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Speaker 1: Ron and aian. My wife wants a newer car. John.

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Speaker 1: This is where I would stop the conversation, because you

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Speaker 1: know my wife wants a newer car. Why are we

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Speaker 1: talking about this? Happy wife, happy life. It's wrong. I

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Speaker 1: gotta make it right, Happy life, happy the car Doctor.

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Speaker 1: But this is a brand new car. But I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: the winners don't work. How many miles are on this root? Okay,

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Speaker 1: so it's time to call the Cadillac the oler and say, listen, guys,

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Speaker 1: I've got an intermittent problem. Welcome to the radio home

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Speaker 1: of ron An Anian, the Car Doctor. Since nineteen ninety one,

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Speaker 1: this is where car owners the world overturned to for

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Speaker 1: their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving

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Speaker 1: you a busy signal, pick up the phone and call in.

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Speaker 1: The garage doors are open, but I am here to

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Speaker 1: take your call at eighty five five five six nine

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Speaker 1: hundred and now he running. Well, here we go with

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Speaker 1: and thank you, thank you, thank you for being there.

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Speaker 1: It's before we get started. Let me say a little tom,

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Speaker 1: how are you today? Mister Ray? Oh, I'm hanging in

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Speaker 1: this dreary day here on the East coast. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of like that. You have a note for me. Somebody

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Speaker 1: called in about the tire problem I was talking about

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Speaker 1: in a previous hour. Yeah, and he said something about

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Speaker 1: colored dots needing to be in the same place. Well,

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Speaker 1: the thinking used to be. And I would have loved

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Speaker 1: to have talked this, you know, when somebody calls in

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Speaker 1: put them up on air. Next time I did, I tried. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's weird. I don't get it. You know, the colored

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Speaker 1: dot conversation is really, in my mind, old school thinking,

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Speaker 1: because it doesn't apply anymore. I've had tire manufacturers because

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Speaker 1: I've asked this question. It used to be that you

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Speaker 1: would line up the colored dot with the valve stem.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not sure where this stands now. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if this isn't an old wives tale or what

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Speaker 1: the truth is. I've had tire manufacturers tell me that

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Speaker 1: you line it up with the dot with the stem.

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Speaker 1: I've had them tell me that you put the dot

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Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty degrees out from the stem. And

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Speaker 1: then most of the Michelin's that we did this week,

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Speaker 1: and we did, I think we did seven sets of

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Speaker 1: tires this week, five of which were Michelin. Michelin doesn't

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Speaker 1: put a dot on their tire, so then what do

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Speaker 1: you do? So you know, a lot of this is

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Speaker 1: going away in terms of put the dot with the stem.

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Speaker 1: A lot of technology is changing. It's changing to the

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Speaker 1: point now where we're doing better balancing and the tire

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Speaker 1: wheel balancing equipment is got it in a lot better.

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Speaker 1: The technology is there now. And one of the things

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Speaker 1: that were that was what I was going to ask,

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Speaker 1: if you're putting it on the tire balancer and you're

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Speaker 1: balancing the tire, what does the dot have to do

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Speaker 1: with it? Well, because it shows you where the manufacturer

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Speaker 1: deemed they want the tire lined up with the stem,

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Speaker 1: with the idea being that it corrects for the weight

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Speaker 1: of the stem. I mean, I've heard a hundred arguments

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Speaker 1: as to why they want it there, right. I understand Tom.

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Speaker 1: I've heard the argument that they're they're concerned about the

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Speaker 1: the dot, where the heavy part of the tire is.

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Speaker 1: All of this is going away, and everything I've read

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Speaker 1: in my experience and what I've been through is you've

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Speaker 1: got to go look at Hunter's got the best technology,

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Speaker 1: Hunter Wheel Alignment all right, or Hunter Tire Service, whatever

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Speaker 1: they want to call themselves. You know, their roadforce machine

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Speaker 1: compensates for tires that are weighted incorrectly or high spots,

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Speaker 1: low spots, concentricity, and to do a roadforce balance is

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Speaker 1: really the future of tire balancing. And we're going to

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Speaker 1: this year, but it's the whole dot thing is going away.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't transcribe by that anymore. And I've

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Speaker 1: seen too many cases where, like I said, the Michelins

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Speaker 1: to put the tire. To tell you the truth, when

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Speaker 1: we look at tires dot or no doubt, what we

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Speaker 1: do is, if we have the choice, if it's not

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Speaker 1: Jack and Boston. Oh three town car Jack, how can

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Speaker 1: I help you today? So run an Anian at your service.

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Speaker 1: Run and Damien, Happy Saturday. Thanks for taking the call.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome. I got a two thousand and three Lincoln

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Speaker 1: problem because I did some break work early, or I

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Speaker 1: to push the break forward lines, and you know, they

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Speaker 1: glog he's put on them or something. Well, let's back

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Speaker 1: up a second here, Jack, So what your your main

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Speaker 1: concern is, because I'm always curious why somebody wants to

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Speaker 1: do something. So your concern is that the brake pedal

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Speaker 1: isn't as good as it used to be. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: not as he's not as high up on, you know,

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Speaker 1: pedal correct? All right? Because you can't compare it to

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Speaker 1: the other vehicles. What are the other vehicles you're comparing

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Speaker 1: it to? What else do you drive? I drive school bus? Okay?

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Speaker 1: What your escape two thousand and three? All right, so

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Speaker 1: you're all you're all an older technology, all right, I'll

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Speaker 1: Do you have? Jack stands? Can you can you work

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Speaker 1: a brake caliper that's hanging up, that doesn't float and

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Speaker 1: move to accommodate padware as it changes, all right, Just

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Speaker 1: So I want to know, do all the calipers move freely?

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Speaker 1: What kind of shape or the brakes in? How badly

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Speaker 1: rusted or rotted are the rotors? Do the rotors? Are

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Speaker 1: get that stuff up there called snow that they throw

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Speaker 1: brake rotors, right, fair statement? Yeah, Okay, So let's make

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Speaker 1: sure the breaks themselves are in good condition. Master cylinders

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Speaker 1: the last step here. And you know, for anybody to say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: those Lincolns have funny brake pedals, I don't think they're

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Speaker 1: looking at the problem correctly. They're they're just trying to

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Speaker 1: air in the system. Once we get through all that,

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Speaker 1: they're they're they're they're working as designed, that the calipers move,

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Speaker 1: that the rotors are in good shape. I want you

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Speaker 1: I want you to do about ten fifteen miles an

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Speaker 1: pop the brake pedal hard a couple of times. All right,

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Speaker 1: what you're doing? What you're doing? Is you ever sand

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Speaker 1: a piece of wood? Yeah, okay, you're standing against the grain.

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Speaker 1: You ever notice if you sand against the grain, you

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Speaker 1: you're going backwards against the grain. You're scuffing up or

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Speaker 1: roughing up the brake pad. And then drive the car forward.

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Speaker 1: Do that a couple of times, and then drive the

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Speaker 1: that's all that? Sure, Yeah, it's possible. That's all it is.

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Speaker 1: But the rotors have to be in good condition. I

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many times, how many cars

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Speaker 1: come into the shop. The outside rotors are clean. There

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Speaker 1: there there, they look good. They've got a good swept area.

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Speaker 1: The brake rotors are doing their job. But the inside

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Speaker 1: are They've got a three eighths of an inch rust

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Speaker 1: is tracking on a third of its normal area, and

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Speaker 1: that just doesn't work. Multiply that times four wheels and

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Speaker 1: the brakes are off by thirty thirty five percent in

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Speaker 1: terms of efficiency. Here's a ice deal question. I had

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Speaker 1: another two thousand three talent card that had good pots

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Speaker 1: So I said, let me take off that mass of

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Speaker 1: Silana and swap it. So when I try to take

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Speaker 1: off the mass of Clona, I just checked the lines

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Speaker 1: and took off the nuts. The thing was like so

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Speaker 1: good on. I said, my gosh, you won't even pop off.

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Speaker 1: So someone said they use some sort of adhesive to

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Speaker 1: put on the mass of Cylinda. I haven't seen that.

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Speaker 1: pop it with a rubber mallet, and you should break

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Speaker 1: the bond with the booster. It came, it came apart

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Speaker 1: as a It came apart as and you know, listen

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Speaker 1: what you what you could be experiencing is an example

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Speaker 1: of Boston winters and corrosion. Right, yeah, so yeah, I

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Speaker 1: always frustrated. Yeah, now let me let me mention this too.

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Speaker 1: smooth surfaces, the calipers all move, everything is beautiful. All right.

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Speaker 1: You let me know what happens. Jack, you'd be well.

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Speaker 1: Honda c RV. Rick. Welcome to the car doctor, sir.

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Speaker 1: How can I help well, Sir, My wife was driving

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Speaker 1: waited about ten minutes it restarted. She went on in

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Speaker 1: it didn't do it. They drove it again, it did

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Speaker 1: So now they're telling me to take it to Honda,

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Speaker 1: let's is it broken right now? Rick that it doesn't start.

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Speaker 1: It's sitting in the shop and they've been running it.

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Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five thousand. Could we have a

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Speaker 1: circle the block twelve times? Okay? You know, do I

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Speaker 1: how would we fix it? Spark, fuel compression, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's all the same, it's just bigger with four wheels. Right.

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Speaker 1: So the guy did say that he thought that he thinks,

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Speaker 1: And I, you know, I talked to him once at

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Speaker 1: But the story was the same the last time I called.

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Speaker 1: They can't figure it out because there's no code. So now, listen,

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Speaker 1: Ask him if they have a spark tester, and if not,

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Speaker 1: It'll look like a spark plug with an alligator clip

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Speaker 1: you what, Rick, Sit tight, Let me let me pull over.

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Speaker 1: Take this pause. I want to rush this. When I

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Speaker 1: This isn't impossible. I'm running any in the car doctor.

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Speaker 1: Runnee the car doctor on the phone with Rick and Kentucky. Rick,

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Speaker 1: you're still there, sir, Yes, sir. Do you work on

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Speaker 1: cars as a kid? No? Okay, What do you do

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Speaker 1: defense contractor. All right, so you you get you get

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Speaker 1: So you know, spark is spark, fuel is fuel. Mechanical compressions,

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Speaker 1: mechanical compression. This is a two thousand. This car still

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Speaker 1: What ended up fixing it? It's been timed, it's been

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Speaker 1: It was off brand. Some of these parts won't available

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Speaker 1: All right, how would and now when it's driving, you're

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Speaker 1: You got an auto zone by you? Yes? Okay, go

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Speaker 1: But you'll get the idea. The spark is gonna jump

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Speaker 1: that if you tell me, hey, Ron, the car died

424
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: and I put the spark tester on it and I

425
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 1: had no spark, it's a spark issue. Then the next

426
00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: thing I want you to do when you're an AutoZone

427
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: is by a mechanic stethoscope. You know they're twenty bucks,

428
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 1: and get used to listening to the injectors and then

429
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: while somebody cranks the engine. You know you could do

430
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 1: this again. Do it when the engine is running, do

431
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: it when the car is good. Listen to the injector.

432
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: Just put the injector, put the stethoscope right on the

433
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 1: injector and your hair click click click click, click click click.

434
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: Why is that important? Because it can tell us whether

435
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 1: we've got if we've got injector pulse. But no spark

436
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: is different than no injector pulse. No spark on certain cars,

437
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: maybe not necessarily on this one. It can point us

438
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 1: towards a crank sensor, a camp sensor, and so on.

439
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: I'm trying to teach you how to diagnose, not just

440
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: work on a Honda. All right. So if this gets

441
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: to where we have no spark and no injector pulse

442
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: and I've got power on that black yellow wire, I'm

443
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: gonna bet I've got a bad igniter and I'll take

444
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: you into the distributor when we go through that. But

445
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: then the next step is going to be is to

446
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: pull the distributor cap off and look inside. What does

447
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: it look like? Is anything grinding up? Do we have

448
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 1: any metal filings? Do we show any signs of arcing?

449
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 1: Ignititers were so common to fail on this rick. And

450
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: you know, my my experience has been the aftermarket stuff

451
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: just did not seem to hold up, because the truth

452
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 1: be told, a lot of the alleged rebuilt distributors were

453
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 1: cores that people turned in and they've got no way

454
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: to test that ignitor, not that I ever saw, not

455
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 1: not to the level that you know we would experience.

456
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: And it just got the original ignit or in it.

457
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: It's just got a new distributor captain rotor in it. Okay,

458
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: so you might have Okay, so this this might be

459
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: the igniter issue. I wonder if you have it? Do

460
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: you have it? Do you have a high high output

461
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: hair dryer at home? Yeah? Okay, I wonder if you

462
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: took that hair dryer, let the vehicle idle, and applied

463
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: heat the form a hot air to that distributor body.

464
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 1: If you heat it up, does the ignitor cut off?

465
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,360
Speaker 1: You know what effect heat has on electronics, right right? So,

466
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: but again, gonna measure power on the yellow and black wires.

467
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 1: If you have to take the distributor off to get it,

468
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 1: can I just take it off and then turn the

469
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 1: k on or Well that that comes directly from fuse nine.

470
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: So where it comes in at that connector. There's a

471
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: connector right there. You know, if you can find it,

472
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: if you can find a spot in the harness, you're

473
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: gonna do it one of two ways. You're either going

474
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: to use a self piercing probe and you know, just

475
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: pierce the wire. Just make sure you know a little

476
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: nail polish or something to cover it back up and

477
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: seal it up with some kind of sealant or some

478
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: kind of tape because we don't want to let moisture

479
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: get in there, you know, And and just measure what

480
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: I've done in a situation like this is maybe not

481
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: like this, It depends on the harness. But this is

482
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 1: where I talk about you hear me talk about go

483
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 1: buy a side marker one ninety four bulb, little tiny bulb,

484
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 1: and we always use those because they're small. Yeah, I've

485
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: heard you talk about it. Right. So here's a classic case.

486
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: If I could get that one ninety four bulb in

487
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: between that black yellow wire and the distributor and put

488
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: that bulb inside the car. Once I know this is

489
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: no spark, I might go through this pain all right.

490
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: Where I'll put that ball, I'll wire it out and

491
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: run a wire inside the car. If the car shuts

492
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 1: off and I've still got power on that black yellow

493
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 1: because the bulb is lit. Sure seems like I've got

494
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: a Sure, seems like I've got some sort of an

495
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 1: igniter issue. Just trying to jump ahead. And probably, and

496
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: probably what I would do here is I would put

497
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: one leg of the of the bulb. I would put

498
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: one leg of the bulb to the hot of the

499
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: wire and ground the other side. So I'm just I'm

500
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: just counting on that fuse. I just want to know

501
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: ken that fuse provide power to the to the distributor itself. Okay,

502
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: which wire is hot? It's black yellow? Well, one's returning,

503
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: one's hot. One should be ground and well black yellow

504
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: feeds the positive side of the coil. Oh you mean

505
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 1: it's got two colors on the water. Yeah, it's it's

506
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: a black yellow wire. Right. Oh that's okay, Yeah, that's okay.

507
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: And then and then the negative side is controlled internally

508
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: inside the distributor. I got you, I'm there, I'm with

509
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: you now, all right, I mean listen the other side

510
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: of this argument, all right. And I hate to say this,

511
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: but if we have to, if we have to, you know,

512
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: clean it up and cut it up and make it

513
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: happen fast. Ask the guys at AutoZone do they have

514
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: a rebuilt distributor? How much is it? You know, sometimes

515
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: if it's fifty bucks, what are the odds that could

516
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: create the same scenario, although you know maybe with your luck,

517
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: um you know, uh, just just be mindful to be aware.

518
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: So for fifty bucks, sometimes it's a cheaper diagnosis. So distributor,

519
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: you mean a distributor, cap, distributor, body distributor, distributor assembly.

520
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: And when you pull that old distributor out, you're gonna

521
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: see it's offset on the gear, it's offset on the

522
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: cam position, so it's easy to take out and put

523
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: back in. You will need a timing like to set

524
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: it back up. Okay, all right, sir, So you're driving

525
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: it sounds like if you're driving towards an igniter. Yeah,

526
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: that's what I'm thinking. But I want to see it

527
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: do a few things here, all right, I want to

528
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 1: see it do a few things. I want to see

529
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: you go through some of the tests. Call me back

530
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: next week, let me know what you find. Okay, thank you,

531
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: You're very welcome. You'd be well five zero nine nine

532
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: zero zero. The Car Doctor is coming back right after this.

533
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: Don't go away. Welcome back, Randy, Answer Service. Let me

534
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: just Rick if you're still out there in Kentucky. Way,

535
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: keep in mind, you know, popping a if you can

536
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: get a replacement distributor for fifty bucks, and it just

537
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: cuts down the diagnostic steps once you know it's a

538
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: spark related issue. If that solves a short term then

539
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: you can go and take the expertise or take the

540
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: time and go find a real Honda igniter, which probably

541
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: is still out there somewhere, but it's going to come

542
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: at quite an expense at least then you know. And

543
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: sometimes you just gotta do things like this on older

544
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: cars with higher mileage. So I don't really like swapping parts.

545
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: I don't do it often, but yeah, sometimes you just

546
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: have to. That's part of the process process. So um,

547
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: go ahead and give us a call. Let's know what happens.

548
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: Andy and Florida. What's what can I do for you today?

549
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. Yes, thank you for

550
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: taking my call. Yes, sir, I about this. Used a

551
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: Nissan Rogue and I didn't realize it because I bought

552
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: it in the daytime that at night, the driving light

553
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: and the passenger of the driver rear does not come on.

554
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: I thought it was just a ball or something like that,

555
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,239
Speaker 1: and mentor all of it. It is a mixture of

556
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: analog and led. Everything works on the car except at

557
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: night when you put on the driving lights, the left

558
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: rear led does not come on. Everything else works, okay.

559
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: And the and also the license plate lights doesn't work

560
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: the one you know, they're one. Both both license plate

561
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: lights do not light up, correct, okay, which which that's

562
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: that's analog right, all right, So now let's do this.

563
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: I'll give it a little more. Yeah, I'm sorry, but

564
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: get it a little more. Uh. It did come with

565
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: a hitch. So when I looked for the wiring, couldn't

566
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: find the wiring. So I went to a hitch place

567
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: that I take it often to all the vehicles, and

568
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: they said the wiring was cut off. It was no,

569
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: it wasn't there, and I said, okay, put the wiring in.

570
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: They ordered the wiring. We put the wiring. I come

571
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,239
Speaker 1: out and talked to the technician, says, you know, when

572
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: I was doing the wiring and I was taking the

573
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: panels off on the inside, I saw a green wire

574
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: that was cut, I said, a green water. I thought

575
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: the brown wire would be the wire that would um,

576
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: you know, turn those lights on. So the bottom line is,

577
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: took it to another technician. They worked on it for

578
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: two hours. They could not find the problem. They tore

579
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: all the inside of that car out. So I don't know.

580
00:30:55,280 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: But everything else works except for the driving light rear left.

581
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: All right, So here's my question. The license plate lights.

582
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: All right, the license plate lights are gonna have a

583
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: pink and a red wire. Pink feeds the left, red

584
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: feeds the right. Do you have twelve volts there? Pink

585
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: and red? Okay? All right? The ground? The ground is

586
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: in the left deep pillar, the deep pillars behind the

587
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: passenger seat. Okay, but the ground is the same. It's

588
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: it's just you're gonna have at each at each license

589
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: plate light, you're gonna have a pink in a black

590
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: and a red and a black. Do you have hot?

591
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: Do you have power and ground? All right? Now? Obviously,

592
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: if you put the meter across that, or if you

593
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: put a test bowl across that and it shows nothing,

594
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: all that tells you is that you have nothing. It

595
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: doesn't mean the ground is bad or the hots bad.

596
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: What do you miss, and so you might have to

597
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: use an individual ground or an individual hot to test

598
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: the ground, if you get what I'm saying. Okay, all right,

599
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: if we can make the license plate lights work, that

600
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: might have an effect on we might back ourselves into

601
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: why the LEDs don't work as far as the LEDs

602
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: are concerned. All right, you're saying it's the tail light.

603
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: Just the tail light, okay, the left that should be

604
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: there are two pieces. Okay. Now, they did try to

605
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: They did try to bypass it and it worked. You know,

606
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: they got somehow hot to it and the lights work.

607
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: So it's not the lights. It's not the ledal what

608
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: what worked? The LEDs worked. The LEDs work when they

609
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: bypassed it. To see if it was the light itself

610
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: needed to be replaced. Okay, So go to the go

611
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: to the left rear light. There should be a purple red.

612
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: That purple red is hot for the tail light. We

613
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: don't have to check the ground because the ground is.

614
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: If you're saying the light lights up, then we know

615
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: the ground is good. Which, by the way, the same

616
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: ground B nineteen is also the ground for the license

617
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: plate lights. So there's your commonality. Okay, all right now.

618
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: If if you don't have hot at the purple red,

619
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: or you don't have hot at the at the at

620
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: the pink and the red going to the license plate lights,

621
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: work your way back up in behind the left quarter

622
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: panel and see what that does for you. I'll tell

623
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: you what. Sit tight. Let me come back and let

624
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: me pull over, and we'll finish this up. Right after

625
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: I get back. I'm running any of the car doctor,

626
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: don't go anywhere. Welcome back running any of the car doctor.

627
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: And you're still there in Florida here. Let me finish

628
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: my thoughts. Um, do the stop lights work? Do the

629
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: brake flight work? Both sides? In the back of this car,

630
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: everything works on the nlog side. Okay, So then I

631
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: want to go back, because let's go back behind the

632
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: left quarter panel. There's a junction connector and everything goes there. Uh,

633
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: the the digital for the LEDs for the tail, for

634
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: the license plate, the analog for the license plate, everything

635
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: goes to this junction connector behind the left quarter panel

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Speaker 1: that's fed by a purple red. That purple red is

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Speaker 1: likely good because there are things on that circuit that

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Speaker 1: still work. Right. So I think your problem, I think

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Speaker 1: your problem is somewhere between the tail lamp and that

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Speaker 1: junction connector, and that's what you have to break down.

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Speaker 1: It would be easier if you had a wiring diagram

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Speaker 1: for this. You don't have a wiring diagram for this car?

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Speaker 1: Do you know? Are you going to try? Are you

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Speaker 1: going to try and fix this on your own? Oh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right? Are you planning? Are you planning on keeping

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Speaker 1: the car? Absolutely? Are you a hand kind of guy? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I am. Do yourself a favorite, spend one hundred bucks

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Speaker 1: by all that at the y, buy yourself a subscription

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Speaker 1: to the car. They'll sell you a subscription for the year,

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Speaker 1: and you'll get all the same information as a repair shop.

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Speaker 1: Wiring diagrams, bulletins, parts information, disassembly, the whole thing. You'll

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Speaker 1: find them online at all ata dot com or just

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Speaker 1: Google search all datady dot com. But you need a

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Speaker 1: wiring diagram to see where you're going. But I'm betting

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Speaker 1: your problem is somewhere between the tail lamps and that

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Speaker 1: junction connector. And if not, at least with a wiring

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Speaker 1: diagram from all data, you'll be able to pick your

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Speaker 1: way through it. Call me if you need more andy.

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Speaker 1: Till the next time, I'm Ron and Ady in the

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Speaker 1: car doctor, reminding you good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.

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Speaker 1: See you