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Speaker 2: Pulled in by Wilson for a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Touchdown, Tyler Murray.

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Speaker 2: That defender is in multiple pieces. Oh that was nasty

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Speaker 2: right there.

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Speaker 3: Rights slam the ground by fooda baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 3: He came flying into the backfield.

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Speaker 2: I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, the key to podcasting, and let's face it, I

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Speaker 4: mean I should know as the podcast officer around here CPO,

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Speaker 4: not to be confused with CP three Chris Paul Er

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Speaker 4: C three PO from Star Wars, Paul KELVC Darren Urban

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Speaker 4: and we'll intro our brand new guest here in a moment.

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say the key to podcasting is to

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Speaker 4: have already made excuse if it's stinks. And right now,

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Speaker 4: these headphones brand new headphones, fine headphones, but they're different

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Speaker 4: and they're throwing me a little bit. So it's a

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Speaker 4: new sound in my head. And I know what you're saying, Darren,

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Speaker 4: if only had a new brain in your head.

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Speaker 2: But I don't.

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Speaker 4: I have a new sound, so I don't know what

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking.

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Speaker 2: Paul.

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Speaker 4: If I'm worse than usual, I've already made excuse. So

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Speaker 4: once again, the key to podcasting, as we say, welcome

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Speaker 4: into this free agency edition of Cardinals Underground, brought to

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Speaker 4: you by Pacific Office Automation. We know it's a free

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Speaker 4: agency edition because there was just a transaction and I'm

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Speaker 4: trying to tweet it out and I can't because I'm

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Speaker 4: giving an intro to this podcast and now kicking it

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Speaker 4: over to Zach Gershman to take it from here for

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Speaker 4: a moment so I can continue with this award winning tweet.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Paul, I will say, though I'm glad

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Speaker 2: that I was.

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Speaker 5: He say it louder, please gladly.

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Speaker 2: I am very happy to know that I am not

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Speaker 2: the excuse as to why this could potentially go hayire,

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Speaker 2: so thank you. That's where I thought we were going

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Speaker 2: with this. Yeah, I was a little nervous. The heart

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Speaker 2: was beating, But now we're all right. Is the tweet posted?

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Speaker 4: Well, it is multiple choice. I mean, just say, there's

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Speaker 4: one excuse, would you know, really be cutting you short

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Speaker 4: of what you know? Could could be the blame game

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Speaker 4: here a little bit later.

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Speaker 5: Short were you? Was that a shorts not here?

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Speaker 2: Look at the end of the day, though, I'm glad

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Speaker 2: that if even if we are in multiple reasons, multiple choices,

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Speaker 2: I'm glad I'm still a choice. That's great.

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Speaker 4: You know, Darren says, don't don't don't tell them what

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Speaker 4: to think. Don't don't put those words into my mouth.

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Speaker 4: I'm not making any short jokes about anyone at any point.

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Speaker 4: So let the record reflect that Danny and everyone else we.

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Speaker 5: Do miss Danny. She left all week because of her birthday,

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Speaker 5: and I mean, that's wow, that's pretty that's that's something

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Speaker 5: to do. I suppose if you're, you know, right in

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Speaker 5: the middle of free agency, birthday, free agency.

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Speaker 4: Priorities, would you take it personal? Zach if I said

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Speaker 4: that it's a really eighteen to thirty four year old thing,

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Speaker 4: to do, take a whole week for your birthday. I'm

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Speaker 4: writing that demographic so I wouldn't complain. But Darren, does

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Speaker 4: that mean I get my birthday week taken off?

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Speaker 5: Wow? That permission put your vacation time.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's during like week three or week four.

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Speaker 5: Whatever you do. I'm gonna move on. And by the way,

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Speaker 5: we have to the birthday. There is somebody who is

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Speaker 5: more in our age range that we work with, Paul,

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Speaker 5: that exclaims a birthday month, not.

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Speaker 4: Just a week a month month celebration.

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Speaker 5: It wouldn't take long for you to like narrow down

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Speaker 2: But yes, okay, Craiglu.

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Speaker 5: No, not craiglu.

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Speaker 4: Come on, Craig's a grinder. You know he's a grinder.

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Speaker 5: You wouldn't know Craig would ever have a birthday if

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Speaker 5: unless you like forced them, water boarded them or something.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so here we go.

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Speaker 4: I just look, you can take a look at the

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Speaker 4: Cardinals free agent class, and uh, you know, when it

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Speaker 4: comes to splash signings, I think the Cardinals can legitimately

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Speaker 4: there a bigger name and free agency than Josh Sweat.

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Speaker 4: I put it to you, Darren Urban.

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Speaker 5: Are you trying to troll the fans?

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Speaker 2: Though not at all. I'm not in the mail bag.

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Speaker 5: I understand that. But I think there's there's absolutely, with

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Speaker 5: all due respect to your point, I do. I think

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Speaker 5: it was a splash signing. Absolutely was Josh Sweat reportedly

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Speaker 5: coming to the Cardinals feeling pretty good about that, coming

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Speaker 5: to Fruition when it sometime. But I think there's a

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Speaker 5: good section of the Cardinals fans that had a different

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Speaker 5: splash signing in mind that it didn't quite occur. I'm

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Speaker 5: sure you were watching that in real time, were you not?

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Speaker 2: Paul Well bet a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Maybe this is where I kick it to Zach. Zach,

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Speaker 4: would you like to add to that at all?

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Speaker 2: Look, I will say, Milton Williams, Well, he was probably

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Speaker 2: the splash signing that I think Darren's alluding to.

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Speaker 5: It was probably the one.

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Speaker 2: All right. I just wanted to make sure I didn't

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Speaker 2: want to put words in your mouth. We've already gotten

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Speaker 2: that that point.

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Speaker 5: That's what we do here on this podcast.

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Speaker 2: All right Now, I'm gonna put words in Darren's mouth

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Speaker 2: and that they are confirmed that is the case. Look,

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Speaker 2: mill Williams is a player that a lot of fans

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Speaker 2: were hoping that the Cardinals were gonna sign, but they

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Speaker 2: were still in that sweepstakes. And the money that New

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Speaker 2: England reportedly is sending his direction, it's a tough that.

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Speaker 2: That's a tough deal to beat out.

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Speaker 4: Okay, honestly, I did not see a lot of this

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Speaker 4: supposed alleged blowback. Oh really, no, I did not, So

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Speaker 4: let me get this straight.

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Speaker 2: That's why we have to refras Twitter a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Paul's a busy man. I can understand this.

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Speaker 4: What's a bigger need or want than edge rusher on

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Speaker 4: this roster. You drafted Darius Robinson last year. He was

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Speaker 4: never one hundred percent. You signed Justin Jones, Bowlall Nichols.

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Speaker 4: This draft is deep with three e's deep in defensive tackles.

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Speaker 4: Why would you value Milton Williams over Josh Sweat.

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Speaker 2: I'm not necessarily saying I would value him more. I

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Speaker 2: believe that Josh Sweat is the Slash signing of free agency,

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Speaker 2: and not just because the Cardinals were able to ink

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Speaker 2: But I think people wanted that young guy over there

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Speaker 2: in the interior defensive line. I mean, look, it always

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Speaker 2: starts in the interior and then it goes to the outside.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's probably the reason why. But the

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Speaker 2: draft class is loaded, and a lot of experts that

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Speaker 2: when you guys were in Indie Darren were talking about

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Speaker 2: how deep and how loaded this draft class is.

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Speaker 5: Look, I wouldn't be surprised, and Paul, I'm sure, I

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Speaker 5: don't know if I don't know this for a fact,

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Speaker 5: but I wouldn't be shocked if the Cardinals were trying

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Speaker 5: to get both of them and they got one and

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Speaker 5: they just didn't get the other one. I guess it's possible.

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Speaker 5: You said, we're going to spend on one, we'll see

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Speaker 5: which one filters out. But they had the wherewithal to

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Speaker 5: be able to get two of them if that's what

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Speaker 5: they wanted. Now, I don't know that. I don't know

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Speaker 5: that for a fact, And I understand what you're saying,

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Speaker 5: and I think you can go either way with this.

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Speaker 5: And you know, you talk about bringing back Nichols, you

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Speaker 5: talk about bringing back Justin Jones, you talk about having

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Speaker 5: Darius Robinson who just talked about how last year was

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Speaker 5: basically his red shirt ear and he was never healthy.

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Speaker 5: They just agree to terms with L. J. Collier literally

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Speaker 5: as we were starting this thing.

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Speaker 4: That's the tweet I'm trying to send out there.

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Speaker 2: You go anyway.

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Speaker 5: So, I mean, I think, I think the what everybody remembers.

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Speaker 5: And it's funny we say this because Josh, we had

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Speaker 5: an excellent Super Bowl, but what everybody remembers from that

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl is that that defensive line absolutely obliterating the

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Speaker 5: other team. And really, if you look where the league

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Speaker 5: is going right now and listening to Jonathan gannon amania

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Speaker 5: support talk, trench trench trench, trench trench. I think interior

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Speaker 5: offensive and interior defensive line is something that the fans

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Speaker 5: are very cognizant of right now.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not minimizing the value of a three technique.

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Speaker 4: There's nothing more destructive to an offense. I mean, just

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Speaker 4: look at the two games against Seattle and Big Cat

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Speaker 4: Leonard Williams and what he did. So I get it,

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Speaker 4: but to pay to reset the market virtually at that

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Speaker 4: position for that player, when didn't A lot of the

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Speaker 4: analytics say that he barely got double team because of

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Speaker 4: Jaalen Carter and Jordan Davis. So guess what if you're

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Speaker 4: that guy at that salary and you're getting plugged in,

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Speaker 4: you will be double teamed with frequency. So there's the

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Speaker 4: unproven element of that as well.

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Speaker 2: I just.

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Speaker 4: I'm not quite buying that. And to me, Josh wet

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Speaker 4: is well bought forty one million guaranteed reportedly. So all right,

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Speaker 4: I mean in today's past rush world, where Miles Garrett

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Speaker 4: is getting forty a year and what Max Crosby is

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Speaker 4: getting paid now by the Raiders, that's what the Dallas

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Speaker 4: Cowboys are going to be on our powerpole of Inneptitude

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Speaker 4: that we'll have a little bit later.

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Speaker 5: Very excited for that. Paul Zach doesn't really know about that.

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Speaker 2: I watch Underground. I put it on my big screen TV.

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Speaker 2: I get to watch your beautiful faces in the luxury

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Speaker 2: of my home. I mean, this is fantastic.

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Speaker 5: And he mingles with the people talking to people who

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Speaker 5: apparently also listen to Underground, Right.

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Speaker 2: Do when we are not going to talk about my

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Speaker 2: American Airlines flight experience on this on this podcast, but

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Speaker 2: just say just say you know, I know you're watching,

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Speaker 2: and I'm appreciative of you once again.

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Speaker 5: You shouldn't Paul be looking into the camera saying that.

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Speaker 2: Paul, would you do the would you do me the

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Speaker 2: honor of So I'm saying to my guess that it

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Speaker 2: is fun to stay in the middle.

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Speaker 4: Six No, I will say forget that. What I'm going

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Speaker 4: to say is, as his defense lawyer, right now, Zach

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Speaker 4: was wronged. Anytime you're not allowed the seat rest the

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Speaker 4: arm rest, you've been wronged, and that that is a take.

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Speaker 4: You should pay more or less for your seat based

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Speaker 4: on whether you have the arm rest or not. So

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Speaker 4: we're gonna have the power pool of an aptitude a

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Speaker 4: little bit later. And because Zach mingles with the people,

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Speaker 4: according to Darren, you're gonna give us getting cultured a

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Speaker 4: little bit later. You're pincheditating for Danny a little bit later.

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Speaker 2: Okay, she gave me the honor of doing it, so

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Speaker 2: we'll be ready.

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Speaker 5: She's off celebrating her birthday.

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Speaker 4: I see winning behavior is coming our way as well.

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Speaker 4: But let's just get into the free agency right now.

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Speaker 4: As you know, first off, the whole legal tampering thing, right,

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Speaker 4: I always just find amusing just the x absolute terminology

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Speaker 2: Josh Sweat is a baller. He's a really good run defender.

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Speaker 2: For both of these players, there are mostly rotational pieces

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Speaker 5: That's true.

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Speaker 4: There you go, now, he started the first five games

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Speaker 5: They have spent a ton, Yes they have.

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Speaker 5: I know you just want to bring up but if

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Speaker 4: You know what that brings us podcast officer. Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: if you're familiar with this, Zach, but for about ten

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Speaker 2: And it's because of this quote we've won the off season.

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Speaker 2: I think he was.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's fond of doing the whole is this

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Speaker 4: But we hand out the off season hardware every year

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Speaker 5: They lost Sam Darnold and Daniel Jones. Who's playing quarterback again?

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Speaker 4: That would be JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, we'll see unless.

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Speaker 4: As of this recording, Aaron Rodgers has not signed with

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Speaker 4: the Vikings.

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Speaker 5: I did like the Will Fries signing, although it's for

443
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Speaker 5: a lot of money, And I did see that Seattle

444
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Speaker 5: really wanted him, but they wanted him to come in

445
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Speaker 5: and get his leg checked because he had a serious injury.

446
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Speaker 5: And he was like, no, I can't come in and

447
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Speaker 5: get checked before Wednesday, and I want to have it

448
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Speaker 5: decided by then. So basically they were out because they

449
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Speaker 5: weren't going to spend that kind of money on a

450
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Speaker 5: guy they weren't sure about.

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Speaker 4: Tough deal for Seattle. That janky offensive line in Seattle.

452
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Speaker 4: They just can't get it right, the Seahawks with that

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Speaker 4: offensive line. That's a tough break.

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Speaker 2: What were you thinking, Paul when you saw the notification

455
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Speaker 2: that Gino Smith got traded to Vegas? Not surprised?

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Speaker 5: Hey wait, wait, are we doing the NFC West now?

457
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Speaker 5: Is that what we're doing?

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Speaker 2: Do you want to do that?

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Speaker 5: We can jump right into that, because there is a

460
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Speaker 5: hell a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, who's gonna it? Sounds like you want

462
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Speaker 4: to take the steering wheel on this, Darin, go ahead, Well, I.

463
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Speaker 5: Mean we can talk about DeVante Adams going to the

464
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Speaker 5: Rams as they cut Cooper Cup. Now we've talked about

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Speaker 5: cutting Cooper Cup, but DeVante Adams not bad. Seattle loses

466
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Speaker 5: Geno Smith, they trade them away. They lose Dk Metcalf,

467
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Speaker 5: trade them away. They get rid of Tyler Lockett. Donald

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Speaker 5: Sam Darnold is the Seahawks quarterback. The forty nine Ers

469
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Speaker 5: don't have anybody anymore, especially on their defense. Shouldn't say

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Speaker 5: they don't have anybody, but they've lost a lot of defense.

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Speaker 4: You know what, The Niners could be the seventh Purge

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Speaker 4: movie at this point. Oh, yeah, they really could.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let me tell you something, Zach. I know you

474
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Speaker 5: watched this all the time. But when Paul starts putting

475
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Speaker 5: people in the Purge segment, I mean that's high praise.

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Speaker 2: And not in the list of in neptitude either. No.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's got to be significant, and the Niners blood

478
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Speaker 4: letting is significant right now. In fact, can I make a.

479
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Speaker 5: They couldn't even get Joey Bows to come over to

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Speaker 5: play with Nick.

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Speaker 4: Can I make a soft off comment right now? The Niners'

482
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Speaker 4: success over the last decade, the roster building, the talent acquisition,

483
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Speaker 4: how much of that was Adam Peters. Okay, I'm Jed Yorke,

484
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Speaker 4: the owner. I'm wondering, Wow, did I keep the wrong

485
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Speaker 4: decision maker.

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Speaker 5: Here's here's what I'm gonna say to that. I don't

487
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Speaker 5: this for the forty nine ers. Team have ever had

488
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Speaker 5: a nice run. And what's happening to the forty nine

489
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Speaker 5: Ers is exactly what happens to teams. They get really

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Speaker 5: good and then you got to make some decisions. The

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Speaker 5: difference between the forty nine Ers and let's say the

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Speaker 5: Chiefs is that what is rock Perdy was about to

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Speaker 5: get paid and one of the reasons they're having to

494
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Speaker 5: make all these moves is he close enough to Patrick

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Speaker 5: Mahomes to keep you afloat. I don't the Chiefs are

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Speaker 5: going through the same stuff. They get. They lose, God,

497
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Speaker 5: they've losing guys every year, but they they've made it work.

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Speaker 5: I don't think this is a John Lynch thing. I

499
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Speaker 5: think this is the This is the pain of getting good,

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Speaker 5: having a lot of good players, and then eventually you

501
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Speaker 5: can't pay them all.

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Speaker 4: And it's true, and nothing erases inefficiencies and weaknesses like

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Speaker 4: an elite quarterback. And obviously Mahomes has done that for

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Speaker 4: a long time. But the Niners, I mean, Aaron Banks

505
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Speaker 4: got paid big money by Green Bay. He left, so

506
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Speaker 4: there's a big hole in the middle of their offensive line.

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Speaker 4: Scharvarius Ward. That dude is a dog and a really

508
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Speaker 4: good tackler and an excellent cover guy. He's gone to

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Speaker 4: the Colts two years ago they had an all Pro

510
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Speaker 4: safety taalanoah HAFANNGA and he went to the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: Dray Greenlaw.

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Speaker 4: You talk about a dog who was the pulse. So

513
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Speaker 4: that if there's one thing we've learned, Fred Warner cannot

514
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Speaker 4: cover Trey McBride. The only dude that really could was

515
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Speaker 4: Dre Greenlaw that I've seen the last two three years.

516
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Speaker 4: The only guy could, only linebacker who could keep up

517
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Speaker 4: with Trey McBride was Dre Greenlaw. And then you know

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Speaker 4: they lost a bunch of other guys as well. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: the last place forty nine ers are going to start

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Speaker 4: this year in last place. Put it that way, it's

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Speaker 4: a credit to I think you obviously have your core

522
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Speaker 4: pieces still they are. They are putting all their chips

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Speaker 4: in on keeping guys like George Kittle, like Fred Warner,

524
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Speaker 4: like Brock Purdy because they want their their key people

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Speaker 4: to be happy. I was surprised to see Kyle Huschuk, though,

526
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Speaker 4: get released by the team. He had to take that

527
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Speaker 4: pay cut, he had to take a haircut last year.

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Speaker 4: He wasn't happy about that. So yeah, maybe he's just

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Speaker 4: his maybe his role or his age. He was getting

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Speaker 4: downsized and phased out in that offense.

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Speaker 5: I just I think it's fascinating. I think it's fascinating

532
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Speaker 5: that excuse me trading Gino Smith for Sam Donald, which

533
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Speaker 5: to me, it's essentially the same player. In fact, you

534
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Speaker 5: could make the argument Gino's better. But if Gino was

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Speaker 5: looking for ten million more dollars a year and they

536
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Speaker 5: knew Sam Donald would take ten million the deal that

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Speaker 5: they were willing to give Gino Smith, I guess that

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Speaker 5: makes sense. And then with the Rams, I like what

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Speaker 5: the Rams are doing.

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Speaker 4: But by the way, can I just make a comment

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Speaker 4: on the Seahawks.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's the podcast, Paul, you can make lots of comments.

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Speaker 4: You were the CP, Well this might be highly Yeah,

544
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Speaker 4: the O stands for opinionated. I know this, but that

545
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Speaker 4: that janky offensive line by Seattle was saved by Geno

546
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Speaker 4: Smith's athleticism and mobility and escapability. You're putting Sam Darnel

547
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Speaker 4: behind that old line.

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Speaker 5: Well, you never know.

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Speaker 4: I'm just good luck with that. But yeah, the Rams.

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Speaker 4: The only thing I don't figure out on the RAMS

551
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Speaker 4: is they gave two to at well ten million guaranteed.

552
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Speaker 5: It's one of what happens when you draft the hell

553
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Speaker 5: out of things and your defense is so young that

554
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Speaker 5: nobody's making any money.

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Speaker 2: I guess.

556
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Speaker 5: I mean because it's a one year deal.

557
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Speaker 4: Four touchdowns in four years and you got ten million dollars.

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Speaker 5: So it's off the books. Next year. They have a

559
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Speaker 5: speed receiver, and people looking for speed receivers in free

560
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 5: agency there weren't that many, and they got paid a

561
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Speaker 5: lot more than ten million dollars.

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Speaker 4: The one bit of Cardinals fan blowback that I've seen

563
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Speaker 4: was you paid Zay Jones four plus million, looking you

564
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Speaker 4: couldn't pay Roy Lopez four plus million. Well, it's two

565
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Speaker 4: totally different pay scales for the position.

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Speaker 5: And I would also say that we saw. What we're

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Speaker 5: seeing is what the agent wants out there. My guess

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Speaker 5: is in both cases that's the maximum those guys could

569
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Speaker 5: have gotten. Gotcha, and let's find out what the actual

570
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Speaker 5: money is going to be. Even the Milton Williams stuff

571
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Speaker 5: that came out. Originally, I saw something I think at

572
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Speaker 5: one point they said it was over one hundred one

573
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Speaker 5: hundred million or whatever it was, and I saw the

574
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Speaker 5: breakdown and it's basically, in real, real terms, it's basically

575
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Speaker 5: a two year, fifty million dollar contract. And Milton Williams

576
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Speaker 5: has got like over eight million dollars in per game

577
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Speaker 5: roster bonuses. So if you get a hamstring and missed

578
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Speaker 5: three games, that's like three hundred thousand dollars this year. Interesting,

579
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Speaker 5: So the real numbers aren't always what they see.

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Speaker 4: What is Seattle doing a receiver? By the way, they

581
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Speaker 4: got a second round pick for DK metcalfeber Cup, they

582
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Speaker 4: got a third round pick for Gino Smith, and then

583
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Speaker 4: Tyler Lockett was shown the door. He gone second all

584
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Speaker 4: time leading receiver. By the way, I'm not on board

585
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Speaker 4: with people want Tyler Lockett. He definitely showed his age

586
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Speaker 4: last year. I thought he didn't have the ability in.

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Speaker 5: Separate cups done the same thing.

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Speaker 4: If you're Coop Cup, though, free piece of advice, go

589
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Speaker 4: to a team with natural grass got I mean the

590
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Speaker 4: Cardinals are one of fourteen teams with natural grass fields.

591
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Speaker 4: Cooper Cup get off the turf. Just you're too fragile

592
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Speaker 4: Gila at this point.

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Speaker 5: Speaking of that, And again, I know I keep I

594
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Speaker 5: keep side winding into this every week now, but again,

595
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Speaker 5: watching some old late nineteen seventies NFL games, Darren Steelers,

596
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Speaker 5: Darren needs a side hustle, Steelers at Oilers segment, Steelers

597
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Speaker 5: at Oilers and the Astrodome and like the Steelers defense

598
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Speaker 5: and a really good Oilers defense in Earl Campbell. And

599
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Speaker 5: literally I'm watching like every play these guys are taking

600
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Speaker 5: like ten years to get up because they're falling then

601
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Speaker 5: that old school astro turf and I'm just like, oh

602
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Speaker 5: my god, I'm like cringing looking at them getting tackled

603
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Speaker 5: onto that horrible asphalt type turf.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, Zach, can I get a comment on Darren watching

605
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Speaker 4: old NFL games from the late seventies on YouTube?

606
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Speaker 2: What's funny because we were actually talking about games earlier today,

607
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Speaker 2: because we were talking about kickers' ability to pay for

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Speaker 2: longer than fifty plus yards and how back then a

609
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Speaker 2: twenty five yard kick seemed like it was really challenging.

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Speaker 5: They were talking about the Steelers kicker and he was

611
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Speaker 5: coming out for a forty two yard field goal and

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Speaker 5: the guy the announcers like they could have taken the

613
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Speaker 5: Oilers could have taken that ten yard penalty. But Darella

614
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Speaker 5: is only three for eight from forty to forty nine

615
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Speaker 5: yards this year.

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Speaker 4: So you know what, this seems like a good segue

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Speaker 4: to me to kick to Zach because you know Darren

618
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Speaker 4: right now he needs a dosa culture in somehow, some way.

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Speaker 4: So why don't you say, Zach will pinch hit Danny

620
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Speaker 4: will segue to here getting cultured with Danny it is

621
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Speaker 4: not just directed at punk. Am I the default uncultured

622
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Speaker 4: philistine around here?

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Speaker 5: Yes, he got me very excited. Now I am on

624
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Speaker 5: social media and consume more pop culture than both.

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Speaker 2: Of you combined. I think I'm being unfairly profiled. But

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00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: go ahead, what let's go?

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Speaker 3: All right?

628
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Speaker 5: What do you got here?

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Speaker 2: We go?

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Speaker 4: I thought you were gonna like LFG, you know, like

631
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Speaker 4: the kids say something like that. No, you weren't going

632
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Speaker 4: to go that round.

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Speaker 2: I just to say that, let's go, okay the f

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Speaker 2: that's for no. I will say this though, have we

635
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: had enough beeps in this in this Saren's department? That's

636
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Speaker 2: that was a mental note for me. I'm like this

637
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: guy really had a couple of beeps throughout the throughout underground.

638
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Speaker 2: So let's make sure that we leave it to just

639
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Speaker 2: those few. Look, I got permission from Danny to do

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Speaker 2: this segment. I needed the Queen's blessing. No you so

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Speaker 2: go ahead. Well I will say I still got the

642
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: Queen's blessing, okay, and I will start talking about this

643
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: about things that collabsolutely bless you guys. I know you

644
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Speaker 2: guys are big fans of the Big Baller, fans of

645
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Speaker 2: the Big Baller family, the bar Blamello. Yeah, you guys

646
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Speaker 2: are still Are they still around?

647
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Speaker 5: Boy?

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Speaker 2: Are they still around? I mean, this is the biggest

649
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Speaker 2: week for the entire family, Paul, what's that face for you? Why?

650
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Speaker 2: Why is this the biggest week?

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Speaker 5: The Hornets aren't making the playoffs, The Bulls aren't making

652
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Speaker 5: the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Who said about the playoffs? This is just a matter

654
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Speaker 2: of that all three of them are actually gonna all

655
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Speaker 2: be in action this weekend. So this weekend we have

656
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: Lonzo and his Bulls are playing the Rockets, LaMelo and

657
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: the Hornets are playing in La against the Clippers. Leangelo

658
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: Ball is performing at Rolling Loud. Jello is headlining his

659
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: first festival he's gonna be performing on Saturday. He's got

660
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: three like big time songs, and I think there are

661
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: only three songs that he has. But one of them

662
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 2: was like the rallying cry for the Detroit Lions before

663
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: they got smacked against the Washington Commanders in the playoffs.

664
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Speaker 2: That song is called Tweaker. And then you have here,

665
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Speaker 2: what's the other song I haven't written down? Can you please?

666
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 2: Is song number two? And while on order, song number three?

667
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: So Paula brothers are watching all the time.

668
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Speaker 4: Okay, So I'm glad you clarify because I'm like, wait

669
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Speaker 4: a minute, Leangelo Ball somehow made it into the league.

670
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Speaker 4: So okay, No, he's in the music industry.

671
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Speaker 2: Okay.

672
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 4: Is he an actual performer slash artist.

673
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Speaker 2: Or is he a DJ? No, he's a performer slash artist,

674
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Speaker 2: he rang.

675
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 5: I'm surprised you don't know. I I actually knew this,

676
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 5: keV No, But I about Langelobald having one song and

677
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 5: having apparently turning one song into now he's Drake or something.

678
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: Right, Well, we've already had that conversation enough. Danny has

679
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: controlled that that element.

680
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 4: Of the old man's name is lebar Ball, right, yes, okay,

681
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 4: And didn't he have the Big ball Er brand, Big

682
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 4: ball Baby.

683
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Speaker 5: Didn't he have his foot amputated?

684
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Speaker 4: He did have his foot alplated, and he did a

685
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 4: value getting culture He did a video actually saying that

686
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 4: he could still beat MJ with just one foot. Okay,

687
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 4: here's here's where I'm going with this, and this this

688
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 4: could be an entry, laid entry into the powerpole of incompetence,

689
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 4: wasn't He offered an ungodly amount at one point, at

690
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 4: the height of his popularity for the Big Baller brand,

691
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 4: and he declined to sell. And now it's sort of

692
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 4: like a dot com stock which you don't remember some

693
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 4: twenty five years ago.

694
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 5: You should have.

695
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 4: Sold high, because now it's worth nothing.

696
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Speaker 2: I don't want to tell Paul I don't remember because

697
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Speaker 2: I wasn't twenty five. Okay, here, all right, the next

698
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: as we all have to go there with the guy

699
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 2: who bought Webvan. Go ahead, Zach. The MLB is currently

700
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 2: under fire right now. They try getting to the fashion

701
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: game with New Era, and they did a hat style

702
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: where the background of the hat is the team's name

703
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: written out in script, and then they put the primary

704
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: logo up front in front of it. And let's just

705
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: say some of these hats don't make sense. Like for

706
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks, they have Arizona written out in the back

707
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 2: and then the A in the front, so it says

708
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Speaker 2: Ariana on it. The Detroit Tigers they have the D

709
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: and then Detroit in the background, so it goes, do

710
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Speaker 2: you do it? The Phillies are Pie Pie are five Pies?

711
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: And Boston's the Bowbans Texas.

712
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Speaker 5: Wait, bobon is he still in the league.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but boban Marianovich what a guy?

714
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: And the Texas their hat if you translated to Spanish,

716
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: it translates to something that can't be discussed over the airwaves.

717
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: So New Era has pulled that hat down. So this

718
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: wasn't like a typo. This was by design design. They

719
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: overlapped this.

720
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Speaker 4: They thought they were going to be ultra innovative, you know,

721
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 4: reinvent the whole hat genre.

722
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Speaker 5: And if this is why you need surf on these

723
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Speaker 5: kinds of place, surf needs to be able to stay right.

724
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Speaker 2: And our boss and the very last one, because I

725
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 2: want to tie it back into football a little bit,

726
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: it's free agency. Related to Houston Texans. We talked about

727
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: the winners of the offseason. They might actually be the

728
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 2: biggest winner of the off season, the Rex Ryan Award,

729
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 2: essentially because they signed Braxton Barrios, a wide receiver from

730
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Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins, to a one year, two million dollar deal.

731
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Speaker 2: And I see you're shaking your head. Why is at

732
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: the case he's coming off an injury because his girlfriend,

733
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 2: Alex Earl was the Taylor Swift Effect before Taylor Swift

734
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: came into the NFL, over eleven million followers on social media.

735
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Speaker 2: She is somebody that a lot of girls look up to.

736
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Speaker 5: Never heard of her.

737
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Speaker 2: Well, that's what getting culture is for deren That's true.

738
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Speaker 2: And I will tell you this. While it's interesting that

739
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: he ends up in Houston because out of all the teams,

740
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: Alex Earl has made multiple videos with her boyfriend Braxton

741
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: dating back to last year where he does a yeehaw

742
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: and everybody has been saying you need to belong in Texas. Well,

743
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 2: now he's in Houston, Texan. And on top of that,

744
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 2: who's his quarterback, Paul? And he goes to the Houston

745
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: Texans ce J Stroud. Guess who was on stage to

746
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: announce c J. Stroud as the Offensive Rookie of the Year.

747
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 2: Alex Lenn Michael Parsons, Michael Parsons and Alex Earl.

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Speaker 5: Oh, Alex Earl, Sorry, I knew it was Alex something.

749
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Speaker 4: So is there anything nefarious about that signing? Meaning would

750
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Speaker 4: the team say, you know what, it's only two million

751
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 4: dollars for the player, but we really covet his girlfriend

752
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 4: or significant other, and she's gonna add a lot more

753
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Speaker 4: than two million dollars in overall value to our brand.

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Speaker 2: You might be saying it, and I might be agreeing

755
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 2: with it. I'm not sure if they are gonna openly

756
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 2: admit that. But you know what, Paul, you've been cultured, Darren,

757
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 2: you've also been cold. Congratulations.

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Speaker 5: That was a solid job. Zach, thank you. We may

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Speaker 5: or may not have you back on the podcast.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 4: I thought I fared a little better than Darren for

762
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 4: once on the whole getting cultured.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe, just maybe a little bit.

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Speaker 5: I've never heard of Alex Lynne Cardinal, Alex Laney, Alex.

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Speaker 2: She spells it a l i x. By the way,

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Speaker 2: what are your.

767
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 5: Power rankings for the NFC West right now? Paul?

768
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Speaker 2: Oh, that's easy, that's easy.

769
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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 4: You gotta go Rams Rams one Niners in last so

771
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 4: now the only discussion is two and three, and do not.

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Speaker 5: Put the Cardinals above the Seahawks right now.

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Speaker 4: Well, okay, see, until a week ago, I did have

774
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 4: the Seahawks ahead of the Cardinals for one reason and

775
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 4: one reason only, because Gino Smith was six and zero

776
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 4: against the Cardinals'.

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Speaker 5: Fair But now here goes by the way I thought

778
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Speaker 5: of you, because I think you said that at some point,

779
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 5: and Geno Gino Smith got traded and some of the

780
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 5: Seahawks fans were thrilled because his record against the forty

781
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 5: nine ers is like two and five, so like, finally

782
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 5: we're getting rid of the guy who can't beat the

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Speaker 5: forty nine ers. And I'm like, okay, well, let's see

784
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 5: what happens when the Cardinals start beating your career.

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00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing.

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00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 4: Okay, So the Seahawks have no receivers other than JSN

787
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,959
Speaker 4: and he's really good, and I understand why they're hanging

788
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 4: on to him, and he's going to be really good,

789
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 4: there's no doubt about it. He's a problem. But they

790
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 4: want to run the football, and they canned Ryan Grubb

791
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 4: because they want to run the football, and somehow they

792
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 4: ended up twenty eighth or twenty ninth in the league

793
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 4: and rushing attempts or overall rushing efficiency or whatever, even

794
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 4: though they gave Ryan Grubb a mid season mandate run

795
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 4: the dang ball and he didn't do it. So apparently

796
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 4: Mike McDonald is all in on running the ball because

797
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 4: he doesn't have any receivers and apparently doesn't really care

798
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 4: at this point.

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Speaker 2: I guess at that rate you're forced to you're forced

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00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 2: to run the ball, or you're just forced to constantly

801
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 2: target JSN up the middle, because that is what he

802
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: was able to do being in that slot, doing those

803
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: crossing routes. That was how he was able to make

804
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 2: his money, for a lack of a better term. I

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00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: do think it's interesting though, because we talk about wide

806
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 2: receivers in the need to block. DK Metcalf was a

807
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 2: great blocking wide receiver and now you do not have

808
00:36:58,760 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 2: that out there.

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Speaker 5: That's a good point. That's actually a really good point.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious clip it please.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, ah Jesus. Anyways, I think it's interesting that

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00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 5: well a that the Seahawks and the Cardinals are going

813
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 5: to have this like super run heavy kind of feel

814
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 5: to them, or at least want to. It was also

815
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 5: funny watching social media in real time. JSN and one

816
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 5: or two of their defensive players on Twitter as all

817
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 5: these moves are happening. As Lockett gets released, then the

818
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 5: trade request comes in with Metcalf and Gino gets traded,

819
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 5: and they're all like, what's going on? See?

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00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 4: I never sweated Dk Metcalf as a threat like JSN

821
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 4: made me a lot more nervous last year than Dk

822
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 4: metcalf ever did. The most notable memorable thing DK metcalf

823
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 4: ever ever did against the Cardinals was Hawk Buddha Baker.

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Speaker 5: Honestly, that's true. It's funny you bring something like that up.

825
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 5: I was talking to Grill earlier and he was talking

826
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Speaker 5: about how good it was that the rain are moving

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00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 5: off Cooper Cup and we will. I'm like, Cooper Cup

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Speaker 5: hasn't done anything against the Cardinals in a while. It's

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00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 5: been Pooka or tight Ends. Yeah, and we looked it

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00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 5: up and really, Cooper Cup hasn't really dominated the Cardinals

831
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Speaker 5: since like twenty one.

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Speaker 4: Which was Triple Crownier twenty one. So see, that's like

833
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 4: the Steelers give up a second round pick for DK

834
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Speaker 4: Metcalf and they pay top dollar.

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Speaker 2: See, to me, that's a mistake. It's one or the other.

836
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 4: Like the Cardinals went out and they paid good money

837
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 4: for Josh Sweat, but they didn't give up any assets.

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00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 4: I just think that is a mistake when you're doing

839
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 4: both for the most part, unless you're a player or

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00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 4: two away. And there's no doubt in my mind, the

841
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 4: Cardinals have transitioned from quantity to quality. I think the

842
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 4: first two years it was about quantity. It was a

843
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 4: rookie class that led the NFL and rookie starts, rookie snaps.

844
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 4: Then you followed it up with a dozen draft picks

845
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 4: in last year's draft class. I'm not even including all

846
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 4: the unrestricted undrafted free agents who have made this team

847
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 4: and made a difference to Mari de Mercado, Starling Thomas,

848
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 4: Elijah Higgins. So Cardinals is now at the point where

849
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 4: it's quality versus quantity.

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00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 2: I think.

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00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 4: So they go out, they spend the money for a

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00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 4: Josh Sweat, We'll see if there's others a few other

853
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 4: precise maneuvers in signings. I mean, is there a guard

854
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 4: out there? Is there a legit starting guard still out there? Yeah,

855
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 4: there's a Kevin Zeitler out there. There's a Tevin Jenkins.

856
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 4: There's a couple of guys who maybe when the price

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00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 4: comes down, might be a fit. We'll see, and maybe

858
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 4: Will Hernandez. Obviously, you got to figure it is still

859
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 4: on the radar, but an ideal world, if I'm the

860
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 4: Cardinals trying to improve on last year, Evan Brown and

861
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 4: Kelvin Beacham are backups, and you either have a first

862
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 4: round rookie Tyler Booker who's your starting left guard and

863
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 4: you put him next to Paris Johnson Junior for the

864
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 4: next decade, or you go out and you get a

865
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 4: guy who you can plug and play. One of those

866
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 4: guys I just named a veteran who you're paying pretty

867
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 4: good money you bring back Will Hernandez. I just think

868
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Speaker 4: when you're looking at this division in particular, Big Cat

869
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 4: Williams from Seattle on what he did, Niners always feature

870
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 4: in value interior defensive lineman. With the Rams have now

871
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 4: in that defensive front, Yeah, I think a mandate for

872
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 4: the Cardinals in the offseason try and improve the two

873
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 4: guard positions going into twenty five.

874
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 5: I will be fascinated to see where this plays out

875
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 5: as we record this. The new league year just started

876
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 5: like three hours ago. Yes, there's been talks since Monday,

877
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 5: so we've been going for a while. Now. I get it,

878
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 5: and I get the people waiting for X, Y and

879
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 5: Z in terms of free agent signing, But I am

880
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 5: curious to see how they look at that, how they

881
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 5: if they go after one of these last few decent

882
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 5: guards on the market, because now they're starting to come

883
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 5: off the list a little bit.

884
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 4: So do you guys view it as a need or

885
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 4: a want because it's one of the other In free agency,

886
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 4: there are needs and there are once O line right now,

887
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 4: interior O line need or want.

888
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 5: I think the way Jonathan Gannon to the way maniosinfor talks.

889
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 5: I see it as a need.

890
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: I see it as a one. I think because you

891
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 2: just signed re signed Evan Brown and you already know

892
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 2: or you're hoping to see that year one to year

893
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 2: two jump from Isaiah Adams in the interior guard position,

894
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 2: if you're able to get an offensive linement through a

895
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: free agency. Right now, when you're looking at the list

896
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: of guards that are available as of this recording, Kevin

897
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 2: Jenkins is available, Kevin Zeitler just got signed to a team,

898
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 2: so the crop is thin. We don't want if you're

899
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: MANI Austin for it. We talk about not wanting to overpay.

900
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 2: You don't want to potentially overpay and pigeonhole yourself for

901
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: a guard that isn't at the caliber that you are,

902
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 2: because you already know what you're getting out of Evan Brown.

903
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 2: They saw it throughout the season and it was good

904
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: enough that they wanted to bring it back.

905
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 5: So for me, here's how I look at that one.

906
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 5: Almost all a free agency is overpay. That's the whole

907
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 5: point of it. Because teams are getting rid of these guys,

908
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 5: they don't want to keep them, so you're overpaying because

909
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 5: of the open market until we get another couple of

910
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 5: weeks out and then you might be able to get

911
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,959
Speaker 5: somebody on the cheap. But I don't think you're gonna

912
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 5: get somebody. The question becomes, this is what you're measuring.

913
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 5: You're measuring who you can get. You're measuring how much

914
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 5: it's gonna cost to get them, and then you have

915
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 5: to measure that against who you have. Like you were

916
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 5: mentioning Evan Brown, I agree that you want to upgrade,

917
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,959
Speaker 5: and you and you know, in a perfect world, Evan

918
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 5: Brown could be your top backup. Perhaps However, if you've

919
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 5: looked at the tape and such and such is only

920
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 5: a tad bit better than Evan Brown. But he's looking

921
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 5: to get three or four times the contract. I'm sorry,

922
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 5: I'm not I'm sticking with Evan Brown. The sleeper.

923
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 4: There is Isaiah Adams. That's the sleeper. We've all talked

924
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 4: to coaches who you know, the last two to four

925
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 4: games of the year, he made improvements. He really evolved,

926
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 4: he did ascend, he did actually get comfortable and got

927
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 4: more effective. Now he just needs to get stronger, needs

928
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 4: to go a little heavier.

929
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 5: The thing about Isaiah Adams, and it's what you said,

930
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 5: which is you hope Isaiah Adams is it reminds me.

931
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 5: Let's take the way back machine, Paul time machine back

932
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 5: to twenty fifteen when they were going to have Ted

933
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 5: Larson be their center.

934
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

935
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 5: I think it was Ted Larson. Yeah, and they lasted

936
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 5: two weeks of training camp and they're like, oh, we

937
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 5: got to go get Lyle Sendline back. Yeah, that's right,

938
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 5: because we wanted to move on from Lyles said line

939
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 5: he was we thought he was past his prime and

940
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 5: we wanted to save some money. And then they realized,

941
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 5: oh that was stupid. We don't have a center and

942
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 5: then you're having to go back and that's what that's

943
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 5: what they don't want to do. Like when I hear

944
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 5: Manti Austin Ford at the scouting combine say, in terms

945
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 5: of the draft, we want to come out of free

946
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 5: agency knowing we could go on the field that day

947
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 5: and play a game before the draft and then we

948
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 5: can draft. How are we need? Do they feel comfortable

949
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 5: being able to go play a game hoping for Isaia

950
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 5: Adams And again I'm not saying Isaiah Adams won't be

951
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 5: that guy. For all we know, we're gonna he's gonna

952
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 5: come back and we're gonna be like, holy crap.

953
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 4: Well, maybe it's us hoping, but they know. Maybe they're

954
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 4: based on the film they saw in the progress he's

955
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 4: made in the weight room, maybe they're a lot more

956
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 4: certain than we are.

957
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 2: I one hundred percent agree. I mean we saw it

958
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 2: towards the back end of the season. He did a

959
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 2: really solid job out there, and the staff was very

960
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: complimentary of that being the case anyway, So I do

961
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 2: think that he talked about how he was going to

962
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 2: go back home, he was right away going to start training.

963
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 2: He was one of the players we spoke to during

964
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 2: locker room clean out, and he was very excited about

965
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: knowing that it's not a matter of what team is

966
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: gonna draft me, that anxiety of being a draft prospect

967
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 2: going to the NFL. Now he's a pro and he

968
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: knows he's capable of doing it. He's celebrated with a

969
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 2: lot of his teammates in the end zones on Russias

970
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 2: that he contributed with. I expect to see that jump.

971
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 4: You know what he needs, He needs a Zach Allen offseason.

972
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 4: Remember that offseason his first a second year, he left

973
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 4: it two eighty five, came back a legit three hundred happened.

974
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 4: So you know, I mean that would be considered winning behavior.

975
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 2: Speaking of here we go, can you display winning behavior?

976
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 5: You have to consistently display winning behavior.

977
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: That's winning behavior. You've got to define what winning behavior

978
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: is and hold people to that standard.

979
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 5: Yes, Paullie PAULI, I before we get stid, I I

980
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 5: don't mean to step on you, oh boy, but we

981
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 5: had some winning behavior today.

982
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: Oh today, real time.

983
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 5: I am a media member. Obviously I thrive on good

984
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 5: sound bites, good quotes that you can write down whatever

985
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 5: and Baron brown Baron Browning hit one out of the

986
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 5: park when he was asked about why he decided to

987
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 5: re sign with the Cardinals and not test the open market.

988
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: I mean, if you got a girlfriend, who's a team,

989
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 2: why play around? That?

990
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 5: Is that is gold?

991
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 4: You know what I should have asked him, And now

992
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 4: I'm really regretting it. She said, do you have a girlfriend?

993
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 4: And did you say that by design? Meaning you know,

994
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 4: are you is that? Is that to win points with

995
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 4: your girlfriend?

996
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 5: A minute? You missed that in the press conference and

997
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 5: then you didn't bring that.

998
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 2: That was Yeah, that was pathetic. That it really was.

999
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 4: I'm going to put myself down on the powerpole of

1000
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 4: incompetence right now. Let me add that to Okay, Oh.

1001
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 2: I know that was winning behavior, just that comment and

1002
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 2: how he just goes yeah, So.

1003
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 5: You know the dead pan was yeah, perfect, priceless.

1004
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 2: It was well done. It was almost rehearsed.

1005
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 5: It was so good, you know, it was although you

1006
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 5: guys asked the same question in the radio booth and

1007
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 5: he did not. He got lots more seriously.

1008
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, honestly, okay, can we are we in

1009
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 4: the trust tree right now? I would have you know,

1010
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 4: GREELEU asked that question, and I would have asked it

1011
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 4: a different way. Oh cool, I would actually led the

1012
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 4: horse to water. I would have said, you know, what

1013
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 4: was that line Baron you gave the media when asked

1014
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 4: why you didn't test free agency? You know that would

1015
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 4: actually had him restate the line, because then, you know.

1016
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 5: If Greed had attended a quality journalism school, maybe.

1017
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 2: He would have known to do that right exactly. I mean, oh,

1018
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: what would you have though if he said to you, like,

1019
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 2: what line are you talking about?

1020
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 5: Oh, then then we all would have been well.

1021
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 4: Then I would have blamed it on Cody for not

1022
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 4: having the sound bite ready to go, just like you

1023
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 4: did moments ago. There's always someone to blame, Zach. Remember

1024
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 4: that's the headphones. Remember if this goes bad, so are

1025
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 4: you blaming the owner of Twitter who will go unnamed

1026
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 4: for the meltdown that happened at the and the Vergin?

1027
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 5: Why? Why, speaking of wayser phrasing stuff, why would you say.

1028
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I didn't really notice this on Monday

1029
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 4: all that much. It didn't Did it really impact you guys,

1030
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 4: guys who live on social media and especially X like

1031
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 4: the two of you. I mean, I did it really was?

1032
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 4: It was this a traumatic experience.

1033
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 5: I didn't even know it went down, but I either

1034
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 5: I didn't either. But here's what happened on Monday. Don't

1035
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 5: forget that things started warming up early, uh, even before

1036
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 5: the nine o'clock here noon noon eastern, when the the

1037
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 5: legal tampering started quote unquote, well sure, I.

1038
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 4: Mean, Jordan Schultz is trying to beat Ian Rappaport to

1039
00:47:59,080 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 4: the punch and.

1040
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 5: Punch and because of the time change, like we're all

1041
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 5: probably still sleeping when they all started tweeting stuff, all

1042
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 5: the insiders. But not not a great thing, I realize,

1043
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 5: how I mean, I know I live online and I

1044
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 5: live watching all you know this in real time, but man,

1045
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 5: when it's down, I I really have to rethink my

1046
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 5: life's priority sometimes okay, not winning behavior to have that

1047
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 5: go down?

1048
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 4: All right, I'm trying to Uh, it was hacked, by

1049
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 4: the way, Yeah, it was hacked. Is this thumbs up

1050
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 4: or thumbs down? When making news is and I'm quoting now,

1051
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 4: a cheeto shape like the beloved Pokemon character is auction

1052
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 4: for nearly eighty eight thousand dollars.

1053
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 5: Are you a Pokemon guys?

1054
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 2: At not at all? Are you ever, not at all.

1055
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: I was. I was a baseball card collector, which I

1056
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 2: think most people, you know, most people, I think, I

1057
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 2: think if you were interested in sports, I would say

1058
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 2: a good chunk of people did collect days and.

1059
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 5: They never understood the Pokemon. But that was well after

1060
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 5: my I think it was well after my that would

1061
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 5: have done that.

1062
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 2: All I know is my brother had a Lebron James

1063
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 2: card that he traded for something just bland, and he

1064
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: got that Lebron James card in return, and that now

1065
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: that card's worth like three four thousand dollars allegedly, but

1066
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 2: it's definitely not this Pokemon.

1067
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 5: This Pokemon, well, this isn't a Pokemon card. It's a Cheetos.

1068
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 5: For God's sake, it's a Cheetos ard. Somebody paid eighty

1069
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 5: seven thousand and forty dollars for a freaking Cheeto.

1070
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 4: Okay, as a guy not winning behavior, as a guy

1071
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 4: who has a dog by the name of Cheeto, there's absolutely.

1072
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 5: Would you pay eighty seven thousand dollars for it?

1073
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 2: I mean it's uh.

1074
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 4: You know what if if I had actually monetized my idea,

1075
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 4: which was to create the weight loss drug for dogs,

1076
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 4: I would have eighty eight thousand dollars in disposable income

1077
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 4: to buy a Cheeto.

1078
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 5: So that's fair.

1079
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 2: That's what I think of, and that that.

1080
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 5: Would be winning. Yeah, that would be if you're getting

1081
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 5: the money, if you're selling the cheeto for eighty seven

1082
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 5: thousand dollars, God bless you, baby.

1083
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 2: But what inspires someone to want to put up their

1084
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 2: cheeto for sale?

1085
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 5: Because it looks like a Pokemon?

1086
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 2: But that person saw that cheeto and goes, wow, this

1087
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 2: looks like a Pokemon. Thatt me put this into auction.

1088
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 2: That person looked at it. That person needs to be checked.

1089
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 5: That person looked at a cheeto, said it looks like

1090
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 5: a Pokemon, and oh my god, there are so many

1091
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 5: dumb ass people in this world. Somebody will pay me

1092
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 5: for it, and they were right.

1093
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 4: It reminds me of the time I wrapped up an

1094
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 4: interview with Larry Fitzgerald and shared that he had an

1095
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 4: earring on a diamond earring the shape and size of

1096
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 4: a cheese it And remember, do you remember that this

1097
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 4: square one used to wear.

1098
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 2: That was a flex?

1099
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 4: All right, here's the last one here, let's see here.

1100
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 4: I enjoyed this one greatly, really, because you're going to

1101
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 4: explain this one to me.

1102
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 5: So this is they call it it's over. I think

1103
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 5: in Ireland or Britain they refer to it as an

1104
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 5: ancient soccer game. But it's basically like hundreds of people

1105
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 5: in the streets of whatever little town you're in. You

1106
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 5: have a ball, you determine what the goals are on

1107
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 5: either side of the town, and then basically it's you're

1108
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 5: trying to get the ball into whatever goal, whatever team

1109
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 5: you're on. But there's like hundreds of people like jammed

1110
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 5: together and it's no holds barred. One of the rules

1111
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 5: literally is no murder. Paul. If you have to have

1112
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 5: a rule that says no murder, talk about check yourself.

1113
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: It's also one of the few rules that they had.

1114
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: Did you guys watch any videos of it?

1115
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 5: I didn't. I dates back to the sixteen hundred.

1116
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 2: Yes, it is impressive. Everybody gets to this town. People

1117
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 2: are tailgating it like they have beers and stuff of that. Names.

1118
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 5: Well, I'm thinking, if you're doing this, you better get liquored.

1119
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 2: Well, a lot of people were liquored up for this one.

1120
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 2: But they have the person that carries the ball like

1121
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 2: locked arm in arm as they're walking to the top

1122
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 2: of like this balcony. Then they tossed the ball out,

1123
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 2: and then it's just an entire rugby scrum of people

1124
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 2: going at each other, trying to push them from side

1125
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 2: to side. I'm not sure. Once again, going back to

1126
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 2: people who think of this to even start, I'm not

1127
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 2: sure who was like, wow, back in the sixteen hundreds,

1128
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: we need some action, let's just all go attack each other.

1129
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 5: Well, it's not like you got Twitter.

1130
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 2: That is very true, I'm saying, because they have X.

1131
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 5: I'm saying, non cardinal, I'm putting cam Scataboo out there.

1132
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 5: If I had to pick a cardinal, Darius Robinson would

1133
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 5: be somebody that I would think of. That guy is built.

1134
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 4: This sounds like a midiast, sounds like an original version

1135
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 4: of the Purge, right, the Purge soccer style. That's almost

1136
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 4: what you have there.

1137
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 5: I'm gonna call this. I'm gonna call this game winning behavior.

1138
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 5: And more importantly, i'm gonna call the no murder rule

1139
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 5: winning behavior.

1140
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 2: That's okay, that's good, considerate.

1141
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 5: Of you, thank you. I like to believe that not

1142
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 5: murdering people's winning behavior.

1143
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 2: But I loved how in the one video I watched

1144
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 2: her was this old older lady and she was just like,

1145
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,919
Speaker 2: I just love the atmosphere. It's a lot of fun.

1146
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 2: And once the ball goes, once they drop the ball down,

1147
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 2: it's all ages of people.

1148
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 5: Close to that imitation sound to your mom, to.

1149
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 2: My mom, Well this person was British. My mom's not British.

1150
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 5: Well you didn't do it a British acts.

1151
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna try doing.

1152
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 5: It, Okay, So were imitating your mom? No, okay, just

1153
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 5: checking my mom's Russian.

1154
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: Okay, I could do a Russian accent.

1155
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 5: Go for it.

1156
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: Not happening, I'll take it away.

1157
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 4: Winning behavior to not winning behavior brings us to the

1158
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 4: powerpole of ineptitude, and oh, here we go.

1159
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 2: I'll just be waiting.

1160
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna run the no huddle here. There's some

1161
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 4: world events. If you don't know the current events, that's

1162
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 4: on u ZAC. So I'm just gonna bring these up.

1163
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 4: I'll give you a quick explanation. In the North Sea,

1164
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 4: the North Sea, we had a cargo ship slam into

1165
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 4: a tanker ship in the middle of the North Sea

1166
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 4: and they say no foul play was involved. So that

1167
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 4: means it's just sheer incompetence, in ineptitude, as you slammed

1168
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 4: into a tanker ship okay, the size of a small

1169
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 4: island carrying flammable jet fuel.

1170
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 2: So there's that. The North Sea.

1171
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 4: We go to South Korea where fighter jets accidentally dropped,

1172
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 4: accidentally dropped eight bombs on a civilian area. I bring

1173
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 4: this up because people were only injured. Eight people were injured,

1174
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 4: four seriously.

1175
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 2: No one was killed.

1176
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 4: And the South Green Air Force says that the pilot

1177
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 4: entered the wrong coordinates and you dropped eight bombs, five

1178
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 4: hundred pound bombs on civilians during a training run. The

1179
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 4: Air Force apologized in South Korea. Uh, there's that. How

1180
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 4: about Australia. This is an international edition to the Powerpole

1181
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 4: of an aptitude.

1182
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 5: Wait, ray guns always on it, So how is it

1183
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 5: not always international?

1184
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 2: Well that is a good point.

1185
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 5: No, it's to you know, a gun's entire families on this.

1186
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 4: But that's our segue, by the way, because ray gun

1187
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 4: is still the reigning number one position holders okay until

1188
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 4: knocked off. But her brother is making a late and

1189
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 4: hard charge right here in a one hundred thousand dollars

1190
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 4: crypto fraud scheme money laundering in Australia. So because it

1191
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 4: can always get worse it does for the Raygun family,

1192
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 4: as brother now is on money laundering chargers.

1193
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 5: Okay, just as a quick was there anybody in football

1194
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 5: that you saw as reaching the ineptitude?

1195
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 4: Yes, Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys, who for some

1196
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 4: reason will not extend Micah Parsons. And as they wait,

1197
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 4: what happens. The edge rusher market gets reset time and again,

1198
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 4: first Max Crosby, it gets reset, and then all of

1199
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 4: a sudden, Miles Garrett. So as you wait, for whatever reason,

1200
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 4: we have no idea, the edge musher edge rusher market

1201
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 4: is getting sent into the stratosphere.

1202
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 5: I quick segue with the Cardinals on this. I had

1203
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 5: a mail bag question this week, and I'm not trying

1204
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 5: to be cruel, but it was suggested to me, and

1205
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 5: you can see it in the mail bag. It was

1206
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 5: suggested that the Cardinals haven't have an extent did Trey

1207
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 5: McBride yet, because they want to wait till the tight

1208
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,919
Speaker 5: end market is settled so they can make sure he's

1209
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 5: the highest paid. And I'm like, no, that's not usually

1210
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 5: how that worked.

1211
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: No, no, typically not.

1212
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 5: Now, I won't be surprised if he ends up being

1213
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 5: the highest paid. Perhaps, but that's not.

1214
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't are there any pending free agent

1215
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 4: no or any sort of contracts that are going to

1216
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 4: be redone this.

1217
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 5: I think it's been pretty much clear.

1218
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 2: Right there's no premiere tight end. It's about to get

1219
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 2: paid right now.

1220
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 5: Manti Austin for it's kind of busy, and I know

1221
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 5: you can work on parallel tracks, but there's no rush

1222
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 5: to get Trey McBride done. So whether it happens later

1223
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 5: this month or in the beginning of OTAs or midway

1224
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 5: through training camp, you're you're fine.

1225
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of the player, though there was

1226
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 4: a player was the last offseason, this offseason before Cardinals

1227
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 4: did extend and did reward handsomely and didn't money purposely

1228
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 4: say yes, I waited until after the draft because that's

1229
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 4: when I could devote full attention.

1230
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 2: I don't do that contract.

1231
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 4: And he wanted to make sure he was all in

1232
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 4: on free agency and then and.

1233
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 5: I think with this again, there's no super rush. Like

1234
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 5: you said, I don't think there's any other pressing contracts

1235
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 5: out there that it would get compared to. I mean,

1236
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 5: it's it's not like the rush. You know, if Trey

1237
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 5: Hendrickson gets traded he's going to get a giant contract too.

1238
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 4: The only other late entry others receiving votes in the

1239
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 4: powerpol of Aneptitude would be fifty to eighty, which is

1240
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 4: the elevation of Denver, which they feel the need to

1241
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 4: put on virtually everything.

1242
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 2: I don't like that that Nuggets Jersey stinking Nuggets Jersey screams.

1243
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 2: I mean they have it on their Yeah, we get it,

1244
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 2: we get it. You're the mile High City. We get it, Denver.

1245
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 4: It's it's there when you get off the bus for

1246
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 4: the visitors' locker room. It's on your course on the Jersey,

1247
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 4: you know things.

1248
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 5: I don't really like the Mavericks floor that they had

1249
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 5: the other day when the Sun's played. I know it's

1250
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 5: obviously a better quality, but on TV it looks like

1251
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 5: something you'd see like your local y or at your

1252
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,439
Speaker 5: local middle school that they turn into like the lunch

1253
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 5: room when you're not playing basketball.

1254
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 2: Did you see the courts that your Microsoft, if I'm

1255
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 2: not mistaken, is developing where you have a surface and

1256
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 2: you're able to draw on it, and it's basically it's

1257
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 2: like a glass led looking floor. So when you're a

1258
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 2: basketball basketball court, so coaches are doing their designs on

1259
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 2: this tablet and you could see it on the court,

1260
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 2: so it's you're practicing with it. Yes, I know that's

1261
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 2: that would get confusing during it. I know that the

1262
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 2: NBA did it for one of their you know, all

1263
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 2: star events. They had the different colors, but it was

1264
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 2: it was pretty neat.

1265
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 5: I just would like to say that bringing in free

1266
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:39,439
Speaker 5: agent Zach Gershman for this episode, I think it's turned out. Okay,

1267
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 5: I mean I think we overpaid.

1268
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 4: I could promise you well again if we're in the

1269
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 4: trust tree. I saw it the other day where Google

1270
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 4: said that twenty five percent of its code is now

1271
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 4: being written by AI. So you know, I did suggest

1272
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 4: maybe AI, you know, as a replacement, but Zach, you

1273
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 4: came in. You gave it the human touch. You know,

1274
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 4: you went above and beyond just a computer modeling. So yeah,

1275
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 4: well done.

1276
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 2: Well I will say this about computers. Josh Sweat the

1277
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 2: reportedly the newest cardinal until they put pen to paper, right,

1278
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 2: he actually makes computers by scratch. He buys all the

1279
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 2: pieces and he's built over twenty computers.

1280
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 5: Hmmm, okay, I built the lego thing once.

1281
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 2: I'm I'm so proud of you. It had put that

1282
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 2: on winning behavior.

1283
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 4: So are you are you saying he's a big brain

1284
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 4: like Josh Dobbs? Is that what we were saying?

1285
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 2: So I was reading an article that was done in

1286
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 2: the Athletic and he called himself nerdy. So we have

1287
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 2: a we have a nerdy guy in the building.

1288
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 5: Now Paul's gonna ask Josh sweat.

1289
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 4: I'm gonna come up with question. Yep, the alien's question

1290
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 4: is coming. I got to think of some good questions.

1291
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 5: Now you can ask my AI.

1292
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 2: It's true.

1293
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll get Yeah, that's that's uh, that works. Okay,

1294
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 4: Actually I'll ask him if he can he can build

1295
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 4: an AI third you know wheel here on Cardinals Underground.

1296
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 4: You know, so then sorry, yeah, when the eighteen to

1297
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 4: thirty four demo wants to take you know, an entire

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Speaker 4: week off for their birthday, then you know we we

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Speaker 4: have a viable alternative to plug and play.

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Speaker 2: So there you go. Oh, I know, is I'm available?

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Speaker 2: Let me know? Okay, I excited for Danny to return.

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Speaker 2: She deserves to see him.

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Speaker 4: And again, if anyone didn't like my efforts over here,

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Speaker 4: I'm blaming one hundred percent on the new headphones and

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Speaker 4: that'll do it. For this edition of Cardinals Underground, brought

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Speaker 4: to you by the Pacific Office Automation