WEBVTT - Questlove Supreme: Common & Pete Rock 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:10.240 Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio, Good People, 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:12.399 part of People in the Place. But this is Quest 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:15.760 Love Supreme, great episode today. I call it the Summit 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:21.400 Meeting episode our two guests. Is definitely what the doctor ordered. 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:26.960 And you always hear of titans meaning to collaborate, but 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:34.279 they never do or sometimes titans get together, and in 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:39.839 my opinion, the results is uh, you know, quasi diminish returns. 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:43.400 I won't name any names, but I will say that's 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:47.480 not the case for the project known as the Auditorium 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:51.640 Volume one, which I believe I guess off the top, 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:54.560 I can say that the Auditorium Volume one is it's 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:58.280 a fifteen song journey that fits like a hand in glove, 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:02.720 as if these two were collaborating all their lives, you know, 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:05.399 the we're all soul beats, the witty lyricism. But it's 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:09.440 also shows you how much they've matured in their three 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:13.280 decades in the game, because this is probably, in my opinion, 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:16.959 one of the most soulful offerings that Pete has offered. 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:19.960 And you know, as far as Commons lyricism is concerned, 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:22.840 you know, I love the fact that, in addition to 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:26.960 his couples, you know he's adding in dashes of metaphysical 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:29.959 talking there, which is of course, you know, it's the 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:33.920 result of growing up, you know what I mean of adulting. 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:37.280 That's what I say. I believe that this particular album 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:41.920 will spark a renaissance because you know, there's also the 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:46.119 Primo Nas album to come out soon everyone's waiting for. 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:48.320 I hear all this talk about the Snoop and Dre 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:51.600 album and how incredible it is, and of course Daylight 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:55.280 is also collaborating with Primo and Pete and not to 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:58.560 be outdone. You know, my band has been sitting on 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:01.280 the sidelines watching all this zactn't happening, and you know. 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:04.080 It's made us so yeah, let's go. 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:07.800 Oh, I will say it is made to reek Into 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.440 wrote seven songs in one day. We have not done 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:13.360 that since our second album. This is not about us. 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:18.079 This is about our guest today, welcome Common p Rock 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:20.280 two Supreme Beats. 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:23.680 Can I just say, I know it's not about that today, 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:27.799 but it sounds like the fiftieth has birthed a lot, right, 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:29.560 because I know A birthed y'all two. 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:31.799 But those other projects that a Mire mentioned nose sound 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:33.560 like that all happened. 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:33.919 At the same time. 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:37.880 Yeah, yeah, Well the fiftieth I can't say it birthed 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:40.799 me and Pete, but it was like I heard Kareem 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:43.880 Riggins that played me some peak beats like during the pandemic, 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:45.560 and I was like, man, I gotta get out with Pete. 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:47.600 So I reached out to him and he was We 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:50.880 was connected. But I will say that the fiftieth just 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:55.000 made me realize how much people love this culture and 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:59.239 it is really alive. It's for people like what I 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:02.000 Miya said, it's people that come out with stuff and 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:03.840 we don't say all that ain't that ain't what we 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:06.639 like or whatever Peter say it in on Life. For sure, 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:13.080 Pete don't play, but cats, you know, didn't come out 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:16.079 and say, man, we really really looking for the hip 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:18.919 hop that we loved. But the fifty did that. It 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:23.399 kind of just reinvigorated and like recharged and just kind 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:26.600 of made me remember how much I loved this music. 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.480 So it was like Pete was, it was divine timing. 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:31.400 As far as I'm concerned, Pete, can you. 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:33.080 Talk about I feel like I want to hear more 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:34.560 from you when it comes to the fiftieth two and 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:36.800 what that meant for you in that journey of last year. 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:39.960 I mean for me, it was great because I have 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:44.400 so much experience and before I even started doing music 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:49.040 and being successful with that, I had so much early experience, 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:53.000 you know, in hip hop. So for the fiftieth to come, 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:59.280 the celebration was so like deeply loved. And I'm the 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.080 type of person that that's so dedicated to what I 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.920 do because I love it passionately, you know what I mean. 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:12.760 And so everything that came with the fiftieth celebration, you know, afterwards, 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:16.000 being calm and hooked up and here we are today 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:21.400 and we made this album and it's a great, great album, 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:24.880 and I think it will inspire people for sure. 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:31.560 Before hip hop, the idea of a young person having 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:35.320 an opinion or a point of view, you know, as 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:40.000 kids were often taught to speak when spoken to minds 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:43.880 your business, not have an opinion. And you know a 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:46.760 lot of that is not just like you know parents 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:49.720 who in the finger thing. You know, a lot of 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:54.400 that is just post emit till trauma, like not draw 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:56.960 attention to yourself so that you don't get killed or hurt. 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:01.360 And then hip hop comes along. Suddenly the opinions of 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:07.839 a teenager, the opinions of a young person matters, and suddenly, 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:10.520 you know, we saw this ass like a young man's game, 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:12.120 like kids, you know what I mean, like if you're 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:19.560 between seventeen and thirty six when you say matters. Even 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.640 though I put hip hop in the five year timeline 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:27.080 in my book, I feel like we're the first generation 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:33.600 in hip hop that will be able to define adulting 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:36.120 in a way that won't seem like an eye roll 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:39.200 or an eye sore, you know, because there's nothing more 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:46.200 than watching like your longtime favorites try to get back 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.440 in the game, and no, this is like all types 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:52.600 of music, all genres of music, you know. You know, 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:57.520 I've been very vocal about my princes opinions on the internet, 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:01.240 So that's an example of like, okay, well he rides 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:03.279 to the level where you know those first ten years 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:07.760 where everything was unbeatable. You know, I've had opinions on that, 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:12.280 but I will say that I think this album is 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:18.800 a great example of how to be yourself and still 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:24.280 sound like fresh. You know, I commend to both of you. 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:26.360 It was an answer back to what Andre said about 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:28.400 there's nothing else to talk about. I was like, rash 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:30.360 found all this stuff. I mean, what are you saying? 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:34.000 Like, well, you know I love Dre three Thoullars. Yeah, 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:37.239 but everybody is you know where they are. It's times 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:39.360 in raphell. I was like, man, what am I going 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.360 to say? But then I just got spark man. I mean, 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.720 it's like to be honest. Tarik is one of the 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:49.479 people that like consistently reminds me that, man, this is infinite. 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:51.440 Like he said something to me at the Ruth's Picnic 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:54.039 ten years ago. I was like, man, I've been stuck. 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:57.280 He was like, Nigga just rap man. He was like, 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:00.080 you didn't put all these years in just rap. That 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:02.920 always stuck with me. But I mean, I think what 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:05.719 you said is super important. Like you know, for years 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:10.480 we have been like just for survival reasons from you know, 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.880 the slave trauma just taught to be like okay, not 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:17.080 say too much. And but hip hop gave us that 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.640 that thing to say, like like hip hop for me, 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:22.800 I mean, I guess for all of us gave us 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.680 a way to find and express ourselves in ways Like 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.320 I was, I'm saying things in rap that I even 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:32.080 don't even know. I felt. It's almost like my own therapy. 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:34.920 Sometimes when I hear my songs, I'm like, man, I 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.520 said that, I feel that. And it also gave me 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.360 my Muhammad Ali, my way to be Muhammad Ali. Muhammad 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:43.160 Ali was always one of my heroes because man, he 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:45.440 was just speaking like I'm bold, I'm beautiful, I'm black. 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:48.400 It was like speaking things into existence, and he had 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:50.960 a higher purpose. And I was like, man, that's what 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.440 rap started to do for me as I started to 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:56.880 find myself. But I want to say that what you're 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:59.800 saying about growing older, it was it was a scary thought. 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:01.840 It first to be like, man, what am I gonna 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:04.000 do in my thirties and forties, Like that's what I 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:07.880 used to think. And we just didn't know because we 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:11.520 didn't We are that generation and thank god, some of 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:13.480 the things that I was just looking at all of us, 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:16.520 I was like, man, we great. I'm grateful that we 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:18.280 had some of the things that our parents taught us. 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:20.920 But we discovered new things, whether it's eating healthy, whether 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:24.320 it's therapy, whether it's you know, just meditation, just all 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:24.880 these new. 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:28.000 Things rediscovered and acted like it was new because all 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:30.160 that stuff you just mentioned, there you go. 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:32.600 There, you go that is very true, Like you could 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:36.200 probably go to ancient comedic things and we knew these things. 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:39.240 So so that being said, rediscovering it, but the fact 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:43.839 that we applying that allows us to like stay like 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:46.959 not just young, because it's like, now, hey, I'm fifty 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.720 two years old, but I still like spirit is young. 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:52.719 I'm taking care of myself and I'm also seeking to 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:55.000 grow as an artist. That's one thing I kind of 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:57.920 want to ask p and you I'm here, Like when 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:01.160 I heard peats beats, I'm here, you listen. We both 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.640 know that it could be producers that have come from 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:08.640 different eras a sound is in that era, right, I 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:12.559 heard piece beats. I was like this, dude, is this 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:13.120 is new? 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:18.880 This is like I don't like new pell reinvention, Pete. 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:21.840 How did you get to that point and not stay 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:26.559 in that era of like, Okay, I'm from that era 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:29.000 and I know what good is to me, but to 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:31.760 create like the sound and still feels fresh and new, 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:32.480 you know. 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.120 Part of me kind of wanted to hear one just 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:38.719 rhyming with biz reminder, like I was waiting for it, 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.680 like does that sound like gonna happen? Is it gonna happen? 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:45.880 I just kind of listened to all the new artists 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:48.959 and what they're doing and kind of like said, okay, 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:52.040 you know, let me step my game, hug. You know, 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:57.480 I'm like a band member, conductor, slash, you know, funk 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:00.760 dude in hip hop. Right, So I just kind of 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.679 added that with what they like, and then came with 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.679 some of the aura of the nineties and some of 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:10.000 what I do and something a little different from mixed in. 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:11.040 You know what I'm saying. 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:15.760 Well, one, okay, let me ask the questions so I 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:22.120 don't wake up the sleeping bear in the cave. From 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:27.000 a legal standpoint, from one to ten, how much of 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:31.280 a nightmare was it to bring this album to the public. 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:34.800 From a musical standpoint, that means so much cool? Okay, 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:36.800 So here's it all right, all right, let me bring 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:40.400 it down for year without so the thing that makes 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:44.559 this album special there's a period starting in ninety six 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:48.640 ninety seven in which like, first, I mean the idea 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:53.520 of chopping when you hear like, uh, producers like chopping 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:59.719 and flipping stuff. Mostly, I would say that flipping and 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:04.240 check and was kind of a way to really be creative. 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:07.360 In other words, like okay, hey, remember that old James 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:10.360 Brown sample that you've heard time and time again from 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:12.160 this rapper and that rapper, and this rapper and that 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:14.880 rapp and this rapper. Well, I'm going to present it 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:20.640 and jumble it up and reinvent it. And as at 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.160 first it was like for sport, but then I realized 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:27.839 after ninety seven, it's almost for survival. Because sometimes think 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:32.319 thing of like what gospel music was to our ancestors, 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:35.920 like to them, it is gospel music, but to us 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:39.319 it was GPS instructions on how to get freedom. So 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:45.520 a lot of our producer titans who made their name 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:50.360 in what we call a four bar loop, you know, 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:54.400 in other words, I'm going to take these six seconds 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:56.400 of a song and build the song on top of that, 0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:01.319 suddenly they were forced to find other means to make 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:05.280 music because the clearance nightmare of it all just became 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:08.360 too much to deal with. So a lot of our 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:12.800 beloved producers of the Pete Rock Ilk, of the Large 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:16.520 Professor ilk, of the Tippin' aali ilk, you know, who 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:20.920 rely on loops, were sort of put in a position 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.800 where they had Some people made the adjustment, like Primo 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:27.840 has made the art of what we call stabbing. Stabbing 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:31.599 is if you take a part of a song and 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:35.439 it's that song is like an exclamation point or a 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:39.280 musical atomnopia, you know what I mean, Like taking a 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:42.959 noise where you don't know where it came from. Very 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.000 few producers can do that all day. But for a 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:49.280 lot of producers who made their name in loops, the 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:51.800 first thing I noticed in this album was like, holy shit, 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:56.040 Like some of these songs have two or three loops 0:12:56.120 --> 0:13:00.520 on top, which can be quasi costly or whatever. So like, 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:02.640 how did it feel for you, Pete, to actually just 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:07.160 make a collection of music that was created in a 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:09.160 non defensive way, Like what was it like just to 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:12.480 be in that mind state of bringing the loop back? 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:18.520 Well, I exercised my air a whole lot just playing records, 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:20.280 you know what I'm saying, Just playing them over and 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.440 over and over again, and then just having that passion 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.360 to wanting to make music right because I was a 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:29.319 fan of Marley Maul and Nowie T and Teddy and 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:32.040 I wanted to always know who was the man behind 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:33.719 the music, you know what I'm saying, who was the 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:37.480 guy making it happen. And so with that passion and 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:41.360 ambition you know, I think that drove me to kind 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:46.880 of like, you know, make the loop and the drums 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:49.360 match the way I would want it, you know what 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:51.920 I'm saying. And it worked out, you know what I'm saying. 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:55.199 It worked out for me, and I just kept practicing that, 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.520 kept practicing that, and then boom, all of a sudden, 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:00.439 I got this, you know what I'm saying. And that's 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:04.120 how it happened for me. And then everything that came 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:05.640 to me was easy for me to do. 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.520 You know, so even in your spare time, like by 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:10.679 the time I got the game, not even by the 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:12.280 time I got the game, but by the time I 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:16.000 like got my first twelve hundred or whatever, you know, 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:17.760 it was already like I mean, by the time I 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:21.000 really felt like, okay, I'm making beats whatever, it was 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:23.760 like ninety eight ninety nine. So it's you know, you 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:27.720 Dilla pretty much like y'all were chopping shit. So my 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:31.080 entry was the chopping game and really relying on the 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.920 musicianship or the roots to fill in the blinks. 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:39.160 The chopping game came like mid hip hop, right because 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:42.600 now we was playing with it so much, we will 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:46.240 find in ways that sounded iller, you know, when you 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.520 did it either backwards or just did it like a 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.160 jigs or a puzzle and you just played around with this. 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:55.240 Oh oh oh, it just happened like that, you know. 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.320 And today with all equipment they got, now it's easier 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:02.560 and much faster. But like in the twelve hundred Days, 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:06.920 it was chops, right, it was chops. But we would 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:10.960 take the best parts that we knew would match and 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:13.120 just rock with those, you know what I'm saying. 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:17.360 So what is your preferred method of like building your 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:22.000 own instruments or the method of letting loops play out. 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:24.480 That's kind of what we was doing, you know, but 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:26.800 we was just doing it with the drum machine. 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:27.040 Man. 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:30.240 I know how to play bass with the drum machine 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:31.080 really good. 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:31.400 You know. 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:35.240 I know how to mock records really good. You know 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:39.320 that's come from my ear and exercising all the records 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:42.800 I heard in my life, and you know, learned how 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:44.800 to mock that, you know what I'm saying. With the 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.800 whether it was with the twelve or the NPC, you know, 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:51.160 I'm really good at that. But the guitar, I don't 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:53.480 know how to play the bass guitar. I don't know 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:55.960 how to play the guitar. But I definitely know it's 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:59.200 just like it comes like pluses for me, man, how 0:15:59.280 --> 0:15:59.840 the bass go. 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:02.640 This is when I remind our audience to go back 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:05.960 in the QLs classics and listen to the Pete Rock episode. 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:09.280 Get to know it, get to know God. Don't remind 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:10.120 me of shut him down? 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:16.280 Man? All right? 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:18.800 So when Pete told the story of making public enemy 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:23.080 shut him down, which the shortest version was, he overslept, 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:25.360 he was late to the studio. He just looked on 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:29.720 the floor and you know the four records that made 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:33.080 that one remix, which that one remix? 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:34.000 I don't believe it. 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:37.200 Not only do I believe it, I've tested that theory, 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:41.560 and once I did the research on other songs, I 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:45.800 will say almost sixty percent of like the songs that 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:50.320 have have changed our lives or whatever, they were all afterthoughts. 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.160 Like seriously, when you when you said that, I thought 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:56.360 about you. You basically said, you late to the studio, 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:59.400 you saw four records on the floor, you picked it 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.120 up through this in and and hair what y'all think? 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:08.080 And it changed people's lives and what I realized. And 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:11.240 Quincy Jones also makes this part of his thing. He 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:15.040 has a thing called no paralysis through analysis. In other words, 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:19.440 the more you overthink some shit, the more you get paralyzed. 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.720 And you don't come up with results because you're overthinking it, 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:27.159 whereas you just do it. And that's when you're in 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:31.880 your natural state. And so suddenly, maybe like three weeks 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:35.360 after that interview, I got to wrap to Little Steven, 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:38.760 you know, guitarist of the East Street Band and you know, 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:43.680 on the Sopranos, and he was telling me like he's 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:47.880 obsessed with that theory. He's obsessed with songs that sold millions, 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:50.920 that were made in under five minutes. And literally he 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:54.400 he gave me a whole like glossary, Like he said, 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:56.920 Theisley Brothers had like ten minutes left in the studio, 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:00.200 they like spend the whole session on one song, and like, 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:02.200 well we got ten minutes left for hey, let's do 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:05.639 that church song. And then suddenly shall gets burn or 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:11.000 or I think they made tequila in like two minutes. 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:14.080 Some of the biggest songs of our lives were just 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:17.840 like do whatever one, two, three, four, and then like, 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:23.280 h So that theory works. I've been testing that all day. 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:25.879 You know, and that's I think I caught window of 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:29.720 it in my version. And then meeting James Brown when 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:32.160 I was seven years old, that probably did something. 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:35.800 To me, right that that night tell me about I 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:37.239 no tell us? 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:39.720 Oh, me and my younger brother. 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:42.800 My moms took us to a concert in New York 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:46.560 and mam vernon a place called the Left Bank, and 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:50.200 you know Lank Collins, I remember seeing her. I remember 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:55.280 seeing Bobby Bird and the JBS, and you know, during 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:59.240 the break of the show, you know, my mom said, 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:01.640 come with me, and she took us backstage to meet 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:04.280 James and he and he grabbed my hand and held 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:08.560 it and said, God bless you, and damn they pissed 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:09.080 on myself. 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:09.240 Bro. 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:15.440 My younger brother grab and you know, and and we 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:17.600 we were in disbelief. 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:18.280 You know. 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:21.240 I think that affected you for life. Yo. That was 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:26.960 like being annoyed. Look, wow, that's being annoyed, Yo. 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:29.520 That's annoyed. That was that was the golden touch. But 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:31.520 you know what that's the I mean when you were 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:35.160 just talking about that feeling, that natural stuff and the music, 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:37.600 I was just I can't help but think about James 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:40.480 Brown and that that that's in fay Line. All that 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:44.800 music is that and still to this day. Like one 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:46.879 of the lines that people say the most on the 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:49.359 song I did, I hadn't even written the line and 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:52.639 it's ticket tire tic a ticket to tie, And I'm like, 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:56.000 what what the hell is this? Like like people say 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:58.320 this to me like like I can wrap the whole 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:00.200 light and they might not know something. They know some 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:05.800 of the word talking about when I say that when 0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:07.640 I put that, I put that mic out to the crowd, 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:10.280 they say that, it's like it just showed me that man, 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:14.920 that that was that not overthinking it and just allowing 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:18.240 it to come out is exactly what the music should be. 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:19.840 And Pete, I was just gonna say. 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:21.399 Sit there for a second on that James Brown and 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:24.560 that Failie tip too because of all these parallels, because 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:27.720 this album, when listening to the different messages and the 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:30.040 things that y'all are saying, it's. 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:30.840 A lot of parallels. 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:33.600 I was wondering if y'all realized, like how perfect it 0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:36.800 is to day to hear. 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:41.120 That album, like to like y'all to day wow Wow, 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:44.520 like like Destiny, Hope, Faith Today. 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:47.760 I think we just didn't even think about nothing but 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:50.800 just doing what he liked. He picked beats, he liked, 0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:52.520 and I was just like he had boom and he 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:55.640 came back with a full song and we just said 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:56.639 all right, we're gonna use this. 0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:59.920 We're gonna use this, We're gonna use this, and came together. 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:01.520 Do you still have the basement? 0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:06.000 Yes, oh, not in Mount Vernon, but it's up in 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:06.719 Rockland now. 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:09.879 Damn no more Mount Vernon basement. 0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:13.600 But it's still but it's still got the vibe. It 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:15.480 got the vibe. Man. When I got out there, I 0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:18.720 was like, so you physically had to go to his cribbing, Yeah, 0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:22.320 physically into his crib and sat down and see first 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:24.480 thing I seen in there. I was like, you know 0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:27.600 how certain things is just signs. I sat down, I 0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:30.200 saw all his records and he had his dealer book 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:32.240 right there. It was like the deal of book was 0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:37.920 right there, and his dog Joy was chilling, and I 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:40.639 was like, man, And people was playing beats and then 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:43.160 they would play some records and I was like, man, 0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:47.000 this is what I always loved about making music, Like 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:49.680 being in the midst. I mean, you know, we being 0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:52.480 in that studio and like so like to be around 0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:56.480 Pete and just be sitting there like just vibing. We 0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:58.960 started to talk about life. You know, that's how we 0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:02.400 form brother That's why we're brothers now to this day. 0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:04.680 Like I mean, because of what we formed in the 0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:07.639 studio and outside of the studio. But then when we 0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:11.160 in that space, it's like, man, that's when the music 0:22:11.240 --> 0:22:13.760 starts to become just beautiful because it's just like we 0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:14.920 going through the process. 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:17.800 How many records y'all go through in this moment you 0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:18.840 went to the basement. 0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:20.639 When you went to peace, I was just playing a 0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:21.439 bunch of albums. 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:24.080 I was like, I knew I had some dope records, 0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:26.320 and I was like pulling out the dopest ones I 0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:28.600 could find, and it was like playing it for him. 0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:31.480 Like, Yo, listen to this. He was like, Yo, you 0:22:31.560 --> 0:22:33.959 gotta hook that one up. And I play him another one. 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:35.679 He was like, Yo, you gotta hook that one up. 0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:37.879 Play them another one the same ship, you know what 0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:38.160 I mean. 0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:41.639 Like, and then sometimes you just send me videos and 0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:45.560 you know, here be messing with a loop and it's 0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:47.520 funny because I wish I could see it. It's like 0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:49.919 you could see him bouncing to the beat on the problem. 0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:55.960 You see some of those right, And it's like I 0:22:56.000 --> 0:22:57.840 would hear it and be like, wow, this is this 0:22:58.040 --> 0:23:00.200 is amazing. He just gave me the music is a 0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:02.800 cool like ocean to do what I wanted to do. 0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:05.879 Like all the experiences that we experienced in life, I 0:23:05.960 --> 0:23:08.720 felt like, man, I'm free now. I ain't gotta like 0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:12.679 I'm referencing Steve. I'm referencing the six million dollar man. Now. 0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:14.600 I know, don't know young people know what the million 0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:19.200 dollar man is, but who cares? Like I'm like, I'm 0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:21.600 gonna be at MC and say the things and that's 0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:24.960 I mean, coming up doing resurrection at Kennibar Dollar. I 0:23:25.080 --> 0:23:28.159 wasn't thinking about like, man, does this person understand this? 0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:28.440 And that. 0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:31.200 I'm like, I'm referencing all this Chicago shit and just 0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:34.640 saying stuff that my homies noses. So I was like, man, 0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:37.359 let me be free and not try to try to 0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:40.960 cater to to anybody like and just write and peak 0:23:41.040 --> 0:23:44.240 the same way. Because at one point P said, yo, Ross, 0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:46.840 you know I could do if you want something else, 0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:49.120 I could give you something else, even a lot of music. 0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:53.080 I said, no, no, no, I want loops. Looks a 0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:55.840 big risk, bro, but we got through it. We do. 0:23:56.200 --> 0:24:00.159 I want loops, chops whatever you know, like we're doing samples, bro, like, 0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:02.520 let's do what we do and like being our home 0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:03.680 life fell home. 0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:06.199 To me by the way, Rosh. One of my favorite 0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:10.680 apps on my iPhone is the inflation calculator. Today this 0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:13.840 six million dollar Man would actually be the thirty million, 0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:16.840 nine hundred and fifty eight thousand dollars man. So it's 0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:22.520 good to know if we do the reboot forty million 0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:22.959 dollar Man. 0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:29.000 Yeah, basically calendar apples to start there an inflating calendar app. 0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:32.639 Yeah, all the time I look at inflation calculators just 0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:35.720 to see what what the price differences was. Wait, Pete, 0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:40.080 so when we did the tonight show, you brought out 0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:46.680 your inner DiAngelo by pulling out your scusy device, which 0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:51.720 is something that I've not seen Stevens laugh. 0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:53.399 Believe how many of them I have? 0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:53.800 Bro? 0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:54.760 What's the song? 0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:55.399 Is that? 0:24:55.520 --> 0:25:00.320 The like a zip drive? Yees discusy zip drive Like 0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:04.320 so basically like I could make an album in this 0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:07.280 iPhone of I want. That's how far like technology is 0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:10.080 advanced where I can make beats on my phone now crazy, 0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:13.000 But you know back in two thousand and two thousand 0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:15.560 and one, you would have to buy zip drives, which 0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:18.359 only holds a little bit of information and if you 0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:22.320 brought a scuzzy I mean that can can hold maybe 0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:25.959 maybe half a terra byte, you know what I mean. 0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:29.000 I mean, of course, now on our mac Book pros, 0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:32.119 you can rule the world on your computer. But I 0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:36.119 wanted to know, like, what is your preferred method of 0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:39.399 creating joints? Like what did you use primarily on this album? 0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:44.800 The NPC two thousand XL So you graduated to the 0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:45.560 two thousand XCEL. 0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:47.400 Yeah, I'm on the X now. 0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:52.359 I'm on the new X standard with the stems and everything, 0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:55.760 and I'm still learning it. And I got some nice 0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:59.359 beats on it now, but I'm still learning it. You know, 0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:02.960 I want to get it mastered before I start doing so. 0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:06.879 I was going to say, because now it's to me, 0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:08.680 I think it's going to be a breathless race of 0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:11.399 the finish now that we have technology that will allow 0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:15.720 you to remove drums if you want to, or just 0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:18.240 take the baseline if you want to, because I know 0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:22.320 there's always like that one sample, like say your love 0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:25.600 for the Ohio players, you know, if you can find 0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:30.480 a way to sort of astract the Juni Marrison's ad 0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:34.639 libs off of song and just have the bass alone. 0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:35.520 And you know what I mean. 0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:38.119 Like, I'm gonna give you a great example of this, 0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:44.480 Fortunate the song on the Auditorium volume on song Fortunate 0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:49.560 We Did. How I got to be was Brazilian record 0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:52.960 played it. Listen to a part where I heard some 0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:56.880 bass and some things going on. I said, imagine the vocals. 0:26:57.200 --> 0:26:59.080 So I put it in my laptop. Put it in 0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:02.000 my laptop, I got the stems on my on my 0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:05.639 Serado thing and all I did was take the the 0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:07.000 vocal out and I got to beat. 0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:09.760 See, I don't feel alone now, see Steve, I'm not 0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:10.440 the only one. 0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:12.680 But but people wouldn't know where to loop it. So 0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:17.280 I looked at it. Yeah, I looped it in the 0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:20.639 right place and I was like, boom, wow, this is crazy. 0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:23.159 I had the singing going on in there. Then I 0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:24.240 took the singing out. 0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:28.199 And I was like, so, I screaming, okay, do another one. 0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:31.600 Look down. No, it's it's a game changer. 0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:31.800 Yo. 0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:36.359 I was thinking, oh, a lot of ship And I 0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:39.960 sent it to him and I used the drums everything 0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:41.600 in that loop, the drums. 0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:44.840 I just brought the drums out. That's the that's the 0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:45.479 racket bro. 0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:49.119 That method is game changing where you know, I mean 0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:51.639 there's other you know, there's Ableton and all that stuff, 0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:55.040 but for me, like I just put the join in 0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:58.840 my serado. It's so old school, but all right. So 0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:02.359 I talked to the Beastie Boys once and I didn't 0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:05.800 realize if you listen to that entire Paul's Boutique album, 0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:12.919 they did zero programming. They literally, one by one they 0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:16.240 would perfectly loop a drum track as their first track. 0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:20.439 You know, each song on Paul's Boutique was easily somewhere 0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:25.080 between eight to sometimes fifteen samples, you know, And I'm 0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:26.680 thinking they did it the regular way where they just 0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:29.920 put inside the drum machine and programmed it that way. 0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:34.000 Allah the Bomb Squad Nah, they literally would just take 0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:37.760 pieces all the records and loop them all together perfectly 0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:41.960 and then just auto edit it, which is the wildest 0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:43.800 way in my opinion, to make an album. 0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:47.800 But you know, it can be done. It could be done. 0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:48.959 I've seen it too. 0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:52.440 It could be done. So Rash, I wanted to ask you, 0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:55.920 so there's a point for the roots. In twenty ten, 0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:59.640 Rich challenged us to make what he called the Midlife 0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:05.360 Crisis record. Yeah, where you know, no rapper wants to 0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:09.600 talk about like being at a crossroads in their life 0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:13.880 or you know, the feeling of growing up or anything 0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:18.640 that would even remotely remind your audience that I'm not 0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:20.080 a twenty year old anymore. 0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:21.120 Yeah. 0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:26.600 Lyrically, how like, how did you wrestle with what exactly 0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:30.800 you wanted to bring across on the album in terms 0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:36.400 of your themes? And as Laia mentioned on so many people. 0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:38.360 This was one of the albums I had the least 0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:42.400 wrestling to do. And I think the freedom came about 0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:45.360 because once again, like being at the four tour and 0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:48.840 seeing like a stadium full of people, I'm like, man, 0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:52.240 it's people out there that want this. And also I 0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:55.040 was also like I did a couple I did a 0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:58.920 freestyle on on the la Leakers, and I got more 0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:01.200 calls about that any album I put out in the 0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:04.640 past ten years. So I was like, my I mean, 0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:07.440 you know, and I part of my gauge, my research 0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:08.600 is when my homies called me. 0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:11.520 It reaches them, then you know it's real. 0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:15.680 That's when I know I'm doing something like they call 0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:18.360 me like yo ros that's dope, or they like a man, 0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:20.880 I might have to remind them I got something out, 0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:22.960 but when they really like something, they. 0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:25.440 Hitting me up like yo, So what do they say 0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:26.120 about this album? 0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:29.240 This is one of my best albums ever. Some said 0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:32.120 that it is my best and some was like, man, 0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:35.880 I can't believe you all made a classic in this era. 0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:39.720 But I mean, let's be clear. First, I want to 0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:42.800 give you yours, because man, you were the first person 0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:46.520 I sent the album to outside of me Pete and 0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:49.920 Jamie and people that was recording like basically. 0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:54.120 And I mean how hard it was to keep that secret? Yea, 0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:56.840 I remember literal least the first week he was like, hey, man, 0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:58.040 don't leave the ship and. 0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:01.160 What the we know? 0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:03.600 A mire And it's okay, we know because. 0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:12.720 I'm you Listen, I'm here is the best friend promo 0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:16.320 person you could ever have, meaning he ain't gonna let 0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:18.120 it lead to the public, but he go get into 0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:21.320 the right people. I saw that FaceTime you had with Preemo, 0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:29.760 like little snippets, but that got the buzz going. It 0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:32.760 ain't nothing like letting if I'm here feeling it. Yeah, 0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:35.400 but let me tell you the first thing, I'm here 0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:37.720 text me when he heard the album. But this is 0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:39.959 what first of all, I was sending it to him 0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:41.840 to listen to it because I want him to sequence 0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:44.920 the album. I want him to have that input. And 0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:48.360 and the first thing he said to me was, damn, 0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:51.920 I can't believe y'all did this ship like I was. 0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:55.080 He was like, yo, y'all, he was like, I got 0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:58.080 total confidence and people, right, I got total confidence in you. 0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:02.640 But this is beyond what I thought it's because. 0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:04.640 What's the part of me? Is it because of the label? 0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:06.600 Because I was curious too, like the label part of it, 0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:08.680 because I mean, I know as an artist, you know, 0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:11.200 everybody got their opinions on your ship. But it seems 0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:13.800 like this time y'all didn't have to worry about that 0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:14.440 part of it. 0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:20.040 Right, Yeah, I don't, man. See the last time I 0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:24.120 offered my two cents about a hip hop opinion, that 0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:28.040 shit started trending on Twitter. Okay, So wait, I will 0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:31.480 say this because I think that they even agree with it. 0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:38.320 All right, another no, no, no, listen Okay. In the 0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:42.880 case of Steel Dre, that's a great example of jay 0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:46.640 Z and Doctor Dre working together. However, jay Z and 0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:50.840 Doctor Dre have worked three or four times together, and 0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:54.320 I don't know if it's the pressure. It's almost like 0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:57.920 an All Star game. It's it's it's like if you're 0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:03.000 gonna have Kobe and Jordan ann Iverson and Magic Johnson 0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:07.440 and Shack. I mean, I'm just randomly naming. I'm surprised 0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:09.960 Steve's not starting pressed now. I'm impressed. 0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:10.560 Thank you. 0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:14.760 All day, keep going, thank you anyway. I love the 0:33:14.880 --> 0:33:21.160 sports anyway. The point was that their collaborations on Kingdom 0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:25.720 come and it didn't yield the magic that it should 0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:28.600 have yielded. But I think that's almost with every artist, 0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:31.640 Like when Stevie Wonder and Michael Jackson got together on 0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:33.720 the Bad Album that wound up being the. 0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:37.880 Exactly right right. 0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:44.960 I feel like it's too much pressure when two gods 0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:48.240 get together and you don't know because it's never gonna 0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:50.200 be fifty to fifty. It's going to be either sixty 0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:52.400 forty or seventy thirty, Like you don't know what it's 0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:55.600 going to be. And for me, this album, like I 0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:58.960 was just shocked that y'all probably got fifty to fifty 0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:03.440 on it, like m to me, it it established and 0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:07.280 and and reinvented Pete wait. I got to ask you, 0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:11.600 ro did Electronica have any influence on your floor with that. 0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:15.120 Let me say this, Jay Electronica has had some influence 0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:17.880 on me because he's dope, so it is inspired. I 0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:19.799 get inspired, but I hadn't. I wasn't listening to him. 0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:22.080 It was strictly that beat, and I was just having fun. 0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:25.160 I was actually riding from I was riding from Peace Kriby. 0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:27.879 It just gave me the beat and then and then 0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:30.920 you know, I was just riding home and them rhymes 0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:33.480 came to me like she knew me from the city. 0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:37.800 She knew I was fitty, she had power and maybe 0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:40.120 some sense like Citty, let's go up. 0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:44.879 But that's what I'm saying. Like any other MC would 0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:51.480 have just smothered the track with as much wordplay, the flex. 0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:55.000 But the fact that you did couplets and only asked 0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:58.320 about Jay Electronica because a lot on his album that 0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:02.680 he released in the Pandemic, he would allow himself to 0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:05.600 do a couplet like couplets and spaces and all that stuff, 0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:11.200 which usually mcs MCS, especially rock him, influence them. Seeds 0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:15.040 got to like make sure they pack in every ounce 0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:18.879 of space with words. And the fact that you were 0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:22.319 just playful with it. That to means the magic place, man, So. 0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:26.920 Listen, I gotta say all this experience like for me, 0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:31.040 like doing the like water for Chopper's doing the electric circuits, 0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:34.920 doing universal mind, like wrapping over different type of things. 0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:37.560 I'm learning and I'm seeking. I want to be better, 0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:41.400 so I don't like over wrapping stuff. I know at 0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:44.600 times I can overwrap, like and U MC's getting caught 0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:46.919 up in like I gotta be cool g on this shit. 0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:50.759 So let me you know. But I'm I'd rather be 0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:53.759 just an instrument. I'd rather be Maurice White or Q 0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:56.480 Tip or you know, like I want to be an 0:35:56.600 --> 0:36:00.200 instrument to it. Like like so I just now I 0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:03.200 just try to just allow the music to inspire me 0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:05.480 and get me going, you know. I mean I did 0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:07.759 the music. The music always inspire me. But now I 0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:11.239 think because of certain experienses, I know where the one is. 0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:12.640 I know where the one is. 0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:22.920 I mean, hey, I'm here, guess what four songs? You 0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:24.840 don't know where the one is. But I'll let that go. 0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:30.920 Where the one is at. That's the thing. 0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:33.279 I'm saying. 0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:34.879 Me and the men know where the one is at. 0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:38.799 You don't know a big deal to teach somebody where 0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:40.920 it's really at Like I just wanted to show him 0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:44.040 where it was really at so he gets a past. 0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:47.399 You know, I'm I'm there. We had like, we had 0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:49.880 that song called there is a Guy That's on the 0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:54.440 on the album I wrapped in a different space and 0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:58.160 Pete after a while, I was like, bro, that ain't 0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:00.360 where the rhyme should be. And I'm was like, bro, 0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:03.040 this is where it's supposed to be. Me and PJ. 0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:06.080 PJ wrote the hook. This girl PJ, who was incredible, 0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:09.440 she this is what I said, this is where it is. 0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:12.719 And he was like, bro, I made the beat. I'm 0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:17.000 from the school of James Brown. I know where to wan. Yo. 0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:22.919 We was going back and forth, Man, want this song? 0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:23.640 Do you come in? 0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:24.799 Does he come in on the one? 0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:27.640 He didn't come in and on the one at first 0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:31.040 at first, but you fixed it so that, yeah, I 0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:33.520 can understand because he's not the only one that I've 0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:36.400 dealt with that come in where they come in. And 0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:40.200 sometimes that's cool when you just make anything type of 0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:42.480 beat and you just like I just just just go 0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:43.360 just eat it. 0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:47.359 But at this this is our album. So I'm like, yo, hey, 0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:49.480 go to one right here. It's right here. He's like, nah, 0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:52.680 I wrote it like this. I'm like, but that's not 0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:53.600 We're the one for. 0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:55.680 Where it's that. 0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:58.239 So then it went A couple of days went by, 0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:00.640 A couple of days went by, say, yo, you know what, 0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:02.680 I'm gonna try it chill away. I'm gonna try it 0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:05.440 chill away. Then he sent it back the way it's 0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:07.120 supposed to be, and I said, they go to the 0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:07.680 song right. 0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:11.359 There, And he said, and you said what I mean, 0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:12.359 I guess that's good. 0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:14.719 I was like, I said, you don't you know what? 0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:17.320 You lived with it. You have to live right. I 0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:19.239 did have to live with it. But there's been many 0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:23.040 sessions where i'mre and James playing and they was like, rash, 0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:25.040 the one is here, man, don't be. 0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:29.080 You would have learned that on that Electric Circus is something. 0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:31.719 No, don't give James them props. James on know where 0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:36.320 the one is either, So yes, yo ps. 0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:38.160 I just want to say I'm glad y'all said the 0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:40.440 title of that song because shout out to a girl. 0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:42.200 I didn't know what accent she was saying God in, 0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:44.319 But y'all know that's an interesting way of saying there 0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:46.320 is a there's a business. 0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:54.400 Yeah, that's some real. That's some real Chicago slash Southern 0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:57.360 slash church. God, there's a god. God. 0:38:57.760 --> 0:38:59.520 I knew y'all did that purposely. I was like, y'all, 0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:01.680 y'all made her say, y'all say it like you say 0:39:01.719 --> 0:39:02.120 it at home. 0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:06.600 Okay, it was the south side Chicago. Yeah, that's what I'm. 0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:07.719 Saying, you say it at home. 0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:12.440 So the album title, why did you give it the 0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:17.200 title the auditorium? And also what was the significance behind 0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:22.120 using King's Theater in BK as your album cover? 0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:27.000 Well, auditorium listening, I was watching Smokey Robinson in an 0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:29.719 interview and he was talking about how he first wrote 0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:33.680 his first song and how it was no music. I mean, 0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:35.480 it was just music, it was no lyrics, and they 0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:38.239 was about to perform and they was in the auditorium 0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:40.160 and he was like asked his teacher could he write 0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:42.880 some words to it. That's how he began songwriting. And 0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:47.640 I was thinking, like, man, auditorium, Like that's where I 0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:50.719 started my first Like I got my first performance off too, 0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:53.600 like I was. It was breakdancing, but it was in 0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:56.440 my school auditorium and that's where I was part of 0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:59.080 a play at and Then later that day I rode 0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:02.480 past past the place this sit it was called auditorium, 0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:05.120 and I was like something about that word. I just liked, 0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:07.719 Like when I when I'm choosing titles, I like the 0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:11.200 sonically first, Like I mean how they sound like like 0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:13.719 water for chocolate or be like I wanted to. I 0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:16.920 like titles to sound like books sometimes too, like, So 0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:20.480 I was like, the auditorium, Ah, that could be dope. 0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:22.520 I kind of felt like it would be a place 0:40:22.600 --> 0:40:26.160 where we would invite people to our auditorium musically, like 0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:29.080 just so they can enjoy our art. But listen, the 0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:33.480 story goes, we get this title. Pete does his ad 0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:36.160 libs on Dreaming, and I'm super geek, like, I'm like, 0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:38.759 I got Pete rock ad libs. This is amazing, right 0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:43.080 Like on a Dreaming he says the Auditorium twenty four 0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:45.840 the auditorium, So this is like I'm gonna say he 0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:47.880 love the title, but he knew that was the title 0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:52.480 of the album. Fast forward four months later, Pete calling, hey, Man, 0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:59.160 I don't like the title the Auditorium no more. He said, Man, 0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:04.120 I don't think we can't call it the auditorial. I'm like, oh, no, man, 0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:07.880 please brood you want to call it. 0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:11.520 No, I can't say the titles because they're so dope 0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:15.880 somebody might steal it. But I had had a different 0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:19.120 title for it, and then, you know, we were going 0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:21.239 back and forth about the title, and then, you know, 0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:23.600 like the men we are, we just sat with it 0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:25.800 for a little bit and I saw his way in it, 0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:27.839 you know, and I said, you know what, as long 0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:30.600 as we could put volume one on the end of 0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:32.799 it so they'll know something more is coming. 0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:33.800 Rights. 0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:37.000 It worked out, though, You're not going to pull a 0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:40.240 haul on oas though, and never put out a part two? Yeah, exactly. 0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:43.920 How many records you already got on the part too? 0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:45.040 How many records put the part to you? 0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:45.960 I know y'all already got some. 0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:48.920 I can't be sitting on his music no more. So 0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:50.879 you know, I'm ready to give it to the world. 0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:55.320 But we already started dibbling and dabbling right now. He 0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:58.920 just sent me something today like ye to remind me Pete. 0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:00.840 I got I got a question now wanted to ask you, 0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:06.600 so premiere, actually let me hear it. I always wanted 0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:09.280 to know what do you do with the fail beats? 0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:10.000 Oh? 0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:13.800 You know what I mean? And Premiere has, Like I 0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:17.719 asked him, like, do you sometimes, like you know, when 0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:20.840 you're driving, do you do you hear drill music or 0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:23.880 a trap joint and be like, all right, let me 0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:26.880 try to sit I'll see what I do. Yeah, so 0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:32.560 Premiere gave me six. He gave me six very un 0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:39.160 premiere sounding joints, like straight up like eight oweight, drum machines, 0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:44.800 keyboards like whatever whatever elements that makes a primo. He 0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:50.000 took away. And you know it's weird, like I would 0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:54.200 say that at least for them. Joints sounded like, you know, 0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:58.279 I'm a I'm a big, big, big Loosens fan, you 0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:03.520 know what I mean. So it came off more like 0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:06.399 his eight to eight joints sounded more like some loose 0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:11.200 and shit and so like for you to challenge yourself, 0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:13.480 do you ever like have a thing where it's like, 0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:18.000 all right, well let me learn, Like have you ever said, 0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:19.560 all right, let me see if I can make trap 0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:22.880 ord that sort of thing you have eight o eight 0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:23.600 beats and ship. 0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:24.200 Yeah. 0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:25.960 I used to play around in the crib all the 0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:29.319 time just to see, you know, not to you know, pinch, 0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:31.840 just to pinch myself to make sure like you know, 0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:33.680 I can do what they're doing. 0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:35.919 It's it's as simple as cake. 0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:38.800 So I like to play around in the crib, and 0:43:38.960 --> 0:43:41.879 sometimes I'll play around to the point where I really 0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:44.800 make something, you know what I'm saying, Like, like I 0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:48.320 really make some fly shit and I'm like, yo, you know, 0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:50.840 trying to put it out or give it to somebody 0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:51.360 to here. 0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:54.480 Or so while I'm asking, do you think you'll ever 0:43:54.560 --> 0:43:59.640 make an avant garde, unpeat rock sounding album like a project? 0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:00.400 Well, I say a. 0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:02.800 Little bit of that, as like all the peastrumentals you 0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:05.000 ever heard, all the instrumental albums you ever heard, those 0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:07.040 are kind of not I wouldn't say failed beats, but 0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:08.439 just beats that weren't used. 0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:11.480 Yeah, but there's still non factor beats. 0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:13.720 Yeah, you can still call him non factor. 0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:17.800 Yeah, but I'm talking about just like crazy shit, like 0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:21.720 five to four meters shit, or you know, using drums 0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:23.880 you would never ever use in this Like Okay, So 0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:29.680 for this new roots album, Ashley's Roads clip to Me, yea, 0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:34.239 if you take rock him out the factor, Yeah, Ashlete's 0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:38.839 roachs clip to Me was never a desirable break beat, 0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:43.840 even though it's a classic break beat Ashley's Roads clip 0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:46.680 is the drum break that we know is Peyton full, 0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:53.120 but it's also pm Dorn's breakbeat Emf's unbelievable like girl, 0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:53.879 you know it's true. 0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:57.680 One thing about I learned from mally mal is how 0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:01.920 he his music to make it sound hella different. You know, 0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:06.200 they take in piece the president drums and make it 0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:11.320 sound totally different from the bridge. Right, Eric beats for President. 0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:14.439 It sounds totally different from the bridge. They don't sound 0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:16.399 the same. You ever listen to that, You ever really 0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:17.400 listen to the difference? 0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:21.040 Yeah, And he's he's presented and peached the President in 0:45:21.160 --> 0:45:23.360 ways that just sound different. 0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:25.600 And that's what I learned from him, which is hella 0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:29.120 important for hip hop and for you know, producers to 0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:32.200 know is to like how to disguise your music. 0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:36.640 So what's what's the one drum break that you feel 0:45:36.880 --> 0:45:40.800 is the the mountain that has not been fully climbed 0:45:40.880 --> 0:45:44.640 yet in terms of like flipping or like for me, 0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:46.400 for all the for all the allure. 0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:47.759 I tell people that. 0:45:50.120 --> 0:45:52.440 Okay, well I'll ask you for all the legend and 0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:57.680 the allure that we credit funky drummer to me. Impeach 0:45:57.760 --> 0:46:01.959 the President is the most used beat because a piece 0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:04.560 of the President me is almost like meat and potatoes, 0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:09.000 like the basic elements, whereas Funky Drummer to me is 0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:15.640 almost like it's sushi. It's well depending on your palette. Yeah, 0:46:16.080 --> 0:46:21.200 it's high art, delicious food that is not for everybody. 0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:24.279 Right, right, you're right about You're right about that. 0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:28.279 So like, have you have you ever figured out a 0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:32.160 way Well, I'm about to ask you fake and Jax 0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:34.520 not even fake no, no, no, not even with the 0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:36.520 meats President. I was about to say with Funky Drummer, 0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:40.560 but I totally forgot about your first ep. You successfully 0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:44.320 flipped Funky Drummer. I forgot, like you're the one person. 0:46:44.160 --> 0:46:46.240 That actually did it, yep, just a snap. 0:46:46.760 --> 0:46:50.719 So yeah, like, for you, what's the one taboo break 0:46:50.800 --> 0:46:53.320 beat that you have yet to flip and be like? 0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:54.839 All right, I'm a damn. 0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:57.560 It's just such a choice. It's hard to just pick one, 0:46:57.600 --> 0:46:58.240 but I'm gonna. 0:46:58.040 --> 0:47:00.840 Pick one real hard with nobody else could do it, 0:47:02.120 --> 0:47:02.480 you see. 0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:04.400 Yeah, but even if he does it, he does it, 0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:08.640 like right, that's true, that's true break b I mean 0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:11.080 some of you wouldn't tell, like Boogie Back or two 0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:12.319 thousand and one, or. 0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:16.719 I'll say boogie back, but then I also say substitution. 0:47:17.320 --> 0:47:22.080 Really yeah, yeah, but I mean just from like that's 0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:23.080 been used a lot too. 0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:26.239 It's been used a lot. I would figure that there's 0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:31.719 some other break that you know is your that you 0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:33.120 haven't climbed that mountain. 0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:34.920 Yet, But amir, is there one that you would like 0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:35.239 to hear? 0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:39.520 Maybe funkin delic all right, good old music? This is 0:47:39.640 --> 0:47:43.359 Connections album I used. I've been chopping that. I've been 0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:44.359 chopping good old music. 0:47:44.800 --> 0:47:46.840 Really yeah. If you listen to see. 0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:49.440 It's too much reverb on it for me to even consider. 0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:53.799 Like usually if a session is dry, then I feel 0:47:53.840 --> 0:47:55.200 like you can flip it on your own. But if 0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:57.520 it's so much reverb on there, Okay, yes, I know 0:47:57.600 --> 0:47:59.320 there's a lot of inside baseball. 0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:01.399 Speak on here. Sorry, I've been chopping that up. There's 0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:03.040 so many ways to do it, so. 0:48:03.680 --> 0:48:12.920 Damn okay, Pete. Before we wrap up tour wise, how 0:48:12.960 --> 0:48:15.239 are you guys doing the rest of this year? Like 0:48:15.360 --> 0:48:16.799 you're working on the tour. 0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:21.720 Yeah, we're going out on tour starting in late August. 0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:24.480 You know, we're gonna hit the Bluenow Festival and then 0:48:24.520 --> 0:48:29.120 we just touring the stage. We start with Robbing Allan 0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:33.200 and Napa and what's so dope? We we had our 0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:38.440 first show in Brooklyn, but like summer stage in Brooklyn 0:48:38.520 --> 0:48:41.880 and Von King yeah right yeah, and it was it 0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:44.680 was super dope because it's like we're get the rock 0:48:44.760 --> 0:48:46.800 to the classic joints. We were rocking new joints. But 0:48:46.920 --> 0:48:49.719 for me to be on stage and Pete rockets shut 0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:52.160 them down, remix I love that Rode love you know, 0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:56.359 jump around and created. We were going through joints man. 0:48:56.440 --> 0:48:59.520 So the tour it's gonna be crazy. I'm Pete also 0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:01.560 gonna be up on the on the stage with the 0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:05.359 empty all doing doing some of it live. Yo, were 0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:08.440 gonna yo, you know, DJ Dummy will be rocking, but 0:49:08.520 --> 0:49:10.680 Pete go out the drummer. See. We wanted to feel 0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:13.040 like the basement by the way, I mean you you 0:49:13.120 --> 0:49:15.200 lit the idea up for the Jimmy Fallon. Bro. That 0:49:15.320 --> 0:49:18.040 joint came off so crazy for the tonight's show that 0:49:18.719 --> 0:49:21.359 I know how many calls about that performance for uh, 0:49:21.680 --> 0:49:23.840 when the Sun Shines Again? Bro, that was like. 0:49:25.640 --> 0:49:27.759 I felt like y'all made that in the basement, you 0:49:27.800 --> 0:49:28.319 know what I'm saying. 0:49:29.920 --> 0:49:32.120 Shout out to my guy Twammee too, who helped me 0:49:32.239 --> 0:49:32.520 make that. 0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:34.680 My question. 0:49:35.040 --> 0:49:36.400 I don't know if this is dumpy, and I know 0:49:36.480 --> 0:49:38.239 people probably ask you this all the time, but I'm 0:49:38.280 --> 0:49:41.239 just going to add to it. So now you really 0:49:41.280 --> 0:49:43.319 in your bag and stuff, do you think about doing 0:49:43.400 --> 0:49:45.200 another Soul Survivor. 0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:48.200 Or Oh wow, I mean I would love to im 0:49:49.640 --> 0:49:53.680 that's in the works though. That's actually that's the beats 0:49:53.680 --> 0:49:56.480 are you know what I'm saying. So when when we're ready, 0:49:56.520 --> 0:49:58.680 I could present it to people and see what, you know, 0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:01.439 throw another one of people are down. 0:50:01.840 --> 0:50:05.480 I think it's the right time for just you, for 0:50:06.000 --> 0:50:08.640 the artist that's at that this level of the roots, 0:50:09.160 --> 0:50:11.680 I mean, playing me y'all stuff. I'm like, man, this 0:50:11.800 --> 0:50:13.040 stuff is phenomenal. 0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:15.239 There's a phenomenal roots stuff out there. 0:50:15.520 --> 0:50:18.040 Let me take some rash, all right, I place shit 0:50:18.120 --> 0:50:21.799 for rash. Let me tell you something so I think 0:50:21.920 --> 0:50:26.160 between and yes, I do credit being your best promo guy, 0:50:26.239 --> 0:50:30.040 because literally the first people that got the first draft 0:50:30.080 --> 0:50:33.320 of YO, Like, I went into the room. It was 0:50:33.400 --> 0:50:36.360 Pizza Friday at thirty Rock. I went that room and 0:50:36.400 --> 0:50:39.719 I was like, Yo, we are in trouble if we 0:50:39.840 --> 0:50:42.320 don't get on the ball, because the thing was, you know, 0:50:42.520 --> 0:50:48.560 we started when Richard died into twenty fourteen. 0:50:48.760 --> 0:50:49.640 I bless his soul. 0:50:50.000 --> 0:50:51.200 I bless his soul for real. 0:50:51.480 --> 0:50:54.479 Yeah, like that that froze me for like three years, 0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:57.759 and then like I created distractions like oh, I'll make 0:50:57.800 --> 0:51:01.880 a book, I'll do a movie the Pandemic. And then 0:51:01.920 --> 0:51:06.680 it was like ten years later and between me walking 0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:09.439 in the room, I was like, yo, dog, you ain't 0:51:09.480 --> 0:51:12.400 gonna believe this, But I said, Ross and Pete like 0:51:12.560 --> 0:51:16.640 made the perfect summit meeting record, like no person's out 0:51:16.680 --> 0:51:18.080 signing the other person. 0:51:18.840 --> 0:51:20.840 Like everything everything. 0:51:21.600 --> 0:51:24.439 Yeah, and like y'all both brought out you know, it's 0:51:24.480 --> 0:51:26.239 like y'all wrote each other. And I was just like 0:51:26.360 --> 0:51:28.840 going off about it, and I could tell a planning 0:51:28.880 --> 0:51:33.879 to seed. But then after the Hollywood Bowl, I think 0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:37.120 after the Hollywood Bowl performance that we did the Picnic 0:51:37.239 --> 0:51:41.360 goes to the Hollywood Bowl thing, Yeah, I think that 0:51:41.520 --> 0:51:44.640 lit some under Tarik. And so now I mean I 0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:45.239 can I can. 0:51:45.239 --> 0:51:51.960 Say like in the last two weeks, you know, he's 0:51:52.360 --> 0:51:55.839 knocked off at least at thirty rock two. 0:51:55.960 --> 0:51:56.520 This is good. 0:51:56.600 --> 0:52:01.719 I'm like, okay, okay, yeah, I mean back and do 0:52:01.840 --> 0:52:05.880 you want more days like recon write like six or 0:52:05.920 --> 0:52:07.360 seven songs in a setting. 0:52:08.120 --> 0:52:08.560 Woh wow. 0:52:09.840 --> 0:52:13.000 This album is definitely like it is not today's the 0:52:13.040 --> 0:52:16.560 first day, the first time. I'm saying, like Steve's my witness. 0:52:16.640 --> 0:52:19.320 It's probably what he's working on right now as I speak. 0:52:19.640 --> 0:52:21.800 He's the lightning in the bottle like that. 0:52:22.000 --> 0:52:22.239 Dude. 0:52:22.320 --> 0:52:25.799 Man, Yeah, so he's And that's this year or mayor 0:52:25.880 --> 0:52:27.360 you think you think twenty twenty. 0:52:27.160 --> 0:52:30.920 Four years exact date I want to release it, and 0:52:31.000 --> 0:52:34.160 it's not twenty twenty four, but it's it's a seminal 0:52:34.440 --> 0:52:37.000 twenty twenty five date that will make sense once it 0:52:37.080 --> 0:52:37.480 comes out. 0:52:42.480 --> 0:52:44.759 Yo. And one other thing before we go, I got it. 0:52:45.040 --> 0:52:47.680 Just once again say a mayor thank you brother for 0:52:48.239 --> 0:52:51.000 you gave us like this sequence, man, and that meant 0:52:51.120 --> 0:52:52.440 so much to this, to. 0:52:52.560 --> 0:52:55.440 This talk about place in there. 0:52:56.880 --> 0:53:00.680 Let me say that, like, like, first of all, let 0:53:00.719 --> 0:53:03.640 me let me say I have to be the person 0:53:03.760 --> 0:53:06.640 that's like, okay, I got Pete Rock producing this album. 0:53:06.680 --> 0:53:11.000 He is a producer, a ranger, right, so I also 0:53:11.560 --> 0:53:14.120 know I mirror. I know his mastery and what he 0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:18.120 does and as a producer, but also just in sequencing 0:53:18.239 --> 0:53:21.040 and all that like I remember seeing some or so like, man, 0:53:21.120 --> 0:53:24.839 this is this dude is just brilliant and together. Man, 0:53:24.880 --> 0:53:27.279 this dude, it ain't nobody like him. So I'm like 0:53:27.560 --> 0:53:29.920 when I said on the album and he responded the 0:53:29.960 --> 0:53:32.560 way he did, I was like, man, man, can you 0:53:32.640 --> 0:53:35.240 see He's like He's like, man, listen, I remember another 0:53:35.320 --> 0:53:37.040 thing he said. He said, this is already one of 0:53:37.120 --> 0:53:42.040 your best albums without me sequencing. Once one sequenced, I 0:53:42.200 --> 0:53:44.120 was like, this is gonna be amazing. 0:53:44.800 --> 0:53:47.880 Thank you so much, Thank you bro, thank you, no, 0:53:48.080 --> 0:53:51.240 thank you you guys, this is all you I don't even. 0:53:51.160 --> 0:53:52.799 Want to talk about sequence, and this album is all 0:53:52.800 --> 0:53:53.520 you want to talk about it. 0:53:53.680 --> 0:53:58.000 You want to because you have to realize how important sequence, 0:53:58.320 --> 0:54:01.600 sequence is and you're putting the records in the audience 0:54:01.600 --> 0:54:04.759 it is. Make it make sense, make it a life thing, 0:54:04.960 --> 0:54:07.200 like you know, like you could project it. You know 0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:09.840 what I'm saying, as as as you listening to it, 0:54:10.000 --> 0:54:12.160 where if you got to drive seven hours somewhere, you 0:54:12.400 --> 0:54:13.759 right about things, you. 0:54:13.800 --> 0:54:16.960 Know exactly now For me, you know, and part of 0:54:17.000 --> 0:54:19.040 the doing the work on myself and especially in the 0:54:20.520 --> 0:54:24.040 last four years of just like where I am now 0:54:24.080 --> 0:54:28.160 in my life, I'm more in tune to what's in here. 0:54:28.120 --> 0:54:28.640 In my heart. 0:54:28.920 --> 0:54:31.800 And for me, I always felt like I had the 0:54:31.840 --> 0:54:37.040 gift of synesthesia, where if you hear a song or 0:54:37.120 --> 0:54:41.160 hear a melody, you instantly see colors and whatnot. And 0:54:41.400 --> 0:54:44.840 for me, when I sequence records, it's almost like a 0:54:45.560 --> 0:54:48.000 it's a color spectrum, like your brightest to your to 0:54:48.160 --> 0:54:52.360 your to your darkest to your brightest. And for me, like, 0:54:53.160 --> 0:54:55.759 I don't know that the album just spoke itself. It's 0:54:55.800 --> 0:54:58.759 weird though, because when you gave me the original I 0:54:58.800 --> 0:55:01.040 don't know if you just randomly handed me the songs 0:55:01.080 --> 0:55:04.520 in a particular order or if you just had them 0:55:04.560 --> 0:55:06.880 that way as a proposed secret. But it's so funny 0:55:06.920 --> 0:55:11.160 to me because day Dreaming was like almost to the 0:55:11.320 --> 0:55:14.440 end of the album, and it was almost like the 0:55:14.440 --> 0:55:17.080 six or seven song. When I heard it, suddenly I 0:55:17.200 --> 0:55:21.360 was like, oh, that's the first whoa like to me, 0:55:21.560 --> 0:55:25.680 the first three seconds of that shit just sounded like 0:55:27.239 --> 0:55:32.240 like a Sumburst, like that sort of thing, and instantly 0:55:32.320 --> 0:55:33.759 I was like, all right, I now see it. And 0:55:33.880 --> 0:55:36.400 so once you have that one Sumburst there, it's like, 0:55:36.480 --> 0:55:37.440 what do I want to hear after that? 0:55:37.600 --> 0:55:40.640 And after that, and so that is what makes classic 0:55:40.719 --> 0:55:42.719 albums because if you got songs and they not put 0:55:42.800 --> 0:55:46.400 in the right order, that shit could it can The 0:55:46.480 --> 0:55:49.080 story ain't told. It's like a movie. And if you 0:55:49.360 --> 0:55:51.520 if you don't do the right sequence and of them 0:55:51.680 --> 0:55:54.200 you know edits and stuff. And I gotta say, man, 0:55:54.320 --> 0:55:57.160 one last thing on that is just that, Like Pete, 0:55:57.239 --> 0:56:00.520 I was super grateful that you was like into it, 0:56:00.680 --> 0:56:03.000 like you know, because it's hard, Like you're a producer 0:56:03.360 --> 0:56:05.239 and this is this is your project and. 0:56:05.400 --> 0:56:08.400 Through every so why not you know, want that with 0:56:08.560 --> 0:56:09.759 someone who knows how to do that? 0:56:09.960 --> 0:56:10.640 Was that hard to ask? 0:56:10.719 --> 0:56:10.959 Pete? 0:56:12.000 --> 0:56:14.720 When he came to me, I was immediately with the idea. 0:56:15.160 --> 0:56:16.800 Yeah, he was with it. He was with it, and 0:56:16.920 --> 0:56:19.080 then we just sorted through like figuring out okay yo, 0:56:19.440 --> 0:56:22.239 and then we got them interludes. And by the way, 0:56:22.360 --> 0:56:24.400 man shout out on the out show, y'all did it too. 0:56:24.760 --> 0:56:33.000 I mean that man, people's like around that record, found 0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:33.520 that joint. 0:56:33.680 --> 0:56:37.719 I was like, oh, that's what they did. Yeah, man, Yeah, 0:56:38.440 --> 0:56:40.759 I felt I got the record. 0:56:42.880 --> 0:56:45.560 You know, everything from from shooting nuts. Man, this is 0:56:45.840 --> 0:56:46.840 an awesome records. 0:56:46.880 --> 0:56:47.040 Man. 0:56:47.120 --> 0:56:48.960 You two need to be commended. 0:56:49.360 --> 0:56:50.799 Me or can I just can I ask a question 0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:53.800 for Jake real quick on his note because I'm curious 0:56:53.840 --> 0:56:56.080 to know the answer about this because Jake feels like 0:56:56.160 --> 0:56:58.440 this is like the album that is going to if 0:56:58.480 --> 0:57:01.680 you care, like when all the awards, do y'all care 0:57:01.800 --> 0:57:02.880 and do y'all feel that? 0:57:04.160 --> 0:57:07.239 I mean, wow, I mean I'm still pinching myself that 0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:10.200 it's just since this album drop has just been go 0:57:10.640 --> 0:57:11.160 go go. 0:57:12.280 --> 0:57:13.440 Okay, I'm tired. 0:57:14.200 --> 0:57:16.400 Yes, so that means yes, that means yes, Pete. 0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:21.400 Yes, let me tell you do I care? Yes, yes, 0:57:21.880 --> 0:57:25.400 and like to be recognized for for this music would 0:57:25.440 --> 0:57:27.720 be amazing, like when you put your heart and soul 0:57:27.760 --> 0:57:29.480 into it. The one thing I man just said that 0:57:29.560 --> 0:57:32.840 you go operating hard. One thing I know is Pete 0:57:32.920 --> 0:57:35.440 Rock came from the heart and soul that I came 0:57:35.480 --> 0:57:37.720 from the heart and soul. Men came from the heart. 0:57:38.040 --> 0:57:40.200 Our engineer was hard and so we like this. 0:57:41.360 --> 0:57:45.760 You got Jamie to do it, showed us yesterday. 0:57:45.840 --> 0:57:48.800 Jamie stopped being at the shows. Now it's like he 0:57:49.120 --> 0:57:51.760 hard and soul. That being said, we would love to 0:57:51.840 --> 0:57:54.640 be recognized in that way. That would be amazing, Like 0:57:54.840 --> 0:57:57.600 I ain't gonna front it would probably I probably be 0:57:57.720 --> 0:58:00.960 volunteers if to see Pete Rock up on that stage. 0:58:00.920 --> 0:58:03.000 Yes, well then yes for Pete to just get the 0:58:03.640 --> 0:58:04.280 it can happen. 0:58:04.920 --> 0:58:07.600 Pete Rock got the first chair at the tonight show. 0:58:08.160 --> 0:58:11.600 Yes, I never thought that was. 0:58:11.640 --> 0:58:14.160 My first time and it's just unbelievable feeling. 0:58:14.240 --> 0:58:14.880 Man, Thank you. 0:58:15.840 --> 0:58:19.160 It's it's your time, man, it's your time. Y'all need 0:58:19.200 --> 0:58:22.240 to be applauded. Pete help. Thank you for helping com 0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:23.000 and find the one. 0:58:23.640 --> 0:58:26.960 Yes, now he knows where the one is. 0:58:27.160 --> 0:58:28.280 Now he knows where the one is. 0:58:29.000 --> 0:58:29.120 Ya. 0:58:29.440 --> 0:58:33.000 This is uh once again the incomparable Pete Rock and 0:58:33.400 --> 0:58:36.560 Common on a Quest Love Supreme on behalf of Laia 0:58:37.080 --> 0:58:42.240 on pay Bill and Sugar Steve Yo, this is quest Love. 0:58:42.280 --> 0:58:44.840 This is a great episode. Thank you guys so much. 0:58:45.200 --> 0:58:47.840 Buy that album. Support the record, Stream the record. 0:58:48.520 --> 0:58:48.840 Okay. 0:58:49.440 --> 0:58:53.440 We often complain that, you know, we ain't getting the 0:58:54.160 --> 0:58:56.400 quality we deserve, and then we get it and then 0:58:56.480 --> 0:59:00.360 we neglect it. 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