Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio, Good People,
Speaker 1: part of People in the Place. But this is Quest
Speaker 1: Love Supreme, great episode today. I call it the Summit
Speaker 1: Meeting episode our two guests. Is definitely what the doctor ordered.
Speaker 1: And you always hear of titans meaning to collaborate, but
Speaker 1: they never do or sometimes titans get together, and in
Speaker 1: my opinion, the results is uh, you know, quasi diminish returns.
Speaker 1: I won't name any names, but I will say that's
Speaker 1: not the case for the project known as the Auditorium
Speaker 1: Volume one, which I believe I guess off the top,
Speaker 1: I can say that the Auditorium Volume one is it's
Speaker 1: a fifteen song journey that fits like a hand in glove,
Speaker 1: as if these two were collaborating all their lives, you know,
Speaker 1: the we're all soul beats, the witty lyricism. But it's
Speaker 1: also shows you how much they've matured in their three
Speaker 1: decades in the game, because this is probably, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: one of the most soulful offerings that Pete has offered.
Speaker 1: And you know, as far as Commons lyricism is concerned,
Speaker 1: you know, I love the fact that, in addition to
Speaker 1: his couples, you know he's adding in dashes of metaphysical
Speaker 1: talking there, which is of course, you know, it's the
Speaker 1: result of growing up, you know what I mean of adulting.
Speaker 1: That's what I say. I believe that this particular album
Speaker 1: will spark a renaissance because you know, there's also the
Speaker 1: Primo Nas album to come out soon everyone's waiting for.
Speaker 1: I hear all this talk about the Snoop and Dre
Speaker 1: album and how incredible it is, and of course Daylight
Speaker 1: is also collaborating with Primo and Pete and not to
Speaker 1: be outdone. You know, my band has been sitting on
Speaker 1: the sidelines watching all this zactn't happening, and you know.
Speaker 2: It's made us so yeah, let's go.
Speaker 1: Oh, I will say it is made to reek Into
Speaker 1: wrote seven songs in one day. We have not done
Speaker 1: that since our second album. This is not about us.
Speaker 1: This is about our guest today, welcome Common p Rock
Speaker 1: two Supreme Beats.
Speaker 3: Can I just say, I know it's not about that today,
Speaker 3: but it sounds like the fiftieth has birthed a lot, right,
Speaker 3: because I know A birthed y'all two.
Speaker 4: But those other projects that a Mire mentioned nose sound
Speaker 4: like that all happened.
Speaker 3: At the same time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well the fiftieth I can't say it birthed
Speaker 2: me and Pete, but it was like I heard Kareem
Speaker 2: Riggins that played me some peak beats like during the pandemic,
Speaker 2: and I was like, man, I gotta get out with Pete.
Speaker 2: So I reached out to him and he was We
Speaker 2: was connected. But I will say that the fiftieth just
Speaker 2: made me realize how much people love this culture and
Speaker 2: it is really alive. It's for people like what I
Speaker 2: Miya said, it's people that come out with stuff and
Speaker 2: we don't say all that ain't that ain't what we
Speaker 2: like or whatever Peter say it in on Life. For sure,
Speaker 2: Pete don't play, but cats, you know, didn't come out
Speaker 2: and say, man, we really really looking for the hip
Speaker 2: hop that we loved. But the fifty did that. It
Speaker 2: kind of just reinvigorated and like recharged and just kind
Speaker 2: of made me remember how much I loved this music.
Speaker 2: So it was like Pete was, it was divine timing.
Speaker 2: As far as I'm concerned, Pete, can you.
Speaker 3: Talk about I feel like I want to hear more
Speaker 3: from you when it comes to the fiftieth two and
Speaker 3: what that meant for you in that journey of last year.
Speaker 5: I mean for me, it was great because I have
Speaker 5: so much experience and before I even started doing music
Speaker 5: and being successful with that, I had so much early experience,
Speaker 5: you know, in hip hop. So for the fiftieth to come,
Speaker 5: the celebration was so like deeply loved. And I'm the
Speaker 5: type of person that that's so dedicated to what I
Speaker 5: do because I love it passionately, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: And so everything that came with the fiftieth celebration, you know, afterwards,
Speaker 5: being calm and hooked up and here we are today
Speaker 5: and we made this album and it's a great, great album,
Speaker 5: and I think it will inspire people for sure.
Speaker 1: Before hip hop, the idea of a young person having
Speaker 1: an opinion or a point of view, you know, as
Speaker 1: kids were often taught to speak when spoken to minds
Speaker 1: your business, not have an opinion. And you know a
Speaker 1: lot of that is not just like you know parents
Speaker 1: who in the finger thing. You know, a lot of
Speaker 1: that is just post emit till trauma, like not draw
Speaker 1: attention to yourself so that you don't get killed or hurt.
Speaker 1: And then hip hop comes along. Suddenly the opinions of
Speaker 1: a teenager, the opinions of a young person matters, and suddenly,
Speaker 1: you know, we saw this ass like a young man's game,
Speaker 1: like kids, you know what I mean, like if you're
Speaker 1: between seventeen and thirty six when you say matters. Even
Speaker 1: though I put hip hop in the five year timeline
Speaker 1: in my book, I feel like we're the first generation
Speaker 1: in hip hop that will be able to define adulting
Speaker 1: in a way that won't seem like an eye roll
Speaker 1: or an eye sore, you know, because there's nothing more
Speaker 1: than watching like your longtime favorites try to get back
Speaker 1: in the game, and no, this is like all types
Speaker 1: of music, all genres of music, you know. You know,
Speaker 1: I've been very vocal about my princes opinions on the internet,
Speaker 1: So that's an example of like, okay, well he rides
Speaker 1: to the level where you know those first ten years
Speaker 1: where everything was unbeatable. You know, I've had opinions on that,
Speaker 1: but I will say that I think this album is
Speaker 1: a great example of how to be yourself and still
Speaker 1: sound like fresh. You know, I commend to both of you.
Speaker 3: It was an answer back to what Andre said about
Speaker 3: there's nothing else to talk about. I was like, rash
Speaker 3: found all this stuff. I mean, what are you saying?
Speaker 2: Like, well, you know I love Dre three Thoullars. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but everybody is you know where they are. It's times
Speaker 2: in raphell. I was like, man, what am I going
Speaker 2: to say? But then I just got spark man. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's like to be honest. Tarik is one of the
Speaker 2: people that like consistently reminds me that, man, this is infinite.
Speaker 2: Like he said something to me at the Ruth's Picnic
Speaker 2: ten years ago. I was like, man, I've been stuck.
Speaker 2: He was like, Nigga just rap man. He was like,
Speaker 2: you didn't put all these years in just rap. That
Speaker 2: always stuck with me. But I mean, I think what
Speaker 2: you said is super important. Like you know, for years
Speaker 2: we have been like just for survival reasons from you know,
Speaker 2: the slave trauma just taught to be like okay, not
Speaker 2: say too much. And but hip hop gave us that
Speaker 2: that thing to say, like like hip hop for me,
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess for all of us gave us
Speaker 2: a way to find and express ourselves in ways Like
Speaker 2: I was, I'm saying things in rap that I even
Speaker 2: don't even know. I felt. It's almost like my own therapy.
Speaker 2: Sometimes when I hear my songs, I'm like, man, I
Speaker 2: said that, I feel that. And it also gave me
Speaker 2: my Muhammad Ali, my way to be Muhammad Ali. Muhammad
Speaker 2: Ali was always one of my heroes because man, he
Speaker 2: was just speaking like I'm bold, I'm beautiful, I'm black.
Speaker 2: It was like speaking things into existence, and he had
Speaker 2: a higher purpose. And I was like, man, that's what
Speaker 2: rap started to do for me as I started to
Speaker 2: find myself. But I want to say that what you're
Speaker 2: saying about growing older, it was it was a scary thought.
Speaker 2: It first to be like, man, what am I gonna
Speaker 2: do in my thirties and forties, Like that's what I
Speaker 2: used to think. And we just didn't know because we
Speaker 2: didn't We are that generation and thank god, some of
Speaker 2: the things that I was just looking at all of us,
Speaker 2: I was like, man, we great. I'm grateful that we
Speaker 2: had some of the things that our parents taught us.
Speaker 2: But we discovered new things, whether it's eating healthy, whether
Speaker 2: it's therapy, whether it's you know, just meditation, just all
Speaker 2: these new.
Speaker 3: Things rediscovered and acted like it was new because all
Speaker 3: that stuff you just mentioned, there you go.
Speaker 2: There, you go that is very true, Like you could
Speaker 2: probably go to ancient comedic things and we knew these things.
Speaker 2: So so that being said, rediscovering it, but the fact
Speaker 2: that we applying that allows us to like stay like
Speaker 2: not just young, because it's like, now, hey, I'm fifty
Speaker 2: two years old, but I still like spirit is young.
Speaker 2: I'm taking care of myself and I'm also seeking to
Speaker 2: grow as an artist. That's one thing I kind of
Speaker 2: want to ask p and you I'm here, Like when
Speaker 2: I heard peats beats, I'm here, you listen. We both
Speaker 2: know that it could be producers that have come from
Speaker 2: different eras a sound is in that era, right, I
Speaker 2: heard piece beats. I was like this, dude, is this
Speaker 2: is new?
Speaker 5: This is like I don't like new pell reinvention, Pete.
Speaker 2: How did you get to that point and not stay
Speaker 2: in that era of like, Okay, I'm from that era
Speaker 2: and I know what good is to me, but to
Speaker 2: create like the sound and still feels fresh and new,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Part of me kind of wanted to hear one just
Speaker 1: rhyming with biz reminder, like I was waiting for it,
Speaker 1: like does that sound like gonna happen? Is it gonna happen?
Speaker 5: I just kind of listened to all the new artists
Speaker 5: and what they're doing and kind of like said, okay,
Speaker 5: you know, let me step my game, hug. You know,
Speaker 5: I'm like a band member, conductor, slash, you know, funk
Speaker 5: dude in hip hop. Right, So I just kind of
Speaker 5: added that with what they like, and then came with
Speaker 5: some of the aura of the nineties and some of
Speaker 5: what I do and something a little different from mixed in.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Well, one, okay, let me ask the questions so I
Speaker 1: don't wake up the sleeping bear in the cave. From
Speaker 1: a legal standpoint, from one to ten, how much of
Speaker 1: a nightmare was it to bring this album to the public.
Speaker 1: From a musical standpoint, that means so much cool? Okay,
Speaker 1: So here's it all right, all right, let me bring
Speaker 1: it down for year without so the thing that makes
Speaker 1: this album special there's a period starting in ninety six
Speaker 1: ninety seven in which like, first, I mean the idea
Speaker 1: of chopping when you hear like, uh, producers like chopping
Speaker 1: and flipping stuff. Mostly, I would say that flipping and
Speaker 1: check and was kind of a way to really be creative.
Speaker 1: In other words, like okay, hey, remember that old James
Speaker 1: Brown sample that you've heard time and time again from
Speaker 1: this rapper and that rapper, and this rapper and that
Speaker 1: rapp and this rapper. Well, I'm going to present it
Speaker 1: and jumble it up and reinvent it. And as at
Speaker 1: first it was like for sport, but then I realized
Speaker 1: after ninety seven, it's almost for survival. Because sometimes think
Speaker 1: thing of like what gospel music was to our ancestors,
Speaker 1: like to them, it is gospel music, but to us
Speaker 1: it was GPS instructions on how to get freedom. So
Speaker 1: a lot of our producer titans who made their name
Speaker 1: in what we call a four bar loop, you know,
Speaker 1: in other words, I'm going to take these six seconds
Speaker 1: of a song and build the song on top of that,
Speaker 1: suddenly they were forced to find other means to make
Speaker 1: music because the clearance nightmare of it all just became
Speaker 1: too much to deal with. So a lot of our
Speaker 1: beloved producers of the Pete Rock Ilk, of the Large
Speaker 1: Professor ilk, of the Tippin' aali ilk, you know, who
Speaker 1: rely on loops, were sort of put in a position
Speaker 1: where they had Some people made the adjustment, like Primo
Speaker 1: has made the art of what we call stabbing. Stabbing
Speaker 1: is if you take a part of a song and
Speaker 1: it's that song is like an exclamation point or a
Speaker 1: musical atomnopia, you know what I mean, Like taking a
Speaker 1: noise where you don't know where it came from. Very
Speaker 1: few producers can do that all day. But for a
Speaker 1: lot of producers who made their name in loops, the
Speaker 1: first thing I noticed in this album was like, holy shit,
Speaker 1: Like some of these songs have two or three loops
Speaker 1: on top, which can be quasi costly or whatever. So like,
Speaker 1: how did it feel for you, Pete, to actually just
Speaker 1: make a collection of music that was created in a
Speaker 1: non defensive way, Like what was it like just to
Speaker 1: be in that mind state of bringing the loop back?
Speaker 5: Well, I exercised my air a whole lot just playing records,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Just playing them over and
Speaker 5: over and over again, and then just having that passion
Speaker 5: to wanting to make music right because I was a
Speaker 5: fan of Marley Maul and Nowie T and Teddy and
Speaker 5: I wanted to always know who was the man behind
Speaker 5: the music, you know what I'm saying, who was the
Speaker 5: guy making it happen. And so with that passion and
Speaker 5: ambition you know, I think that drove me to kind
Speaker 5: of like, you know, make the loop and the drums
Speaker 5: match the way I would want it, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. And it worked out, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: It worked out for me, and I just kept practicing that,
Speaker 5: kept practicing that, and then boom, all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: I got this, you know what I'm saying. And that's
Speaker 5: how it happened for me. And then everything that came
Speaker 5: to me was easy for me to do.
Speaker 1: You know, so even in your spare time, like by
Speaker 1: the time I got the game, not even by the
Speaker 1: time I got the game, but by the time I
Speaker 1: like got my first twelve hundred or whatever, you know,
Speaker 1: it was already like I mean, by the time I
Speaker 1: really felt like, okay, I'm making beats whatever, it was
Speaker 1: like ninety eight ninety nine. So it's you know, you
Speaker 1: Dilla pretty much like y'all were chopping shit. So my
Speaker 1: entry was the chopping game and really relying on the
Speaker 1: musicianship or the roots to fill in the blinks.
Speaker 5: The chopping game came like mid hip hop, right because
Speaker 5: now we was playing with it so much, we will
Speaker 5: find in ways that sounded iller, you know, when you
Speaker 5: did it either backwards or just did it like a
Speaker 5: jigs or a puzzle and you just played around with this.
Speaker 5: Oh oh oh, it just happened like that, you know.
Speaker 5: And today with all equipment they got, now it's easier
Speaker 5: and much faster. But like in the twelve hundred Days,
Speaker 5: it was chops, right, it was chops. But we would
Speaker 5: take the best parts that we knew would match and
Speaker 5: just rock with those, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So what is your preferred method of like building your
Speaker 1: own instruments or the method of letting loops play out.
Speaker 6: That's kind of what we was doing, you know, but
Speaker 6: we was just doing it with the drum machine.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 6: I know how to play bass with the drum machine
Speaker 6: really good.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: I know how to mock records really good. You know
Speaker 5: that's come from my ear and exercising all the records
Speaker 5: I heard in my life, and you know, learned how
Speaker 5: to mock that, you know what I'm saying. With the
Speaker 5: whether it was with the twelve or the NPC, you know,
Speaker 5: I'm really good at that. But the guitar, I don't
Speaker 5: know how to play the bass guitar. I don't know
Speaker 5: how to play the guitar. But I definitely know it's
Speaker 5: just like it comes like pluses for me, man, how
Speaker 5: the bass go.
Speaker 3: This is when I remind our audience to go back
Speaker 3: in the QLs classics and listen to the Pete Rock episode.
Speaker 1: Get to know it, get to know God. Don't remind
Speaker 1: me of shut him down?
Speaker 2: Man? All right?
Speaker 1: So when Pete told the story of making public enemy
Speaker 1: shut him down, which the shortest version was, he overslept,
Speaker 1: he was late to the studio. He just looked on
Speaker 1: the floor and you know the four records that made
Speaker 1: that one remix, which that one remix?
Speaker 6: I don't believe it.
Speaker 1: Not only do I believe it, I've tested that theory,
Speaker 1: and once I did the research on other songs, I
Speaker 1: will say almost sixty percent of like the songs that
Speaker 1: have have changed our lives or whatever, they were all afterthoughts.
Speaker 1: Like seriously, when you when you said that, I thought
Speaker 1: about you. You basically said, you late to the studio,
Speaker 1: you saw four records on the floor, you picked it
Speaker 1: up through this in and and hair what y'all think?
Speaker 1: And it changed people's lives and what I realized. And
Speaker 1: Quincy Jones also makes this part of his thing. He
Speaker 1: has a thing called no paralysis through analysis. In other words,
Speaker 1: the more you overthink some shit, the more you get paralyzed.
Speaker 1: And you don't come up with results because you're overthinking it,
Speaker 1: whereas you just do it. And that's when you're in
Speaker 1: your natural state. And so suddenly, maybe like three weeks
Speaker 1: after that interview, I got to wrap to Little Steven,
Speaker 1: you know, guitarist of the East Street Band and you know,
Speaker 1: on the Sopranos, and he was telling me like he's
Speaker 1: obsessed with that theory. He's obsessed with songs that sold millions,
Speaker 1: that were made in under five minutes. And literally he
Speaker 1: he gave me a whole like glossary, Like he said,
Speaker 1: Theisley Brothers had like ten minutes left in the studio,
Speaker 1: they like spend the whole session on one song, and like,
Speaker 1: well we got ten minutes left for hey, let's do
Speaker 1: that church song. And then suddenly shall gets burn or
Speaker 1: or I think they made tequila in like two minutes.
Speaker 1: Some of the biggest songs of our lives were just
Speaker 1: like do whatever one, two, three, four, and then like,
Speaker 1: h So that theory works. I've been testing that all day.
Speaker 5: You know, and that's I think I caught window of
Speaker 5: it in my version. And then meeting James Brown when
Speaker 5: I was seven years old, that probably did something.
Speaker 1: To me, right that that night tell me about I
Speaker 1: no tell us?
Speaker 6: Oh, me and my younger brother.
Speaker 5: My moms took us to a concert in New York
Speaker 5: and mam vernon a place called the Left Bank, and
Speaker 5: you know Lank Collins, I remember seeing her. I remember
Speaker 5: seeing Bobby Bird and the JBS, and you know, during
Speaker 5: the break of the show, you know, my mom said,
Speaker 5: come with me, and she took us backstage to meet
Speaker 5: James and he and he grabbed my hand and held
Speaker 5: it and said, God bless you, and damn they pissed
Speaker 5: on myself.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 6: My younger brother grab and you know, and and we
Speaker 6: we were in disbelief.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I think that affected you for life. Yo. That was
Speaker 1: like being annoyed. Look, wow, that's being annoyed, Yo.
Speaker 2: That's annoyed. That was that was the golden touch. But
Speaker 2: you know what that's the I mean when you were
Speaker 2: just talking about that feeling, that natural stuff and the music,
Speaker 2: I was just I can't help but think about James
Speaker 2: Brown and that that that's in fay Line. All that
Speaker 2: music is that and still to this day. Like one
Speaker 2: of the lines that people say the most on the
Speaker 2: song I did, I hadn't even written the line and
Speaker 2: it's ticket tire tic a ticket to tie, And I'm like,
Speaker 2: what what the hell is this? Like like people say
Speaker 2: this to me like like I can wrap the whole
Speaker 2: light and they might not know something. They know some
Speaker 2: of the word talking about when I say that when
Speaker 2: I put that, I put that mic out to the crowd,
Speaker 2: they say that, it's like it just showed me that man,
Speaker 2: that that was that not overthinking it and just allowing
Speaker 2: it to come out is exactly what the music should be.
Speaker 4: And Pete, I was just gonna say.
Speaker 3: Sit there for a second on that James Brown and
Speaker 3: that Failie tip too because of all these parallels, because
Speaker 3: this album, when listening to the different messages and the
Speaker 3: things that y'all are saying, it's.
Speaker 2: A lot of parallels.
Speaker 4: I was wondering if y'all realized, like how perfect it
Speaker 4: is to day to hear.
Speaker 3: That album, like to like y'all to day wow Wow,
Speaker 3: like like Destiny, Hope, Faith Today.
Speaker 5: I think we just didn't even think about nothing but
Speaker 5: just doing what he liked. He picked beats, he liked,
Speaker 5: and I was just like he had boom and he
Speaker 5: came back with a full song and we just said
Speaker 5: all right, we're gonna use this.
Speaker 6: We're gonna use this, We're gonna use this, and came together.
Speaker 1: Do you still have the basement?
Speaker 6: Yes, oh, not in Mount Vernon, but it's up in
Speaker 6: Rockland now.
Speaker 1: Damn no more Mount Vernon basement.
Speaker 2: But it's still but it's still got the vibe. It
Speaker 2: got the vibe. Man. When I got out there, I
Speaker 2: was like, so you physically had to go to his cribbing, Yeah,
Speaker 2: physically into his crib and sat down and see first
Speaker 2: thing I seen in there. I was like, you know
Speaker 2: how certain things is just signs. I sat down, I
Speaker 2: saw all his records and he had his dealer book
Speaker 2: right there. It was like the deal of book was
Speaker 2: right there, and his dog Joy was chilling, and I
Speaker 2: was like, man, And people was playing beats and then
Speaker 2: they would play some records and I was like, man,
Speaker 2: this is what I always loved about making music, Like
Speaker 2: being in the midst. I mean, you know, we being
Speaker 2: in that studio and like so like to be around
Speaker 2: Pete and just be sitting there like just vibing. We
Speaker 2: started to talk about life. You know, that's how we
Speaker 2: form brother That's why we're brothers now to this day.
Speaker 2: Like I mean, because of what we formed in the
Speaker 2: studio and outside of the studio. But then when we
Speaker 2: in that space, it's like, man, that's when the music
Speaker 2: starts to become just beautiful because it's just like we
Speaker 2: going through the process.
Speaker 4: How many records y'all go through in this moment you
Speaker 4: went to the basement.
Speaker 6: When you went to peace, I was just playing a
Speaker 6: bunch of albums.
Speaker 5: I was like, I knew I had some dope records,
Speaker 5: and I was like pulling out the dopest ones I
Speaker 5: could find, and it was like playing it for him.
Speaker 6: Like, Yo, listen to this. He was like, Yo, you
Speaker 6: gotta hook that one up. And I play him another one.
Speaker 6: He was like, Yo, you gotta hook that one up.
Speaker 6: Play them another one the same ship, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean.
Speaker 2: Like, and then sometimes you just send me videos and
Speaker 2: you know, here be messing with a loop and it's
Speaker 2: funny because I wish I could see it. It's like
Speaker 2: you could see him bouncing to the beat on the problem.
Speaker 2: You see some of those right, And it's like I
Speaker 2: would hear it and be like, wow, this is this
Speaker 2: is amazing. He just gave me the music is a
Speaker 2: cool like ocean to do what I wanted to do.
Speaker 2: Like all the experiences that we experienced in life, I
Speaker 2: felt like, man, I'm free now. I ain't gotta like
Speaker 2: I'm referencing Steve. I'm referencing the six million dollar man. Now.
Speaker 2: I know, don't know young people know what the million
Speaker 2: dollar man is, but who cares? Like I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be at MC and say the things and that's
Speaker 2: I mean, coming up doing resurrection at Kennibar Dollar. I
Speaker 2: wasn't thinking about like, man, does this person understand this?
Speaker 3: And that.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm referencing all this Chicago shit and just
Speaker 2: saying stuff that my homies noses. So I was like, man,
Speaker 2: let me be free and not try to try to
Speaker 2: cater to to anybody like and just write and peak
Speaker 2: the same way. Because at one point P said, yo, Ross,
Speaker 2: you know I could do if you want something else,
Speaker 2: I could give you something else, even a lot of music.
Speaker 2: I said, no, no, no, I want loops. Looks a
Speaker 2: big risk, bro, but we got through it. We do.
Speaker 2: I want loops, chops whatever you know, like we're doing samples, bro, like,
Speaker 2: let's do what we do and like being our home
Speaker 2: life fell home.
Speaker 1: To me by the way, Rosh. One of my favorite
Speaker 1: apps on my iPhone is the inflation calculator. Today this
Speaker 1: six million dollar Man would actually be the thirty million,
Speaker 1: nine hundred and fifty eight thousand dollars man. So it's
Speaker 1: good to know if we do the reboot forty million
Speaker 1: dollar Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, basically calendar apples to start there an inflating calendar app.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all the time I look at inflation calculators just
Speaker 1: to see what what the price differences was. Wait, Pete,
Speaker 1: so when we did the tonight show, you brought out
Speaker 1: your inner DiAngelo by pulling out your scusy device, which
Speaker 1: is something that I've not seen Stevens laugh.
Speaker 6: Believe how many of them I have?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 4: What's the song?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 1: The like a zip drive? Yees discusy zip drive Like
Speaker 1: so basically like I could make an album in this
Speaker 1: iPhone of I want. That's how far like technology is
Speaker 1: advanced where I can make beats on my phone now crazy,
Speaker 1: But you know back in two thousand and two thousand
Speaker 1: and one, you would have to buy zip drives, which
Speaker 1: only holds a little bit of information and if you
Speaker 1: brought a scuzzy I mean that can can hold maybe
Speaker 1: maybe half a terra byte, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I mean, of course, now on our mac Book pros,
Speaker 1: you can rule the world on your computer. But I
Speaker 1: wanted to know, like, what is your preferred method of
Speaker 1: creating joints? Like what did you use primarily on this album?
Speaker 1: The NPC two thousand XL So you graduated to the
Speaker 1: two thousand XCEL.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm on the X now.
Speaker 5: I'm on the new X standard with the stems and everything,
Speaker 5: and I'm still learning it. And I got some nice
Speaker 5: beats on it now, but I'm still learning it. You know,
Speaker 5: I want to get it mastered before I start doing so.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, because now it's to me,
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a breathless race of
Speaker 1: the finish now that we have technology that will allow
Speaker 1: you to remove drums if you want to, or just
Speaker 1: take the baseline if you want to, because I know
Speaker 1: there's always like that one sample, like say your love
Speaker 1: for the Ohio players, you know, if you can find
Speaker 1: a way to sort of astract the Juni Marrison's ad
Speaker 1: libs off of song and just have the bass alone.
Speaker 1: And you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Like, I'm gonna give you a great example of this,
Speaker 5: Fortunate the song on the Auditorium volume on song Fortunate
Speaker 5: We Did. How I got to be was Brazilian record
Speaker 5: played it. Listen to a part where I heard some
Speaker 5: bass and some things going on. I said, imagine the vocals.
Speaker 5: So I put it in my laptop. Put it in
Speaker 5: my laptop, I got the stems on my on my
Speaker 5: Serado thing and all I did was take the the
Speaker 5: vocal out and I got to beat.
Speaker 1: See, I don't feel alone now, see Steve, I'm not
Speaker 1: the only one.
Speaker 5: But but people wouldn't know where to loop it. So
Speaker 5: I looked at it. Yeah, I looped it in the
Speaker 5: right place and I was like, boom, wow, this is crazy.
Speaker 5: I had the singing going on in there. Then I
Speaker 5: took the singing out.
Speaker 4: And I was like, so, I screaming, okay, do another one.
Speaker 1: Look down. No, it's it's a game changer.
Speaker 2: Yo.
Speaker 5: I was thinking, oh, a lot of ship And I
Speaker 5: sent it to him and I used the drums everything
Speaker 5: in that loop, the drums.
Speaker 6: I just brought the drums out. That's the that's the
Speaker 6: racket bro.
Speaker 1: That method is game changing where you know, I mean
Speaker 1: there's other you know, there's Ableton and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: but for me, like I just put the join in
Speaker 1: my serado. It's so old school, but all right. So
Speaker 1: I talked to the Beastie Boys once and I didn't
Speaker 1: realize if you listen to that entire Paul's Boutique album,
Speaker 1: they did zero programming. They literally, one by one they
Speaker 1: would perfectly loop a drum track as their first track.
Speaker 1: You know, each song on Paul's Boutique was easily somewhere
Speaker 1: between eight to sometimes fifteen samples, you know, And I'm
Speaker 1: thinking they did it the regular way where they just
Speaker 1: put inside the drum machine and programmed it that way.
Speaker 1: Allah the Bomb Squad Nah, they literally would just take
Speaker 1: pieces all the records and loop them all together perfectly
Speaker 1: and then just auto edit it, which is the wildest
Speaker 1: way in my opinion, to make an album.
Speaker 6: But you know, it can be done. It could be done.
Speaker 6: I've seen it too.
Speaker 1: It could be done. So Rash, I wanted to ask you,
Speaker 1: so there's a point for the roots. In twenty ten,
Speaker 1: Rich challenged us to make what he called the Midlife
Speaker 1: Crisis record. Yeah, where you know, no rapper wants to
Speaker 1: talk about like being at a crossroads in their life
Speaker 1: or you know, the feeling of growing up or anything
Speaker 1: that would even remotely remind your audience that I'm not
Speaker 1: a twenty year old anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Lyrically, how like, how did you wrestle with what exactly
Speaker 1: you wanted to bring across on the album in terms
Speaker 1: of your themes? And as Laia mentioned on so many people.
Speaker 2: This was one of the albums I had the least
Speaker 2: wrestling to do. And I think the freedom came about
Speaker 2: because once again, like being at the four tour and
Speaker 2: seeing like a stadium full of people, I'm like, man,
Speaker 2: it's people out there that want this. And also I
Speaker 2: was also like I did a couple I did a
Speaker 2: freestyle on on the la Leakers, and I got more
Speaker 2: calls about that any album I put out in the
Speaker 2: past ten years. So I was like, my I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, and I part of my gauge, my research
Speaker 2: is when my homies called me.
Speaker 1: It reaches them, then you know it's real.
Speaker 2: That's when I know I'm doing something like they call
Speaker 2: me like yo ros that's dope, or they like a man,
Speaker 2: I might have to remind them I got something out,
Speaker 2: but when they really like something, they.
Speaker 1: Hitting me up like yo, So what do they say
Speaker 1: about this album?
Speaker 2: This is one of my best albums ever. Some said
Speaker 2: that it is my best and some was like, man,
Speaker 2: I can't believe you all made a classic in this era.
Speaker 2: But I mean, let's be clear. First, I want to
Speaker 2: give you yours, because man, you were the first person
Speaker 2: I sent the album to outside of me Pete and
Speaker 2: Jamie and people that was recording like basically.
Speaker 1: And I mean how hard it was to keep that secret? Yea,
Speaker 1: I remember literal least the first week he was like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: don't leave the ship and.
Speaker 2: What the we know?
Speaker 4: A mire And it's okay, we know because.
Speaker 2: I'm you Listen, I'm here is the best friend promo
Speaker 2: person you could ever have, meaning he ain't gonna let
Speaker 2: it lead to the public, but he go get into
Speaker 2: the right people. I saw that FaceTime you had with Preemo,
Speaker 2: like little snippets, but that got the buzz going. It
Speaker 2: ain't nothing like letting if I'm here feeling it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but let me tell you the first thing, I'm here
Speaker 2: text me when he heard the album. But this is
Speaker 2: what first of all, I was sending it to him
Speaker 2: to listen to it because I want him to sequence
Speaker 2: the album. I want him to have that input. And
Speaker 2: and the first thing he said to me was, damn,
Speaker 2: I can't believe y'all did this ship like I was.
Speaker 2: He was like, yo, y'all, he was like, I got
Speaker 2: total confidence and people, right, I got total confidence in you.
Speaker 2: But this is beyond what I thought it's because.
Speaker 4: What's the part of me? Is it because of the label?
Speaker 3: Because I was curious too, like the label part of it,
Speaker 3: because I mean, I know as an artist, you know,
Speaker 3: everybody got their opinions on your ship. But it seems
Speaker 3: like this time y'all didn't have to worry about that
Speaker 3: part of it.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I don't, man. See the last time I
Speaker 1: offered my two cents about a hip hop opinion, that
Speaker 1: shit started trending on Twitter. Okay, So wait, I will
Speaker 1: say this because I think that they even agree with it.
Speaker 1: All right, another no, no, no, listen Okay. In the
Speaker 1: case of Steel Dre, that's a great example of jay
Speaker 1: Z and Doctor Dre working together. However, jay Z and
Speaker 1: Doctor Dre have worked three or four times together, and
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the pressure. It's almost like
Speaker 1: an All Star game. It's it's it's like if you're
Speaker 1: gonna have Kobe and Jordan ann Iverson and Magic Johnson
Speaker 1: and Shack. I mean, I'm just randomly naming. I'm surprised
Speaker 1: Steve's not starting pressed now. I'm impressed.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: All day, keep going, thank you anyway. I love the
Speaker 1: sports anyway. The point was that their collaborations on Kingdom
Speaker 1: come and it didn't yield the magic that it should
Speaker 1: have yielded. But I think that's almost with every artist,
Speaker 1: Like when Stevie Wonder and Michael Jackson got together on
Speaker 1: the Bad Album that wound up being the.
Speaker 6: Exactly right right.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's too much pressure when two gods
Speaker 1: get together and you don't know because it's never gonna
Speaker 1: be fifty to fifty. It's going to be either sixty
Speaker 1: forty or seventy thirty, Like you don't know what it's
Speaker 1: going to be. And for me, this album, like I
Speaker 1: was just shocked that y'all probably got fifty to fifty
Speaker 1: on it, like m to me, it it established and
Speaker 1: and and reinvented Pete wait. I got to ask you,
Speaker 1: ro did Electronica have any influence on your floor with that.
Speaker 2: Let me say this, Jay Electronica has had some influence
Speaker 2: on me because he's dope, so it is inspired. I
Speaker 2: get inspired, but I hadn't. I wasn't listening to him.
Speaker 2: It was strictly that beat, and I was just having fun.
Speaker 2: I was actually riding from I was riding from Peace Kriby.
Speaker 2: It just gave me the beat and then and then
Speaker 2: you know, I was just riding home and them rhymes
Speaker 2: came to me like she knew me from the city.
Speaker 2: She knew I was fitty, she had power and maybe
Speaker 2: some sense like Citty, let's go up.
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. Like any other MC would
Speaker 1: have just smothered the track with as much wordplay, the flex.
Speaker 1: But the fact that you did couplets and only asked
Speaker 1: about Jay Electronica because a lot on his album that
Speaker 1: he released in the Pandemic, he would allow himself to
Speaker 1: do a couplet like couplets and spaces and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: which usually mcs MCS, especially rock him, influence them. Seeds
Speaker 1: got to like make sure they pack in every ounce
Speaker 1: of space with words. And the fact that you were
Speaker 1: just playful with it. That to means the magic place, man, So.
Speaker 2: Listen, I gotta say all this experience like for me,
Speaker 2: like doing the like water for Chopper's doing the electric circuits,
Speaker 2: doing universal mind, like wrapping over different type of things.
Speaker 2: I'm learning and I'm seeking. I want to be better,
Speaker 2: so I don't like over wrapping stuff. I know at
Speaker 2: times I can overwrap, like and U MC's getting caught
Speaker 2: up in like I gotta be cool g on this shit.
Speaker 2: So let me you know. But I'm I'd rather be
Speaker 2: just an instrument. I'd rather be Maurice White or Q
Speaker 2: Tip or you know, like I want to be an
Speaker 2: instrument to it. Like like so I just now I
Speaker 2: just try to just allow the music to inspire me
Speaker 2: and get me going, you know. I mean I did
Speaker 2: the music. The music always inspire me. But now I
Speaker 2: think because of certain experienses, I know where the one is.
Speaker 2: I know where the one is.
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, I'm here, guess what four songs? You
Speaker 1: don't know where the one is. But I'll let that go.
Speaker 6: Where the one is at. That's the thing.
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Me and the men know where the one is at.
Speaker 5: You don't know a big deal to teach somebody where
Speaker 5: it's really at Like I just wanted to show him
Speaker 5: where it was really at so he gets a past.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm I'm there. We had like, we had
Speaker 2: that song called there is a Guy That's on the
Speaker 2: on the album I wrapped in a different space and
Speaker 2: Pete after a while, I was like, bro, that ain't
Speaker 2: where the rhyme should be. And I'm was like, bro,
Speaker 2: this is where it's supposed to be. Me and PJ.
Speaker 2: PJ wrote the hook. This girl PJ, who was incredible,
Speaker 2: she this is what I said, this is where it is.
Speaker 2: And he was like, bro, I made the beat. I'm
Speaker 2: from the school of James Brown. I know where to wan. Yo.
Speaker 2: We was going back and forth, Man, want this song?
Speaker 1: Do you come in?
Speaker 4: Does he come in on the one?
Speaker 5: He didn't come in and on the one at first
Speaker 5: at first, but you fixed it so that, yeah, I
Speaker 5: can understand because he's not the only one that I've
Speaker 5: dealt with that come in where they come in. And
Speaker 5: sometimes that's cool when you just make anything type of
Speaker 5: beat and you just like I just just just go
Speaker 5: just eat it.
Speaker 6: But at this this is our album. So I'm like, yo, hey,
Speaker 6: go to one right here. It's right here. He's like, nah,
Speaker 6: I wrote it like this. I'm like, but that's not
Speaker 6: We're the one for.
Speaker 2: Where it's that.
Speaker 5: So then it went A couple of days went by,
Speaker 5: A couple of days went by, say, yo, you know what,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna try it chill away. I'm gonna try it
Speaker 5: chill away. Then he sent it back the way it's
Speaker 5: supposed to be, and I said, they go to the
Speaker 5: song right.
Speaker 4: There, And he said, and you said what I mean,
Speaker 4: I guess that's good.
Speaker 2: I was like, I said, you don't you know what?
Speaker 2: You lived with it. You have to live right. I
Speaker 2: did have to live with it. But there's been many
Speaker 2: sessions where i'mre and James playing and they was like, rash,
Speaker 2: the one is here, man, don't be.
Speaker 4: You would have learned that on that Electric Circus is something.
Speaker 1: No, don't give James them props. James on know where
Speaker 1: the one is either, So yes, yo ps.
Speaker 3: I just want to say I'm glad y'all said the
Speaker 3: title of that song because shout out to a girl.
Speaker 3: I didn't know what accent she was saying God in,
Speaker 3: But y'all know that's an interesting way of saying there
Speaker 3: is a there's a business.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's some real. That's some real Chicago slash Southern
Speaker 2: slash church. God, there's a god. God.
Speaker 4: I knew y'all did that purposely. I was like, y'all,
Speaker 4: y'all made her say, y'all say it like you say
Speaker 4: it at home.
Speaker 2: Okay, it was the south side Chicago. Yeah, that's what I'm.
Speaker 4: Saying, you say it at home.
Speaker 1: So the album title, why did you give it the
Speaker 1: title the auditorium? And also what was the significance behind
Speaker 1: using King's Theater in BK as your album cover?
Speaker 2: Well, auditorium listening, I was watching Smokey Robinson in an
Speaker 2: interview and he was talking about how he first wrote
Speaker 2: his first song and how it was no music. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was just music, it was no lyrics, and they
Speaker 2: was about to perform and they was in the auditorium
Speaker 2: and he was like asked his teacher could he write
Speaker 2: some words to it. That's how he began songwriting. And
Speaker 2: I was thinking, like, man, auditorium, Like that's where I
Speaker 2: started my first Like I got my first performance off too,
Speaker 2: like I was. It was breakdancing, but it was in
Speaker 2: my school auditorium and that's where I was part of
Speaker 2: a play at and Then later that day I rode
Speaker 2: past past the place this sit it was called auditorium,
Speaker 2: and I was like something about that word. I just liked,
Speaker 2: Like when I when I'm choosing titles, I like the
Speaker 2: sonically first, Like I mean how they sound like like
Speaker 2: water for chocolate or be like I wanted to. I
Speaker 2: like titles to sound like books sometimes too, like, So
Speaker 2: I was like, the auditorium, Ah, that could be dope.
Speaker 2: I kind of felt like it would be a place
Speaker 2: where we would invite people to our auditorium musically, like
Speaker 2: just so they can enjoy our art. But listen, the
Speaker 2: story goes, we get this title. Pete does his ad
Speaker 2: libs on Dreaming, and I'm super geek, like, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I got Pete rock ad libs. This is amazing, right
Speaker 2: Like on a Dreaming he says the Auditorium twenty four
Speaker 2: the auditorium, So this is like I'm gonna say he
Speaker 2: love the title, but he knew that was the title
Speaker 2: of the album. Fast forward four months later, Pete calling, hey, Man,
Speaker 2: I don't like the title the Auditorium no more. He said, Man,
Speaker 2: I don't think we can't call it the auditorial. I'm like, oh, no, man,
Speaker 2: please brood you want to call it.
Speaker 5: No, I can't say the titles because they're so dope
Speaker 5: somebody might steal it. But I had had a different
Speaker 5: title for it, and then, you know, we were going
Speaker 5: back and forth about the title, and then, you know,
Speaker 5: like the men we are, we just sat with it
Speaker 5: for a little bit and I saw his way in it,
Speaker 5: you know, and I said, you know what, as long
Speaker 5: as we could put volume one on the end of
Speaker 5: it so they'll know something more is coming.
Speaker 6: Rights.
Speaker 1: It worked out, though, You're not going to pull a
Speaker 1: haul on oas though, and never put out a part two? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: How many records you already got on the part too?
Speaker 4: How many records put the part to you?
Speaker 3: I know y'all already got some.
Speaker 5: I can't be sitting on his music no more. So
Speaker 5: you know, I'm ready to give it to the world.
Speaker 5: But we already started dibbling and dabbling right now. He
Speaker 5: just sent me something today like ye to remind me Pete.
Speaker 1: I got I got a question now wanted to ask you,
Speaker 1: so premiere, actually let me hear it. I always wanted
Speaker 1: to know what do you do with the fail beats?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And Premiere has, Like I
Speaker 1: asked him, like, do you sometimes, like you know, when
Speaker 1: you're driving, do you do you hear drill music or
Speaker 1: a trap joint and be like, all right, let me
Speaker 1: try to sit I'll see what I do. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: Premiere gave me six. He gave me six very un
Speaker 1: premiere sounding joints, like straight up like eight oweight, drum machines,
Speaker 1: keyboards like whatever whatever elements that makes a primo. He
Speaker 1: took away. And you know it's weird, like I would
Speaker 1: say that at least for them. Joints sounded like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a big, big, big Loosens fan, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it came off more like
Speaker 1: his eight to eight joints sounded more like some loose
Speaker 1: and shit and so like for you to challenge yourself,
Speaker 1: do you ever like have a thing where it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, well let me learn, Like have you ever said,
Speaker 1: all right, let me see if I can make trap
Speaker 1: ord that sort of thing you have eight o eight
Speaker 1: beats and ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I used to play around in the crib all the
Speaker 5: time just to see, you know, not to you know, pinch,
Speaker 5: just to pinch myself to make sure like you know,
Speaker 5: I can do what they're doing.
Speaker 6: It's it's as simple as cake.
Speaker 5: So I like to play around in the crib, and
Speaker 5: sometimes I'll play around to the point where I really
Speaker 5: make something, you know what I'm saying, Like, like I
Speaker 5: really make some fly shit and I'm like, yo, you know,
Speaker 5: trying to put it out or give it to somebody
Speaker 5: to here.
Speaker 1: Or so while I'm asking, do you think you'll ever
Speaker 1: make an avant garde, unpeat rock sounding album like a project?
Speaker 2: Well, I say a.
Speaker 5: Little bit of that, as like all the peastrumentals you
Speaker 5: ever heard, all the instrumental albums you ever heard, those
Speaker 5: are kind of not I wouldn't say failed beats, but
Speaker 5: just beats that weren't used.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's still non factor beats.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you can still call him non factor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm talking about just like crazy shit, like
Speaker 1: five to four meters shit, or you know, using drums
Speaker 1: you would never ever use in this Like Okay, So
Speaker 1: for this new roots album, Ashley's Roads clip to Me, yea,
Speaker 1: if you take rock him out the factor, Yeah, Ashlete's
Speaker 1: roachs clip to Me was never a desirable break beat,
Speaker 1: even though it's a classic break beat Ashley's Roads clip
Speaker 1: is the drum break that we know is Peyton full,
Speaker 1: but it's also pm Dorn's breakbeat Emf's unbelievable like girl,
Speaker 1: you know it's true.
Speaker 5: One thing about I learned from mally mal is how
Speaker 5: he his music to make it sound hella different. You know,
Speaker 5: they take in piece the president drums and make it
Speaker 5: sound totally different from the bridge. Right, Eric beats for President.
Speaker 5: It sounds totally different from the bridge. They don't sound
Speaker 5: the same. You ever listen to that, You ever really
Speaker 5: listen to the difference?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And he's he's presented and peached the President in
Speaker 1: ways that just sound different.
Speaker 5: And that's what I learned from him, which is hella
Speaker 5: important for hip hop and for you know, producers to
Speaker 5: know is to like how to disguise your music.
Speaker 1: So what's what's the one drum break that you feel
Speaker 1: is the the mountain that has not been fully climbed
Speaker 1: yet in terms of like flipping or like for me,
Speaker 1: for all the for all the allure.
Speaker 6: I tell people that.
Speaker 1: Okay, well I'll ask you for all the legend and
Speaker 1: the allure that we credit funky drummer to me. Impeach
Speaker 1: the President is the most used beat because a piece
Speaker 1: of the President me is almost like meat and potatoes,
Speaker 1: like the basic elements, whereas Funky Drummer to me is
Speaker 1: almost like it's sushi. It's well depending on your palette. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's high art, delicious food that is not for everybody.
Speaker 6: Right, right, you're right about You're right about that.
Speaker 1: So like, have you have you ever figured out a
Speaker 1: way Well, I'm about to ask you fake and Jax
Speaker 1: not even fake no, no, no, not even with the
Speaker 1: meats President. I was about to say with Funky Drummer,
Speaker 1: but I totally forgot about your first ep. You successfully
Speaker 1: flipped Funky Drummer. I forgot, like you're the one person.
Speaker 6: That actually did it, yep, just a snap.
Speaker 1: So yeah, like, for you, what's the one taboo break
Speaker 1: beat that you have yet to flip and be like?
Speaker 1: All right, I'm a damn.
Speaker 6: It's just such a choice. It's hard to just pick one,
Speaker 6: but I'm gonna.
Speaker 4: Pick one real hard with nobody else could do it,
Speaker 4: you see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but even if he does it, he does it,
Speaker 1: like right, that's true, that's true break b I mean
Speaker 1: some of you wouldn't tell, like Boogie Back or two
Speaker 1: thousand and one, or.
Speaker 5: I'll say boogie back, but then I also say substitution.
Speaker 5: Really yeah, yeah, but I mean just from like that's
Speaker 5: been used a lot too.
Speaker 1: It's been used a lot. I would figure that there's
Speaker 1: some other break that you know is your that you
Speaker 1: haven't climbed that mountain.
Speaker 4: Yet, But amir, is there one that you would like
Speaker 4: to hear?
Speaker 5: Maybe funkin delic all right, good old music? This is
Speaker 5: Connections album I used. I've been chopping that. I've been
Speaker 5: chopping good old music.
Speaker 6: Really yeah. If you listen to see.
Speaker 1: It's too much reverb on it for me to even consider.
Speaker 1: Like usually if a session is dry, then I feel
Speaker 1: like you can flip it on your own. But if
Speaker 1: it's so much reverb on there, Okay, yes, I know
Speaker 1: there's a lot of inside baseball.
Speaker 6: Speak on here. Sorry, I've been chopping that up. There's
Speaker 6: so many ways to do it, so.
Speaker 1: Damn okay, Pete. Before we wrap up tour wise, how
Speaker 1: are you guys doing the rest of this year? Like
Speaker 1: you're working on the tour.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going out on tour starting in late August.
Speaker 2: You know, we're gonna hit the Bluenow Festival and then
Speaker 2: we just touring the stage. We start with Robbing Allan
Speaker 2: and Napa and what's so dope? We we had our
Speaker 2: first show in Brooklyn, but like summer stage in Brooklyn
Speaker 2: and Von King yeah right yeah, and it was it
Speaker 2: was super dope because it's like we're get the rock
Speaker 2: to the classic joints. We were rocking new joints. But
Speaker 2: for me to be on stage and Pete rockets shut
Speaker 2: them down, remix I love that Rode love you know,
Speaker 2: jump around and created. We were going through joints man.
Speaker 2: So the tour it's gonna be crazy. I'm Pete also
Speaker 2: gonna be up on the on the stage with the
Speaker 2: empty all doing doing some of it live. Yo, were
Speaker 2: gonna yo, you know, DJ Dummy will be rocking, but
Speaker 2: Pete go out the drummer. See. We wanted to feel
Speaker 2: like the basement by the way, I mean you you
Speaker 2: lit the idea up for the Jimmy Fallon. Bro. That
Speaker 2: joint came off so crazy for the tonight's show that
Speaker 2: I know how many calls about that performance for uh,
Speaker 2: when the Sun Shines Again? Bro, that was like.
Speaker 1: I felt like y'all made that in the basement, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Shout out to my guy Twammee too, who helped me
Speaker 6: make that.
Speaker 2: My question.
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is dumpy, and I know
Speaker 3: people probably ask you this all the time, but I'm
Speaker 3: just going to add to it. So now you really
Speaker 3: in your bag and stuff, do you think about doing
Speaker 3: another Soul Survivor.
Speaker 5: Or Oh wow, I mean I would love to im
Speaker 5: that's in the works though. That's actually that's the beats
Speaker 5: are you know what I'm saying. So when when we're ready,
Speaker 5: I could present it to people and see what, you know,
Speaker 5: throw another one of people are down.
Speaker 2: I think it's the right time for just you, for
Speaker 2: the artist that's at that this level of the roots,
Speaker 2: I mean, playing me y'all stuff. I'm like, man, this
Speaker 2: stuff is phenomenal.
Speaker 4: There's a phenomenal roots stuff out there.
Speaker 1: Let me take some rash, all right, I place shit
Speaker 1: for rash. Let me tell you something so I think
Speaker 1: between and yes, I do credit being your best promo guy,
Speaker 1: because literally the first people that got the first draft
Speaker 1: of YO, Like, I went into the room. It was
Speaker 1: Pizza Friday at thirty Rock. I went that room and
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, we are in trouble if we
Speaker 1: don't get on the ball, because the thing was, you know,
Speaker 1: we started when Richard died into twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2: I bless his soul.
Speaker 6: I bless his soul for real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that that froze me for like three years,
Speaker 1: and then like I created distractions like oh, I'll make
Speaker 1: a book, I'll do a movie the Pandemic. And then
Speaker 1: it was like ten years later and between me walking
Speaker 1: in the room, I was like, yo, dog, you ain't
Speaker 1: gonna believe this, But I said, Ross and Pete like
Speaker 1: made the perfect summit meeting record, like no person's out
Speaker 1: signing the other person.
Speaker 6: Like everything everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like y'all both brought out you know, it's
Speaker 1: like y'all wrote each other. And I was just like
Speaker 1: going off about it, and I could tell a planning
Speaker 1: to seed. But then after the Hollywood Bowl, I think
Speaker 1: after the Hollywood Bowl performance that we did the Picnic
Speaker 1: goes to the Hollywood Bowl thing, Yeah, I think that
Speaker 1: lit some under Tarik. And so now I mean I
Speaker 1: can I can.
Speaker 7: Say like in the last two weeks, you know, he's
Speaker 7: knocked off at least at thirty rock two.
Speaker 2: This is good.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, okay, yeah, I mean back and do
Speaker 1: you want more days like recon write like six or
Speaker 1: seven songs in a setting.
Speaker 6: Woh wow.
Speaker 1: This album is definitely like it is not today's the
Speaker 1: first day, the first time. I'm saying, like Steve's my witness.
Speaker 1: It's probably what he's working on right now as I speak.
Speaker 6: He's the lightning in the bottle like that.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, so he's And that's this year or mayor
Speaker 4: you think you think twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Four years exact date I want to release it, and
Speaker 1: it's not twenty twenty four, but it's it's a seminal
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five date that will make sense once it
Speaker 1: comes out.
Speaker 2: Yo. And one other thing before we go, I got it.
Speaker 2: Just once again say a mayor thank you brother for
Speaker 2: you gave us like this sequence, man, and that meant
Speaker 2: so much to this, to.
Speaker 4: This talk about place in there.
Speaker 2: Let me say that, like, like, first of all, let
Speaker 2: me let me say I have to be the person
Speaker 2: that's like, okay, I got Pete Rock producing this album.
Speaker 2: He is a producer, a ranger, right, so I also
Speaker 2: know I mirror. I know his mastery and what he
Speaker 2: does and as a producer, but also just in sequencing
Speaker 2: and all that like I remember seeing some or so like, man,
Speaker 2: this is this dude is just brilliant and together. Man,
Speaker 2: this dude, it ain't nobody like him. So I'm like
Speaker 2: when I said on the album and he responded the
Speaker 2: way he did, I was like, man, man, can you
Speaker 2: see He's like He's like, man, listen, I remember another
Speaker 2: thing he said. He said, this is already one of
Speaker 2: your best albums without me sequencing. Once one sequenced, I
Speaker 2: was like, this is gonna be amazing.
Speaker 6: Thank you so much, Thank you bro, thank you, no,
Speaker 6: thank you you guys, this is all you I don't even.
Speaker 4: Want to talk about sequence, and this album is all
Speaker 4: you want to talk about it.
Speaker 5: You want to because you have to realize how important sequence,
Speaker 5: sequence is and you're putting the records in the audience
Speaker 5: it is. Make it make sense, make it a life thing,
Speaker 5: like you know, like you could project it. You know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, as as as you listening to it,
Speaker 5: where if you got to drive seven hours somewhere, you
Speaker 5: right about things, you.
Speaker 1: Know exactly now For me, you know, and part of
Speaker 1: the doing the work on myself and especially in the
Speaker 1: last four years of just like where I am now
Speaker 1: in my life, I'm more in tune to what's in here.
Speaker 2: In my heart.
Speaker 1: And for me, I always felt like I had the
Speaker 1: gift of synesthesia, where if you hear a song or
Speaker 1: hear a melody, you instantly see colors and whatnot. And
Speaker 1: for me, when I sequence records, it's almost like a
Speaker 1: it's a color spectrum, like your brightest to your to
Speaker 1: your to your darkest to your brightest. And for me, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know that the album just spoke itself. It's
Speaker 1: weird though, because when you gave me the original I
Speaker 1: don't know if you just randomly handed me the songs
Speaker 1: in a particular order or if you just had them
Speaker 1: that way as a proposed secret. But it's so funny
Speaker 1: to me because day Dreaming was like almost to the
Speaker 1: end of the album, and it was almost like the
Speaker 1: six or seven song. When I heard it, suddenly I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's the first whoa like to me,
Speaker 1: the first three seconds of that shit just sounded like
Speaker 1: like a Sumburst, like that sort of thing, and instantly
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I now see it. And
Speaker 1: so once you have that one Sumburst there, it's like,
Speaker 1: what do I want to hear after that?
Speaker 2: And after that, and so that is what makes classic
Speaker 2: albums because if you got songs and they not put
Speaker 2: in the right order, that shit could it can The
Speaker 2: story ain't told. It's like a movie. And if you
Speaker 2: if you don't do the right sequence and of them
Speaker 2: you know edits and stuff. And I gotta say, man,
Speaker 2: one last thing on that is just that, Like Pete,
Speaker 2: I was super grateful that you was like into it,
Speaker 2: like you know, because it's hard, Like you're a producer
Speaker 2: and this is this is your project and.
Speaker 6: Through every so why not you know, want that with
Speaker 6: someone who knows how to do that?
Speaker 4: Was that hard to ask?
Speaker 2: Pete?
Speaker 6: When he came to me, I was immediately with the idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was with it. He was with it, and
Speaker 2: then we just sorted through like figuring out okay yo,
Speaker 2: and then we got them interludes. And by the way,
Speaker 2: man shout out on the out show, y'all did it too.
Speaker 6: I mean that man, people's like around that record, found
Speaker 6: that joint.
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, that's what they did. Yeah, man, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I felt I got the record.
Speaker 1: You know, everything from from shooting nuts. Man, this is
Speaker 1: an awesome records.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: You two need to be commended.
Speaker 3: Me or can I just can I ask a question
Speaker 3: for Jake real quick on his note because I'm curious
Speaker 3: to know the answer about this because Jake feels like
Speaker 3: this is like the album that is going to if
Speaker 3: you care, like when all the awards, do y'all care
Speaker 3: and do y'all feel that?
Speaker 5: I mean, wow, I mean I'm still pinching myself that
Speaker 5: it's just since this album drop has just been go
Speaker 5: go go.
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm tired.
Speaker 4: Yes, so that means yes, that means yes, Pete.
Speaker 2: Yes, let me tell you do I care? Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: and like to be recognized for for this music would
Speaker 2: be amazing, like when you put your heart and soul
Speaker 2: into it. The one thing I man just said that
Speaker 2: you go operating hard. One thing I know is Pete
Speaker 2: Rock came from the heart and soul that I came
Speaker 2: from the heart and soul. Men came from the heart.
Speaker 2: Our engineer was hard and so we like this.
Speaker 6: You got Jamie to do it, showed us yesterday.
Speaker 2: Jamie stopped being at the shows. Now it's like he
Speaker 2: hard and soul. That being said, we would love to
Speaker 2: be recognized in that way. That would be amazing, Like
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna front it would probably I probably be
Speaker 2: volunteers if to see Pete Rock up on that stage.
Speaker 4: Yes, well then yes for Pete to just get the
Speaker 4: it can happen.
Speaker 1: Pete Rock got the first chair at the tonight show.
Speaker 2: Yes, I never thought that was.
Speaker 6: My first time and it's just unbelievable feeling.
Speaker 2: Man, Thank you.
Speaker 1: It's it's your time, man, it's your time. Y'all need
Speaker 1: to be applauded. Pete help. Thank you for helping com
Speaker 1: and find the one.
Speaker 6: Yes, now he knows where the one is.
Speaker 1: Now he knows where the one is.
Speaker 3: Ya.
Speaker 1: This is uh once again the incomparable Pete Rock and
Speaker 1: Common on a Quest Love Supreme on behalf of Laia
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Speaker 1: This is a great episode. Thank you guys so much.
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