1 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: The Cowboys have reported to training camp, and so is 2 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: that man Michael Parsons who is still waiting for his 3 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: megadeal before he gets hit by a car. That is 4 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: a real thing, Jerry Jones brought up today when discussing 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: parsons situation, and boy, will you want to hear the rest. 6 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: Don't worry, We're gonna play it tonight. The Chiefs have 7 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: also officially gone camping and expectations are as high as ever, 8 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: but one of the biggest concerns about the supporting cast 9 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: around Patrick Maholmes. We will break down what stands between 10 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: them and their sixth Super Bowl appearance in seven years. 11 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: Training camp's launching around the NFL through the next couple 12 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,639 Speaker 1: of days, which means it's officially time to dial in 13 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: on your fantasy plans. Our Adam Rank will be here 14 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: with some hot takes on which receivers to target and 15 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: who may not be targeted enough. Welcome inside with the 16 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 1: insiders alongside Ian Rappaport, Judy Batista and Mike Garrafolo. I 17 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: am Tom Pelicero. When you got four of us here 18 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: all together, you know that can mean only one thing, 19 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: not just that we're forty five days out from kickoff 20 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Within the next forty eight hours, all 21 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: thirty two teams will officially be in training camp. Cowboys 22 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: already there out in Oxnard, California, and as I just said, 23 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons did make that trip, even though it remains 24 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: unclear at this point how much, if at all, Michaeh. 25 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: Parsons is going to be doing when practice officially kicks 26 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: off on Tuesday. Jerry Jones, who is never shy about 27 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: talking about his players, their participation, and certainly their contracts, 28 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: he had a few thoughts in his opening press conference today. 29 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: Just because we signed him doesn't mean we're going to 30 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: have him. He was hurt six games last year. Seriously, 31 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 2: we've signed I remember signing a player for the highest 32 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: plaid at position in the league and he got knocked 33 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 2: out two thirds of the year, Dark Prescott. So there's 34 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: a lot of things you can think about when you 35 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: just as the player does, when you're thinking about committing 36 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 2: and guaranteeing money. 37 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 3: On the tango part of it. Though, Mike go sitting 38 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 3: the podcast that ownership. 39 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: Has over complicated this thing. 40 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: In your mind, you guys think this has been over complicated. 41 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: Of all of the people that I've set down with 42 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 2: as a player, of all the players that I've ever 43 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: negotiated with, Michael Parson is as savvy and knowledgeable and 44 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: understanding of his financial business relative to football as any 45 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: player I've ever been around. 46 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: JJ Watt just done with the victory tour for his 47 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: brother's contract. Pleen in on Jerry Jones comments, saying, in part, 48 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: any time you can publicly take a dig a year 49 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: star quarterback and your start pass rusher simultaneously right before 50 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: the season begins, you just gotta take it. Good thing 51 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: that we've got our Jane Slater in ox Star California 52 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: for what does register as the first live shot of 53 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: a very busy several weeks of trading camp coverage right 54 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: here on NFL Network. Jane, you are many things to us, 55 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: to the show, to this network. You're definitely the person 56 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: most fluent in Jerry Jones. You heard the entirety of 57 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: that press conference, what he had to say about Michah Parsons. 58 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? 59 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 4: All right, let me break a few things down now. 60 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 5: I did talk to Micah Parsons during that press conference 61 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 5: and he confirmed me that he is here now. Tuesday 62 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 5: is the first practice. To what extent he will engage 63 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 5: still unclear. The team and Michah Parsons not answering that question. 64 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 5: But as head coach Brian Schottenheimer and Jerry Jones pointed out, 65 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 5: you don't have to be actively hitting or tackling players 66 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 5: to make an impact out here, and so that's important. 67 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 5: But let's get into some of the things. I like 68 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 5: to call it reading between the lines, since neither side. 69 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 4: Is getting into the specifics. I mean, my big question. 70 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 5: I know the fans are asking, well, if you started 71 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 5: talking to Micah back in March, which he did right 72 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 5: after Combine, he was in his office, why isn't this 73 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 5: deal done yet? One Jerry doesn't agree with the notion 74 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 5: of paying and negotiating a new deal when there is 75 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 5: an existing one in place. A lot of teams do 76 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 5: because they see numbers go up. Well his defense, he 77 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 5: believes agents operate and what he calls a projected apy, 78 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 5: in other words, what they think the market value will 79 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 5: be for the player in a year versus what the 80 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 5: team does three They say the value of the valuation 81 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 5: process is not just about them as a player, but 82 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 5: as a person. They get to evaluate younger players while 83 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 5: this plays out and see if someone like Micah Parsons 84 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 5: is growing and progressing in the leadership area, because, as 85 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 5: Jerry Jones put it, you've got ten percent of your 86 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,239 Speaker 5: people making two thirds of the money, so it's incumbent 87 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 5: on them to walk the walk and lead again, breaking 88 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 5: all this down, listening to Jerry Jones and Steven Jones today, 89 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 5: it sounds like when he talks about going to the 90 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 5: mirror looking at things that he can do better, maybe 91 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 5: he feels like he gave money, you know, that big 92 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 5: two thirds of the roster, money to guys like Terrence 93 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 5: Seele and Rayvon Diggs too early while they still had contracts. 94 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 5: They were looking for the extension, and maybe he wishes 95 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 5: he hadn't. It's unfortunate that that is now trickling down 96 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 5: to Micah Parsons. But I will tell you this, We've 97 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 5: been here before. It has been far more contentious. I 98 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 5: know some people thought maybe he was throwing his players 99 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 5: under the bus. Not something I walked away with. I 100 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 5: know he's got a lot of respect for Micah Parsons. 101 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 5: If anything, maybe not as much respect as maybe he 102 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 5: should have for the agent, saying instead he only talked 103 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 5: to the principles involved in the contract negotiations. He hasn't 104 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 5: had much talk with David Mugoletta, so I don't know 105 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 5: how that is going to impact negotiations, but I do 106 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 5: get the sense that this is going to get done 107 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 5: with Micah Parsons. I just tend to think it's better 108 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 5: for the team when you put a bow on these 109 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 5: things before you get back to practice, especially with a 110 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,239 Speaker 5: new DC and a new head coach. 111 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs, who took the NFL by storm as a 112 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: rookie with all those interceptions, had some injury. Since he's 113 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: back in the news as well, Jane, you'll be back 114 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: with more on the dig situation and a lot more 115 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: on the Cowboys in just a little bit. Take a 116 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: look at them market. Jerry's right. Agents like to project 117 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: what the market is going to be, and recently their 118 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: projections that the market was going to skyrocket have absolutely 119 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: been correct. As we termed it back during Super Bowl Sunday, 120 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: this was the off season of the pass rusher Max Crosby, 121 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: the Neil Hunter, Miles Garrett, TJ. Watt have all gotten 122 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: their deals. There's still a few names left that have 123 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: not yet gotten paid. Michael Parsons certainly high up on 124 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: that list. Ian we know, by Jerry Jones Michael Parsons's 125 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: own words, Jerry thought he had a deal done with Michaeh. 126 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: Parsons months and months ago. It seems like it's been 127 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: less active of late. Here, No question it's going to 128 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: be a big number. What do you envision be in 129 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: the timeline on how this entire thing plays out? 130 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, let's talk about the number, because 131 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 3: you see the forty million dollars from Ales Gary, see 132 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 3: the forty one million dollars for TJ Watt per year 133 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 3: I expected to coming over and this is all said 134 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 3: and done, Michaeh. Parsons likely is, almost certainly is the 135 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: highest paid non quarterback in the NFL, as he should be, 136 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 3: and he has been content to wait. I've talked about 137 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 3: this plenty on this show. When a deal gets done, 138 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: Michael Parsons will likely be the last pass rusher to 139 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: get a deal done before the season. Aiden Hutchinson of 140 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 3: the Detroit Lions is the other big name, high octane 141 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 3: pass rusher currently discussing a potential long term deal. Once 142 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 3: that get done. If that gets done before Michael Parsons 143 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 3: and Parsons officially on the clock. This really is a 144 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 3: fascinating one. Though it is not that that uncommon for 145 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 3: teams to go to players and try to circumvent the agent, 146 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 3: it actually happens more than it probably should. I'm not 147 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 3: sure I can remember a situation like this where it 148 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: does seem Jerry Conna alluded to it today that the 149 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 3: Cowboys thought they had a deal, thought they had an 150 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 3: agreement talking just to the player, only for the player 151 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 3: to leave and talk to his agent and go, yeah, 152 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 3: we don't have anything. It's odd. It does mean that 153 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: you'll sort of start over. I mean, Urn is a 154 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 3: big deal for the Cowboys, no doubt they're gonna want 155 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 3: to do a long term deal, whereas David Mulligata and 156 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: Michah Parson's gonna want to do a shorter term deal 157 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 3: as they've done so I'm not sure anywhere yet, which 158 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: means plenty of time to talk about this all through 159 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: trying to get Untildale gets done right before. 160 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 6: Well, there was a whole lot to unpack from Jerry Jones, 161 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 6: But my biggest takeaway, and Jane alluded to this, is 162 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 6: that Jerry sounds like he is comfortable waiting even if 163 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 6: that means he's going to have to pay more rather 164 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 6: than take the risk of paying a player early and 165 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 6: then maybe making a bad bet on a player and 166 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 6: the player not panning out the way he anticipated, which, again, 167 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 6: as Jane said, is counter to the way that most 168 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 6: teams in the NFL operate now, where you identify your 169 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 6: really good young players and you want to lock them 170 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 6: up as early as you can because the market is 171 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 6: only going up, up and up. But Jerry is Jerry, 172 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 6: and Jerry is going to do things the way he 173 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 6: wants to do and the way he explained it today 174 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 6: sort of explains why he is comfortable waiting until the 175 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 6: last minute to get deals done, right. I mean, we 176 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 6: saw the Dak Prescott last year get done literally hours 177 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 6: before the season kicked off. We saw cde Lamb have 178 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 6: to wait, and now we're watching Michaeh Parsons have to wait. 179 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 6: And it goes to Jerry's mindset that he feels like 180 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 6: maybe he has made bad bets in the past, paying 181 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 6: players who then have not performed up to the level 182 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 6: that he paid the met He is more comfortable waiting, 183 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 6: and he knows that that means he's going to have 184 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 6: to pay more. Certainly that's the case with Michael Parsons. 185 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 6: Really fascinating admission from Jerry Jones. 186 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 7: You know, Jerry Jones mentions that Micah Parsons might not 187 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 7: be available just like Dak Prescott was. And if I'm 188 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 7: Michael Parsons, you know what I say. It's a great point, Jerry. 189 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 7: I don't think I'll be stepping on the field much 190 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 7: over the next couple of weeks in training camp until 191 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 7: this deal is done. 192 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: We could see some form of that. 193 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 8: Sounds like that's one of the considerations, the old hold 194 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 8: in or the new hold in. I should say the 195 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 8: old hold in was the holdout. But you're looking at 196 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 8: this Cowboys pass rushing group. 197 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 7: It's pretty crowded, and how much money do you have 198 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 7: Eventually when this Miket deal gets that's gonna be big money. 199 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 7: They've got three other second round picks that they drafted 200 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 7: at the position, including Donovan Azeraku, the guy they took 201 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 7: this year. I'm looking at Sam Williams coming back from 202 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 7: an injury missed twenty twenty four, a guy who's headed 203 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 7: into a potential offseason as a free agent here and 204 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 7: there has been some rumblings in social media and whatnot 205 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 7: about a potential trade. I don't think the Cowboys are 206 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 7: really interested in that. But this is a guy who 207 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 7: if he hits on the potential that we believe that 208 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 7: he has in this final year and proved that he's healthy, 209 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 7: he can't get paid a ton of money. 210 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 8: So maybe if you're the Cowboys, you're looking at U 211 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 8: s A. It's pretty crowded. 212 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 7: Adding Dante Feller, by the way, who they brought back 213 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 7: as a veteran, it's pretty crowded here. Maybe we do 214 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 7: want to entertain the possibility of getting some value for 215 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 7: him rather than letting him walk in the off season. 216 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 7: Doesn't sound like they're there just yet, but when this 217 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 7: MiCT deal gets done, that. 218 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 8: May force you to have a different conversation there. With 219 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 8: regard to Williams, we shall see. 220 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: Speaking of pass rusher who have not yet gotten their deals, 221 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson also set out mini care up with the 222 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: Bengals as he continues to seek a multi year extension 223 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: in place in the one year and sixteen million dollars 224 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: he has left on his contract like a part of 225 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: supporter without a deal, seems like a long shot that 226 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: Hendrickson is going to do the same, though owner Mike 227 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: Brown struck an optimistic tone about their chances that they 228 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: can come to a compromise. 229 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 9: Well, we're working at it. It came over here and 230 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 9: we have people back in our office who are sharpening 231 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 9: their pencils and trying to figure that out as I 232 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 9: speak here. It has been a long negotiation. Trey Henderson 233 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 9: is a fine player. He's a good guy. We want 234 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 9: him here. Dealing with him is sometimes not so easy. 235 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 9: That's all right. He's got the right to argue his case. 236 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 9: We'll try to make sense of it from our perspective 237 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 9: and we'll see. I'm not persuaded that it isn't going 238 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 9: to get done as far as I'm concerned. The sooner 239 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 9: the better. 240 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: Do you think Trey deserves a raise? 241 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 9: We offered him one, but keep in mind Trey signed 242 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 9: for this season, but foolishly maybe we offered him one 243 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 9: but a rays. But anyway, he deserves a ray. He 244 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 9: did well and he played effectively. 245 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: He's important to us three Anderson maybe under contract, Mike, 246 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: but he's made abundantly clear publicly when he showed up 247 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: during the Bengals practice where to Polo and Khaki's back 248 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: in May. He's not playing on that deal. There's a 249 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: real question about exactly how this plays out. At a 250 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: time the Bengals are trying to say, we think the 251 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: deal gets done, but here we are the night before 252 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: they report and nothing's done yet. 253 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, these it just wasn't in the realm of what 254 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 7: Trey Hendrickson was willing to accept. And then they went 255 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 7: public and said, well, he's got to get comfortable basically 256 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 7: at lower numbers. I'm para praising with Katie Blackburn, who's 257 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 7: trying to negotiate this deal, said back at the league 258 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 7: meeting back there in the spring. But the number has 259 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 7: since this started, the number's only gotten higher, right, The 260 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 7: numbers for the rest of the market has. 261 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 8: Only gotten higher. 262 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 7: They don't have to get to the top of the market, 263 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 7: which is now at forty one million dollars per year. 264 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 8: But he's less than half of that right now where 265 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 8: he is. 266 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 7: And so to say you offered him a raise, that's great, 267 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 7: but it's got to be more of a raise. It 268 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 7: sounded like Trey Hendrickson felt like it was a disrespectful number. 269 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 7: Not just a number they don't agree with, but a 270 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 7: disrespect respectful number early on, and they're trying an engine 271 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 7: and hopefully getting closer. 272 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 3: No, that's exactly right, Mike. I think to hear Mike 273 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 3: Brown talk about how Trey Hendrickson deserves a raise, He's right. 274 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 3: Trey Henderson not going to play for these sixteen million dollars. 275 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: I don't think that. 276 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 3: He's making this year. The Bengals have offered a substantial 277 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 3: raise this year, plus a multi year deal. It's really 278 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 3: not about just the overall dollars that the Bengals have 279 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 3: offered Tair Henderson. If it was just about the base money, 280 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 3: then this would probably be done ready. What he wants, 281 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 3: and this is something I've been reporting with Tom over 282 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 3: the course of the last several weeks, is he wants 283 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 3: guaranteed money into next year and beyond that is what 284 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 3: a lot of the really good pass rusher contracts a featured. 285 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 3: That's what TJ Watt's contract feature. Not saying that Transition's 286 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 3: gonna get the contract that TJ Watt got, but his 287 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 3: deal does have guarantees deep into the deal. That seems 288 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 3: to be where Hendrickson wants. And there's a couple different 289 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 3: ways this could go. They could by the time Judy 290 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 3: he gets to step on the field. They could figure 291 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 3: out a way to get this done in a way 292 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 3: that all sides are happy, or they could simply not 293 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 3: and Henderson could go out play on the sixteen this year, 294 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 3: then be a free agent next year and kind of 295 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 3: end this whole band aid upon band aid upon band 296 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 3: aid situation. Just that's not what either side wants as 297 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 3: of now. 298 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 6: Judy, I was struck by how optimistic Mike Brown sounded. 299 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 6: And I think for an owner to come out and 300 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 6: say all the good things that he said about Trey 301 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 6: Hendrickson and that he deserves a raise, something that Duke 302 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 6: Tobin also said that he deserves a raise. It's hard 303 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 6: for me then to imagine the team not getting something done, 304 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 6: whether it is a band aid that just patches things 305 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 6: until we get to next year, or if they figure 306 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 6: out a longer term deal. But when an owner comes 307 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 6: out and says all of the nice things you say 308 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 6: about Trey Hendrickson, he performed well, he deserves a raise, 309 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 6: we like him, we want him here, I'm not sure 310 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 6: then how the team doesn't cobble something together in time 311 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 6: for the season. 312 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: Tray Henderson at least has been in the state of 313 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: Ohio recently. If they work something out. He could be 314 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: at training camp pretty quickly. Here, Jamar Stewart, their first 315 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: round draft pick, is still working out down in Texas, 316 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: and Mike Brown did not sound as optimistic or at 317 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: least as positive about the state of talks on the 318 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: number seventeen pick. 319 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 9: So we're sitting here argue, you know, there's something that 320 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 9: I think is pretty remote, And I asked myself sometimes 321 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 9: why the hell we're doing it? But we are, and 322 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 9: he's doing it too, and at some point we got 323 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 9: to put this stuff behind and just get him signed 324 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 9: and get him up here and get him so he 325 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 9: can be a contributor. He needs to get under way soon. 326 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 9: It doesn't help him or us to have this strung out. 327 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: So let's address how these rookie contracts work really briefly, 328 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: hearing and the dollars are slotted, the years are slotted, 329 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: the guarantees functionally are slotted as well. This is about 330 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: language that the Bengals are trying to insert for the 331 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: first time into contract. Is similar to language that many 332 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: other teams have in place. But Shamar Stewart to this 333 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: point has not caved and saying I'm not going to 334 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: take different language than what the guy had a year 335 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: ago related to defaults. If there's some type of an 336 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: issue and he misses time, the Bengals are still not 337 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: moving either. And here we are now the day before 338 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: training camp. Shamar Stewart still has not stepped on the field, 339 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: and we'll see if that changes here in the next 340 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: twenty four to forty eight hours. 341 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 3: Mike Brown said it very well. It is to the 342 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 3: point of foolishness because this is not Trey Hendrickson's situation, right, 343 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 3: this is not the Bengals won't pay Shamar Stewart what 344 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 3: he deserves. They're trying to pay him right. There is 345 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 3: a base deal, there's a signing bonus. It's allocated in 346 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,239 Speaker 3: a way similar to the other players around him. This 347 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 3: is simply about them trying to insert three little words 348 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 3: at any time. Are the little words in reference to 349 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 3: if something happens and he defaults, does he lose his guarantees? 350 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 3: That's really what this over is over many many other teams. 351 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 3: As you mentioned, Tom use the language. The Bengals are 352 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 3: trying to do it now evolving in the words of 353 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 3: Duke Tobin for the first time, it is ridiculous. I 354 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 3: do hope that cooler heads prevail and they figure out 355 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 3: some way to get this done. It's just rare to 356 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: see this kind of a strong dug in disagreement over 357 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 3: so little. But you would hope that at some point 358 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: this thing does happen. 359 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,959 Speaker 6: Well, Mike Brown, all of the good how he sounded 360 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 6: about Trey Hendrickson. He sounded so exasperated about this situation 361 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 6: on this contract, to the point where he even said, 362 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 6: there at the very end, you know, at some point 363 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 6: this needs to get resolved, right, you know we're doing it, 364 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 6: They're doing it. At some point this needs to get resolved. 365 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 6: Which makes me wonder if at some point Mike Brown 366 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 6: is going to go to his people and say, like, 367 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 6: come to a meeting of the mind somewhere in the 368 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 6: middle and get this done. 369 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: But enough, And the other thing is this is not 370 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: necessarily a binary outcome. One side caves or the other. 371 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: At times in the negotiation you were given something to 372 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: get something. So is there a way that they could 373 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: change around the bonus payout structure or something else to 374 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: actually bring this thing home. We're going to find out. Otherwise, 375 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: Tamar Stewart, as he was throughout the Spring, will continue 376 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: to be standing on the sideline. We had some other 377 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: news being a pass rusher over the past twenty four hours, 378 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: but first let's talk about Will Levis underwent surgery on 379 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: his throwing shoulder, will miss the entire twenty twenty five season, 380 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: according to our ian Rappaport, who reported that first, the 381 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: Titans have since confirmed Levis had issues with an ac 382 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: joint last year. It's something that he continued to deal 383 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: with throughout the course of the spring. Now undergoing surgery, 384 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: that effectively means the cam Ward now will be in 385 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: fact Tennessee's starting quarterback. Also quarterback news in New Orleans, 386 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: Tyler Shuck officially signing his rookie contract fully guaranteed, the 387 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: fortieth overall pick in the draft and the last member 388 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: of this year's draft lass to get a fully guaranteed contract, 389 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: White possibly going to end up being now QB one 390 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: in New Orleans come this fall. Competition still pending. A 391 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: lot more to come here on the Insiders, including a 392 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 1: look at the Chargers. Jar Omaruiz has been around that team. 393 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: What do they do a wider even now that Mike 394 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 1: Williams walked away? Hopefully the oldmar has got some answers. 395 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: Right after this on the inside. 396 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 3: This football is back. Celebrated teams across the league take 397 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 3: the field for Back Together Weekend, presented by YouTube TV 398 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 3: with two full days of practices, player interviews, and behind 399 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 3: the scenes access. It's a can't miss NFL reunion. Go 400 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 3: to NFL dot com slash Back Together Weekend for more information. 401 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 3: You know who is already back This guy right here, 402 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 3: Justin Herbert, the Chargers starting quarterback. I once you wait 403 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 3: forty minutes for Justin Herbert to interview him during training 404 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 3: camp because he loves signing for the fans. That's not 405 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 3: a joke, It's actually true. He loves interacting with the fans. 406 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 3: You will see it over and over here. He is 407 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 3: right here doing it. One guy. He will not be 408 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 3: interacting with Mike Williams, who now has retired. Quentin Johnson 409 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 3: takes us into it. 410 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 10: This is you know, decision, you know, the past three 411 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 10: years and just me knowing him and me coming in 412 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 10: and kind of just being mentored by him. You know, 413 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 10: it means a lot, you know, you know, you know, 414 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 10: just knowing him as a person on and off the field. 415 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 10: So you know, you know, I'm happy for him, you know, 416 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 10: happy with his you know, decision and you know, you know, 417 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 10: I wish him abyss so. 418 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 3: Welcome in our good friend Omar Ruiz joining me in 419 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 3: rapport and Juda Batista here on the insiders. Omar, So 420 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 3: let's get into this topic a little bit. Mike Williams 421 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 3: steps away from the chargers right before training camp. What 422 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 3: impact is that going to happen? 423 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 11: Well, it's plenty of opportunity for the receivers obviously still 424 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 11: on the roster, and they have a superstar in the 425 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 11: making that they believe is ready to take another step 426 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 11: in Ladd McConkie. I asked offensive coordinator Greg Roman the 427 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 11: other day if there is another tier that McConkie could 428 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 11: get to, and he said, yeah, absolutely. He gave an 429 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 11: anecdote from the early days of training camp. He saw 430 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 11: mconki in a dark wide receiver room by himself, focused 431 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 11: on his iPad, just watching tape over and over again 432 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 11: until he finally got the concept that they were learning 433 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 11: about in the early installation. In those days in training camp, 434 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 11: Roman telling me it's those kind of minute details that 435 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 11: mconkee is focused on that leads him to believe he's 436 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 11: able to accelerate and find another gear. Remember, McConkie the 437 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 11: last time we saw him in the playoffs, set the 438 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 11: rookie receiving record for most receiving yards ever in a 439 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 11: postseason game. He was a top ten receiver in receiving 440 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 11: yards last year. On the field, his receiver coach Sanjay 441 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 11: Law said he showed him a lot of tape of 442 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 11: Julian Edelman and Tyler Lockett, obviously the former great for 443 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 11: the New England Patriots, former Super Bowl MVP, and also 444 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 11: Tyler Lockett, now the Tennessee Titans, formerly played for Law 445 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 11: in Seattle. He showed him the tape of Julian Edelman 446 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 11: because Edelman was famous for being able to split a 447 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 11: couple defenders and dive forward for a couple two three 448 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,239 Speaker 11: extra yards at the end of place. Tyler Lockett had 449 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 11: the innate ability to know when a big hit was 450 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 11: coming and get down for mconkie to know how to 451 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 11: protect himself. So those are the things they're looking for 452 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 11: for him to improve on the field. Then you also 453 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 11: have Quentin Johnson, who he just heard from quadrupled his 454 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 11: touchdown output from his rookie season, going from two to 455 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 11: eight last year. He comes into training camp with all 456 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 11: kinds of confidence and then the second round pick Trey Harris, 457 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 11: who they believe can be in all everything type of receiver. 458 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 11: They're going to start them out on the outside learning 459 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 11: the Z position. As Roman said, you got to start somewhere. 460 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 11: So a lot of confidence in the players that they 461 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 11: have a lot of opportunity for this young receiving core 462 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 11: that they hope is a lot better. 463 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: In the twenty twenty five season. 464 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 6: And of course we heard the fans the other day 465 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 6: chanting for Keenan Allen to be brought back to the 466 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 6: Chargers end. We also know that Harbaugh wants to run 467 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 6: the ball a whole lot more too, to take some 468 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 6: of the pressure off Justin Herbert. All Right, Omar, Speaking 469 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 6: of Justin Herbert, Harbaugh said that his biggest weakness is 470 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 6: basically everybody around him. 471 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 11: What do you make of that comment, Well, it's interesting 472 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 11: and that he wants everybody to elevate their games to 473 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 11: Justin Herbert, and that includes the offensive line. 474 00:23:59,119 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 1: It's the tight end. 475 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 11: And what's interesting we just talked about the receivers, it 476 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 11: was the tight ends who had the two longest pass 477 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 11: plays of the practice that I was at on Saturday. 478 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 11: But as far as the offensive line, goes. Rashaun Slater 479 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 11: missed practice on Saturday. They described it as a rest day. 480 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 11: He was back today as expected, working off to the side. 481 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 11: Nobody there is calling it a hold in, but they 482 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 11: do express optimism both sides along this whole process for 483 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 11: Slater and a blockbuster contract upcoming as he enters the 484 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 11: final year of his rookie contract. But this is an 485 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 11: offensive line that's looking to come together. Obviously, Makai Becton. 486 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 11: They signed over from the World champs in the Philadelphia Eagles, 487 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 11: and they essentially have switched positions with Zion Johnson and 488 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 11: Bradley Boseman. Boseman going to left guard, Zion Johnson coming 489 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 11: into center. They have to figure that out. And oh, 490 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 11: by the way, last year's number five overall pick, Joe 491 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 11: Alt told me on Saturday that he feels as comfortable 492 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 11: as ever. He doesn't like to use that word comfortable. 493 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 11: He said he wants to keep his edge. The pace 494 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 11: of the game has slowed down, but he wants to 495 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 11: maintain that edge as that of desive line looks to 496 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 11: make dramatic improvements. But as you mentioned, Judy, they're going 497 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 11: to ground the football with Omarion Hampton and Agie Harris 498 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 11: and the rest of that crew. They have a potentially 499 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 11: explosive pass game, and of course the offensive line comes together. 500 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: A lot to be optimistic about is. 501 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 11: The Chargers heading into their fifth training camp practice already 502 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 11: tomorrow down in San Diego. They'll make their return to 503 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 11: their former home practicing on Tuesday and Wednesday down there. 504 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 3: A lot of the good stuff, Omar, thank you as always. 505 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 3: Chargers for sure do have a lot to look forward to. 506 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 3: They also did a little bit looking back today as 507 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 3: Philip Rivers Dak Gummett retired a member of the Chargers, 508 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 3: one of our favorites, one of the best miked up 509 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 3: athletes of all time, made it official in a pretty 510 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 3: cool video, saying that he is now a Charger for life. 511 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: The Cowboys have reported to training camp. They went through 512 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: the entire offseason without Trayvon Diggs in the building because 513 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: he was back in floor rehabbing from a significant knee injury. 514 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: There did not say well with the Cowboys, who enforced 515 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: a de escalator contract in Diggs contract. Jerry Jones had 516 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: some more to say on the subject. 517 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: We expect a player paid like Trevon to be here 518 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 2: all the time. We expect him to be leading. Expect 519 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 2: him to be leading. It's important to have the right 520 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 2: body language in every respect. When you are one of 521 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 2: those rare, financially paid and gifted players, you've got to 522 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 2: have some leadership about you. 523 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,959 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Insiders, Tom Pella Sero, joined once 524 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: again by our Jane Slater, who is at Cowboys training 525 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: camp in Oxnard, California. We've heard this, Jane, the leadership, 526 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: the culture buzzwords throughout the off season from Brian Schottenneimer, 527 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: among others, and clearly Jerry's trying to make a point 528 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: here about the importance of those high paid guys being 529 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: a part of that culture. What did you make of 530 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: what he said? 531 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 5: Look, I know some people might roll their eyes at this, 532 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 5: but I will tell you, and talking to some of 533 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 5: the players the leadership and I even talked about just 534 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 5: the culture and the locker room was really off last 535 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 5: year and they were looking for some of their leaders 536 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 5: that they pay the big money to step up. 537 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 4: And I'm old enough. 538 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 5: To remember when that Trayvon Diggs extension happened. It was 539 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 5: two years ago here at training camp, a five year 540 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 5: one worth ninety seven million dollars. If you'll recall in 541 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 5: that same year back in twenty twenty three, three weeks 542 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 5: into the season he entered his knee, so he missed 543 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 5: eleven games that year or he missed thirteen games rather 544 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 5: that year, and then last year he made eleven games 545 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 5: for entering the same knee again. Now seeing here, he's 546 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 5: opted for South Florida and training with doctor Sharif Toba. 547 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 5: Taba has been telling me that they've begun working on 548 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 5: some of the position group drills and things that he needs. 549 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 5: But new defensive coordinator Matt eber flies Plisi has two 550 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 5: of the best corners in the league in Derad Blandon Diggs, 551 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 5: who have come buying for thirty one interception since twenty 552 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 5: twenty one. Last season, the team as a whole had 553 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 5: the six fewis Iberflus wants this defense predicated on takeaways 554 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 5: when healthy. He has the personnel to do that, but 555 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 5: availability and accountability are paramount and Jerry Jones, Steven and 556 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 5: the coaches are making it very clear with that half 557 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 5: a million dollar fine and some of the comments they 558 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 5: made today that they have high expectations for players that 559 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 5: are making what they would describe as Tier one money. 560 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 4: Now, could the Cowboys trade him. 561 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 5: I know that people are now talking about that, like 562 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 5: how acrimonious has this gotten? 563 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 4: Because this is the second off. 564 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 5: Season that Trayvon Digg spent the majority of his time 565 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 5: working out away from the facility. Now, according to overthecap 566 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 5: dot com, they could save nine point six million dollars 567 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 5: if they made that trade. 568 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 4: Now here's the issue, guys. 569 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 5: Remember I just said it was a five year, ninety 570 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 5: seven million dollar contract extension. 571 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 4: That means he's got four years left. 572 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 5: That means another team would have to pick up that contract. Well, 573 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 5: is their concerns there? This is now two injuries to 574 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 5: the same knee. Although I guess you could make the 575 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 5: others argument that he's twenty six years old. This is 576 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 5: a guy who's got a lot of talent, who's proven 577 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 5: that he can get the takeaways. Being that former wide 578 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 5: receiver at Alabama, maybe there's some big upside here. 579 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 4: I think they're going to look to see how this 580 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 4: thing plays out. 581 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 5: I think this team can be really, really good, and 582 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 5: Digs could be really good in this system. But I 583 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 5: think they're making it very very clear that things have 584 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 5: got a change if Diggs wants to remain on this roster. 585 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: Trevon Diggs do nine million dollars in base salary this season, 586 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: which if he can be close to his former self, 587 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: that is a bargain for the Cowboys in twenty twenty five. 588 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: Jane Slater our first training camp on Cedarport. Jay, can 589 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: you actually just take like five steps backwards so I 590 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: can see you in the sun to prove this is 591 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: not a green screen. I want everybody at home to 592 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: know you're really out there, You're really on the field. 593 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 8: Look at that. 594 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 4: We're there. 595 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: We are going to be all over the place. Back 596 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: together weekend this weekend, around the clock inside training camp 597 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: starts on Monday. Cannot wait, Jane, Thank you very much. 598 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: As always, a ton other news around the NFL, including 599 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: in the Troit Worthy Lyons. Also back at it on 600 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: the field. They're playing in the Hall of Fame game, 601 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: hence the early start. David Montgomery pictured here. What the 602 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: guy everyone's talking about is a fantasy stud. Jamiir Gibbs 603 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: said recently he's the forgotten man in the offense after 604 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: that knee injury last season. But not so, says Dan Campbell. 605 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 12: Believe me, he has not forgotten. He's We know exactly 606 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 12: who he is. Where he is and what he's capable of, 607 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,239 Speaker 12: and the one two punch with he and Gibbs is uh, 608 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 12: it's special and it's rare in this league in my opinion, 609 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:35,239 Speaker 12: especially nowadays. So there's a place for David. He's going 610 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 12: to help us, and we're going to use him, and 611 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 12: we'll use he and Gibbs together. You know, we'll do 612 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 12: some of those things. So we know he's one of 613 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 12: our best offensive players. That's not changing right now. 614 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: Season approaching regulars, he's approaching contract season still upon us. 615 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: George karlofftis the latest two get paid a four year, 616 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: ninety three million dollar contracts mentioned with Kansas City, the 617 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: former first round draft picked cash in on a deal 618 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: he guarantees them sixty two million dollars, and they'll need 619 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: more highlights like this if they're going to meet the 620 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: high expectations that always exist in Kansas City. 621 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 13: Expectations are always are always high, and that that's a 622 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 13: that's a plus, and the guys that have been here 623 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 13: have earned that right to have it that way. But 624 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 13: at the same time, you know you've got to maintain 625 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 13: that and even strive to be better. I mean, the 626 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 13: AFC West is a tough conference, and it's not any worse, 627 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 13: that's for sure. I mean these guys, that's good coaching 628 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 13: and they've got good players. So just that alone is 629 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 13: a great challenge for us. 630 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: AFC. West is tough, says the guy who wins it 631 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: every year. Let's go, welcome to the job. 632 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 14: Ow boy, it's Jamar chains down. 633 00:31:58,960 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: We'll breaking the towards down. 634 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 3: I'm putting in the circles Rount. 635 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: And we can fall down. Oo Jamar. 636 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 3: It's just a big play way to happen. 637 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 7: Two bomb how chases on the cases. Number one was 638 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 7: number one when it came to fantasy production by a 639 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 7: wide receiver in twenty twenty four, now number one amongst 640 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 7: wide receivers paid for real production on the field period. 641 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 8: But you see the value that he brings to fantasy. 642 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 7: Owners as well as those Bengals owners that were willing 643 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 7: to pay him. That money in comes Adam Rank now 644 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 7: because he knows everything when it comes to ranking wide receivers. 645 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 7: In fact, last year we were talking about Jamar Chase's 646 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 7: potential w R when we talk about CD Lamb potentially 647 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 7: as a first round pick. Had we known Dak Prescott 648 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 7: was going to go down, we would have said, now 649 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 7: you can wait a little bit later because you saw 650 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 7: what that did to his production. So entering twenty twenty five, 651 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 7: with all these guys quarterbacks healthy rank, how are you ranking. 652 00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 8: Some of these top receivers? 653 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: No, unintended. 654 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 14: Now it's funny because one of my least favorite things 655 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 14: in fantasy when the guy's like, hey, take your pick, 656 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 14: it doesn't matter, But we have to make choices, Mike, 657 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 14: where we're sitting there on the line, we got to 658 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 14: figure out what we're doing. I'm gonna go with Jamar 659 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 14: Chase as the first wide receiver off the board. I 660 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 14: know it's super chalky. Last year he was the number 661 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 14: two overall scorer in all of fantasy football. That includes 662 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 14: that includes the uh that includes the quarterback position as well. 663 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 14: So for me, I think Jamar Chase is pretty much 664 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 14: the easiest pick here right now. Obviously, when you look 665 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 14: at it, people might fear regression or anything like that, 666 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 14: but I look at it by the sense of how 667 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 14: good do the Bengals get on defense? Not very so 668 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 14: there's still gonna be in a situation where they have 669 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 14: to score a ton of points. 670 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 3: My number two. 671 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 14: Guy is going to be Justin Jefferson Justin Jefferson last 672 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 14: season was the wide receiver too. Sam Darnold had a 673 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 14: season for the Ages, and people are like, well, what 674 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 14: about JJ McCarthy, what about him? We've seen the floor 675 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 14: for these quarterbacks in any KOC offense, it's a being 676 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 14: very high. So I love the opportunity to go out 677 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 14: there and get Justin Jefferson and it's. 678 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: A little quick tip. 679 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 14: I love JJ McCarthy and fantasy football as well, So 680 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 14: he's my number two and then I'm gonna go back 681 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 14: to Ceedee Lamb. I know a lot of people were 682 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 14: disappointed last year. You mentioned it when Dak Prescott went down. 683 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 14: That kind of hurt everybody or hurt his production. So 684 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 14: for me, I'm not too worried about it, and I'm 685 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 14: not worried about George Pickens being there either, because George 686 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 14: Pickens picking the top off the defense should actually help 687 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 14: him out. So I will go back to Ceedee Lamb. 688 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 14: He's my number three wide receiver. Off the board, I 689 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 14: am not afraid of that at all. 690 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 7: CD tried to do all he could with those backup 691 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 7: options that they threw out there after Dak Prescott went down, 692 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 7: but it obviously changed the position and it changed the 693 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 7: production for him. If Dak Prescott stays healthy, I'm with you, 694 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 7: Adam Ray, throw Ceedee Lamb back up there. Now you 695 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 7: talk about what a receiver on the other side can 696 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 7: do for a guy on the other side, Let's talk 697 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 7: about Pooka Nakua because incomes Adams. Now Cooper Cup's out, 698 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 7: but DeVante Adams is in. What does that do for 699 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 7: Poka in that offense? 700 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 14: You know, I actually think it makes him better. I 701 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 14: think that any time that we've seen Sean McVay over 702 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 14: the years, his offense always has the ability to support 703 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 14: two really good wide receivers, especially in fantasy one always 704 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 14: seems to outshine the other. We remember, during the time 705 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 14: that Cooper Cup was going out there and dominating fantasy 706 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 14: football leagues, there was still a pretty good wide receiver too, 707 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 14: whether it was Bobby Trees or somebody of that nature. Similarly, 708 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 14: I think that Devonte Adams comes in here, keeps the 709 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,439 Speaker 14: defenses honest and allows Pooka Akua to go out there 710 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 14: and do his thing. So again, when we're going through 711 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 14: the rankings right now, I look at pu Puka Akua 712 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 14: as my number four option because I trust this Rams 713 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 14: offense I trust the quarterback, and I really do believe 714 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 14: that he's going to step up this season. 715 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 7: You talk about those receivers that you just mentioned up 716 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 7: there in the cluster, but give me the guy who's 717 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 7: on the outside of that crew, but could vault himself, 718 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 7: maybe even to the top of the guy. You're like, 719 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 7: if all falls right, this guy could get even to 720 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 7: wide receiver number one. 721 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 14: Well, I think that when we looked at the top 722 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 14: ten board from last season, people might have been surprised 723 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 14: that Brian Thomas Junior was the number four overall wide receiver. 724 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 14: I will point out though, for those of you who 725 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 14: live in the world where you rank these on points 726 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 14: per game, he was the wide receiver eleven, right around 727 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 14: seventeen fantasy points per game. I really believe that he 728 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 14: has an opportunity to step up this season and be 729 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 14: even better. 730 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 8: Now. 731 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 14: They went out and they drafted Travis Hunter, which is 732 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 14: a great addition to that team. He should be a 733 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 14: guy who can take the top off a defense, somebody 734 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 14: who can expose some of those safeties deep. But it's 735 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 14: still going to allow Brian Thomas Junior to go out. 736 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 3: There and do the work. 737 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 14: And when you bring in an offensive mind like Liam 738 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 14: Cohen to lead this team. And I know, like it 739 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 14: seems weird because Doug Peterson was supposed to be this guy. 740 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 14: But I really do believe that Liam Cohen's going to 741 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 14: help Brian Thomas Junior take that next step. And I 742 00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 14: wouldn't be shocked if Brian Thomas Junior ends up the 743 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 14: wide receiver won this season. 744 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 7: Well, Travis Hunter is there, and you talked about it earlier, 745 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 7: what a receiver on one side could do for a 746 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 7: guy on the other side, kind of like what the 747 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 7: insiders can do for Fantasy Live. You see it there 748 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,720 Speaker 7: on the body of the screen weekdays at six pm Eastern. 749 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 7: We are three weeks away from the return of Fantasy 750 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 7: Live at six pm. Adam Rank and his buddy's gonna 751 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 7: be back to give you that fantasy information every single day. 752 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 8: Thank you very much, Adam Rank. 753 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 7: Appreciate you always and all your thoughts on fantasy football. 754 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 8: Calvin Ridley probably out there like, yo, what about me? 755 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: What about me? Rank? You're not looking at my quarterback? 756 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,439 Speaker 8: I mean, let's to a lot of folks are saying 757 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 8: to Tennessee, not giving this guy enough credit. 758 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 7: Well, we're about to see because no will Levis means 759 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 7: cam Ward gonna be the starter for the Titans this 760 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 7: upcoming season. 761 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 8: We pretty much expected it anyway. 762 00:37:45,440 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 7: We got to talk more about it when he Insanders returns. 763 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: From QB one so QB two to QB twenty twenty six. 764 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: Will Lovis officially out for this season after opting to 765 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: undergo shoulder surgery. Welcome back to the Insiders, Tom Pillasaroi 766 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 1: and Rapport and Judy Batista Ian take me through exactly 767 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: what led to this decision by Will Levis. Now, what 768 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: it means knowing that you know you got that other 769 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 1: guy went number one in the building right. 770 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 3: What it means is pretty simple. Cam Morden is going 771 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 3: to be the starting quarterback, as he was going to 772 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 3: be the starting quarterback anyway. This is more about Will Levis, 773 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 3: his backup quarterback, and his decision after consulting with from 774 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 3: Mine I, unerstand Is, several medical professionals. Will Levis suffered 775 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,919 Speaker 3: a shoulder injury last season. Remember, landed really hard along 776 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 3: the sideline on his right shoulder. He did rehab, he 777 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 3: did get it better, he did fully participate in spring practice, 778 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 3: but sounds like it just never felt quite right. Judy 779 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 3: and the fact that he couldn't get it to where 780 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 3: he was throwing pain free. Led to this decision where 781 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 3: he is now going to have surgery at the end 782 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,240 Speaker 3: of July. He is out for twenty twenty five, twenty 783 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 3: twenty sixty, like it would be at full strength. Just 784 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 3: hard to imagine being with the Titans at that point. 785 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 3: Plenty of that as it comes, but a fascinating decision 786 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 3: by will Levis to leave cam Ward all alone, which 787 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 3: kind of a weird thing, Judy. 788 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,280 Speaker 6: Well, let's be clear, this was never a quarterback competition 789 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 6: in Tennessee. Cam Ward was always going to be the 790 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 6: starting quarterback. But what this does is it leaves them 791 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 6: without a safety net. I mean, that is what will 792 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 6: Lefis was going to be. If cam Ward's got hurt, 793 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 6: you at least had somebody who could go in there 794 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 6: and function in the offense and potentially give you a 795 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 6: chance to win a game. The two backups they have 796 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 6: on the roster now, Brandon Allen and Tim Boyle, have 797 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 6: started games over their careers, not very successfully. They are 798 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 6: new there, so presumably the Titans are going to have 799 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 6: to go out and get a veteran quarterback who has 800 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 6: a whole lot more starting experience to be in that 801 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 6: quarterback room behind cam Ward who is certainly the future 802 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 6: and he is the guy right now. But again, if 803 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 6: he gets hurt, what would they turn to? And also, frankly, 804 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 6: you'd like to have a veteran guy who can push 805 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 6: the rookie a little bit, not to take his job, 806 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 6: not even to challenge for his job, but just to 807 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 6: sort of push him to accelerate his growth. They need 808 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 6: to get that in the building. A very tough break 809 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 6: for will Levis obviously, and we will see how it 810 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 6: impacts cam warden the Titans this season. 811 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,919 Speaker 1: A more incoming slow Mode videos across the NFL, because, 812 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: as we know, the twenty twenty five NFL season begins 813 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: with training camp starting Saturday, July twenty six through Wednesday, 814 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: August sixth. NFL Network is you're home for wall to 815 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: wall coverage from every camp across the league. We're live 816 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 1: on the field, bringing you exclusive interviews, expert analysis, breaking storylines, 817 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 1: and your first look at the biggest names in new places, 818 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: new today. Business still getting done on the eve of 819 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: training camp, that includes in Green Bay, where they have 820 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: re signed their tackle Zach Tom to a four year, 821 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,839 Speaker 1: eighty eight million dollar contract extension max is out at 822 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 1: ninety two million. Sources tell the Insiders Green Bay one 823 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 1: of the teams that's back on the field on Tuesday. 824 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: The Steelers report on Wednesday and begin the countdown to 825 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:28,919 Speaker 1: wear in these gorgeous nineteen thirty three throwback uniforms. It's 826 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: like Bumblebean Junior. I love it. It's got ten pants. 827 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Insiders. Tom PELLISEROI and rapport, Judy Batista, 828 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,879 Speaker 1: Mike garral Follo Ian or you in or out on 829 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 1: this version of the tan pants. 830 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,359 Speaker 3: Well, let's see. If I was gonna say something and 831 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 3: it maybe wasn't nice, I think maybe the best thing 832 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 3: to do is, Mike, what do you think? 833 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 10: No? 834 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 8: I dig them. I think they're better. 835 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 7: I mean this is this goes back to Tom dying 836 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 7: on a hill for the Giants uniforms in Week one 837 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 7: last year, which were not great. 838 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 8: I dig these a lot better. 839 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 6: I like them better than the other bumblebee ones. I 840 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 6: think these are fear of them as great. 841 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 1: Call the best news we can stop tying about uniforms. 842 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: Twenty six more teams reports a training camp tomorrow. You're 843 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: gonna hear from the head coaches, are players from the quarterbacks. 844 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: We will have all of it, the analysis like you 845 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: get no place else. Football is this close. Folks, will 846 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 1: see you tomorrow at Semaban Eastern time. Thank you as 847 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: always for being here with the insiders. See it.