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Speaker 2: I am Ryan Warmley, joined as always by Mike Mayer.

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Speaker 2: Later in the show, I have a conversation with our

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Speaker 2: friend and colleague Chris Welsh. We talk about Paul Skeins,

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Speaker 2: we talk about Christian Scott, we talk about Jackson Holliday,

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Speaker 2: we talk about Jason Demingez. We'll talk about some other

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Speaker 2: prospects to stash now that schemes is up. It's a

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Speaker 2: pretty good conversation so definitely check around that in the

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Speaker 2: second half of the show. Start off, as we always

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Speaker 2: do with rounding the bases.

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Speaker 1: Mayor.

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Speaker 2: I was playing softball last night and then I saw

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Speaker 2: a message from you that said, well, I guess we

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Speaker 2: need to talk about Ronelle Blanco on tomorrow's show. And

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Speaker 2: I said why in my head, and I went and

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Speaker 2: looked it up. I was like, did he get hurt?

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Speaker 2: You know, did he get shelled? Turns out he's been cheating.

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Speaker 2: I mean I say that kind of tongue and cheek.

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Speaker 2: It's like, not entirely clear. He has been suspended for

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Speaker 2: ten days by Major League Baseball. They found substance on

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Speaker 2: his arm and it was checked and he was out

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Speaker 2: of the game, and, like I said, now suspended. What's

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Speaker 2: really interesting in situations like this for me is less

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Speaker 2: looking backwards at you know, trying to figure out how

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Speaker 2: much of what he had done this season was related

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Speaker 2: to the cheating, intentional or otherwise or whatever, you know,

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Speaker 2: like looking at spin rates and things like that. I

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Speaker 2: saw Welsh tweeting about this. Actually it's more about looking forward.

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Speaker 2: What do we expect out of him when he returns.

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Speaker 2: So that's kind of where I'm at. What was your

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Speaker 3: Well, my initial takeaway was, oh, no, he's my two

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Speaker 3: to I guess I'm going to automatically lose. And that's

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Speaker 3: one of the main reasons I initially messaged you. I

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Speaker 3: was like, well, got to talk about this. What a

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Speaker 3: disaster for me. I've also I'm also someone who has

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Speaker 4: But like when he kind.

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Speaker 3: Of broke out and had just no hitter, we talked

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Speaker 3: kind of agreed. You know, this is this is kind

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Speaker 3: of a fluke thing. It's not gonna last. He's going

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Speaker 3: eight starts in and the number. You know, there are

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's like you said, has he been cheating all along?

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Speaker 3: You know, is this a one off thing? And you

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Speaker 3: Does it mean he's always been cheating? Like I feel

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Speaker 3: now it's like, can you even you know, the CBS

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, I will buy low now emphasis

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: But if I can truly buy low and get him

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Speaker 2: you know, best case scenario, he comes back and he

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Speaker 2: and a half of the season, and it's kind of

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Speaker 1: Worst case I didn't give up much to get him.

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Speaker 2: I think you know, if you asked me, you know, buy, seller, hold,

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Speaker 2: the correct answer is probably hold. I would think I

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Speaker 2: would not be selling low. You obviously can't sell high

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Speaker 2: right now. I would not be selling low. I would

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Speaker 4: to hold and not sell low.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's if he comes back and stinks up

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Speaker 3: ten games. And he was he was arguing, we have

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Speaker 3: if that was rosen or not, Like it's not hard,

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Speaker 4: Know, we'll know what the substance is.

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Speaker 3: And he kind of made the case like you can

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Speaker 3: that's not necessarily something that you know, is out of

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Speaker 4: As you just said, Yep, that's sticky stuff. I don't

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Speaker 3: I think I think you're cheating and you're out of

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Speaker 3: this game and ten games suspension. I thought that was

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Speaker 2: If you are waiting on public checks and balances for

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Speaker 1: Waiting a long time.

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Speaker 4: That's fair.

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Speaker 1: We'll tell you that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's been one of the more interesting stories

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Speaker 2: And I'm really curious, really curious to see what he

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Speaker 1: I don't even care who he's facing.

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Speaker 3: And you know, there's also some argument to be made

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Speaker 2: Next topic here, U stat Cast really interestingly released swing

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Speaker 2: tracking data.

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Speaker 1: So this is stuff like the.

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Speaker 2: That speed on the swing, the that length in terms

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Speaker 2: The average bat speed for the best hitter in Major

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Speaker 3: Who their value is going to go up, Like they're

439
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Speaker 3: going to go to a better lineup, or they're going

440
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Speaker 3: to go to a you know, just a better like

441
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Speaker 3: if they're especially if they're a picture, if they're going

442
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Speaker 3: to go to a better team, have more run support,

443
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Speaker 3: have better defense behind them, potentially win more games kind

444
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Speaker 3: of thing, And just you know who could probably just

445
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Speaker 3: use a change of scenery.

446
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Speaker 4: I think you mentioned Alex Bragman.

447
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Speaker 3: He's probably you know, his numbers don't look good enough

448
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Speaker 3: despite his big game the other day. Don't know if

449
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,200
Speaker 3: a change of scenery is going to matter that much

450
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Speaker 3: for him, the Astros should be a lot better than

451
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Speaker 3: they are. It's not like he's in a bad lineup.

452
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Speaker 3: He's in a good lineup. But just I'm not really

453
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Speaker 3: sure what's going on there, Joe Adallas.

454
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Speaker 2: I'm not really expecting the Astros to sell like that.

455
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Speaker 2: Just maybe I'm just it's just so ingrained in my

456
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Speaker 2: head that they're always in the alcs. But it's just

457
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Speaker 2: it's weird for me to imagine this iteration of the

458
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Speaker 2: roster that they, like you said, they should be better

459
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Speaker 2: than they are. I just I can't imagine that two

460
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Speaker 2: months from now they'll be selling.

461
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Speaker 1: But maybe I'm wrong.

462
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they would.

463
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Speaker 3: I think they would need to continue, and like you said,

464
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Speaker 3: they're not going to be one of those teams that

465
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Speaker 3: sells early. They're going to ride this into the ground

466
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Speaker 3: and only sell that they have to, you know, late July.

467
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Speaker 3: Joe Adell is a name that kind of is interesting

468
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Speaker 3: just because of his like he's kind of breaking out finally,

469
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Speaker 3: but he's in He's not in a great lineup.

470
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Speaker 4: Trout's gonna be out for a while.

471
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Speaker 2: I promise I won't interrupt you on all these guys,

472
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Speaker 2: but I do just have to say on Adell, Like,

473
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Speaker 2: I would be really wary of trading for him. Uh, absolutely,

474
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Speaker 2: because not even about just like the past, but like,

475
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Speaker 2: let's say you even believe that it's that the breakout

476
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Speaker 2: is one hundred percent legit, and you're like.

477
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Speaker 3: Wait, I mean trading Wait, I'm gonna interrupt you now,

478
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Speaker 3: and the tables have turned. Yeah, do you mean wary

479
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 3: of trading him as a fantasy manager or as an

480
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Speaker 3: MMV team?

481
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Speaker 4: Both?

482
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Speaker 2: And I'm wary of trading for him in both because

483
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Speaker 2: even if you I'm worried of trading for him in

484
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Speaker 2: fantasy if you expect him to be traded away from

485
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Speaker 2: the Angels, and I'm wary of trading for him in

486
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Speaker 2: real life. You know, if you're any team not the Angels,

487
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Speaker 2: I think I might have said, oo, the Angels.

488
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Speaker 1: Because even if you believe it.

489
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Speaker 2: Is one hundred percent legitimate and this is a real

490
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Speaker 2: breakout and he is now this hitter, I worry that

491
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Speaker 2: it took him so long to get to that point

492
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Speaker 2: in Los Angeles that whatever they did to work with him, like,

493
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Speaker 2: I think it's probably meaningful given all the struggles he

494
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Speaker 2: had before, And I would be really scared of him

495
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Speaker 2: changing sceneries. You know, it's it's like like the opposite

496
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Speaker 2: of Bregmann, Like I would be really worried about a

497
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Speaker 2: change of scenery negatively impacting him, even if you think

498
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Speaker 2: the breakout is real in Los Angeles?

499
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Speaker 1: Is that?

500
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Speaker 2: Does that make sense? Am I like kind of maybe

501
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Speaker 2: overthinking it? Or would you be happy to trade him

502
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Speaker 2: even if he gets traded in fantasy versus reality?

503
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Speaker 4: I think it's fair. I think there's a lot to

504
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Speaker 4: worry about.

505
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Speaker 3: You know, we already kind of talked about Joe Odell,

506
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Speaker 3: and you know, everything looks kind of good, but it's

507
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Speaker 3: looked so bad for so long that it's hard to

508
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Speaker 3: believe this is just a whole new Joe Odell.

509
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Speaker 4: I think you would have to be.

510
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Speaker 3: Confident in wherever he's like being traded to, and kind

511
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Speaker 3: of you know, it's impossible to like know all this

512
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Speaker 3: stuff off the back, you know, just in the back

513
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Speaker 3: of your mind of just you know, which which kind

514
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Speaker 3: of teams have like a really good track record of

515
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Speaker 3: developing these young you know, these young hitters. The Angels

516
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Speaker 3: are probably not one of those teams, So maybe he

517
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Speaker 3: could go somewhere where they do have a better track

518
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Speaker 3: record of developing young hitters like the Orioles of a

519
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Speaker 3: team that has done that it recently, someone who isn't

520
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Speaker 3: the Rockies, who are just like the poster team of

521
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Speaker 3: how to not develop prospects, but something like something like

522
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Speaker 3: that where you would you would have to be like, Okay,

523
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Speaker 3: this is good. He's going to go to a better ballpark,

524
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Speaker 3: a better lineup, and to a team with a track

525
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Speaker 3: record of developing, you know, young hitters. So I think

526
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Speaker 3: that would be kind of but even that, like we're

527
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Speaker 3: talking redraft, like how much of a difference is going

528
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Speaker 3: to make this season as opposed to like a keeper

529
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Speaker 3: of dynasty league where you can kind of see, you know,

530
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Speaker 3: changes going forward.

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Speaker 2: I would not be going after somebody like Tanner Scott

532
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Speaker 2: in fantasy because I think if he gets traded it's

533
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Speaker 2: likely as like a seventh or eighth inning guy in

534
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Speaker 2: an already good bullpen. I don't think it's likely that

535
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Speaker 2: he's a closer somewhere else, so I think he would

536
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Speaker 2: lose value, you know, maybe kind of the same thought

537
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Speaker 2: for Copek.

538
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Speaker 1: I mean some of these other like.

539
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Speaker 2: Hayeses Lozardo, you know, would would certainly have a better

540
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Speaker 2: chance at wins and then another uh, you know team,

541
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Speaker 2: But it's not like he's you know, it's not like

542
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Speaker 2: he's somebody that I mean, there's talent that I don't

543
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Speaker 2: I don't want to like like downplay the talent there,

544
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Speaker 2: but like it hasn't Quip been there this season, right,

545
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Speaker 2: So I'm not sure how much value he's bringing, even

546
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Speaker 2: if there's a better chance for wins.

547
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

548
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd have to hope for like a bounce back

549
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 3: to kind of the potential we've seen this. You know,

550
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Speaker 3: he's like a high ceiling, low flower kind of guy,

551
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Speaker 3: so it's hard to know what you're going to get there,

552
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 3: Michael Michael Kopak, is anything that would be interesting, but

553
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Speaker 3: he would have to be like you said, like the

554
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Speaker 3: Tanner Scott situation. I need him to go to a

555
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Speaker 3: place where he's closing. And it's like he's probably more

556
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Speaker 3: likely to be like that multi inning you know, bring

557
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Speaker 3: him in the six and seven then you know, get

558
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Speaker 3: six guys out kind of a thing. Even though the

559
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Speaker 3: White Sox are using him as a closer, and I

560
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Speaker 3: think that's his future is being a closer. I think

561
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Speaker 3: the starter experiment is over. Let's let's just make him

562
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Speaker 3: a closer. He's got the stuff to be a good closer.

563
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Speaker 3: Let's just lean into that and just let's go have

564
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Speaker 3: a career. Michael Kopek, Let's not worry about the starter stuff.

565
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Speaker 4: Yeah, his name, you know.

566
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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe he's getting older and would do some you know,

567
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 3: do for some negative stuff. But he's like being He's

568
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Speaker 3: like fine right now in a lineup that is not

569
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Speaker 3: fine around him.

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Speaker 2: The most intriguing name by a mile in this article

571
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Speaker 2: is Mason Miller. Oh yeah, do you think he gets moved?

572
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 2: I have no idea what the what the a's are,

573
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Speaker 2: What wouldn't even take to get him, because like the

574
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Speaker 2: a's are bad and you and you generally want to

575
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Speaker 2: cap I know they like had a hot streak greasely,

576
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Speaker 2: but like you generally, if you're a bad team want

577
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Speaker 2: to capitalize on a strong reliever season. That's like a

578
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 2: really straightforward way to improve your organization is to if

579
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Speaker 2: you're a bad team, trade a good reliever for whatever haul.

580
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Speaker 1: You can get. Mason Miller is ridiculous.

581
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Speaker 2: He is like that one of the nastiest closers stretches

582
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Speaker 2: I've ever seen in my life. And I watched twenty

583
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 2: sixteen Zach Brittain. He is ridiculous under control for a while,

584
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: there's bin injury stuff in the past. Obviously, the way

585
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: he throws, it's like, you know, you don't really expect

586
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 2: to like to last forever. But again, like just using

587
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Speaker 2: the oils as an example, a guy like Heston Kerstad

588
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 2: is blocked. He's a top twenty five prospect in baseball.

589
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 2: He's ready for the big leagues. Like, I don't even

590
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Speaker 2: know if that would be considered a reasonable for the

591
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Speaker 2: A's or not, because it's just kind of a unique

592
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Speaker 2: situation combining all these factors that aren't typically combined.

593
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Speaker 3: And what you said there is kind of the kind

594
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Speaker 3: of the issue is because the the rumors all along,

595
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Speaker 3: because I think this came up months ago with like, oh,

596
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Speaker 3: maybe they could look to move Mason Miller because they're

597
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Speaker 3: ridiculous and the apparently the asking price has been astronomical,

598
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Speaker 3: so it's like they're just kind of like floating him

599
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Speaker 3: out there. Okay, if you want to make us an

600
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Speaker 3: off where we can't refuse, like we're the A's, we'll

601
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Speaker 3: do anything. We'll get nuts. And I think the other

602
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Speaker 3: thing that you mentioned there that could be potentially interesting

603
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Speaker 3: is I think if you're well, I guess it would

604
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Speaker 3: depend like the team like the Orioles would make not

605
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Speaker 3: the like I want to, you know, break my own

606
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 3: rule and talk about the Ools on the show. But

607
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Speaker 3: a team like the Orioles could make a lot of sense,

608
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Speaker 3: and in the sense that they're set up for a

609
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Speaker 3: long competing window.

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Speaker 4: Here they have some pretty good pitching depth.

611
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Speaker 3: They could use more starting pitching depth, but like they have,

612
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Speaker 3: you know, like you said, in a fundance of young hitters.

613
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Speaker 3: And I think for a lot of teams you would

614
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 3: almost have to like wonder if you're acquiring Mason Miller,

615
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 3: like do you view him as a high end starter

616
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 3: going forward or just as a reliever. And the Oriels

617
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 3: are a team that could be like, we're happy with

618
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 3: him as like a lockdown reliever. We don't need to

619
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 3: worry about him making a starter, whereas I think other

620
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 3: teams they might want to kind of look at him

621
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Speaker 3: as like a twenty twenty four closer, but then also

622
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Speaker 3: a high end starting pitching prospect that we can stretch

623
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Speaker 3: out and turn into an ace, and that I think

624
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Speaker 3: in order to match what the A's want, it might

625
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: be what you have to view him as.

626
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an interesting wrinkle. I mean again, like a

627
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: team like the Orioles.

628
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Speaker 2: You know, next year theoretically Felix Bautista back, so maybe

629
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: then you maybe even for them, it's like a one

630
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: year closer. But I mean, like a reliever, this dominant

631
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 2: is like actually not that easy to find. Like, good

632
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 2: relievers are out there and sometimes they're hard to predict,

633
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 2: but they're not hard to find. Relievers at this level

634
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Speaker 2: are hard to find. So I'd be perfectly content whether

635
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: it's the Orioles or anybody, to just see him, just

636
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 2: let them say, like, listen, you on a good team

637
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 2: could get five hundred saves and also strike out like

638
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: two batteries an inning for your whole career, Like like

639
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 2: just say, look how dominant you are. Why mess with

640
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: a good thing? I wouldn't be opposed to that, you know,

641
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: wherever he goes. So he's the really interesting one. Let's

642
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: move on to our bylow cell high for the week.

643
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Speaker 2: I'll go first in the by Low. My favorite by

644
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: Low actually in the article and everybody should go check

645
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 2: it out. Fantasypros dot Com is Matt Olson. However, we

646
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: just talked about him last week when discussing grading your trade.

647
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Speaker 2: So rather than talk about him again, I will say

648
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: my second favorite from the article, which is Boba Schett,

649
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: And it's less about, you know, with Matt Olsen, there's

650
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: you know, reasons for optimism from some of the bad

651
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: etball data. There's not really that with Boba Schett. It's

652
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: more just like it's not like he's old. There's a

653
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 2: real track record here. He's actually even hard to heat

654
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 2: up a bit in the last you know, several days.

655
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: So I just think he's somebody that again we always

656
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: say I'm not buying I'm buying low and you're gonna

657
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,239
Speaker 2: give me a bilo opportunity and a guy who has

658
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: legitimately struggled this year, but who has the kind of

659
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 2: ceiling that we know Bobachett has.

660
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: And again it's it's early.

661
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: Enough that you can kind of look past a slow start,

662
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: even if it's not bad luck, it's actually a bad start,

663
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 2: and say this guy could easily bounce back. So, like

664
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: I said, Matt Olson is my favorite from this week's article,

665
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: but Bobachhet is my second favorite.

666
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like Bobachhet. The thing I like about him

667
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: and one of the reasons I like him as a

668
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 3: by low Is. The concerning thing last year was you know,

669
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: he was a little banged up and he wasn't running,

670
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 3: and it was like, oh no, here we go. This

671
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 3: is like the Mike drought syndrome. We have a superstar

672
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 3: who broke into the league as like a thirty thirty

673
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 3: potential kind of guy, and you know, in his breakout

674
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 3: year he went twenty nine to twenty five and everyone

675
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 3: was salvating over the potential there. It was like a

676
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: high average power speed, like this guy's little package, and

677
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 3: he kind of just gradually got worse, like not terribly worse,

678
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 3: but like the numbers just kind of went down.

679
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 4: He's been banged up a little.

680
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 3: You know, he's banged up a little bit last year,

681
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 3: Like I said, after two really you know, solid years.

682
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 3: Batting average has been there up until this year. But

683
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 3: he wasn't running in twenty twenty one, twenty five stolen basis,

684
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, thirteen last year five. So the good

685
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 3: The one thing I like to see this year is

686
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 3: that he already has four and not that four is

687
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: a lot, but he only stole five all last year

688
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 3: and he already has four, and so that is an

689
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 3: encouraging sign that you know he could be getting.

690
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 4: You know, he's not.

691
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like he's gonna ever go back to

692
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 3: that thirty thirty potential. But he could be like a

693
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 3: twenty five to fifteen guy with a really good average,

694
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,719
Speaker 3: and you know, there's just a lot to like there.

695
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 3: I'm I'm a big Bobachette fan, so I'd definitely be

696
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: buying well.

697
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: Two, who's your pick here?

698
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 3: So my pick here is actually someone I stole from Welsh.

699
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 3: The person I wrote up in the article is Aaron Savale,

700
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 3: and I wrote how I'd be going down with the

701
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 3: Aaron sa Valet ship and just babbling about needing a

702
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 3: larger sample size as we loaded the women and children

703
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 3: under the rescue boats. But we've already talked about Arnsavalley

704
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 3: on the show a little bit, so we don't need to.

705
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 4: Go back down that road.

706
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 3: So I stole jazz chism from Welsh, and it was

707
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 3: because I read his write up and I thought there

708
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 3: was an interesting reason. It wasn't necessarily about what we

709
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 3: always talk about, which is, you know, like his underlying

710
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 3: numbers are much better. This is a clear buy low

711
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 3: kind of a thing, which you know, there was a

712
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 3: little bit of that, but he he was also speculating

713
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 3: that he could be traded, which you know, is a

714
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 3: perfect kind of segue to what we just talked about.

715
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 3: You know what, who who could see their value drastically

716
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 3: increase if they land in a new environment, and he's

717
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 3: a perfect candidate for that.

718
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 4: I don't know if he will be moved, but you

719
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 4: similar to.

720
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 3: What we were talking about with the A's, you can't

721
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: rule out anything the Marlins, do, you know, Like you

722
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 3: said before, you hate waiting to see teams wait till July.

723
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 4: They made it trade two weeks ago. They're already ready

724
00:31:59,120 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 4: to roll.

725
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 3: And so I was kind of looking at his contract too,

726
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 3: because I was like, well, I feel like he's under

727
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 3: control for.

728
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 4: A little while.

729
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 3: Maybe they won't trade him. He is kind of already

730
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 3: in his arbitration or not kind of. He is already

731
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: in his arbitration seasons, which, as we know, your your

732
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 3: contract gradually goes up, you know, into the millions.

733
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 4: Every year you're in that.

734
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 3: And the Marlins are notoriously really cheap, and they don't

735
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 3: view arbitration years the way that the big market teams view,

736
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 3: as you know, affordable years. They view them as these

737
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 3: are getting more expensive, like maybe we should start to

738
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 3: sell why while we can. It's it's clear from their

739
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 3: moves they don't think they're anywhere close to a contention window.

740
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 3: So maybe he could be moved in some kind of

741
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 3: blockbuster deal. Or he goes to a really good lineup,

742
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 3: bats pretty highly in that lineup, and you know, now

743
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 3: we're talking about someone who, just as I already mentioned,

744
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 3: he's in a much better situation, probably in a better ballpark,

745
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 3: with you know, better run support or you know, better

746
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 3: like lineup support around him. I think that's a really

747
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 3: intriguing name. So I commend Welsh for that idea, and

748
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 3: I gladly steal it from him for the show.

749
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: Let's go to the cell highs Now.

750
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: I didn't like the cell high options in this week's article,

751
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: so I picked my Rather than picking my favorite cell high,

752
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: I picked my least favorite cell high from the article.

753
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: And that's Aaron Judge.

754
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: We talk a lot about the color of your stat

755
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: cast page. It's remarkably red. I mean there's a couple

756
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: you know, obviously, like strikeout rate and with rate are

757
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: kind of usually high with him, but it is it

758
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: is pretty dark red across the world. He actually while

759
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 2: we were recording this hit a home run four hundred

760
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: and sixty seven feet tonight. So we were recording this Wednesday,

761
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: by the way, everyone, not.

762
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: Thursday like usual. I mean, he has ten home runs.

763
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 2: You know. The batting average is down at two thirty six,

764
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: but he's only thirty two. It's not like he's some

765
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: old man you can't hack it anymore. His bat speed

766
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: is ninety seven percentile, so clearly he can still swing hard.

767
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: I'm maybe not ying high on Judge.

768
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: I think that's reasonable, but I'm really not actively looking

769
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: to sell on Aaron Judge really really at all.

770
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: What do you think about Judge?

771
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we kind of talked about him recently and

772
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 3: I kind of said that I am not always kind

773
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 3: of selling high, but I rarely have shares of Aaron

774
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 3: Judge because he goes so high in drafts or so

775
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 3: for so much money and auctions, and I'm always kind

776
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 3: of the older he gets, the more concerned I am

777
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 3: about injury. So I feel like baking an injury concerns

778
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 3: would have to be your reason for selling high. And

779
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 3: because but if like if you drafted him, you already

780
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 3: knew that, So why are you bothering to.

781
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 2: Sell high at this point, I don't have him in

782
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: a lot of places, to be clear, because I'm similar

783
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 2: to you in that he just typically goes higher than

784
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: I'm comfortable taking on that risk on actual draft day,

785
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 2: So I don't really have the opportunity to sell him

786
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: even if I wanted to. But if I did, again,

787
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 2: he's somebody that like, you know what you're getting when

788
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 2: you draft him, and I'm not uncomfortable enough with what

789
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 2: we've gotten that I'm looking to get out just because

790
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 2: he's having a hot streak.

791
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: Here to start, May, who's your cell high?

792
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 3: My cell high is Reese Elsen, and I'm I'm saddened

793
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 3: to hear that you didn't like my choice of a

794
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 3: cell high. I thought we were supporting each other on

795
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 3: this show, so why don't I return it to you?

796
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 3: Why do you not like Reese Elson as a cell high?

797
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 2: So is to pull the cur I wasn't gonna like

798
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: point this out once I realized this has happened. I'm

799
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 2: actually pulling from our by low sell high article options,

800
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 2: not from our featured pros multiple people options. So I

801
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: was trying to highlight our writer who does bilo sell

802
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 2: high every week, Brett USTERI and pick from his where

803
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: I did not like his sell high options, which were

804
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 2: Aaron Judge, Mitch Keller, and Jameson tie On.

805
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: So I don't like any of those.

806
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 2: I didn't actually compare to your article or choice. So

807
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you made a bad choice. Go ahead

808
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 2: and sell me this pen On resource.

809
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 3: He's just I mean, his numbers right now are incredible.

810
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 3: He has a two point zero nine ERA.

811
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: And an incredible zero to four one lost record.

812
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's that's kind of the reason for the

813
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 3: cell high because you can kind of, you know, sell

814
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 3: someone on the on the fact that, look, you know,

815
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 3: he's got these incredible numbers, the wins will come. But

816
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 3: he is on the Tigers, and he also has you know,

817
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 3: he has zero wins. He also has zero home runs allowed,

818
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 3: which is both impressive but also incredibly lucky, very scary.

819
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that just that kind of luck just isn't going

820
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 4: to continue the rest of the season.

821
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 3: Although as I mentioned in the article, he does have

822
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 3: a really you know, there are some reasons like he's

823
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 3: kind of doing that. He's he's allowing some decent hard contact,

824
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 3: but he's he's got a ridiculous fifty five percent ground

825
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 3: ball rate, So he is keeping the ball on the ground.

826
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 4: But at the same time, he's not missing a lot

827
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:58,479
Speaker 4: of bats.

828
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: And so while he's not walking in ton a guy,

829
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 3: he's letting up some hard contact no home runs, and

830
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 3: kind of keeping them all on the ground. It's it's

831
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 3: just not sustainable, you know, when when you're not missing

832
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 3: a ton of bats and you're giving up a decent

833
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 3: amount of hard contact, it doesn't really matter. Like he's

834
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 3: gonna have some blow up starts here. His expected era

835
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 3: numbers are like, aren't terrible. Like his actual RA is

836
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 3: two point zero nine. All of his other numbers are

837
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 3: between two point five four and three point seven seven,

838
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 3: which even if you fully regrets.

839
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 4: To those like, that's still not bad. And so it's

840
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 4: not like a you know, it's not like a regular

841
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 4: sell or a cell low.

842
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 3: It's a cell high. I want to sell what we

843
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 3: what we've seen in the you know, in production, for

844
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 3: something better, you know something. And this is sometimes we

845
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 3: talk about these trades and we kind of get caught

846
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 3: up in like what picture would you want? I like

847
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 3: to do the opposite trades. I like to do a

848
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 3: picture for a hitter, and I would rather. You know,

849
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 3: I think I mentioned I wrote it today, so I'm

850
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 3: trying to remember what I wrote. I think I mentioned

851
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 3: I would rather like I would, I would like to

852
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 3: swap him for almost like a buy high hitter like

853
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 3: a Joe Adele, or a by low hitter like a

854
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 3: George Springer.

855
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: I think that's fair.

856
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: You made a great case, and I'm not gonna say

857
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 2: you're wrong about that. Like I said, just drawing from

858
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: a different article. That's that's how organized we are here.

859
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: Let's kick it to my conversation with Welsh. Like I said,

860
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 2: we dive into a whole bunch of prospects and other

861
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: young players, and then you and I will come back

862
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 2: on the other side.

863
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: Back in with Chris Welsh, our guest of the week.

864
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 1: We are here for Prospect Corner.

865
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: Only one of us who's going to talk to Welsh today,

866
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 2: And of course I drew the short straw, so mayor

867
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 2: lucked out chat with the Well. No, it is a

868
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 2: delight to talk to our friend and coworker, Chris Welsh.

869
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 2: We're talking to prospects now Welsh. Last week we were

870
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 2: in the middle of recording with Kelly Kirby, who was

871
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: our guest last week when news dropped that Paul Skens

872
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 2: was officially finally getting the call, we had a sense

873
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 2: that this was probably, you know, around the horizon. Sometime

874
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 2: soon it finally did happen. So here we are a

875
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: week later. We have a start to actually look at

876
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: and react to, and I want to ask you about

877
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: that and also kind of looking ahead for the rest

878
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: of the season, just get the chance for the folks

879
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 2: to hear your reaction and kind of expectations.

880
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: But just off the bat, what did you think of

881
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 1: the debut?

882
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 2: You know, four innings, seven strikeouts, give a three earned runs,

883
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 2: a home run, a couple of walks. You know, you're

884
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 2: not gonna put too much dock in you just one start, right,

885
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 2: and it was the kid's major league debut.

886
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: But the stuff is unreal. Everybody already knows it.

887
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess let me actually backtrack again and

888
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 2: ask you initially, was this the most excited you were

889
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: for a pitching prospect since Strasburg? That was kind of

890
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: the comparison point a lot of people were giving. Is

891
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 2: that kind of how you felt too.

892
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, for a pitching prospect? Sure, I mean it's sometimes

893
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 5: shooing far between. I will tell you it probably would

894
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 5: have been like McKenzie go I loved McKenzie, a huge

895
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 5: mackenzie Gore guy. But Gore then kind of fell apart

896
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 5: before he made that major league debut. And that's a

897
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 5: tough thing. That's that's actually kind of the uniqueness about

898
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 5: Paul Skeins is everyone is always picked on top pitching prospects.

899
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 5: Because if you go back and you li ok at

900
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 5: just any list, you know, go to pipeline, you go

901
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 5: to mine, but you go to like pipeline or something

902
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 5: for MLB, and you go back and look top twenty

903
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 5: overall prospects for the last like five or six, maybe

904
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 5: eight years, and you go and look at like who

905
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 5: are the top pitching prospects, Force Whitley, Alex Reyes, McKinsey, Gore.

906
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 5: There's failure, but the failure happens before they even hit

907
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 5: the majors. The failure happens in the midst of the process.

908
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 5: Paul Skeins wasn't a round for there to be time

909
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 5: for failure. But it's such a quick successful run that

910
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 5: he made to the major So yeah, from an excitement standpoint,

911
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 5: this is the top dog.

912
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: Would you say, like maybe even more exciting than Strasburg.

913
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 2: I saw that debate going on. For me, Strasburg kind

914
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 2: of stands alone. I was also in DC when that

915
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 2: debut happened.

916
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, a little different for you.

917
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: I don't really remember.

918
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,479
Speaker 5: It's not in my brain like how I felt.

919
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 4: Obviously.

920
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 5: I think his performance was like excitement versus met expectations,

921
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 5: like if I'm doing a selfish one, Max sureser, Max sure,

922
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 5: I'm a diamondback guy. When Max Scherzer made his debut

923
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 5: and he struck out like eight in four innings, like,

924
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 5: it was really exciting, So it was kind of near there.

925
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 5: But you know, you also brought up expectations. This is

926
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 5: I mean, you know you doing the social here like

927
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 5: I did the social video for you, not not to

928
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 5: pull a piece of pa here, but I was pretty

929
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 5: damn close to right if you look at it, like

930
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 5: and then it'll pat myself on the back. But like

931
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 5: I said, I thought he was going to go four.

932
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: I thought he was in.

933
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 5: I said eight strikeouts, I said, two earned runs and

934
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 5: two walks. We're pretty close. Seven strikeouts, three earned runs,

935
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 5: two walks. And the reason I thought and the reason

936
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 5: why like this didn't surpass or underwhelm my expectations is

937
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 5: obviously because like this is what I thought he was

938
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 5: going to do. I thought he was gonna have a

939
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 5: little bit, especially in this specific matchup, which I had

940
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 5: talked about in some of the social videos, was the

941
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 5: Cubs are a team that can drive pitch counts a

942
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 5: little bit more like they were little bit in the

943
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 5: higher range. I think close to ten percent overall walk

944
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 5: rate they put up. And Skeens is a guy that

945
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 5: obviously is going to pump a fastball, but like he

946
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 5: also drives counts. I think he went over five once

947
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 5: in the minor leagues. He had gotten to seventy five

948
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 5: pitches at the tippy top. Like it's not Blake Snell.

949
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 5: But I don't know if Skeens is going to be

950
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 5: a guy that's going to have a whole lot of

951
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 5: like low pitch count innings because he you got guys

952
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 5: that can't can't even get contact on one hundred and

953
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 5: two mile an hour fastball. He topped at one to

954
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 5: one point nine in that start. So inherently you're probably

955
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 5: gonna have more often than not, you know, fifteen to

956
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 5: eighteen pitch innings. So that is gonna get you to

957
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 5: struggle a little bit from the uh, you know, getting

958
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 5: to like five and six innings. So I'm saying all

959
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 5: of this without jumping too far ahead and whatever you're

960
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 5: gonna want to talk about. This was expectationally where I

961
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 5: thought Paul Skeins was going to be. I loved the fastball.

962
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 5: The only thing I thought was weird was I think

963
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 5: it was Yasmini Grindal who was altering the pitch mix,

964
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 5: because early on, if you watch the start schemes, was

965
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 5: electric with the fastball. It was early fastballs in the

966
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 5: first inning, struck out two second and then all of

967
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 5: a sudden it started turning to like sliders and you

968
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 5: were seeing that splinker or whatever they call the splitter

969
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 5: that he was on the splitter, change up type of thing.

970
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 5: And it felt like in two strike counts they were

971
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 5: going to those instead of just barreling down one hundred

972
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 5: and two. And I thought that was a catcher decision

973
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 5: which maybe drove counts where you want to see more fastballs.

974
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 5: But I think like, regardless of the result, you should

975
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 5: be happy. This is him meeting the expectation of Paul

976
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 5: Skins is a big win. It just doesn't add up

977
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 5: to the Bonker's pre expectations people had those trades on

978
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 5: leading off that we were seeing Someone's like, I can

979
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 5: get Matt Olsen for Paul Skins. Yeah, Someone's like, would

980
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 5: you trade Paul Skins for Corbyn Burns?

981
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

982
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 5: I think the performance took away some of the oh

983
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 5: my god, Paul Skeins is a little bit human, So

984
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 5: now you can't quite make those trades. So now it's like,

985
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 5: who would you rather have rest of the season, like

986
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 5: Paul Skins or Chris Sale. I think that makes a

987
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 5: little bit more sense in people's minds.

988
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: What range are you ranking him rest of season?

989
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 5: So in the initial rank on my rest of season,

990
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 5: I had put him before the start at thirty three.

991
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 5: That's where I had set him. I'm still working on

992
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 5: the finalizing the rest of season. We're trying to do

993
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 5: it weekly, but we've had a lot of stuff going on,

994
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 5: so I'm kind of resetting it. I think he's gonna

995
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 5: sit between twenty eight and thirty. And some of that's

996
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 5: by proxy, because it's like guys are falling off the list,

997
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 5: like Chris Bassett's kind of falling apart, Like I'm finally

998
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 5: kind of getting done with Kevin Gossman. I'm kind of

999
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 5: getting done with Chris Bassett. So I think it's fair

1000
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 5: to value. It's fair to say, like Paul Skans could

1001
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 5: be a top twenty five s p rest of season.

1002
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 5: I think the disconnect is people are like, you hear

1003
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 5: top twenty five, and then you're like, oh, top twenty five,

1004
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,439
Speaker 5: could that mean he's top fifteen overall? I think he's

1005
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 5: gonna sit in that twenty five range because it's like

1006
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 5: it's gonna be tough for him to get wins and

1007
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 5: go five every single inning, But like he's an exceptional talent,

1008
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 5: so you should if you're trading him, I think you

1009
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 5: should view him as a top twenty five. So that's

1010
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 5: the value return at least I would want.

1011
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna ask how much you know, weighing

1012
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: into that is sort of what you mentioned about the

1013
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: pitch count going up. The Pirates aren't very good, so

1014
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: like they're not gonna be motivated to really push him

1015
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: beyond whatever their kind of innings limit that they've set

1016
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: for him is. So you know, that is somebody to

1017
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: keep in mind for really any top pitching prospect. But

1018
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 2: you know in this case as well, is that innings

1019
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: like you may get them but they are a question

1020
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: mark at the very least.

1021
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 5: And that's the positive could be though, is if the

1022
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 5: Pirates keep winning. That's the thing, like the formidable rotation,

1023
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 5: Jerry Jones, Paul Skains, Mitch Keller, that's your top three.

1024
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 5: There are a couple games out of the wild card.

1025
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 5: I think right now we're divisionally like they're not over

1026
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 5: five hundred. But it's like, oh, if this team just

1027
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 5: said we're just not going to keep doing pirate things

1028
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 5: and we're going to try to win win, maybe they

1029
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 5: start pulling some more pieces and that's where you get

1030
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 5: into maybe they'll cut the court a little bit on

1031
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 5: being hyper sensitive about innings pitched or you know that

1032
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 5: Jared Jones situation where he was on four days rest,

1033
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 5: so they're like he's only going five and he pitched

1034
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 5: fifty nine total pitches. That if this team is being competitive,

1035
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 5: it's the best possible scenario for a guy like Paul Skins.

1036
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 5: When they stop being competitive, then it's a cheap kind

1037
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 5: of comp and it's the sore spot for you and

1038
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 5: our old conversations about Uri Perez. But like Uri Perez

1039
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 5: last year where you know, like they sent Eury Perez

1040
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 5: down for a little bit, and then they were maintaining

1041
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 5: innings and stuff like that, like if the Pirates aren't winning,

1042
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 5: that's the worry that can happen for Paul Skins.

1043
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: You know, for the rest of the year, we're gonna

1044
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: talk about more than this Paul Skians. But I just

1045
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 2: want to mention before get off the topic, to share

1046
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 2: a sad story. I had tickets to Strasburg's debut and

1047
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 2: I didn't end up going because it was a buddy

1048
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 2: of mine in school and he was like, I have

1049
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 2: these tickets, like I got, I got too, and you're

1050
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 2: a big baseball fan. We weren't even that close to friends.

1051
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 2: He some day that I knew, but he's like, I

1052
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: know you're a big baseball fan.

1053
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: Do you want to come? I was like, holy cow,

1054
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: yes I do. He texted me that afternoon.

1055
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: After we got out of school and said, hey, my

1056
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 2: parents said I can't go because it's a school night.

1057
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: And they made me sell the tickets.

1058
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 4: And I was like, why did you give them to me?

1059
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: What are you doing?

1060
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 5: Let me buy them.

1061
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: I would have happily bought them.

1062
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 2: So he sold them and I didn't get to go,

1063
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: and then he struck out fourteen Pirates and looked amazing.

1064
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: I will never forget the fact that I wasn't at

1065
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 2: the debut of really the most tight pitching prospect that

1066
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 2: I can fad.

1067
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: That is a sad story. So that's the other.

1068
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 2: The other fun story quickly, high school teammate of mine

1069
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 2: who also went by a worm. The name is Keith Worm,

1070
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 2: and he went to uv A.

1071
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 5: I played with him at actually worm like it's just

1072
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 5: not like yours abbreviated worm. Was it worm worm?

1073
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 2: Uh?

1074
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 4: No, it was.

1075
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 2: It was also like a nickname abbreviat. But he he

1076
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 2: played at UVA and he got a hit off Strasbourg

1077
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 2: in the College World Series.

1078
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 5: So that see, that would that's one of those things

1079
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 5: like I would love to have, Like you'd love to

1080
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 5: have that, Like, oh yeah I got a hit off

1081
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 5: of like this immensely talented talk about.

1082
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: It, like back the closest thing of that for me.

1083
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1084
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1085
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 2: There was a kid in you know when I played

1086
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 2: in high school who was go He was like signed

1087
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 2: to pitch at uv A and he ended up hurting

1088
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 2: his arm so he didn't. But he was really really

1089
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 2: good and he threw a one hitter against us, and

1090
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: I didn't get the one hit, but I did work

1091
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 2: the count to full before I struck out against him.

1092
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, that was That was my.

1093
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 5: Best, but my best to as I caught a theoretical

1094
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 5: touchdown from Casey Weldon, who used to be a quarterback

1095
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 5: for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I think he played it

1096
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 5: like Florida State.

1097
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 4: Deep pass.

1098
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 5: I was able to catch it over a cornerback, which

1099
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 5: was really cool. And then I got to do a

1100
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 5: media BP session at the Diamondbacks one time and I

1101
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 5: had toughy ghost switches bat and they started launch and

1102
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 5: we had the machine and I stepped in the box

1103
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 5: and I was the only person to almost hit a homer.

1104
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 5: I hit it. I hit the So this is on

1105
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 5: Salt River Fields, the backfield, the one that the major

1106
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 5: leaguers use, And I turned on one and I hit

1107
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 5: three feet under the wall. Like so, I hit the wall,

1108
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 5: but it was three feet from going over with toughy

1109
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 5: ghost witch's bat. And it's like, had I just gotten

1110
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 5: a little bit more and hit a homer with a

1111
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 5: pro baseball player's bat on the field that they used,

1112
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 5: that would.

1113
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: Have been You could live on that the rest of

1114
00:49:58,719 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: your life.

1115
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 5: Oh, Yeah, yeah, the losers like us, so that that

1116
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 5: would have filled my my loser a bucket for a

1117
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 5: long time. Yeah, tell everybody, no big deal, but I hit.

1118
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 4: A hole round the Diamondbacks facility.

1119
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 2: Well, well we are losers, so we'll move on from

1120
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 2: reliving our glory. He can talk about actual good baseball players.

1121
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you about another picture. When we

1122
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 2: had a friend of show, Brendan Tuma, on a couple

1123
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 2: of weeks ago to talk with me and Mayor, he

1124
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 2: talked a lot about Christian Scott and how about he

1125
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 2: was a stash that he thought everybody should be hanging

1126
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 2: on to.

1127
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: And now he's come up. He looks good.

1128
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 2: What do you make of the first couple of starts

1129
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 2: of his career? And you know, I don't want to

1130
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: call him like a like, Like he is breaking out

1131
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 2: to a degree this year. He's moved up a lot

1132
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 2: on a lot of the prospect rankings. He wasn't like

1133
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 2: he was unheard of before, but like he looks really

1134
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 2: really good in a way that he maybe didn't before.

1135
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: So what do you make of Scott?

1136
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 2: Both in terms of just evaluating him as a young pitcher,

1137
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 2: but also what we've seen so far at the big

1138
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 2: league level.

1139
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was never like I was never big on

1140
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 5: Christian Scott last year and even into this year because

1141
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,919
Speaker 5: I just hadn't seen enough statistically like things look good.

1142
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 5: But it's one of those cases, and it's it's it's

1143
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 5: truly in like evaluating prospects, like when you get to

1144
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 5: see them live and you really or you know, you

1145
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 5: really lock into multiple games if you're watching even on

1146
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 5: like you know, MiLB dot TV or something, and you

1147
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 5: can lock into a player, you just pick up so

1148
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 5: much more. And I was even like a little bit like, oh,

1149
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 5: let's wait and see. And then I got to catch

1150
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 5: some of it early on and this year, and I

1151
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 5: jumped on it. And he had been on that Prospects

1152
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 5: to Stash article for some time. His first start. I

1153
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 5: was so impressed, and I've said this multiple times, just

1154
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 5: with his poise. I thought, cool cucumber. He was able

1155
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 5: to not get phased. I loved his ability to command.

1156
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,439
Speaker 5: And I know I've said this a couple of times,

1157
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 5: but like there there are a lot of things that

1158
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 5: reminded me of Brandon Fought, Like what I wanted from

1159
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 5: Brandon Fought when he came up because thought had to

1160
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 5: adjust his pitch type to be like a sweeper, fastball

1161
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 5: sinker type of guy, and I and the command was

1162
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 5: a little bit spotty. Christian Scott had that right away,

1163
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 5: and that was the thing that stood out to me

1164
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 5: so much. He was the designation slider sweeper. You know

1165
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 5: he'll use those, but the split finger can kind of

1166
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 5: work as a sinker. And he was throwing split fingers.

1167
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 5: He was throwing fastballs up on corners, he was throwing

1168
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 5: the sweeper across the zone. I thought his stuff with

1169
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,439
Speaker 5: command looked tippy top. And then in the next start

1170
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 5: got to hit up a little bit more. But you're

1171
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 5: seeing more of it. I mean, over two starts he's

1172
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 5: gone six. He's struck out at least six in both starts.

1173
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 5: Walks haven't been a big issue. Twenty eight percent k

1174
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 5: percentage to only six percent walk rate. That already is

1175
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 5: better than where Skeins is at. And I think Christian

1176
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 5: Scott isn't going to have the upside of the strikeouts,

1177
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 5: but if he continues to have a low walk rate,

1178
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 5: this is gonna work really well for him. Guys are

1179
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 5: not barreling him up because of the command with those pitches.

1180
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 5: I am very, very interested in Scott and he's been

1181
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 5: a pick up for weeks weeks weeks before he got

1182
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 5: called up. But what's so enticing now is I think

1183
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 5: he's locked to a S. I think it would take like, oh,

1184
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 5: we want to maintain this guy's innings and not ruin him,

1185
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 5: blah blah blah for them to send him down like

1186
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 5: they just sent Budo down. They've got spots in the rotation,

1187
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 5: and I think he's going to kind of continue rolling it.

1188
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 5: I think he's going to be one of those unherlded

1189
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 5: bets at the end of the year. Like I wouldn't

1190
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 5: be surprised in NL voting if like Christian Scott had

1191
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 5: like you know, top five Rookie of the Year votes

1192
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 5: or something like that when it's all said and done.

1193
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 5: But yeah, I'm very much into Christian Scott.

1194
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about Jackson Holliday because the

1195
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 2: last time you were on, we spent like half an

1196
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 2: hour just like praising him, and you know, obviously I

1197
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 2: leave that up getting.

1198
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: Giddy and over the moon.

1199
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it did not age entirely well, although I mean

1200
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 2: it's not like we said he was going to come

1201
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 2: out and be an MVP. From day one, Like he's

1202
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 2: the twenty year old kid who moved really faster than minors,

1203
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 2: and there's always an adjustment, you know. I've seen a

1204
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: lot of people mention that, you know, the gap between

1205
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 2: Triple A and the majors has basically never been bigger

1206
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 2: than it is now in terms of the talent gap.

1207
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: Like it's a hard transition to make.

1208
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: So I want to ask you essentially what I just

1209
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: which is how much are we panicking both for this

1210
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 2: year and long term? I'm assuming the answer long term

1211
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 2: is not at all. I mean that's literally only how

1212
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 2: I feel yet, like literally zero. As a reminder for everybody,

1213
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 2: the stat line two for thirty four in thirty six

1214
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: played appearances, he scored five runs. He struck out in

1215
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 2: like half of his app his played appearances, I believe

1216
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 2: it was literally half eighteen of his thirty six played appearances.

1217
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: Just so it's really overmatched.

1218
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 2: Looked fine in the field, good bass runner, And I

1219
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 2: actually kind of think he was starting to come around

1220
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 2: a little in his last couple of games. Not like

1221
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 2: getting hot, but I thought he looked a little more comfortable,

1222
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 2: just anecdotally, like watching every Orioles game, I thought he

1223
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 2: was looking a little more settled in at the plate,

1224
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 2: even if it wasn't leading to results yet. But they

1225
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,280
Speaker 2: sent him back down. So long term, you and iron

1226
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 2: lockstep he's still, you know, arguably the best prospect of baseball.

1227
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 2: Not worried at all for this season if he gets

1228
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 2: called back up. When he gets called back up, how

1229
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 2: will you be reacting to that in any kind of

1230
00:54:59,160 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 2: non keeper form.

1231
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I guess you could look at it like

1232
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 5: I will be a glutton for punishment in that respect,

1233
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 5: because here's one thing I do believe is when he

1234
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 5: is back up, he will have answered. There's a lot

1235
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 5: of public pressure early on when he didn't make the

1236
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 5: opening day roster and they're like he needs to work

1237
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 5: on hitting lefties, and first at bat in the minors

1238
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 5: he hits off a left like it felt like a

1239
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 5: whole bunch of nonsense that they sold us. Now it

1240
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 5: definitely is. It's more of that like, oh yeah, we're

1241
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 5: not in management of baseball, and they knew what they

1242
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 5: were talking about. So I'm leading this to say the

1243
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 5: public pressure is gone. He failed at the major league level,

1244
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 5: they sent him back down, and they're going to have

1245
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 5: clear cut things. Part of it might just be get

1246
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 5: your head straight and then it's going to be you know,

1247
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 5: this is what didn't work at the major league level.

1248
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 5: Here's what we need to work on. So what I'm

1249
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 5: saying is when he comes up, when that happens, I

1250
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 5: feel confident that they will feel confident and they're going

1251
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 5: to have him up to get it bats. He won't

1252
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 5: be there to sit. So when he comes back up,

1253
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 5: I'm going to feel more calm, confident, and I will

1254
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 5: pick him up in every spot because long term, everything

1255
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 5: I said before still stands. I think he's a high contact,

1256
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 5: low strikeout guy, even though that's been his bugaboo. The

1257
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 5: guy gets on base, has always had an over four

1258
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 5: hundred OVP. I thought he was going to run. He

1259
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 5: just didn't get on base to even run, so that,

1260
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 5: you know, it's really tough to say. I just don't

1261
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,760
Speaker 5: think there's anything to pull from the debut. Sometimes that happens,

1262
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 5: sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes there's gleaning ideas of the player.

1263
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 5: I don't think there's anything to pull from it. It

1264
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 5: may not be right, you know, because maybe he's gonna

1265
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 5: come back, and you know, I assume when he comes back,

1266
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 5: he's going to get the same treatment as far as

1267
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 5: how pitchers were attacking him, and that is going to

1268
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,280
Speaker 5: be the thing he'll be working on in the minor,

1269
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 5: so that will be very telling. But I don't have

1270
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 5: any stash. I'm not trying to stash right now. Stashing

1271
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 5: prospects is an overall net failure for this year, and

1272
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 5: even though I think we're going to talk about guy

1273
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 5: that's going to be coming up very soon, stashing in

1274
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 5: general has been a net failure. That you can do

1275
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 5: things in better spots. Anyways, I'm fine with with not

1276
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 5: doing that, and I'm not stashing a lot of these

1277
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 5: players because I think it's a super unknown. And I

1278
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,439
Speaker 5: also don't think the next big oriole to be called

1279
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 5: up is Jackson Holliday. I think I think it has

1280
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 5: to be Kobe Mayo. Kobe Mayo's destroyed, so that makes

1281
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 5: it even tougher for him unless there's a major injury

1282
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 5: or two to the middle infield and it's like, well,

1283
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 5: we clearly have to move him. But the problem is

1284
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 5: is Jordan Westburg can go over to second, Mayo can

1285
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 5: play third. So that's I think Holiday is going to

1286
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 5: have a longer road to get back. But I do

1287
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 5: believe when he is back up, that's going to be

1288
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 5: the time to trust because he'll have answered those questions

1289
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 5: that the Orioles were looking for.

1290
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: You read my mind on the on the stash question.

1291
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: That's interesting.

1292
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 2: So the thing with Mayo that I've been I think

1293
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 2: he's like ready, Like, I think he's a I love

1294
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 2: him as a prospect obviously, like both as an Orioles

1295
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 2: fan and for fantasy, like I would love to see

1296
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 2: him the big leagues. I've been kind of thinking, given

1297
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 2: his youth, give that there was some like swing and

1298
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 2: miss with the strikeouts.

1299
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 5: And there's still at Crimes. May turned over and he

1300
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 5: was having some strikeout issues.

1301
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, still is.

1302
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 2: I've been wondering if Dave were kind of of the

1303
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 2: mindset of maybe waiting for him to be like a

1304
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 2: September call up and keeping that eligibility to compete for

1305
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year next year and try and get

1306
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 2: them a pick in the future, because he seems like

1307
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 2: the most obvious candidate. You know, a guy like Heston

1308
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 2: Kerstad is like twenty five years old already, and I

1309
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 2: know he just got sent back down Curestad, but like,

1310
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 2: you're not saving a twenty five year old for another

1311
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 2: year just to try and get Rookie of the Year, right.

1312
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 2: Connor Norby is I think a really good prospect, but

1313
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 2: probably blocked enough that he's not gonna win rooky of

1314
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 2: the Year next year, like Mayo's kind of the and

1315
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 2: Holiday being as good as he is, expecting him to

1316
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 2: lose that eligibility this year. So Mayo is kind of

1317
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 2: the one where I thought maybe if they were trying

1318
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 2: to play that system. Also the fact that they don't

1319
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 2: really need the infielder. I mean they do now that

1320
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 2: Holiday's down and they're starting Mateo or Arius every day.

1321
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 2: But for all those reasons, I thought that Mayo might

1322
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 2: be one that they did didn't aggressively promote. But I

1323
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 2: mean he's he's leading the organization in home runs, then

1324
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 2: the ones he hits are bombs, and I just I

1325
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 2: follow all the Orioles, you know, minor league accounts, and

1326
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 2: I'm watching these videos every day while the Orioles score

1327
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 2: one run, not that that happens often, they're a good

1328
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,959
Speaker 2: team at the big league level, but the oorial score

1329
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 2: run run. Oh look, Mayo went three for five with

1330
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 2: a double and a home run and eight RBI, and

1331
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 2: it just seems like every day that's happening. I do

1332
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 2: really like Mayo, but like I'm worried that they won't

1333
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 2: call him up, you know, that soon. But that's interesting

1334
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 2: that you kind of highlight him as the next big

1335
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 2: call up. I do want to ask about h you know,

1336
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 2: kind of the other stashes you alluded to, if not holiday,

1337
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 2: because it's you know what we've already seen and he's

1338
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 2: a guy will pick up but don't really want to

1339
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 2: hold on to. Who are the guys the one or

1340
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 2: two names at the top of the stash rankings right now?

1341
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know, we'll do a segment on leading

1342
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 5: off and I'll have my article, my prospects to stash article.

1343
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 5: Last week, what I did was I lowered the number

1344
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 5: of guys that I was writing up that are of

1345
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 5: quote the idea of stashing, by the way, uses air

1346
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 5: quotes right now, because I know there's some people like, oh,

1347
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 5: you don't stash any and it's like, well, this year's

1348
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 5: kind of been right, But the idea of stashing is like,

1349
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 5: these are the guys that are going to be close

1350
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 5: to get some production and then i'd have a watch list.

1351
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 5: So this past week I lowered the number of guys

1352
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 5: that you're actually worth quote unquote stashing. And I raised

1353
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 5: the watch list players because it's like, I don't know,

1354
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 5: I don't know when these guys could come up, but

1355
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 5: you should. You should have these guys in mind. The

1356
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 5: reason I'm telling you this is like there's been a

1357
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 5: mount rushmore of players that have sat at the tippy

1358
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 5: top of like worth stashing, and at this point it's

1359
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 5: really only two players. And unfortunately the article is probably

1360
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 5: going to be the same in that respect, though other

1361
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 5: names will start coming up, and number one is Junior Caminaro.

1362
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 5: But the Junior Camenaro side got more interesting today. I

1363
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 5: think it was today or yesterday as we're doing this,

1364
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 5: is he played second base for the first time. He

1365
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 5: finally got off because he's played entire he was a

1366
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:57,919
Speaker 5: shortstop at some point and then he's played third base

1367
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 5: all year. He started second base, and last week just

1368
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 5: for fun, because I absolutely nailed the Paul Skins call up,

1369
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 5: I decided I'm gonna do another prediction, and my prediction

1370
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 5: for cam and Aro because there's this negative article that

1371
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 5: came out about the Rays and holding him down and

1372
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 5: they're not looking to bring him up anytime soon. I

1373
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 5: said May twenty fourth, and I did that because I

1374
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 5: think that gives enough time for him to have consistent

1375
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 5: at bats if they did want to do a positional thing.

1376
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 5: That gives enough time. And really, there was a day

1377
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 5: off in between this time period. There's a day off

1378
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 5: on the twenty third, So I'm just gonna stick there.

1379
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 5: There's my update, and I feel better about it because

1380
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 5: he played second base and start at Brandon lau Is.

1381
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,439
Speaker 5: I think he's hurt right now. Maybe this timeline gets

1382
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 5: pushed up and it's even sooner, but his bat has

1383
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 5: just been live, and I know unfortunately all the guys

1384
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 5: that get called up, they've been hitting over three hundred.

1385
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 5: That's where he is the positives. It's been a low

1386
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 5: strikeout rate, first time since Dominican Summer League. He has

1387
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 5: a double digi walk rate at tripa A. He's hitting

1388
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 5: over three hundred. He's got a three almost four or

1389
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 5: five slash. He's at seven homers in twenty four games.

1390
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 5: He has opposite field power for days. He's got an

1391
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 5: incredible sense of the plate, which I've always loved, and

1392
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 5: I don't think he's going to strike out a bunch.

1393
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 5: I do think that pure raw power is going to

1394
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 5: play well for him, good hard hit numbers, you know,

1395
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 5: good hard hit and barreling. That's the type of guy

1396
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 5: that he is. And now that he's playing second base,

1397
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 5: they're finding some spots for him because Isak Prates has

1398
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 5: been great. He really has been a really good player.

1399
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 5: So the only option at this point had been with

1400
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 5: then you d h Camonaro or parades. But maybe they're

1401
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 5: now looking at it and saying, screw it, we can

1402
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 5: get Cameron Aro in that lineup because Caballero has played

1403
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 5: well at shortstop. You've got a med Rosario who's playing around,

1404
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 5: and they're gonna look. My idea would be for Caminaro

1405
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 5: to be the everyday second basement and then he also

1406
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:53,439
Speaker 5: has flexibility.

1407
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 4: To play third.

1408
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 5: That's what they value. They value players that can play

1409
01:02:56,560 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 5: around the field. Cow Manzardo told me year and a

1410
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 5: half ago they wanted him to pick up a third

1411
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 5: base glove in spring training because they wanted to have

1412
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 5: that flexibility, and then they traded him. But cam and

1413
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 5: Aro doing this, I think that is the most telling

1414
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 5: sign of this raised team. So I'm gonna kind of

1415
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 5: stick to it. I think we're in a ten to

1416
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 5: two week window where Cameron Aro could come up and

1417
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 5: the new position helps, and he is, you know, one

1418
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 5: of the more prolific bats out there. So that is like,

1419
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 5: that's the number one guy.

1420
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 2: And I know the other guy that we talked about

1421
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 2: in the pre show who I am really excited to

1422
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 2: see in the big leagues is James Wood. You have

1423
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 2: Cameron now ahead of Wood in terms of your STASH rankings.

1424
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, and Stash in Dynasty, they're both next to each other.

1425
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 5: James Wood is immensely interesting, especially from this list because

1426
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 5: he's the power speed guy. I didn't even realize this

1427
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 5: until I just look now. He has a lower K

1428
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 5: percentage than Cameron Aro in the minors so far, and

1429
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 5: he has like double the games, which is very impressive

1430
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 5: because last year in Double A James Wood had a

1431
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 5: thirty three percent K percentage. I watched a bunch when

1432
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 5: he was a padre and he has some bad swing

1433
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 5: and miss. He has really worked and changed on that.

1434
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 5: He has a almost career high walk percentage at fifteen percent,

1435
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 5: an under twenty percent K percentage, seven homers, nine stolen bases,

1436
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 5: a three four five slash. He's hitting three point fifty

1437
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 5: seven in Triple A right now. This is literally, I mean,

1438
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 5: the Nationals are putting out Nixon, Zell and Jacob Young,

1439
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 5: and I don't want to be dismissive of this entire

1440
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 5: lineup or anything like that. You know, Victor Roebliss is

1441
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 5: out there in right field right now. Any other team

1442
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 5: they're gonna go and they're gonna put out James Wood.

1443
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 5: But this team is I would not be shocked. I

1444
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 5: suppose if they held him back to September to try

1445
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 5: to get extra pit compensation, but at the same time

1446
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 5: going back to Kobe Mayo or James Wood, Like, I

1447
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 5: don't know what you what is the growth of keeping

1448
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 5: a guy like James Wood who obviously has this Like

1449
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 5: you tell me what are the things that need to

1450
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 5: be fixed? And this is kind of rhetorical. I'm asking

1451
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 5: is like, Okay, what do you guys want him to

1452
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:03,919
Speaker 5: work on? Because he's hitting three fifty seven, he's running,

1453
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 5: he's stealing, he's not striking out, he's walking more than

1454
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 5: he's ever done. He's doing everything you could do. Is

1455
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 5: it advantageous to keep him down here? Is it advantageous

1456
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 5: for Mayo to stay down with the team, maybe to

1457
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 5: work on strikeouts? But what do you get if you

1458
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 5: keep them there for four months? What do you get

1459
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 5: with James? Would you keep them there for four months?

1460
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 2: Outside of it, I've been a huge proponent of in

1461
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 2: talking to my friends about all this, like kind of

1462
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 2: log in with the Orioles about like just like trade

1463
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 2: somebody to make it happen, because even if you take

1464
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 2: a short term hit, like while they're adjusting, because at

1465
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 2: a certain point, I'm a big believer in if you

1466
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 2: have solved a level and are stuck there, it's going

1467
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 2: to hinder your development, Like it's gonna actually be by

1468
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 2: not continuing to be like, oh I need to grow

1469
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 2: into the next step.

1470
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:49,919
Speaker 1: Now I've already solved this. I just think it's bad

1471
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 1: for you.

1472
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 2: A team like the Orioles, I get it a little

1473
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 2: more because they're like, we don't want to trade Ryan

1474
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 2: or Herd because he's getting the crap out of the ball,

1475
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 2: and like we want to win the games.

1476
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: The Nationals the only.

1477
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 2: Thought process with them, and I know they've got off

1478
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 2: to a better start than you know, kind of expected

1479
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 2: or whatever, but like the only thought for them should

1480
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 2: be what is best for James. Would So if you

1481
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 2: think James Wood has solved the minors, he needs to

1482
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 2: be on the next plane to DC. Like there's just

1483
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 2: like to me, that's the only the only calculus is

1484
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 2: has he solved this level?

1485
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 1: Yes, time to call him up.

1486
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 5: And like I'd love to hear that, Like, so you

1487
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 5: tell me not again, this is rhetorical to their management,

1488
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 5: tell me what the thing that he hasn't solved? So

1489
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 5: if he has solved it and he has got this

1490
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 5: level down, do you like, is it important that you

1491
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 5: see sixty games of consistent production or do you think

1492
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 5: maybe at the point where a guy is hitting three

1493
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 5: point fifty seven, there are around two hundred plate appearances,

1494
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 5: is that maybe enough to give them more of a

1495
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 5: challenge and to be fair, like, you know, maybe we're

1496
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 5: being hyper aggressive about it, but when they're putting out

1497
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 5: like the Merrill Vargas and Victor Robliss and Jacob Young,

1498
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 5: and it's like, yeah, James Wood would instantly be the

1499
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 5: best the medical player on this team. And then guess

1500
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 5: what I think from a developmental standpoint, it is beneficial

1501
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 5: for that guy to get the major league time and

1502
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 5: then if the warts are there, you go and fix them.

1503
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 5: It doesn't not everybody has to be Joe Adell where

1504
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 5: it's three years of disastrous you threw them into the

1505
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 5: fire and it didn't work, and it's like, well, no,

1506
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 5: be very hands on, but why do not the amount

1507
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 5: Creig Council. I didn't get to say this earlier, Cret

1508
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 5: Council years ago when talking about Hestin and Kira or

1509
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 5: Kesten Heira, I said Heston kers yeah, yeah, he was

1510
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 5: having a rough time. And Crek Council was like, listen

1511
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 5: the jump because you said this earlier. The jump from

1512
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 5: Triple A to the majors is as big of a

1513
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 5: gap as it's ever been in baseball. And the more

1514
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 5: that we have, I mean, we have new pitch introductions,

1515
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 5: the sweepers are taking over this year. It's the year

1516
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 5: of the splitter, high fastballs. There are that the hands

1517
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 5: on nists that happens in the lower levels I think

1518
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 5: would kind of astonish people because I think we have

1519
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 5: an idea of like what base and every team is.

1520
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 5: There's a group of guys with tablets that are like, Okay,

1521
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 5: you did this and this, and it's not the case

1522
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 5: the amount of in person work and attention that happens

1523
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 5: at the major league level that doesn't happen at minor

1524
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 5: league levels would throw people off. So why not take

1525
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 5: a guy who's doing everything right, get them to the majors.

1526
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 5: Let the organization, the top people in the organization analytically

1527
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 5: break down everything, especially if they're struggling, and then you

1528
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 5: take that down. Same thing I would have said about

1529
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 5: Jackson Holiday. Some teams just think let a guy go,

1530
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 5: and maybe the Nationals would do that. But yeah, this

1531
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 5: is all the like, this is just the criminal stuff.

1532
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 5: We look at Camanaro and James Wood and we see

1533
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 5: how successful they are and we want to see them up.

1534
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 5: Executives have a pretty good argument right now, and they

1535
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 5: can go, Okay, that's cool. Well look at Jackson Holiday,

1536
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 5: look at com Manzardo, look at Jordan Beck. You know,

1537
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 5: list goes on and on. They can kind of keep

1538
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 5: doing that. But if you're going to get into the

1539
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 5: stash game, those of the two that I think James

1540
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 5: Wood and Camnaro are within two or three weeks. There's

1541
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 5: a host of other players that are worth the common conversation,

1542
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 5: but I do think it's circumstantial. It's like if if

1543
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 5: there was an injury in the Orioles rotation. Kde Povich

1544
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 5: is one of the first players I would think that

1545
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 5: would come up to the majors. Adam Maser just got

1546
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 5: called up the Triple A with the Padres. He's had

1547
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 5: a phenomenal year. If there was a big injury in

1548
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 5: the rotation for the Padres, that would be a guy.

1549
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 5: So I think there's a lot of situational prospect issues.

1550
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:28,640
Speaker 5: There's only so many that force their way on, and

1551
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 5: I think Camonaro and James Wood are the players that

1552
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 5: are forcing their way on.

1553
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's the same stylistically or that he

1554
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 2: is as good as what I'm about to say the

1555
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 2: name I'm about to throw out, But when I think

1556
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 2: of James would I think of Ellie da la Cruz

1557
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 2: in the sense that they're just way too big for

1558
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 2: the positions they play, and yet they're still.

1559
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 1: Like some of the best prospects. Somebody asked me, like

1560
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 1: our speed.

1561
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 5: And like a year ago when I was on CBS,

1562
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 5: someone asked, They're like, who is the next Ellie de

1563
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 5: la Cruz And I said, all right, I'll give you

1564
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 5: the name. And it's not just because of a one

1565
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,679
Speaker 5: hundred percent of the physical presence, but you're talking about

1566
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 5: a player that puts up crazy big evs. James Wood

1567
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 5: is a guy that can hit when one eighteen that

1568
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 5: runs way bigger than their physical style. It is James Wood,

1569
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 5: and James Wood does have a physical similarity to Ellie

1570
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 5: day La Cruz, though he's bigger. But James Wood is

1571
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 5: the type of guy that, like I said, one eighteen

1572
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 5: Evs could hit thirty homers, could steal thirty bases like that,

1573
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 5: is a guy that could come onto the scene and

1574
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 5: go nuts. The difference between, ironically, between those two guys

1575
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 5: was at one point I really would have said, like, oh, yeah,

1576
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,600
Speaker 5: James is actually just like Ellie. But James has so

1577
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 5: vastly improved his back to ball skills and his strikeout

1578
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 5: percentage and making good outs and putting you know, barrels

1579
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 5: on the ball that it's like James Wood might have

1580
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 5: a higher ceiling at that point. I don't think he's

1581
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 5: gonna steal like Ellie. Like Ellie has proven. You know,

1582
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 5: the best thing I've done this year was that lay

1583
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 5: day La Cruz to lead the league in stolen bases.

1584
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:03,600
Speaker 1: And he's doing that.

1585
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's doing that in the droves right now. But

1586
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 5: like James Wood is the type of guy the in

1587
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 5: the future, the comp might be maybe more similar to

1588
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 5: like an Aaron Judge. You know, that might be where

1589
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 5: it goes at some point. But yeah, yeah, the main

1590
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 5: crux here is, like you want to talk about dynamic

1591
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 5: skill sets, James Wood has that feel of a guy

1592
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 5: that could lead the league in homers and stolen bases

1593
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 5: in like a month.

1594
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 4: He's crazy.

1595
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely quickly.

1596
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 2: You know, I've been watching a lot of clips lately

1597
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 2: from one of my favorite movies the last decade, which

1598
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 2: is The Martian. And speaking of The Martian, Jason Dominguez

1599
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 2: is rehabbing, so we're kind of up on it on time,

1600
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 2: But just some quick thoughts from you on you know

1601
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:47,640
Speaker 2: what it means, what we'll see from him when he

1602
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 2: gets back to the big league level and is healthy again.

1603
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, if he's sitting out there, I'm picking him up.

1604
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 5: He's still one of my favorite from a dynasty perspective.

1605
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,600
Speaker 5: This is probably the last opportunities for buys if they

1606
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 5: even exist, because he just started his rehab assignment and

1607
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 5: that's a huge thing. He's going to get back into

1608
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 5: playing time. He got a hit in his first game.

1609
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 5: He's an insane talent that I think people have kind

1610
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 5: of forgot about. So you know, in Dynasty, I think

1611
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:15,600
Speaker 5: he's a great buy that it still might be a

1612
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 5: little bit cheaper in redraft to be sitting out there.

1613
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 5: I guess I don't assume him is like the prospects

1614
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 5: to stash because he's made his major league debut. But

1615
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 5: if he is out there, i'd stash him because I

1616
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 5: think you're probably two weeks ish away, just however long

1617
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 5: they feel the rehab assignment has to go. And I

1618
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 5: don't think it's you're gonna throw him back into Triple A.

1619
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 5: I think you're gonna throw him right back into the

1620
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 5: major So there's a little bit of a glut there

1621
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 5: with some of the guys that are up. But maybe

1622
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 5: they you know, maybe they cut bait with a with

1623
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 5: a Trent Grisham, and you know, Dimingez can get back

1624
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 5: in the outfield. Maybe he's dhing a little bit. You

1625
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 5: keep stanting at the DH like Jason, Dimingez is going

1626
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 5: to get back in that lineup. So if he is

1627
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 5: out there, you should get him. And I have pretty

1628
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 5: high expectations because I was very impressed with the major

1629
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 5: league debut that he had hit two fifty eight four

1630
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 5: homers in eight games. I think he's gonna kind of

1631
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 5: pick right back up.

1632
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 1: Welsh.

1633
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 2: It's always a pleasure to talk to you. Thanks so

1634
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 2: much for coming on. You know, I appreciate you making

1635
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 2: the time and giving us all this knowledge. Everybody stick around.

1636
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 2: I'll be right back with Mayor on the other side.

1637
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 2: All right, Mayor, let's wrap up here with our weekend excitement.

1638
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 1: I will go first.

1639
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 2: Wasn't a super long list, so I just highlighted kind

1640
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 2: of the thing that stood out to me most, and

1641
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 2: that is Paul skeins against the Cubs again, you know,

1642
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 2: before innings.

1643
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 1: Seven strikeouts in that first start.

1644
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 2: Obviously, like we talked about this, everybody listening just heard

1645
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 2: me talk about this with Welsh, you know, most typed

1646
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 2: pitching debut since Steven Strasburg. I'm still salty about having

1647
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 2: to give away the tickets for Strasburg's debut, which is

1648
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 2: a story everybody heard during.

1649
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 1: The interview with Welsh.

1650
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 2: But again, just really really exciting, you know, pitching prospect

1651
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 2: here finally got the call up, and he's going up

1652
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 2: against the same team he faced in the first game out.

1653
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 2: I want to see if he does better. I want

1654
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 2: to see if he goes into the into the you know,

1655
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 2: deeper into the game. Not that he was awful in

1656
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 2: that first start, but you know it was your first

1657
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 2: start ever. You know, it's you never know how a

1658
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 2: guy's going to react to that. But I'm just really

1659
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 2: excited to see what he does over the weekend.

1660
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:21,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, Paul Skins is the obvious one. We

1661
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 3: kind of talked before the show and I was like,

1662
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 3: I don't really know what I wanted to see. Paul

1663
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 3: Skins is a really good one. That's the obvious one.

1664
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 3: Matt Perrault the host of our Daily Juice podcast over

1665
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 3: on the Betting Pro Feed, which I encourage everyone to

1666
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 3: check out. He does a daily really quick hitting you know,

1667
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 3: here's what I'm betting for the day. It's a it's

1668
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 3: a really enjoyable fifteen minute, you know, ten to fifteen

1669
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 3: minute podcasts every morning.

1670
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 4: Matt Parol is actually going to be at that game.

1671
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 3: He's he's flying from Vegas to Chicago to go see

1672
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 3: Paul Skins. So excited to hear how he how he

1673
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 3: thinks he does. We kind of default to pitching matchups

1674
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 3: or kind of team matchups. I'm like, what we're excited

1675
01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 3: for this weekend and we're kind of talking. Before the show,

1676
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 3: I was kind of just you know, you were you

1677
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 3: were talking about whatever you were talking about. It wasn't listening,

1678
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 3: but I was looking at the weekend slate and I

1679
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 3: was just kind of like, ah, I don't really know

1680
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 3: what I'm looking forward to. Like, I'm definitely looking forward

1681
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 3: to watching baseball, but I mean I want to see

1682
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 3: Jack Flaherty's at Gallen, both because I think that's a

1683
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 3: good pitching matchup and because I have a lot of

1684
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 3: those guys in my leagues, so that's a matchup. I'm

1685
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 3: looking forward to Freddie Perlta justin Berlander. I don't have

1686
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 3: any Verlander, but I have a bunch of Peralta and

1687
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 3: that's a good pitching matchup. And I'm I just keep

1688
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:32,719
Speaker 3: waiting for the Astros to turn back into the Astros

1689
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 3: and like we said, are they going to sell if

1690
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 3: they keep plummeting? You know, not that I thought I

1691
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 3: want them to do better. I'm ready to not see

1692
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 3: the Houston and the Alcs this year. Enough is enough

1693
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 3: on that front. But other than that, I feel like

1694
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:49,600
Speaker 3: there's a lot of like okay pitching matches, but not

1695
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 3: a lot of kind of premier ones, So Paul Skenes

1696
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 3: is kind of the obvious one. And then there's just

1697
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 3: a lot of like, oh, that's interesting, you know, that's

1698
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 3: that's okay, Like I don't I don't feel like unless

1699
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 3: I'm missing.

1700
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 1: You don't need to fake it or sell us soldness.

1701
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 2: It's not the most exciting from what the type of

1702
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 2: stuff you and I usually highlight this segment. I think

1703
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 2: we've named enough of them.

1704
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 1: We don't.

1705
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 2: We don't need to to, you know, lose the trust

1706
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 2: of our audience by just pretending we care about.

1707
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 4: You know, some of the lower I'm not pretending. I'm

1708
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 4: saying I'm trying to. I'm trying to look is.

1709
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 6: Not the same as like we can excitement, what are

1710
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:30,600
Speaker 6: we really looking forward? I was also looking like are

1711
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 6: there any good like team matchups this weekend? Yeah, I

1712
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 6: was kind of and I haven't really stood out to

1713
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 6: me white sox Yankees doesn't really do it.

1714
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 2: For me, shockingly. All right, let's go to our two

1715
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 2: start picture competition. Last week, my picture Emerson Hancock got

1716
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 2: sent down after his first start.

1717
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 1: I knew I was kind of going out on a limb.

1718
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:53,640
Speaker 2: Anyway, it was like not a week I love that

1719
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 2: was let me just take a shot here on Hancock.

1720
01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 2: For whatever reason crossed my mind last week, Uh did

1721
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 2: not pan out because well, part of it was I

1722
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 2: was excited about to start against the A's and didn't

1723
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 2: even get it. Your pitcher this week is even worse

1724
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 2: as you mentioned Renel Blaco, or is it worse? Is

1725
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 2: getting sent down better or worse than your guy getting

1726
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 2: suspended during the week you picked him as a two

1727
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 2: star pitcher. I genuinely don't know the answer to that,

1728
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 2: but as you are already highlighting the outline because of

1729
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 2: that fact, A, you know you got an auto win

1730
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 2: last week, I would say, and B I'm gonna get

1731
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,640
Speaker 2: an auto win this week. So I believe we are

1732
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 2: actually tied through six weeks including this week, that we're

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01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 2: currently in at three wins a piece.

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01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 1: So it's an exciting race so far. Who you got

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01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 1: for this week?

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01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the time breaker there was not just

1737
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 3: that your guy got sent down and then my guy

1738
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 3: got suspended, which it's kind of on one hand, it's

1739
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:53,760
Speaker 3: kind of fun because normally we have to kind of

1740
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 3: wait an extra week to talk about who won. Now

1741
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 3: we're two weeks ahead, we already know into the future,

1742
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 3: who's won not only this week but next week or

1743
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 3: not like last week but this week kind of a situation.

1744
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 3: I think the tiebreaker there is that my guy wasn't

1745
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,640
Speaker 3: just suspended. He was suspended for cheating. He didn't like

1746
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 3: get into you didn't like throw at someone and get

1747
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 3: like thrown out of the game and get a five

1748
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:18,440
Speaker 3: game suspension. He got caught cheating, allegedly cheating and was suspended.

1749
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 3: So I feel like that tiebreaker makes it worse than

1750
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 3: getting sent down, although they are both pretty bad. My

1751
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 3: pitcher for this week is Kyle Bradish.

1752
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 4: Did you say, is it.

1753
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 1: Bratish or British bradish?

1754
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 4: Bradish?

1755
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 2: Like?

1756
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 3: I don't know why I doubted myself there, but I

1757
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 3: made sure for one of the first times ever, I

1758
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 3: got to the sheet before you. And similar to the

1759
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 3: pitching matchups and the team matchups for this weekend, I

1760
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 3: didn't love what we were seeing in terms of two

1761
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 3: start pitchers next week, and so I was like, you know,

1762
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 3: not only does he have two good matchups in the

1763
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 3: one of the worst teams we've ever seen in the

1764
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 3: White Sox and the struggling Mighty League Cardinals, but also

1765
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 3: I got to grab an Oils pitcher before you did,

1766
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 3: and so I was happy to take Kyle Bradish.

1767
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 2: Uh. Yeah, you know what, that's okay. I'm not beating

1768
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 2: myself up over it. He didn't do that well today

1769
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 2: eighty five pitches and four innings. The O's did get

1770
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 2: the window extend there.

1771
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 4: He's warming up for me next week, that's why.

1772
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Suell for me, I'm going with Chris sale

1773
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 2: Has By the way, do you know Chris Sales thirty five?

1774
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 2: Like I know, he's been around a while, but I

1775
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 2: didn't realize he he'd hit the mid thirties yet or

1776
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 2: like that level of it. I would have guessed like

1777
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 2: thirty two or thirty three. But he's He's pitched really

1778
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:37,759
Speaker 2: well in his last three starts. His last three starts,

1779
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 2: he's gone a combined eighteen innings one earned run. What

1780
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 2: is this twenty eight strikeouts? I didn't actually I had

1781
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 2: to do math on the fly, just one walk. So

1782
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 2: he's been really good since since the calendar flip to May,

1783
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 2: and he was good even prior to that too.

1784
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 1: He's obviously had a really stellar season so far, so

1785
01:19:58,160 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take him.

1786
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 2: His matchups a are against the Padres and at the Pirates.

1787
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 2: So we'll see who breaks the tie here seven weeks

1788
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 2: into the season and takes a lead in our contest.

1789
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 2: Any other thoughts here before we wrap up? Nope, all right,

1790
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 2: we'll get out of there on that. Thank you everybody

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01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 2: for tuning in. Thank you again to Welsh for joining

1792
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 2: me earlier. I hope everybody enjoyed that segment, and I

1793
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 2: hope everybody enjoyed the show. For Mayor and Welsh, I'm

1794
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:23,679
Speaker 2: Ryan Warmley.

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01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 1: We'll see you again next week.

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01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:28,520
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01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:32,360
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