WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Who Bounces Back In 2018? 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:07.560 This He is Talking Cowboys, streaming live on Dallas Cowboys 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:16.279 dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys at Play No. 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:21.799 Your hosts Mickey Spagnola, Brian broad Us, Taylor Stern, and 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:27.280 Rob Phillips welcome everybody into the SWBC Mortgage Studio. It 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:30.400 is Talking Tuesday, and we have a great show for you. 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:34.120 We are going to get into some coaching carousel rumors, 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:38.680 changes everything in between, Mickey leaving to go cover Mazoo. 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:42.080 That's right, that's a rumor. See, I got you guys already. 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:44.800 Sometimes you gotta go back to where you started. Ain't 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:47.479 that true? The roots? But and then we're gonna get 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:50.720 into some guys bounce back boys. These guys all picked 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:52.680 a couple of guys we want to highlight who need 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:56.040 to have a bounce back season, offseason, what you may. 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:59.480 But everyone obviously looks a little bit tired, or maybe 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:01.840 it's just me. I was because I'm staying up so 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:07.039 late watching that insane National Championship. Thank you for that. Yeah, 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:09.000 and it's a good tire because that was a hell 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:10.480 of a game. I know, not as good as it 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:12.040 gets right there, and I know I'm sitting in a 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:15.199 room full of SEC men right here and these guys. 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:19.280 I doubted the SEC national championship because the last time 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:23.840 we saw this LSU Alabama pretty boring, real boring. And 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:26.800 it's a matchup you've seen before, so it's kind of yeah, 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:29.119 you can see that in the fall. Didn't get across 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:32.680 the fifty that day at LSU, Yeah they didn't. Nope? Yeah, 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.880 so or a touchdown? Did they nope? True freshman is 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:38.360 all we'll be hearing about for a long time in 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:41.400 college football. You know what, can I throw something out 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:43.560 there real quick about that game? I didn't think that 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:45.920 was a gutsy move at all by Nick Saban. Oh 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:48.720 you're gonna argue with me what to change quarterbacks? Quarterbacks? 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:51.400 We had this argument upstairs. I think I think great 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:55.560 I think great coaches understand the condition of their teams. 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:58.280 I think they do. I think they have that ability 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:02.120 to understand that. You know, hey, I am we're not 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:04.320 getting it done with this guy today. We have to 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:07.000 make a change. We have to do something different. You know, 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:09.600 he saw what was happening in the first half, he 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:12.760 saw how Georgia was playing him, you know, and the 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:14.960 thing about the quarterback that he brings in that we 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:17.400 don't get to see. And I made this funny because 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:19.720 of Tom Rinaldy was over there doing a story about 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:23.560 somebody crying. You know, he was not watching practice. Nick 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:26.919 Saban watches practice. He understands what his freshman quarterback could 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:30.280 do and what he couldn't do, you know. And people say, well, 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:34.120 it's a national championship game. But you know, coaches, regardless 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:37.840 of the situation, understand their team. They understand what they 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.359 have to do to maybe give themselves a chance to 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:43.200 win the game. And I felt like that putting that 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:45.840 freshman quarterback in there, he'd seen the kid enough, the 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:49.000 staff knew what the kid was. He was capable. Heck, 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:52.320 he plays eighteen freshmen to begin with, as is well 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:54.720 fair enough because at the end, I think you're right, Brian, 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.400 you know, obviously starts him at the beginning of the 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.400 second half, but then at the end when they needed 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:01.520 just that, I think he was a terrible interception if 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:03.920 you remember that, ye was it that where they just 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:05.680 wanted to move the ball a little bit for the 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:07.840 field goal and they said, hey, we're gonna just put 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:10.160 in Jalen Hurts just for this one play the steadier 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.640 hand here. Oh he was worried that he screwed up 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:15.520 the time clock. Yeah, he brought the team to the 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:18.280 line and watched the clock tick tick tick tick. He 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:21.000 didn't he didn't run a play. Yeah, he didn't supposed 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:22.480 to run a play. Was supposed to run a play, 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.120 take a knee, or move into the middle of the field. 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:28.560 Basically saw tweet Mick that was dedicated to you. I 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:33.160 told Brian already, Papa John's greater than Papa Natos or 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:37.720 Nastos blessing sick. Am I wrong about the coach team? 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:40.680 I thought so. I don't know about you, guys, but 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:44.360 I couldn't go to sleep after right after, so I did. 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:47.920 I watched some of the post game stuff and then analysis, 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:51.760 and Tom think it was. It was Joey Galloways when 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:54.320 they were talking about pulling the quarterback who had been 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:56.840 what twenty five and two or whatever the number was. 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:00.200 He said it took some brass ones and I thought 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:04.760 so too. But I didn't disagree with him, although I 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:08.400 think he got lucky because you mentioned the one interception 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:11.360 very bad. The touchdown pass to tie the game should 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:15.080 have been an interception. If Ridley didn't intercept the interception, 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:17.520 he wasn't throwing the woodley. He was thrown to that 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:19.840 guy in the back of ze Yeah, the running back 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:21.800 that got knocked around a little bit. The freshman, Yeah, 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:25.719 made an excellent Yeah. I'm not going to disagree with you, 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:29.080 but I think he could be both. It's great coaching, 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:33.120 but it's also gutsy because, yes, you needed something to 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:36.120 juice up your team, but that stage, you're putting a 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:38.159 true freshman in that stage who really hasn't played the 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:40.440 entire season. You don't really know how he's going to react, 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:42.400 no matter what you've seen in practice. I saw his 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:46.560 numbers though, and I assume it was mop up time. Yeah, 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:50.239 but they were pretty good. Yeah, mop up time against 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.040 I understand. But the way they were portraying it on 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:56.599 television was this guy had never played like this was 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:58.560 the first time they threw him in there. See this 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:02.000 is he had been playing. Hats off to Jalen Hurt's attitude, 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:03.760 and you guys saw the way he was acting the 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.760 whole game after that change happened. First one to celebrate 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:09.839 him on that touchdown, First one to talk. He was 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:12.720 talking to ESPN. I thought he had a great attitude. 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:14.919 He was in the Huddles still engaged. He turned in 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.080 his transfer papers yet, Yeah, let's get ready for that. 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:18.760 Oh I know. Well, the only reason I say that 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:21.640 change position would be a hard position to be in 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:24.880 because obviously you're feeling anybody would feel like, hey, I 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:28.640 got you here. Yeah, well, actually a great if when 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:30.800 you when you watch the draft show, we talk about 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:33.680 a lot of those guys. It's not the quarterback, but no, 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:37.880 and I'll say this though, the freshman quarterback came in 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:40.800 and played within the pocket. And that's the problem that 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:44.440 Hurts had everything that flashed on him. He was out 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:48.360 and guys, weren't you know, he just wasn't handling the situation. 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:50.800 They will not play they in the SEC. They will 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:54.080 play some teams that have some really good defenses. George's 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:57.440 defense is exceptional. It really really is exceptional. And so 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:00.599 with that being said, though, he had to make a 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:04.320 switch there, and I don't I go back to great 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:08.159 coaches know when to make changes. Yeah, they had the 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:10.039 pulse of their team. They had the pulse of the team. 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:15.120 They see the direction of the team and Mickey, okay, okay, 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:18.640 I hope So yeah, I was saying I was coughing 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:21.200 at my point. But no. The thing about it is, 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:23.479 I just feel like though that Nick Saban has a 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:27.240 great and he has the ability because of the skins 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:30.080 on the wall. He can go to the offensive coordinator, 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:31.520 to the staff and say, all right, we're getting the 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:34.400 kid ready in the second half, and they they flip it. 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.520 They flipped there. Okay, now we can throw the ball 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:39.960 down the field. But what happened with Alabama they were 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:42.440 able to make more place from the pocket and then 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.160 when he had to run, he had the escape play 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:47.360 where he got the first down, the fourth down play. Mickey, 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:50.080 it was right that ball was going to somebody else. 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:51.720 Ridley just made a hell of a play. You know what. 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:53.240 I'm on the flip side. I know we got to 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:55.120 get back to cowboys. But that's all right, what d 0:06:55.560 --> 0:07:01.719 Dave told us, good good, good, No Sony Michelle got 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:04.360 one no carries in the fourth quarter. That's the problem 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:06.719 you have. Now. On the other side, that's the flip side, 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:09.440 I'd stay coaching. I mean, wow, he when they when 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:11.280 he had the ball, it was gold for them. They 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:14.840 tried to get cute. They started cute, they started the 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.240 what did they call it, the wild dog or yeah, 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:21.760 it worked once Yeah, although the touchdown, it's good play. Yeah, 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:23.880 now you're gonna keep doing it. Well, they that could 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:25.480 say when they hand the ball to Michelle that you 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:27.520 could see and that's why a lot of people have 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:30.160 him where they do him. And you know, the the 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:33.040 Auburn kid Johnson. I mean, there's some backs in this 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:35.400 sec the you know geist You got to keep an 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:38.080 eye on a lot of these sec backs. But yeah, 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:40.520 I think taking the ball out of Michelle's hands was 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:42.720 was you look at the you look at how they 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:44.040 were going, and then all of a sudden they had 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:47.120 the sack that knocked him out of knocked him off 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:51.160 off kilter there a little bit. But sometimes these coaches 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:53.480 again we talk about the really smart ones and we 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:57.040 talk about the ones that why do you make that decision? Again, 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.400 That's where I feel like, you have to know the 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:01.520 condition of your team. You have to know when to 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.280 go for it, you have to know when to punt it. 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:05.720 I think Seattle did a good job against the Cowboys. 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:07.440 They knew that, hey, their own offense wasn't going to 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:10.240 move the football. What do you do? Keep the Cowboys back? 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:11.720 Make the cow you know, make them have to do 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:14.320 something different, and you win the football game. Hey, I 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:17.120 like it. We're talking about SEC and we're talking about coaches, 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.880 and he brought up the Cowboys at trying to go 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:28.160 to Columbus Missouri, Columbia, Columbia. See, haven't been there, haven't 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.440 been there? What would take me there? Maybe to visit 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:33.600 my old friend Derek Dooley, who has now been promoted 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:36.440 to their offensive coordinator, and he will be leaving the 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:40.000 Cowboys as the wide receivers coach, quarterback coach, and quarterback coach. 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:43.080 Of course, yes, you got to have a quarterback to coach. Yes, 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:45.800 and that kid hadn't made his decision. He better stay. 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:48.520 Micky's going to be on Derek Dooley. But what do 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:50.800 you guys think about that move? Of course we only 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:55.199 another confirmed move is Loney to retire. Of course, Steve Loaney, 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:58.360 the tight ends coach, will be retiring. He has made 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:01.319 that clear. And then presumably this still kind of within 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:05.160 rumor because nothing has been official. Wade Wilson, I can 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:09.240 confirm that. Okay, So Wade Willson out. I think I 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:11.600 think the rumor with Dooley was for a while. I 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:14.640 think he had the itch to go back to college. Yeah, 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:17.000 I had a chance to I think re up last 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:19.400 offseason and chose not to. I think it's something he 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:21.600 was always looking at, maybe getting back into college. So 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:24.560 it's think he was looking for more responsibility to ye, 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:27.840 to kind of be his own guy again and and 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:31.640 maybe take a route to get another chance coaching in college. Yeah, 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:34.280 this is once you've been a head coach and you've 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:38.040 tasted that, you know, you've had that drink. You kind 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:42.400 of going back and trying to resuscitate your career is 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:44.200 a little bit of Okay, something you have to do. 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:46.240 We're going to see it with Josh McDaniels. I mean, 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:48.880 he can end up as the head coach with Indianapolis, 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:50.640 but he had to go back. He had to find 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:54.920 a way to kind of re re established and re established, 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:58.200 reinvent guy's a good word. Mickey, re established his name, 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.080 the credibility, you know, Eric Dooley, You look at what 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:03.400 they were able to do, you know, receiver wise, it 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:05.680 didn't show up last year, but you look at with 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:08.080 Beasley and Dez Bryant, guys like that. I mean, he's 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.040 done what he had to do. It looked like, you know, 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:13.719 you had does Bryant sideline outburst and stuff. Dully, you 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:15.640 know he handled I mean that's a lot of egos 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:17.760 in that room, a lot of egos, and you know 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.600 that's that's something. But you know, once these guys get 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:23.520 that taste of being a head coach, it's it's okay, 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:26.000 how can I get back to that level? And you know, 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:27.559 Dully will do. I think he'll do a fine job 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:29.480 at Missouri, I really do. I think he's a very 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:33.400 bright coach. You know, he's he's very well respected and uh, 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.400 you know, if he gets another opportunity at East Carolina 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:38.640 or Louisiana Tech or one of those places, much like 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.480 you know Lane Kiffin has done. You know at Florida Atlantic, 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:43.439 he next thing. I mean he signed a big deal. 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:46.079 But you never know. At Saving Coaching tree Man, Yep, 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:49.480 it's it's vast. Yeah, just tell them make sure you're 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:53.920 patient with all those young Mickey's there in Jay school. Yeah, 0:10:53.960 --> 0:11:01.600 that's part of the education. As to mckheemy, just keep 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:04.280 coming out of there. Yeah. Well, with the issues with 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:07.040 the wide receivers you had this last year, you know, 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:09.520 how do you see that impacting the position with the 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:12.480 new yea, I'm glad you went that direction. And you know, 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:16.280 This is my hope for the Cowboys. I hope that 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:21.560 they're they do and usually you'll get assistance that come 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:26.040 from programs that have been released, maybe the Colts, the Bears, 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:28.760 Arizona guys like that. You know, you have an opportunity 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:31.520 to the Raiders, you know, you have an opportunity to 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:34.040 maybe hire somebody. I hope for the sake of the 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:37.240 staff that they do go that route of outside and 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:41.360 nothing against uh, you know, Valero and guys like that. 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:43.920 They're the young coaches here and I understand trying to 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:46.680 get elevated and get promoted, but I hope for the 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:50.040 sake of having different ideas. I hope for the sake 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:53.800 of of back and forth. Hey, at this place, we 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:57.120 did this, you know, receiver wise, route wise, maybe you're 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:58.880 coming from a place. Maybe you get a guy that 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.920 is very well respected as a teacher first and then 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:04.760 his ability to interact with the players, but come up 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:07.280 with ideas to say, and this is their down package, 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:08.920 this is what we did. Well, you guys are pretty 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:10.760 good at that. Well, tell me about you know. I 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:16.120 hope that they that that that that transpires with how 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:18.559 they rebuild this coaching staff, because it's gonna be several 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:21.800 openings on it as well. Absolutely, and I think I 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:28.520 think that's their intention, counter to what everybody's trying to 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:32.719 report here lately. UM. I think that they're going to 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:36.880 take their time and they're going to search what's available 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:40.360 and see what their options are, and not just saying, okay, 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.680 you get this job, right, get this job. I think 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:48.199 that they'll do a thorough suit diligence and look, they 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:52.720 know people right, right, will knows people yes, uh so, 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:56.920 And they're obviously listening to Steven yesterday. They're in no 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.199 hurry to do any of this stuff because you now 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.240 everybody wants no, well what are you gonna do with this? 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:02.760 What are you gonna do with that? And Stephen goes, 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:06.880 I think we're only one week away from the season ending, 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:10.679 and you just don't make emotional decisions. You can make 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:14.000 emotional decisions on Twitter if you want, you know, and 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:17.960 and whatever else in the paper or whatever, but you 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:20.440 got to sit back and kind of look at the 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:24.000 whole picture before you start doing things, and look and see, 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:27.560 what what are my options at at at at wide 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:30.600 receiver coach? You what are my options at the quarterback coach? 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:33.480 And I think that there's a lot of options out 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:36.000 there that they have to consider. We've seen this staff 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:39.640 go through January through the Senior Bowl until they made 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:43.120 decisions on staff. In fact, they've held interviews at the 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:46.120 Senior Bowl before with coaches that kind of congregate there. 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:48.560 It's almost like an unofficial job. Fair at times, it is. 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:52.120 It wasn't hard for yeah a minute, Yeah, yeah, it 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:56.360 almost is an official job. Sad, saddest things you'll ever 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:59.400 see that in scouts. Yeah, walking around it's going on 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.520 now too. Yeah, I think that, you know, Mickey, I 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.040 like what I'm hearing because Mickey obviously has got this 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:07.040 finger on the pulse of what's going on on that 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:10.440 side of the building and next. I appreciate that. I 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:14.120 wonder though, like I said to me, like the Kellen 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:16.600 Moore stuff, Yeah, talk to him if that's what you 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:18.120 want to do. But you know, if you if there 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:21.480 are other ideas out there, by all means, explore those 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:24.400 other ideas, try and try and think of things if 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:26.160 you want to, if you really want to shake some 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:27.920 things up, and I mean shake it up in a 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:30.920 positive way, I don't mean the same. Okay, let's just 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:33.640 keep doing this, doing this, doing this because the head, 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:36.400 the offensive coordinator, wants to do it this way. I 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:39.880 think having other ideas coming into the building always does 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:43.120 things better for you. And I think Steven yesterday when 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.480 they basically acted like when they were asking the questions 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:49.320 on one oh five three the fan that Kellen Moore 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:52.760 was the quarterbacks coach, he said, well, that's not true. Yeah, 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:59.560 nothing's been finalized. So that tells me that they're there. 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:01.920 They are their planet. And he said it. They're planning 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:04.840 on talking to him, But that doesn't mean he's going 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:07.720 to be the guy. He could be the assistant assistant 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:12.680 quarterback coach. Yeah, like Colombo is king bring a guy along. 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:15.000 That doesn't mean he's going to be the guy telling 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.920 Dak Prescott what to do. Now, if you get in 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:20.520 a bind and you don't find what you're looking for, 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.560 well you've got Jason Garrett on the staff. You've got 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:26.320 Scott Linahan on the staff. Those guys can take care 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:30.960 of the quarterback U. So yeah, some thoughts that maybe 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:33.800 that was going on. Yeah, I think that. I mean, 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.400 you know, and nothing. I love Wade Wilson, I really 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:38.520 really do. I can understand a little bit. I mean, 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:40.600 he's one of the reasons why you have Dak Prescott. 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:42.320 He did the leg work on him, so give him 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:45.000 credit for that. But really the last three years, I 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.560 mean it seems like to me watching practice, Scott Linahan 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:49.440 has a big hand in what goes on with the 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:52.520 quarterbacks here. You know, maybe Wade Wilson runs the meeting. 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:55.640 Oh look at who's still here at Kellen Moore. Yeah, yeah, 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.360 that's absolutely right. Well, a lot of people, these rumors 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:00.360 of Kellen Moore going into coaching, I don't even enough 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:02.520 that you can call them rumors. I think he's expressed 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:05.440 it himself. You know last year when he had his injury, 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:08.360 he really enjoyed doing all of that, you know, kind 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.560 of helping out where he could. You look at two 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:13.440 if I'm right, Mickey and rob On Taylor, I think 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.720 that when they signed their futures, he was not one 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:18.520 of the practice guys. He wasn't And can he has. 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:20.840 He'd been in the league long enough to where he doesn't. 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:24.320 I haven't double checked that. If he's can he be 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:26.480 a future guy. But you're right, and Stephen said on 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:31.000 the radio yesterday that he does. Kellen he thinks does 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:33.040 as expressed, he wants to be a coach, now, yeah, 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:35.720 so that would you know. That's and he's from a 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:38.200 football family. His father coached him in high school, was 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:41.440 a four time state champion in the Washington State. I mean, 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:43.640 it's it's gonna take you one more. It's kind of 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:49.640 in his blood. His grandfather was a pretty renowned high 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:53.320 school basketball coach in the Chicago area. It's a matter 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:56.800 of fact, I found out after I did research on 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:01.680 him that his grandfather actually in the fifties coached at 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:05.479 my high school. Wow, Kellen helped with the MAVs too. Yeah, 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:10.640 he chipped in, all right, So there there's some coaching 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:13.800 bloodlines there. And you know, when he was on IR 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.959 last year, they don't take IR guys to the Way games, 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:20.040 but they brought him. He was helping kind of an 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:24.040 ad hoc coach. So yeah, I'm sure they would like 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:26.080 to keep him and groom him, but that doesn't mean 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:29.680 they're just automatically giving him the job. My people here 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.240 who have been here so long long enough to know 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:34.600 this answer to this question. Wade Wilson when he was 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:37.240 hired on obviously played for the Cowboys. How was that 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:40.439 How did he kind of transition into coaching? You know, 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:42.280 a lot of people don't realize that Wade Wilson did 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:44.400 in fact play for the cow Yeah, but he actually 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:47.359 played nineteen years in the league. It was he was 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:51.040 some guy off the street nineteen years. Yeah. I remember 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:53.480 Wade when he finished up and then came here. He 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:57.600 was with Jack Riley and that Dave Campbell administration that 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:01.040 we all went through. And then then he went away 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:04.560 from Chicago for about three years, three or four years, 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:07.200 and then came back. So yeah, he's he's been around. 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:09.320 You know, I have a ton of respect for him, 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:12.400 I really really do. I he's a he's a guy 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:15.200 that I always thought he had a really good eye 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:18.600 for quarterback play. And I mean he's been around some 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.679 great quarterbacks in his life as a backup guy, you know, 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:24.280 a lot like Jason Garrett. He's been around some some 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:27.359 backup quarterbacks in this day. So I you know, I 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:29.720 always respected a guy at that. But again, I think 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:34.320 that his time was not really coaching the last three 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:37.000 years since Scotland hands man, I think that's been frustrating 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:39.200 to him. Yeah, but it was frustrating. You know. It 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:41.720 was funny about Wade is he really he really enjoyed 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:44.600 that aspect of the job. You know, how long was 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:46.879 he a quarterbacks coach in the league where that was 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:49.920 his one job. I think he's had oppres He's had 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:52.560 opportunities to be a coordinator, maybe even a head coach, 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:54.480 and he just kind of enjoyed that role that he 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:57.760 was in. So, um, you know, it issues to fill. 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:00.480 So we'll see, I will say, Dak if Kellen Moore 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:04.040 does become the guy. 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