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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast is ready for a season eleven.

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Speaker 2: Whoa from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's Around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: My name is Dan Handsis I got heroes here? Greg Rosenthal,

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Speaker 2: Mark Sessler? Yes, uh, Season eleven of Around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: It really does feel like football is back now, finally, Greg.

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Speaker 3: Rosen, football is back.

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Speaker 4: We don't have to sleep again before seeing that game,

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Speaker 4: and it's exciting. It felt like Christmas morning.

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Speaker 5: When I go back and look at some of the

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Speaker 5: early years that we did this show, we look like

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Speaker 5: children compared to the way we look today.

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Speaker 3: We have aged.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we are now old enough that my child woke

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Speaker 4: up this morning and was acting like it was Christmas morning,

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Speaker 4: excited for this game.

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Speaker 1: You've trained that child, well.

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Speaker 3: I haven't. He makes all of his own decisions. It's

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Speaker 3: like the father of Todd Marian. If anything, he pushes back.

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Speaker 2: Yes, this is a new world for Around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: We have the launch of our NFL Plus partnership. The

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Speaker 2: first episode is up later today Thursday. Also, you have

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Speaker 2: our preview show here where we preview all of the

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Speaker 2: non prime time games that's coming up right now and

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Speaker 2: then later tonight in your feed you'll get yes, our

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Speaker 2: reaction to the kickoff opener between the Chiefs and Lions.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of ATM goodness coming your way.

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Speaker 1: Try to keep up. That's all we can say.

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Speaker 3: It's our biggest season by far, content wise.

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Speaker 1: Love it, Love it.

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Speaker 2: That reminds me we got to come up with some

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Speaker 2: new catchphrases to the NFL. We always like to help

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Speaker 2: them out. Send some things up to Park Avenue.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you've come up with some absolute advertising gems in

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Speaker 5: the past.

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Speaker 2: They never take them though, they don't all right. Well,

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Speaker 2: that's something I'm gonna work on. All right, So we

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Speaker 2: got much to get to because there are.

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Speaker 1: Thirty two Thames three prime time games?

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Speaker 3: Did those Wednesday three.

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Speaker 1: Three times? That means thirteen games to talk about. Greg.

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Speaker 2: I hate to say it because it eats me up,

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Speaker 2: but you are the defending LOCKS champion, which means you

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Speaker 2: get the first overall pick. It is the ATM Game

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Speaker 2: of the Week presented by Draft Kings.

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Speaker 4: It's all yours and a lot of places. I could

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Speaker 4: go here, Where.

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Speaker 3: Is he gonna go?

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Speaker 2: I know, I know you really, I'm I'm nervous because

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Speaker 2: I got the second pick and I was kind of

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Speaker 2: torn asunder if he picks what I think he's gonna

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Speaker 2: pick here.

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Speaker 4: I think you want me to take a certain game,

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Speaker 4: but I'm not gonna take it. I want to start

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Speaker 4: my week in the hands of the best, and that's

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Speaker 4: Tony Romo and that's Jim Nance, and they're calling Eagles

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Speaker 4: Patriots in the afternoon. I just feel like that's the

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Speaker 4: way for me to start my season, start my week.

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Speaker 4: Eagles favored by four in this game, which sounds about right.

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Speaker 4: But I think the new England Patriots defense on some

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Speaker 4: level is a great first test for this Philadelphia Eagles

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Speaker 4: offense because they're built to stop the run, and the

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Speaker 4: Eagles showed us last year they can beat you any

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Speaker 4: different kind of way. But the reason that Bill Belichick

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Speaker 4: has been building up this defense as he has for

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Speaker 4: the last three or four years, and he's sort of

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Speaker 4: mentioned that the whole franchise reset after Brady left, and

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Speaker 4: they've been building this team up, and you look at

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Speaker 4: it now and suddenly I think he has the defense

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Speaker 4: the Eagles want to do on the ground, and then

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Speaker 4: that leaves aj Brown and Devonte Smith on the outside

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Speaker 4: in one on one matchups. That sure, the Eagles are

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Speaker 4: But I do think if you lined up all the

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Speaker 4: is a very tough first test if you own some

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Speaker 5: It's a yeah, It's a super intriguing matchup for that reason.

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Speaker 5: I do go back, though, and look at one area

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Speaker 5: that the Patriots struggled with a year ago was against

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Speaker 5: And now you're dealing with Jalen Hurts, who is maybe

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Speaker 3: So that's the challenge right there, is like I.

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Speaker 5: Don't really see an Eagles team that comes out with

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Speaker 5: Like I feel like this is the team that can

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Speaker 4: Bill O'Brien has a lot of things. He's not a

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Speaker 4: think that Patrio's gonna win this, and you know you

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Speaker 4: don't like it. Is this the pick that I, by

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Speaker 4: the way, don't let know what.

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Speaker 2: Feel like we should overlook because what you're saying on

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Speaker 2: the surface is right mark that you look at the

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Speaker 2: Eagles and they look flawless.

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Speaker 1: They look impeccable. But that happens all the time.

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Speaker 2: Like we look at a team that that kick butt

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Speaker 2: last year and it all came together and then you

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Speaker 2: just assume it's going to happen again. I'm excited to

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Speaker 2: test that Belichick has had all summer to scheme here

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Speaker 2: that I'm excited to see is finally because you guys know,

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Speaker 2: I loathe the preseason, so I don't take anything out

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Speaker 1: This game and last year it was last year.

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Speaker 2: Sure, I'm not gonna put it in the same way

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Speaker 2: I look at like Trevor Lawrence's first year. I'm not

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Speaker 2: all that. But if he plays well in this game

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Speaker 2: and they, let's say they shocked the Eagles at home,

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Speaker 2: like all this talk in the summer about the AFC

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Speaker 4: They sort of have to because their schedules so difficult

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Speaker 4: If mac Jones looks average in those games, or even

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Speaker 4: a time for a reset. And I just think the

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Speaker 4: crunched thet They put Riley Reef on injured reserve this week.

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Speaker 4: I don't know who's playing right tackle. They say it

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Speaker 4: offensive line was a mess in the preseason, so that

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Speaker 5: You do up two new coordinators. The offensive coordinator has

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Speaker 5: known Jaalen Hurts for ages like there. I mean, he

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Speaker 5: that could unleas the pass rush. It's like, this is

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Speaker 5: not an easy matchup for mac Jones at all, and

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's really It'll be a litmus test,

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Speaker 3: And I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Just because Tom Brady's gonna be their pre game being celebrated,

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Speaker 5: is that enough emotionally to lift his team.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you don't lose with Tom with number twelve, he's

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Speaker 4: not playing. He's gonna gonna inspire them. That's what they

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Speaker 4: need to get ready for those stories if they win

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Speaker 4: that Tom Brady is if they're doing pregames not half presents,

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Speaker 4: I don't even know they're honoring him. Good, good point.

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Speaker 4: I don't really know when they're honoring him, but it's.

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Speaker 2: That matters to me if they pre game honor him.

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Speaker 2: I'm all over the Patriots on this one. If it's

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Speaker 2: a half time, it's already gonna be two las, they're

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Speaker 3: I think you got to have a raucous pregame fest

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Speaker 2: Tell you where the Patriots think if they're too noivous

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Speaker 3: I've got an answer.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what is it?

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Speaker 4: He is going to address the crowd during a halftime ceremony.

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Speaker 3: That's worrisome. I guess give me the Eagles.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would rather go play. Don't you just want

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Speaker 5: to fire in the place up pregame?

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Speaker 3: I think he should be fired up. It's week one.

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Speaker 1: Eagles are good. Though this is a battle tested, loaded roster.

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Speaker 3: They are good.

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Speaker 2: They could they could just as easily. It's a lot

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Speaker 2: like there's a there's another world where this is forty

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm just saying, if you line up the front

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Speaker 4: You got Detrich Wise has been there for what six

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Speaker 4: Because as a rookie Guy Och Barmore, I would take

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Speaker 3: I take them good for you?

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Speaker 1: I like it. So you got that juice, you know?

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Speaker 1: I like that. Greg. We need I need that fan.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're the underhill here in this room.

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Speaker 2: All right, pick two, easy one for me, And I'm

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Speaker 2: very happy it's here. And it's no disrespect to you, Mark,

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Speaker 2: because I know it's one of your favorite teams, the

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Speaker 3: No way that I was last into three.

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Speaker 2: The Pittsburgh Steelers will host the San Francisco forteen nine

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Speaker 1: It is now.

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Speaker 2: The Niners are laying two points. It's minus two. That

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Speaker 5: You got George Kittle is returned to return to practice

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Speaker 3: I think these are huge X factors for the night.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the largest guaranteed money for defensive player, you know,

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Speaker 3: That was the word I was really looking at.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just wonder all this talk about the Steelers,

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Speaker 2: That's very hard, That's very difficult because in both cases,

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Speaker 2: Pickett was excellent in the last eight games. As a team,

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Speaker 2: I mean, but my point is like and Purty Purty

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Speaker 2: So right now, give me Purdy and a battle of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he had Christian McCaffrey around them, Deebo, Samuel,

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Speaker 3: You must have him winning this game. I mean, you're

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Speaker 3: all in on the Steelers.

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Speaker 5: This is this is a tough I do and I

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Speaker 2: Well, if you have him, if you have him as

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Speaker 5: Because it's in Pittsburgh. You know, you got a West team,

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Speaker 3: You're locking this up.

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Speaker 5: No, these are the mental games that I felt for

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Speaker 1: I I, uh, but you're picking Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: I'll pick Pittsburgh to win in a very tight game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think two points sound sounds right to me.

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Speaker 4: This should be just about a pick. This is the

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Speaker 4: right time of year to face the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys remember way back in

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Speaker 4: nine straight lasses and ever since then they've been really poor.

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Speaker 3: Last season, remember that, not really, I don't.

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Speaker 4: Know, really, you don't remember that they were like in

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Speaker 1: Was that Lance's quarterback or for games?

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Speaker 1: Okay, it totally different.

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Speaker 3: You were ten in the monsoon, but they were one

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Speaker 1: I got right, yeah, three out it we're back now.

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Speaker 4: Three and three the year before that, and three and

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Speaker 1: Now, yeah, our division has changed to mark, you have

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 5: Well, uh, I think that the juiciness of these contests

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Speaker 5: very wed to the concept of what the Atlanta Falcons

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Speaker 3: I mean, look at the rest of the board. When

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Speaker 3: Chris Meyers goes third overall.

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Speaker 5: I am not no matter what you know that the

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Speaker 1: Reason couple still on the board here.

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Speaker 5: But but I I'm going with what fascinates me, and

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Speaker 5: I think that I think this. I think by week

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Speaker 3: And I don't know, because me and you are in

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Speaker 2: That was actually really funny because Mark was actually looking

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Speaker 2: gonna be really good, Like, please, let's go into our

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Speaker 2: little Falcons world and rise up together.

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Speaker 5: I don't I don't think that it's even let me

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Speaker 5: better take care of business at home against the number

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Speaker 5: one absolutely.

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Speaker 1: A rookie quarterback with really not a lot around them.

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Speaker 2: The Panthers clearly in a place where they're figuring things out,

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Speaker 2: and that's okay.

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Speaker 1: Win the damn game. They will go. Want to know here,

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Speaker 1: they will.

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Speaker 3: If there's anything I'm most concerned about for Carolina's.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be a jerk on Sunday night. If

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Speaker 3: Well we will be a jerk on Monday night at

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Speaker 3: the Jets don't show.

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Speaker 5: The Falcons already started doing last year what it is

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Speaker 5: Arthur Smith has already shown an ability to run this offense.

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Speaker 5: at wide receiver. It all comes down to Desmond Ridder.

441
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Speaker 5: I get it, but I don't think Desmond Ridder is

442
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Speaker 5: I don't think he needs to be the absolute beating

443
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Speaker 5: heart centerpiece of what they're trying to do on offense.

444
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Speaker 1: Now, I tell that to be don't be a liability.

445
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Speaker 1: I suit.

446
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Speaker 5: I think if you go and look at you know,

447
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 5: he got put into a tough situation post Mariota last season,

448
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 5: but he had a couple quarters and a couple of

449
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Speaker 5: games where you started to see that. I can see

450
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Speaker 5: why the team believes in them, why they didn't go

451
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Speaker 5: trade for Ryan Tannehill. We'll find out in real games

452
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Speaker 5: if you can do it. I think this Carolina front

453
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Speaker 5: seven is the kind of front seven someone like Derek

454
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Speaker 5: Brown could be a difference maker in terms of stopping

455
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Speaker 5: the run, making a difference. I don't know where we

456
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Speaker 5: are with Brian Burns. He's sort of doing a hold

457
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Speaker 5: in city situation and.

458
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Speaker 4: But now he's back again. He's back, but I think

459
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 4: he's bad.

460
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Speaker 5: They're calling it sort of a day by day in

461
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Speaker 5: terms of how much work he gets. I just I

462
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 5: think this is I think Bryce Young is going to

463
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Speaker 5: have a bit of a tough scenario out of the game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they need that.

465
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Speaker 2: Brian Burns no is also the reason he's doing this,

466
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Speaker 2: which I don't like the move, and I understand, go

467
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Speaker 2: get paid. I get it, but this this late It

468
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,959
Speaker 2: reminds me when Summer Slam ninety one, where Ultimate Warrior

469
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 2: told the Vince McMahon the day before the big tag

470
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Speaker 2: team bout of Hogan and Warrior against Colonel Mustafa and

471
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Speaker 2: Sergeant Slaughter is very Gulf war heavy Warrior goes, if

472
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Speaker 2: you don't give me like one hundred percent raise, I'm

473
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Speaker 2: not going to show up at the at the venue.

474
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Speaker 2: And Vince is like, all right, we'll give you your raise,

475
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 2: And he showed up at the venue. He wrestled and

476
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Speaker 2: then Vince fired his ass as soon as the matress over.

477
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying the Panthers.

478
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Speaker 1: Should do that, but he's He's now in a weird move.

479
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 1: He's doing an ultimate warrior move. But you never never

480
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Speaker 1: go full warrior.

481
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Speaker 2: He had twelve and a half sacks, twenty two QB hits,

482
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Speaker 2: seven teen tackles for loss last year, all career highs.

483
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 2: Nor other Panthers player had more than seven sacks last year.

484
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 2: So they need him to give that push and to

485
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Speaker 2: make a young quarterback like Desmond Ridder uncomfortable.

486
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Speaker 4: Well, he's also coming off a fractured ankle. He's very

487
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Speaker 4: high on my twenty twenty four free agents list. He's

488
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Speaker 4: a guy who was part of one of the most

489
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Speaker 4: shocking near trades in NFL history in terms of being

490
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Speaker 4: turned down when the Panthers, this is malpractice, turned down

491
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Speaker 4: multiple rams first round picks for Brian Burns. Do you

492
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Speaker 4: know how good the car. I know Brian Burns is

493
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Speaker 4: a great player. Do you know how good the Panthers

494
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Speaker 4: would feel right now to own the next two Rams

495
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Speaker 4: first round picks and Bryce Young?

496
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Speaker 1: Those could be top ten ts.

497
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Speaker 4: That is, that was a terrible trade offer, and it

498
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 4: was even worse, and it was because I think there

499
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 4: was a vacuum of power and ownership got involved. I

500
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 4: am a little worried that they are affront that could

501
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Speaker 4: slow down Atlanta compare to other teams. You mentioned Brown

502
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Speaker 4: and Burns and Justin Houston's there now, and they're somewhat familiar.

503
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Speaker 4: It's a new defensive coordinator at zero. Ever, we'll see though,

504
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 4: because that defense usually kind of invites you to run.

505
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 4: They won't against Atlanta. But they are a defense that's

506
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 4: trying to prevent the big play. But I just think

507
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 4: this isn't Bijon and Arthur Smith in your one. It's

508
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 4: Bijon in year one and Arthur Smith in this offensive

509
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 4: line in year three. And you said they can't lose

510
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 4: this game, and they're not gonna because over here on

511
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Speaker 4: Falcons Corner, I'm locking up the Falcons let go.

512
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Speaker 1: I like it. That's a good lock.

513
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Speaker 2: And again, even though I get a little bit annoyed

514
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,360
Speaker 2: because there's so much guessing up. I like the Falcons too.

515
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 2: I like their chances to be competitive a hang and

516
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Speaker 2: maybe even win this division.

517
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Speaker 1: So I think that's a I think it's a good lock.

518
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Speaker 2: And just for when I say I'm gonna be a jerk,

519
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 2: it's gonna be like you get the Panthers aren't a

520
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 2: very good football team. Now, you could be a jerk

521
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 2: to me if the Bills stop the Jets. But it's

522
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,479
Speaker 2: the Bills, Okay, that's a that's a monster you are.

523
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 3: We're being childish toy that we're gonna cut on the jem.

524
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's not.

525
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 2: It's more with My point is like time, if we

526
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 2: agree that the Falcons, it's time to take the next step,

527
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 2: you gotta win. Here's a nice yes, it's not a

528
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 2: platter for you to get your season going in a

529
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Speaker 2: good way.

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Speaker 3: I don't think anyone would would disagree with your concept.

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Speaker 4: And I one quick thing is just I do think

532
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Speaker 4: this is a nice first game for Bryce Young. I

533
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Speaker 4: do buy the idea that Frank Reich was not showing

534
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 4: anything in the preseason, and I saw some nice anticipation,

535
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 4: but Young. And the reason I think it's a nice

536
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 4: first matchup is I'll believe the Falcons pass rush when

537
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 4: I see it. They haven't had one in about fifteen

538
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 4: years since they're John Abraham. I mean, so they they

539
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 4: got an okay offensive line. Probably might be bad, but

540
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 4: if they're ever gonna look good, it's this week. And

541
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Speaker 4: Bryce Young and Frank Reich, like I think this is

542
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Speaker 4: a good first matchup for Young to get his feet with.

543
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Speaker 2: All Right, we're three games in. Let's take a break

544
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Speaker 2: and we'll continue to hit Week one preview.

545
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Speaker 1: All Right, we're back.

546
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Speaker 3: I love it.

547
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Speaker 1: We are right.

548
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Speaker 2: Give me some of that music, Give me some of

549
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 2: that skittles, Sam Spence, we are back. Baby Up as

550
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 2: she rises one of the classics.

551
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: You know, from the NFL film's music half.

552
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Speaker 4: An anthem fitting after the rise up of the Atlanta Falcons.

553
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Speaker 1: He just could happen, certainly within the range of outcomes

554
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Speaker 1: this season.

555
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Speaker 7: But just as we went from a dance speech and

556
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 7: we gotta hit five minutes per game to a minute

557
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Speaker 7: of total silence as Dan conduct the air.

558
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Speaker 2: This is what matters up. She rises, up as she rises.

559
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Speaker 2: You know what rises in the twenty twenty three season.

560
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Speaker 1: Coming up. Pick four snakes back to you.

561
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Speaker 3: I want to say one thing.

562
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Speaker 5: I remember when we spoke with fabulous play by play

563
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 5: man Kevin Hardin that he told us on the mornings

564
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 5: before he announced games, he'd sit in his hotel room

565
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 5: in his bedclothing, listening to NFL films blasting off of.

566
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Speaker 1: I love that man.

567
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 3: He's a great guy and you can see it in

568
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 3: his production.

569
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Speaker 2: Tradition with whenever my father or my brother comes to

570
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, I'll be out working, we're doing the podcast.

571
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 2: I will set in the hotel room and I'll leave

572
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 2: a key for him downstairs. I'll have the Sam Spence

573
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 2: playlist on repeat so they come into the room to Spence.

574
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's the power of that music in

575
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Speaker 2: our great sport.

576
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Speaker 5: All right, I'm gonna pick a match up that hearkens

577
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 5: back to those old days of NFL glory. The Green

578
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 5: Bay Packers at the Chicago Bears Bears minus one Bears

579
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Speaker 5: have lost good pick I like this, Yeah, you know what,

580
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 5: you know what's different. I would have avoided this matchup

581
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 5: for years on ends because the Packers, to me and

582
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 5: the Bears were a lost cause. But the Packers were

583
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 5: sort of the same story over and over, and I

584
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 5: think this is the time. This is the year where

585
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 5: Green Bay with Jordan Love, with an incredibly young, fascinating

586
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 5: group of offensive players, is completely different and new to me.

587
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 3: And I'm intrigued.

588
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 5: And it has to do with the Bears too, because

589
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 5: I think we've talked about it all offseason and there's

590
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 5: been a bit of assumption that Justin Field is just

591
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 5: going to do what Jalen Hurts did and develop like that.

592
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 5: We don't know that at all, but he certainly has

593
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 5: a better shot around him to become a better passer

594
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 5: with DJ Moore there, Chase Claypool up and down, but

595
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 5: he's in that system for another year.

596
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Speaker 3: I like Cole Kmet.

597
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 5: I think this is a team that last year they

598
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 5: averaged one hundred and thirty passing yards per game, the

599
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 5: fewest in the NFL by a lot. That's got to change.

600
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Speaker 5: You've got to have a more balanced offense. I think

601
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 5: they know that.

602
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Speaker 3: Flip side.

603
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Speaker 5: I just I cannot wait to see what a month

604
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 5: plus of Jordan Love is where we are in a month,

605
00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 5: and I think this is a good test.

606
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Speaker 3: Right out of the gate.

607
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 5: Chicago's defense, their pass rush is not gonna scare anyone

608
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 5: but Christian Watson, Romeo Dobbs dealing with hamstrings. So I

609
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 5: want to monitor see where that where those guys are

610
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 5: on offense. If you get what the late light season

611
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 5: version of Watson. I think Jordan Love can have a

612
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 5: fast start to this season. And this Packers team being

613
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 5: overlooked a little bit, they have everything inside of them

614
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 5: to win the division if they need to.

615
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Speaker 3: And I think you start strong in Chicago.

616
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Speaker 4: You mentioned Watson though, and that came out of nowhere,

617
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 4: and it's such a bad deal. Dobbs returned to practice Thursday.

618
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 4: Christian Watson did not I mean this. I love the

619
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 4: young group that they have. It's not a deep young group,

620
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,719
Speaker 4: and the backups that they have behind Watson and Dobbs,

621
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 4: like it gets thin real fast. Jayden Reid, I think

622
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 4: will be a nice rookie slot receiver. It's a rookie

623
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Speaker 4: slot receiver. You know who also is in practice. It's

624
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 4: August thirtieth. Tell me if you've heard this one before.

625
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 4: All Pro left tackle David Bachtiari well and there when

626
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 4: since August thirtieth, and and they're saying like maybe they

627
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 4: know no one knows he's been on a bike and

628
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 4: they're like, maybe it's these veteran rest days. It's like,

629
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 4: he hasn't practiced in pads in a week and a

630
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 4: half and we're just back.

631
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 3: Nobody knows.

632
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 4: Uh, they're calling it veteran rest days for now, but

633
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 4: he hasn't practiced. It's a little hard to imagine. And

634
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 4: that that's a bummer to me because I was so

635
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 4: excited to see what this offense looks like. I think

636
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 4: the offensive line for the Packers could be special, but

637
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 4: Bachtiari is such a huge part of that psychically, don't

638
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 4: you and this is why it's.

639
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 3: Such a good pick. Don't you just feel like this

640
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 3: this is.

641
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 4: One of the biggest games of Week one just for

642
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 4: each fan base, Like a division game makes a Week

643
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 4: one feel game feel bigger to me, and these two

644
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 4: teams kind of starting over. I just feel like this

645
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 4: game has outsized importance for both these teams, especially the Bears.

646
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 4: If you lose to the Jordan Love Packers, we're a

647
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 4: little banged up in Week one. That's a really tough

648
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 4: way to start your season. You win it, you're fly

649
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 4: it well.

650
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 2: Remember remember there was another quarterback in Green Bay before

651
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: Jordan Love who owned the Chicago Bears and let them

652
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: know it infamously. If you're from the Midwest, and now

653
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: you're right. If you're a Bears fan, this season is

654
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 2: the fresh start and the first thing you want to do.

655
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 2: It's a perfect setup. Schedule wise, it's kick the Packers

656
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: ass and announced announced. Well, listen, we maybe never got

657
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 2: to Rogers, but that's over now. And if they come

658
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 2: out of this game and they play well, and the

659
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: offense looks better and the defense handles the business and

660
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: doesn't let Jordan Love become a story of Week one,

661
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: the Bears are loving it, and I think they I

662
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: think they trended downward in terms of what people when

663
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: they were talking about who's like a wild card team?

664
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 2: Could who can the Bears compete in the division? You

665
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: heard less of that, I felt like as the summer

666
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: went along, But I wouldn't rule it out. I think

667
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 2: this division is wide open. And again, like I said earlier,

668
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: if you get that big Week one win, like I

669
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: was talking about the Patriots, it kind of changes the

670
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: complexion of everything overnight.

671
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 5: Well, and it would be huge for Matt Ibraflus, who

672
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 5: I still is somewhat of an anonymous character. The Bears

673
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 5: certainly line up as a team that, after the win

674
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 5: total year ago, could jump up by six seven wins.

675
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 5: I think they're that kind of team. I just think

676
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 5: it does so much matter on justin field.

677
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 4: Just give me a little pass rush here, Bears. I mean,

678
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 4: you know they didn't go out and get any one.

679
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 4: They didn't. You got in gotway, but they didn't get enough.

680
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 4: And without Bachtiari, maybe there's a vulnerability there. It's probably

681
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 4: Rashad Weaver at left tackle. But if Jordan Love's protected,

682
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 4: it will get a good chance to see. To me,

683
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 4: the test of if you can be an NFL quarterback

684
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 4: is if you're protected, can you deliver? It's a fairly

685
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 4: low bar. I would say twenty to twenty five guys

686
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 4: can do that every week. Like Teddy Bridgewater. You protect him,

687
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 4: he's gonna be solid. If you protect Love and you

688
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 4: have a great running game and I think a good

689
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 4: offensive line and they have a good matchup here, I

690
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 4: think he's gonna be a safer quarterback than people expect.

691
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 3: But it's a big test. We haven't seen it.

692
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: This seems impossible.

693
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: Last known on this game true in twenty twenty two,

694
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: Modern football the Bears averaged one hundred and thirty and

695
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 2: a half passing yards per game.

696
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 5: Well, we met, like as mentioned, it's but it was

697
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 5: by far the lowest in the NFL.

698
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: That is, Oh did you say that much?

699
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, but the counter was like they had the most

700
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 5: dangerous ground attack out there.

701
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: No, but I feel like you need to get that

702
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: number up there.

703
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: You got to get a little and they and the

704
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: reason why, the in part that the pass rush is

705
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: not where it is and the defense has a long

706
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 2: way to go, is that they kind of use this

707
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: offense to build around field. So you're gonna want to

708
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: see it. Yeah, he was pretty electric before he got

709
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: hurt again. Uh, that stretch in November around he looked

710
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 2: like he was about to take over the league. That

711
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: guy hit the ground running.

712
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: This year a lot to not to find out. All right,

713
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: I'm up.

714
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 4: This is where, like the Great Game, gms really separate

715
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 4: themselves in the middle craft.

716
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 2: I want to like, I want to pick a late

717
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 2: game here, and I want to pick a game that

718
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 2: I want to.

719
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: I want to watch Here's.

720
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 3: That is the point thinking out loud.

721
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: Let's see what's going on with the Raiders and Broncos.

722
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: Broncos by three and a half.

723
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: I like it an old rivalry.

724
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 3: Surprise picks. I might call it a reach.

725
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: It is, it is a reach, But I was I'm

726
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: thinking about Shook a little bit in the game that

727
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 2: he's watching the Raiders, a team that, in the eyes

728
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: of some Mark Edward Sessler, for one, why even exist.

729
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: You're not You're not a team to be taken seriously.

730
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 5: I'm hearing from Raiders fans daily about that that I've

731
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 5: been far too dark on the whole situation.

732
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 2: You're an also ran, you don't really have it together.

733
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:53,959
Speaker 2: You have maybe potential issues behind the scenes. Again, Josh McDaniels.

734
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: It happened the their opponent this week, the Broncos. It

735
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 2: happened with McDaniels. There is it happening again.

736
00:33:59,480 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 1: We don't know.

737
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: Maybe Chandla Jones' instagram was weird. But here is the

738
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: positive news if you're a Raiders fan. There are still

739
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 2: weapons on this offense and big time players. It's a

740
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: top heavy roster, but it's a type of roster if

741
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: you get big games from Max Crosby, from Josh Jacobs,

742
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 2: from DeVante Adams, and a very capable and for the

743
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 2: time being healthy Jimmy Garoppolo, you should be able to

744
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 2: hang with a team like the Broncos, who I know

745
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: there's a lot of optimism about them. I think they

746
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 2: are another great curiosity. I don't think it's that much

747
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: of a reach because I think there's a lot of

748
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: questions around Denver and like, what is Sean Payton's Denver

749
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: Broncos look like after a pretty rough summer, let's be honest,

750
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: with a lot of injuries for this team and a

751
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 2: lot of talk around Russell Wilson and what he could

752
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: bring to them. So I really like this as an

753
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 2: old school AFC West matchup between a Raiders team that's

754
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: being overlooked as it also ran in a Broncos team

755
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 2: that's looking trying to get back to respect and they

756
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: think they could for a playoff spot.

757
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: So interesting.

758
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 5: Look, there's a couple things going on with the Broncos

759
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 5: that I think are absolute positives. One is Sean Payton

760
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 5: is taking over what was the worst coach team in

761
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 5: the league a year ago, and Sean Payton to me

762
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 5: as a top three coach who is going to organize

763
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 5: this entire operation in a different way.

764
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 3: They're going to look different.

765
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 5: I think the physical stature of Russell Wilson after what

766
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 5: we've seen, sleeker better shape than a year ago. That

767
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 5: was a big problem last season. And Javonte Williams. It's like,

768
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 5: this is someone that I didn't even know you could

769
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 5: count on at this point. But Peyton's basically saying he's

770
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 5: going to have a big role right out of the gate.

771
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 5: I think if you are, if you're Sean Payton, you

772
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 5: don't need to make Russell Wilson do everything early on.

773
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 3: There could be a lot of run.

774
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 5: I think there could be a lot of power running,

775
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 5: a lot of trying to control the game from that

776
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 5: aspect versus putting Russell Wilson into a tough spot. But

777
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 5: that's one of the biggest stories obviously of the entire

778
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 5: offseason going into this week. It's a great pick because

779
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 5: it's eyes first on where we are with Russell Wilson

780
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 5: and Sean Pate.

781
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 3: Well, if Russell Wilson.

782
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 4: Had heard these quotes from Sean Payton that they had

783
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 4: an ESPN dot Com was an insider peace by Seth

784
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 4: Lugersham in the middle of June, It's all we would

785
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 4: have talked about for two months. You drop it right

786
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 4: before the season. It kind of gets lost in the

787
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 4: in the shuffle, but.

788
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: In the half of it, and they got busy in

789
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: the piece.

790
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 4: Peyton told Wilson he needs to focus less on quote

791
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 4: Russell inc will you bleeping stop kissing all the babies?

792
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 4: Peyton said, you're not running for public office. Love it

793
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 4: as I mean, it's good advice. It's harsh and I

794
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 4: think of your Russell Wilson, you have to worry a

795
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 4: little bit about Sean Payton's motives, motivation and where his

796
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 4: heart is that this is getting out there in the public.

797
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 4: If it had stayed private, it's good advice. But it

798
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 4: didn't stay private. It got into this article.

799
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 2: Sean Payton was just shooting from the hip the entire offseason,

800
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: apparently in any interview.

801
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 5: Don't you think Sean Payton was told before he took

802
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 5: this job, like you are not attached to the hip,

803
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 5: to Russell Wilson, You've got Jared Stidham if you if

804
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 5: you want to chose.

805
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 4: He chose to sign Stidham on the first day of

806
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 4: free agency for a very aggressive backup quarterback.

807
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 5: I just don't think that there was any There was

808
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 5: no notion that Sean Payton couldn't break free from this

809
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 5: Russell Wilson situation.

810
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 3: If it is as ugly as it was.

811
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: A year, here's the here's the hierarchy in Denver.

812
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 3: He also flamed the GM verbally, so you know, well, yeah.

813
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 2: Here's the hierarchy. Last year it was Russell Wilson, that's it, yep.

814
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 2: And now this year it's Sean Payton, and then about

815
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 2: eight eight spots Kevin Saunders the GM, and then five

816
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: more spots down and then maybe Russell Wilson sneaks in

817
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 2: like he is no longer viewed as the center piece

818
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 2: or or the tea the guy that is the future, undoubtedly,

819
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: and I think there's gonna be a lot of pressure

820
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 2: on Wilson immediately out of the gate this season to

821
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 2: do something unimit.

822
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 4: I'd love to talk just like X's and I was

823
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 4: having Patrick Graham versus Peyton is fine. DeVante Adams versus

824
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 4: Patrick Stertan is as good as it gets looking. I'm

825
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 4: curious about the Raiders rookies. Michael Meyer, Tyree Wilson's looking better.

826
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 4: But this Chandler joneson we should hit on because it

827
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 4: seems quite serious, like I don't know what's going on

828
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 4: but he's posting pretty strange Instagram stories. Some of them

829
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 4: was going after his coach and GM, but he also

830
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 4: sent out and it's public, so we can talk about

831
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 4: a fire and rescue team like Workbash, who's the clinic

832
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 4: program manager for the crisis response team in Las Vegas.

833
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 4: There were some other very erratic stuff that he said

834
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 4: TMZ was coming after him that mentioned a woman involved

835
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 4: and Chloe. And then it's hard not to think about

836
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 4: Chandler Jones's exit from the Patriots and what that was

837
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 4: involved in, and just the way the players are talking

838
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 4: about it, and actually there's some They've tried to keep

839
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 4: it all in house, but something's not right with Chandler Jones.

840
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 4: And I think it's more than just he was upset

841
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 4: with the team about not going into the building and

842
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 4: he he on paper, is a really big part of

843
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 4: that team, and I think it's absolutely fair to wonder, like,

844
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 4: what is his future with this team? What is his

845
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 4: future playing football at least in the medium to long term.

846
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 2: And Chandler Jones, he gets after the quarterback for a living.

847
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson sect fifty five times last year, tied for

848
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 2: the most in the NFL.

849
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: Career high, so they redid their offensive line.

850
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 2: We're gonna want to see how that looks like because Wilson, yeah,

851
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 2: the old sack of potatoes thing and he's morse felt

852
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 2: and he's moving better, but the line needs to be better.

853
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: So on he needs to be quicker with this decision making.

854
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: I think Sean Payton, probably, when you think about it,

855
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 2: is the perfect coach to come in and tell him

856
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 2: things like stop kissing babies, like you're not as good

857
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 2: as you thought you were. It's time now to start over.

858
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: And does that get through to Russell Wilson. Well, I

859
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 2: don't know, that's the question.

860
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, mister unlimited.

861
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if if he has that capacity to

862
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 2: be humbled in that way and start over, or if

863
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: he's thinking to himself, this guy doesn't really understand me.

864
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 5: Maybe, but he also hasn't He hasn't you know, lashed

865
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 5: out in reverse. I think he's handled it at least

866
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 5: front facing pretty well.

867
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 1: Doesn't do that though, you know what I mean. He's

868
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: like such a positive guy. It'll be interesting.

869
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 2: He's been challenged, no doubt, on a number of levels,

870
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 2: both in the media, from the public and even with

871
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: a new quarterback in the building there who could be

872
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 2: ready to take over because Peyton brought him in.

873
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: Mister unlimited, all right, it is time for Greg to

874
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: make his second pick.

875
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 3: I take it back. It wasn't a reach. I really

876
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 3: want to see that game.

877
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: And we'll see the first round pick.

878
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 4: We'll see if you're interested in the Tennessee Titans at

879
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 4: the New Orleans Saints. Have fun little uh truck conference

880
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 4: to figure this out.

881
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 3: I don't know.

882
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 4: Interconference SATs Saints favored by three in this game, which

883
00:40:55,239 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 4: is the official desert position of I don't know, which

884
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 4: actually is a little less respect than I would have

885
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 4: expected from the for the Saints and a little more

886
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 4: respect for the Titans than I would have expected, because

887
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 4: it's definitely a I don't know type of line and

888
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 4: it's gonna be the first game I watch all year,

889
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 4: which is just feels weird that this is it ten

890
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 4: am start. I don't know if all the Saints hype

891
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 4: is real. The Saints fan base is usually pretty skeptical.

892
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 4: I've actually found that they they are, they're doubters, and

893
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 4: yet they're buying in. And I guess I'm buying in

894
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 4: because I found myself in my first fantasy draft, and

895
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 4: I believe a decade on Wednesday night and I walked

896
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 4: out of it with Kamara, who I just love the villa.

897
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 3: Ah.

898
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 4: But I also wound up with Juwan Johnson and Michael

899
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 4: Thomas very late too, and suddenly I am knee deep

900
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 4: in Saints offense. Derek Carr, I mean they know none

901
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 4: of them. I mean these were good value. They were

902
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 4: very late in the draft.

903
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: Like grounds do you, Jamal Williams.

904
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 3: I didn't do that.

905
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: You know, a little rusty, it sounds.

906
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 3: I mean, we'll see. I like the ship lost at suit.

907
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 4: I like the look of my team. This matchup could

908
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,959
Speaker 4: course correct all that optimism to me, because I think

909
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 4: everyone's been sleeping on this Titans front. That they're healthy,

910
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 4: that they're back, that they have continuity with Denny Goatri

911
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 4: and Jeffrey Simmons, all the guys that you know, and

912
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 4: some of the guys coming back at the linebacker position

913
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 4: and really deep in terms of their safety group. Like

914
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 4: I like this Titans defense. I think it could be

915
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 4: a top seven or eight type of unit. And I

916
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 4: think it's it's an immediate test for this Saints offensive line,

917
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 4: which Trevor Penny at left tackle. Will see if he

918
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 4: makes a big second year step. He barely got on

919
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 4: the field a year ago. He's looked a little iffian preseason.

920
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 3: We'll see.

921
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 5: I mean the Titans to me, I don't know, I

922
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 5: don't I hear this all the time now that everyone's

923
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 5: sleeping on the on the Tennessee Titans, they're just really well.

924
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 4: You hear that from our old producer, Justin Graver's Twitter

925
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 4: account blowing up our mentions.

926
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 5: Well, that's one, that's one source, but he's not alone.

927
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 5: It's just I don't see it on the offensive side

928
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 5: of the ball. You're right that they were the best

929
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 5: run defense in the league last year and one of

930
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 5: the worst pass defenses. So I didn't think it's an

931
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 5: opportunity for Chris Olave, for Derek Carr, for the rest

932
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 5: of that crew to to go down, up and down

933
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 5: the field on they want. You know, I know that

934
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 5: they're so well coached, but they lost seven games in

935
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 5: a row to end last season.

936
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 4: Don't you think it was Yeah, it was mostly the offense.

937
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 3: You're right, and it was nuts.

938
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 5: What about the offense at this stage gives you a

939
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 5: lot of optimism that they can hang in.

940
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 4: Just just that they shuffle. It's not optimism, but it's hope,

941
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 4: and it's hope season. Just that they shuffle the deck

942
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 4: on the offensive. Yeah, I don't like that offensive line.

943
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 3: Taylor Scornsky like those guys.

944
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 4: They they put a lot into Daniel Bunskill's played a

945
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 4: lot for the forty nine ers. You have Hopkins. Can

946
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 4: Hopkins be a one still? I think people are throwing

947
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 4: him into this Julio Jones right in Tennessee bucket.

948
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 3: He's not there. He's gonna be better, right, that's fair.

949
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 1: For the record.

950
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 2: After he came back from his suspension, you know, there

951
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 2: are a lot of there was a lot of talking,

952
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: some popping of the hood on the advanced stats that

953
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 2: he didn't have the same separation ability, and that's to

954
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 2: be understood at this age.

955
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: But he also was probably on pace for one hundred

956
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: and ten catches and was well over a thousand yards

957
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: receiving this. Julio Jones was a guy who in the

958
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: last few years couldn't stay on the field and was

959
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: not a difference maker at all. So Hopkins, if he

960
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: could stay healthy, I think absolutely could can play the guitar.

961
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, guess I have more questions about

962
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill, who is another year older.

963
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: He's been beat up now. Last year he struggled, obviously

964
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: to stay on the field. His numbers were depressed as

965
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 2: a result, as was the offense, and his last two

966
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: seasons he's been kind of in decline statistically. Can he

967
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 2: have a bounce back? Absolutely, but I kind of got

968
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 2: to see it. I love the Saints in this gamme Gregy.

969
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 2: I would think I locked up the Chiefs yesterday, but

970
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 2: the Saints are at the Superdome. I think Derek car

971
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: and this offense is gonna be better than people think. I

972
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: think they're gonna be a top ten offense, and I

973
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 2: think they take care of business here.

974
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 4: I would tend to agree I'm taking I would take

975
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 4: the Titans in this game, but uh, maybe I was

976
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 4: swayed by this. Michael Thomas tweet on September sixth, quote revenge,

977
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 4: how I show my anger? My facial expression ain't changing.

978
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

979
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 4: There's something about the whole Michael fifteen games, the whole

980
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 4: Michael Thomas experiments. It's it's definitely that cliched wide receiver tweet.

981
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 4: The enemy speaks kindly and holds a knife like Michael

982
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 4: Thomas is the king of that and if they could

983
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 4: just get eighty percent of Michael Thomas, that guy is

984
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 4: the heartbeat of that team.

985
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 3: He's a leader, the one.

986
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: Because it's been too much now the last year the team.

987
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 4: I think so. I think he is a rare personality

988
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 4: and leader in terms of the work that he puts

989
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 4: in and the way he plays football that like guys

990
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 4: look to him as just like an incredible athlete in person.

991
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 4: And I think it's really hurt him obviously without him

992
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 4: last year or back to me, I thought of taking

993
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 4: this the pick before. What would it have mattered Texans Ravens.

994
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 4: You might say, oh, Greg, that's a ten point spread.

995
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 4: Why would you take a game like that right now?

996
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 4: And I would say this Ravens team is as fascinating

997
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 4: and unknown as maybe any team with the same head

998
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 4: coach and quarterback in the entire NFL. I can't wait

999
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 4: to see Lamar Jackson. We haven't seen him at all.

1000
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 4: They didn't play a lick of the preseason. Neither to

1001
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 4: Dodo Beckham Sayflowers did a little bit. Neither did Rashad Bateman.

1002
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 4: I love it and it's going up against a defense

1003
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 4: that I think is pretty well suited to slow them down.

1004
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 4: I think the Texans have a really improved defense, and

1005
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 4: I've no I'm not.

1006
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 3: Gonna lock it out he's talking about, but.

1007
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 4: I think they could slow him down. We've talked through

1008
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 4: that their secondary is better. Derek Stingley wants to step

1009
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 4: up in year two. Jalen Petree is a possible safety,

1010
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 4: all pro type of safety. I really like the Jimmy Wards.

1011
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 4: Stephen Nelson is a really good veteran cornerback. Is a

1012
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 4: nice little matchup when the Ravens have the ball, Will

1013
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 4: Anderson's rushing at Lamar Jackson. I haven't even gotten a stroud,

1014
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 4: but to me, this is a very fresh, a new game,

1015
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 4: and I think it'll be a if I had to pick,

1016
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 4: and I do on Friday on game debut, I'm taking

1017
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 4: the Texans to cover that the ten points at least.

1018
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 5: That is the biggest spread here in Week one. I

1019
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 5: think that you've got an opportunity if you're the Texans.

1020
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 5: I think Tamiko Ryans is going to I really liked

1021
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 5: everything I'm hearing from his players in general.

1022
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 3: I think he's a change agent.

1023
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 5: I think he's going to come in and have their

1024
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 5: defense playing as well as possible. And if you're the Ravens,

1025
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 5: Mark Andrews is banged up right now, Ronnie Stanley is

1026
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 5: dealing with an ankle. He's practicing, like that's not great,

1027
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 5: and I just think that is it going to take

1028
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 5: some time. Everyone's like, oh, this will be Lamar Jackson's

1029
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 5: biggest opportunity to make a big jump in different way

1030
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 5: through the air and stuff. It's like, you, by the way,

1031
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 5: like the whole Greg Roman thing, I get it that

1032
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 5: it got stale. You built an entire offense around what

1033
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson does well, so this is going to take

1034
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 5: some time to go and.

1035
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 3: Change what you do.

1036
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 5: And it's these things you know, you even look at

1037
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 5: like Matt Ryan and Kyle Shanahan in Atlanta that first season,

1038
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 5: second season MVP season, but first time around, it took

1039
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 5: Matt Ryan time to kind of figure out how that

1040
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 5: system worked. And do we just assume that we get

1041
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 5: Baltimore's offense from the jump that could.

1042
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: Take a.

1043
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 2: Todd Monkin isn't exactly Bill Walsh. So no, the idea

1044
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 2: we needed to get Greg Roman out, okay, all right?

1045
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 2: And you know they were right. It was time for

1046
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 2: a fresh mind, but I don't automatically assume. Now Todd

1047
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 2: Montkin rolls in and does whatever Lamar Jackson wants, and

1048
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: the offense is going to get flying. I love their

1049
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 2: running game, of course, with Lamar leading the way and

1050
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 2: Dobbin's little Gus Edwards all good.

1051
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: I love Mark.

1052
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 2: Andrews, especially if he's healthy, one of the top tight

1053
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: ends of the league. I'm still that solid on the

1054
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 2: wide receivers, and I know that's supposed to be fixed now.

1055
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 2: Rashad Bateman got to see it, Okay, let's see it.

1056
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: First round pick that hasn't truly broken out yet, is

1057
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 2: that with some health issues. Odell Beckham. We don't need

1058
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 2: to talk about this anymore, but really hasn't been a

1059
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: big time player for six years about now. And I

1060
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 2: know he was electric in moments during the playoff run

1061
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 2: with the Rams, but then he blew his a cl

1062
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 2: and then he got a couple of years older. Let's

1063
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,919
Speaker 2: see where he is. Jay Flowers another first round pick.

1064
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 2: They don't always hit the ground running. We could be

1065
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 2: excited about Zay Flowers. It's totally fine, but nothing is

1066
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 2: certain with this offense right now. And I think some

1067
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 2: of this around Lamar and then that what was his MVP?

1068
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 2: Did you who's Oh? Was that that was ke Kes.

1069
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: A lot of this is about them kind of hitting

1070
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 2: the ground running with this new look, a new offense,

1071
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 2: new personnel.

1072
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:44,479
Speaker 3: Hitting out at Keish.

1073
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: So you know that's it's it's even worse. It's mom,

1074
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 2: which I love Keeth Mom.

1075
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 4: I love watching Lakeisha's mom watched Lamar Jackson. That's it's

1076
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 4: a ball my favorite sporting activities.

1077
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 3: It's an as well futtle game.

1078
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: All right, good, good, good show.

1079
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 4: Show us something to here at CJ Strave too. I

1080
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 4: mean this Ravens give him time too. Okay, I know,

1081
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 4: I'm just saying. I'm just saying this Ravens defense might

1082
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 4: be a little undercook, so you may show.

1083
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 5: A little so their offensive line, the Texans is is

1084
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 5: suddenly in a weird place. Titus Howard put on injured reserve.

1085
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 5: I mean it's they looked good in the summer.

1086
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 3: And they've watched about three or four guys. You're right,

1087
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 3: all right, let's.

1088
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 2: Take a break and we'll be back with more preview.

1089
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 2: All right, we're back. Let's keep it alling. I am

1090
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 2: up in the draft. I will take mm hmm. All

1091
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 2: right another late game. I'm taking Dolphins Chargers.

1092
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: How about that?

1093
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 3: I like it. I feel like there's a steal at

1094
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 3: this points, an absolute steal.

1095
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot to be interested in here.

1096
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 3: I want to walk across the street and watch it.

1097
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: I thought about that. I got there's an inter office

1098
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: raffle an email.

1099
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 3: For tickets, and I was like, I mean you could apply.

1100
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 5: What about your accidental you have an actual work day

1101
00:50:58,680 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 5: to attend to.

1102
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 4: I know you could if you're on a Sunday where

1103
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 4: you if you only had one game in the afternoon,

1104
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 4: I mean, that could be your game and you would

1105
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 4: have some great insights.

1106
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: Tough beat.

1107
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 2: By the way, for the dads of a Point of Eld, Yeah,

1108
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 2: they scheduled the Elsa Gundo Little League they won the

1109
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 2: Little League World Championship. Congratulations again, I'm a.

1110
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,919
Speaker 1: Member of the community. Uh in the littleague group.

1111
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: The parade is Sunday Week one.

1112
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: You just killing the dads.

1113
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 3: I thought that they had a like when they returned.

1114
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 2: That was a homecoming like waving thing. Sure, this is

1115
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 2: the formal parade and ceremony Week one, Sunday, come.

1116
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: Back to us. That's got to be at the very

1117
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: least Saturday.

1118
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 3: Terrible job.

1119
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 2: But even then, like you know, La, everyone is college

1120
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 2: football crazy, so that's you got.

1121
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 3: You gotta pick one of them. It's a terrible job. Yeah,

1122
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 3: it's a bad job.

1123
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 4: It's a US Open Men's tennis Open final being played

1124
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 4: opposite these games. Level of ignorance and hubris and not

1125
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 4: understanding the moment.

1126
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 3: Let's wake up people, sheep.

1127
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just like, I want to watch a

1128
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 4: little Alkarez Djokovic and there's no chance.

1129
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 2: That is the real tragedy. Yea, all right, here we go. Yes,

1130
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 2: I said it. I already said it. The Chargers and

1131
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 2: the Dolphins, you know who else. By the way, the

1132
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:23,439
Speaker 2: Chargers lay in three points here, So the Desert likes

1133
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 2: the Bolts, just like Greg E likes the Bolts. I

1134
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 2: thought it was interesting if I'm a Dolphins fan. I'm

1135
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 2: kind of into the fact that when the off season began,

1136
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 2: everyone was like, yeah, well the Bills will be good,

1137
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 2: and you know, the Jets and the Dolphins both are

1138
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 2: looking good. And then as the summer war on, and

1139
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 2: I am not oblivious to this, everyone got on the

1140
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 2: Jets bandwagon and the Dolphins kind of got left behind

1141
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 2: and and that's a little that'd be a chip on

1142
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 2: my shoulder and I'd be using that if I'm Mike McDaniel,

1143
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 2: the old nobody believes in his card, because I think

1144
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 2: there's to believe that the Dolphins can absolutely get their

1145
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 2: season going here with a w at Los Angeles because

1146
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 2: the offense when Tua was healthy and we talked about it,

1147
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: they went through some struggles later in the season before

1148
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 2: he got hurt a final time and missed the rest

1149
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 2: of the year. But I kind of like Mike McDaniel

1150
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 2: getting a whole summer and then a game plan for

1151
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 2: Week one that's gonna come out and maybe have Brandon

1152
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 2: Staley's head spinning, and all of a sudden, it's one

1153
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 2: of those updates where you're watching the late games and oh,

1154
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 2: let's head back to Sofi Stadium. The Dolphins have scored

1155
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 2: on their first three possessions. It's twenty one to three

1156
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: early in the second quarter. Wouldn't shock me. The Dolphins

1157
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 2: come out hot as a pistol and then your boy

1158
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: Herbo I believe you called him on a previous show,

1159
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 2: has to go into comeback mode and maybe, just maybe

1160
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: we get the best shootout of the week, right here

1161
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 2: across the sidewalk.

1162
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,479
Speaker 5: I you know what, the Dolphins came out hot under

1163
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 5: Mike McDaniel a year ago. It didn't take them, It

1164
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 5: didn't take that offense forever to get going. And I

1165
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 5: think you've got to see where we are with Toronto Armstead.

1166
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 5: That matters so much along their offensive line. But that

1167
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 5: to go back to that play Callers series that Jordan

1168
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 5: Rodrigue did. The one thing I know MC Mike McDaniel

1169
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 5: last year was a fascinating at the podium. But I

1170
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 5: also think what that series taught me was like, you

1171
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 5: go back to his roots in San Francisco under Shanahan

1172
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 5: and even before that, that he is one of the

1173
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 5: most like intellectually creative, aggressively creative guys that I think

1174
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 5: what we saw last year was just part one.

1175
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 3: What is part two of this offense?

1176
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 5: And like, if Tua can stay healthy, we already have

1177
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 5: the evidence that they can be one of the best

1178
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 5: attacks league wide.

1179
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 4: I'm with you, And yet Brandon Staley handed him his lunch.

1180
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 4: I would say it's Brandon Staley's best moment as a coach.

1181
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 4: They got worked, they stymied them the Monday night game,

1182
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 4: the Monday night game Dolphins Chargers Emmanuelacho and someone else was.

1183
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 3: Herbert. I'm glad we're not really getting that.

1184
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 4: This week because sorry, because look, it's not a referendum

1185
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 4: on Tua. But the defense of the Chargers had a

1186
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 4: great game plan and did a great job really slowing

1187
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 4: down this Dolphins attack. So it's a revenge game really

1188
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 4: for McDaniel and Tua because that was a healthy Tua.

1189
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 4: He had been back at that point, and they did

1190
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 4: a great job. And I'm buying the Chargers not just

1191
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 4: because I believe in the offense. It's mostly by the offense.

1192
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 4: They're deep in the offensive line. Oh that's good stuff, Herbo.

1193
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 4: But I think the Chargers defense can be solid to

1194
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 4: good and they haven't been. And you got Derwin James

1195
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 4: healthy finally coming into the season.

1196
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 3: You got Bosa.

1197
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 4: Joey Bosa missed most of last season, and I was

1198
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 4: just who is like, oh, yeah, they didn't have Joey Bosa.

1199
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 4: It's like he's one of the best players in the world.

1200
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 4: I like this Chargers defense and it's just a it's

1201
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 4: a dork dream fon Gio versus Kellen Moore. Those are

1202
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 4: two of the Dorks absolute favorites and then Mike McDaniel versus.

1203
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 2: King of the Dorks in the NFL, I would say, McDaniel,

1204
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think this is a shootout.

1205
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: I think it's fun. I think.

1206
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 2: I think the Chargers get back into the game after

1207
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 2: big Dolphins lead, but I think the Dolphins find a

1208
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 2: way and win this game.

1209
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: Thirty seven, thirty four. What do you guys think?

1210
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm going Chargers.

1211
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 4: This is where it's like, you gotta stick with your

1212
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 4: preseason stuff before this.

1213
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 3: I got Miami thirty one, Chargers twenty eight. I'm with you.

1214
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 5: I think this is going to be one of the

1215
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 5: great games of the early part of the season.

1216
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 2: And by the way, one of my favorite parts, one

1217
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 2: of our favorite parts of the Thursday show is we

1218
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 2: do our locks, but there's someone else that offers up

1219
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 2: a lock of the week. So let's head to the

1220
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 2: Midwest where a certain Westling brother wants to share his thoughts.

1221
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: On this matchup.

1222
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 8: Hello heroes, I'm back baby. It's week one and then

1223
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 8: it's time for another edition of the Westling Family Zoo.

1224
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 8: No surprise here, there was some infighting amongst the Westling brothers.

1225
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,280
Speaker 8: My brother Mike and I couldn't come to an agreement.

1226
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 8: We went back and forth. I wanted to take the

1227
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 8: Rosenthal approach, take the six point favorite with the Seattle Seahawks.

1228
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 3: He said, no, no, no, no.

1229
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 8: We're Westlings. We don't take the easy way out. We're

1230
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 8: going with the Los Angeles Chargers. I wasn't one on

1231
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 8: board at first, but he's been doing some real tape dogging.

1232
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 3: He gave.

1233
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 8: But he says the offense is going to be explosive,

1234
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 8: maybe record breaking this year. We will be locking up

1235
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 8: the Los Angeles Chargers this week. Looking forward to another

1236
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 8: great year. Rosenthal, you're going down this year.

1237
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 3: Good day, there you go.

1238
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 5: I send you right out of the gate. That isn't

1239
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 5: that is a daring lock. I will give the whole

1240
00:57:59,320 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 5: crew that.

1241
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 2: The thing I love about Nick is if if Los

1242
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 2: Angeles fails, he will be the first everybody.

1243
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: Under that off the bus.

1244
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 2: Zoo is one of those zoos where nobody locks up

1245
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 2: any of the any of the cages, and the gorillas

1246
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 2: and the orangutangs and the and the wolves and the tigers,

1247
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 2: they all come out.

1248
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: Now.

1249
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to, uh, you know, hearing from Nick

1250
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 4: all season and for them being non competitive, for like

1251
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 4: the Fourth Street not even the.

1252
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 1: Fact he comes back with a sling. Did take a

1253
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: couple of shots.

1254
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 3: One of these years be in the mix. Come on,

1255
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 3: that's where they finished last year. I don't know, but

1256
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 3: they've never been in the mix somewhere.

1257
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: They didn't win. Put it that way, and they have

1258
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: not won yet. All right, Mark, you are up.

1259
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna go h Jacksonville at Indianapolis. I

1260
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 3: don't know.

1261
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 5: I kind of have surprised Greg that you didn't jump

1262
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 5: on this Jacksonville minus five. Not saying the game is

1263
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 5: going to be the competition of the season, but it's

1264
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 5: our first look at Anthony Richardson.

1265
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: Jaguars contracted from the league, so that's why he's there.

1266
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: There is that.

1267
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 5: There is that sometimes you have games. I just thought

1268
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 5: you would jump on Anthony Richardson.

1269
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 4: It's my first pick or I want it to be

1270
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 4: a game pass?

1271
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 3: Is it now? It's the end?

1272
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 4: I wanted that to be my NFL plus first thing

1273
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 4: I turn on.

1274
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 5: That works a little a rich Can the Jaguars pick

1275
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 5: up where they left off last year? On offense? Trevor Lawrence?

1276
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 5: Is there another level for him? What do we see

1277
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 5: from Anthony Richardson out of the gate. I think this

1278
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 5: is a kind of a weird Colts team, especially if

1279
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 5: you start to look at like their cornerbacks and like

1280
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 5: there's defense in general.

1281
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 3: I just I feel like the Colts a couple of years.

1282
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 5: Ago or even last season were being billed as this

1283
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 5: like playoff hopeful. They're a very strange outfit. I think

1284
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 5: you've got to give Shane Stike in time. Anthony Richardson's

1285
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 5: accuracy in general is going to take time. There's gonna

1286
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 5: be a lot of coaching up on that. But his

1287
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 5: athletics is am alone, is like one of the most

1288
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 5: exciting things that anyone in this rookie class or any

1289
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 5: past one is offered. And it's like, what do we

1290
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 5: get right out of the gate. It makes me think

1291
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 5: back when like we didn't know what you get from

1292
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 5: RG three in that first Week one opener and he

1293
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 5: was completely unleashed, like what is the answer?

1294
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 3: We'll find out.

1295
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 2: And Jaguars are minus five in this game, so and

1296
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 2: that feels right.

1297
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: They are. They're a favorite here, GREGI.

1298
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 2: This is if you're not totally in on the Jags

1299
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 2: and you see that division as a little more wide open,

1300
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 2: there's gonna be some red Flags here if you can't

1301
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 2: take care of the Colts, because I think the Colts

1302
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 2: are just very much You're asking Richardson, a guy with

1303
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,959
Speaker 2: very little experience, to hit the ground running in week

1304
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 2: one and be a monster.

1305
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: Now, maybe he'll fill up fantasy box.

1306
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 2: Scores with his rushing game, but he's such a work

1307
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 2: in progress passing that I could see that taking some

1308
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 2: time even beyond just this year to come together. And

1309
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 2: then there's no Jonathan Taylor, so it's like, what do

1310
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 2: the Colts have really to combat the Gays.

1311
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's like a good or a

1312
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 4: bad time to catch the Colts. Is it good because

1313
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 4: of everything you just said. It's a new coach too.

1314
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 4: You mentioned the secondary. They are starting gentlemen by the

1315
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 4: name of Dallas Flowers and Darryl Baker at cornerback. Dallas

1316
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 4: they were both and I was like, did they draft

1317
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 4: him because they took a lot of draftic But no,

1318
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 4: they were undrafted players from last year who are now

1319
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 4: starting for them. But it's kind of the element of

1320
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 4: surprise with Richardson, so maybe it's a bad to And

1321
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 4: then you said like it would be very concerning. I'm

1322
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 4: with you, but it's Week one and just it's a

1323
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 4: division game. Weird things happened. I thought, didn't the Colts

1324
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 4: play them pretty well last year? And I remember the

1325
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 4: Colts beat him last year. They beat him in one

1326
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 4: of those games in Indianapolis. They won that game thirty

1327
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 4: four to twenty seven, A nice little moment for Matt Ryan.

1328
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 4: They also got shut out in the in the other matchup.

1329
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 4: But it's like that, weird things happen in division games.

1330
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 4: And I don't know, I feel like I'm not going

1331
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 4: to take anything away from this game other than however

1332
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 4: Richardson plays.

1333
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,959
Speaker 2: And you know we talked about Trevor Lawrence is really

1334
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 2: a long shot from MVP, despite really substantial growth as

1335
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 2: a franchise quarterback. They're saying, like Desert people like, if

1336
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 2: he throws four touchdowns in this game and for three

1337
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 2: hundred eighty yards, you might.

1338
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: Be kicking yourself.

1339
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've asked the season could really get off

1340
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 2: to a flying So there's a nice setup.

1341
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 3: Again, I really think this year they could have.

1342
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 5: Also, we haven't seen Calvin Ridley in this offense yet,

1343
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 5: and I think that is one of the the Jaguars

1344
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 5: sort of mysteriously did nothing this offseason to patch up

1345
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 5: a defense that was a problem all last year and

1346
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 5: maybe just as.

1347
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: Bad as so much money the year before it did,

1348
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: but that it.

1349
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 5: Didn't translate to defense, but their offense they've added more weapons,

1350
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 5: and I just I don't know. I think Trevor Lawrence

1351
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 5: is like I don't get the whole MVP being overlooked

1352
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 5: for MVP, Like he's got a good chance, all right,

1353
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 5: Cincinnati minus two and a half at Cleveland. I think

1354
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 5: Cleveland is another one of these, like they're the opposite

1355
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 5: of the Jaguars on defense.

1356
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 3: They did so much to shore up their defense.

1357
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 5: I think it starts with the fact that Jim Schwartz

1358
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 5: runs a new it's a whole new thing where it's

1359
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 5: like last year there was too much thought and the

1360
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 5: defensive guys were just not able to unleash the way

1361
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 5: they wanted. Now you've got Shelby Harris to Zaria Smith.

1362
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 5: I am because I don't I know this.

1363
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 3: Is a bit like I don't know what the bit is.

1364
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 5: I think the bit is is Mark and to slide

1365
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 5: back into being a Browns fan.

1366
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 3: I don't I don't feel it. I hear, okay, I

1367
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 3: don't feel it.

1368
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 2: Come home mark, I don't feel it and.

1369
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 3: Barrow through it.

1370
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 5: The offense, though, I think, is one of the biggest

1371
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 5: question marks around, and it's like, we don't know what

1372
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 5: you're gonna get from the quarterback position. Are they going

1373
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 5: to be as run heavy as they were in the past.

1374
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 5: You still have a great offensive line. Joe Burrow has

1375
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 5: really struggled against the Browns. It's one of these weird

1376
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 5: outliers where he's like excellent against the Chiefs, but his

1377
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 5: performances against Cleveland have been a mess. That Monday Night

1378
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 5: game a year ago was like what happened to the

1379
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 5: what happened to the Bengals in that game? And it

1380
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 5: happened the year before, and so it's like does that continue?

1381
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 5: And we haven't seen Burrow obvious, it's like he's healthy,

1382
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 5: he's practicing, but it's like there are some X factors wrong.

1383
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, one the Burrough health question I think is

1384
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 2: very real entering this game. And I'm on record, I

1385
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 2: think Cleveland's gonna be a good team this year. I

1386
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 2: think they're gonna win ten games and I think they're

1387
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 2: gonna be in the playoffs. So like again as a

1388
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,479
Speaker 2: catapult for a season, you know, the Dog Pound's gonna

1389
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 2: be going off and the team is obviously just complicated

1390
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 2: in terms of the Deshaun Watson side of things. But

1391
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 2: they are one of the great mysteries of Week one

1392
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 2: for me because it would not surprise me if they

1393
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 2: look very good.

1394
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: Now, great, I'll.

1395
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 2: Point it out they didn't have rave reviews throughout the

1396
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 2: summer and how the offen look, so that might come

1397
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 2: to fruition and be like, well, yes, they stuck out

1398
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 2: the joint and the Bengles lit him up and what

1399
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 2: is up with his offense? But it's one of those

1400
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 2: things that I kind of enjoy about Week one. It's

1401
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,439
Speaker 2: a litmus test now for what did all that mean

1402
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 2: versus now the lights are on and you have a

1403
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 2: very good play caller.

1404
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: With the opportunity who kind of looks like George Looney.

1405
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 1: We forget about that I.

1406
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 2: Had the opportunity, well now to get into his bag

1407
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 2: in a game that counts.

1408
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 5: Like this was an awkward moment, but like when he

1409
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 5: was introduced as the Browns coach and spoke with Andrews Siciliano,

1410
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 5: I tweeted out that the fact that Stefanski looks like

1411
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 5: Clooney and they asked Stefanski that I think he was

1412
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 5: just like, why on Earth am I being asked this

1413
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 5: on NFL networks?

1414
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean when Burrow came back last year

1415
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 4: after missing so much time with the appendectomy, Yeah, the

1416
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 4: worst game of his career. Basically week went made a

1417
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 4: lot of throws, but also through those interceptions. Bengals fans

1418
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 4: will point out like he had lost a lot of weight.

1419
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 4: It was a whole thing last year post that surgery

1420
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 4: that he didn't have to go through this time. It

1421
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 4: sounds like he's healthy. I'm not too worried about that.

1422
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 4: I am a little more worried from a Bengals side,

1423
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 4: and I am rooting for the Bengals, not just because

1424
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 4: of the Cincinnati zoo. I don't even know how they

1425
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 4: feel about the Bengals right now.

1426
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: Lights you up every chance they get, right.

1427
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:55,439
Speaker 3: That's a good point.

1428
01:05:56,160 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 4: This This Bengals defense and in division matchups are are

1429
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 4: about like who the defensive line, offensive lines, how they

1430
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 4: match up against each other. Gave up four hundred and

1431
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 4: forty yards in that first game against the Browns, and

1432
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 4: that's the offensive line. As much as I like Jacoby Brissett,

1433
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 4: it really wasn't because of Jacoby Brissett that they put

1434
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 4: up what was it a thirty ber you know, it

1435
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 4: was like thirty two to thirteen in that game, and

1436
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 4: they ran all over him. And that's the cornerstone of

1437
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 4: these Browns. If these Browns are gonna make Dan look

1438
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 4: smart and make the playoffs, it's because that O line

1439
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 4: is gonna mash and it's the same guys. It's the

1440
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 4: same offensive line, it's the same Bengals defensive line and linebackers.

1441
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 4: For the most part. We got a couple of new safeties.

1442
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 4: You want to test those guys, Nick Scott in the

1443
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 4: first round pick from a year ago, But for the

1444
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 4: most part, it's the same guys matching up and if

1445
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 4: they can run on them, they gotta to.

1446
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 1: The quarterback. Can't be a bottom ten guy like he

1447
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: was down the stretch.

1448
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 3: No, sure, it's got to be a top ten guy.

1449
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 3: That's what they paid for, and you can't.

1450
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 1: And they're not gonna hide Watson in this offense. I

1451
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 1: don't think if they do.

1452
01:06:56,440 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 2: If you're seeing very heavy Nick Chubb offenses end of October,

1453
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 2: it's a really bad sign. I think they're gonna want

1454
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 2: to pass the ball a lot and use they're gonna

1455
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 2: try to make Watson the guy and and will it work?

1456
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 4: And he played in this matchup a year ago two

1457
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 4: they had ten points in the in the rematch where

1458
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 4: the Bengals did a much better job on both sides

1459
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 4: of the ball.

1460
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: All right, I am up again.

1461
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 2: It's funny you just keep coming up in these drafts,

1462
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 2: just kind of oh, here I am again.

1463
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: It's time to make another pair.

1464
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 3: There's essentially three teams, right, three of us. You are

1465
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 3: the middle pick, so you have less time in Yeah.

1466
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 2: Let's let's grab one. Just the little backgrounds. I always

1467
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 2: I just like watching them. I think I like their uniforms.

1468
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 2: I love the building they play, and I love the

1469
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 2: fan base, and I feel kinship with them as a

1470
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 2: fellow tortured fan base. The Minnesota Vikings will welcome in

1471
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 2: Baker and the Bucks Minnesota lay and six points here

1472
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 2: of Wood minus six. There's not much that I need

1473
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 2: about on the buccaneer side of things. Now, if you're

1474
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 2: a Bucks fan, you're excited. We're all excited.

1475
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: It's Week one.

1476
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 4: R Books fans excited after what they've had the last

1477
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 4: few years, for this year.

1478
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 1: It's different.

1479
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 2: You're right, there is a hangover here because yeah, whenever

1480
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 2: Tom Brady exits the picture, it's different. But on the

1481
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 2: Minnesota side of things, I think one of the reasons

1482
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 2: why I think they could surprise people. It's weird to

1483
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:24,480
Speaker 2: say because they went thirteen and four, but their expectations.

1484
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 2: Everyone has recalibrated them as a also ran team and

1485
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 2: I don't think they're a Super Bowl contender, but I

1486
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 2: think their offense, even with Davin cook on, is going

1487
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 2: to be a top ten offense, maybe even top five.

1488
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 2: And I think Kirk Cousins had a down year in

1489
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 2: some ways by his standards, I could see him being

1490
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 2: better this year. I think Madison is going to fill

1491
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 2: in that role at running back in it and it's

1492
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 2: justin Jefferson, and I think those guys are going to

1493
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 2: take care of business. Here is another game. It's a

1494
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 2: little bit of a mirror one six points. I think

1495
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 2: Minnesota easily take care of business here and they get

1496
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 2: off to a nice start here.

1497
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 5: I mean, I kind of want to see what the

1498
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 5: Brian Flores effect is on this defense too, because it's

1499
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,679
Speaker 5: another for like some of these teams with some negative

1500
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 5: buzz happening, it has just been all positive in terms

1501
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 5: of like players just loving Brian Flores and there was

1502
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 5: a lot of that in Miami too, and he made

1503
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 5: a big difference in Miami. They are missing pieces on

1504
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 5: that defense, no doubt about it, but they can't be

1505
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 5: any worse than last year. And I'm with you to

1506
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 5: anything on offense. It's like, why would they take a

1507
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:32,879
Speaker 5: step back on offense? I think that that can continue?

1508
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 5: Are these close games? Thing is like it's natural that

1509
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 5: they're not winning thirteen games where they could be a

1510
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 5: better team than they were last year.

1511
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 2: You know what Kirk Cousins is great at, by the way,

1512
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 2: beyond throwing spirals and having good accuracy and being a

1513
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 2: good father, it seems appears to a nice guy, he's

1514
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 2: great at getting paid. Yes, and Kirk Cousins is in

1515
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 2: like a contract year's.

1516
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 3: Like him and Sam Bradford are in that world.

1517
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 1: Like and you don't see him that way.

1518
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 3: But Kirk, I don't think he's gonna like try hard.

1519
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 3: I know he's trying his hardest.

1520
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 2: But Kirk, the way his career has played out, the

1521
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 2: payday's always line up very nicely for him. If he

1522
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,839
Speaker 2: hit throws forty touchdowns this year and then gets another

1523
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 2: monster contract, like he's closing in on Sneaky one of

1524
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 2: the highest paid quarterbacks ever.

1525
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 3: Yep.

1526
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,839
Speaker 4: Good for him, And it might be from the Vikings,

1527
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 4: the fourth round pick yep, in the same draft as

1528
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 4: three RG three. I want to see that defense that

1529
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 4: you mentioned hold up like because to me, Flores is

1530
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 4: such a risk taker and you got to figure out

1531
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 4: what your players can do and what they can't do.

1532
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 4: And they have a pretty good veteran group at safety

1533
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 4: who I think are going to do a lot of

1534
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,560
Speaker 4: the heavy lifting for them. They just gave a contract

1535
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 4: to Josh Mattellus, a late round pick not a lot

1536
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 4: of people know about, but just one of those solid

1537
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:54,759
Speaker 4: guys who can do a little bit everything. Harrison Smith

1538
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 4: is still there and Vikings fans are excited about how

1539
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 4: they're using him all over the field, kind of like

1540
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 4: they were before Donna tell arrived. Cam Binam's been there

1541
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 4: for a while. So that's where I think a lot

1542
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 4: of the chicanery, a lot of the blitzes are gonna

1543
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 4: come from. And how is Baker Mayfield gonna respond there?

1544
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:15,719
Speaker 4: Because Flores is a boomer bust defensive coach, He's gonna

1545
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 4: give you a chance to make big plays you gotta

1546
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 4: be ready to take them. Baker Mayfield is not a

1547
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 4: quarterback who's necessarily handled pressure or different looks.

1548
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 3: Well.

1549
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 4: I don't think of him as a winning from the

1550
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 4: neck up. He's just not that quarterback. He hasn't been,

1551
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 4: and so this is gonna be a big first test

1552
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 4: for both of these sides. There's gonna be a chance

1553
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 4: here for Baker to just throw it up to Godwin

1554
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,640
Speaker 4: and Evans and like it could go wrong and we

1555
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:39,679
Speaker 4: could have a lot of points.

1556
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 3: I actually think this could be a sneaky, fun little game. Man.

1557
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 3: It is tough to get jazzed up about the Bucks though, right.

1558
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 2: I mean, this is this was the year that was coming.

1559
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 2: By the way, this is surprising because we talked about

1560
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 2: it earlier Greg. With Mayfield, when things break down a

1561
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,560
Speaker 2: little bit, little chaos enters the fray, things tend to

1562
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 2: get really bad. Per Next Gen Stats, Mayfield has the

1563
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 2: worst completion percentage and passer rating when not under pressure

1564
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 2: twenty twenty.

1565
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 1: Is one of the worst.

1566
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 2: Quarterbacks in the league. And it's just like he has

1567
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 2: this Q rating and he has these performances every once

1568
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 2: in a while that makes people believe in him and

1569
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 2: T shirts gets made and everything, but I'm setting his

1570
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 2: over under it starts four and a half.

1571
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 4: It doesn't have anyone else though. I mean, I know

1572
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 4: Kyle Trask is there, but that's a worse option. John

1573
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 4: Wilford hun taking me over at four and a half there, Yes.

1574
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 3: I would take.

1575
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 4: I think if anything can lose its job, then it's

1576
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 4: it's only because there's no no one else there.

1577
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 2: It's only all right that takes us to greg two

1578
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 2: picks to finish things out here.

1579
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 4: Okay, well, I don't really have any choices, and yet

1580
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 4: I know which game deserves to be last, So I'm

1581
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 4: going ram Seahawks next.

1582
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 3: Fun little game.

1583
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 1: This works out well for you, too, little pet teams.

1584
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:57,599
Speaker 3: Fun game.

1585
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 4: I thought hard as Nick mentioned about locking up the

1586
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 4: Seahawks in this spot. They are five and a half

1587
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 4: point favorites in this game and they should win. There's

1588
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 4: no Cooper Cup. He's officially out. They're considering injured reserved

1589
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 4: for him. We'll know about that for the weekend, so

1590
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 4: that would knock him out for four weeks.

1591
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 1: That stinks.

1592
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 4: I think Van Jefferson is a great fantasy pick up

1593
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 4: if he didn't get drafted in your league. And I

1594
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 4: noticed that he didn't in some like someone's got to

1595
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 4: catch passes on this team. I actually think the Rams

1596
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 4: have a lot of potential fantasy wise, because I think

1597
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 4: the defense is gonna be so bad. They have a

1598
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 4: really good quarterback if he's healthy, and he's healthy right now,

1599
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 4: and they're just gonna throw the ball a ton. Someone

1600
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 4: has to catch those passes. It's gonna be Higbee, it's

1601
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 4: gonna be Jefferson, it's gonna be the running backs, it's

1602
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 4: gonna be Nikua. But I would put Higbe and Jefferson

1603
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 4: at the top of this list. And I think this

1604
01:13:55,520 --> 01:14:01,639
Speaker 4: forty the Seahawks defense is vulnerable until Reven Otherwise, Uh,

1605
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 4: they don't have Devin Witherspoon. I don't think he's gonna

1606
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 4: play in this game. Their rookie top five pick Adams

1607
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 4: isn't back, and they just haven't been consistent. And then

1608
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 4: you think about when they played last year. Maybe you

1609
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 4: don't think about it at all. I think about it.

1610
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 4: We're a Rams household because of my daughter. She lives

1611
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 4: and dies by Ram Seahawks. And you know what those

1612
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 4: two Rams Seahawks games were. They were barn burners with

1613
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:26,680
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield that quarterback that went down to the very

1614
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 4: last second one of them in overtime. The Seahawks did

1615
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 4: manage to get through each of them, but it's a

1616
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 4: reminder this is a matchup that has traditionally really favored

1617
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 4: McVeigh and so that was the reason I didn't lock

1618
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:38,799
Speaker 4: it up. Actually, I just like something about the division

1619
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 4: matchup and the fact that the Rams had owned the

1620
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 4: Seahawks previously. It's just like, let's I just want to

1621
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 4: watch it. I'll enjoy it. I think the Seaws will

1622
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 4: be fine, but they could they could lose.

1623
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 5: I am not overly concerned about those two games from

1624
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 5: a year ago. Baker Mayfield and John Wolford nearly slaid

1625
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 5: the Seahawks twice, so that there there's that it's out there.

1626
01:14:56,040 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 5: But uh, Jackson Smith and Jigba practicing again. I think

1627
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 5: the Seahawks offense, uh that we know the wide receiver

1628
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,440
Speaker 5: group is, has a chance to be just phenomenal.

1629
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 3: Two of them already are.

1630
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 5: And Ginoe he did fall off a cliff a little

1631
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 5: bit in certain respects down the stretch last year, but

1632
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 5: I think you're gonna get the Gino Smith that you

1633
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 5: got for the vast majority of the season and you

1634
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 5: have no Cooper Cup. This Rams team on defense is

1635
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 5: a high school team half the time. Oh they are.

1636
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 5: There's like all these guys talk about like the most

1637
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 5: anonymous defense we've seen.

1638
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 1: In the here. Oh these are pros, bros.

1639
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 5: I'm locking up Seattle. I don't care what anyone says.

1640
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 5: This is my lock I feel confident. I got to

1641
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 5: come out of the gate and go like seven or

1642
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 5: zero or eight and zero to start this season, and

1643
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 5: it starts right here.

1644
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 1: I respect it as the line moved since the Cooper No.

1645
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 4: It's yes, two five and a half. I think it

1646
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 4: was four and a half.

1647
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's similar, and that is we're not I would

1648
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 2: think with Cooper Cup out of the game, that should

1649
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 2: be out of the lock zone.

1650
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 1: Now you're safe as long as it's not moved before

1651
01:15:57,880 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 1: the show.

1652
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 4: It's not even close though. It's five and it's still

1653
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 4: a point in a half away.

1654
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 2: The Rams win this game on the road without Cooper

1655
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 2: Cup coaching.

1656
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 3: And it's football.

1657
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:09,680
Speaker 4: We talk about all this football, yes, but that it's

1658
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 4: a good explanation why there's literally only one spread that

1659
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 4: is over seven points this week, because it's football and

1660
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 4: these teams are not as we convince ourselves that they're

1661
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 4: so different like the Seahawks last year. In the Rams

1662
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 4: you think of them is so different, right, But the

1663
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 4: two times they played, it came down to one play.

1664
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 4: It came down and needing to play at the end

1665
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 4: of the game from Gino And because he's Gino Smith

1666
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:36,480
Speaker 4: and frankly he's been underrepresented on this podcast this offseason,

1667
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:38,679
Speaker 4: he came through in a big spot and so that's

1668
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 4: why you're gonna lock it up.

1669
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:45,640
Speaker 2: What I just think there's a talent disparity and a

1670
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 2: road element to this, and.

1671
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 4: I just think we overrate the differences between these teams

1672
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 4: on a week to week basis.

1673
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 3: Vegas knows better than us in this week. That's fine.

1674
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 5: But I think the Rams defense, it's not just Gino Smith.

1675
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 5: I think they can run all over on this defense, yea,

1676
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 5: and I can take some things away from the preseason

1677
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 5: and it's like they were manhandled on the ground. There

1678
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 5: is just not a lot of evidence that they can

1679
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:08,679
Speaker 5: stop anyone.

1680
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 4: I love, I love me a little ramharb Zach Sharbony

1681
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 4: in this game, but also keep an eye on the

1682
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 4: Rams running game. I trust our friend George Rodrieg and

1683
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,719
Speaker 4: I think That's how Sean McVay sees this season being different.

1684
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 4: They're gonna unveil a lot of new fun stuff in

1685
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 4: terms of the running game with Akers and Kyrien Williams,

1686
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 4: and they might be pretty effective running too.

1687
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 2: As Bob Slas said on Hard Knocks, the season is

1688
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 2: a climb. It's Mount Everest. Just getting to this point

1689
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 2: is base camp and there's a long way to go.

1690
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 2: And I refer to Fox's Adam I mean Mark Schlereth

1691
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 2: and Christina Pink were tasked with traveling to Landover for Cardinals.

1692
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 2: I thought we were commanders the final game. I'm sorry

1693
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 2: for Adam, Mark and Christina. Move up that pyramid at

1694
01:17:57,320 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 2: Fox and you won't be assigned to this game in

1695
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 2: the ature right now, that's where you're at, and that's

1696
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 2: where we're at.

1697
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 1: Last game.

1698
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 4: Well, you know what this is not. They actually do

1699
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 4: rank the teams. They are not the bottom team. They

1700
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 4: were like actually in the middle.

1701
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 1: Guess what.

1702
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:13,560
Speaker 2: There's a tech thread with Adam, Mark and Christina on it, like, wtf,

1703
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 2: we're not at the bottom.

1704
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 3: I get. I guess it's that the Commanders have a

1705
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:19,599
Speaker 3: nice audience.

1706
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 1: I don't know they renamed the thread WTF.

1707
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 7: I like.

1708
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 4: I like this game enough because it involves the Commando's,

1709
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:28,600
Speaker 4: my sneaky playoff team. They're seven point favorites even in

1710
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 4: this game. This is one of the Craig there I

1711
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 4: do because Week one I do, I do Week one

1712
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,679
Speaker 4: I do. They're all special teams that we don't know about.

1713
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 3: Cardinals.

1714
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 4: I'm less interested in Sam Howell. I'm very interested in

1715
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 4: Terry McLaurin back at practice. Sounds like he might play.

1716
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:51,719
Speaker 4: We'll see just a little word of advice, like a pain.

1717
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 4: Let's just look at the Cardinals as maybe a week

1718
01:18:56,520 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 4: we can handle things with Johan Dotson, with Logan Thomas

1719
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 4: is back in the mix, with our running game and

1720
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 4: with our defense. And that's where I really worry about

1721
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 4: the Cardinals. I think Josh Dobbs is going to start

1722
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 4: this game, according to Rapshi, even though the coach for

1723
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 4: Arizona will not disclose who is starting. Mark is that

1724
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 4: kept you up at nights?

1725
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:15,680
Speaker 3: It has kept me.

1726
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:17,679
Speaker 1: Up competition decision.

1727
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 4: He says it could be Clayton Tune, it could be

1728
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 4: Josh Stabbs, but being rap part says it's going.

1729
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 5: To be I think, first of all, Dobbs was brought

1730
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 5: in by, you know, the O C who was his

1731
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 5: There's got to be some connective tissue there. I think

1732
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 5: Sam Howell makes this spicy. I really do, because it's

1733
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,480
Speaker 5: like we we saw, we saw a lot in the preseason,

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01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 5: we saw at the end of last year, and like

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01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:41,839
Speaker 5: they're an intriguing team.

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Speaker 3: To me because of this.

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Speaker 5: I think that Greg, I think you have them as

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01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 5: a playoff team, right, your final card team.

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01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 3: They do go in and handle business. But Sam Howell

1740
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:49,639
Speaker 3: like makes them.

1741
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 5: They have been a tough watch for years on end,

1742
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 5: and I feel differently about him right now.

1743
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 4: If you can play, go be special. Commanders D line.

1744
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 4: I have been talking you up. This is not necessary

1745
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 4: a great car, those offensive line otho. It's probably one

1746
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 4: of the parts of the teams they feel best about.

1747
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 4: But they could make Josh Dobbs' life trouble.

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01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,759
Speaker 1: This is it late in the afternoon game, pass knockout.

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01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 1: This is.

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01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:15,440
Speaker 3: The NFL plus.

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01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that old one where yeah, he's starting O

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01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 2: and off and you got to keep on rewinding back

1753
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 2: around and realize that you knotted off again, and all

1754
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 2: of a sudden you're an hour deep into this project of.

1755
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 1: Watching the game.

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01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:29,639
Speaker 2: Unless Sam Howe lights up the world and then again,

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01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 2: and that's why week one is beautiful, perfect landing spot

1758
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:37,760
Speaker 2: for week one for the Commandos and how they light

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01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 2: up the Cards all.

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01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,720
Speaker 1: Of a sudden, like, oh, maybe Washington.

1761
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:43,639
Speaker 2: Is a player here and how is the guy that

1762
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 2: they're talking about he is now keep in mind the opponent.

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01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:49,720
Speaker 1: But nice start for them.

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01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 4: It's gotta be tough to take Cardinals without though their

1765
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 4: team captain, Kyler Murray. I thought that was very interesting.

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01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 4: They named Kyler Murray the team captain, one of the

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01:20:57,479 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 4: few despite I think it makes sense.

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01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 2: We were just talking about how the potential that he's

1769
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 2: an afterthought and could be moved. Why would you do

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01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:06,599
Speaker 2: that unless you kind of maybe thought in your heart

1771
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 2: that not only do you see him as a part

1772
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 2: of the team now but in the future and a

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01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 2: guy that you want to play this year because he's

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01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 2: a captain.

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01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 5: It also would have been a little weird if you

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01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 5: weren't named captain. Yeah, I know he's hurt, but he

1777
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:20,759
Speaker 5: is your quarterback.

1778
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 2: You could but you're right, there's that side of it

1779
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 2: as well. Good stuff anything else that's Week one. The preview,

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01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 2: Like I said, we will have the Thursday night recap

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01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 2: for you to enjoy. You will have an NFL Plus premiere.

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01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 2: The Dreamatorium comes alive for around the NFL, So if

1783
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 2: you have an NFL Plus subscription or on dot om

1784
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 2: in international territories, that's where you can find that program.

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Speaker 1: Football's back, Greg Football, keep a call.