>before he made that major league debut. And that's a

0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:53.200
<v Speaker 5>tough thing. That's that's actually kind of the uniqueness about

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 5>Paul Skeins is everyone is always picked on top pitching prospects.

0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:00.319
<v Speaker 5>Because if you go back and you li ok at

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:03.480
<v Speaker 5>just any list, you know, go to pipeline, you go

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 5>to mine, but you go to like pipeline or something

0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 5>for MLB, and you go back and look top twenty

0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 5>overall prospects for the last like five or six, maybe

0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:13.319
<v Speaker 5>eight years, and you go and look at like who

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:18.359
<v Speaker 5>are the top pitching prospects, Force Whitley, Alex Reyes, McKinsey, Gore.

0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:22.160
<v Speaker 5>There's failure, but the failure happens before they even hit

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:25.720
<v Speaker 5>the majors. The failure happens in the midst of the process.

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:28.839
<v Speaker 5>Paul Skeins wasn't a round for there to be time

0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:32.080
<v Speaker 5>for failure. But it's such a quick successful run that

0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:35.160
<v Speaker 5>he made to the major So yeah, from an excitement standpoint,

0:40:35.960 --> 0:40:37.160
<v Speaker 5>this is the top dog.

0:40:38.040 --> 0:40:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Would you say, like maybe even more exciting than Strasburg.

0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:43.279
<v Speaker 2>I saw that debate going on. For me, Strasburg kind

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:46.120
<v Speaker 2>of stands alone. I was also in DC when that

0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:46.920
<v Speaker 2>debut happened.

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:47.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, a little different for you.

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:50.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't really remember.

0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:53.479
<v Speaker 5>It's not in my brain like how I felt.

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:53.920
<v Speaker 4>Obviously.

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:59.600
<v Speaker 5>I think his performance was like excitement versus met expectations,

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:03.839
<v Speaker 5>like if I'm doing a selfish one, Max sureser, Max sure,

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 5>I'm a diamondback guy. When Max Scherzer made his debut

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:09.400
<v Speaker 5>and he struck out like eight in four innings, like,

0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:11.719
<v Speaker 5>it was really exciting, So it was kind of near there.

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 5>But you know, you also brought up expectations. This is

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:18.120
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know you doing the social here like

0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:20.880
<v Speaker 5>I did the social video for you, not not to

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 5>pull a piece of pa here, but I was pretty

0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:24.560
<v Speaker 5>damn close to right if you look at it, like

0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:26.920
<v Speaker 5>and then it'll pat myself on the back. But like

0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:28.799
<v Speaker 5>I said, I thought he was going to go four.

0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:29.640
<v Speaker 1>I thought he was in.

0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:33.239
<v Speaker 5>I said eight strikeouts, I said, two earned runs and

0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 5>two walks. We're pretty close. Seven strikeouts, three earned runs,

0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 5>two walks. And the reason I thought and the reason

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:45.600
<v Speaker 5>why like this didn't surpass or underwhelm my expectations is

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:47.360
<v Speaker 5>obviously because like this is what I thought he was

0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:50.279
<v Speaker 5>going to do. I thought he was gonna have a

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 5>little bit, especially in this specific matchup, which I had

0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:55.480
<v Speaker 5>talked about in some of the social videos, was the

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:58.520
<v Speaker 5>Cubs are a team that can drive pitch counts a

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:00.640
<v Speaker 5>little bit more like they were little bit in the

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:03.799
<v Speaker 5>higher range. I think close to ten percent overall walk

0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:07.160
<v Speaker 5>rate they put up. And Skeens is a guy that

0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:10.719
<v Speaker 5>obviously is going to pump a fastball, but like he

0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 5>also drives counts. I think he went over five once

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:16.440
<v Speaker 5>in the minor leagues. He had gotten to seventy five

0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:21.120
<v Speaker 5>pitches at the tippy top. Like it's not Blake Snell.

0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:24.080
<v Speaker 5>But I don't know if Skeens is going to be

0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:25.880
<v Speaker 5>a guy that's going to have a whole lot of

0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 5>like low pitch count innings because he you got guys

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 5>that can't can't even get contact on one hundred and

0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:35.080
<v Speaker 5>two mile an hour fastball. He topped at one to

0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:39.400
<v Speaker 5>one point nine in that start. So inherently you're probably

0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:43.360
<v Speaker 5>gonna have more often than not, you know, fifteen to

0:42:43.560 --> 0:42:47.400
<v Speaker 5>eighteen pitch innings. So that is gonna get you to

0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:50.040
<v Speaker 5>struggle a little bit from the uh, you know, getting

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 5>to like five and six innings. So I'm saying all

0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:54.239
<v Speaker 5>of this without jumping too far ahead and whatever you're

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:57.960
<v Speaker 5>gonna want to talk about. This was expectationally where I

0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:01.880
<v Speaker 5>thought Paul Skeins was going to be. I loved the fastball.

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:03.719
<v Speaker 5>The only thing I thought was weird was I think

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:08.680
<v Speaker 5>it was Yasmini Grindal who was altering the pitch mix,

0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 5>because early on, if you watch the start schemes, was

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:14.120
<v Speaker 5>electric with the fastball. It was early fastballs in the

0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:16.680
<v Speaker 5>first inning, struck out two second and then all of

0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:20.320
<v Speaker 5>a sudden it started turning to like sliders and you

0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:23.240
<v Speaker 5>were seeing that splinker or whatever they call the splitter

0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:25.560
<v Speaker 5>that he was on the splitter, change up type of thing.

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:28.360
<v Speaker 5>And it felt like in two strike counts they were

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:32.120
<v Speaker 5>going to those instead of just barreling down one hundred

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:34.200
<v Speaker 5>and two. And I thought that was a catcher decision

0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:37.279
<v Speaker 5>which maybe drove counts where you want to see more fastballs.

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:40.800
<v Speaker 5>But I think like, regardless of the result, you should

0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:45.080
<v Speaker 5>be happy. This is him meeting the expectation of Paul

0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:48.080
<v Speaker 5>Skins is a big win. It just doesn't add up

0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:52.920
<v Speaker 5>to the Bonker's pre expectations people had those trades on

0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:55.040
<v Speaker 5>leading off that we were seeing Someone's like, I can

0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:58.120
<v Speaker 5>get Matt Olsen for Paul Skins. Yeah, Someone's like, would

0:43:58.120 --> 0:43:59.680
<v Speaker 5>you trade Paul Skins for Corbyn Burns?

0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:00.439
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:04.480
<v Speaker 5>I think the performance took away some of the oh

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:07.480
<v Speaker 5>my god, Paul Skeins is a little bit human, So

0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:09.719
<v Speaker 5>now you can't quite make those trades. So now it's like,

0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:11.239
<v Speaker 5>who would you rather have rest of the season, like

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:13.800
<v Speaker 5>Paul Skins or Chris Sale. I think that makes a

0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:15.359
<v Speaker 5>little bit more sense in people's minds.

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:17.640
<v Speaker 1>What range are you ranking him rest of season?

0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:22.000
<v Speaker 5>So in the initial rank on my rest of season,

0:44:22.120 --> 0:44:24.600
<v Speaker 5>I had put him before the start at thirty three.

0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:28.040
<v Speaker 5>That's where I had set him. I'm still working on

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:30.800
<v Speaker 5>the finalizing the rest of season. We're trying to do

0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:33.719
<v Speaker 5>it weekly, but we've had a lot of stuff going on,

0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:36.840
<v Speaker 5>so I'm kind of resetting it. I think he's gonna

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:40.879
<v Speaker 5>sit between twenty eight and thirty. And some of that's

0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:43.839
<v Speaker 5>by proxy, because it's like guys are falling off the list,

0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:46.280
<v Speaker 5>like Chris Bassett's kind of falling apart, Like I'm finally

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:49.120
<v Speaker 5>kind of getting done with Kevin Gossman. I'm kind of

0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:52.359
<v Speaker 5>getting done with Chris Bassett. So I think it's fair

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:56.440
<v Speaker 5>to value. It's fair to say, like Paul Skans could

0:44:56.440 --> 0:44:58.200
<v Speaker 5>be a top twenty five s p rest of season.

0:44:58.520 --> 0:45:01.680
<v Speaker 5>I think the disconnect is people are like, you hear

0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:05.080
<v Speaker 5>top twenty five, and then you're like, oh, top twenty five,

0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:09.439
<v Speaker 5>could that mean he's top fifteen overall? I think he's

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:12.960
<v Speaker 5>gonna sit in that twenty five range because it's like

0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:15.120
<v Speaker 5>it's gonna be tough for him to get wins and

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 5>go five every single inning, But like he's an exceptional talent,

0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:20.759
<v Speaker 5>so you should if you're trading him, I think you

0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:23.040
<v Speaker 5>should view him as a top twenty five. So that's

0:45:23.120 --> 0:45:25.839
<v Speaker 5>the value return at least I would want.

0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:29.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was gonna ask how much you know, weighing

0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:31.000
<v Speaker 2>into that is sort of what you mentioned about the

0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:34.000
<v Speaker 2>pitch count going up. The Pirates aren't very good, so

0:45:34.200 --> 0:45:36.160
<v Speaker 2>like they're not gonna be motivated to really push him

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:38.680
<v Speaker 2>beyond whatever their kind of innings limit that they've set

0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:41.040
<v Speaker 2>for him is. So you know, that is somebody to

0:45:41.080 --> 0:45:44.000
<v Speaker 2>keep in mind for really any top pitching prospect. But

0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:46.800
<v Speaker 2>you know in this case as well, is that innings

0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:49.279
<v Speaker 2>like you may get them but they are a question

0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:50.200
<v Speaker 2>mark at the very least.

0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:52.400
<v Speaker 5>And that's the positive could be though, is if the

0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:55.920
<v Speaker 5>Pirates keep winning. That's the thing, like the formidable rotation,

0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:58.799
<v Speaker 5>Jerry Jones, Paul Skains, Mitch Keller, that's your top three.

0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 5>There are a couple games out of the wild card.

0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:03.839
<v Speaker 5>I think right now we're divisionally like they're not over

0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:06.360
<v Speaker 5>five hundred. But it's like, oh, if this team just

0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:08.480
<v Speaker 5>said we're just not going to keep doing pirate things

0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:10.200
<v Speaker 5>and we're going to try to win win, maybe they

0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:12.560
<v Speaker 5>start pulling some more pieces and that's where you get

0:46:12.600 --> 0:46:16.320
<v Speaker 5>into maybe they'll cut the court a little bit on

0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:20.040
<v Speaker 5>being hyper sensitive about innings pitched or you know that

0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:23.000
<v Speaker 5>Jared Jones situation where he was on four days rest,

0:46:23.080 --> 0:46:25.239
<v Speaker 5>so they're like he's only going five and he pitched

0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:29.879
<v Speaker 5>fifty nine total pitches. That if this team is being competitive,

0:46:30.400 --> 0:46:33.240
<v Speaker 5>it's the best possible scenario for a guy like Paul Skins.

0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:38.200
<v Speaker 5>When they stop being competitive, then it's a cheap kind

0:46:38.239 --> 0:46:40.080
<v Speaker 5>of comp and it's the sore spot for you and

0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:43.120
<v Speaker 5>our old conversations about Uri Perez. But like Uri Perez

0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:46.800
<v Speaker 5>last year where you know, like they sent Eury Perez

0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:48.880
<v Speaker 5>down for a little bit, and then they were maintaining

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:51.080
<v Speaker 5>innings and stuff like that, like if the Pirates aren't winning,

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:55.280
<v Speaker 5>that's the worry that can happen for Paul Skins.

0:46:55.680 --> 0:46:57.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, for the rest of the year, we're gonna

0:46:57.560 --> 0:46:59.200
<v Speaker 2>talk about more than this Paul Skians. But I just

0:46:59.280 --> 0:47:02.000
<v Speaker 2>want to mention before get off the topic, to share

0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:07.360
<v Speaker 2>a sad story. I had tickets to Strasburg's debut and

0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:11.440
<v Speaker 2>I didn't end up going because it was a buddy

0:47:11.480 --> 0:47:15.880
<v Speaker 2>of mine in school and he was like, I have

0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:19.200
<v Speaker 2>these tickets, like I got, I got too, and you're

0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:21.279
<v Speaker 2>a big baseball fan. We weren't even that close to friends.

0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:22.480
<v Speaker 2>He some day that I knew, but he's like, I

0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:23.480
<v Speaker 2>know you're a big baseball fan.

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to come? I was like, holy cow,

0:47:26.239 --> 0:47:31.000
<v Speaker 1>yes I do. He texted me that afternoon.

0:47:30.520 --> 0:47:35.160
<v Speaker 2>After we got out of school and said, hey, my

0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:38.239
<v Speaker 2>parents said I can't go because it's a school night.

0:47:38.680 --> 0:47:40.880
<v Speaker 1>And they made me sell the tickets.

0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:43.120
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, why did you give them to me?

0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:44.360
<v Speaker 1>What are you doing?

0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:45.640
<v Speaker 5>Let me buy them.

0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I would have happily bought them.

0:47:48.239 --> 0:47:49.960
<v Speaker 2>So he sold them and I didn't get to go,

0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:53.000
<v Speaker 2>and then he struck out fourteen Pirates and looked amazing.

0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:56.000
<v Speaker 2>I will never forget the fact that I wasn't at

0:47:56.600 --> 0:47:59.400
<v Speaker 2>the debut of really the most tight pitching prospect that

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:00.359
<v Speaker 2>I can fad.

0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:02.879
<v Speaker 1>That is a sad story. So that's the other.

0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:05.399
<v Speaker 2>The other fun story quickly, high school teammate of mine

0:48:05.440 --> 0:48:07.520
<v Speaker 2>who also went by a worm. The name is Keith Worm,

0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:08.320
<v Speaker 2>and he went to uv A.

0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:11.080
<v Speaker 5>I played with him at actually worm like it's just

0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:13.919
<v Speaker 5>not like yours abbreviated worm. Was it worm worm?

0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

0:48:15.040 --> 0:48:15.560
<v Speaker 4>No, it was.

0:48:15.800 --> 0:48:19.560
<v Speaker 2>It was also like a nickname abbreviat. But he he

0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:21.880
<v Speaker 2>played at UVA and he got a hit off Strasbourg

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:23.280
<v Speaker 2>in the College World Series.

0:48:23.920 --> 0:48:26.239
<v Speaker 5>So that see, that would that's one of those things

0:48:26.360 --> 0:48:28.880
<v Speaker 5>like I would love to have, Like you'd love to

0:48:29.000 --> 0:48:30.680
<v Speaker 5>have that, Like, oh yeah I got a hit off

0:48:30.719 --> 0:48:33.400
<v Speaker 5>of like this immensely talented talk about.

0:48:33.160 --> 0:48:35.480
<v Speaker 1>It, like back the closest thing of that for me.

0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:37.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:48:38.040 --> 0:48:38.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:48:38.560 --> 0:48:41.120
<v Speaker 2>There was a kid in you know when I played

0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:43.960
<v Speaker 2>in high school who was go He was like signed

0:48:44.040 --> 0:48:45.839
<v Speaker 2>to pitch at uv A and he ended up hurting

0:48:45.880 --> 0:48:47.279
<v Speaker 2>his arm so he didn't. But he was really really

0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:51.160
<v Speaker 2>good and he threw a one hitter against us, and

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:53.640
<v Speaker 2>I didn't get the one hit, but I did work

0:48:53.680 --> 0:48:56.400
<v Speaker 2>the count to full before I struck out against him.

0:48:56.440 --> 0:48:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's right, that was That was my.

0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:02.640
<v Speaker 5>Best, but my best to as I caught a theoretical

0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:06.200
<v Speaker 5>touchdown from Casey Weldon, who used to be a quarterback

0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:08.759
<v Speaker 5>for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I think he played it

0:49:08.840 --> 0:49:09.800
<v Speaker 5>like Florida State.

0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:12.520
<v Speaker 4>Deep pass.

0:49:12.600 --> 0:49:14.520
<v Speaker 5>I was able to catch it over a cornerback, which

0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:16.759
<v Speaker 5>was really cool. And then I got to do a

0:49:16.920 --> 0:49:20.960
<v Speaker 5>media BP session at the Diamondbacks one time and I

0:49:21.120 --> 0:49:24.880
<v Speaker 5>had toughy ghost switches bat and they started launch and

0:49:25.000 --> 0:49:27.480
<v Speaker 5>we had the machine and I stepped in the box

0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:31.560
<v Speaker 5>and I was the only person to almost hit a homer.

0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:34.320
<v Speaker 5>I hit it. I hit the So this is on

0:49:34.440 --> 0:49:36.719
<v Speaker 5>Salt River Fields, the backfield, the one that the major

0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:41.040
<v Speaker 5>leaguers use, And I turned on one and I hit

0:49:41.880 --> 0:49:45.680
<v Speaker 5>three feet under the wall. Like so, I hit the wall,

0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:48.480
<v Speaker 5>but it was three feet from going over with toughy

0:49:48.520 --> 0:49:51.680
<v Speaker 5>ghost witch's bat. And it's like, had I just gotten

0:49:51.760 --> 0:49:53.680
<v Speaker 5>a little bit more and hit a homer with a

0:49:54.080 --> 0:49:56.359
<v Speaker 5>pro baseball player's bat on the field that they used,

0:49:56.360 --> 0:49:56.880
<v Speaker 5>that would.

0:49:56.640 --> 0:49:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Have been You could live on that the rest of

0:49:58.719 --> 0:49:59.120
<v Speaker 1>your life.

0:49:59.200 --> 0:50:02.000
<v Speaker 5>Oh, Yeah, yeah, the losers like us, so that that

0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:05.560
<v Speaker 5>would have filled my my loser a bucket for a

0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:08.239
<v Speaker 5>long time. Yeah, tell everybody, no big deal, but I hit.

0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:09.680
<v Speaker 4>A hole round the Diamondbacks facility.

0:50:09.960 --> 0:50:12.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, well we are losers, so we'll move on from

0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:15.640
<v Speaker 2>reliving our glory. He can talk about actual good baseball players.

0:50:16.400 --> 0:50:19.160
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to ask you about another picture. When we

0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:21.520
<v Speaker 2>had a friend of show, Brendan Tuma, on a couple

0:50:21.520 --> 0:50:23.200
<v Speaker 2>of weeks ago to talk with me and Mayor, he

0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:25.080
<v Speaker 2>talked a lot about Christian Scott and how about he

0:50:25.239 --> 0:50:27.279
<v Speaker 2>was a stash that he thought everybody should be hanging

0:50:27.280 --> 0:50:27.480
<v Speaker 2>on to.

0:50:27.960 --> 0:50:29.520
<v Speaker 1>And now he's come up. He looks good.

0:50:29.920 --> 0:50:31.279
<v Speaker 2>What do you make of the first couple of starts

0:50:31.320 --> 0:50:32.960
<v Speaker 2>of his career? And you know, I don't want to

0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:35.040
<v Speaker 2>call him like a like, Like he is breaking out

0:50:35.120 --> 0:50:37.000
<v Speaker 2>to a degree this year. He's moved up a lot

0:50:37.080 --> 0:50:38.800
<v Speaker 2>on a lot of the prospect rankings. He wasn't like

0:50:38.840 --> 0:50:41.600
<v Speaker 2>he was unheard of before, but like he looks really

0:50:41.640 --> 0:50:43.800
<v Speaker 2>really good in a way that he maybe didn't before.

0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:45.560
<v Speaker 1>So what do you make of Scott?

0:50:45.600 --> 0:50:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Both in terms of just evaluating him as a young pitcher,

0:50:47.920 --> 0:50:49.759
<v Speaker 2>but also what we've seen so far at the big

0:50:49.840 --> 0:50:50.319
<v Speaker 2>league level.

0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:52.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I was never like I was never big on

0:50:52.719 --> 0:50:54.799
<v Speaker 5>Christian Scott last year and even into this year because

0:50:54.800 --> 0:50:57.919
<v Speaker 5>I just hadn't seen enough statistically like things look good.

0:50:58.360 --> 0:51:00.560
<v Speaker 5>But it's one of those cases, and it's it's it's

0:51:00.600 --> 0:51:02.960
<v Speaker 5>truly in like evaluating prospects, like when you get to

0:51:03.000 --> 0:51:05.160
<v Speaker 5>see them live and you really or you know, you

0:51:05.280 --> 0:51:07.719
<v Speaker 5>really lock into multiple games if you're watching even on

0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:10.680
<v Speaker 5>like you know, MiLB dot TV or something, and you

0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:12.360
<v Speaker 5>can lock into a player, you just pick up so

0:51:12.480 --> 0:51:14.960
<v Speaker 5>much more. And I was even like a little bit like, oh,

0:51:15.040 --> 0:51:17.200
<v Speaker 5>let's wait and see. And then I got to catch

0:51:17.239 --> 0:51:18.520
<v Speaker 5>some of it early on and this year, and I

0:51:18.600 --> 0:51:20.480
<v Speaker 5>jumped on it. And he had been on that Prospects

0:51:20.480 --> 0:51:24.200
<v Speaker 5>to Stash article for some time. His first start. I

0:51:24.360 --> 0:51:27.160
<v Speaker 5>was so impressed, and I've said this multiple times, just

0:51:27.239 --> 0:51:31.200
<v Speaker 5>with his poise. I thought, cool cucumber. He was able

0:51:31.320 --> 0:51:34.640
<v Speaker 5>to not get phased. I loved his ability to command.

0:51:34.840 --> 0:51:36.439
<v Speaker 5>And I know I've said this a couple of times,

0:51:36.480 --> 0:51:39.360
<v Speaker 5>but like there there are a lot of things that

0:51:39.400 --> 0:51:42.160
<v Speaker 5>reminded me of Brandon Fought, Like what I wanted from

0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:44.640
<v Speaker 5>Brandon Fought when he came up because thought had to

0:51:44.719 --> 0:51:49.400
<v Speaker 5>adjust his pitch type to be like a sweeper, fastball

0:51:49.520 --> 0:51:52.360
<v Speaker 5>sinker type of guy, and I and the command was

0:51:52.360 --> 0:51:55.759
<v Speaker 5>a little bit spotty. Christian Scott had that right away,

0:51:55.840 --> 0:51:57.600
<v Speaker 5>and that was the thing that stood out to me

0:51:57.920 --> 0:52:02.440
<v Speaker 5>so much. He was the designation slider sweeper. You know

0:52:02.520 --> 0:52:05.480
<v Speaker 5>he'll use those, but the split finger can kind of

0:52:05.520 --> 0:52:07.800
<v Speaker 5>work as a sinker. And he was throwing split fingers.

0:52:07.840 --> 0:52:10.920
<v Speaker 5>He was throwing fastballs up on corners, he was throwing

0:52:10.960 --> 0:52:15.480
<v Speaker 5>the sweeper across the zone. I thought his stuff with

0:52:15.680 --> 0:52:19.439
<v Speaker 5>command looked tippy top. And then in the next start

0:52:19.560 --> 0:52:21.600
<v Speaker 5>got to hit up a little bit more. But you're

0:52:21.640 --> 0:52:23.879
<v Speaker 5>seeing more of it. I mean, over two starts he's

0:52:23.920 --> 0:52:27.600
<v Speaker 5>gone six. He's struck out at least six in both starts.

0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:30.560
<v Speaker 5>Walks haven't been a big issue. Twenty eight percent k

0:52:30.719 --> 0:52:34.360
<v Speaker 5>percentage to only six percent walk rate. That already is

0:52:34.480 --> 0:52:37.040
<v Speaker 5>better than where Skeins is at. And I think Christian

0:52:37.080 --> 0:52:39.520
<v Speaker 5>Scott isn't going to have the upside of the strikeouts,

0:52:39.560 --> 0:52:42.160
<v Speaker 5>but if he continues to have a low walk rate,

0:52:42.560 --> 0:52:44.279
<v Speaker 5>this is gonna work really well for him. Guys are

0:52:44.360 --> 0:52:47.840
<v Speaker 5>not barreling him up because of the command with those pitches.

0:52:48.400 --> 0:52:52.120
<v Speaker 5>I am very, very interested in Scott and he's been

0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:54.319
<v Speaker 5>a pick up for weeks weeks weeks before he got

0:52:54.400 --> 0:52:56.920
<v Speaker 5>called up. But what's so enticing now is I think

0:52:56.960 --> 0:53:00.480
<v Speaker 5>he's locked to a S. I think it would take like, oh,

0:53:01.120 --> 0:53:03.359
<v Speaker 5>we want to maintain this guy's innings and not ruin him,

0:53:03.360 --> 0:53:04.960
<v Speaker 5>blah blah blah for them to send him down like

0:53:05.000 --> 0:53:08.200
<v Speaker 5>they just sent Budo down. They've got spots in the rotation,

0:53:08.360 --> 0:53:10.640
<v Speaker 5>and I think he's going to kind of continue rolling it.

0:53:11.840 --> 0:53:14.080
<v Speaker 5>I think he's going to be one of those unherlded

0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:15.560
<v Speaker 5>bets at the end of the year. Like I wouldn't

0:53:15.560 --> 0:53:18.719
<v Speaker 5>be surprised in NL voting if like Christian Scott had

0:53:18.840 --> 0:53:21.040
<v Speaker 5>like you know, top five Rookie of the Year votes

0:53:21.120 --> 0:53:22.960
<v Speaker 5>or something like that when it's all said and done.

0:53:23.000 --> 0:53:24.760
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I'm very much into Christian Scott.

0:53:26.040 --> 0:53:28.120
<v Speaker 2>I want to ask you about Jackson Holliday because the

0:53:28.160 --> 0:53:30.880
<v Speaker 2>last time you were on, we spent like half an

0:53:30.920 --> 0:53:33.880
<v Speaker 2>hour just like praising him, and you know, obviously I

0:53:34.280 --> 0:53:35.560
<v Speaker 2>leave that up getting.

0:53:35.760 --> 0:53:36.799
<v Speaker 1>Giddy and over the moon.

0:53:36.920 --> 0:53:39.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it did not age entirely well, although I mean

0:53:39.719 --> 0:53:41.239
<v Speaker 2>it's not like we said he was going to come

0:53:41.280 --> 0:53:43.600
<v Speaker 2>out and be an MVP. From day one, Like he's

0:53:43.680 --> 0:53:46.600
<v Speaker 2>the twenty year old kid who moved really faster than minors,

0:53:46.640 --> 0:53:49.320
<v Speaker 2>and there's always an adjustment, you know. I've seen a

0:53:49.320 --> 0:53:51.560
<v Speaker 2>lot of people mention that, you know, the gap between

0:53:51.600 --> 0:53:53.880
<v Speaker 2>Triple A and the majors has basically never been bigger

0:53:53.920 --> 0:53:55.560
<v Speaker 2>than it is now in terms of the talent gap.

0:53:55.680 --> 0:53:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Like it's a hard transition to make.

0:53:57.280 --> 0:53:59.640
<v Speaker 2>So I want to ask you essentially what I just

0:54:00.320 --> 0:54:04.000
<v Speaker 2>which is how much are we panicking both for this

0:54:04.160 --> 0:54:06.239
<v Speaker 2>year and long term? I'm assuming the answer long term

0:54:06.360 --> 0:54:08.239
<v Speaker 2>is not at all. I mean that's literally only how

0:54:08.280 --> 0:54:11.720
<v Speaker 2>I feel yet, like literally zero. As a reminder for everybody,

0:54:12.560 --> 0:54:15.279
<v Speaker 2>the stat line two for thirty four in thirty six

0:54:15.360 --> 0:54:19.000
<v Speaker 2>played appearances, he scored five runs. He struck out in

0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:21.200
<v Speaker 2>like half of his app his played appearances, I believe

0:54:21.200 --> 0:54:24.239
<v Speaker 2>it was literally half eighteen of his thirty six played appearances.

0:54:24.880 --> 0:54:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Just so it's really overmatched.

0:54:26.000 --> 0:54:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Looked fine in the field, good bass runner, And I

0:54:29.640 --> 0:54:31.360
<v Speaker 2>actually kind of think he was starting to come around

0:54:31.480 --> 0:54:34.400
<v Speaker 2>a little in his last couple of games. Not like

0:54:35.000 --> 0:54:37.360
<v Speaker 2>getting hot, but I thought he looked a little more comfortable,

0:54:37.440 --> 0:54:39.759
<v Speaker 2>just anecdotally, like watching every Orioles game, I thought he

0:54:39.840 --> 0:54:41.600
<v Speaker 2>was looking a little more settled in at the plate,

0:54:41.640 --> 0:54:44.319
<v Speaker 2>even if it wasn't leading to results yet. But they

0:54:44.360 --> 0:54:47.280
<v Speaker 2>sent him back down. So long term, you and iron

0:54:47.560 --> 0:54:50.760
<v Speaker 2>lockstep he's still, you know, arguably the best prospect of baseball.

0:54:50.960 --> 0:54:54.080
<v Speaker 2>Not worried at all for this season if he gets

0:54:54.120 --> 0:54:56.719
<v Speaker 2>called back up. When he gets called back up, how

0:54:56.800 --> 0:54:59.040
<v Speaker 2>will you be reacting to that in any kind of

0:54:59.160 --> 0:54:59.920
<v Speaker 2>non keeper form.

0:55:00.760 --> 0:55:03.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so I guess you could look at it like

0:55:03.520 --> 0:55:06.000
<v Speaker 5>I will be a glutton for punishment in that respect,

0:55:06.080 --> 0:55:08.680
<v Speaker 5>because here's one thing I do believe is when he

0:55:08.920 --> 0:55:12.279
<v Speaker 5>is back up, he will have answered. There's a lot

0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:15.160
<v Speaker 5>of public pressure early on when he didn't make the

0:55:15.200 --> 0:55:17.680
<v Speaker 5>opening day roster and they're like he needs to work

0:55:17.719 --> 0:55:20.040
<v Speaker 5>on hitting lefties, and first at bat in the minors

0:55:20.120 --> 0:55:22.480
<v Speaker 5>he hits off a left like it felt like a

0:55:22.560 --> 0:55:25.040
<v Speaker 5>whole bunch of nonsense that they sold us. Now it

0:55:25.160 --> 0:55:27.759
<v Speaker 5>definitely is. It's more of that like, oh yeah, we're

0:55:27.800 --> 0:55:29.360
<v Speaker 5>not in management of baseball, and they knew what they

0:55:29.400 --> 0:55:32.200
<v Speaker 5>were talking about. So I'm leading this to say the

0:55:32.320 --> 0:55:35.560
<v Speaker 5>public pressure is gone. He failed at the major league level,

0:55:35.640 --> 0:55:37.560
<v Speaker 5>they sent him back down, and they're going to have

0:55:37.680 --> 0:55:39.839
<v Speaker 5>clear cut things. Part of it might just be get

0:55:39.880 --> 0:55:42.200
<v Speaker 5>your head straight and then it's going to be you know,

0:55:42.360 --> 0:55:44.440
<v Speaker 5>this is what didn't work at the major league level.

0:55:44.480 --> 0:55:45.920
<v Speaker 5>Here's what we need to work on. So what I'm

0:55:45.960 --> 0:55:49.560
<v Speaker 5>saying is when he comes up, when that happens, I

0:55:49.640 --> 0:55:52.839
<v Speaker 5>feel confident that they will feel confident and they're going

0:55:52.920 --> 0:55:55.400
<v Speaker 5>to have him up to get it bats. He won't

0:55:55.440 --> 0:55:58.080
<v Speaker 5>be there to sit. So when he comes back up,

0:55:58.800 --> 0:56:00.799
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to feel more calm, confident, and I will

0:56:00.880 --> 0:56:05.520
<v Speaker 5>pick him up in every spot because long term, everything

0:56:05.600 --> 0:56:09.360
<v Speaker 5>I said before still stands. I think he's a high contact,

0:56:10.000 --> 0:56:13.000
<v Speaker 5>low strikeout guy, even though that's been his bugaboo. The

0:56:13.120 --> 0:56:15.200
<v Speaker 5>guy gets on base, has always had an over four

0:56:15.280 --> 0:56:17.960
<v Speaker 5>hundred OVP. I thought he was going to run. He

0:56:18.040 --> 0:56:20.680
<v Speaker 5>just didn't get on base to even run, so that,

0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:23.520
<v Speaker 5>you know, it's really tough to say. I just don't

0:56:23.520 --> 0:56:26.760
<v Speaker 5>think there's anything to pull from the debut. Sometimes that happens,

0:56:26.800 --> 0:56:30.080
<v Speaker 5>sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes there's gleaning ideas of the player.

0:56:30.160 --> 0:56:32.880
<v Speaker 5>I don't think there's anything to pull from it. It

0:56:33.040 --> 0:56:36.080
<v Speaker 5>may not be right, you know, because maybe he's gonna

0:56:36.120 --> 0:56:38.960
<v Speaker 5>come back, and you know, I assume when he comes back,

0:56:39.440 --> 0:56:42.160
<v Speaker 5>he's going to get the same treatment as far as

0:56:42.239 --> 0:56:44.520
<v Speaker 5>how pitchers were attacking him, and that is going to

0:56:44.560 --> 0:56:46.280
<v Speaker 5>be the thing he'll be working on in the minor,

0:56:46.320 --> 0:56:50.120
<v Speaker 5>so that will be very telling. But I don't have

0:56:50.200 --> 0:56:53.000
<v Speaker 5>any stash. I'm not trying to stash right now. Stashing

0:56:53.080 --> 0:56:57.560
<v Speaker 5>prospects is an overall net failure for this year, and

0:56:58.320 --> 0:57:00.319
<v Speaker 5>even though I think we're going to talk about guy

0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:02.600
<v Speaker 5>that's going to be coming up very soon, stashing in

0:57:02.680 --> 0:57:05.320
<v Speaker 5>general has been a net failure. That you can do

0:57:05.520 --> 0:57:09.640
<v Speaker 5>things in better spots. Anyways, I'm fine with with not

0:57:09.880 --> 0:57:11.560
<v Speaker 5>doing that, and I'm not stashing a lot of these

0:57:11.600 --> 0:57:13.880
<v Speaker 5>players because I think it's a super unknown. And I

0:57:13.960 --> 0:57:16.439
<v Speaker 5>also don't think the next big oriole to be called

0:57:16.480 --> 0:57:19.160
<v Speaker 5>up is Jackson Holliday. I think I think it has

0:57:19.240 --> 0:57:22.480
<v Speaker 5>to be Kobe Mayo. Kobe Mayo's destroyed, so that makes

0:57:22.520 --> 0:57:25.920
<v Speaker 5>it even tougher for him unless there's a major injury

0:57:26.440 --> 0:57:28.640
<v Speaker 5>or two to the middle infield and it's like, well,

0:57:28.680 --> 0:57:30.520
<v Speaker 5>we clearly have to move him. But the problem is

0:57:30.560 --> 0:57:32.600
<v Speaker 5>is Jordan Westburg can go over to second, Mayo can

0:57:32.680 --> 0:57:35.400
<v Speaker 5>play third. So that's I think Holiday is going to

0:57:35.440 --> 0:57:37.160
<v Speaker 5>have a longer road to get back. But I do

0:57:37.320 --> 0:57:39.800
<v Speaker 5>believe when he is back up, that's going to be

0:57:39.840 --> 0:57:42.160
<v Speaker 5>the time to trust because he'll have answered those questions

0:57:42.200 --> 0:57:43.280
<v Speaker 5>that the Orioles were looking for.

0:57:44.120 --> 0:57:46.040
<v Speaker 1>You read my mind on the on the stash question.

0:57:46.200 --> 0:57:46.720
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting.

0:57:46.920 --> 0:57:49.720
<v Speaker 2>So the thing with Mayo that I've been I think

0:57:49.760 --> 0:57:52.280
<v Speaker 2>he's like ready, Like, I think he's a I love

0:57:52.400 --> 0:57:54.320
<v Speaker 2>him as a prospect obviously, like both as an Orioles

0:57:54.360 --> 0:57:56.240
<v Speaker 2>fan and for fantasy, like I would love to see

0:57:56.320 --> 0:57:58.680
<v Speaker 2>him the big leagues. I've been kind of thinking, given

0:57:58.760 --> 0:58:00.960
<v Speaker 2>his youth, give that there was some like swing and

0:58:01.000 --> 0:58:02.440
<v Speaker 2>miss with the strikeouts.

0:58:02.000 --> 0:58:05.880
<v Speaker 5>And there's still at Crimes. May turned over and he

0:58:06.040 --> 0:58:07.240
<v Speaker 5>was having some strikeout issues.

0:58:07.280 --> 0:58:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, still is.

0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:11.560
<v Speaker 2>I've been wondering if Dave were kind of of the

0:58:11.640 --> 0:58:14.520
<v Speaker 2>mindset of maybe waiting for him to be like a

0:58:14.560 --> 0:58:17.800
<v Speaker 2>September call up and keeping that eligibility to compete for

0:58:17.920 --> 0:58:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Rookie of the Year next year and try and get

0:58:19.840 --> 0:58:21.640
<v Speaker 2>them a pick in the future, because he seems like

0:58:21.680 --> 0:58:23.600
<v Speaker 2>the most obvious candidate. You know, a guy like Heston

0:58:23.640 --> 0:58:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Kerstad is like twenty five years old already, and I

0:58:27.920 --> 0:58:30.480
<v Speaker 2>know he just got sent back down Curestad, but like,

0:58:30.880 --> 0:58:33.320
<v Speaker 2>you're not saving a twenty five year old for another

0:58:33.400 --> 0:58:35.000
<v Speaker 2>year just to try and get Rookie of the Year, right.

0:58:35.200 --> 0:58:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Connor Norby is I think a really good prospect, but

0:58:38.720 --> 0:58:40.600
<v Speaker 2>probably blocked enough that he's not gonna win rooky of

0:58:40.600 --> 0:58:42.280
<v Speaker 2>the Year next year, like Mayo's kind of the and

0:58:42.640 --> 0:58:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Holiday being as good as he is, expecting him to

0:58:45.120 --> 0:58:46.960
<v Speaker 2>lose that eligibility this year. So Mayo is kind of

0:58:46.960 --> 0:58:48.400
<v Speaker 2>the one where I thought maybe if they were trying

0:58:48.440 --> 0:58:50.720
<v Speaker 2>to play that system. Also the fact that they don't

0:58:50.720 --> 0:58:53.240
<v Speaker 2>really need the infielder. I mean they do now that

0:58:53.360 --> 0:58:56.240
<v Speaker 2>Holiday's down and they're starting Mateo or Arius every day.

0:58:57.160 --> 0:58:59.040
<v Speaker 2>But for all those reasons, I thought that Mayo might

0:58:59.120 --> 0:59:03.000
<v Speaker 2>be one that they did didn't aggressively promote. But I

0:59:03.040 --> 0:59:06.240
<v Speaker 2>mean he's he's leading the organization in home runs, then

0:59:06.240 --> 0:59:09.280
<v Speaker 2>the ones he hits are bombs, and I just I

0:59:09.400 --> 0:59:11.840
<v Speaker 2>follow all the Orioles, you know, minor league accounts, and

0:59:11.880 --> 0:59:15.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm watching these videos every day while the Orioles score

0:59:15.080 --> 0:59:16.920
<v Speaker 2>one run, not that that happens often, they're a good

0:59:16.920 --> 0:59:18.959
<v Speaker 2>team at the big league level, but the oorial score

0:59:19.040 --> 0:59:21.000
<v Speaker 2>run run. Oh look, Mayo went three for five with

0:59:21.080 --> 0:59:23.600
<v Speaker 2>a double and a home run and eight RBI, and

0:59:23.680 --> 0:59:25.560
<v Speaker 2>it just seems like every day that's happening. I do

0:59:25.720 --> 0:59:28.200
<v Speaker 2>really like Mayo, but like I'm worried that they won't

0:59:28.240 --> 0:59:31.280
<v Speaker 2>call him up, you know, that soon. But that's interesting

0:59:31.320 --> 0:59:33.400
<v Speaker 2>that you kind of highlight him as the next big

0:59:33.520 --> 0:59:36.240
<v Speaker 2>call up. I do want to ask about h you know,

0:59:36.760 --> 0:59:40.240
<v Speaker 2>kind of the other stashes you alluded to, if not holiday,

0:59:40.360 --> 0:59:42.800
<v Speaker 2>because it's you know what we've already seen and he's

0:59:42.800 --> 0:59:44.160
<v Speaker 2>a guy will pick up but don't really want to

0:59:44.200 --> 0:59:46.560
<v Speaker 2>hold on to. Who are the guys the one or

0:59:46.600 --> 0:59:48.680
<v Speaker 2>two names at the top of the stash rankings right now?

0:59:49.360 --> 0:59:51.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so you know, we'll do a segment on leading

0:59:51.760 --> 0:59:54.320
<v Speaker 5>off and I'll have my article, my prospects to stash article.

0:59:54.400 --> 0:59:57.160
<v Speaker 5>Last week, what I did was I lowered the number

0:59:57.360 --> 0:59:59.800
<v Speaker 5>of guys that I was writing up that are of

1:00:00.080 --> 1:00:03.080
<v Speaker 5>quote the idea of stashing, by the way, uses air

1:00:03.160 --> 1:00:05.120
<v Speaker 5>quotes right now, because I know there's some people like, oh,

1:00:05.160 --> 1:00:07.160
<v Speaker 5>you don't stash any and it's like, well, this year's

1:00:07.200 --> 1:00:10.440
<v Speaker 5>kind of been right, But the idea of stashing is like,

1:00:10.480 --> 1:00:11.720
<v Speaker 5>these are the guys that are going to be close

1:00:11.760 --> 1:00:13.960
<v Speaker 5>to get some production and then i'd have a watch list.

1:00:14.200 --> 1:00:16.560
<v Speaker 5>So this past week I lowered the number of guys

1:00:16.600 --> 1:00:19.920
<v Speaker 5>that you're actually worth quote unquote stashing. And I raised

1:00:20.200 --> 1:00:22.760
<v Speaker 5>the watch list players because it's like, I don't know,

1:00:23.000 --> 1:00:24.680
<v Speaker 5>I don't know when these guys could come up, but

1:00:24.720 --> 1:00:26.800
<v Speaker 5>you should. You should have these guys in mind. The

1:00:26.840 --> 1:00:28.480
<v Speaker 5>reason I'm telling you this is like there's been a

1:00:28.560 --> 1:00:31.600
<v Speaker 5>mount rushmore of players that have sat at the tippy

1:00:31.680 --> 1:00:35.080
<v Speaker 5>top of like worth stashing, and at this point it's

1:00:35.120 --> 1:00:37.640
<v Speaker 5>really only two players. And unfortunately the article is probably

1:00:37.680 --> 1:00:40.560
<v Speaker 5>going to be the same in that respect, though other

1:00:40.680 --> 1:00:43.240
<v Speaker 5>names will start coming up, and number one is Junior Caminaro.

1:00:43.640 --> 1:00:48.400
<v Speaker 5>But the Junior Camenaro side got more interesting today. I

1:00:48.440 --> 1:00:50.640
<v Speaker 5>think it was today or yesterday as we're doing this,

1:00:51.800 --> 1:00:53.720
<v Speaker 5>is he played second base for the first time. He

1:00:53.800 --> 1:00:55.680
<v Speaker 5>finally got off because he's played entire he was a

1:00:55.840 --> 1:00:57.919
<v Speaker 5>shortstop at some point and then he's played third base

1:00:58.120 --> 1:01:03.080
<v Speaker 5>all year. He started second base, and last week just

1:01:03.120 --> 1:01:06.440
<v Speaker 5>for fun, because I absolutely nailed the Paul Skins call up,

1:01:06.680 --> 1:01:10.880
<v Speaker 5>I decided I'm gonna do another prediction, and my prediction

1:01:11.000 --> 1:01:13.400
<v Speaker 5>for cam and Aro because there's this negative article that

1:01:13.480 --> 1:01:16.320
<v Speaker 5>came out about the Rays and holding him down and

1:01:16.360 --> 1:01:19.000
<v Speaker 5>they're not looking to bring him up anytime soon. I

1:01:19.120 --> 1:01:22.240
<v Speaker 5>said May twenty fourth, and I did that because I

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<v Speaker 5>think that gives enough time for him to have consistent

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<v Speaker 5>at bats if they did want to do a positional thing.

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<v Speaker 5>That gives enough time. And really, there was a day

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<v Speaker 5>off in between this time period. There's a day off

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<v Speaker 5>on the twenty third, So I'm just gonna stick there.

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<v Speaker 5>There's my update, and I feel better about it because

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<v Speaker 5>he played second base and start at Brandon lau Is.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he's hurt right now. Maybe this timeline gets

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<v Speaker 5>pushed up and it's even sooner, but his bat has

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<v Speaker 5>just been live, and I know unfortunately all the guys

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<v Speaker 5>that get called up, they've been hitting over three hundred.

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<v Speaker 5>That's where he is the positives. It's been a low

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<v Speaker 5>strikeout rate, first time since Dominican Summer League. He has

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<v Speaker 5>a double digi walk rate at tripa A. He's hitting

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<v Speaker 5>over three hundred. He's got a three almost four or

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<v Speaker 5>five slash. He's at seven homers in twenty four games.

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<v Speaker 5>He has opposite field power for days. He's got an

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<v Speaker 5>incredible sense of the plate, which I've always loved, and

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think he's going to strike out a bunch.

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<v Speaker 5>I do think that pure raw power is going to

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<v Speaker 5>play well for him, good hard hit numbers, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>good hard hit and barreling. That's the type of guy

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<v Speaker 5>that he is. And now that he's playing second base,

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<v Speaker 5>they're finding some spots for him because Isak Prates has

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<v Speaker 5>been great. He really has been a really good player.

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<v Speaker 5>So the only option at this point had been with

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<v Speaker 5>then you d h Camonaro or parades. But maybe they're

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<v Speaker 5>now looking at it and saying, screw it, we can

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<v Speaker 5>get Cameron Aro in that lineup because Caballero has played

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<v Speaker 5>well at shortstop. You've got a med Rosario who's playing around,

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<v Speaker 5>and they're gonna look. My idea would be for Caminaro

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<v Speaker 5>to be the everyday second basement and then he also

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<v Speaker 5>has flexibility.

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<v Speaker 4>To play third.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what they value. They value players that can play

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<v Speaker 5>around the field. Cow Manzardo told me year and a

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<v Speaker 5>half ago they wanted him to pick up a third

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<v Speaker 5>base glove in spring training because they wanted to have

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<v Speaker 5>that flexibility, and then they traded him. But cam and

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<v Speaker 5>Aro doing this, I think that is the most telling

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<v Speaker 5>sign of this raised team. So I'm gonna kind of

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<v Speaker 5>stick to it. I think we're in a ten to

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<v Speaker 5>two week window where Cameron Aro could come up and

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<v Speaker 5>the new position helps, and he is, you know, one

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<v Speaker 5>of the more prolific bats out there. So that is like,

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<v Speaker 5>that's the number one guy.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know the other guy that we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>in the pre show who I am really excited to

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<v Speaker 2>see in the big leagues is James Wood. You have

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<v Speaker 2>Cameron now ahead of Wood in terms of your STASH rankings.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and Stash in Dynasty, they're both next to each other.

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<v Speaker 5>James Wood is immensely interesting, especially from this list because

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<v Speaker 5>he's the power speed guy. I didn't even realize this

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<v Speaker 5>until I just look now. He has a lower K

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<v Speaker 5>percentage than Cameron Aro in the minors so far, and

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<v Speaker 5>he has like double the games, which is very impressive

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<v Speaker 5>because last year in Double A James Wood had a

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<v Speaker 5>thirty three percent K percentage. I watched a bunch when

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<v Speaker 5>he was a padre and he has some bad swing

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<v Speaker 5>and miss. He has really worked and changed on that.

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<v Speaker 5>He has a almost career high walk percentage at fifteen percent,

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<v Speaker 5>an under twenty percent K percentage, seven homers, nine stolen bases,

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<v Speaker 5>a three four five slash. He's hitting three point fifty

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<v Speaker 5>seven in Triple A right now. This is literally, I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>the Nationals are putting out Nixon, Zell and Jacob Young,

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<v Speaker 5>and I don't want to be dismissive of this entire

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<v Speaker 5>lineup or anything like that. You know, Victor Roebliss is

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<v Speaker 5>out there in right field right now. Any other team

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<v Speaker 5>they're gonna go and they're gonna put out James Wood.

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<v Speaker 5>But this team is I would not be shocked. I

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<v Speaker 5>suppose if they held him back to September to try

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<v Speaker 5>to get extra pit compensation, but at the same time

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<v Speaker 5>going back to Kobe Mayo or James Wood, Like, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know what you what is the growth of keeping

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<v Speaker 5>a guy like James Wood who obviously has this Like

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<v Speaker 5>you tell me what are the things that need to

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<v Speaker 5>be fixed? And this is kind of rhetorical. I'm asking

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<v Speaker 5>is like, Okay, what do you guys want him to

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<v Speaker 5>work on? Because he's hitting three fifty seven, he's running,

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<v Speaker 5>he's stealing, he's not striking out, he's walking more than

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<v Speaker 5>he's ever done. He's doing everything you could do. Is

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<v Speaker 5>it advantageous to keep him down here? Is it advantageous

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<v Speaker 5>for Mayo to stay down with the team, maybe to

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<v Speaker 5>work on strikeouts? But what do you get if you

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<v Speaker 5>keep them there for four months? What do you get

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<v Speaker 5>with James? Would you keep them there for four months?

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<v Speaker 2>Outside of it, I've been a huge proponent of in

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<v Speaker 2>talking to my friends about all this, like kind of

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<v Speaker 2>log in with the Orioles about like just like trade

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<v Speaker 2>somebody to make it happen, because even if you take

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<v Speaker 2>a short term hit, like while they're adjusting, because at

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<v Speaker 2>a certain point, I'm a big believer in if you

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<v Speaker 2>have solved a level and are stuck there, it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to hinder your development, Like it's gonna actually be by

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<v Speaker 2>not continuing to be like, oh I need to grow

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<v Speaker 2>into the next step.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I've already solved this. I just think it's bad

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<v Speaker 1>for you.

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<v Speaker 2>A team like the Orioles, I get it a little

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<v Speaker 2>more because they're like, we don't want to trade Ryan

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<v Speaker 2>or Herd because he's getting the crap out of the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>and like we want to win the games.

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<v Speaker 1>The Nationals the only.

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<v Speaker 2>Thought process with them, and I know they've got off

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<v Speaker 2>to a better start than you know, kind of expected

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, but like the only thought for them should

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<v Speaker 2>be what is best for James. Would So if you

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<v Speaker 2>think James Wood has solved the minors, he needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be on the next plane to DC. Like there's just

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<v Speaker 2>like to me, that's the only the only calculus is

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<v Speaker 2>has he solved this level?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, time to call him up.

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<v Speaker 5>And like I'd love to hear that, Like, so you

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<v Speaker 5>tell me not again, this is rhetorical to their management,

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<v Speaker 5>tell me what the thing that he hasn't solved? So

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<v Speaker 5>if he has solved it and he has got this

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<v Speaker 5>level down, do you like, is it important that you

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<v Speaker 5>see sixty games of consistent production or do you think

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<v Speaker 5>maybe at the point where a guy is hitting three

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<v Speaker 5>point fifty seven, there are around two hundred plate appearances,

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<v Speaker 5>is that maybe enough to give them more of a

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<v Speaker 5>challenge and to be fair, like, you know, maybe we're

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<v Speaker 5>being hyper aggressive about it, but when they're putting out

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<v Speaker 5>like the Merrill Vargas and Victor Robliss and Jacob Young,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's like, yeah, James Wood would instantly be the

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<v Speaker 5>best the medical player on this team. And then guess

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<v Speaker 5>what I think from a developmental standpoint, it is beneficial

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<v Speaker 5>for that guy to get the major league time and

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<v Speaker 5>then if the warts are there, you go and fix them.

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<v Speaker 5>It doesn't not everybody has to be Joe Adell where

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<v Speaker 5>it's three years of disastrous you threw them into the

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<v Speaker 5>fire and it didn't work, and it's like, well, no,

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<v Speaker 5>be very hands on, but why do not the amount

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<v Speaker 5>Creig Council. I didn't get to say this earlier, Cret

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<v Speaker 5>Council years ago when talking about Hestin and Kira or

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<v Speaker 5>Kesten Heira, I said Heston kers yeah, yeah, he was

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<v Speaker 5>having a rough time. And Crek Council was like, listen

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<v Speaker 5>the jump because you said this earlier. The jump from

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<v Speaker 5>Triple A to the majors is as big of a

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<v Speaker 5>gap as it's ever been in baseball. And the more

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<v Speaker 5>that we have, I mean, we have new pitch introductions,

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<v Speaker 5>the sweepers are taking over this year. It's the year

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<v Speaker 5>of the splitter, high fastballs. There are that the hands

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<v Speaker 5>on nists that happens in the lower levels I think

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<v Speaker 5>would kind of astonish people because I think we have

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<v Speaker 5>an idea of like what base and every team is.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a group of guys with tablets that are like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>you did this and this, and it's not the case

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<v Speaker 5>the amount of in person work and attention that happens

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<v Speaker 5>at the major league level that doesn't happen at minor

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<v Speaker 5>league levels would throw people off. So why not take

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<v Speaker 5>a guy who's doing everything right, get them to the majors.

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<v Speaker 5>Let the organization, the top people in the organization analytically

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<v Speaker 5>break down everything, especially if they're struggling, and then you

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<v Speaker 5>take that down. Same thing I would have said about

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<v Speaker 5>Jackson Holiday. Some teams just think let a guy go,

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<v Speaker 5>and maybe the Nationals would do that. But yeah, this

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<v Speaker 5>is all the like, this is just the criminal stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>We look at Camanaro and James Wood and we see

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<v Speaker 5>how successful they are and we want to see them up.

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<v Speaker 5>Executives have a pretty good argument right now, and they

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<v Speaker 5>can go, Okay, that's cool. Well look at Jackson Holiday,

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<v Speaker 5>look at com Manzardo, look at Jordan Beck. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>list goes on and on. They can kind of keep

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<v Speaker 5>doing that. But if you're going to get into the

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<v Speaker 5>stash game, those of the two that I think James

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<v Speaker 5>Wood and Camnaro are within two or three weeks. There's

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<v Speaker 5>a host of other players that are worth the common conversation,

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<v Speaker 5>but I do think it's circumstantial. It's like if if

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<v Speaker 5>there was an injury in the Orioles rotation. Kde Povich

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<v Speaker 5>is one of the first players I would think that

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<v Speaker 5>would come up to the majors. Adam Maser just got

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<v Speaker 5>called up the Triple A with the Padres. He's had

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<v Speaker 5>a phenomenal year. If there was a big injury in

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<v Speaker 5>the rotation for the Padres, that would be a guy.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think there's a lot of situational prospect issues.

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<v Speaker 5>There's only so many that force their way on, and

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<v Speaker 5>I think Camonaro and James Wood are the players that

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<v Speaker 5>are forcing their way on.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying he's the same stylistically or that he

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<v Speaker 2>is as good as what I'm about to say the

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<v Speaker 2>name I'm about to throw out, But when I think

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<v Speaker 2>of James would I think of Ellie da la Cruz

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<v Speaker 2>in the sense that they're just way too big for

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<v Speaker 2>the positions they play, and yet they're still.

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<v Speaker 1>Like some of the best prospects. Somebody asked me, like

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<v Speaker 1>our speed.

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<v Speaker 5>And like a year ago when I was on CBS,

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<v Speaker 5>someone asked, They're like, who is the next Ellie de

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<v Speaker 5>la Cruz And I said, all right, I'll give you

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<v Speaker 5>the name. And it's not just because of a one

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<v Speaker 5>hundred percent of the physical presence, but you're talking about

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<v Speaker 5>a player that puts up crazy big evs. James Wood

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<v Speaker 5>is a guy that can hit when one eighteen that

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<v Speaker 5>runs way bigger than their physical style. It is James Wood,

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<v Speaker 5>and James Wood does have a physical similarity to Ellie

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<v Speaker 5>day La Cruz, though he's bigger. But James Wood is

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<v Speaker 5>the type of guy that, like I said, one eighteen

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<v Speaker 5>Evs could hit thirty homers, could steal thirty bases like that,

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<v Speaker 5>is a guy that could come onto the scene and

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<v Speaker 5>go nuts. The difference between, ironically, between those two guys

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<v Speaker 5>was at one point I really would have said, like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>James is actually just like Ellie. But James has so

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<v Speaker 5>vastly improved his back to ball skills and his strikeout

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<v Speaker 5>percentage and making good outs and putting you know, barrels

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<v Speaker 5>on the ball that it's like James Wood might have

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<v Speaker 5>a higher ceiling at that point. I don't think he's

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<v Speaker 5>gonna steal like Ellie. Like Ellie has proven. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>the best thing I've done this year was that lay

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<v Speaker 5>day La Cruz to lead the league in stolen bases.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's doing that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he's doing that in the droves right now. But

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<v Speaker 5>like James Wood is the type of guy the in

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<v Speaker 5>the future, the comp might be maybe more similar to

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<v Speaker 5>like an Aaron Judge. You know, that might be where

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<v Speaker 5>it goes at some point. But yeah, yeah, the main

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<v Speaker 5>crux here is, like you want to talk about dynamic

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<v Speaker 5>skill sets, James Wood has that feel of a guy

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<v Speaker 5>that could lead the league in homers and stolen bases

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<v Speaker 5>in like a month.

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<v Speaker 4>He's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've been watching a lot of clips lately

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<v Speaker 2>from one of my favorite movies the last decade, which

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<v Speaker 2>is The Martian. And speaking of The Martian, Jason Dominguez

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<v Speaker 2>is rehabbing, so we're kind of up on it on time,

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<v Speaker 2>But just some quick thoughts from you on you know

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<v Speaker 2>what it means, what we'll see from him when he

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<v Speaker 2>gets back to the big league level and is healthy again.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, if he's sitting out there, I'm picking him up.

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<v Speaker 5>He's still one of my favorite from a dynasty perspective.

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<v Speaker 5>This is probably the last opportunities for buys if they

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<v Speaker 5>even exist, because he just started his rehab assignment and

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<v Speaker 5>that's a huge thing. He's going to get back into

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<v Speaker 5>playing time. He got a hit in his first game.

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<v Speaker 5>He's an insane talent that I think people have kind

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<v Speaker 5>of forgot about. So you know, in Dynasty, I think

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<v Speaker 5>he's a great buy that it still might be a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit cheaper in redraft to be sitting out there.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess I don't assume him is like the prospects

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<v Speaker 5>to stash because he's made his major league debut. But

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<v Speaker 5>if he is out there, i'd stash him because I

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<v Speaker 5>think you're probably two weeks ish away, just however long

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<v Speaker 5>they feel the rehab assignment has to go. And I

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<v Speaker 5>don't think it's you're gonna throw him back into Triple A.

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<v Speaker 5>I think you're gonna throw him right back into the

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<v Speaker 5>major So there's a little bit of a glut there

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<v Speaker 5>with some of the guys that are up. But maybe

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<v Speaker 5>they you know, maybe they cut bait with a with

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<v Speaker 5>a Trent Grisham, and you know, Dimingez can get back

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<v Speaker 5>in the outfield. Maybe he's dhing a little bit. You

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<v Speaker 5>keep stanting at the DH like Jason, Dimingez is going

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<v Speaker 5>to get back in that lineup. So if he is

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<v Speaker 5>out there, you should get him. And I have pretty

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<v Speaker 5>high expectations because I was very impressed with the major

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<v Speaker 5>league debut that he had hit two fifty eight four

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<v Speaker 5>homers in eight games. I think he's gonna kind of

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<v Speaker 5>pick right back up.

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<v Speaker 1>Welsh.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always a pleasure to talk to you. Thanks so

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<v Speaker 2>much for coming on. You know, I appreciate you making

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<v Speaker 2>the time and giving us all this knowledge. Everybody stick around.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be right back with Mayor on the other side.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Mayor, let's wrap up here with our weekend excitement.

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<v Speaker 1>I will go first.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't a super long list, so I just highlighted kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the thing that stood out to me most, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is Paul skeins against the Cubs again, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>before innings.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven strikeouts in that first start.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, like we talked about this, everybody listening just heard

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<v Speaker 2>me talk about this with Welsh, you know, most typed

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<v Speaker 2>pitching debut since Steven Strasburg. I'm still salty about having

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<v Speaker 2>to give away the tickets for Strasburg's debut, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a story everybody heard during.

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<v Speaker 1>The interview with Welsh.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, just really really exciting, you know, pitching prospect

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<v Speaker 2>here finally got the call up, and he's going up

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<v Speaker 2>against the same team he faced in the first game out.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see if he does better. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to see if he goes into the into the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>deeper into the game. Not that he was awful in

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<v Speaker 2>that first start, but you know it was your first

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<v Speaker 2>start ever. You know, it's you never know how a

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<v Speaker 2>guy's going to react to that. But I'm just really

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<v Speaker 2>excited to see what he does over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure, Paul Skins is the obvious one. We

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<v Speaker 3>kind of talked before the show and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really know what I wanted to see. Paul

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<v Speaker 3>Skins is a really good one. That's the obvious one.

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<v Speaker 3>Matt Perrault the host of our Daily Juice podcast over

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<v Speaker 3>on the Betting Pro Feed, which I encourage everyone to

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<v Speaker 3>check out. He does a daily really quick hitting you know,

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<v Speaker 3>here's what I'm betting for the day. It's a it's

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<v Speaker 3>a really enjoyable fifteen minute, you know, ten to fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>minute podcasts every morning.

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<v Speaker 4>Matt Parol is actually going to be at that game.

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<v Speaker 3>He's he's flying from Vegas to Chicago to go see

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<v Speaker 3>Paul Skins. So excited to hear how he how he

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<v Speaker 3>thinks he does. We kind of default to pitching matchups

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<v Speaker 3>or kind of team matchups. I'm like, what we're excited

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<v Speaker 3>for this weekend and we're kind of talking. Before the show,

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<v Speaker 3>I was kind of just you know, you were you

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<v Speaker 3>were talking about whatever you were talking about. It wasn't listening,

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<v Speaker 3>but I was looking at the weekend slate and I

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<v Speaker 3>was just kind of like, ah, I don't really know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm looking forward to. Like, I'm definitely looking forward

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<v Speaker 3>to watching baseball, but I mean I want to see

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<v Speaker 3>Jack Flaherty's at Gallen, both because I think that's a

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<v Speaker 3>good pitching matchup and because I have a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>those guys in my leagues, so that's a matchup. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>looking forward to Freddie Perlta justin Berlander. I don't have

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<v Speaker 3>any Verlander, but I have a bunch of Peralta and

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<v Speaker 3>that's a good pitching matchup. And I'm I just keep

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<v Speaker 3>waiting for the Astros to turn back into the Astros

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<v Speaker 3>and like we said, are they going to sell if

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<v Speaker 3>they keep plummeting? You know, not that I thought I

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<v Speaker 3>want them to do better. I'm ready to not see

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<v Speaker 3>the Houston and the Alcs this year. Enough is enough

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<v Speaker 3>on that front. But other than that, I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of like okay pitching matches, but not

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of kind of premier ones, So Paul Skenes

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<v Speaker 3>is kind of the obvious one. And then there's just

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of like, oh, that's interesting, you know, that's

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<v Speaker 3>that's okay, Like I don't I don't feel like unless

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<v Speaker 3>I'm missing.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't need to fake it or sell us soldness.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the most exciting from what the type of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff you and I usually highlight this segment. I think

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<v Speaker 2>we've named enough of them.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't need to to, you know, lose the trust

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<v Speaker 2>of our audience by just pretending we care about.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, some of the lower I'm not pretending. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>saying I'm trying to. I'm trying to look is.

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<v Speaker 6>Not the same as like we can excitement, what are

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<v Speaker 6>we really looking forward? I was also looking like are

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<v Speaker 6>there any good like team matchups this weekend? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 6>was kind of and I haven't really stood out to

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<v Speaker 6>me white sox Yankees doesn't really do it.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, shockingly. All right, let's go to our two

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<v Speaker 2>start picture competition. Last week, my picture Emerson Hancock got

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<v Speaker 2>sent down after his first start.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew I was kind of going out on a limb.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, it was like not a week I love that

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<v Speaker 2>was let me just take a shot here on Hancock.

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<v Speaker 2>For whatever reason crossed my mind last week, Uh did

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<v Speaker 2>not pan out because well, part of it was I

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<v Speaker 2>was excited about to start against the A's and didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even get it. Your pitcher this week is even worse

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<v Speaker 2>as you mentioned Renel Blaco, or is it worse? Is

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<v Speaker 2>getting sent down better or worse than your guy getting

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<v Speaker 2>suspended during the week you picked him as a two

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<v Speaker 2>star pitcher. I genuinely don't know the answer to that,

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<v Speaker 2>but as you are already highlighting the outline because of

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<v Speaker 2>that fact, A, you know you got an auto win

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<v Speaker 2>last week, I would say, and B I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>an auto win this week. So I believe we are

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<v Speaker 2>actually tied through six weeks including this week, that we're

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<v Speaker 2>currently in at three wins a piece.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's an exciting race so far. Who you got

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<v Speaker 1>for this week?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think the time breaker there was not just

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<v Speaker 3>that your guy got sent down and then my guy

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<v Speaker 3>got suspended, which it's kind of on one hand, it's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of fun because normally we have to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>wait an extra week to talk about who won. Now

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<v Speaker 3>we're two weeks ahead, we already know into the future,

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<v Speaker 3>who's won not only this week but next week or

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<v Speaker 3>not like last week but this week kind of a situation.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the tiebreaker there is that my guy wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>just suspended. He was suspended for cheating. He didn't like

1:18:09.680 --> 1:18:11.519
<v Speaker 3>get into you didn't like throw at someone and get

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<v Speaker 3>like thrown out of the game and get a five

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<v Speaker 3>game suspension. He got caught cheating, allegedly cheating and was suspended.

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<v Speaker 3>So I feel like that tiebreaker makes it worse than

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<v Speaker 3>getting sent down, although they are both pretty bad. My

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<v Speaker 3>pitcher for this week is Kyle Bradish.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you say, is it.

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<v Speaker 1>Bratish or British bradish?

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<v Speaker 4>Bradish?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why I doubted myself there, but I

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<v Speaker 3>made sure for one of the first times ever, I

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<v Speaker 3>got to the sheet before you. And similar to the

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<v Speaker 3>pitching matchups and the team matchups for this weekend, I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't love what we were seeing in terms of two

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<v Speaker 3>start pitchers next week, and so I was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>not only does he have two good matchups in the

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<v Speaker 3>one of the worst teams we've ever seen in the

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<v Speaker 3>White Sox and the struggling Mighty League Cardinals, but also

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<v Speaker 3>I got to grab an Oils pitcher before you did,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I was happy to take Kyle Bradish.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh. Yeah, you know what, that's okay. I'm not beating

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<v Speaker 2>myself up over it. He didn't do that well today

1:19:11.000 --> 1:19:13.360
<v Speaker 2>eighty five pitches and four innings. The O's did get

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<v Speaker 2>the window extend there.

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<v Speaker 4>He's warming up for me next week, that's why.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Suell for me, I'm going with Chris sale

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<v Speaker 2>Has By the way, do you know Chris Sales thirty five?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I know, he's been around a while, but I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't realize he he'd hit the mid thirties yet or

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<v Speaker 2>like that level of it. I would have guessed like

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<v Speaker 2>thirty two or thirty three. But he's He's pitched really

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<v Speaker 2>well in his last three starts. His last three starts,

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<v Speaker 2>he's gone a combined eighteen innings one earned run. What

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<v Speaker 2>is this twenty eight strikeouts? I didn't actually I had

1:19:46.200 --> 1:19:49.000
<v Speaker 2>to do math on the fly, just one walk. So

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<v Speaker 2>he's been really good since since the calendar flip to May,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was good even prior to that too.

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<v Speaker 1>He's obviously had a really stellar season so far, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take him.

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<v Speaker 2>His matchups a are against the Padres and at the Pirates.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll see who breaks the tie here seven weeks

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<v Speaker 2>into the season and takes a lead in our contest.

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<v Speaker 2>Any other thoughts here before we wrap up? Nope, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get out of there on that. Thank you everybody

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<v Speaker 2>for tuning in. Thank you again to Welsh for joining

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<v Speaker 2>me earlier. I hope everybody enjoyed that segment, and I

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<v Speaker 2>hope everybody enjoyed the show. For Mayor and Welsh, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan Warmley.

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