Speaker 1: The control group contains scenes of realistic violence and graphic sexuality.
Speaker 1: It is intended for mature listeners. In the field of
Speaker 1: psychiatric medicine, it was an exciting time, a time of
Speaker 1: innovation and discovery, a time when mental health institutions struggled
Speaker 1: to redefine themselves, to become something more than repositories of
Speaker 1: the sick. Unorthodox methods and aggressive therapies were not only permitted,
Speaker 1: but encouraged. This is a record of that time. This
Speaker 1: is the control group. Get me up, I got a
Speaker 1: fine Morgan. Don't don't try to speak here, let me
Speaker 1: help you. Sit there, you go, No need to stand
Speaker 1: up until you're ready. Can you drink some water? Hmm? Here,
Speaker 1: just try a sip. It's okay, it's okay. I take
Speaker 1: it slow. You have all the time in the world.
Speaker 1: Do you want to hold you out? Try it on
Speaker 1: your own. That's it, careful, something's wrong with my hands.
Speaker 1: It's perfectly normal. It just takes a little while for
Speaker 1: your brain to regain control over your body. Take a
Speaker 1: few minutes and let your body regain its equilibrium. That's
Speaker 1: all from what therapy E c T. Yes, Hello, Charlotte,
Speaker 1: I thought I would check in on the new girl,
Speaker 1: aren't you sweet? Charlotte? Do you mind helping carrying back
Speaker 1: to the ward? I really need to get back to
Speaker 1: my station. It'll be my pleasure. Thank you, Charlotte. I
Speaker 1: suppose I owe you an apology. I know I could
Speaker 1: have warned you about E c. T. But what would
Speaker 1: have been the point? I didn't want to frighten you.
Speaker 1: Some of his treatments may seem cruel, but Dr Hayes
Speaker 1: is a brilliant man, and no matter how it may appear,
Speaker 1: he really does have our best interest at heart. I
Speaker 1: can help you back out to the ward if you'll
Speaker 1: let me. You don't have to talk to me if
Speaker 1: you don't want to, I'll understand well, Charlotte, Yes, dear.
Speaker 1: How often does anyone leave the hospital discharged? That's right?
Speaker 1: Not very often. But some of the women were placed
Speaker 1: here by their families and will probably never be released. Others,
Speaker 1: the schizophrenics, the m d S, manic depressives you can
Speaker 1: tell by looking at them, will probably never leave. Not
Speaker 1: every illness has a cure. What about you? How long
Speaker 1: have I been here? That's right? Two years a bit more?
Speaker 1: My god, how do you stand it? I should ask
Speaker 1: you the same thing about life on the outside. Things
Speaker 1: are so peaceful here. It's a sanctuary. It really is.
Speaker 1: E c T can be intimidating at first, but it
Speaker 1: neutralizes all the all the So when do you think
Speaker 1: you'll be discharged? I could probably go tell Dr Hayes
Speaker 1: I'm ready and need to open the game. Then why
Speaker 1: don't you Why would I want to? Karen? Stop looking
Speaker 1: at this as a punishment. This is a hospital, we're
Speaker 1: receiving medical attention. Why can't you appreciate what he's trying
Speaker 1: to do for all of us. I'll get out when
Speaker 1: Dr Hayes thinks I'm ready. But you see, he's a perfectionist.
Speaker 1: He has very high standards. I guess, like mids architecture,
Speaker 1: you might be you an on the campus of the university.
Speaker 1: Perhaps the better curtis need of British nobility. But this
Speaker 1: place is intact the Central State Hospital at Utanan, a
Speaker 1: city unto itself. The hospital is situated upon one acres
Speaker 1: of land and has its own fire department, plant, Doctor Hayes.
Speaker 1: Dr Hayes, yes, yes, there's something wrong. It's nothing wrong.
Speaker 1: It's just that we have a limited amount of time
Speaker 1: in which just second time today and can you kill
Speaker 1: it less hang Central State. I think it would be
Speaker 1: a more constructive use of our time to discuss the
Speaker 1: particulars of your grant renewal. M sure. Since I only
Speaker 1: have a few minutes to visit today, I hope to
Speaker 1: discuss the results of your latest work. What's gone on
Speaker 1: in the last ninety days, what do you expect in
Speaker 1: the next ninety And still have some time to talk
Speaker 1: about new directions, new directions, anything you like. I read
Speaker 1: with great interest your paper abolishing Consciousness through e c T.
Speaker 1: Do you plan to publish? Yes, I'm trying. So far,
Speaker 1: I haven't had any luck severe delusion, paranoia, schizophrenia. Have
Speaker 1: you found that the treatment has any positive effect upon
Speaker 1: the patient? Well? Or is it simply neutralizing the symptoms? Well,
Speaker 1: neutralizing the symptoms of mental illness is a positive effect,
Speaker 1: I think to a degree. But the goal should always
Speaker 1: be the elimination of the cause of this erratic behavior.
Speaker 1: If your objective is to neutralize it seems you could
Speaker 1: just prescribe some thorizine and get the same effect. The
Speaker 1: point is, we know the effect of e c T
Speaker 1: applying more of the same as in research. We know
Speaker 1: it flattens the brain waves, but it doesn't really do
Speaker 1: anything to attack the problem. I'm not sure I agree.
Speaker 1: We ask have you been doing anything different since receiving
Speaker 1: the s i H grant then you were doing, say
Speaker 1: six months ago. Well, it's allowed us to enlarge our
Speaker 1: staff and increase the frequency of treatment because the impression
Speaker 1: on getting excuse me for interrupting the impression on getting,
Speaker 1: is that you're applying s i H funding towards the
Speaker 1: general operational costs of your port and not applying it
Speaker 1: towards specific new research. Being in the medical field, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you can appreciate how cautious you have to be
Speaker 1: when introducing new forms of therapy. Appreciate research that aligns
Speaker 1: with s i H objectives. We appreciate results has come
Speaker 1: from this research. We would appreciate it if you would
Speaker 1: focus on new research. It is not our business to
Speaker 1: underwrite a facilities day to day operations. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: now that if that's how you plan to spend the
Speaker 1: next ninety days, we won't be able to continue to
Speaker 1: support your work. In New Canaan understood decided CCT is
Speaker 1: so blunt it's like performing surgery with an axe rather
Speaker 1: than a scalpel. It lacks precision control. Here's my problem
Speaker 1: with e c T. You say you want to how
Speaker 1: do you put it, abolish consciousness? If you want to
Speaker 1: clean out the brain by by by wiping the slate clean,
Speaker 1: you risk of raising all the valuable data store inside
Speaker 1: the knowledge, the memories. You see where I'm going here,
Speaker 1: don't you? I think, sir? And what do you put
Speaker 1: in the empty space anything? Have you ever thought about
Speaker 1: the name of our organization, the Society for the Investigation
Speaker 1: of Human Ecology Human Ecology. I think of the mind
Speaker 1: as a garden. E c T is like a tiller
Speaker 1: that churns the soil. It wouldn't it be better to
Speaker 1: have pulled the weeds, as it were, selectively remove the
Speaker 1: harmful growth is crowding out the healthy thoughts, so that
Speaker 1: we could then harvest the fruit of the mind. But
Speaker 1: when you say harvest, I don't understand. Maybe gardening who
Speaker 1: wasn't the best metaphor I could have used, But hopefully
Speaker 1: you get what I'm saying. Instead of erasing the contents
Speaker 1: of damaged mind, let's try to open it up, look around,
Speaker 1: decide what's worth keeping and what should be thrown away. Yes, yes.
Speaker 1: And if you decide to till the soil and mulch everything,
Speaker 1: you make the ground fertile again. You have an opportunity
Speaker 1: to plan a fresh crop, a healthy crop in its place.
Speaker 1: Have you planned for that? There are ways. I'll send
Speaker 1: over a paper from one of our members. How old
Speaker 1: are you? Doctor has met two is not so old.
Speaker 1: You still have time to do something great. You just
Speaker 1: have to think like a twenty six year old again.
Speaker 1: Remember that sometimes when a doctor has spent too much
Speaker 1: time in the same word as vision narrows, this is
Speaker 1: his touch with his ambition. Let's roll back the odometer
Speaker 1: of your career. Hayes give you a second chance to
Speaker 1: to do something something big. H good afternoon, ladies. In
Speaker 1: about thirty minutes we'll all walk over to the dining room,
Speaker 1: so please visit the wash room now if you need
Speaker 1: to tidy up. In a moment, Dr Hayes will be
Speaker 1: coming through the ward with a very important guest. I'll
Speaker 1: expect you to be on your best behavior. And yes,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at you, Irene. Thank you. Hi, Hello, Karen.
Speaker 1: Glad to see you've gotten your land legs again. Yes, ma'am,
Speaker 1: can I help you with something sure. Maybe, um, would
Speaker 1: it be possible for you need to make a phone call?
Speaker 1: I mean it is there like a procedure where I
Speaker 1: can request to make a patience are not allowed to
Speaker 1: use the telephone. I'm sorry, Carrie, oh that there must
Speaker 1: be some way to communicate with the outside world. What
Speaker 1: you know, we need to speak to someone outside the hospital.
Speaker 1: Ask Dr Hayes in your next interview. He will consider
Speaker 1: the request and take a proper action. Okay, it'll take
Speaker 1: five minutes, two minutes. Well, the the phone is right there.
Speaker 1: Come on, Karen, if you need to speak to someone
Speaker 1: outside the hospital, ask Dr Hayes. And all right, I
Speaker 1: heard you. Like the convulsive y it's just the first
Speaker 1: step care no process because it's the most aggressive and
Speaker 1: reliable and neutralizer of conscious thought affect the short term
Speaker 1: and treating every patient every forty eight hours puts a
Speaker 1: strain on our staff, not to mention our electric bill. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you and Cameron up in in Montreal. He's having
Speaker 1: excellent results with sleep therapy. Ever heard of him? The
Speaker 1: society is um well acquainted with Dr Cameron's research, brilliant mind.
Speaker 1: So encouraged by his success. We've stalked up on phena
Speaker 1: barbitall and have set up a sleep room right here
Speaker 1: in New canaan first one in the southern US. There's
Speaker 1: one patient there at the moment, derotic, excitable, prone to
Speaker 1: burst of hysteria. You're out a sleep on would you
Speaker 1: care to see it? Dr her Ace, You are just
Speaker 1: full of surprises right this way. I only have one
Speaker 1: patient under the sedative right now. She's three days in.
Speaker 1: Certainly looks peaceful. It's a deep, RESTful sleep, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: And we'll be constantly modering her vitals and adjusting the
Speaker 1: dosage along the way, and you'll keep her under the
Speaker 1: next round of VC T is Friday. We'll wake her up,
Speaker 1: feeder and treat her and put her right back under.
Speaker 1: And you hope to replicate the success of Dr Cameron's experiment.
Speaker 1: That's right. And then yeah, I'll caution you not to
Speaker 1: dwell too long in another man's shadow. Cameron's were is remarkable.
Speaker 1: We'll give them back, but it's his. How will you
Speaker 1: leave your market? What will be your treatments? How will
Speaker 1: you apply them to make a name for yourself? Food
Speaker 1: for thought? That's all, if you don't mind my asking, Dcores,
Speaker 1: is there a reason you apply your more experimental therapies
Speaker 1: to women. Uh, we've We've found, I've I've found, and
Speaker 1: I think the research supports this. The female mind is
Speaker 1: more supple, more malleable than the male, which tends to
Speaker 1: have developed a stronger resistance, whether it's culturally enforced defense
Speaker 1: mechanism or just the genetic proclivity. The jury is still loud.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, if you prefer that I treat
Speaker 1: male patients, I suppose I could just started. No need
Speaker 1: to be defensive DRS. It aligns with what all are
Speaker 1: just seem to have found. And where would medical research
Speaker 1: be you without the lab mouse, white, complacent, obedient. Just
Speaker 1: remember that the lab mouse has been conditioned to be
Speaker 1: the model patient. Just remember that at a certain point
Speaker 1: it will be necessary to apply your methods to unless
Speaker 1: cooperative subject. This is an interview with patient Myers Caring.
Speaker 1: The date is October. Also present as ward head nurse
Speaker 1: vir Tree, Billburn. It's okring, how we've been getting along.
Speaker 1: You're same to have come through your first DCT treatment. Okay,
Speaker 1: if you feel sore, Charlotte or one of the girls
Speaker 1: can show you some stretching and bending. Why do you
Speaker 1: call it easy? T stands for electroc convulsive therapy. Why
Speaker 1: don't you just call it shock treatment because that's not
Speaker 1: what it is. We use ECT to help wipe off
Speaker 1: the mental slate. What do we call deep patterning gets
Speaker 1: sort of the clutter and noise. But if you want
Speaker 1: to call it shock treatment, be my guest. Any other questions.
Speaker 1: We have a variety of therapies in our medical arsenal,
Speaker 1: each one tailor to the specific needs of the patient.
Speaker 1: Yesterday you asked me about a timetable for your release.
Speaker 1: The truth of the matter is there are no shortcuts.
Speaker 1: The treatment takes time. But to encourage the process, I
Speaker 1: need two things from you. Your cooperation, not just with me,
Speaker 1: but with the nurse is the attendance to the other patients.
Speaker 1: And the second is honesty, absolute honesty. If you help me,
Speaker 1: I can help you. Since we last spoke, I've had
Speaker 1: a closer look at your file, to be honest, with
Speaker 1: a thing in your file that don't add up, and frankly,
Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure why you're here and not in
Speaker 1: a prison facility. I do intend to take this up
Speaker 1: with the state, but before I do, I want to
Speaker 1: get your side of the story. Okay, you were in
Speaker 1: a hotel room when Ronald Grant was pushed through a window, actually,
Speaker 1: let's be honest, thrown through a window to his death.
Speaker 1: I didn't throw him through the window, obviously, but I'm
Speaker 1: sure you can shed some light on the circumstances of
Speaker 1: the incident. Why were you there? We were there on
Speaker 1: a date, doctor, You know why we were there, that's right,
Speaker 1: So why be quite about it? A date? Beyond having
Speaker 1: a sexual liaison for money? Was there any ulterior motive
Speaker 1: in taking him up to the room? Robbery? Is the
Speaker 1: motel a clip joint, Get a man drunk, cold cock,
Speaker 1: and then take his wallet. Only Ronald Grant had a
Speaker 1: tolerance for liquor and sex. You're debate and someone else
Speaker 1: does the dirty work, the other dirty work. There was
Speaker 1: no one in the room but Ronald and myself, and
Speaker 1: I didn't touch him. Just how much did he pay
Speaker 1: you not to be touched? I mean, he touched me.
Speaker 1: You might say that was the whole point of going
Speaker 1: on afterwards after your romantic date had ended as well.
Speaker 1: Grant so dissatisfied the experience that he just jumped through
Speaker 1: a plate class window. Didn't open it first, didn't even
Speaker 1: open the blinds just just to a rhyan start, and
Speaker 1: that's exactly how it happened. Swear to God. Did the
Speaker 1: police ever find the person they were looking for? Who
Speaker 1: your accomplice? Or were you the accomplice? How does that work? Exactly?
Speaker 1: When you were arrested, you told the police you had
Speaker 1: to get out of jail free card if they would
Speaker 1: just call the number on the card. What was that about? Uh? So?
Speaker 1: Is this just something the police fabricated for their own amusement?
Speaker 1: Did they call the number? Whose number was on the card? Karen?
Speaker 1: And if they called the number, why did you stay
Speaker 1: in jail card? That's ridiculous in a way. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: The details of the crime are not pertinent your treatment here.
Speaker 1: Neither is your guilt or innocence. I honestly don't care
Speaker 1: whether you did it or not. But what does matter
Speaker 1: is your willingness to cooperate, to be honest, fact is pertinent.
Speaker 1: That's what I need from you, and that's what you're
Speaker 1: refusing to provide. Every question I asked, whether it's big
Speaker 1: or small, you you refuse to answer. You don't even
Speaker 1: bother to make up. Wise, how are we going to
Speaker 1: have a productive interview session? If you won't particip because
Speaker 1: all you want to ask me about is the fucking crime,
Speaker 1: because that's the one thing you refuse to talk about.
Speaker 1: You want me to bear my soul. I'll bear my soul.
Speaker 1: Get out your notebook. I'll tell you about my shitty childhood,
Speaker 1: my creepy cousins, my abusive uncles, even my my school teachers.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you about running away from home at fifteen,
Speaker 1: the first time I pop pills, lost my virginity, turned
Speaker 1: a trick, got my face pounded in, got my arm
Speaker 1: broken by some angry john. I wouldn't let defy, only
Speaker 1: in ways you couldn't imagine. I'm telling you about the
Speaker 1: things that made me who I am, for better or worse.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I had to do to stay
Speaker 1: alive on the street, the people I had to depend
Speaker 1: on for safety. But I won't I won't tell you
Speaker 1: about what happened in twelve So of all the things,
Speaker 1: of all the things that I'm willing to share with you.
Speaker 1: If that's the only thing that you want to know
Speaker 1: about me one night, you can save your fucking breath. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, ask me about me, about me, and I'll
Speaker 1: tell you the Please please, Okay, I guess the battle
Speaker 1: lines are drawn. This concludes interview with Myers Karen m h.
Speaker 1: Hello again, Hayes. I thought we had covered everything. Thanks
Speaker 1: for coming out. I really appreciate you coming by. And
Speaker 1: I can only stay a minute. I need to get
Speaker 1: to the airport by six if I'm going to get
Speaker 1: back to ACA tonight. It'll just take a minute. I
Speaker 1: would have met you at the airport, but it's hard
Speaker 1: for me to get away. It's not a problem. If
Speaker 1: it's important enough for you to call me back, I
Speaker 1: figure it deserves my attention. It is, I think it does.
Speaker 1: I mean you'll want to hear it. Uh. I've put
Speaker 1: a lot of thought into what we were discussing last time,
Speaker 1: and I have some ideas, some forward thinking ideas that
Speaker 1: I think the society might be interested in having me explore.
Speaker 1: Spoken like a proper twenty six year old age. H,
Speaker 1: I'm all ears. Tell me if we think of the
Speaker 1: mind and analytical terms, no no, no, no no no,
Speaker 1: but the bear with me, bear with me, tell me
Speaker 1: if I'm on track. The psychoanalysts must base is treatment
Speaker 1: on what the patient is willing to share through memories, dreams,
Speaker 1: and then the details they choose to share, right, that's right. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe the patient wants to share every detail, but they
Speaker 1: are limited in their own memory. For every dream they share,
Speaker 1: there's another one that they're unable to recall. So the
Speaker 1: psychoanalysts cannot treat the patient until they're able to break
Speaker 1: through this filter and determine what the patient is really
Speaker 1: Thanking funding Freudian research, you know that doctor is suppose
Speaker 1: we remove the filter, break down the patient's mental resistance,
Speaker 1: whether it's one they've erected or one their subconscious mind
Speaker 1: is erected, and we look inside, We crack open the
Speaker 1: head and get the unfiltered truth that lies within. Imagine
Speaker 1: the possibility if a doctor were capable of breaking down
Speaker 1: that wall. There is no limit to what he could achieve.
Speaker 1: And that's the kind of a doctor of the Society
Speaker 1: for the Investigation of Human Ecology would support to the
Speaker 1: absolute limit. Tell me more. It's a great idea in theory,
Speaker 1: but I need specifics. I have a patient who's harboring
Speaker 1: a secret. She's tough, sharp, fully functioning, but uncooperative. In
Speaker 1: that patient's name, oh that um, let's just call her Karen. Okay,
Speaker 1: you said something about a secret. A very big, secret
Speaker 1: criminal one that will put her in state prison if
Speaker 1: I can get it out of her. The police couldn't
Speaker 1: make her talk, the state prosecutor couldn't make her talk.
Speaker 1: I think I can make her talk. In fact, I'm
Speaker 1: sure if are you sure you should be involving yourself
Speaker 1: in a criminal case only to degree that benefits her treatment,
Speaker 1: I can crack her open. I know I can crack
Speaker 1: her I that is, by combining several of the newer,
Speaker 1: more aggressive theories we can we can retrieve a very specific,
Speaker 1: targeted piece of information. Wow, who is this new doctor
Speaker 1: Hayes who stands before me as a man of ideas?
Speaker 1: Consider your grand proposal approved. I'll have the necessary signatures
Speaker 1: by the end of the day tomorrow. Record everything. If
Speaker 1: it works the s I h will want to know
Speaker 1: every detail. I will, and if it doesn't, we wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to know a thing about it. H understood, it's
Speaker 1: a lot of resources to dedicate to a single case.
Speaker 1: Have you considered the mechanics of a more widespread application
Speaker 1: of your therapy. I haven't yet. I'm still refining the method.
Speaker 1: It's never too early to think about where you would
Speaker 1: take this once it's perfected. While the s I G
Speaker 1: appreciates the value of labmize, we want to support therapies
Speaker 1: that can be applied on a broad spectrum of patients
Speaker 1: to accomplish a variety of objectives. I don't see why not.
Speaker 1: I I see this as just the beginning. I'll be
Speaker 1: honest with your haste. I'm starting to like what I
Speaker 1: see in you. The society was starting to have its doubts,
Speaker 1: but I'm glad I stood up for you. Put her there.
Speaker 1: Let's get started. Oh, just one last thing, I hope
Speaker 1: you don't mind. The Society for the Investigation of Human
Speaker 1: Ecology does not assign projects or even recommend specific areas
Speaker 1: for SERVE. We simply invest in projects relevant to progressive psychopharmacology,
Speaker 1: psychosurgery and research and share in the knowledge that results.
Speaker 1: And that's it. Abo'll do it. M M. Good morning, ladies.
Speaker 1: We hope you had a relaxing weekend on behalf of
Speaker 1: Dr Hayes and the nursing staff. We look forward to
Speaker 1: a week that is peaceful and productive. Our e C T.
Speaker 1: Psychle will get underway momentarily. Please tend to any personal
Speaker 1: business you need to finish up before we get started.
Speaker 1: It's Monday, September and it's going to be a glorious day.
Speaker 1: Good morning, miss Wilbourne. And how are we today, Charlotte?
Speaker 1: Oh fine, that's great. Mhm. Is there something more on
Speaker 1: your mind? No, No, everything's just fine. Okay. Well, as
Speaker 1: you can see, I've got a lot of paperwork to
Speaker 1: sort through before Monday and e c T is about
Speaker 1: to begin. Yes, Monday morning is well, Monday morning is
Speaker 1: my time for one on one time with Dr Hayes remembers.
Speaker 1: Has there been a schedule change because you said you're
Speaker 1: about to start ECT and I don't know if there's
Speaker 1: enough time. There's been a slight change of schedule, Okay, Okay.
Speaker 1: Being a new patient and someone who's been put here
Speaker 1: by the state, Karen is going to command more than
Speaker 1: her share of doctor Hayes's attention for a while at least.
Speaker 1: How is that fair? I beg your pardon, I said,
Speaker 1: how is that fair? Charlotte? Please don't take it personally.
Speaker 1: Don't get upset. I'm not upset. I'm sorry, I'm not upset.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm really I'm really not okay, I'm not. Just
Speaker 1: bear with us, Charlotte, you'd be doing both Dr Hayes
Speaker 1: and myself a great consideration, if you'd just be patient.
Speaker 1: I only want to help. I know that Charlotte and
Speaker 1: you always are so helpful. I just don't want to
Speaker 1: ear no, not at my own expense. Why don't I
Speaker 1: talk to Dr Hayes later today? Tell him what a
Speaker 1: generous thing you did by giving up your interview times
Speaker 1: so that Karen could get the treatment she needs. Let
Speaker 1: him know that this is a sacrifice you were willing
Speaker 1: to make sure. How would that be, I guess that
Speaker 1: would be. I'll do it as soon as the word
Speaker 1: it's clear after e C t Okay, okay, how are
Speaker 1: we doing? Burder? Just fine. I've almost sorted through today's
Speaker 1: schedule and wondered if Charlotte, yes, will you excuse us please?
Speaker 1: Of course, sorry, thank you doctor. She's worried that Karen
Speaker 1: has taken her place on the interview schedule this morning.
Speaker 1: We can't let us start getting overly sensitive again or
Speaker 1: we'll never get her off the ward. Thank you for
Speaker 1: your patients. Ladies. We're ready to begin, and we'll start
Speaker 1: with Roberta and Carol. Please come up a joke back
Speaker 1: Stanley Brown, Asian managers here with me, Are you ready
Speaker 1: for the job? Favorite? And I love how um relationship
Speaker 1: with your Yeah? All right, well when you to sign
Speaker 1: what you want to say to me, come on back.
Speaker 1: If you think you can seduce Dr Hayes and get
Speaker 1: what you want, forget it. He's a good man, better
Speaker 1: than the likes of you. Do you know about good man?
Speaker 1: I know a good man when I see one. I
Speaker 1: am married to the most wonderful man in the world,
Speaker 1: and I'm privileged, privileged to be the patient of one
Speaker 1: of the finest doctors in the profession. You know him
Speaker 1: that well, do you? I do? Stop laughing? Why are
Speaker 1: you laughing? You can put your cloths away, Charlotte. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna stee you your beloved doctor away from you.
Speaker 1: That's not all You're welcome to him. I'm just playing
Speaker 1: the game. What game? The survival game? We do it
Speaker 1: all the time on the outside. Figure out how a
Speaker 1: man wants you to act, and then react accordingly. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying let him own you. Just make him think
Speaker 1: he owns you, and by yourself the freedom to operate independently.
Speaker 1: Don't let you change you. Don't let any man change you. Oh, Karen,
Speaker 1: You'll never get out of here with that out of
Speaker 1: wake up, Buttercup, I figured out more about your doctor
Speaker 1: Hayes in two weeks than you have in two years.
Speaker 1: Two years, Charlotte, listen, I know doctor Hayes better than
Speaker 1: he knows himself. That is ridiculous. Educated man, good Christian man,
Speaker 1: that's right, bursting at the scenes. Someone like him won't
Speaker 1: come out and say what he wants, but he'll drop hints.
Speaker 1: He tries to find a way around the moral and
Speaker 1: ethical barricades so his conscience can stay clean while his
Speaker 1: ding dong gets nice and dirty. Go on, oh, you've
Speaker 1: noticed something, Harry. We don't have much time a brute
Speaker 1: like graph. You know exactly what he wants, so you're
Speaker 1: always prepared. But a man like Hayes, he keeps his
Speaker 1: desire hidden, buried so deep inside of himself that he
Speaker 1: doesn't even know it himself, and when it finally starts
Speaker 1: to use out, it won't come out through ordinary channels.
Speaker 1: You're disgusting just because you're a whore. Don't try to
Speaker 1: seme your doctor Hayes with raking woman. The most dangerous
Speaker 1: creeps on the street aren't the pimps and the drug addicts. No, No,
Speaker 1: the real degenerate is the do Gootter, the White Knight,
Speaker 1: the Reforma. You think I'm saying this to be cruel
Speaker 1: to hurt you? Why else to warn you? Stupid? Elaine
Speaker 1: and Charlotte please come up. Don't call me stupid. Okay,
Speaker 1: poor choice of words, but I'm only trying to explain
Speaker 1: to you for for your Hey, Charlotte, come on, we're waiting.
Speaker 1: Come on, Charlotte, Charlotte, you're going out there. You are, Charlotte,
Speaker 1: It's not like you to keep us waiting. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but I was talking to Karen and she up on
Speaker 1: the gurney. What happened, Karen, Karen, she was saying terrible
Speaker 1: things about Dr Hayes, comparing you. Oh well, she was
Speaker 1: making terrible insinuations about you. She was implying, you're going
Speaker 1: to start on this again. No, no, I think she's
Speaker 1: up to something. Listen, listen. I think she's going to
Speaker 1: try and trick you. Now, Charlotte, I am trying to
Speaker 1: be helpful. I know you are, sweetie, by down on this. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're set. Give Karen and Neva please come up here.
Speaker 1: Pending it all in your letters. Car That's why a
Speaker 1: special my churn already. What were you saying to Charlotte
Speaker 1: just now, you know, girl talk? She seemed upset? Is
Speaker 1: that my thoughts? I won't have you hurting her. Okay,
Speaker 1: we won't allow it. Jesus right, Charlotte, what's going on coming?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry? Okay, that's hop up on the gurney. Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 1: What was that all about? What what were you saying
Speaker 1: to Charlotte? That head her so upset? Really? I think
Speaker 1: Charlotte was feeling a little jealous. Her emotions got the
Speaker 1: better of her. Would you say that's accurate, Karen, Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 1: Uh huh wow. Let's keep the female hysteria to a minimum, Shelly, yes,
Speaker 1: Doctor brite down on this, okay. Set The Control Group
Speaker 1: is a production of How Stuff Works, written and directed
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