WEBVTT - Reflecting with Dijon Talton 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:04.440 And That's what You Really missed with Jenna. 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:07.080 And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:11.680 Welcome to You and That's what You Really miss podcast. 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:14.800 Matt Rutherford is here. 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:17.680 Kevin Dejeon Talton himself is here. 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:25.600 Jehan Taltan, the sweetest, the sweetest, accomplished, kind, talented human. 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:28.400 He was on the show with us in the very 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:31.720 beginning after the pilot. He was a part of the 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:37.880 original twelve. Still so so great and just comes and 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:39.559 you're gonna want to hear this. 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:40.960 He's so wise, you know. 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:43.520 He talks about his own experience on the show and 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:45.360 what it was like leaving the show and. 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:47.360 All the wonderful things he's doing now. 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:50.680 Hi, Jean, thank you so much for coming on here, 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:53.040 like you're one of our very last guests, because you're 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:56.680 one of the most requested. Oh, because we couldn't close. 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:58.040 We got to hear we got to hear. 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:01.440 From Yeah, I appreciate that guy. Thank you for having. 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:04.440 You're just such a part of like the formation of 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:08.320 and the creation of the chemistry of the group of 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:11.800 you know, new directions, and it wouldn't feel right to 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:13.679 close this out without having you on. 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:15.200 So we're so grateful your share. 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:16.160 I appreciate it. 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:19.080 How how are you. 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:19.840 You been well? 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:22.840 I can't complain. It feels like a lifetime will go honestly. 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:25.399 Right, yeah, but I'm blessed. 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:25.959 I can't complain. 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:26.280 How are we. 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:28.839 Right? 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:32.920 That's right? We only got to go to true Yeah, 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:35.200 yes we do, yes, we do. 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:38.920 Well, We're so happy to have you here. I think 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:41.800 that we got to tell the people, like how did. 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:44.039 Glee come into your life? 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:46.600 Can you just share if like you knew about the 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:49.560 show before, and like how you got how did you 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:50.200 get the gig? 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:51.960 How did how did we get you? 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:52.960 So? 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:55.920 I was I was I was eighty, I was nineteen, 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:56.800 I was in college. 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:00.240 I was going to college for entertainment law, and I 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:01.920 was working at the Apple Store. 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:04.320 I started acting and dancing when I was a kid, 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:06.560 so I had been in it. Took a break when 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:08.640 I was like in high school, got back in college. 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:10.720 I was like, if I go to school in California, 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:13.320 I can act a get not the audition It was 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:15.200 like the next day, but I had this gig at 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:15.840 the Apple Store. 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:18.880 Yeah, I'm like one to that audition. They were like no, no, no, 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:20.120 it's a really cool show. 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:23.679 Uh, you guys have already filmed the pilot, so that 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:26.160 the trailer was out for the pilot. 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:29.880 I went in and watched and my favorite movie was 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:33.440 Sister Rack Too. Growing up. That's where I got into entertainments. 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:36.080 I was like, why is this really remind me of st. 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:39.480 That's the biggest compliment anyone could give the show. 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:42.280 Yeah, that's what I was watching. I'm gonna go. 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:46.240 I'm gonna go, so I what's the audition? The next 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:49.200 day was with Zach and then the next day then 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:51.280 they called me back and like he come tomorrow, and 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:57.640 the uh aster came in there read saying danced again 0:02:57.720 --> 0:02:59.160 and that I didn't hear anything for like a week, 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:01.600 and then they called. 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:02.960 And they were like I was walking into a test 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:04.120 late and they were like, you got it. 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:09.400 And then we started filming like a couple of days later. 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.600 And it's funny when I got there, think it with 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.040 brag or even one of them was like, welcome to 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:15.440 the show. 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:17.920 I was like, and I was like, and I was like, 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:20.240 in my mind, they were like, you know they did. 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:22.240 They didn't know exactly what it was gonna be, but 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:22.880 I guess. 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:24.720 The writers knew what it was going to be. When 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:28.600 Harry and I walked off. We were like, oh, happy 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:30.040 to have any but we were kind of like. 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:36.960 You Toobe because did you guys think it was just 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:38.120 like one episode? You didn't. 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:40.920 Yeah, it's like one or two. But then the writers knew. 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:42.840 They were like oh, and I. 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:46.400 Was like, we need you. I remember the first day 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:50.040 you guys walked on, like the first day we filmed together. Yeah, 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:51.880 it was the first time because we had all been 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.760 we had known each other for almost a year by 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:59.040 this point. Yeah, and that's right, Like having new people 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:02.640 on felt so strange, like how is this going to work? 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:05.200 But obviously you and Harry are like the nicest people 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:08.880 on the planet. Do you remember like that first day 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:12.920 on set all of us together or any time? 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:15.600 I do? I do remember it. 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:19.760 I haven't thought about it, but yeah, very vividly, I think, 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:22.039 because I didn't know exactly what it was, right, So 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:25.440 I had practice with none of you guys, just Marked 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:28.480 and Corey because we actually gave practice the football stuff. 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:32.120 Those people and then the other actors in the in 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:34.760 the extras were there, but I hadn't met eve you guys, 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:35.920 but all of you were so nice. 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:37.400 You kept coming up and being like nice to meet you. 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:39.520 Nice to meet. You like, nice to meet. It's the 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:43.440 nicest casts. One by one they come up and speak. 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:46.800 We weren't jaded yet. 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:48.279 Yeah, exactly. 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:50.240 Yeah. 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.920 At the end of the day, I understood, Oh got it, 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:55.760 it's a glee club because I think we filmed that 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:58.920 last round dates or something when they like welcomed us 0:04:58.960 --> 0:04:59.800 into the glee and I. 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:03.960 Was like, right, all right, better than the Apple Store 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:05.839 gig for a little bit, you know. Do you know? 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.400 I did not stop going to school or the Apple 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:11.839 Store gig until like six months of filming because I 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:12.160 was so. 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:14.560 I was so I was eating by the trailer. 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:16.800 And I had got to incomplete all my classes. Every 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:18.920 time I was taking the test in my trail left, 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:19.760 I would they. 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:21.680 Would call us, oh wow. 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.960 So I was braining with the world. I was like, 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:27.040 I'm not losing this diamond hold on. It is gonna last. 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:28.560 Yeah, yeah. 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:30.120 Yeah. 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:33.400 A lot of people don't probably have that foresight when 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:35.200 they get into acting. But you knew, You're like, this 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:36.200 could go away tomorrow. 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:39.440 Tomorrow, right, I gonna need an education in. 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:42.479 A job because we're like, oh, this pilot probably won't 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:45.440 get picked up. Most don't. We didn't know. 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:48.080 Yeah, being a child actor too. 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:52.120 Your time, like anyway, yes, yeah, yeah, absolutely, let me 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:56.520 see it on paper literally right Obviously in the script 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.080 and the scenes, you're like, oh, welcome to the Glee Club. 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:00.159 You're like, wow, I'm. 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:01.159 A part of the show now. 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:04.880 And we started doing like Dan you know, like Somebody 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:05.279 to Love. 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:06.960 I remember doing that one, and that. 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:10.160 Was like the complete twelve of us, right twelve that 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:11.320 really felt. 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:12.719 Like we were a unit. 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:17.000 What was it like, like jumping into the musical numbers 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:19.279 and all of that, Like was that something that was 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:22.039 in your wheelhouse or did it feel different? 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:22.920 For sure? 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:25.480 Because I started with Debbie Allen's dance A Have Me 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:28.159 when I was like three, and then it doesn't play 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:31.000 and I had been on tour like Rebok and I 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:34.600 did like Disney singleongs growing up, so it was very 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:39.560 much in that vein. Yeah, I don't think I knew 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:40.679 how much the show. 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:47.880 Required at first, you know, like it became very all encompassing. 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:49.920 It was I thought it was going to. 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:53.479 But also like a gift again because I felt like 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:55.240 it was full circle to kind of like got me 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:58.520 into entertainment, which was a choir of you know, kids 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.600 inner city. And then I also didn't know what glee 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:03.520 clubs were before the show. 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:04.240 I didn't know they. 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:08.039 So then I started learning, like, oh, this is the 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:10.760 real I thought the show made it up. I thought 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:14.000 so Blee was like, oh, okay, You'm make glee club cool. 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:16.320 And then I realized it was like a real big 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:16.680 in the world. 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:21.120 So I was like, Okay, to be fair, I had 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:23.440 never I had heard of like glee clubs, Like it 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:26.600 was like an ancient text, like something that used to happen. 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:30.080 But like I didn't know growing up, like anybody, if 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:33.160 any existed. I thought it was like an old thing. Yeah, 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:35.520 I didn't know people were doing like show choir. I 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:37.960 didn't know show Choir existed until we did Glee. I 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:41.200 had no idea. So you're not alone in that. 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:45.560 No, A lot of people didn't, to be fair, you know, Yeah, 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:49.920 obviously the show kind of blew up as we were on, 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:53.440 you know, deep in the Glee bubble of like doing 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:55.120 all the hard work that you had said and how 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:59.280 much work it really it took for us. But out 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.040 in the world, like, what was it like for you 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:05.800 getting recognized and kind of feeling that side of things? 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:08.840 I think it was it was cool, right, I think 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.520 it was gratifying, because I do think for that like 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.080 year and a half two years, however, alonga was we 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:18.400 were so inundated with each other world in a kind 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:20.520 of you forgot the rest of the world was existing 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:23.640 because it was so demanding. So then when you could 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:25.600 go on even the death of the show, right, it 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:28.560 wasn't until I would travel somewhere else and I'd be 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:29.840 on Miami and South Beach. 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:34.080 But yeah, also because to be honest, like the target 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:37.680 demo was a little different right around. Yeah, it wouldn't 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:38.040 be like. 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:39.440 Everyone, but oh yeah, I heard that it was done 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.920 really dope, Like congratulations. First is people in the world 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.400 being like I'm obsessed with it, Like it's funny, Like 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:47.800 I met somebody last week and they told me that 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:52.960 their favorite artist on Apple Music is Glee cast and 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:54.000 that's the current day. 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:58.840 Yeah, it should be like are you okay? 0:08:58.240 --> 0:08:58.439 Are you? 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:02.720 Are you in therapy? Okay? 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:03.600 They weren't on the show. 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:04.640 They just liked the show. 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:09.720 I think that's also like white So that time and 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.000 we've talked about it a lot on here, but like 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:16.120 that time was so formative, Like you said, we were 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.559 all around each other all the time. We were obsessed 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:20.160 with each other. We hung out with each other all 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.280 the time. If we weren't filming, we were going to 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:26.480 events with each other. And so that set up this 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.200 whole foundation. All that chemistry you see on the show 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:31.839 was because we all liked each other and we all 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:35.080 got along. None of us realized that's what we were 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.400 signing up for, that we would have all these like 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:41.360 new great friends. Right. So, like bumping into you even 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:42.920 though like you know, you were on the show the 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:46.200 entire time, but like bumping into you was like, oh, 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:49.679 this is family, Like this is our family, and I 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:52.319 feel like it's so nice because like I feel like 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:55.840 you see Amber a lot and oh yeah. But like 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:59.360 when we started going to events and things, I felt 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:02.640 like we were was learning from you because somehow we 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:07.640 would go someplace like Dijon knew everyone Dejon was like connected, 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.959 except we're like how does We're like at the chateau 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:14.000 for some event and he's talking to all these people like. 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.040 What how did you know? 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:18.680 Because we're all like new, we're all figuring this out, 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:22.000 and Dejon is just like, oh, entertainment, baby, like he 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:24.760 has been doing this for forever. Yeah. 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:27.080 Yeah, yeah, it was cool because it was kind of 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.640 like being for me that part, and then the show 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:31.839 for me felt like high school, right. So that's why 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.960 when I see anybody, it felt like the introduction to 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.920 this bit in my life. And then also like now 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.280 when you want to say that, they say, it's very 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:42.839 much to do your job right, do your job. It's 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:44.360 toel nice or pleasant. 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:46.640 But have a great day. Guys, it was great working 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:46.920 with you. 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:51.080 Then it felt like almost took every form of your life, 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:52.120 like you wanted to know that. 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:53.680 People, you wanted to experience them. 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:56.480 It was more so like an experience than just a job, 0:10:56.520 --> 0:11:00.440 which I think most people don't get right. 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:07.719 None of us obviously we get asked like if we 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:09.280 knew the show was going to be a success or 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:12.640 anything like that, and obviously none of us knew that. 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:17.760 But do you remember, besides you know, getting recognized once 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:19.640 we were out in the world and going to other cities, 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:23.600 of the feeling of when the show started to air 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:26.240 that like we were always like really proud of what 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:30.920 we were doing. But because like people like you and 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:33.240 I did not know glee clubs existed. My high school 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:36.640 experience was very different than this show. Yeah, and you 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:38.679 said you gave up sort of being in entertainment during 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.680 high school of like when you're now filming this and 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.600 this is sort of high school again and you're also 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:48.240 in college and flunking out of classes because we're not 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:52.600 giving you enough time, that feeling of like for me, 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:54.240 it was like, oh, these are my college years, Like 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:56.920 this is making up for this thing I didn't get 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:01.080 and I'm doing something I really liked. Like I think 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:04.200 anybody on the show can attest to. You didn't get 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:06.720 a lot of opportunities to do something where you got 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:08.959 to sing, dance and act, like do all the things 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:12.240 we all really enjoyed doing, and like the feeling of 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.600 being able to do that every day with all these 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:17.280 people that we really enjoyed, Like do you remember it? 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:19.600 Was there a point for you we're like, oh, this 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.839 is wild, this is crazy that this is my job. 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:25.120 I think the part I. 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:27.800 Honestly remember that it's probably gonna be different than everybody 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:32.120 else was when I saw how the studio and network 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:36.160 responded to because I've been around the block a couple 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:38.480 of times, right, and that wasn't normally so many times 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:41.360 they pop up, how they come to rehearsals. I even 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:44.800 remember like like championing certain things. I was like, oh, 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.199 and I remember the upfront too, right, Yeah, and we 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:49.960 think were kind of like they're putting a lot into 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:52.160 this show. I think it even me or early right 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:53.119 after the super. 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:56.600 Bowl or something. Yeah, it was after American Yeah, I 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:59.080 was at that point was when I was like, oh, 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:03.480 it's special, like people are noticing and special, and then 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:06.240 I get the fear was I remember a little bit 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:08.679 of the fear was when people people saw it. 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:13.079 If that was right. I knew it was special. I 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.640 knew that network and Sex Battle was special. 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:17.960 But yeah, you just never know. I think it's also 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:21.680 interesting because I feel like you and Nya had more 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:24.600 experience than us in that way, because you had both 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.600 grown up working a lot and being being in LA 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:30.040 and being around the entertainment business, Like you knew to 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:31.720 look for those things. And we're like, oh, yeah, this 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:34.200 is probably normal. The execs are here all the time. 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:37.000 Right, Yeah, did you do another show You're like, were 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:37.160 the net? 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:44.400 Yeah, like, oh, nobody cares about us, worse data. She 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:47.440 should be here. She wants to see this. I assure you. 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:52.640 I'm curious since given your. 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:56.080 Experience in the business and like you'd done this before 0:13:57.080 --> 0:14:01.000 when Matt leaves the show essentially when wh you know, 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:04.199 I think the fans have questions of like why didn't 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:06.400 anybody acknowledge it right? 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:08.840 Like what was the experience? 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:12.280 Like I would imagine like some of the things you 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:15.000 had learned in your past and given that you had 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:19.400 done this potentially helped you in understanding like this is 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:21.320 how the job kind of works. 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:26.400 Yes and no to that, I think because I think 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:28.640 a lot of why it happened that way is because 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:30.040 it happened so last minute. 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:31.720 I don't know if you guys remember I went to 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:32.800 the seasons who bottles you? 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:39.160 And I already felt something right, so I pick me 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:43.400 up like done the deal with coming back? Something happened 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:45.760 behind the scenes. They were like still go to the 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:50.200 shoe often to shoot was super awkward because in my mind, 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:52.640 I'm thinking, like why am I coming to the shoot? 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:56.560 They're like studios like go to the shoot, go to 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:59.760 the shoot rather to go than not go, And they 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:02.720 took in that moment. It was weird right because it 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:06.080 wasn't like settled if I think we were starting work the. 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:10.479 Next week, so it was also processing this in real. 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:12.720 Time as it's unfold I think it would have been 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:14.640 different if I was like total at the end of 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:16.440 the last season, like Okay, this is what's happening. 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:20.120 I think there was a response to something. Right. I 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:21.760 was so young. It was all I knew for a 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:23.960 year and a half to the years. But I'm afraid, 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:24.800 and I was like, God. 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.520 If it's not mine taking, right, it's not mine taking 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:29.880 And then he did right. So then I think it 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:35.760 was just the processing of feeling like these people where 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:38.960 I had been able to call right and it was 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:40.920 such a family, and I was so young. I was 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:43.360 nineteen when I got on the show rightly right now 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:46.960 on twenty one. To feel like that's ended and that 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:50.160 wasn't my family. That was probably a harder lesson in 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.240 realization than just the job. 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:56.640 Yeah, yeah, especially when you it's like one of those 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:01.680 like classic horrible entertainment business where it's like you've already 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:04.120 like gotten your deal picked up for season two, you're 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:08.880 at the photo shoot and then yeah, yeah, I didn't 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:09.760 even remember that. 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:13.080 No, no, I remember that. And do you feel like 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:16.920 you it took you time to find closure. 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:18.680 Do you feel like you ever got the closure like 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:21.000 of just kind of closing that chapter? 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:29.000 Yes, yes, And I think I definitely have a full 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:32.040 circle perspective. I think it was supposed that happened, rather 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:34.040 I would have wanted it to happen with sports and 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:37.800 I at that time. But I think it retrospected was 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:40.680 a part of my journey and I'm grateful for it. 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.000 It also just shows me how to be a better 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:44.560 showrunner and director, and how. 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:47.160 To low on actors and how to meet a little better. 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:49.440 And then I also think there was something I just 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:52.240 need to inducted personally, right and I and I'm okay 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:54.960 with not knowing where I would have ended up in 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:58.960 that journey continued I was supposed And then I think 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:02.560 also it gave me an absence of attachment to it 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:05.640 or aspect to an goal that was like, oh, this 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:06.679 is what I wanted it to be. 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:08.159 This like this is what it actually is. 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:12.199 Yeah, And I think that's time and maturity, right, and 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:15.760 also like just letting that like the wounds heal, if 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:17.399 there were wounds, you know what I mean, just all 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:22.080 the things that you feel when something abrupt happens like that. 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:25.359 But it's you know, it's the name of the entertainment game, 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:29.679 and you know you can't we're not taking these things 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:33.520 were hopefully with maturity, like not taking these things as 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:38.520 personally anymore or time are worth to achievements and jobs 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:39.520 that we have, right. 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:41.879 I think the funny part is some of the most 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:44.280 what I have done to The more irritating part would 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:46.840 be when people would project their opinion of it. 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.679 Oh, I haven't even thought about that show, but then 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:51.400 now now because. 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:52.879 For that. 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:56.800 Yeah, oh, and you must feel it. It's like I 0:17:56.920 --> 0:17:58.800 must feel or you feel like. 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:02.840 I should feel, right, Yeah, I think, like that's not 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:12.960 my business. Don't put that on me. We just got 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:16.760 done watching the full series. And when you've come back, 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:19.639 you come back in like I think twice, and it 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:23.120 was so nice too, Like I knew you came back 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:25.840 at some point, I just didn't remember exactly when. And 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:28.959 each time you come back, it just felt it was 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:31.160 it was just like a beautiful thing to see because 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:34.960 it really felt like obviously, like everybody comes back in 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:38.680 that I live number, everybody's there. But there was something 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:41.520 about like you and Harry coming onto that stage together 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:46.120 and like doing a dance together that that really felt 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:50.440 like the circle closing, you know, that got me so hard, 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:52.320 like more than anybody else showing up on that stage. 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:54.240 I don't know why. It was like you and Harry 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:57.480 together joining us was like like choked down. 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:00.600