1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: And That's what You Really missed with Jenna. 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 3: Welcome to You and That's what You Really miss podcast. 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 3: Matt Rutherford is here. 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: Kevin Dejeon Talton himself is here. 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 3: Jehan Taltan, the sweetest, the sweetest, accomplished, kind, talented human. 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 3: He was on the show with us in the very 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 3: beginning after the pilot. He was a part of the 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 3: original twelve. Still so so great and just comes and 10 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 3: you're gonna want to hear this. 11 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: He's so wise, you know. 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 3: He talks about his own experience on the show and 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 3: what it was like leaving the show and. 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: All the wonderful things he's doing now. 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: Hi, Jean, thank you so much for coming on here, 16 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: like you're one of our very last guests, because you're 17 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: one of the most requested. Oh, because we couldn't close. 18 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: We got to hear we got to hear. 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 4: From Yeah, I appreciate that guy. Thank you for having. 20 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: You're just such a part of like the formation of 21 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 3: and the creation of the chemistry of the group of 22 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 3: you know, new directions, and it wouldn't feel right to 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 3: close this out without having you on. 24 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: So we're so grateful your share. 25 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. 26 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: How how are you. 27 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 3: You been well? 28 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 4: I can't complain. It feels like a lifetime will go honestly. 29 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 5: Right, yeah, but I'm blessed. 30 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 4: I can't complain. 31 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 5: How are we. 32 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 3: Right? 33 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: That's right? We only got to go to true Yeah, 34 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: yes we do, yes, we do. 35 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 3: Well, We're so happy to have you here. I think 36 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 3: that we got to tell the people, like how did. 37 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: Glee come into your life? 38 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: Can you just share if like you knew about the 39 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 3: show before, and like how you got how did you 40 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: get the gig? 41 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: How did how did we get you? 42 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: So? 43 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 4: I was I was I was eighty, I was nineteen, 44 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 4: I was in college. 45 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 5: I was going to college for entertainment law, and I 46 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 5: was working at the Apple Store. 47 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 4: I started acting and dancing when I was a kid, 48 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 4: so I had been in it. Took a break when 49 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 4: I was like in high school, got back in college. 50 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 5: I was like, if I go to school in California, 51 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 5: I can act a get not the audition It was 52 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 5: like the next day, but I had this gig at 53 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 5: the Apple Store. 54 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like one to that audition. They were like no, no, no, 55 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 4: it's a really cool show. 56 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 5: Uh, you guys have already filmed the pilot, so that 57 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 5: the trailer was out for the pilot. 58 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 4: I went in and watched and my favorite movie was 59 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 4: Sister Rack Too. Growing up. That's where I got into entertainments. 60 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 4: I was like, why is this really remind me of st. 61 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: That's the biggest compliment anyone could give the show. 62 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was watching. I'm gonna go. 63 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go, so I what's the audition? The next 64 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 5: day was with Zach and then the next day then 65 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 5: they called me back and like he come tomorrow, and 66 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 5: the uh aster came in there read saying danced again 67 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 5: and that I didn't hear anything for like a week, 68 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 5: and then they called. 69 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 4: And they were like I was walking into a test 70 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 4: late and they were like, you got it. 71 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 5: And then we started filming like a couple of days later. 72 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 5: And it's funny when I got there, think it with 73 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 5: brag or even one of them was like, welcome to 74 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 5: the show. 75 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 4: I was like, and I was like, and I was like, 76 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 4: in my mind, they were like, you know they did. 77 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 4: They didn't know exactly what it was gonna be, but 78 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 4: I guess. 79 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 5: The writers knew what it was going to be. When 80 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 5: Harry and I walked off. We were like, oh, happy 81 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 5: to have any but we were kind of like. 82 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: You Toobe because did you guys think it was just 83 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: like one episode? You didn't. 84 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like one or two. But then the writers knew. 85 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 4: They were like oh, and I. 86 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: Was like, we need you. I remember the first day 87 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: you guys walked on, like the first day we filmed together. Yeah, 88 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: it was the first time because we had all been 89 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: we had known each other for almost a year by 90 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: this point. Yeah, and that's right, Like having new people 91 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: on felt so strange, like how is this going to work? 92 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: But obviously you and Harry are like the nicest people 93 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: on the planet. Do you remember like that first day 94 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: on set all of us together or any time? 95 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 4: I do? I do remember it. 96 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 5: I haven't thought about it, but yeah, very vividly, I think, 97 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 5: because I didn't know exactly what it was, right, So 98 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 5: I had practice with none of you guys, just Marked 99 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 5: and Corey because we actually gave practice the football stuff. 100 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 5: Those people and then the other actors in the in 101 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 5: the extras were there, but I hadn't met eve you guys, 102 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 5: but all of you were so nice. 103 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 4: You kept coming up and being like nice to meet you. 104 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 4: Nice to meet. You like, nice to meet. It's the 105 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 4: nicest casts. One by one they come up and speak. 106 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: We weren't jaded yet. 107 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. 108 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 109 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 5: At the end of the day, I understood, Oh got it, 110 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 5: it's a glee club because I think we filmed that 111 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 5: last round dates or something when they like welcomed us 112 00:04:58,960 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 5: into the glee and I. 113 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: Was like, right, all right, better than the Apple Store 114 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 2: gig for a little bit, you know. Do you know? 115 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 5: I did not stop going to school or the Apple 116 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 5: Store gig until like six months of filming because I 117 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 5: was so. 118 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 4: I was so I was eating by the trailer. 119 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 5: And I had got to incomplete all my classes. Every 120 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 5: time I was taking the test in my trail left, 121 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 5: I would they. 122 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 4: Would call us, oh wow. 123 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 5: So I was braining with the world. I was like, 124 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 5: I'm not losing this diamond hold on. It is gonna last. 125 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. 126 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 127 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: A lot of people don't probably have that foresight when 128 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: they get into acting. But you knew, You're like, this 129 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: could go away tomorrow. 130 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 4: Tomorrow, right, I gonna need an education in. 131 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 2: A job because we're like, oh, this pilot probably won't 132 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: get picked up. Most don't. We didn't know. 133 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, being a child actor too. 134 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 3: Your time, like anyway, yes, yeah, yeah, absolutely, let me 135 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 3: see it on paper literally right Obviously in the script 136 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 3: and the scenes, you're like, oh, welcome to the Glee Club. 137 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 4: You're like, wow, I'm. 138 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: A part of the show now. 139 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: And we started doing like Dan you know, like Somebody 140 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 3: to Love. 141 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: I remember doing that one, and that. 142 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 3: Was like the complete twelve of us, right twelve that 143 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 3: really felt. 144 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: Like we were a unit. 145 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: What was it like, like jumping into the musical numbers 146 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 3: and all of that, Like was that something that was 147 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 3: in your wheelhouse or did it feel different? 148 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 2: For sure? 149 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 5: Because I started with Debbie Allen's dance A Have Me 150 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 5: when I was like three, and then it doesn't play 151 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 5: and I had been on tour like Rebok and I 152 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 5: did like Disney singleongs growing up, so it was very 153 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 5: much in that vein. Yeah, I don't think I knew 154 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:40,679 Speaker 5: how much the show. 155 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 4: Required at first, you know, like it became very all encompassing. 156 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 4: It was I thought it was going to. 157 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 5: But also like a gift again because I felt like 158 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 5: it was full circle to kind of like got me 159 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 5: into entertainment, which was a choir of you know, kids 160 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 5: inner city. And then I also didn't know what glee 161 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 5: clubs were before the show. 162 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 4: I didn't know they. 163 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 5: So then I started learning, like, oh, this is the 164 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 5: real I thought the show made it up. I thought 165 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 5: so Blee was like, oh, okay, You'm make glee club cool. 166 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 4: And then I realized it was like a real big 167 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 4: in the world. 168 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: So I was like, Okay, to be fair, I had 169 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: never I had heard of like glee clubs, Like it 170 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: was like an ancient text, like something that used to happen. 171 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: But like I didn't know growing up, like anybody, if 172 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: any existed. I thought it was like an old thing. Yeah, 173 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 2: I didn't know people were doing like show choir. I 174 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: didn't know show Choir existed until we did Glee. I 175 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: had no idea. So you're not alone in that. 176 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 3: No, A lot of people didn't, to be fair, you know, Yeah, 177 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: obviously the show kind of blew up as we were on, 178 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 3: you know, deep in the Glee bubble of like doing 179 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: all the hard work that you had said and how 180 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 3: much work it really it took for us. But out 181 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: in the world, like, what was it like for you 182 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: getting recognized and kind of feeling that side of things? 183 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 5: I think it was it was cool, right, I think 184 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 5: it was gratifying, because I do think for that like 185 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 5: year and a half two years, however, alonga was we 186 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 5: were so inundated with each other world in a kind 187 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 5: of you forgot the rest of the world was existing 188 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 5: because it was so demanding. So then when you could 189 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 5: go on even the death of the show, right, it 190 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 5: wasn't until I would travel somewhere else and I'd be 191 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 5: on Miami and South Beach. 192 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 4: But yeah, also because to be honest, like the target 193 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 4: demo was a little different right around. Yeah, it wouldn't 194 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 4: be like. 195 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 5: Everyone, but oh yeah, I heard that it was done 196 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 5: really dope, Like congratulations. First is people in the world 197 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 5: being like I'm obsessed with it, Like it's funny, Like 198 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 5: I met somebody last week and they told me that 199 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 5: their favorite artist on Apple Music is Glee cast and 200 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 5: that's the current day. 201 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it should be like are you okay? 202 00:08:58,240 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 3: Are you? 203 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 2: Are you in therapy? Okay? 204 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: They weren't on the show. 205 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 4: They just liked the show. 206 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 2: I think that's also like white So that time and 207 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: we've talked about it a lot on here, but like 208 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 2: that time was so formative, Like you said, we were 209 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 2: all around each other all the time. We were obsessed 210 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: with each other. We hung out with each other all 211 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: the time. If we weren't filming, we were going to 212 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: events with each other. And so that set up this 213 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 2: whole foundation. All that chemistry you see on the show 214 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 2: was because we all liked each other and we all 215 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 2: got along. None of us realized that's what we were 216 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: signing up for, that we would have all these like 217 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: new great friends. Right. So, like bumping into you even 218 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: though like you know, you were on the show the 219 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 2: entire time, but like bumping into you was like, oh, 220 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 2: this is family, Like this is our family, and I 221 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 2: feel like it's so nice because like I feel like 222 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 2: you see Amber a lot and oh yeah. But like 223 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 2: when we started going to events and things, I felt 224 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: like we were was learning from you because somehow we 225 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: would go someplace like Dijon knew everyone Dejon was like connected, 226 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 2: except we're like how does We're like at the chateau 227 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: for some event and he's talking to all these people like. 228 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 4: What how did you know? 229 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 2: Because we're all like new, we're all figuring this out, 230 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: and Dejon is just like, oh, entertainment, baby, like he 231 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: has been doing this for forever. Yeah. 232 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it was cool because it was kind of 233 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 5: like being for me that part, and then the show 234 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 5: for me felt like high school, right. So that's why 235 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 5: when I see anybody, it felt like the introduction to 236 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 5: this bit in my life. And then also like now 237 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 5: when you want to say that, they say, it's very 238 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 5: much to do your job right, do your job. It's 239 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 5: toel nice or pleasant. 240 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 4: But have a great day. Guys, it was great working 241 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 4: with you. 242 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 5: Then it felt like almost took every form of your life, 243 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 5: like you wanted to know that. 244 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 4: People, you wanted to experience them. 245 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 5: It was more so like an experience than just a job, 246 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 5: which I think most people don't get right. 247 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 2: None of us obviously we get asked like if we 248 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 2: knew the show was going to be a success or 249 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: anything like that, and obviously none of us knew that. 250 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 2: But do you remember, besides you know, getting recognized once 251 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: we were out in the world and going to other cities, 252 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: of the feeling of when the show started to air 253 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: that like we were always like really proud of what 254 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: we were doing. But because like people like you and 255 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: I did not know glee clubs existed. My high school 256 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: experience was very different than this show. Yeah, and you 257 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 2: said you gave up sort of being in entertainment during 258 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 2: high school of like when you're now filming this and 259 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: this is sort of high school again and you're also 260 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: in college and flunking out of classes because we're not 261 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: giving you enough time, that feeling of like for me, 262 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: it was like, oh, these are my college years, Like 263 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: this is making up for this thing I didn't get 264 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 2: and I'm doing something I really liked. Like I think 265 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 2: anybody on the show can attest to. You didn't get 266 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: a lot of opportunities to do something where you got 267 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 2: to sing, dance and act, like do all the things 268 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 2: we all really enjoyed doing, and like the feeling of 269 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: being able to do that every day with all these 270 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: people that we really enjoyed, Like do you remember it? 271 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: Was there a point for you we're like, oh, this 272 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 2: is wild, this is crazy that this is my job. 273 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 4: I think the part I. 274 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 5: Honestly remember that it's probably gonna be different than everybody 275 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 5: else was when I saw how the studio and network 276 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 5: responded to because I've been around the block a couple 277 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 5: of times, right, and that wasn't normally so many times 278 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 5: they pop up, how they come to rehearsals. I even 279 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 5: remember like like championing certain things. I was like, oh, 280 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 5: and I remember the upfront too, right, Yeah, and we 281 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 5: think were kind of like they're putting a lot into 282 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 5: this show. I think it even me or early right 283 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:53,119 Speaker 5: after the super. 284 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 2: Bowl or something. Yeah, it was after American Yeah, I 285 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 2: was at that point was when I was like, oh, 286 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 2: it's special, like people are noticing and special, and then 287 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: I get the fear was I remember a little bit 288 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 2: of the fear was when people people saw it. 289 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 4: If that was right. I knew it was special. I 290 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 4: knew that network and Sex Battle was special. 291 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, you just never know. I think it's also 292 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 2: interesting because I feel like you and Nya had more 293 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 2: experience than us in that way, because you had both 294 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: grown up working a lot and being being in LA 295 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: and being around the entertainment business, Like you knew to 296 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 2: look for those things. And we're like, oh, yeah, this 297 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 2: is probably normal. The execs are here all the time. 298 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, did you do another show You're like, were 299 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 5: the net? 300 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, oh, nobody cares about us, worse data. She 301 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 2: should be here. She wants to see this. I assure you. 302 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: I'm curious since given your. 303 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 3: Experience in the business and like you'd done this before 304 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 3: when Matt leaves the show essentially when wh you know, 305 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 3: I think the fans have questions of like why didn't 306 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 3: anybody acknowledge it right? 307 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: Like what was the experience? 308 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 3: Like I would imagine like some of the things you 309 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 3: had learned in your past and given that you had 310 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 3: done this potentially helped you in understanding like this is 311 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 3: how the job kind of works. 312 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 5: Yes and no to that, I think because I think 313 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 5: a lot of why it happened that way is because 314 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 5: it happened so last minute. 315 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys remember I went to 316 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 4: the seasons who bottles you? 317 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 5: And I already felt something right, so I pick me 318 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 5: up like done the deal with coming back? Something happened 319 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 5: behind the scenes. They were like still go to the 320 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 5: shoe often to shoot was super awkward because in my mind, 321 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 5: I'm thinking, like why am I coming to the shoot? 322 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 5: They're like studios like go to the shoot, go to 323 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 5: the shoot rather to go than not go, And they 324 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 5: took in that moment. It was weird right because it 325 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 5: wasn't like settled if I think we were starting work the. 326 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:10,479 Speaker 4: Next week, so it was also processing this in real. 327 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 5: Time as it's unfold I think it would have been 328 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 5: different if I was like total at the end of 329 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 5: the last season, like Okay, this is what's happening. 330 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 4: I think there was a response to something. Right. I 331 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 4: was so young. It was all I knew for a 332 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 4: year and a half to the years. But I'm afraid, 333 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 4: and I was like, God. 334 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 5: If it's not mine taking, right, it's not mine taking 335 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 5: And then he did right. So then I think it 336 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 5: was just the processing of feeling like these people where 337 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 5: I had been able to call right and it was 338 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 5: such a family, and I was so young. I was 339 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 5: nineteen when I got on the show rightly right now 340 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 5: on twenty one. To feel like that's ended and that 341 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 5: wasn't my family. That was probably a harder lesson in 342 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 5: realization than just the job. 343 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, especially when you it's like one of those 344 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 2: like classic horrible entertainment business where it's like you've already 345 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: like gotten your deal picked up for season two, you're 346 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 2: at the photo shoot and then yeah, yeah, I didn't 347 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: even remember that. 348 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: No, no, I remember that. And do you feel like 349 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: you it took you time to find closure. 350 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 3: Do you feel like you ever got the closure like 351 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 3: of just kind of closing that chapter? 352 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, And I think I definitely have a full 353 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 5: circle perspective. I think it was supposed that happened, rather 354 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 5: I would have wanted it to happen with sports and 355 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 5: I at that time. But I think it retrospected was 356 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 5: a part of my journey and I'm grateful for it. 357 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 5: It also just shows me how to be a better 358 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 5: showrunner and director, and how. 359 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 4: To low on actors and how to meet a little better. 360 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 5: And then I also think there was something I just 361 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 5: need to inducted personally, right and I and I'm okay 362 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 5: with not knowing where I would have ended up in 363 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 5: that journey continued I was supposed And then I think 364 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 5: also it gave me an absence of attachment to it 365 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 5: or aspect to an goal that was like, oh, this 366 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 5: is what I wanted it to be. 367 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 4: This like this is what it actually is. 368 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's time and maturity, right, and 369 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: also like just letting that like the wounds heal, if 370 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 3: there were wounds, you know what I mean, just all 371 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 3: the things that you feel when something abrupt happens like that. 372 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 3: But it's you know, it's the name of the entertainment game, 373 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 3: and you know you can't we're not taking these things 374 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 3: were hopefully with maturity, like not taking these things as 375 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 3: personally anymore or time are worth to achievements and jobs 376 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 3: that we have, right. 377 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 5: I think the funny part is some of the most 378 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 5: what I have done to The more irritating part would 379 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 5: be when people would project their opinion of it. 380 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 4: Oh, I haven't even thought about that show, but then 381 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 4: now now because. 382 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 3: For that. 383 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, and you must feel it. It's like I 384 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 4: must feel or you feel like. 385 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: I should feel, right, Yeah, I think, like that's not 386 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 2: my business. Don't put that on me. We just got 387 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: done watching the full series. And when you've come back, 388 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 2: you come back in like I think twice, and it 389 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 2: was so nice too, Like I knew you came back 390 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: at some point, I just didn't remember exactly when. And 391 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,959 Speaker 2: each time you come back, it just felt it was 392 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 2: it was just like a beautiful thing to see because 393 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: it really felt like obviously, like everybody comes back in 394 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 2: that I live number, everybody's there. But there was something 395 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 2: about like you and Harry coming onto that stage together 396 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 2: and like doing a dance together that that really felt 397 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 2: like the circle closing, you know, that got me so hard, 398 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: like more than anybody else showing up on that stage. 399 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 2: I don't know why. It was like you and Harry 400 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 2: together joining us was like like choked down. 401 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 5: I was really felt that was my partner crime, right, 402 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 5: we went on that journey together. 403 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 4: And I'll even add. 404 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 5: Heather and I, but I also quind not a blessing, 405 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 5: right because I was younger than Harry two and even 406 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 5: that wisdom and pete kinda that he had and deny 407 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 5: it Heather being there before, So it kind of felt 408 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 5: like it was serendid toitous that it wasn't a journey 409 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 5: to walk on alone. 410 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 4: So you never felt like I have nowhere next to 411 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 4: you to lean on, right right. 412 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: And there's some good people to lean on exactly. 413 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, do you have any great like memories of the 414 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 3: numbers that you were part of because you were part 415 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 3: of a lot of them, Like do you have any 416 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 3: favorites that you enjoyed felling me. 417 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 4: I loved, uh hate on me there? 418 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it lives in my mind, like the one 419 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 3: like that one lives in my mind. 420 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 4: It was so fun. 421 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 422 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 5: I also like, I don't I can remember what the 423 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 5: song was though when we did, uh it was it 424 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 5: was it sectionals and we were it. 425 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 4: Was that big competition I think it was don't run 426 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 4: on my parade? 427 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: Was it the journey one? 428 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 2: I think so. Yeah. 429 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 5: I think we kept region through like the like the 430 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 5: auditorium out down. 431 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: There, yep, in the black and red right, yes. 432 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, that felt like because it felt at that 433 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 5: point of real journey. 434 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 2: And we were finally like in a theater. 435 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 5: It felt like, Okay, we accomplished something. I felt like 436 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 5: at that point to me, really we really were. 437 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 2: Like a totally that was our first time. I think 438 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: that was our first sectionals and we were all that was. 439 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 2: That felt like a really big deal because but before 440 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: that we had just been on the stages and you're 441 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 2: not really seeing anybody else and having a real audience. 442 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 2: It was very strange. Yeah, but it did feel like, oh, yeah, 443 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: we've made it. This is this is We're gonna wing 444 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 2: this right, We're like, oh, we have budget, We're in 445 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 2: a real theater. That was how I didn't necessarily notice 446 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 2: the exacts. Sometimes I would notice the budget like, oh, 447 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: this is expensive. 448 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 3: We ask everybody on the show who was a part 449 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 3: of the show, what is the feeling that Glee leaves 450 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 3: you with? 451 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 4: M Like the experience of doing it or the show. 452 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 3: Itself both, whatever you want. 453 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 5: I think the show itself was positive, right, gave people 454 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 5: permission to be themselves, people who weren't see people who 455 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 5: felt like they were out ass people who were you know, 456 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 5: hiding in the dark about their sexuality or were things 457 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 5: about themselves. 458 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 4: Or even that they were a theater, right would it 459 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 4: be sp I think it gave visibility. 460 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. 461 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 4: From an experiences stamic point, it's that were the lightning strikes. 462 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 5: It just is a roar, right, and I think oppositive 463 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 5: people don't get to experience that. It was such a 464 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 5: big experience that I think the gifts right because you know, 465 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 5: you teach you how to just do it better every 466 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 5: time and also how to I think that none of 467 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 5: us had a road map of how to do it right, 468 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 5: you know, yeah, be able to look back or offer 469 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:05,959 Speaker 5: somebody like, hey, this would be the best way to 470 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 5: do that. 471 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 4: And I think we can do that with all our experiences. 472 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 2: And speaking of which, I feel like you have been 473 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 2: doing so much after the show, where you've been in 474 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 2: a leadership position where you've been able to take all 475 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 2: these things that you've learned. Can you tell us, like 476 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 2: what sort of things that you've been you've been doing 477 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 2: and show running and making and creating because I think. 478 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 5: The cool part was a show even to that, like 479 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 5: having the platform to be able to do other things, 480 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 5: like all those years on set, even though they go 481 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 5: to film school became my film school, right, Oh yeah, learning, listening, 482 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 5: cut in action, you know, learning you know what every 483 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 5: role is and it having a passion for story, right. 484 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 5: I think as a as a leader on set, the 485 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 5: creative is the driving force and having a passion to 486 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 5: peak amazing. 487 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 2: I mean it's been You've gotten shows made and like 488 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 2: that's just that's insane. That is such a different process. 489 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 2: Did you always have you know, like the I don't know, 490 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 2: the wish or the dream to get more into the 491 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 2: behind the scenes things like that. 492 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 5: I think that's the biggest say as a creative and 493 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 5: I started when I was when I was so young, 494 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 5: is I want to have at the table. I've felt 495 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 5: like every time you walk up to the audition rooms 496 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 5: asking them to see you and choose you, versus every 497 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 5: time I walk into a meeting, I'm telling them how 498 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,479 Speaker 5: I bring them about, how they're like EASi, or how 499 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,959 Speaker 5: I add to their plates, and you're seen as an 500 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 5: abset in that liability and I think I could. 501 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 4: Or want to go through a career where I had 502 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 4: to ask for a pooval at every step. 503 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: For sure, Well said, you need to write a book, 504 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: you need to take this on tour. 505 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 2: It's like I feel inspired, I feel rejuvenated, like or 506 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 2: maybe you can be my therapist. I don't know, but 507 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 2: it's it's so nice to hear you talk talk so 508 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: eloquently and like deeply about all these things, and it's 509 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: so nice. I hope I can see you more instead 510 00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 2: of just running into yeah, because like you're just wise 511 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 2: beyond your years. You're so talented and so creative, and 512 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: everyone needs to go look up things you've done, because 513 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 2: you've done it's like such a wide variety. Where can 514 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 2: people like. 515 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 5: Find you and your social media's I'm on Twitter, Instagram, 516 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 5: at these own Sultan. 517 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 3: Well, we're so grateful that you came on and that 518 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 3: our listeners could hear from you. I think it means 519 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 3: a lot. It means a lot to us that, like, 520 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 3: you know, we get to close this chapter with everybody 521 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 3: who was an integral part of this, you know, whether 522 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 3: you you went on to go do your own you know, 523 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 3: on your own path or on the Glee path, like 524 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 3: you were such an in integral part in the beginning 525 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 3: of the formation of our club and and just as 526 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 3: a friend. So we're just like really grateful for you 527 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 3: and and you know, we wish you the best. 528 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 5: Thank you, guys. I appreciate you guys having me. It's 529 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 5: it's been our pleasure. Congratulates it to you guys on this. 530 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 4: Thanks we made it. 531 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 2: Through it. Good God, good luck on your news. Let 532 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: us know how we can Hopefu'll see you soon. 533 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: Thank you to Jeon. Appreciate Byeia. He's so nice, so sweet. 534 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 3: I'm so glad that we got him on before the 535 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 3: end of this the Glee run. 536 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 2: Honestly, every time I see him, he just lights us. 537 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: He's justice, Justice for Meth Rutherford. 538 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's never changed. He's always been that, I know. 539 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: And also I think it's it's so interesting to learn 540 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 2: what people are going through on the other side of it. 541 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 2: When we were filming, like he was still going to 542 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 2: school and still trying to do his apple job. 543 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: I mean, and he's been around for long. This wasn't 544 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 3: his first gig where he was like you know. 545 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 2: But like he showed up to set knew everything he 546 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 2: was supposed to. 547 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: Know, never complained thing, and you would never. 548 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 2: Know he was like, you know, stressing or like doing 549 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 2: his classes. 550 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: Incomplete on this class and completes on everything. 551 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much Dejon for joining us, and 552 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 3: we're so so grateful that we got to talk to 553 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 3: you and see you again. 554 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: And you guys. 555 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 3: Next week we have one of our most raquastic guests, 556 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 3: so stay tuned and come back next week. 557 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening and follow us on Instagram at and 558 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 2: that's what you really miss pod. 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