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Speaker 2: Later in the show, I have a conversation with our
Speaker 2: friend and colleague Chris Welsh. We talk about Paul Skeins,
Speaker 2: we talk about Christian Scott, we talk about Jackson Holliday,
Speaker 2: we talk about Jason Demingez. We'll talk about some other
Speaker 2: prospects to stash now that schemes is up. It's a
Speaker 2: pretty good conversation so definitely check around that in the
Speaker 2: second half of the show. Start off, as we always
Speaker 2: do with rounding the bases.
Speaker 1: Mayor.
Speaker 2: I was playing softball last night and then I saw
Speaker 2: a message from you that said, well, I guess we
Speaker 2: need to talk about Ronelle Blanco on tomorrow's show. And
Speaker 2: I said why in my head, and I went and
Speaker 2: looked it up. I was like, did he get hurt?
Speaker 2: You know, did he get shelled? Turns out he's been cheating.
Speaker 2: I mean I say that kind of tongue and cheek.
Speaker 2: It's like, not entirely clear. He has been suspended for
Speaker 2: ten days by Major League Baseball. They found substance on
Speaker 2: his arm and it was checked and he was out
Speaker 2: of the game, and, like I said, now suspended. What's
Speaker 2: really interesting in situations like this for me is less
Speaker 2: looking backwards at you know, trying to figure out how
Speaker 2: much of what he had done this season was related
Speaker 2: to the cheating, intentional or otherwise or whatever, you know,
Speaker 2: like looking at spin rates and things like that. I
Speaker 2: saw Welsh tweeting about this. Actually it's more about looking forward.
Speaker 2: What do we expect out of him when he returns.
Speaker 2: So that's kind of where I'm at. What was your
Speaker 2: initial takeaway when you saw this and what are you
Speaker 2: thinking about now a day later.
Speaker 3: Well, my initial takeaway was, oh, no, he's my two
Speaker 3: star pitcher against Ryan for this week, so I have
Speaker 3: to I guess I'm going to automatically lose. And that's
Speaker 3: one of the main reasons I initially messaged you. I
Speaker 3: was like, well, got to talk about this. What a
Speaker 3: disaster for me. I've also I'm also someone who has
Speaker 3: kind of not been high on renal bloca.
Speaker 4: But like when he kind.
Speaker 3: Of broke out and had just no hitter, we talked
Speaker 3: about him, and I think most of the industry just
Speaker 3: kind of agreed. You know, this is this is kind
Speaker 3: of a fluke thing. It's not gonna last. He's going
Speaker 3: to turn back into a pumpkin. And then he's where
Speaker 3: eight starts in and the number. You know, there are
Speaker 3: some obviously concerning underlying numbers, but you know, his actual
Speaker 3: numbers continue to be really good, and there are some
Speaker 3: some signs that, you know, like we talked about the
Speaker 3: change up and you know that stuff. But now I
Speaker 3: feel like I don't know anything. It's hard to know
Speaker 3: what to believe.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like you said, has he been cheating all along?
Speaker 3: You know, is this a one off thing? And you
Speaker 3: know everyone is you know, I've seen everyone kind of
Speaker 3: talking about the spin Rate's like nothing was noticeably different
Speaker 3: in this start. Does that mean he wasn't really cheating?
Speaker 3: Does it mean he's always been cheating? Like I feel
Speaker 3: like I don't know what to believe now, and it's
Speaker 3: like he already was kind of a cell high, and
Speaker 3: now it's like, can you even you know, the CBS
Speaker 3: guys were talking about this. Can you know he was
Speaker 3: a cell high? But now can you is he now
Speaker 3: a by low? Because maybe you just you know, someone's like, oh,
Speaker 3: you know, they got to get out from underneath the
Speaker 3: Renel Blanco. Maybe you can just get him for nothing,
Speaker 3: or because they're concerned about this. You know, it's only
Speaker 3: a short suspension, but it's like, you know, they're obviously
Speaker 3: you know, we already had concerns and now no one
Speaker 3: really can believe anything.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, I will buy low now emphasis
Speaker 2: on low. It needs to be low, but I'll buy
Speaker 2: low and say, listen to his era is like two
Speaker 2: what is it two oh nine?
Speaker 1: This season?
Speaker 2: I know that, like you said, there's some underlying stuff,
Speaker 2: but almost a strikeout. And again, in the modern landscape
Speaker 2: of pitching, like taking a chance that this was kind
Speaker 2: of like some fluke like mix of sweat or whatever.
Speaker 2: Like I'm not going to pretend to sit here and say,
Speaker 2: like I definitively know like what he was attending, what
Speaker 2: was actually happening, et cetera, et cetera, and it might
Speaker 2: you know, not not pan out. Maybe he has been
Speaker 2: cheating all along and now he's going to turn back
Speaker 2: into a pumpkin. Maybe he was always going to turn
Speaker 2: back into a pumpkin because he's thirty years old, having
Speaker 2: this late career breakout, and we just expect those guys
Speaker 2: to regress.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: But if I can truly buy low and get him
Speaker 2: for like essentially nothing, which I don't think is possible everywhere,
Speaker 2: but I think it's definitely possible in some places, I'm
Speaker 2: happy to do that and take that swing and say,
Speaker 2: you know, best case scenario, he comes back and he
Speaker 2: is the guy that he has been the first month
Speaker 2: and a half of the season, and it's kind of
Speaker 2: like a key cog in my fantasy rotation.
Speaker 1: Worst case I didn't give up much to get him.
Speaker 2: I think you know, if you asked me, you know, buy, seller, hold,
Speaker 2: the correct answer is probably hold. I would think I
Speaker 2: would not be selling low. You obviously can't sell high
Speaker 2: right now. I would not be selling low. I would
Speaker 2: be buying low or holding if I already have him.
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree with that. I think you have
Speaker 4: to hold and not sell low.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's if he comes back and stinks up
Speaker 3: the place, you're gonna sell low or have to drop
Speaker 3: him anyway. But there's not really much to gain by
Speaker 3: selling low now. I do want to mention I saw A. J.
Speaker 3: Pruzinski talking about this today and he had some pretty
Speaker 3: strong feelings which I kind of agreed with. And he
Speaker 3: just talked about the whole process of of you know,
Speaker 3: flagging these pictures and how an umpire gonna be like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's sticky stuff like throw and not only do you
Speaker 3: throw them out of the game, he's automatically suspended for
Speaker 3: ten games. And he was he was arguing, we have
Speaker 3: the science to figure this out, like we can tell
Speaker 3: if that was rosen or not, Like it's not hard,
Speaker 3: you know, like give us a swab and by tomorrow
Speaker 3: morning we'll know if it was you.
Speaker 4: Know, we'll know what the substance is.
Speaker 3: And he kind of made the case like you can
Speaker 3: just have an umpire with a grudge against the pitcher,
Speaker 3: and knowing what we know about these umpires and some
Speaker 3: of their you know, opinions and attitudes and just general personalities,
Speaker 3: that's not necessarily something that you know, is out of
Speaker 3: the realm of possibility that someone could just like have
Speaker 3: a grudge against someone and there's just no checks and balance.
Speaker 4: As you just said, Yep, that's sticky stuff. I don't
Speaker 4: think it's sweat.
Speaker 3: I think I think you're cheating and you're out of
Speaker 3: this game and ten games suspension. I thought that was
Speaker 3: an interesting point, and I think I agree with him.
Speaker 2: If you are waiting on public checks and balances for
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball umpires, you're gonna be.
Speaker 1: Waiting a long time.
Speaker 4: That's fair.
Speaker 1: We'll tell you that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's been one of the more interesting stories
Speaker 2: of the start of the season. Like, like, obviously the
Speaker 2: no hitter really like boosts the kind of profile around
Speaker 2: a guy. But like to your point, he has been
Speaker 2: really consistent since then too for a bad Astros team.
Speaker 2: He he is four and oh for a team that
Speaker 2: is not winning a lot of games, so it's pretty significant.
Speaker 2: And I'm really curious, really curious to see what he
Speaker 2: looks like when he's back on the mound. Like I said,
Speaker 2: I'm happy to I won't be starting him that first
Speaker 2: start back.
Speaker 1: I don't even care who he's facing.
Speaker 2: He will not be he will be on my bench,
Speaker 2: but I want him on my roster just just in case.
Speaker 2: And this is kind of a fluke or again some
Speaker 2: sort of incidental mixing of whatever, and that really really quickly,
Speaker 2: what do you think about the hitters who said when
Speaker 2: this offers started happening like that they kind of like
Speaker 2: some of the sticky stuff just to make sure the
Speaker 2: pitcher like had control over the ball and wasn't going
Speaker 2: to be like you know, slipping around and throwing kind
Speaker 2: of haphazardly.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean it's a real I don't want
Speaker 3: to say pet peeve, but it really annoys me that
Speaker 3: baseball changes the ball so much. And you've seen there
Speaker 3: are other leagues, like I think the KBO does it
Speaker 3: where they have like a pre tacked ball, like the
Speaker 3: ball is already sticky, and I think everyone is kind
Speaker 3: of with that you know, obviously hitters have to deal
Speaker 3: with some better breaking pitches, but they're also not just
Speaker 3: going to get you know, pitches in the side of
Speaker 3: their neck because the slider doesn't slide kind of a thing,
Speaker 3: and you don't have to worry about all this stuff.
Speaker 3: And you know, there's also some argument to be made
Speaker 3: that some of the sticky stuff is a result you know,
Speaker 3: or lack they're like how slick the balls are is
Speaker 3: resulting in some injuries. I forget if it was last
Speaker 3: year of the year before we saw a ton of
Speaker 3: pitchers start to go down with like blisters and stuff
Speaker 3: that they were having trouble with the new baseballs. And
Speaker 3: I think in the lower one of the lower minor
Speaker 3: league levels where they kind of like start to experiment
Speaker 3: with all these things, I think they're already using a
Speaker 3: pre tacked ball. So I hope, you know, just for
Speaker 3: the sake of the game, I hope they maybe bring
Speaker 3: that to Major League Baseball and we get, you know,
Speaker 3: less variance between baseballs and just kind of have a
Speaker 3: pre tact ball that everyone you know is agreement that
Speaker 3: you know, these work.
Speaker 2: Next topic here, U stat Cast really interestingly released swing
Speaker 2: tracking data.
Speaker 1: So this is stuff like the.
Speaker 2: That speed on the swing, the that length in terms
Speaker 2: of how short the swing is, you know, how compact
Speaker 2: it is versus how long it is. Stuff about the
Speaker 2: number of blasts you have, which is kind of like
Speaker 2: squaring up a ball but with a certain you know,
Speaker 2: you know, exsit velocity slash bat speed. I haven't memorized
Speaker 2: all the numbers yet, but it's that kind of thing
Speaker 2: which is really interesting. You know. Obviously, every year it
Speaker 2: seems like we're kind of learning more and more about
Speaker 2: the game, and specifically getting more and more numbers about
Speaker 2: the game, and you know, seeing like obviously, if you
Speaker 2: and I were to sit down before we ever saw
Speaker 2: a single one of these metrics and guess who do
Speaker 2: you think has the fastest like that swing in baseball,
Speaker 2: it would not have been long before we mentioned John
Speaker 2: Carlos Stanton, and he's number one by a lot. He
Speaker 2: is like a couple miles per hour ahead of the
Speaker 2: rest of you know, anybody else in baseball. So there's
Speaker 2: not really like one or two guys I want to
Speaker 2: highlight here, if you want to, please go ahead.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to kind of ask.
Speaker 2: Just your general takeaways. Were their names that stuck out
Speaker 2: to you the application of this. Do you see a
Speaker 2: use for fantasy managers? Do you see a use for
Speaker 2: baseball managers? Is this just kind of a novelty fun
Speaker 2: thing to look at. What was your reaction to a
Speaker 2: seeing this, that this data exists, and be any particular
Speaker 2: data points that sit out to you?
Speaker 4: Yeah? So I kind of had a lot of takeaways.
Speaker 3: But I don't want to just talk forever and put
Speaker 3: everyone to sleep, because it's probably what would happen if
Speaker 3: you listen to me talk about swing tracking data for
Speaker 3: ten minutes. But yeah, like you, I'm not going to
Speaker 3: go through through a ton of the names. It was
Speaker 3: really interesting to see, you know, obviously John carol Stan.
Speaker 4: Has the highest average bat speed.
Speaker 3: I also thought it was really funny if you looked
Speaker 3: at you know, they have things like average batspeed and
Speaker 3: then also like your fast swing rate, like how often
Speaker 3: your swing rate is above seventy five miles per hour
Speaker 3: And he's at ninety eight percent so pretty much all
Speaker 3: of his swings. And it also really made me laugh
Speaker 3: just looking at like you know, you mentioned like the
Speaker 3: squared up percentages in the blast, which is you know,
Speaker 3: an interesting metric. I also thought It was really interesting
Speaker 3: that they went with pitching Ninja, who invented this term swords,
Speaker 3: where which is just like these really kind of embarrassing swings,
Speaker 3: where like you just kind of get full on a
Speaker 3: pitch and you almost don't like finish your swing. It's
Speaker 3: just an embarrassing kind of mess up, and you know,
Speaker 3: you're just like, yeah, you got me on that one.
Speaker 3: Joe Krolstan has zero of those because he just always
Speaker 3: finishes his swings as hard as he can, whether he's
Speaker 3: fulled or not, whether he misses the ball by three feet,
Speaker 3: he's swinging as hard as he can and he's not stopping.
Speaker 3: So I thought it was funny that he just swings
Speaker 3: rate swings fast ninety eight percent of the time and
Speaker 3: has zero swords, despite you know, being someone who strikes
Speaker 3: out a lot and that's two hundred.
Speaker 4: He just always swings as hard as he can.
Speaker 1: He's such a crazy outlier.
Speaker 2: His average swing is eighty point six miles per hour,
Speaker 2: almost three miles per hour faster than anybody else.
Speaker 1: That is a massive gap.
Speaker 2: Three miles per hour might not sound like a lot,
Speaker 2: it is ginormous. Also, about twenty two percent of swings
Speaker 2: across the reached the seventy five mile per hour threshold
Speaker 2: is ninety eight percent of the time. Like you just mentioned,
Speaker 2: it's like almost quadruple what the average is across the
Speaker 2: It's more than quadruple in my mag it's more than
Speaker 2: quadruple with the.
Speaker 1: Average across the league. It's it's a wild outlier.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one of the more interesting names. You know, there
Speaker 3: there were some some obvious kind of names you would
Speaker 3: you would expect to see, like Luisa Ariah's had, you know,
Speaker 3: a very slow bat speed but a really kind of
Speaker 3: like quick compact swing.
Speaker 2: Well, well to that point quickly before you mentioned the
Speaker 2: next name. He leads, He led the league. I was
Speaker 2: reading in the ESPN article, So there's so many of
Speaker 2: these new stats. I'm trying to remember which ones I
Speaker 2: was looking at. But Arias I believe he leads. It
Speaker 2: was it is the slowest swing. But he also leads
Speaker 2: in squaring uprate I believe it is, which is really
Speaker 2: interesting to me because that is such a profile of
Speaker 2: a contact here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 2: His squared up rate forty three and a half percent,
Speaker 2: a best in base ball while also having the slow spats.
Speaker 2: So like he is doing he is basically every at
Speaker 2: bad of his is me growing up. When I two
Speaker 2: strikes on me, it's like the classic, like choke up,
Speaker 2: just get the barrel on the ball and tried square
Speaker 2: up the ball somewhere and don't swing too hard.
Speaker 1: That's him all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, And yeah there's a There was a
Speaker 3: good write up about it an ESPN, which I encourage
Speaker 3: people to read. The Athletic also did one which is
Speaker 3: pretty good. Yeah, I read the one by Jef Passon.
Speaker 3: I don't want to like steal all of his his
Speaker 3: names and whatever, but it was it was interesting that
Speaker 3: there were some some names you wouldn't really expect and
Speaker 3: some names you would expect, you know, like Juan Soto
Speaker 3: and choh Tani were up there, like you know, shocking,
Speaker 3: and they have really good swings and you know, kind
Speaker 3: of a really good approach at the plate. William Contraras
Speaker 3: was like surprisingly maybe the best hitter in baseball with
Speaker 3: like more blast than anyone else.
Speaker 4: That was, you know, kind of a niame that jumped out.
Speaker 3: What I'm really interested to see with this data because
Speaker 3: when it first came out, it was it was a
Speaker 3: lot to digest and I wasn't even sure like how
Speaker 3: you know, before I really like dove in and you know,
Speaker 3: read the breakdowns and just let look the numbers of myself.
Speaker 3: I wasn't sure like how actionable this would be for fantasy.
Speaker 4: And I do think there.
Speaker 3: Are gonna be times where we kind of get a
Speaker 3: little carried away with like, oh, look, he only has
Speaker 3: a seventy four mile an hour average bat speed kind
Speaker 3: of thing, because there's going to be outliers that just
Speaker 3: like don't really fit neatly into this data. It for me,
Speaker 3: it is going to be interesting as we start to
Speaker 3: get into year over year data for this when you
Speaker 3: see someone like it would be interesting to see because
Speaker 3: because like this is pretty new data, and it's new
Speaker 3: in the sense of like there are more cameras and
Speaker 3: stuff that they're that they're looking at. So we don't
Speaker 3: really have like a lot of year over year data
Speaker 3: right now unless I'm misunderstanding all of this, But it'll
Speaker 3: be interesting to see going forward year over your data
Speaker 3: if if numbers for a certain player drastically change, and
Speaker 3: you know that player is like getting better or is
Speaker 3: like struggling, Like it would be interesting to see like
Speaker 3: a you know, like a corporate Carol, you know, is
Speaker 3: his bat speed or the length of his swing drastically different?
Speaker 3: And I also the next thing is I want to
Speaker 3: see this kind of stuff which I think we're gonna
Speaker 3: see infugi yeers added to the minor leagues, which is
Speaker 3: gonna be kind of terrifying in the sense that we're
Speaker 3: just gonna treat all these prospects like robots with like
Speaker 3: everyone with like the highest metrics. Whenever we add stat
Speaker 3: cast to minor league ballparks, is just gonna kind of
Speaker 3: just be like whoever has the best the highest bat
Speaker 3: speed and sprint speed, and everything's just gonna automatically like
Speaker 3: be the ones we're talking about with when when we
Speaker 3: start to like fade away from actual production. But uh yeah,
Speaker 3: this stuff is gonna be interesting going forward, for sure.
Speaker 2: We you gave me a hard time last week about
Speaker 2: kind of posing the rhetorical rhetorical question of is shohe
Speaker 2: tany the best hitter in baseball? Some of the bat
Speaker 2: speed stuff shows it like it actually might be one
Speaker 2: so too, because his is like in if you look
Speaker 2: at like kind of the quadrant, he like stands really
Speaker 2: far ahead in the right and up quadrant, which is
Speaker 2: like the best one to be in in terms of
Speaker 2: you know, bat speed, and I think it was length
Speaker 2: the swing was the other was on the y axis,
Speaker 2: but like square it up ratest, like all of them,
Speaker 2: sotos is really high. The one last note that I
Speaker 2: will take from Jeff Passen's article because he put it
Speaker 2: on Twitter and I thought it was a fantastic nugget.
Speaker 2: The average bat speed for the best hitter in Major
Speaker 2: League Baseball this season called you know show Eatani seventy
Speaker 2: five point four miles per hour.
Speaker 1: The average bat speed for the worst.
Speaker 2: Hitter in Major League Baseball this season Javier Baiaz seventy
Speaker 2: five point four miles per hour.
Speaker 1: Exactly identical.
Speaker 2: So that is as good a nugget as any to
Speaker 2: tell you that bat speed is not everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's where it's really interesting when they compare
Speaker 3: like the bat speed and the fast swing rate and
Speaker 3: the length of the swing, which is another, you know,
Speaker 3: something that we're gonna have to pay attention to, because
Speaker 3: there's a difference between a real because you know, even
Speaker 3: when we look at John Carlos Stan he has the
Speaker 3: fastest or the highest however you want to ward at
Speaker 3: bat speed, he also has the longest swing length. It
Speaker 3: takes him the longest for his whole swing to kind
Speaker 3: of get through the zone. So like the bat's moving
Speaker 3: fast but or sorry second slowest behind I your bias
Speaker 3: shockingly enough, but you know, it's more about just like
Speaker 3: the you know, how big your swing is, Like it's
Speaker 3: moving quickly, but you're also like it's just an enormous swing.
Speaker 3: So it's kind of you know, I think that's why
Speaker 3: he's such a boomer bust kind of swinger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to our next topic here.
Speaker 2: I'm sure we might have more takeaways on some of
Speaker 2: this swing data later on in the season, but I
Speaker 2: think that's, you know enough for now. Next topic here,
Speaker 2: there was an article on MLB dot com some of
Speaker 2: the likeliest players to be dealt by the trade deadline.
Speaker 2: I have somebody who I know you there have to
Speaker 2: be two sides to every trade, and you need a
Speaker 2: willing partner. But I always hate when teams who are
Speaker 2: obvious buyers wait until like mid July, because I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know, what the Orioles need right now is a
Speaker 2: back end of the bullpen arm. Go trade for them
Speaker 2: now and don't give away eight more games between now
Speaker 2: and the end of July, because you haven't overworked and
Speaker 2: incompetent back end of the bullpen, like go make the
Speaker 2: move now. And so it really bothers me when teams
Speaker 2: wait again. I get it that the other teams need
Speaker 2: to be willing to sell, but I just wish that
Speaker 2: we would see moves sooner. We already saw with the
Speaker 2: rias you know, early on this year, but I want
Speaker 2: to see more and more earlier in in you know,
Speaker 2: in the summer and in the trade deadline. So going
Speaker 2: through this article, there's a bunch of names. I don't
Speaker 2: think we need to like highlight every one of them specifically,
Speaker 2: but you know it's names like from all the kind
Speaker 2: of usual suspect teams you would imagine, the Angels, the A's,
Speaker 2: the Cardinals, the Rockies, the White Sox, the Marlins.
Speaker 1: So you know, some of the names.
Speaker 2: Just to quickly read through that, the article highlighted Joe
Speaker 2: Addell Mason Miller obviously. You know he's a guy I'd
Speaker 2: love to see in Baltimore. You know who wouldn't love
Speaker 2: to see them on their team? You know, Aaron Otto,
Speaker 2: Charlie Blackman, you know Tanner, Scott Hasslizardo, Luis Robert Kopek,
Speaker 2: Alex Bregman is listening to the article, which I think
Speaker 2: that might be a bridge too far, But any of
Speaker 2: these namestep stand out to you, and you know what
Speaker 2: do you kind of think about where we stand, you know,
Speaker 2: a couple months out from the trade deadline.
Speaker 3: So when I see an article like this, the first
Speaker 3: thing I try to kind of piece together or just
Speaker 3: imagine the hypotheticals in my mind is who on the
Speaker 3: list from a fantasy perspective has the most to gain, Like,
Speaker 3: who could you potentially acquire in fantasy now before a trade?
Speaker 3: Who their value is going to go up, Like they're
Speaker 3: going to go to a better lineup, or they're going
Speaker 3: to go to a you know, just a better like
Speaker 3: if they're especially if they're a picture, if they're going
Speaker 3: to go to a better team, have more run support,
Speaker 3: have better defense behind them, potentially win more games kind
Speaker 3: of thing, And just you know who could probably just
Speaker 3: use a change of scenery.
Speaker 4: I think you mentioned Alex Bragman.
Speaker 3: He's probably you know, his numbers don't look good enough
Speaker 3: despite his big game the other day. Don't know if
Speaker 3: a change of scenery is going to matter that much
Speaker 3: for him, the Astros should be a lot better than
Speaker 3: they are. It's not like he's in a bad lineup.
Speaker 3: He's in a good lineup. But just I'm not really
Speaker 3: sure what's going on there, Joe Adallas.
Speaker 2: I'm not really expecting the Astros to sell like that.
Speaker 2: Just maybe I'm just it's just so ingrained in my
Speaker 2: head that they're always in the alcs. But it's just
Speaker 2: it's weird for me to imagine this iteration of the
Speaker 2: roster that they, like you said, they should be better
Speaker 2: than they are. I just I can't imagine that two
Speaker 2: months from now they'll be selling.
Speaker 1: But maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they would.
Speaker 3: I think they would need to continue, and like you said,
Speaker 3: they're not going to be one of those teams that
Speaker 3: sells early. They're going to ride this into the ground
Speaker 3: and only sell that they have to, you know, late July.
Speaker 3: Joe Adell is a name that kind of is interesting
Speaker 3: just because of his like he's kind of breaking out finally,
Speaker 3: but he's in He's not in a great lineup.
Speaker 4: Trout's gonna be out for a while.
Speaker 2: I promise I won't interrupt you on all these guys,
Speaker 2: but I do just have to say on Adell, Like,
Speaker 2: I would be really wary of trading for him. Uh, absolutely,
Speaker 2: because not even about just like the past, but like,
Speaker 2: let's say you even believe that it's that the breakout
Speaker 2: is one hundred percent legit, and you're like.
Speaker 3: Wait, I mean trading Wait, I'm gonna interrupt you now,
Speaker 3: and the tables have turned. Yeah, do you mean wary
Speaker 3: of trading him as a fantasy manager or as an
Speaker 3: MMV team?
Speaker 4: Both?
Speaker 2: And I'm wary of trading for him in both because
Speaker 2: even if you I'm worried of trading for him in
Speaker 2: fantasy if you expect him to be traded away from
Speaker 2: the Angels, and I'm wary of trading for him in
Speaker 2: real life. You know, if you're any team not the Angels,
Speaker 2: I think I might have said, oo, the Angels.
Speaker 1: Because even if you believe it.
Speaker 2: Is one hundred percent legitimate and this is a real
Speaker 2: breakout and he is now this hitter, I worry that
Speaker 2: it took him so long to get to that point
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles that whatever they did to work with him, like,
Speaker 2: I think it's probably meaningful given all the struggles he
Speaker 2: had before, And I would be really scared of him
Speaker 2: changing sceneries. You know, it's it's like like the opposite
Speaker 2: of Bregmann, Like I would be really worried about a
Speaker 2: change of scenery negatively impacting him, even if you think
Speaker 2: the breakout is real in Los Angeles?
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 2: Does that make sense? Am I like kind of maybe
Speaker 2: overthinking it? Or would you be happy to trade him
Speaker 2: even if he gets traded in fantasy versus reality?
Speaker 4: I think it's fair. I think there's a lot to
Speaker 4: worry about.
Speaker 3: You know, we already kind of talked about Joe Odell,
Speaker 3: and you know, everything looks kind of good, but it's
Speaker 3: looked so bad for so long that it's hard to
Speaker 3: believe this is just a whole new Joe Odell.
Speaker 4: I think you would have to be.
Speaker 3: Confident in wherever he's like being traded to, and kind
Speaker 3: of you know, it's impossible to like know all this
Speaker 3: stuff off the back, you know, just in the back
Speaker 3: of your mind of just you know, which which kind
Speaker 3: of teams have like a really good track record of
Speaker 3: developing these young you know, these young hitters. The Angels
Speaker 3: are probably not one of those teams, So maybe he
Speaker 3: could go somewhere where they do have a better track
Speaker 3: record of developing young hitters like the Orioles of a
Speaker 3: team that has done that it recently, someone who isn't
Speaker 3: the Rockies, who are just like the poster team of
Speaker 3: how to not develop prospects, but something like something like
Speaker 3: that where you would you would have to be like, Okay,
Speaker 3: this is good. He's going to go to a better ballpark,
Speaker 3: a better lineup, and to a team with a track
Speaker 3: record of developing, you know, young hitters. So I think
Speaker 3: that would be kind of but even that, like we're
Speaker 3: talking redraft, like how much of a difference is going
Speaker 3: to make this season as opposed to like a keeper
Speaker 3: of dynasty league where you can kind of see, you know,
Speaker 3: changes going forward.
Speaker 2: I would not be going after somebody like Tanner Scott
Speaker 2: in fantasy because I think if he gets traded it's
Speaker 2: likely as like a seventh or eighth inning guy in
Speaker 2: an already good bullpen. I don't think it's likely that
Speaker 2: he's a closer somewhere else, so I think he would
Speaker 2: lose value, you know, maybe kind of the same thought
Speaker 2: for Copek.
Speaker 1: I mean some of these other like.
Speaker 2: Hayeses Lozardo, you know, would would certainly have a better
Speaker 2: chance at wins and then another uh, you know team,
Speaker 2: But it's not like he's you know, it's not like
Speaker 2: he's somebody that I mean, there's talent that I don't
Speaker 2: I don't want to like like downplay the talent there,
Speaker 2: but like it hasn't Quip been there this season, right,
Speaker 2: So I'm not sure how much value he's bringing, even
Speaker 2: if there's a better chance for wins.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd have to hope for like a bounce back
Speaker 3: to kind of the potential we've seen this. You know,
Speaker 3: he's like a high ceiling, low flower kind of guy,
Speaker 3: so it's hard to know what you're going to get there,
Speaker 3: Michael Michael Kopak, is anything that would be interesting, but
Speaker 3: he would have to be like you said, like the
Speaker 3: Tanner Scott situation. I need him to go to a
Speaker 3: place where he's closing. And it's like he's probably more
Speaker 3: likely to be like that multi inning you know, bring
Speaker 3: him in the six and seven then you know, get
Speaker 3: six guys out kind of a thing. Even though the
Speaker 3: White Sox are using him as a closer, and I
Speaker 3: think that's his future is being a closer. I think
Speaker 3: the starter experiment is over. Let's let's just make him
Speaker 3: a closer. He's got the stuff to be a good closer.
Speaker 3: Let's just lean into that and just let's go have
Speaker 3: a career. Michael Kopek, Let's not worry about the starter stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, his name, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe he's getting older and would do some you know,
Speaker 3: do for some negative stuff. But he's like being He's
Speaker 3: like fine right now in a lineup that is not
Speaker 3: fine around him.
Speaker 2: The most intriguing name by a mile in this article
Speaker 2: is Mason Miller. Oh yeah, do you think he gets moved?
Speaker 2: I have no idea what the what the a's are,
Speaker 2: What wouldn't even take to get him, because like the
Speaker 2: a's are bad and you and you generally want to
Speaker 2: cap I know they like had a hot streak greasely,
Speaker 2: but like you generally, if you're a bad team want
Speaker 2: to capitalize on a strong reliever season. That's like a
Speaker 2: really straightforward way to improve your organization is to if
Speaker 2: you're a bad team, trade a good reliever for whatever haul.
Speaker 1: You can get. Mason Miller is ridiculous.
Speaker 2: He is like that one of the nastiest closers stretches
Speaker 2: I've ever seen in my life. And I watched twenty
Speaker 2: sixteen Zach Brittain. He is ridiculous under control for a while,
Speaker 2: there's bin injury stuff in the past. Obviously, the way
Speaker 2: he throws, it's like, you know, you don't really expect
Speaker 2: to like to last forever. But again, like just using
Speaker 2: the oils as an example, a guy like Heston Kerstad
Speaker 2: is blocked. He's a top twenty five prospect in baseball.
Speaker 2: He's ready for the big leagues. Like, I don't even
Speaker 2: know if that would be considered a reasonable for the
Speaker 2: A's or not, because it's just kind of a unique
Speaker 2: situation combining all these factors that aren't typically combined.
Speaker 3: And what you said there is kind of the kind
Speaker 3: of the issue is because the the rumors all along,
Speaker 3: because I think this came up months ago with like, oh,
Speaker 3: maybe they could look to move Mason Miller because they're
Speaker 3: ridiculous and the apparently the asking price has been astronomical,
Speaker 3: so it's like they're just kind of like floating him
Speaker 3: out there. Okay, if you want to make us an
Speaker 3: off where we can't refuse, like we're the A's, we'll
Speaker 3: do anything. We'll get nuts. And I think the other
Speaker 3: thing that you mentioned there that could be potentially interesting
Speaker 3: is I think if you're well, I guess it would
Speaker 3: depend like the team like the Orioles would make not
Speaker 3: the like I want to, you know, break my own
Speaker 3: rule and talk about the Ools on the show. But
Speaker 3: a team like the Orioles could make a lot of sense,
Speaker 3: and in the sense that they're set up for a
Speaker 3: long competing window.
Speaker 4: Here they have some pretty good pitching depth.
Speaker 3: They could use more starting pitching depth, but like they have,
Speaker 3: you know, like you said, in a fundance of young hitters.
Speaker 3: And I think for a lot of teams you would
Speaker 3: almost have to like wonder if you're acquiring Mason Miller,
Speaker 3: like do you view him as a high end starter
Speaker 3: going forward or just as a reliever. And the Oriels
Speaker 3: are a team that could be like, we're happy with
Speaker 3: him as like a lockdown reliever. We don't need to
Speaker 3: worry about him making a starter, whereas I think other
Speaker 3: teams they might want to kind of look at him
Speaker 3: as like a twenty twenty four closer, but then also
Speaker 3: a high end starting pitching prospect that we can stretch
Speaker 3: out and turn into an ace, and that I think
Speaker 3: in order to match what the A's want, it might
Speaker 3: be what you have to view him as.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an interesting wrinkle. I mean again, like a
Speaker 1: team like the Orioles.
Speaker 2: You know, next year theoretically Felix Bautista back, so maybe
Speaker 2: then you maybe even for them, it's like a one
Speaker 2: year closer. But I mean, like a reliever, this dominant
Speaker 2: is like actually not that easy to find. Like, good
Speaker 2: relievers are out there and sometimes they're hard to predict,
Speaker 2: but they're not hard to find. Relievers at this level
Speaker 2: are hard to find. So I'd be perfectly content whether
Speaker 2: it's the Orioles or anybody, to just see him, just
Speaker 2: let them say, like, listen, you on a good team
Speaker 2: could get five hundred saves and also strike out like
Speaker 2: two batteries an inning for your whole career, Like like
Speaker 2: just say, look how dominant you are. Why mess with
Speaker 2: a good thing? I wouldn't be opposed to that, you know,
Speaker 2: wherever he goes. So he's the really interesting one. Let's
Speaker 2: move on to our bylow cell high for the week.
Speaker 2: I'll go first in the by Low. My favorite by
Speaker 2: Low actually in the article and everybody should go check
Speaker 2: it out. Fantasypros dot Com is Matt Olson. However, we
Speaker 2: just talked about him last week when discussing grading your trade.
Speaker 2: So rather than talk about him again, I will say
Speaker 2: my second favorite from the article, which is Boba Schett,
Speaker 2: And it's less about, you know, with Matt Olsen, there's
Speaker 2: you know, reasons for optimism from some of the bad
Speaker 2: etball data. There's not really that with Boba Schett. It's
Speaker 2: more just like it's not like he's old. There's a
Speaker 2: real track record here. He's actually even hard to heat
Speaker 2: up a bit in the last you know, several days.
Speaker 2: So I just think he's somebody that again we always
Speaker 2: say I'm not buying I'm buying low and you're gonna
Speaker 2: give me a bilo opportunity and a guy who has
Speaker 2: legitimately struggled this year, but who has the kind of
Speaker 2: ceiling that we know Bobachett has.
Speaker 1: And again it's it's early.
Speaker 2: Enough that you can kind of look past a slow start,
Speaker 2: even if it's not bad luck, it's actually a bad start,
Speaker 2: and say this guy could easily bounce back. So, like
Speaker 2: I said, Matt Olson is my favorite from this week's article,
Speaker 2: but Bobachhet is my second favorite.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like Bobachhet. The thing I like about him
Speaker 3: and one of the reasons I like him as a
Speaker 3: by low Is. The concerning thing last year was you know,
Speaker 3: he was a little banged up and he wasn't running,
Speaker 3: and it was like, oh no, here we go. This
Speaker 3: is like the Mike drought syndrome. We have a superstar
Speaker 3: who broke into the league as like a thirty thirty
Speaker 3: potential kind of guy, and you know, in his breakout
Speaker 3: year he went twenty nine to twenty five and everyone
Speaker 3: was salvating over the potential there. It was like a
Speaker 3: high average power speed, like this guy's little package, and
Speaker 3: he kind of just gradually got worse, like not terribly worse,
Speaker 3: but like the numbers just kind of went down.
Speaker 4: He's been banged up a little.
Speaker 3: You know, he's banged up a little bit last year,
Speaker 3: Like I said, after two really you know, solid years.
Speaker 3: Batting average has been there up until this year. But
Speaker 3: he wasn't running in twenty twenty one, twenty five stolen basis,
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, thirteen last year five. So the good
Speaker 3: The one thing I like to see this year is
Speaker 3: that he already has four and not that four is
Speaker 3: a lot, but he only stole five all last year
Speaker 3: and he already has four, and so that is an
Speaker 3: encouraging sign that you know he could be getting.
Speaker 4: You know, he's not.
Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like he's gonna ever go back to
Speaker 3: that thirty thirty potential. But he could be like a
Speaker 3: twenty five to fifteen guy with a really good average,
Speaker 3: and you know, there's just a lot to like there.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm a big Bobachette fan, so I'd definitely be
Speaker 3: buying well.
Speaker 1: Two, who's your pick here?
Speaker 3: So my pick here is actually someone I stole from Welsh.
Speaker 3: The person I wrote up in the article is Aaron Savale,
Speaker 3: and I wrote how I'd be going down with the
Speaker 3: Aaron sa Valet ship and just babbling about needing a
Speaker 3: larger sample size as we loaded the women and children
Speaker 3: under the rescue boats. But we've already talked about Arnsavalley
Speaker 3: on the show a little bit, so we don't need to.
Speaker 4: Go back down that road.
Speaker 3: So I stole jazz chism from Welsh, and it was
Speaker 3: because I read his write up and I thought there
Speaker 3: was an interesting reason. It wasn't necessarily about what we
Speaker 3: always talk about, which is, you know, like his underlying
Speaker 3: numbers are much better. This is a clear buy low
Speaker 3: kind of a thing, which you know, there was a
Speaker 3: little bit of that, but he he was also speculating
Speaker 3: that he could be traded, which you know, is a
Speaker 3: perfect kind of segue to what we just talked about.
Speaker 3: You know what, who who could see their value drastically
Speaker 3: increase if they land in a new environment, and he's
Speaker 3: a perfect candidate for that.
Speaker 4: I don't know if he will be moved, but you
Speaker 4: similar to.
Speaker 3: What we were talking about with the A's, you can't
Speaker 3: rule out anything the Marlins, do, you know, Like you
Speaker 3: said before, you hate waiting to see teams wait till July.
Speaker 4: They made it trade two weeks ago. They're already ready
Speaker 4: to roll.
Speaker 3: And so I was kind of looking at his contract too,
Speaker 3: because I was like, well, I feel like he's under
Speaker 3: control for.
Speaker 4: A little while.
Speaker 3: Maybe they won't trade him. He is kind of already
Speaker 3: in his arbitration or not kind of. He is already
Speaker 3: in his arbitration seasons, which, as we know, your your
Speaker 3: contract gradually goes up, you know, into the millions.
Speaker 4: Every year you're in that.
Speaker 3: And the Marlins are notoriously really cheap, and they don't
Speaker 3: view arbitration years the way that the big market teams view,
Speaker 3: as you know, affordable years. They view them as these
Speaker 3: are getting more expensive, like maybe we should start to
Speaker 3: sell why while we can. It's it's clear from their
Speaker 3: moves they don't think they're anywhere close to a contention window.
Speaker 3: So maybe he could be moved in some kind of
Speaker 3: blockbuster deal. Or he goes to a really good lineup,
Speaker 3: bats pretty highly in that lineup, and you know, now
Speaker 3: we're talking about someone who, just as I already mentioned,
Speaker 3: he's in a much better situation, probably in a better ballpark,
Speaker 3: with you know, better run support or you know, better
Speaker 3: like lineup support around him. I think that's a really
Speaker 3: intriguing name. So I commend Welsh for that idea, and
Speaker 3: I gladly steal it from him for the show.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the cell highs Now.
Speaker 2: I didn't like the cell high options in this week's article,
Speaker 2: so I picked my Rather than picking my favorite cell high,
Speaker 2: I picked my least favorite cell high from the article.
Speaker 1: And that's Aaron Judge.
Speaker 2: We talk a lot about the color of your stat
Speaker 2: cast page. It's remarkably red. I mean there's a couple
Speaker 2: you know, obviously, like strikeout rate and with rate are
Speaker 2: kind of usually high with him, but it is it
Speaker 2: is pretty dark red across the world. He actually while
Speaker 2: we were recording this hit a home run four hundred
Speaker 2: and sixty seven feet tonight. So we were recording this Wednesday,
Speaker 2: by the way, everyone, not.
Speaker 1: Thursday like usual. I mean, he has ten home runs.
Speaker 2: You know. The batting average is down at two thirty six,
Speaker 2: but he's only thirty two. It's not like he's some
Speaker 2: old man you can't hack it anymore. His bat speed
Speaker 2: is ninety seven percentile, so clearly he can still swing hard.
Speaker 1: I'm maybe not ying high on Judge.
Speaker 2: I think that's reasonable, but I'm really not actively looking
Speaker 2: to sell on Aaron Judge really really at all.
Speaker 1: What do you think about Judge?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we kind of talked about him recently and
Speaker 3: I kind of said that I am not always kind
Speaker 3: of selling high, but I rarely have shares of Aaron
Speaker 3: Judge because he goes so high in drafts or so
Speaker 3: for so much money and auctions, and I'm always kind
Speaker 3: of the older he gets, the more concerned I am
Speaker 3: about injury. So I feel like baking an injury concerns
Speaker 3: would have to be your reason for selling high. And
Speaker 3: because but if like if you drafted him, you already
Speaker 3: knew that, So why are you bothering to.
Speaker 2: Sell high at this point, I don't have him in
Speaker 2: a lot of places, to be clear, because I'm similar
Speaker 2: to you in that he just typically goes higher than
Speaker 2: I'm comfortable taking on that risk on actual draft day,
Speaker 2: So I don't really have the opportunity to sell him
Speaker 2: even if I wanted to. But if I did, again,
Speaker 2: he's somebody that like, you know what you're getting when
Speaker 2: you draft him, and I'm not uncomfortable enough with what
Speaker 2: we've gotten that I'm looking to get out just because
Speaker 2: he's having a hot streak.
Speaker 1: Here to start, May, who's your cell high?
Speaker 3: My cell high is Reese Elsen, and I'm I'm saddened
Speaker 3: to hear that you didn't like my choice of a
Speaker 3: cell high. I thought we were supporting each other on
Speaker 3: this show, so why don't I return it to you?
Speaker 3: Why do you not like Reese Elson as a cell high?
Speaker 2: So is to pull the cur I wasn't gonna like
Speaker 2: point this out once I realized this has happened. I'm
Speaker 2: actually pulling from our by low sell high article options,
Speaker 2: not from our featured pros multiple people options. So I
Speaker 2: was trying to highlight our writer who does bilo sell
Speaker 2: high every week, Brett USTERI and pick from his where
Speaker 2: I did not like his sell high options, which were
Speaker 2: Aaron Judge, Mitch Keller, and Jameson tie On.
Speaker 1: So I don't like any of those.
Speaker 2: I didn't actually compare to your article or choice. So
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you made a bad choice. Go ahead
Speaker 2: and sell me this pen On resource.
Speaker 3: He's just I mean, his numbers right now are incredible.
Speaker 3: He has a two point zero nine ERA.
Speaker 1: And an incredible zero to four one lost record.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's that's kind of the reason for the
Speaker 3: cell high because you can kind of, you know, sell
Speaker 3: someone on the on the fact that, look, you know,
Speaker 3: he's got these incredible numbers, the wins will come. But
Speaker 3: he is on the Tigers, and he also has you know,
Speaker 3: he has zero wins. He also has zero home runs allowed,
Speaker 3: which is both impressive but also incredibly lucky, very scary.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that just that kind of luck just isn't going
Speaker 4: to continue the rest of the season.
Speaker 3: Although as I mentioned in the article, he does have
Speaker 3: a really you know, there are some reasons like he's
Speaker 3: kind of doing that. He's he's allowing some decent hard contact,
Speaker 3: but he's he's got a ridiculous fifty five percent ground
Speaker 3: ball rate, So he is keeping the ball on the ground.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, he's not missing a lot
Speaker 4: of bats.
Speaker 3: And so while he's not walking in ton a guy,
Speaker 3: he's letting up some hard contact no home runs, and
Speaker 3: kind of keeping them all on the ground. It's it's
Speaker 3: just not sustainable, you know, when when you're not missing
Speaker 3: a ton of bats and you're giving up a decent
Speaker 3: amount of hard contact, it doesn't really matter. Like he's
Speaker 3: gonna have some blow up starts here. His expected era
Speaker 3: numbers are like, aren't terrible. Like his actual RA is
Speaker 3: two point zero nine. All of his other numbers are
Speaker 3: between two point five four and three point seven seven,
Speaker 3: which even if you fully regrets.
Speaker 4: To those like, that's still not bad. And so it's
Speaker 4: not like a you know, it's not like a regular
Speaker 4: sell or a cell low.
Speaker 3: It's a cell high. I want to sell what we
Speaker 3: what we've seen in the you know, in production, for
Speaker 3: something better, you know something. And this is sometimes we
Speaker 3: talk about these trades and we kind of get caught
Speaker 3: up in like what picture would you want? I like
Speaker 3: to do the opposite trades. I like to do a
Speaker 3: picture for a hitter, and I would rather. You know,
Speaker 3: I think I mentioned I wrote it today, so I'm
Speaker 3: trying to remember what I wrote. I think I mentioned
Speaker 3: I would rather like I would, I would like to
Speaker 3: swap him for almost like a buy high hitter like
Speaker 3: a Joe Adele, or a by low hitter like a
Speaker 3: George Springer.
Speaker 1: I think that's fair.
Speaker 2: You made a great case, and I'm not gonna say
Speaker 2: you're wrong about that. Like I said, just drawing from
Speaker 2: a different article. That's that's how organized we are here.
Speaker 2: Let's kick it to my conversation with Welsh. Like I said,
Speaker 2: we dive into a whole bunch of prospects and other
Speaker 2: young players, and then you and I will come back
Speaker 2: on the other side.
Speaker 1: Back in with Chris Welsh, our guest of the week.
Speaker 1: We are here for Prospect Corner.
Speaker 2: Only one of us who's going to talk to Welsh today,
Speaker 2: And of course I drew the short straw, so mayor
Speaker 2: lucked out chat with the Well. No, it is a
Speaker 2: delight to talk to our friend and coworker, Chris Welsh.
Speaker 2: We're talking to prospects now Welsh. Last week we were
Speaker 2: in the middle of recording with Kelly Kirby, who was
Speaker 2: our guest last week when news dropped that Paul Skens
Speaker 2: was officially finally getting the call, we had a sense
Speaker 2: that this was probably, you know, around the horizon. Sometime
Speaker 2: soon it finally did happen. So here we are a
Speaker 2: week later. We have a start to actually look at
Speaker 2: and react to, and I want to ask you about
Speaker 2: that and also kind of looking ahead for the rest
Speaker 2: of the season, just get the chance for the folks
Speaker 2: to hear your reaction and kind of expectations.
Speaker 1: But just off the bat, what did you think of
Speaker 1: the debut?
Speaker 2: You know, four innings, seven strikeouts, give a three earned runs,
Speaker 2: a home run, a couple of walks. You know, you're
Speaker 2: not gonna put too much dock in you just one start, right,
Speaker 2: and it was the kid's major league debut.
Speaker 1: But the stuff is unreal. Everybody already knows it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess let me actually backtrack again and
Speaker 2: ask you initially, was this the most excited you were
Speaker 2: for a pitching prospect since Strasburg? That was kind of
Speaker 2: the comparison point a lot of people were giving. Is
Speaker 2: that kind of how you felt too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, for a pitching prospect? Sure, I mean it's sometimes
Speaker 5: shooing far between. I will tell you it probably would
Speaker 5: have been like McKenzie go I loved McKenzie, a huge
Speaker 5: mackenzie Gore guy. But Gore then kind of fell apart
Speaker 5: before he made that major league debut. And that's a
Speaker 5: tough thing. That's that's actually kind of the uniqueness about
Speaker 5: Paul Skeins is everyone is always picked on top pitching prospects.
Speaker 5: Because if you go back and you li ok at
Speaker 5: just any list, you know, go to pipeline, you go
Speaker 5: to mine, but you go to like pipeline or something
Speaker 5: for MLB, and you go back and look top twenty
Speaker 5: overall prospects for the last like five or six, maybe
Speaker 5: eight years, and you go and look at like who
Speaker 5: are the top pitching prospects, Force Whitley, Alex Reyes, McKinsey, Gore.
Speaker 5: There's failure, but the failure happens before they even hit
Speaker 5: the majors. The failure happens in the midst of the process.
Speaker 5: Paul Skeins wasn't a round for there to be time
Speaker 5: for failure. But it's such a quick successful run that
Speaker 5: he made to the major So yeah, from an excitement standpoint,
Speaker 5: this is the top dog.
Speaker 2: Would you say, like maybe even more exciting than Strasburg.
Speaker 2: I saw that debate going on. For me, Strasburg kind
Speaker 2: of stands alone. I was also in DC when that
Speaker 2: debut happened.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a little different for you.
Speaker 1: I don't really remember.
Speaker 5: It's not in my brain like how I felt.
Speaker 4: Obviously.
Speaker 5: I think his performance was like excitement versus met expectations,
Speaker 5: like if I'm doing a selfish one, Max sureser, Max sure,
Speaker 5: I'm a diamondback guy. When Max Scherzer made his debut
Speaker 5: and he struck out like eight in four innings, like,
Speaker 5: it was really exciting, So it was kind of near there.
Speaker 5: But you know, you also brought up expectations. This is
Speaker 5: I mean, you know you doing the social here like
Speaker 5: I did the social video for you, not not to
Speaker 5: pull a piece of pa here, but I was pretty
Speaker 5: damn close to right if you look at it, like
Speaker 5: and then it'll pat myself on the back. But like
Speaker 5: I said, I thought he was going to go four.
Speaker 1: I thought he was in.
Speaker 5: I said eight strikeouts, I said, two earned runs and
Speaker 5: two walks. We're pretty close. Seven strikeouts, three earned runs,
Speaker 5: two walks. And the reason I thought and the reason
Speaker 5: why like this didn't surpass or underwhelm my expectations is
Speaker 5: obviously because like this is what I thought he was
Speaker 5: going to do. I thought he was gonna have a
Speaker 5: little bit, especially in this specific matchup, which I had
Speaker 5: talked about in some of the social videos, was the
Speaker 5: Cubs are a team that can drive pitch counts a
Speaker 5: little bit more like they were little bit in the
Speaker 5: higher range. I think close to ten percent overall walk
Speaker 5: rate they put up. And Skeens is a guy that
Speaker 5: obviously is going to pump a fastball, but like he
Speaker 5: also drives counts. I think he went over five once
Speaker 5: in the minor leagues. He had gotten to seventy five
Speaker 5: pitches at the tippy top. Like it's not Blake Snell.
Speaker 5: But I don't know if Skeens is going to be
Speaker 5: a guy that's going to have a whole lot of
Speaker 5: like low pitch count innings because he you got guys
Speaker 5: that can't can't even get contact on one hundred and
Speaker 5: two mile an hour fastball. He topped at one to
Speaker 5: one point nine in that start. So inherently you're probably
Speaker 5: gonna have more often than not, you know, fifteen to
Speaker 5: eighteen pitch innings. So that is gonna get you to
Speaker 5: struggle a little bit from the uh, you know, getting
Speaker 5: to like five and six innings. So I'm saying all
Speaker 5: of this without jumping too far ahead and whatever you're
Speaker 5: gonna want to talk about. This was expectationally where I
Speaker 5: thought Paul Skeins was going to be. I loved the fastball.
Speaker 5: The only thing I thought was weird was I think
Speaker 5: it was Yasmini Grindal who was altering the pitch mix,
Speaker 5: because early on, if you watch the start schemes, was
Speaker 5: electric with the fastball. It was early fastballs in the
Speaker 5: first inning, struck out two second and then all of
Speaker 5: a sudden it started turning to like sliders and you
Speaker 5: were seeing that splinker or whatever they call the splitter
Speaker 5: that he was on the splitter, change up type of thing.
Speaker 5: And it felt like in two strike counts they were
Speaker 5: going to those instead of just barreling down one hundred
Speaker 5: and two. And I thought that was a catcher decision
Speaker 5: which maybe drove counts where you want to see more fastballs.
Speaker 5: But I think like, regardless of the result, you should
Speaker 5: be happy. This is him meeting the expectation of Paul
Speaker 5: Skins is a big win. It just doesn't add up
Speaker 5: to the Bonker's pre expectations people had those trades on
Speaker 5: leading off that we were seeing Someone's like, I can
Speaker 5: get Matt Olsen for Paul Skins. Yeah, Someone's like, would
Speaker 5: you trade Paul Skins for Corbyn Burns?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think the performance took away some of the oh
Speaker 5: my god, Paul Skeins is a little bit human, So
Speaker 5: now you can't quite make those trades. So now it's like,
Speaker 5: who would you rather have rest of the season, like
Speaker 5: Paul Skins or Chris Sale. I think that makes a
Speaker 5: little bit more sense in people's minds.
Speaker 1: What range are you ranking him rest of season?
Speaker 5: So in the initial rank on my rest of season,
Speaker 5: I had put him before the start at thirty three.
Speaker 5: That's where I had set him. I'm still working on
Speaker 5: the finalizing the rest of season. We're trying to do
Speaker 5: it weekly, but we've had a lot of stuff going on,
Speaker 5: so I'm kind of resetting it. I think he's gonna
Speaker 5: sit between twenty eight and thirty. And some of that's
Speaker 5: by proxy, because it's like guys are falling off the list,
Speaker 5: like Chris Bassett's kind of falling apart, Like I'm finally
Speaker 5: kind of getting done with Kevin Gossman. I'm kind of
Speaker 5: getting done with Chris Bassett. So I think it's fair
Speaker 5: to value. It's fair to say, like Paul Skans could
Speaker 5: be a top twenty five s p rest of season.
Speaker 5: I think the disconnect is people are like, you hear
Speaker 5: top twenty five, and then you're like, oh, top twenty five,
Speaker 5: could that mean he's top fifteen overall? I think he's
Speaker 5: gonna sit in that twenty five range because it's like
Speaker 5: it's gonna be tough for him to get wins and
Speaker 5: go five every single inning, But like he's an exceptional talent,
Speaker 5: so you should if you're trading him, I think you
Speaker 5: should view him as a top twenty five. So that's
Speaker 5: the value return at least I would want.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna ask how much you know, weighing
Speaker 2: into that is sort of what you mentioned about the
Speaker 2: pitch count going up. The Pirates aren't very good, so
Speaker 2: like they're not gonna be motivated to really push him
Speaker 2: beyond whatever their kind of innings limit that they've set
Speaker 2: for him is. So you know, that is somebody to
Speaker 2: keep in mind for really any top pitching prospect. But
Speaker 2: you know in this case as well, is that innings
Speaker 2: like you may get them but they are a question
Speaker 2: mark at the very least.
Speaker 5: And that's the positive could be though, is if the
Speaker 5: Pirates keep winning. That's the thing, like the formidable rotation,
Speaker 5: Jerry Jones, Paul Skains, Mitch Keller, that's your top three.
Speaker 5: There are a couple games out of the wild card.
Speaker 5: I think right now we're divisionally like they're not over
Speaker 5: five hundred. But it's like, oh, if this team just
Speaker 5: said we're just not going to keep doing pirate things
Speaker 5: and we're going to try to win win, maybe they
Speaker 5: start pulling some more pieces and that's where you get
Speaker 5: into maybe they'll cut the court a little bit on
Speaker 5: being hyper sensitive about innings pitched or you know that
Speaker 5: Jared Jones situation where he was on four days rest,
Speaker 5: so they're like he's only going five and he pitched
Speaker 5: fifty nine total pitches. That if this team is being competitive,
Speaker 5: it's the best possible scenario for a guy like Paul Skins.
Speaker 5: When they stop being competitive, then it's a cheap kind
Speaker 5: of comp and it's the sore spot for you and
Speaker 5: our old conversations about Uri Perez. But like Uri Perez
Speaker 5: last year where you know, like they sent Eury Perez
Speaker 5: down for a little bit, and then they were maintaining
Speaker 5: innings and stuff like that, like if the Pirates aren't winning,
Speaker 5: that's the worry that can happen for Paul Skins.
Speaker 2: You know, for the rest of the year, we're gonna
Speaker 2: talk about more than this Paul Skians. But I just
Speaker 2: want to mention before get off the topic, to share
Speaker 2: a sad story. I had tickets to Strasburg's debut and
Speaker 2: I didn't end up going because it was a buddy
Speaker 2: of mine in school and he was like, I have
Speaker 2: these tickets, like I got, I got too, and you're
Speaker 2: a big baseball fan. We weren't even that close to friends.
Speaker 2: He some day that I knew, but he's like, I
Speaker 2: know you're a big baseball fan.
Speaker 1: Do you want to come? I was like, holy cow,
Speaker 1: yes I do. He texted me that afternoon.
Speaker 2: After we got out of school and said, hey, my
Speaker 2: parents said I can't go because it's a school night.
Speaker 1: And they made me sell the tickets.
Speaker 4: And I was like, why did you give them to me?
Speaker 1: What are you doing?
Speaker 5: Let me buy them.
Speaker 1: I would have happily bought them.
Speaker 2: So he sold them and I didn't get to go,
Speaker 2: and then he struck out fourteen Pirates and looked amazing.
Speaker 2: I will never forget the fact that I wasn't at
Speaker 2: the debut of really the most tight pitching prospect that
Speaker 2: I can fad.
Speaker 1: That is a sad story. So that's the other.
Speaker 2: The other fun story quickly, high school teammate of mine
Speaker 2: who also went by a worm. The name is Keith Worm,
Speaker 2: and he went to uv A.
Speaker 5: I played with him at actually worm like it's just
Speaker 5: not like yours abbreviated worm. Was it worm worm?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: No, it was.
Speaker 2: It was also like a nickname abbreviat. But he he
Speaker 2: played at UVA and he got a hit off Strasbourg
Speaker 2: in the College World Series.
Speaker 5: So that see, that would that's one of those things
Speaker 5: like I would love to have, Like you'd love to
Speaker 5: have that, Like, oh yeah I got a hit off
Speaker 5: of like this immensely talented talk about.
Speaker 1: It, like back the closest thing of that for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: There was a kid in you know when I played
Speaker 2: in high school who was go He was like signed
Speaker 2: to pitch at uv A and he ended up hurting
Speaker 2: his arm so he didn't. But he was really really
Speaker 2: good and he threw a one hitter against us, and
Speaker 2: I didn't get the one hit, but I did work
Speaker 2: the count to full before I struck out against him.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, that was That was my.
Speaker 5: Best, but my best to as I caught a theoretical
Speaker 5: touchdown from Casey Weldon, who used to be a quarterback
Speaker 5: for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I think he played it
Speaker 5: like Florida State.
Speaker 4: Deep pass.
Speaker 5: I was able to catch it over a cornerback, which
Speaker 5: was really cool. And then I got to do a
Speaker 5: media BP session at the Diamondbacks one time and I
Speaker 5: had toughy ghost switches bat and they started launch and
Speaker 5: we had the machine and I stepped in the box
Speaker 5: and I was the only person to almost hit a homer.
Speaker 5: I hit it. I hit the So this is on
Speaker 5: Salt River Fields, the backfield, the one that the major
Speaker 5: leaguers use, And I turned on one and I hit
Speaker 5: three feet under the wall. Like so, I hit the wall,
Speaker 5: but it was three feet from going over with toughy
Speaker 5: ghost witch's bat. And it's like, had I just gotten
Speaker 5: a little bit more and hit a homer with a
Speaker 5: pro baseball player's bat on the field that they used,
Speaker 5: that would.
Speaker 1: Have been You could live on that the rest of
Speaker 1: your life.
Speaker 5: Oh, Yeah, yeah, the losers like us, so that that
Speaker 5: would have filled my my loser a bucket for a
Speaker 5: long time. Yeah, tell everybody, no big deal, but I hit.
Speaker 4: A hole round the Diamondbacks facility.
Speaker 2: Well, well we are losers, so we'll move on from
Speaker 2: reliving our glory. He can talk about actual good baseball players.
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you about another picture. When we
Speaker 2: had a friend of show, Brendan Tuma, on a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks ago to talk with me and Mayor, he
Speaker 2: talked a lot about Christian Scott and how about he
Speaker 2: was a stash that he thought everybody should be hanging
Speaker 2: on to.
Speaker 1: And now he's come up. He looks good.
Speaker 2: What do you make of the first couple of starts
Speaker 2: of his career? And you know, I don't want to
Speaker 2: call him like a like, Like he is breaking out
Speaker 2: to a degree this year. He's moved up a lot
Speaker 2: on a lot of the prospect rankings. He wasn't like
Speaker 2: he was unheard of before, but like he looks really
Speaker 2: really good in a way that he maybe didn't before.
Speaker 1: So what do you make of Scott?
Speaker 2: Both in terms of just evaluating him as a young pitcher,
Speaker 2: but also what we've seen so far at the big
Speaker 2: league level.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was never like I was never big on
Speaker 5: Christian Scott last year and even into this year because
Speaker 5: I just hadn't seen enough statistically like things look good.
Speaker 5: But it's one of those cases, and it's it's it's
Speaker 5: truly in like evaluating prospects, like when you get to
Speaker 5: see them live and you really or you know, you
Speaker 5: really lock into multiple games if you're watching even on
Speaker 5: like you know, MiLB dot TV or something, and you
Speaker 5: can lock into a player, you just pick up so
Speaker 5: much more. And I was even like a little bit like, oh,
Speaker 5: let's wait and see. And then I got to catch
Speaker 5: some of it early on and this year, and I
Speaker 5: jumped on it. And he had been on that Prospects
Speaker 5: to Stash article for some time. His first start. I
Speaker 5: was so impressed, and I've said this multiple times, just
Speaker 5: with his poise. I thought, cool cucumber. He was able
Speaker 5: to not get phased. I loved his ability to command.
Speaker 5: And I know I've said this a couple of times,
Speaker 5: but like there there are a lot of things that
Speaker 5: reminded me of Brandon Fought, Like what I wanted from
Speaker 5: Brandon Fought when he came up because thought had to
Speaker 5: adjust his pitch type to be like a sweeper, fastball
Speaker 5: sinker type of guy, and I and the command was
Speaker 5: a little bit spotty. Christian Scott had that right away,
Speaker 5: and that was the thing that stood out to me
Speaker 5: so much. He was the designation slider sweeper. You know
Speaker 5: he'll use those, but the split finger can kind of
Speaker 5: work as a sinker. And he was throwing split fingers.
Speaker 5: He was throwing fastballs up on corners, he was throwing
Speaker 5: the sweeper across the zone. I thought his stuff with
Speaker 5: command looked tippy top. And then in the next start
Speaker 5: got to hit up a little bit more. But you're
Speaker 5: seeing more of it. I mean, over two starts he's
Speaker 5: gone six. He's struck out at least six in both starts.
Speaker 5: Walks haven't been a big issue. Twenty eight percent k
Speaker 5: percentage to only six percent walk rate. That already is
Speaker 5: better than where Skeins is at. And I think Christian
Speaker 5: Scott isn't going to have the upside of the strikeouts,
Speaker 5: but if he continues to have a low walk rate,
Speaker 5: this is gonna work really well for him. Guys are
Speaker 5: not barreling him up because of the command with those pitches.
Speaker 5: I am very, very interested in Scott and he's been
Speaker 5: a pick up for weeks weeks weeks before he got
Speaker 5: called up. But what's so enticing now is I think
Speaker 5: he's locked to a S. I think it would take like, oh,
Speaker 5: we want to maintain this guy's innings and not ruin him,
Speaker 5: blah blah blah for them to send him down like
Speaker 5: they just sent Budo down. They've got spots in the rotation,
Speaker 5: and I think he's going to kind of continue rolling it.
Speaker 5: I think he's going to be one of those unherlded
Speaker 5: bets at the end of the year. Like I wouldn't
Speaker 5: be surprised in NL voting if like Christian Scott had
Speaker 5: like you know, top five Rookie of the Year votes
Speaker 5: or something like that when it's all said and done.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I'm very much into Christian Scott.
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about Jackson Holliday because the
Speaker 2: last time you were on, we spent like half an
Speaker 2: hour just like praising him, and you know, obviously I
Speaker 2: leave that up getting.
Speaker 1: Giddy and over the moon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it did not age entirely well, although I mean
Speaker 2: it's not like we said he was going to come
Speaker 2: out and be an MVP. From day one, Like he's
Speaker 2: the twenty year old kid who moved really faster than minors,
Speaker 2: and there's always an adjustment, you know. I've seen a
Speaker 2: lot of people mention that, you know, the gap between
Speaker 2: Triple A and the majors has basically never been bigger
Speaker 2: than it is now in terms of the talent gap.
Speaker 1: Like it's a hard transition to make.
Speaker 2: So I want to ask you essentially what I just
Speaker 2: which is how much are we panicking both for this
Speaker 2: year and long term? I'm assuming the answer long term
Speaker 2: is not at all. I mean that's literally only how
Speaker 2: I feel yet, like literally zero. As a reminder for everybody,
Speaker 2: the stat line two for thirty four in thirty six
Speaker 2: played appearances, he scored five runs. He struck out in
Speaker 2: like half of his app his played appearances, I believe
Speaker 2: it was literally half eighteen of his thirty six played appearances.
Speaker 1: Just so it's really overmatched.
Speaker 2: Looked fine in the field, good bass runner, And I
Speaker 2: actually kind of think he was starting to come around
Speaker 2: a little in his last couple of games. Not like
Speaker 2: getting hot, but I thought he looked a little more comfortable,
Speaker 2: just anecdotally, like watching every Orioles game, I thought he
Speaker 2: was looking a little more settled in at the plate,
Speaker 2: even if it wasn't leading to results yet. But they
Speaker 2: sent him back down. So long term, you and iron
Speaker 2: lockstep he's still, you know, arguably the best prospect of baseball.
Speaker 2: Not worried at all for this season if he gets
Speaker 2: called back up. When he gets called back up, how
Speaker 2: will you be reacting to that in any kind of
Speaker 2: non keeper form.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I guess you could look at it like
Speaker 5: I will be a glutton for punishment in that respect,
Speaker 5: because here's one thing I do believe is when he
Speaker 5: is back up, he will have answered. There's a lot
Speaker 5: of public pressure early on when he didn't make the
Speaker 5: opening day roster and they're like he needs to work
Speaker 5: on hitting lefties, and first at bat in the minors
Speaker 5: he hits off a left like it felt like a
Speaker 5: whole bunch of nonsense that they sold us. Now it
Speaker 5: definitely is. It's more of that like, oh yeah, we're
Speaker 5: not in management of baseball, and they knew what they
Speaker 5: were talking about. So I'm leading this to say the
Speaker 5: public pressure is gone. He failed at the major league level,
Speaker 5: they sent him back down, and they're going to have
Speaker 5: clear cut things. Part of it might just be get
Speaker 5: your head straight and then it's going to be you know,
Speaker 5: this is what didn't work at the major league level.
Speaker 5: Here's what we need to work on. So what I'm
Speaker 5: saying is when he comes up, when that happens, I
Speaker 5: feel confident that they will feel confident and they're going
Speaker 5: to have him up to get it bats. He won't
Speaker 5: be there to sit. So when he comes back up,
Speaker 5: I'm going to feel more calm, confident, and I will
Speaker 5: pick him up in every spot because long term, everything
Speaker 5: I said before still stands. I think he's a high contact,
Speaker 5: low strikeout guy, even though that's been his bugaboo. The
Speaker 5: guy gets on base, has always had an over four
Speaker 5: hundred OVP. I thought he was going to run. He
Speaker 5: just didn't get on base to even run, so that,
Speaker 5: you know, it's really tough to say. I just don't
Speaker 5: think there's anything to pull from the debut. Sometimes that happens,
Speaker 5: sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes there's gleaning ideas of the player.
Speaker 5: I don't think there's anything to pull from it. It
Speaker 5: may not be right, you know, because maybe he's gonna
Speaker 5: come back, and you know, I assume when he comes back,
Speaker 5: he's going to get the same treatment as far as
Speaker 5: how pitchers were attacking him, and that is going to
Speaker 5: be the thing he'll be working on in the minor,
Speaker 5: so that will be very telling. But I don't have
Speaker 5: any stash. I'm not trying to stash right now. Stashing
Speaker 5: prospects is an overall net failure for this year, and
Speaker 5: even though I think we're going to talk about guy
Speaker 5: that's going to be coming up very soon, stashing in
Speaker 5: general has been a net failure. That you can do
Speaker 5: things in better spots. Anyways, I'm fine with with not
Speaker 5: doing that, and I'm not stashing a lot of these
Speaker 5: players because I think it's a super unknown. And I
Speaker 5: also don't think the next big oriole to be called
Speaker 5: up is Jackson Holliday. I think I think it has
Speaker 5: to be Kobe Mayo. Kobe Mayo's destroyed, so that makes
Speaker 5: it even tougher for him unless there's a major injury
Speaker 5: or two to the middle infield and it's like, well,
Speaker 5: we clearly have to move him. But the problem is
Speaker 5: is Jordan Westburg can go over to second, Mayo can
Speaker 5: play third. So that's I think Holiday is going to
Speaker 5: have a longer road to get back. But I do
Speaker 5: believe when he is back up, that's going to be
Speaker 5: the time to trust because he'll have answered those questions
Speaker 5: that the Orioles were looking for.
Speaker 1: You read my mind on the on the stash question.
Speaker 1: That's interesting.
Speaker 2: So the thing with Mayo that I've been I think
Speaker 2: he's like ready, Like, I think he's a I love
Speaker 2: him as a prospect obviously, like both as an Orioles
Speaker 2: fan and for fantasy, like I would love to see
Speaker 2: him the big leagues. I've been kind of thinking, given
Speaker 2: his youth, give that there was some like swing and
Speaker 2: miss with the strikeouts.
Speaker 5: And there's still at Crimes. May turned over and he
Speaker 5: was having some strikeout issues.
Speaker 1: Yeah, still is.
Speaker 2: I've been wondering if Dave were kind of of the
Speaker 2: mindset of maybe waiting for him to be like a
Speaker 2: September call up and keeping that eligibility to compete for
Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year next year and try and get
Speaker 2: them a pick in the future, because he seems like
Speaker 2: the most obvious candidate. You know, a guy like Heston
Speaker 2: Kerstad is like twenty five years old already, and I
Speaker 2: know he just got sent back down Curestad, but like,
Speaker 2: you're not saving a twenty five year old for another
Speaker 2: year just to try and get Rookie of the Year, right.
Speaker 2: Connor Norby is I think a really good prospect, but
Speaker 2: probably blocked enough that he's not gonna win rooky of
Speaker 2: the Year next year, like Mayo's kind of the and
Speaker 2: Holiday being as good as he is, expecting him to
Speaker 2: lose that eligibility this year. So Mayo is kind of
Speaker 2: the one where I thought maybe if they were trying
Speaker 2: to play that system. Also the fact that they don't
Speaker 2: really need the infielder. I mean they do now that
Speaker 2: Holiday's down and they're starting Mateo or Arius every day.
Speaker 2: But for all those reasons, I thought that Mayo might
Speaker 2: be one that they did didn't aggressively promote. But I
Speaker 2: mean he's he's leading the organization in home runs, then
Speaker 2: the ones he hits are bombs, and I just I
Speaker 2: follow all the Orioles, you know, minor league accounts, and
Speaker 2: I'm watching these videos every day while the Orioles score
Speaker 2: one run, not that that happens often, they're a good
Speaker 2: team at the big league level, but the oorial score
Speaker 2: run run. Oh look, Mayo went three for five with
Speaker 2: a double and a home run and eight RBI, and
Speaker 2: it just seems like every day that's happening. I do
Speaker 2: really like Mayo, but like I'm worried that they won't
Speaker 2: call him up, you know, that soon. But that's interesting
Speaker 2: that you kind of highlight him as the next big
Speaker 2: call up. I do want to ask about h you know,
Speaker 2: kind of the other stashes you alluded to, if not holiday,
Speaker 2: because it's you know what we've already seen and he's
Speaker 2: a guy will pick up but don't really want to
Speaker 2: hold on to. Who are the guys the one or
Speaker 2: two names at the top of the stash rankings right now?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know, we'll do a segment on leading
Speaker 5: off and I'll have my article, my prospects to stash article.
Speaker 5: Last week, what I did was I lowered the number
Speaker 5: of guys that I was writing up that are of
Speaker 5: quote the idea of stashing, by the way, uses air
Speaker 5: quotes right now, because I know there's some people like, oh,
Speaker 5: you don't stash any and it's like, well, this year's
Speaker 5: kind of been right, But the idea of stashing is like,
Speaker 5: these are the guys that are going to be close
Speaker 5: to get some production and then i'd have a watch list.
Speaker 5: So this past week I lowered the number of guys
Speaker 5: that you're actually worth quote unquote stashing. And I raised
Speaker 5: the watch list players because it's like, I don't know,
Speaker 5: I don't know when these guys could come up, but
Speaker 5: you should. You should have these guys in mind. The
Speaker 5: reason I'm telling you this is like there's been a
Speaker 5: mount rushmore of players that have sat at the tippy
Speaker 5: top of like worth stashing, and at this point it's
Speaker 5: really only two players. And unfortunately the article is probably
Speaker 5: going to be the same in that respect, though other
Speaker 5: names will start coming up, and number one is Junior Caminaro.
Speaker 5: But the Junior Camenaro side got more interesting today. I
Speaker 5: think it was today or yesterday as we're doing this,
Speaker 5: is he played second base for the first time. He
Speaker 5: finally got off because he's played entire he was a
Speaker 5: shortstop at some point and then he's played third base
Speaker 5: all year. He started second base, and last week just
Speaker 5: for fun, because I absolutely nailed the Paul Skins call up,
Speaker 5: I decided I'm gonna do another prediction, and my prediction
Speaker 5: for cam and Aro because there's this negative article that
Speaker 5: came out about the Rays and holding him down and
Speaker 5: they're not looking to bring him up anytime soon. I
Speaker 5: said May twenty fourth, and I did that because I
Speaker 5: think that gives enough time for him to have consistent
Speaker 5: at bats if they did want to do a positional thing.
Speaker 5: That gives enough time. And really, there was a day
Speaker 5: off in between this time period. There's a day off
Speaker 5: on the twenty third, So I'm just gonna stick there.
Speaker 5: There's my update, and I feel better about it because
Speaker 5: he played second base and start at Brandon lau Is.
Speaker 5: I think he's hurt right now. Maybe this timeline gets
Speaker 5: pushed up and it's even sooner, but his bat has
Speaker 5: just been live, and I know unfortunately all the guys
Speaker 5: that get called up, they've been hitting over three hundred.
Speaker 5: That's where he is the positives. It's been a low
Speaker 5: strikeout rate, first time since Dominican Summer League. He has
Speaker 5: a double digi walk rate at tripa A. He's hitting
Speaker 5: over three hundred. He's got a three almost four or
Speaker 5: five slash. He's at seven homers in twenty four games.
Speaker 5: He has opposite field power for days. He's got an
Speaker 5: incredible sense of the plate, which I've always loved, and
Speaker 5: I don't think he's going to strike out a bunch.
Speaker 5: I do think that pure raw power is going to
Speaker 5: play well for him, good hard hit numbers, you know,
Speaker 5: good hard hit and barreling. That's the type of guy
Speaker 5: that he is. And now that he's playing second base,
Speaker 5: they're finding some spots for him because Isak Prates has
Speaker 5: been great. He really has been a really good player.
Speaker 5: So the only option at this point had been with
Speaker 5: then you d h Camonaro or parades. But maybe they're
Speaker 5: now looking at it and saying, screw it, we can
Speaker 5: get Cameron Aro in that lineup because Caballero has played
Speaker 5: well at shortstop. You've got a med Rosario who's playing around,
Speaker 5: and they're gonna look. My idea would be for Caminaro
Speaker 5: to be the everyday second basement and then he also
Speaker 5: has flexibility.
Speaker 4: To play third.
Speaker 5: That's what they value. They value players that can play
Speaker 5: around the field. Cow Manzardo told me year and a
Speaker 5: half ago they wanted him to pick up a third
Speaker 5: base glove in spring training because they wanted to have
Speaker 5: that flexibility, and then they traded him. But cam and
Speaker 5: Aro doing this, I think that is the most telling
Speaker 5: sign of this raised team. So I'm gonna kind of
Speaker 5: stick to it. I think we're in a ten to
Speaker 5: two week window where Cameron Aro could come up and
Speaker 5: the new position helps, and he is, you know, one
Speaker 5: of the more prolific bats out there. So that is like,
Speaker 5: that's the number one guy.
Speaker 2: And I know the other guy that we talked about
Speaker 2: in the pre show who I am really excited to
Speaker 2: see in the big leagues is James Wood. You have
Speaker 2: Cameron now ahead of Wood in terms of your STASH rankings.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and Stash in Dynasty, they're both next to each other.
Speaker 5: James Wood is immensely interesting, especially from this list because
Speaker 5: he's the power speed guy. I didn't even realize this
Speaker 5: until I just look now. He has a lower K
Speaker 5: percentage than Cameron Aro in the minors so far, and
Speaker 5: he has like double the games, which is very impressive
Speaker 5: because last year in Double A James Wood had a
Speaker 5: thirty three percent K percentage. I watched a bunch when
Speaker 5: he was a padre and he has some bad swing
Speaker 5: and miss. He has really worked and changed on that.
Speaker 5: He has a almost career high walk percentage at fifteen percent,
Speaker 5: an under twenty percent K percentage, seven homers, nine stolen bases,
Speaker 5: a three four five slash. He's hitting three point fifty
Speaker 5: seven in Triple A right now. This is literally, I mean,
Speaker 5: the Nationals are putting out Nixon, Zell and Jacob Young,
Speaker 5: and I don't want to be dismissive of this entire
Speaker 5: lineup or anything like that. You know, Victor Roebliss is
Speaker 5: out there in right field right now. Any other team
Speaker 5: they're gonna go and they're gonna put out James Wood.
Speaker 5: But this team is I would not be shocked. I
Speaker 5: suppose if they held him back to September to try
Speaker 5: to get extra pit compensation, but at the same time
Speaker 5: going back to Kobe Mayo or James Wood, Like, I
Speaker 5: don't know what you what is the growth of keeping
Speaker 5: a guy like James Wood who obviously has this Like
Speaker 5: you tell me what are the things that need to
Speaker 5: be fixed? And this is kind of rhetorical. I'm asking
Speaker 5: is like, Okay, what do you guys want him to
Speaker 5: work on? Because he's hitting three fifty seven, he's running,
Speaker 5: he's stealing, he's not striking out, he's walking more than
Speaker 5: he's ever done. He's doing everything you could do. Is
Speaker 5: it advantageous to keep him down here? Is it advantageous
Speaker 5: for Mayo to stay down with the team, maybe to
Speaker 5: work on strikeouts? But what do you get if you
Speaker 5: keep them there for four months? What do you get
Speaker 5: with James? Would you keep them there for four months?
Speaker 2: Outside of it, I've been a huge proponent of in
Speaker 2: talking to my friends about all this, like kind of
Speaker 2: log in with the Orioles about like just like trade
Speaker 2: somebody to make it happen, because even if you take
Speaker 2: a short term hit, like while they're adjusting, because at
Speaker 2: a certain point, I'm a big believer in if you
Speaker 2: have solved a level and are stuck there, it's going
Speaker 2: to hinder your development, Like it's gonna actually be by
Speaker 2: not continuing to be like, oh I need to grow
Speaker 2: into the next step.
Speaker 1: Now I've already solved this. I just think it's bad
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 2: A team like the Orioles, I get it a little
Speaker 2: more because they're like, we don't want to trade Ryan
Speaker 2: or Herd because he's getting the crap out of the ball,
Speaker 2: and like we want to win the games.
Speaker 1: The Nationals the only.
Speaker 2: Thought process with them, and I know they've got off
Speaker 2: to a better start than you know, kind of expected
Speaker 2: or whatever, but like the only thought for them should
Speaker 2: be what is best for James. Would So if you
Speaker 2: think James Wood has solved the minors, he needs to
Speaker 2: be on the next plane to DC. Like there's just
Speaker 2: like to me, that's the only the only calculus is
Speaker 2: has he solved this level?
Speaker 1: Yes, time to call him up.
Speaker 5: And like I'd love to hear that, Like, so you
Speaker 5: tell me not again, this is rhetorical to their management,
Speaker 5: tell me what the thing that he hasn't solved? So
Speaker 5: if he has solved it and he has got this
Speaker 5: level down, do you like, is it important that you
Speaker 5: see sixty games of consistent production or do you think
Speaker 5: maybe at the point where a guy is hitting three
Speaker 5: point fifty seven, there are around two hundred plate appearances,
Speaker 5: is that maybe enough to give them more of a
Speaker 5: challenge and to be fair, like, you know, maybe we're
Speaker 5: being hyper aggressive about it, but when they're putting out
Speaker 5: like the Merrill Vargas and Victor Robliss and Jacob Young,
Speaker 5: and it's like, yeah, James Wood would instantly be the
Speaker 5: best the medical player on this team. And then guess
Speaker 5: what I think from a developmental standpoint, it is beneficial
Speaker 5: for that guy to get the major league time and
Speaker 5: then if the warts are there, you go and fix them.
Speaker 5: It doesn't not everybody has to be Joe Adell where
Speaker 5: it's three years of disastrous you threw them into the
Speaker 5: fire and it didn't work, and it's like, well, no,
Speaker 5: be very hands on, but why do not the amount
Speaker 5: Creig Council. I didn't get to say this earlier, Cret
Speaker 5: Council years ago when talking about Hestin and Kira or
Speaker 5: Kesten Heira, I said Heston kers yeah, yeah, he was
Speaker 5: having a rough time. And Crek Council was like, listen
Speaker 5: the jump because you said this earlier. The jump from
Speaker 5: Triple A to the majors is as big of a
Speaker 5: gap as it's ever been in baseball. And the more
Speaker 5: that we have, I mean, we have new pitch introductions,
Speaker 5: the sweepers are taking over this year. It's the year
Speaker 5: of the splitter, high fastballs. There are that the hands
Speaker 5: on nists that happens in the lower levels I think
Speaker 5: would kind of astonish people because I think we have
Speaker 5: an idea of like what base and every team is.
Speaker 5: There's a group of guys with tablets that are like, Okay,
Speaker 5: you did this and this, and it's not the case
Speaker 5: the amount of in person work and attention that happens
Speaker 5: at the major league level that doesn't happen at minor
Speaker 5: league levels would throw people off. So why not take
Speaker 5: a guy who's doing everything right, get them to the majors.
Speaker 5: Let the organization, the top people in the organization analytically
Speaker 5: break down everything, especially if they're struggling, and then you
Speaker 5: take that down. Same thing I would have said about
Speaker 5: Jackson Holiday. Some teams just think let a guy go,
Speaker 5: and maybe the Nationals would do that. But yeah, this
Speaker 5: is all the like, this is just the criminal stuff.
Speaker 5: We look at Camanaro and James Wood and we see
Speaker 5: how successful they are and we want to see them up.
Speaker 5: Executives have a pretty good argument right now, and they
Speaker 5: can go, Okay, that's cool. Well look at Jackson Holiday,
Speaker 5: look at com Manzardo, look at Jordan Beck. You know,
Speaker 5: list goes on and on. They can kind of keep
Speaker 5: doing that. But if you're going to get into the
Speaker 5: stash game, those of the two that I think James
Speaker 5: Wood and Camnaro are within two or three weeks. There's
Speaker 5: a host of other players that are worth the common conversation,
Speaker 5: but I do think it's circumstantial. It's like if if
Speaker 5: there was an injury in the Orioles rotation. Kde Povich
Speaker 5: is one of the first players I would think that
Speaker 5: would come up to the majors. Adam Maser just got
Speaker 5: called up the Triple A with the Padres. He's had
Speaker 5: a phenomenal year. If there was a big injury in
Speaker 5: the rotation for the Padres, that would be a guy.
Speaker 5: So I think there's a lot of situational prospect issues.
Speaker 5: There's only so many that force their way on, and
Speaker 5: I think Camonaro and James Wood are the players that
Speaker 5: are forcing their way on.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's the same stylistically or that he
Speaker 2: is as good as what I'm about to say the
Speaker 2: name I'm about to throw out, But when I think
Speaker 2: of James would I think of Ellie da la Cruz
Speaker 2: in the sense that they're just way too big for
Speaker 2: the positions they play, and yet they're still.
Speaker 1: Like some of the best prospects. Somebody asked me, like
Speaker 1: our speed.
Speaker 5: And like a year ago when I was on CBS,
Speaker 5: someone asked, They're like, who is the next Ellie de
Speaker 5: la Cruz And I said, all right, I'll give you
Speaker 5: the name. And it's not just because of a one
Speaker 5: hundred percent of the physical presence, but you're talking about
Speaker 5: a player that puts up crazy big evs. James Wood
Speaker 5: is a guy that can hit when one eighteen that
Speaker 5: runs way bigger than their physical style. It is James Wood,
Speaker 5: and James Wood does have a physical similarity to Ellie
Speaker 5: day La Cruz, though he's bigger. But James Wood is
Speaker 5: the type of guy that, like I said, one eighteen
Speaker 5: Evs could hit thirty homers, could steal thirty bases like that,
Speaker 5: is a guy that could come onto the scene and
Speaker 5: go nuts. The difference between, ironically, between those two guys
Speaker 5: was at one point I really would have said, like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: James is actually just like Ellie. But James has so
Speaker 5: vastly improved his back to ball skills and his strikeout
Speaker 5: percentage and making good outs and putting you know, barrels
Speaker 5: on the ball that it's like James Wood might have
Speaker 5: a higher ceiling at that point. I don't think he's
Speaker 5: gonna steal like Ellie. Like Ellie has proven. You know,
Speaker 5: the best thing I've done this year was that lay
Speaker 5: day La Cruz to lead the league in stolen bases.
Speaker 1: And he's doing that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's doing that in the droves right now. But
Speaker 5: like James Wood is the type of guy the in
Speaker 5: the future, the comp might be maybe more similar to
Speaker 5: like an Aaron Judge. You know, that might be where
Speaker 5: it goes at some point. But yeah, yeah, the main
Speaker 5: crux here is, like you want to talk about dynamic
Speaker 5: skill sets, James Wood has that feel of a guy
Speaker 5: that could lead the league in homers and stolen bases
Speaker 5: in like a month.
Speaker 4: He's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely quickly.
Speaker 2: You know, I've been watching a lot of clips lately
Speaker 2: from one of my favorite movies the last decade, which
Speaker 2: is The Martian. And speaking of The Martian, Jason Dominguez
Speaker 2: is rehabbing, so we're kind of up on it on time,
Speaker 2: But just some quick thoughts from you on you know
Speaker 2: what it means, what we'll see from him when he
Speaker 2: gets back to the big league level and is healthy again.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if he's sitting out there, I'm picking him up.
Speaker 5: He's still one of my favorite from a dynasty perspective.
Speaker 5: This is probably the last opportunities for buys if they
Speaker 5: even exist, because he just started his rehab assignment and
Speaker 5: that's a huge thing. He's going to get back into
Speaker 5: playing time. He got a hit in his first game.
Speaker 5: He's an insane talent that I think people have kind
Speaker 5: of forgot about. So you know, in Dynasty, I think
Speaker 5: he's a great buy that it still might be a
Speaker 5: little bit cheaper in redraft to be sitting out there.
Speaker 5: I guess I don't assume him is like the prospects
Speaker 5: to stash because he's made his major league debut. But
Speaker 5: if he is out there, i'd stash him because I
Speaker 5: think you're probably two weeks ish away, just however long
Speaker 5: they feel the rehab assignment has to go. And I
Speaker 5: don't think it's you're gonna throw him back into Triple A.
Speaker 5: I think you're gonna throw him right back into the
Speaker 5: major So there's a little bit of a glut there
Speaker 5: with some of the guys that are up. But maybe
Speaker 5: they you know, maybe they cut bait with a with
Speaker 5: a Trent Grisham, and you know, Dimingez can get back
Speaker 5: in the outfield. Maybe he's dhing a little bit. You
Speaker 5: keep stanting at the DH like Jason, Dimingez is going
Speaker 5: to get back in that lineup. So if he is
Speaker 5: out there, you should get him. And I have pretty
Speaker 5: high expectations because I was very impressed with the major
Speaker 5: league debut that he had hit two fifty eight four
Speaker 5: homers in eight games. I think he's gonna kind of
Speaker 5: pick right back up.
Speaker 1: Welsh.
Speaker 2: It's always a pleasure to talk to you. Thanks so
Speaker 2: much for coming on. You know, I appreciate you making
Speaker 2: the time and giving us all this knowledge. Everybody stick around.
Speaker 2: I'll be right back with Mayor on the other side.
Speaker 2: All right, Mayor, let's wrap up here with our weekend excitement.
Speaker 1: I will go first.
Speaker 2: Wasn't a super long list, so I just highlighted kind
Speaker 2: of the thing that stood out to me most, and
Speaker 2: that is Paul skeins against the Cubs again, you know,
Speaker 2: before innings.
Speaker 1: Seven strikeouts in that first start.
Speaker 2: Obviously, like we talked about this, everybody listening just heard
Speaker 2: me talk about this with Welsh, you know, most typed
Speaker 2: pitching debut since Steven Strasburg. I'm still salty about having
Speaker 2: to give away the tickets for Strasburg's debut, which is
Speaker 2: a story everybody heard during.
Speaker 1: The interview with Welsh.
Speaker 2: But again, just really really exciting, you know, pitching prospect
Speaker 2: here finally got the call up, and he's going up
Speaker 2: against the same team he faced in the first game out.
Speaker 2: I want to see if he does better. I want
Speaker 2: to see if he goes into the into the you know,
Speaker 2: deeper into the game. Not that he was awful in
Speaker 2: that first start, but you know it was your first
Speaker 2: start ever. You know, it's you never know how a
Speaker 2: guy's going to react to that. But I'm just really
Speaker 2: excited to see what he does over the weekend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, Paul Skins is the obvious one. We
Speaker 3: kind of talked before the show and I was like,
Speaker 3: I don't really know what I wanted to see. Paul
Speaker 3: Skins is a really good one. That's the obvious one.
Speaker 3: Matt Perrault the host of our Daily Juice podcast over
Speaker 3: on the Betting Pro Feed, which I encourage everyone to
Speaker 3: check out. He does a daily really quick hitting you know,
Speaker 3: here's what I'm betting for the day. It's a it's
Speaker 3: a really enjoyable fifteen minute, you know, ten to fifteen
Speaker 3: minute podcasts every morning.
Speaker 4: Matt Parol is actually going to be at that game.
Speaker 3: He's he's flying from Vegas to Chicago to go see
Speaker 3: Paul Skins. So excited to hear how he how he
Speaker 3: thinks he does. We kind of default to pitching matchups
Speaker 3: or kind of team matchups. I'm like, what we're excited
Speaker 3: for this weekend and we're kind of talking. Before the show,
Speaker 3: I was kind of just you know, you were you
Speaker 3: were talking about whatever you were talking about. It wasn't listening,
Speaker 3: but I was looking at the weekend slate and I
Speaker 3: was just kind of like, ah, I don't really know
Speaker 3: what I'm looking forward to. Like, I'm definitely looking forward
Speaker 3: to watching baseball, but I mean I want to see
Speaker 3: Jack Flaherty's at Gallen, both because I think that's a
Speaker 3: good pitching matchup and because I have a lot of
Speaker 3: those guys in my leagues, so that's a matchup. I'm
Speaker 3: looking forward to Freddie Perlta justin Berlander. I don't have
Speaker 3: any Verlander, but I have a bunch of Peralta and
Speaker 3: that's a good pitching matchup. And I'm I just keep
Speaker 3: waiting for the Astros to turn back into the Astros
Speaker 3: and like we said, are they going to sell if
Speaker 3: they keep plummeting? You know, not that I thought I
Speaker 3: want them to do better. I'm ready to not see
Speaker 3: the Houston and the Alcs this year. Enough is enough
Speaker 3: on that front. But other than that, I feel like
Speaker 3: there's a lot of like okay pitching matches, but not
Speaker 3: a lot of kind of premier ones, So Paul Skenes
Speaker 3: is kind of the obvious one. And then there's just
Speaker 3: a lot of like, oh, that's interesting, you know, that's
Speaker 3: that's okay, Like I don't I don't feel like unless
Speaker 3: I'm missing.
Speaker 1: You don't need to fake it or sell us soldness.
Speaker 2: It's not the most exciting from what the type of
Speaker 2: stuff you and I usually highlight this segment. I think
Speaker 2: we've named enough of them.
Speaker 1: We don't.
Speaker 2: We don't need to to, you know, lose the trust
Speaker 2: of our audience by just pretending we care about.
Speaker 4: You know, some of the lower I'm not pretending. I'm
Speaker 4: saying I'm trying to. I'm trying to look is.
Speaker 6: Not the same as like we can excitement, what are
Speaker 6: we really looking forward? I was also looking like are
Speaker 6: there any good like team matchups this weekend? Yeah, I
Speaker 6: was kind of and I haven't really stood out to
Speaker 6: me white sox Yankees doesn't really do it.
Speaker 2: For me, shockingly. All right, let's go to our two
Speaker 2: start picture competition. Last week, my picture Emerson Hancock got
Speaker 2: sent down after his first start.
Speaker 1: I knew I was kind of going out on a limb.
Speaker 2: Anyway, it was like not a week I love that
Speaker 2: was let me just take a shot here on Hancock.
Speaker 2: For whatever reason crossed my mind last week, Uh did
Speaker 2: not pan out because well, part of it was I
Speaker 2: was excited about to start against the A's and didn't
Speaker 2: even get it. Your pitcher this week is even worse
Speaker 2: as you mentioned Renel Blaco, or is it worse? Is
Speaker 2: getting sent down better or worse than your guy getting
Speaker 2: suspended during the week you picked him as a two
Speaker 2: star pitcher. I genuinely don't know the answer to that,
Speaker 2: but as you are already highlighting the outline because of
Speaker 2: that fact, A, you know you got an auto win
Speaker 2: last week, I would say, and B I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: an auto win this week. So I believe we are
Speaker 2: actually tied through six weeks including this week, that we're
Speaker 2: currently in at three wins a piece.
Speaker 1: So it's an exciting race so far. Who you got
Speaker 1: for this week?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the time breaker there was not just
Speaker 3: that your guy got sent down and then my guy
Speaker 3: got suspended, which it's kind of on one hand, it's
Speaker 3: kind of fun because normally we have to kind of
Speaker 3: wait an extra week to talk about who won. Now
Speaker 3: we're two weeks ahead, we already know into the future,
Speaker 3: who's won not only this week but next week or
Speaker 3: not like last week but this week kind of a situation.
Speaker 3: I think the tiebreaker there is that my guy wasn't
Speaker 3: just suspended. He was suspended for cheating. He didn't like
Speaker 3: get into you didn't like throw at someone and get
Speaker 3: like thrown out of the game and get a five
Speaker 3: game suspension. He got caught cheating, allegedly cheating and was suspended.
Speaker 3: So I feel like that tiebreaker makes it worse than
Speaker 3: getting sent down, although they are both pretty bad. My
Speaker 3: pitcher for this week is Kyle Bradish.
Speaker 4: Did you say, is it.
Speaker 1: Bratish or British bradish?
Speaker 4: Bradish?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: I don't know why I doubted myself there, but I
Speaker 3: made sure for one of the first times ever, I
Speaker 3: got to the sheet before you. And similar to the
Speaker 3: pitching matchups and the team matchups for this weekend, I
Speaker 3: didn't love what we were seeing in terms of two
Speaker 3: start pitchers next week, and so I was like, you know,
Speaker 3: not only does he have two good matchups in the
Speaker 3: one of the worst teams we've ever seen in the
Speaker 3: White Sox and the struggling Mighty League Cardinals, but also
Speaker 3: I got to grab an Oils pitcher before you did,
Speaker 3: and so I was happy to take Kyle Bradish.
Speaker 2: Uh. Yeah, you know what, that's okay. I'm not beating
Speaker 2: myself up over it. He didn't do that well today
Speaker 2: eighty five pitches and four innings. The O's did get
Speaker 2: the window extend there.
Speaker 4: He's warming up for me next week, that's why.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Suell for me, I'm going with Chris sale
Speaker 2: Has By the way, do you know Chris Sales thirty five?
Speaker 2: Like I know, he's been around a while, but I
Speaker 2: didn't realize he he'd hit the mid thirties yet or
Speaker 2: like that level of it. I would have guessed like
Speaker 2: thirty two or thirty three. But he's He's pitched really
Speaker 2: well in his last three starts. His last three starts,
Speaker 2: he's gone a combined eighteen innings one earned run. What
Speaker 2: is this twenty eight strikeouts? I didn't actually I had
Speaker 2: to do math on the fly, just one walk. So
Speaker 2: he's been really good since since the calendar flip to May,
Speaker 2: and he was good even prior to that too.
Speaker 1: He's obviously had a really stellar season so far, so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take him.
Speaker 2: His matchups a are against the Padres and at the Pirates.
Speaker 2: So we'll see who breaks the tie here seven weeks
Speaker 2: into the season and takes a lead in our contest.
Speaker 2: Any other thoughts here before we wrap up? Nope, all right,
Speaker 2: we'll get out of there on that. Thank you everybody
Speaker 2: for tuning in. Thank you again to Welsh for joining
Speaker 2: me earlier. I hope everybody enjoyed that segment, and I
Speaker 2: hope everybody enjoyed the show. For Mayor and Welsh, I'm
Speaker 2: Ryan Warmley.
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