WEBVTT - Jason Weaver Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everyone, Before we jump into today's episode, we wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to send you guys a message because I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 1>have heard a little bit about what's going on in

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood these days. As you may have heard, the WGA

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<v Speaker 1>has been on strike for a while and recently SAG

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<v Speaker 1>after It joined in with the fight. Writer Will and

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<v Speaker 1>myself have all been a member of SAG after A

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<v Speaker 1>for thirty plus years and we fully support this strike.

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<v Speaker 1>When the strike was announced, a lot of questions were

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<v Speaker 1>opened up. Is doing pod Meets World going against the strike?

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<v Speaker 1>Is doing Pod Meets World the live tour going against

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<v Speaker 1>the strike? And there were a lot of tweets spelling

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<v Speaker 1>out what you can do and cannot do. There was

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<v Speaker 1>the SAG after A website that tried to be as

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<v Speaker 1>clear as possible, but we did not want to do

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<v Speaker 1>anything that could have possibly gone against the strike, So

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<v Speaker 1>we reached out individually to our SAG representatives and ask

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<v Speaker 1>them directly, is Pod Meets World allowed? Is the Pod

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<v Speaker 1>meets World live tour allowed? And we have been given

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<v Speaker 1>the green light by our SAG representatives, So with that

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<v Speaker 1>we feel comfortable continuing to do Pod Meats World and

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<v Speaker 1>going on tour with podmeats world life. So continue to

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy our episodes and we will.

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<v Speaker 2>See you on the road. Yes, Keidan, thank you for listening.

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<v Speaker 2>We would like to thank listener Jason P.

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<v Speaker 1>Who was kind enough to point out something currently living

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<v Speaker 1>on the internet that I figured was a perfect look

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<v Speaker 1>into the heart and soul of one of us hosts. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when it comes to our likes and dislikes. And

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<v Speaker 1>I won't make us wait any longer. Writer, do you

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy using the Letterboxed app?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? I'm obsessed? Do okay? Jensen is too. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know what this is? What is knsboieq okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So Letterboxed is essentially a movie social media app, a

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<v Speaker 3>movie watching social media app. But it's become like the

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<v Speaker 3>central database for any movie lover. You can look any

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<v Speaker 3>you can look up any movie and ever made like

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<v Speaker 3>short films, obscure, you know, silent films, whatever. It's compiled

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<v Speaker 3>all of them and it's the best interface. And what

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<v Speaker 3>you can do is keep track of the movies you're watching,

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<v Speaker 3>the movies you want to watch. You can create lists

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<v Speaker 3>of whatever you want. People leave reviews. It's basically like

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<v Speaker 3>the entire like film community.

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<v Speaker 2>Geeks out together. It's nerd. It's nerd stuff. For this,

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<v Speaker 2>here's what I love it for.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm not like I'm not put posting reviews,

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<v Speaker 3>like I've thought about it, and I definitely publicly post

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<v Speaker 3>my like my stars movies. So I go back and

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, like I've rated I don't know, like

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<v Speaker 3>six hundred eight hundred movies.

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<v Speaker 2>There are people who've rated like four thousand films.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like people that I follow who are professional film

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<v Speaker 3>critics or filmmakers that just the sheer amount of like

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<v Speaker 3>film knowledge, it's insane. And then everybody can put their

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<v Speaker 3>top four, which is a great sort of like way

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<v Speaker 3>to know, like if you agree with somebody's taste or not,

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<v Speaker 3>is you get to see their top four just underneath

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<v Speaker 3>their Yeah, really what I wish because now this has

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<v Speaker 3>become my go to app to like share movies with people,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like I have friends who are like what

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<v Speaker 3>should I watch? Or you know, what should I watch

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<v Speaker 3>with my kid? Or and so I can just send

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<v Speaker 3>them a list that I've curated. But mostly it's to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to search my own memory because I forget crap,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I forget what I've seen and so this way,

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<v Speaker 3>there's like a place I can go when somebody's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I really like this movie, do you have any ideas

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<v Speaker 3>or just in a conversation something comes up. I can

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<v Speaker 3>look back on all the movies I've watched in that vein,

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<v Speaker 3>And I really wish this existed for books, because I

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<v Speaker 3>can't do the same thing with books.

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<v Speaker 2>Good Reads is just not that great of an app well.

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<v Speaker 1>As I said, one of our listeners was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>have to point out that your letterboxed profile and reviews

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<v Speaker 1>are viewable by the public, and as he said, I quote,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a small glimpse into the most harsh critic

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<v Speaker 1>of Boy Meets World and himself, and he has some

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely wild beliefs. Yeah, you haven't actually posted reviews, which

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<v Speaker 1>I wish you did for some of them.

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<v Speaker 2>So are you ready to defend some of your takes? God?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I want to start with some of your

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<v Speaker 1>highest rated films for context and to prove that you

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<v Speaker 1>aren't just a hater. Okay, Okay, the department can we

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<v Speaker 1>guess some Okay, I was gonna say, all right, I

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<v Speaker 1>was five done, Yeah Tomorrow, five stars, Coco, five stars,

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<v Speaker 1>Great Movie, Training Day, five stars, uncut Gems five stars.

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<v Speaker 1>There will be Blood five stars. Also, Jensen and I

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<v Speaker 1>were thrilled to see one of your hot takes is

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<v Speaker 1>something we agree with.

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<v Speaker 2>Downsizing four and a half stars, terrible movie. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>when you revisit it. I have a lot of opinions

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<v Speaker 2>about that film. Yeah, that movie. Love terrible film.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it is. I mean, I'm a huge

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<v Speaker 3>Alexander Payne like fanatic. And when that movie came out,

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<v Speaker 3>I went to like an early screening and I kind

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<v Speaker 3>of knew. I was like, oh, there's something. Well, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if we want to get into it, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I love that movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we can discuss that later, but I want to

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<v Speaker 1>now onto the.

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<v Speaker 2>Bottom of your barrel.

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<v Speaker 1>And I I have to admit some of these are

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<v Speaker 1>just shocking, but I I know you will be excited

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<v Speaker 1>to defend them. So maybe Top Gun, Maverick one and

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<v Speaker 1>a half stars.

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<v Speaker 5>Wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just not for me.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it wasn't It wasn't it. But you just didn't

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<v Speaker 4>like it. It doesn't mean it was a bad movie

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<v Speaker 4>because it was a great movie. Well, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean I'm making sure yeah, and acting and story, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean everything about it was good.

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<v Speaker 2>You just didn't like it.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess it depends on what you by everything about

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<v Speaker 3>it being good, like a story as fan service, right

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<v Speaker 3>Like I look at a movie like that and I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like, Okay, so the Christopher mcquarie, who's in a

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<v Speaker 3>great screenwriter wrote a top gun fan service movie, Like

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<v Speaker 3>that's not interesting to me, Like that is execute that film.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you this.

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<v Speaker 3>We went to the like it's it's it's incredibly well made.

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<v Speaker 3>But like I feel the same way about most superhero movies.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I give them one star or half a star,

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<v Speaker 3>is because I'm like what I'm for me my, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I evaluate films for how far they're pushing in a

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<v Speaker 3>cultural conversation, and I feel like a movie like that,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just.

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<v Speaker 2>Your only category is just how far we're pushing big one.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a big part of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I like originality, right Like I like something that

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<v Speaker 3>is like my The ideal movie going experience for me

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<v Speaker 3>is I know nothing about it. I sit down and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm told I'm taken on a journey that takes me

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere I've never been before. And then when I come back,

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<v Speaker 3>I run and go back there and watch it again

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<v Speaker 3>or think about it, you know, afects my life in

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<v Speaker 3>some way, And so that's why I revised stuff, because

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<v Speaker 3>it's like I'll give something a lower rating, but then

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be like, three days later, I'm still thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>About it, so I bump it up.

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<v Speaker 3>So where do you? Where would you come? I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I will never think about Top Gun. Like when I

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<v Speaker 3>walked into Top Gun, I was one person. When I

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<v Speaker 3>walked out, I'm the same person.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>My thoughts in the world never change if you're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the world.

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<v Speaker 3>If I if I if you said to me, I

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<v Speaker 3>really love Top Gun, Maverick, I don't say that tells

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<v Speaker 3>me something about Will's view of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but this means nothing. It's popcorn. It's fun. Fine,

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<v Speaker 2>it's fun. Where does where does? Where? Where?

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<v Speaker 4>Would it then fall in the review of the movie

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<v Speaker 4>that it was the movie that single handedly got people

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<v Speaker 4>back into the theater. That's like, it's right, but would

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<v Speaker 4>that add to the experience at all? Like the because

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<v Speaker 4>you're talking about how it pushing the culture full star

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<v Speaker 4>Otherwise it would just be one tough critic, a harsh

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<v Speaker 4>I know, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>We do not need to deep dive on all of

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<v Speaker 1>these I just I'm going to a few of them. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Almost Famous two and a half stars.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you on that movie. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>movie kind of poopy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm almost famous, Okay, Ace Ventura one and a half stars.

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<v Speaker 1>The Mask a point five star, John Wick point five star,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the same rated Sharknado. You also gave half

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<v Speaker 1>a star to Heat.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I'm the big anti Heat. I have

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<v Speaker 2>opinions about that.

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<v Speaker 1>You're also anti Scarface. You gave one star Big one star?

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<v Speaker 1>What No, No, No, that's wrong Big.

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<v Speaker 2>It says Big. That's why. No, but Big should be

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<v Speaker 2>five stars. I love Big. I just rewatch it with Indy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a mistake. That's a mistake, a huge mistake.

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<v Speaker 3>No, Biggest is way up there. Why didn't you like

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<v Speaker 3>John Wick? I'm just curious. I never finished it. If

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<v Speaker 3>I gave it half a star, it means I usually

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<v Speaker 3>didn't finish the movie. I think the first twenty minutes

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<v Speaker 3>of John Wicker amazing, and then when I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>oh he's we're just the fun of this movie is

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<v Speaker 3>just a ballet of violence.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just watching him shoot people in the head. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't care.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, it's just John Wu. It's bringing back the

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<v Speaker 4>Asian film did you like do you like John Wu

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<v Speaker 4>stuff and all that the kind of old school Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I've ever seen that much.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't like just like fun killing movies, Like

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, kill Bill one is like the most

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<v Speaker 3>boring thing in the world to me. Kill Bill two

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<v Speaker 3>finally has some story. But like I know that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>on the outside of most people on that, Like I

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<v Speaker 3>just don't love Like, like I said, I totally tap out.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did you give rat Tattuui one star? That's a

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<v Speaker 2>good question. I need to watch it. I'm not a fan.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it is one of the most awkward.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, like you know, there's always with world building, and

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<v Speaker 3>especially with Pixar world building, there's like there's a buy

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<v Speaker 3>in factor, right, And like I think with Ratituey there

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<v Speaker 3>was a fundamental buy in problem with him puppeteering a

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<v Speaker 3>chef with his It never worked for it, Like I

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<v Speaker 3>just could never buy in. And I know that they

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<v Speaker 3>had lots of problems with that script and with that director,

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<v Speaker 3>like they and and it feels it feels like a

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<v Speaker 3>cheat to me.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>The moment the chef has the flashback to his childhood

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<v Speaker 3>where he tastes ratatuy is such a phenomenal cinematic moment.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think it would have been an awesome twenty

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<v Speaker 3>minute short film, like it would have been just a

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<v Speaker 3>ate twenty minute short film. Patton Oswald I love so,

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<v Speaker 3>I love his voice, so there's lots to be loved.

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<v Speaker 3>But I need to revisit it because it's the one

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<v Speaker 3>Pixar I haven't watched with Indy, Like we've watched all

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<v Speaker 3>of them otherwise, and I usually love them, but Ratitude

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<v Speaker 3>is not up there.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you like UP? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I did like UP, but I also don't love I

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<v Speaker 3>love Iron Giant, but I don't love it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Brad Bird as the director.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't love his characterization, Like his animated characters are

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<v Speaker 3>a little too extreme for just my taste, like aesthetically,

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<v Speaker 3>and like I don't like the way people look in Ratituey.

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<v Speaker 3>There's something off about it for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I just writer. Would you like to let

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<v Speaker 1>anyone know where they can find you on letterboxed?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm just rather strong or strong and it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's public.

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<v Speaker 6>So no.

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<v Speaker 3>I recently was connected with one of my like film

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<v Speaker 3>nerd friends and she was so nice in her stars.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, because you can see where somebody puts

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<v Speaker 3>their average, you know, like and like everyone. She gives

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<v Speaker 3>three stars and I am like just extreme, Like if

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<v Speaker 3>I like it, I go five.

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<v Speaker 2>If I don't have a.

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<v Speaker 6>Star, one star.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So yeah, okay, I think that that's fun because

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<v Speaker 3>the point is to spark debate and conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah right, I can't wait to have lunch with you

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<v Speaker 4>again because our entire lunch is going to be talking

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<v Speaker 4>about heat.

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<v Speaker 2>So why you're so anti?

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you what I've been doing, the secret project

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<v Speaker 3>that I've been doing for years now. I have this

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<v Speaker 3>weird habit of writing poems. It's based on movies, based

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<v Speaker 3>on either they're like biographic, but they're like super formal,

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<v Speaker 3>like I'll write like sonnets or villain l's. Like I

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<v Speaker 3>give myself this challenge of like, all right, let's take

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<v Speaker 3>a movie that I.

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<v Speaker 2>Love and I don't know why this is happened.

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<v Speaker 3>So maybe someday I'll start posting those as my reviews

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<v Speaker 3>on letter box A different question.

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<v Speaker 1>Great idea, And also will I encourage you to start

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<v Speaker 1>a letterboxed because I think between you and writer and

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<v Speaker 1>the way you guys feel feel about movies. This would

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<v Speaker 1>just one we have endless pre show chatter, and two

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to sit down at the table and

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<v Speaker 1>hear your different takes on these things. So anyway, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you writer for letting us bring some of those up

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<v Speaker 1>and defending some of your hot takes. And I want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk more about downsizing when we're not on the air.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Pod meets World. I'm Daniel Fischel, I'm Rider Strong,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm Wilfredell. There is one film we do all

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<v Speaker 1>agree on, and that's the nineteen ninety four ABC movie

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<v Speaker 1>Summertime Switch, something we recently recapped right before we started

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<v Speaker 1>season three, starring our harsh critic over here, right or Strong,

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<v Speaker 1>and our guest this week, Jason Weaver. We couldn't help

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<v Speaker 1>but notice Jason was leaps and bounds above everyone else

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<v Speaker 1>in the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Rider obviously encouraged to improv, sing, dance, play basketball, and

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<v Speaker 1>act circles around his peers and for good reason. Best

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<v Speaker 1>known as Marcus Henderson on the wb sitcom Smart Guy,

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<v Speaker 1>a teenage Michael Jackson on the nineteen ninety two Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>mini series, and the singing voice of young Simba in

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<v Speaker 1>Disney's Lion King.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about a movie, right, it's some of his later work.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to now rattle off a star of drum

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<v Speaker 1>line with Nick Cannon. He appeared in the Coen Brothers

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<v Speaker 1>comedy Lady Killers the two thousand and six film atl

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<v Speaker 1>alongside rappers t I and Big Boy, and most impressively

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<v Speaker 1>singing the hook on One Call Away, a top five

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<v Speaker 1>chingy hit single in the United States. And today we

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<v Speaker 1>are going to focus on his true moment of artistry,

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<v Speaker 1>the Citizen Kane of identity mix up movies that involve

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<v Speaker 1>bull from Night Court, Summertime Switch. It's time for the

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<v Speaker 1>reunion you've been waiting for, right or Strong? May I

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<v Speaker 1>welcome your camp buddy and fellow Freddie Egan Jason Weaver

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<v Speaker 1>to Pod meets World.

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<v Speaker 2>How's it coming?

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<v Speaker 6>Man?

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<v Speaker 3>Then?

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<v Speaker 6>Terrific? How are you doing that?

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<v Speaker 2>How are you guys doing We're all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this the first time you guys have seen each

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<v Speaker 1>other since Summertime Switch?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the time Switch. Yeah, it's been that long since

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<v Speaker 6>that that hot summer in Jacksonville.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so hot, it was so hot, it was

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<v Speaker 3>you have to dig ditches in the heat. I was

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<v Speaker 3>actually we were at like some boy scout camp. I

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<v Speaker 3>forget where we were. You were at the like luxury side,

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<v Speaker 3>so but.

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<v Speaker 6>I had all the luxury you were, you were dealing

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<v Speaker 6>with all the crap.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and see Jason, how how hounded were you on

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<v Speaker 1>social media by pod meets World listeners the day the

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<v Speaker 1>Summertime Switch podcast was released?

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<v Speaker 6>Yo, it was crazy because, you know, because we're all

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<v Speaker 6>like shut down. Everybody's you know, down for the strike

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<v Speaker 6>or whatever, so you just have all this kind of

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<v Speaker 6>idle time, you know, and things and other things that

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<v Speaker 6>we're doing and developing what you guys have with the podcast.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm just sitting, you know, just working on some

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<v Speaker 6>other projects, and all of a sudden, I just see

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<v Speaker 6>all these notifications coming through. So I'm like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 6>what did I do? What did I say? Oh no,

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<v Speaker 6>something's happening. And then when I looked, I was pleasantly

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<v Speaker 6>surprised to see you know, all the fans of you

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<v Speaker 6>guys podcast just you know, tagging me and let me

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<v Speaker 6>let me know that you all were, you know, covering

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<v Speaker 6>Summertime Switching. You know, I'm just glad that we got

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<v Speaker 6>an opportunity to do this. I will say though, that

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<v Speaker 6>you guys, fans are relentless, man like they are all

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<v Speaker 6>a joke.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let me tell you something.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever we mentioned someone on the podcast or we do

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<v Speaker 1>we do an episode that involves a guest actor or

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<v Speaker 1>something from Boy Meets World, a few people will tag them.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen a fan reaction quite like the reaction

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<v Speaker 1>to you. You are so loved. You have so many fans,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean hundreds of people.

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<v Speaker 6>Jason.

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<v Speaker 2>We were j we we were like, okay, great, we promise,

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<v Speaker 2>we will. We will.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and I appreciate it. Gods, sorry about that, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>my uh. You know that the people that have followed

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<v Speaker 6>my career throughout the years, and you guys know this,

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<v Speaker 6>you all experienced this as well. I mean, there's such

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<v Speaker 6>a strong connection with those people because in our own

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<v Speaker 6>little way, we've kind of all grown up together, although

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<v Speaker 6>we don't, you know, really know each other personally, but

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<v Speaker 6>there's a there's just this connection there. So when you know,

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<v Speaker 6>when they see one of their favorite personalities or celebrities

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<v Speaker 6>or childless celebrities that they that they love growing up,

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<v Speaker 6>and there's this opportunity to build a reconnection or establish

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<v Speaker 6>a reconnection if you will, and just have a moment

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<v Speaker 6>where we look back in retrospect and just you know,

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<v Speaker 6>show appreciation and gratitude just for how we all have

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<v Speaker 6>been blessed and been able to connect with so many people,

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<v Speaker 6>in touch so many people's lives. Man, you just got

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<v Speaker 6>to jump at that opportunity. So, you know, my fans,

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<v Speaker 6>I will say, we're pretty aggressive, but I think for

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<v Speaker 6>doing that, because it's it's great being here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we're so happy you're here.

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<v Speaker 1>Jason did what do you remember specifically about filming Summertime Switch?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you mentioned the hot Jacksonville. What is your

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<v Speaker 1>overall memory of the movie.

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<v Speaker 6>I really just remember I remember having a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 6>It was kind of just like it it felt like

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<v Speaker 6>taking a summer break, but yet you were working and

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<v Speaker 6>just having that experience of working with so many talented

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<v Speaker 6>child actors at that time. I mean, and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>when I say talented, that's kind of an understatement. You

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<v Speaker 6>know a lot of those a lot of the kids

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<v Speaker 6>that are on that show were seasoned actors by that time.

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<v Speaker 6>It been in you know, a few films, and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>just really understood how to conduct themselves professionally on set,

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<v Speaker 6>how to you know, how to show up being prepared.

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<v Speaker 6>You know. It was really one of those kind of

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<v Speaker 6>all star summer camp kind of things for give the kids,

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<v Speaker 6>if you will, in the art so to be able

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<v Speaker 6>to you know, share that moment with everybody. Although we

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<v Speaker 6>were in most of the time in one hundred degree

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<v Speaker 6>plus heat, you know, although those were kind of circumstances,

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<v Speaker 6>I think we were all just you know, we had

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<v Speaker 6>that youthful adrenaline. You know, I think we all recognized

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<v Speaker 6>that this was a unique moment in all of our lives.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I think it's kids, all of us when

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<v Speaker 6>we're in that moment at that time, you know, we're

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<v Speaker 6>just kind of we're kind of there. I don't think

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<v Speaker 6>we have any kind of preak and sived ideas to

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<v Speaker 6>where we're gonna go next, and we have some kind

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<v Speaker 6>of strategy as to where we're going to take our

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<v Speaker 6>careers moving forward forward. We're kind of just in that

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<v Speaker 6>moment in processing everything and having fun at the same time. So,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, that was my That was my experience as well.

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<v Speaker 6>You know with Summertime Switch, it was you know, me

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<v Speaker 6>and Wrter, although we really didn't get a chance to

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<v Speaker 6>work on a lot of scenes together because we were

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<v Speaker 6>shooting in you know, two separate you know, different kind

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<v Speaker 6>of scenarios, if you will, But the moments that we

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<v Speaker 6>did have that you know, allowed us to come together

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<v Speaker 6>and work together and and hang out. It was It

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<v Speaker 6>was great, one of the more rewarding experiences when I

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<v Speaker 6>look back, you know, of my career. I'll be completely

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<v Speaker 6>honest with you. I didn't I know that film was

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<v Speaker 6>going to become as popular it become like a childhood

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<v Speaker 6>classics as it did. As we were making the movie,

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, Okay, they're going to put this out

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<v Speaker 6>on ABC, and that's going to do that. Yeah, it's gone,

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<v Speaker 6>and you know whatever. But it ended up being, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>one of those films that connected with kids who have

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<v Speaker 6>now turned into adults who are just fanatical about it.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>When was the last time you watched it?

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<v Speaker 6>Ooh, it's funny. I was hanging out with Okay, this

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<v Speaker 6>is gonna sound bad, but I was hanging out with

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<v Speaker 6>some friends. We were drinking one night at a friend's

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<v Speaker 6>barbecue at their house, and there were some people there,

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<v Speaker 6>some relatives who flew out of town or who came

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<v Speaker 6>from out of town.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, they were really really nice, but they were

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<v Speaker 6>excited to see me. They were fans of my work.

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<v Speaker 6>And the gentleman, the husband of the couple, he was like, Man, Man,

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<v Speaker 6>I hope I don't embarrass you by saying this, but

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<v Speaker 6>you know, one of my favorite movies that you've ever

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<v Speaker 6>been part of, The Summertime Switch. Man. It's like, oh great,

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<v Speaker 6>you know cool, glad you liked the film. Man. He's like, Man,

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<v Speaker 6>as a matter of fact, hold on, this is one

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<v Speaker 6>of my favorite parts. It goes to like YouTube and

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<v Speaker 6>up and it just starts looking at it. So all

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<v Speaker 6>of a sudden, you know, after watching a couple like

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<v Speaker 6>scenes or excerpts that they had, they just went about

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<v Speaker 6>finding a whole movie so that everybody could watch it

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<v Speaker 6>because it was like kids started to walk in and

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<v Speaker 6>then it became like a gamy thing. Yeah, first it's

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<v Speaker 6>craving off, kind of awkward, I will not lie. And

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, oh my god, this guy's really about

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<v Speaker 6>to put scenes off of this movie I did years ago.

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<v Speaker 6>But it ended up being a beautiful moment with you know,

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<v Speaker 6>all these kids coming into the room and just you know,

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<v Speaker 6>this family having a moment with me watching this film.

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<v Speaker 6>So it was dope.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, Now I know you mentioned that you guys really

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get to work together too much because you were

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<v Speaker 1>in you know, kind of competing storylines. Really, but do

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<v Speaker 1>you remember your first impressions of each other?

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<v Speaker 3>Writer?

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<v Speaker 2>If you want, do you remember your first impression of Jason?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well, like I said, I it's funny because I

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<v Speaker 3>googled you this morning. We're exactly the same age, but

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<v Speaker 3>in my mind you were so much older than me.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, yes, dude, you can't.

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<v Speaker 3>You were so mature and so professional in a way

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<v Speaker 3>that like I just I felt like I had no

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<v Speaker 3>idea what I was doing, and you just had so

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<v Speaker 3>much more experience. I don't know, I mean, I guess

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<v Speaker 3>maybe the music, and like you just were so tapped

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<v Speaker 3>into like you knew exactly who you were and what you.

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<v Speaker 2>Were doing in a way that like I just was flailing.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just remember looking up to you and like

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<v Speaker 3>I think, and.

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<v Speaker 2>You were the coolest person I'd ever met.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I remember good conversations, but like we didn't

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<v Speaker 3>get to work together that much. I just I do

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<v Speaker 3>remember you correcting my basketball skills, because like our main

0:21:58.640 --> 0:21:59.600
<v Speaker 3>scene skills were.

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<v Speaker 6>As I was breaking, as I was breaking everything, as

0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:09.240
<v Speaker 6>I was having horrible shooting percentage that day. Man, Man,

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<v Speaker 6>thank you so much for sharing those kind words. Man,

0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:15.159
<v Speaker 6>I mean, you know, the sentiments that you express, Man,

0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:18.080
<v Speaker 6>it's mutual, man uh, and the feeling is mutual. I

0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:21.200
<v Speaker 6>walked on to that set with such a high level

0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:24.399
<v Speaker 6>of respect, you know, for everybody that was involved in

0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:28.000
<v Speaker 6>that film, and especially you. I mean, it's you know,

0:22:28.080 --> 0:22:31.200
<v Speaker 6>it's it's hard to carry a film, you know, even

0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:34.280
<v Speaker 6>as an adult. You know, there's a lot of responsibility.

0:22:34.280 --> 0:22:37.160
<v Speaker 6>It's placed on your shoulders. You know, the actual work

0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:41.159
<v Speaker 6>scheduling itself is pretty intense. So you know, when I

0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:44.680
<v Speaker 6>saw you handling it the way that you did and

0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:48.640
<v Speaker 6>and just being just as genuine as you as you were,

0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:52.040
<v Speaker 6>and it's still how you are now, I mean, that

0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:55.880
<v Speaker 6>was the one thing that really, you know, hit home

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<v Speaker 6>me because I'm very uh a p person, if you will,

0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:03.159
<v Speaker 6>and and I'm very sensitive to energy. I've come to

0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:06.560
<v Speaker 6>recognize that now as I've gotten older, but as a kid,

0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:09.400
<v Speaker 6>I was even even more hyper sensitive to it. Now,

0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:11.919
<v Speaker 6>I just remember every time I was around you, I

0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:15.439
<v Speaker 6>just felt just a genuine, real energy. And you're always

0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:19.359
<v Speaker 6>sincere and always polite, same with you, very professional, you know,

0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:21.320
<v Speaker 6>I think that's what made me kind of be on

0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:23.879
<v Speaker 6>my p's and q's is just you know, realizing that

0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:28.439
<v Speaker 6>you're working opposite of seasoned actors. We were kids, but

0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:31.280
<v Speaker 6>you know, we weren't playing around. It was. It was

0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:33.600
<v Speaker 6>one of those kind of situations where we all came

0:23:33.640 --> 0:23:36.640
<v Speaker 6>into it just knowing what our roles were and knowing

0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:37.480
<v Speaker 6>what we had to do.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, and everybody was coming off of a movie

0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:42.400
<v Speaker 3>or a series. You know, you had like Sole Moon, fright,

0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:46.119
<v Speaker 3>you had Patrick off of Sandlot, like everybody had like

0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:47.480
<v Speaker 3>a resume at that point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it could have gone off the rails very easily.

0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:53.399
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you you get that many teenagers into a

0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:57.040
<v Speaker 3>hotel situation, like, but we, as far as.

0:23:56.880 --> 0:24:00.000
<v Speaker 2>I know, it went really smoothly. Nobody, nobody had.

0:23:59.880 --> 0:24:07.920
<v Speaker 6>A nobody got arrested. Trauma, There was no trauma. Yeah,

0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:11.560
<v Speaker 6>it was pretty cool. There were no ego trips, you know,

0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:14.600
<v Speaker 6>the rare occasions I think where we were all able

0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:17.760
<v Speaker 6>to kind of hang out once we wrapped from set,

0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:19.640
<v Speaker 6>you know, depending upon if we had an early call

0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:22.399
<v Speaker 6>time the next day. You know, I even remember those times.

0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:25.359
<v Speaker 6>It just it was just us as kids just having

0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:28.080
<v Speaker 6>fun and being in the moment, and you know, I've

0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:31.760
<v Speaker 6>really been blessed throughout my life to have so many

0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:34.959
<v Speaker 6>experiences like that throughout the course of my career, but

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<v Speaker 6>Summertime Switch was definitely a highlight, most most most definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so they at what point did you get involved

0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:44.720
<v Speaker 2>in the project, because it seems they clearly created are

0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:48.040
<v Speaker 2>they either changed the character to be for you or

0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:51.119
<v Speaker 2>it was written specifically for you because it takes advantage

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:52.640
<v Speaker 2>of all of your talents.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, it's so crazy because it's just that whole ABC,

0:24:58.160 --> 0:25:01.960
<v Speaker 6>you know, family thing. So you know, I was, I

0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:07.199
<v Speaker 6>think when I when I came on to a Summertime Switch,

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:13.040
<v Speaker 6>I just finished working on the show called Thea that

0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:16.360
<v Speaker 6>was on a BBC. Now, mind, we only did one season.

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:19.639
<v Speaker 6>We weren't as successful as you guys were, just you know,

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:23.040
<v Speaker 6>we were just went season for season. But from what

0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:26.480
<v Speaker 6>I remember, I made a really good impression with the

0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:30.960
<v Speaker 6>executives at ABC because they knew that, you know, I

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:32.880
<v Speaker 6>was going to come and do my job and uh

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:35.080
<v Speaker 6>and on top of that, the I was kind of

0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 6>riding that wave of the you know, teenage heart thing,

0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:43.240
<v Speaker 6>the childhood crushing, they're the heart throb thing. You know,

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:45.199
<v Speaker 6>I was in the right on magazines and the world up.

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:47.280
<v Speaker 6>So there was a there was an audience, I think

0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:49.560
<v Speaker 6>as well the demographic that I think they were trying

0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:52.399
<v Speaker 6>to bring to the film, which I was, you know,

0:25:52.640 --> 0:25:55.640
<v Speaker 6>able to I guess spring and uh and it all

0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:57.480
<v Speaker 6>worked out. And so when I when I found out

0:25:57.520 --> 0:25:59.960
<v Speaker 6>about it, it was like right after the cancel, A

0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:03.639
<v Speaker 6>I believe in our show. And I went back to Chicago,

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 6>and then I got a call, you know, from my

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:08.199
<v Speaker 6>agent letting me know that there was this, you know,

0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:10.639
<v Speaker 6>offer to come and be a part of this film.

0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:13.119
<v Speaker 6>And so I jumped at the opportunity because you know,

0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:16.000
<v Speaker 6>I wanted to continue to work and U And once

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:18.240
<v Speaker 6>I found out all the other talent that was attached

0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:20.199
<v Speaker 6>to it, I was like, Man, this is once in

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:22.679
<v Speaker 6>a lifetime thing. You know, what are the chances you

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:24.800
<v Speaker 6>get to work with you and you know, with Patrick

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:26.880
<v Speaker 6>and Salaymon Fry and all these people, rich and mall,

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:28.160
<v Speaker 6>so you know, it's dope.

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:30.639
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if anybody auditioned for the movie or if

0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 2>they just completely yeah, that was what they do.

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:38.520
<v Speaker 3>And I wonder, like, because Isaac Letzky was coming off

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:44.080
<v Speaker 3>of Saved by the new Class. Yeah, everybody, And like

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:46.720
<v Speaker 3>Richard Mall, like, I bet you they just completely cast

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 3>this thing without a single audition, you know, like yeah.

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:56.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, rightfully. So, I mean because again everybody came to set.

0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:59.000
<v Speaker 6>You know, there was there was little amount of risk

0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:01.600
<v Speaker 6>I think from a production sign or from a producer

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:04.359
<v Speaker 6>sign at network executive side. You know, they knew what

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:05.800
<v Speaker 6>they were they knew what they were getting.

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:09.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's what they do is and you know, even

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:11.679
<v Speaker 4>NBC back in the day, we talked about this. You

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:13.439
<v Speaker 4>know in the eighties, they would take all their talent

0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:15.320
<v Speaker 4>that they you know, all the young talent of the day,

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:17.119
<v Speaker 4>and they would make a movie the Week essentially, is

0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:19.359
<v Speaker 4>what they would do. And ABC what they what you

0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 4>would find for a lot of these things were these

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 4>were scripts that somebody tried to sell as a feature

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 4>and somebody then didn't want to put a whole bunch

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 4>of money into it, or they didn't think it could

0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:32.359
<v Speaker 4>it could really open in theaters everywhere. So they go, well,

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:33.880
<v Speaker 4>wait a minute, this is a great idea. We'll take

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 4>all of our young talent and we'll do it cheaper,

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 4>and we'll do it as a movie of the week.

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:40.439
<v Speaker 4>And they would that's what they do. They just started pumping.

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:43.080
<v Speaker 4>So that started really big in the seventies and the eighties,

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:46.640
<v Speaker 4>and this was what ninety five, you guys are forty.

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:50.160
<v Speaker 4>So it's just starting to wane at this point where

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 4>they're like, oh well, this still costs a lot of

0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:54.879
<v Speaker 4>money and we you know, so by like ninety seven

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 4>they were kind of gone. But this was a staple

0:27:57.640 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 4>of TV for twenty twenty five years. Let's take our talent,

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:02.960
<v Speaker 4>let's take some money, let's throw some money at it,

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 4>and let's do a movie of the week. So this

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:06.360
<v Speaker 4>is like, you guys are right, you might be one

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:09.120
<v Speaker 4>of the last of exactly what you're saying, where it's

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 4>like we're gonna offer all of our talent, Let's get

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 4>this person, let's get that person, Let's get this person

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 4>and just throw them all together and do a fun

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:18.680
<v Speaker 4>hijinks kind of romp. So yeah, that's television royalty. That's

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 4>that was around forever. Yeah, you know, and those were those.

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 6>Are fun days too, I mean, because you know, there

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:26.919
<v Speaker 6>was there was a structure there where you could you

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:29.160
<v Speaker 6>could be funneled into the next thing if you will,

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 6>you know what I mean, based upon the kind of

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:34.000
<v Speaker 6>work and relationship that you had with that network or

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 6>with that production company. There were so many different opportunities

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 6>that you could kind of just easily transition to, you know,

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 6>like that. So no, I think we were the last

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:46.320
<v Speaker 6>of the mohigue is if you will, when it came

0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:49.520
<v Speaker 6>to that, you know, those those family movies of the

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 6>weeks and you know, the collective cast coming together and

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:57.120
<v Speaker 6>uh and tapping into that particular demographic that they were targeting. Yeah.

0:28:57.240 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you had a lot of scenes Jason with Richard

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Mall in the camp kitchen.

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:03.680
<v Speaker 2>He has a little bit of like a little of it.

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:07.479
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of a ridiculous accent. We were discus, like

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:10.560
<v Speaker 2>a real accent. What do you remember about working with him?

0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 6>You know what? It was funny because I was so

0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 6>starstruck We're working with him, To be honest with you,

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 6>was all a blur because I was a big Night

0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 6>Court fan.

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh me too, me too.

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 6>So you know when I when I found out I

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 6>was doing scenes with him, I think I was just

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:32.320
<v Speaker 6>so focused on making sure that I didn't mess up,

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 6>you know, because I knew this guy was like you know,

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 6>veteran actors been working since the eighties, probably longer than that.

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 6>And again, I'm a kid in a professional adult setting,

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 6>so I'm just sitting there like, you know, let me

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 6>just make sure I just bang out these scenes, and

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:50.959
<v Speaker 6>you know, I don't want to hold the director up.

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 6>I think that was another thing I was so kind

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 6>of aware of in the back of my mind is

0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 6>I didn't want a lot of time being taken shooting

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 6>my stuff, as I knew that I was, you know,

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 6>being given an opportunity, and I didn't want to be

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:06.960
<v Speaker 6>known as one of those actors that took like multiple takes,

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:08.920
<v Speaker 6>you know, to get it right. So I was all

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 6>about at that time being like, okay, let me just

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 6>be all point. Okay, take this direction, keep it moving

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:16.040
<v Speaker 6>it so you know, oh my god, dude.

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 2>That is you know what's funny about that?

0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 3>That is so not what comes across and really come

0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 3>across so comfortable and relaxed in a way that like

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 3>I am clearly not like, yeah, we just rewatched it.

0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 3>You are so good in this movie. It like I

0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 3>blew my mind. I was watching.

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh my god, he's got like real scenes.

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like the second half of the movie is like

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:39.960
<v Speaker 3>a real emotional arc for you and it's good. It's

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 3>like honest in a way that's like relaxed, and it

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:45.880
<v Speaker 3>does not feel like you are having any pressure. It

0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 3>feels like you're just totally and then of course you

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 3>get up and you like sing and dance and do

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 3>a whole number there too. It's like, oh, oh, Jason

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 3>was in like a real movie. I was I don't

0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:57.760
<v Speaker 3>know what I was doing that garbage getting dumped on me,

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 3>but you were like acting and like, p It's awesome, dude.

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 2>It does not come across like eure uptight or scared

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 2>at all. It's great.

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 6>There was always something. I really appreciate you saying that,

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 6>because there was always something that was kind of thrown

0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 6>on the plate at the last minute, like that scene

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 6>of performing, Yeah, I performed the song. I think they

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 6>had just found out that I signed a deal with

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:26.520
<v Speaker 6>Motown Records, and I think, yeah, and I've been I

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 6>think I had done the line king already. Yeah, So

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 6>so they were they were aware of that and they

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 6>were like, oh man, it'd be just great if you

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 6>could just have a song and there signed. I remember

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 6>we recorded that at the last minute. So even with that,

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:40.800
<v Speaker 6>it was it was a lot. I was like, oh,

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:43.760
<v Speaker 6>my god, I gotta play basketball, I gotta act and

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 6>I got to sing it.

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 2>Yes, they put it all on you man, it's incredible. Yeah, yeah,

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:50.920
<v Speaker 2>but it was.

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 6>It was fun. We had a good time, and you

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 6>know that, to go back to what what Will was

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 6>saying to I think they they knew too that it

0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 6>was going to be successful because we were essentially what

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 6>we did was a kids version of like Trading Places. Yeah,

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 6>you know what I mean, like that, That's pretty much

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 6>what it was. So, you know, I think the natural

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 6>feel if people saw that, you know, as as viewers.

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 6>And I've never told anybody this, but I played a

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 6>lot of that from like Eddie's Trading Places because I

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 6>saw that film and I remember when I read the script,

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 6>I was like, oh man, this is this is Eddie,

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:32.120
<v Speaker 6>so like just kind of do Eddie, don't do Eddie Edie.

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 6>So it worked out and if people loved it, man,

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 6>I'm just so so honored and so blessed.

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 1>That I wasn't like to be signed to Motown so

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:46.240
<v Speaker 1>young incredible.

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:50.240
<v Speaker 6>I signed to them right after I worked on the

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 6>Jackson's mini series, The Jackson's in American Dream, where I

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 6>played Michael Jackson and you know, it was kind of

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:01.880
<v Speaker 6>just a natural, a natural thing that took place. The

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:04.720
<v Speaker 6>CEO of Motown at that time got rest his soul.

0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 6>Mister Gerald Busby was always present on set as we

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 6>were shooting that mini series because all of the music

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:16.560
<v Speaker 6>that we were doing, you know, it was Motown, Motown owned,

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 6>so they really wanted to make sure that the music

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 6>in the catalog was being represented properly. So, you know,

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 6>just after I guess months of establishing a rapport with

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:30.000
<v Speaker 6>one another and him seeing he kind of displayed my

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:32.240
<v Speaker 6>talent day in the day out on set, that singing

0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 6>and all of that, I just got this offer to

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:40.320
<v Speaker 6>record with them. I recorded one album with Motown. It

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:43.960
<v Speaker 6>was called Love Ambition. At that time, it was not

0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 6>commercially successful. It wasn't like one of those albums are

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 6>R and B albums that came out in the nineties

0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 6>that you know, just kind of blew up and went

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 6>out of control. But the single, which was the title

0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 6>for the album as well, Love Ambition, especially in my

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:02.719
<v Speaker 6>hometown Io, became kind of like a classic hit and

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:05.880
<v Speaker 6>what what we at home called a steppers classic hit,

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:10.160
<v Speaker 6>and stepping is something it's like, it's couples dancing in Chicago,

0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:15.719
<v Speaker 6>very elegant, very refined, very soulful. So my song has

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:20.360
<v Speaker 6>lived like for thirty years in that space and in

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 6>the step of set strictly in Chicago. And now it's

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:27.320
<v Speaker 6>like making this you know, resurging or what have you,

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:30.279
<v Speaker 6>and making people kind of go back and look at

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:33.360
<v Speaker 6>my career with Motown. And so it's just really interesting

0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:35.640
<v Speaker 6>right now. I think, just I think for all of

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 6>us that you know, we have these these people who

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 6>have admired our work for so long in a fan

0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 6>base has admired our work for so long, to where

0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 6>now we can we can look back and and be

0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:47.399
<v Speaker 6>you know, I know we were proud at the time

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:49.239
<v Speaker 6>of what we did, but you know, even now as

0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:53.239
<v Speaker 6>adults and understanding uh fully the moments that we were

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:55.880
<v Speaker 6>in and be able to look back in retrospect and

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:58.759
<v Speaker 6>to share those moments with fans and and you know,

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 6>to laugh about them and in the cheer about him

0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 6>and even at times to cry about those moments together.

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 6>It's just awesome. So that my experience with Motown is

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:07.760
<v Speaker 6>that as well.

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Writer said he remembered that you had so many great

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Michael Jackson stories from I mean working with him to

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 1>play him must have been absolutely surreal.

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 6>Oh, it was. It was. That was that was another

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:25.440
<v Speaker 6>you know situation where it was a lot of pressure.

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:29.239
<v Speaker 6>That was another ABC show. But that was another thing

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 6>I did with them, and uh man, I just remember,

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:36.440
<v Speaker 6>you know, there was just so much there were so

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 6>many eyeballs on just even when we were just in

0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:42.879
<v Speaker 6>production it's doing principal photography, you know, because at that time,

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:46.760
<v Speaker 6>Michael Jackson and the Jackson family, it was just pandemonium.

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 6>You know, He's like the biggest star in the world

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 6>at that time, and so that pressure, you know, for

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 6>the fan base alone and wanting to know who's playing

0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:57.200
<v Speaker 6>him and if they were going to do justice to

0:35:57.239 --> 0:35:59.800
<v Speaker 6>the role. And you know, and even though you're a kid,

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 6>you know, these people don't care. All they know is

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:05.640
<v Speaker 6>Michael Jackson and they just wanted to be portrayed the

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:08.680
<v Speaker 6>right way or the way they think he should. Yeah,

0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:12.160
<v Speaker 6>so it was it was. It was a lot, but

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 6>it was a lot of rehearsal, a lot of preparation,

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 6>a lot of support from people in production, a lot

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:22.440
<v Speaker 6>of support from my mother, a lot of support from

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 6>the other parents who had kids that were working on

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:28.320
<v Speaker 6>the show, a lot of support from the Jackson family,

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 6>from Michael himself, So that took a little bit of

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 6>the pressure off on a little bit of the strength.

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:35.960
<v Speaker 4>It would be a little bit, but geez, I mean,

0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:39.120
<v Speaker 4>I mean, he's he's arguably one of the most famous

0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:41.879
<v Speaker 4>human beings in the history of the world.

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, literally, yeah from yeah, I mean up there

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:46.240
<v Speaker 2>like literally.

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 4>So it's one of those things where it's like, oh,

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:49.719
<v Speaker 4>but how old were you when you were playing him?

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:51.800
<v Speaker 6>I was, what twelve thirteen?

0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:53.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so yeah, no pressure, there you go.

0:36:55.080 --> 0:36:57.040
<v Speaker 4>And now wait, you said that they signed you because

0:36:57.040 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 4>of this, So were you actually singing all the songs?

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't It wasn't like lip syncing you were. You

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 4>were singing all the songs.

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:06.839
<v Speaker 6>Now, I was actually singing the material. Now that the

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:11.279
<v Speaker 6>Motown the Motown stuff was actually the original recordings that

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 6>Michael did, the pre Motown stuff prior to them getting

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:19.440
<v Speaker 6>signed to Motown. When they performed at the Apollo, the

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:22.799
<v Speaker 6>Regal Theater would have you their their Motown audition. I

0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:23.760
<v Speaker 6>sang all that stuff.

0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:24.279
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:29.440
<v Speaker 6>And the only time that I sang a Motown song

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:34.799
<v Speaker 6>was it was Who's Loving You? And I had to

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 6>sing that live that day. Because the pre recorded track

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 6>or the track that they had, they couldn't get clearance

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 6>from the Motown Music publishing company at that time. So

0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 6>the day that we were shooting, I actually had to

0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 6>sing it, and so I'm singing it live. And it

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:57.880
<v Speaker 6>was that day that I got the role for the

0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 6>Lion King because unbeknownst to me, Elton John had come

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:06.279
<v Speaker 6>through the set that day just like visitings and just

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:09.759
<v Speaker 6>so happened to see were performing. He was only there

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:13.920
<v Speaker 6>for a brief minute, I believe, but he showed up

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 6>as I was performing. I didn't even get a chance

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:20.440
<v Speaker 6>to see him or meet him. And when we wrapped

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:22.360
<v Speaker 6>from set that day, my mom came up to me

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:24.719
<v Speaker 6>and was like, yo, man, guess who I just had

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:27.160
<v Speaker 6>a brief conversation with and you know he complimented you

0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:29.800
<v Speaker 6>on your performance. I was like who, It's like Elton John.

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:32.680
<v Speaker 6>I was like, okay, cool, cool, because you know, at

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:35.320
<v Speaker 6>that time, all I'm listening to is you know, Bell Bivdevo.

0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:38.200
<v Speaker 6>You audition like you know, I.

0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:43.399
<v Speaker 3>Really you're playing Michael Jackson Elton John.

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 6>It's like okay cool. So you know, she tells me

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 6>that he wants me to audition for this this new

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 6>animated movie that he's doing with Disney called The Lion King.

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:57.799
<v Speaker 6>You know, he explained him and Tim Rice put this

0:38:57.840 --> 0:39:01.759
<v Speaker 6>thing together and she good forward if I auditioned, So

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:04.560
<v Speaker 6>I did, and that's and that's how that whole thing

0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 6>came about. Man like, unbelieva again, it's just just blessings.

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:11.200
<v Speaker 6>Man Like. You guys know, I mean, you know, we've

0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:16.040
<v Speaker 6>we've had something. I mean, no, you guys, you guys

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:19.760
<v Speaker 6>want to hit show were real for real. You guys

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:22.080
<v Speaker 6>were with the crew that we were all looking at

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:25.279
<v Speaker 6>as kids who on sitcoms and hoping we could get

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 6>a gig like that.

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 3>Like you guys go that is like it doesn't and

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:32.960
<v Speaker 3>you can start planning around it.

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:33.279
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:35.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because when you did The Lion King, that's like

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 2>one day or two days in the studio and then

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:38.839
<v Speaker 2>you're done. The job is you did.

0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 6>But you guys are coming to work every day, hanging

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:44.319
<v Speaker 6>with each other. That that was something that you know,

0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:46.759
<v Speaker 6>I always admired about you all show. On top of

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:48.480
<v Speaker 6>the fact that it was a really good show.

0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:49.720
<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:51.919
<v Speaker 1>I just want to ask you one more question about

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 1>did you you said that Michael was really supportive of

0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 1>you did he have any advice for you on how

0:39:57.560 --> 0:39:58.480
<v Speaker 1>best to play him?

0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:00.040
<v Speaker 2>Like, what was Michael's advice to you?

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:06.400
<v Speaker 5>The only advice that I ever received from Michael regarding

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 5>the role, because mind you, when we were shooting it,

0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:12.880
<v Speaker 5>he was actually overseas in Europe.

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:17.040
<v Speaker 6>Doing the Dangerous Tour, okay, so he really wasn't like

0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:19.640
<v Speaker 6>present like that on the set, but he would see

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 6>like the dailies, and you know, he would send notes

0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:26.920
<v Speaker 6>if he had any, which were very rare. And I

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 6>think the one thing that he told Michael Peters, God

0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:32.759
<v Speaker 6>rest his soul as well, who was our choreographer at

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:36.319
<v Speaker 6>the time. Michael Peters are also choreographed Thriller and beat

0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:41.360
<v Speaker 6>It for Michael. He was like Michael's choreographers. So Michael

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:43.240
<v Speaker 6>Peters had come up to me one day in rehearsal

0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:45.880
<v Speaker 6>and had just told me. He said, you know, Michael's

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:50.279
<v Speaker 6>been looking at the daily He's very very pleased. You know.

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 6>He said, you can stick to turn a little bit

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:54.560
<v Speaker 6>harder if you want to, like the famous fan that

0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 6>he would do. And he actually gave me a note

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:00.960
<v Speaker 6>to do it successfully, which I which I didn't know

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:03.279
<v Speaker 6>at the time, And it's kind of something that all

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:06.560
<v Speaker 6>dancers know, but it's about keeping your eyes like when

0:41:06.600 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 6>you do a spin or you're doing multiple spins, keeping

0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:12.920
<v Speaker 6>your eyes on that one point. Ye. So yeah, so

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:14.879
<v Speaker 6>he was like, you know, Michael's advice for that is

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:17.840
<v Speaker 6>just you know, do that, and it just relaxed a

0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:20.320
<v Speaker 6>little bit and just have fun. And he knows it's,

0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:24.560
<v Speaker 6>you know, really a pressure kind of situation, but you know,

0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:26.840
<v Speaker 6>just have fun. And that was all I needed, you know,

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:29.239
<v Speaker 6>to know that he was watching, to know that he

0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:31.400
<v Speaker 6>was pleased with the work that was being done so

0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:34.680
<v Speaker 6>far at that time. That was reassuring for me and

0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:37.279
<v Speaker 6>that allowed me to kind of relax and go into

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:41.239
<v Speaker 6>the role more. And yeah, it worked, thank thank god.

0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:45.239
<v Speaker 6>Like none of his fans, you know, ended up being

0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:48.400
<v Speaker 6>disappointed with my performance. I was, you know, to be honest,

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:50.520
<v Speaker 6>unless there are a few people out there that I

0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:54.360
<v Speaker 6>don't know of, but most of his fans felt that

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:58.319
<v Speaker 6>I did justice to that role, to his legacy, and

0:41:58.640 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 6>so I'm very happy.

0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 2>What an incredible feat.

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:03.200
<v Speaker 4>I mean, well, what one of the things you were saying,

0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:06.160
<v Speaker 4>which is so interesting is when that nobody knew Summertime

0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:09.359
<v Speaker 4>Switch was going to have any staying power. But that's

0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 4>The thing is when, especially when you're a young actor,

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 4>you never know what's going to work what's not. You

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:16.319
<v Speaker 4>think you're going to a job, you have fun doing

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 4>the job, you're really enjoying it, you hope people.

0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 2>When you're doing the Lion King, you kind of know

0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:23.080
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be really I don't know. Again, you

0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:23.360
<v Speaker 2>don't know.

0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:24.560
<v Speaker 6>You don't know.

0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:28.200
<v Speaker 2>That was like a golden age of Disney film. I

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:31.160
<v Speaker 2>mean like, no, you never know.

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:34.360
<v Speaker 6>No, you you never you guys know this, man, You

0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:37.440
<v Speaker 6>you never know. Even when the thing looks like as

0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:39.799
<v Speaker 6>you're making it it looks like it's set up to

0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 6>be a hit, you don't know until the people see it,

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:45.000
<v Speaker 6>until it takes a connection. We and all try to

0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:48.320
<v Speaker 6>make our professional prediction as far as where or forecast

0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:50.600
<v Speaker 6>where something is going to go, but you never know

0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:53.120
<v Speaker 6>until it gets out there. I just knew that it

0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:55.239
<v Speaker 6>was Disney, and I knew that it was following in

0:42:55.280 --> 0:42:58.120
<v Speaker 6>the same line or Legacy is a Laddin and Beauty

0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:00.239
<v Speaker 6>and the Beast, and you know, so I knew they

0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 6>were gonna pump a lot of money into it. I

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:05.840
<v Speaker 6>just didn't know that it was going to be as

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 6>successful as it was because I mean that I just

0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:10.879
<v Speaker 6>can't wait to be King to this day. I went

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:14.319
<v Speaker 6>to Disney a few years ago and I was at

0:43:14.360 --> 0:43:17.880
<v Speaker 6>the Animal Kingdom resort and that's all that was pumped

0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:21.879
<v Speaker 6>this hallways. It was just it was incredible. To this day,

0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 6>I'm just I'm blown away and again, and i know

0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:26.840
<v Speaker 6>I'm probably sound like a preacher on you Guys podcast,

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:29.480
<v Speaker 6>but I'm so thankful to God, you know what I mean,

0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:34.920
<v Speaker 6>because this journey so far has just been just extraordinary. Man.

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:38.000
<v Speaker 6>I've really been able to walk into some blessings that

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:40.799
<v Speaker 6>you know, normal kids from from where I'm from, you know,

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:43.919
<v Speaker 6>from the South side of Chicago, and man, not many

0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:46.960
<v Speaker 6>of us get opportunities like this, man. So you know,

0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:51.719
<v Speaker 6>I'm just so happy and so grateful that I had

0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:52.040
<v Speaker 6>all that.

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:03.399
<v Speaker 3>I went through a period like three years ago, yeah,

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:06.440
<v Speaker 3>probably about three or four years ago. Uh, I got

0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:10.320
<v Speaker 3>such major dad points because my son was six years old,

0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:12.920
<v Speaker 3>five or six and obsessed.

0:44:12.440 --> 0:44:14.479
<v Speaker 2>With Lion King, and I was able to be like, Okay,

0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:15.439
<v Speaker 2>I worked with that guy.

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:20.680
<v Speaker 3>And then I got so sick of your song, Indy,

0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:24.319
<v Speaker 3>I can't Wait to Be King was like five times

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:27.080
<v Speaker 3>a day, and I like to this time, I'm over it.

0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:28.040
<v Speaker 2>Man, I love you.

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:33.400
<v Speaker 3>I can't listen anymore. They had to tell stop. That

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:36.680
<v Speaker 3>was his obsessive favorite song and I was just like, dude,

0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:40.200
<v Speaker 3>and you have to stop. So well, maybe it'll come back.

0:44:40.239 --> 0:44:42.800
<v Speaker 3>But man, there's a ban on itto my house because.

0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:47.040
<v Speaker 6>I I get it.

0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Every few years you go viral actually for a story

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:55.279
<v Speaker 1>about your Lion King residuals where your mom advised you

0:44:55.400 --> 0:44:58.800
<v Speaker 1>to reject a two million dollar buyout from Disney in

0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:02.880
<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety four and instead negotiate a royalty steal.

0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:06.279
<v Speaker 2>So so, sir, news is, this was.

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:09.440
<v Speaker 1>A genius move and it came for itself over and

0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:13.520
<v Speaker 1>over again. But how insanely hard was it to trust

0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:16.600
<v Speaker 1>your mom back then when she was you know, two

0:45:16.640 --> 0:45:19.759
<v Speaker 1>million dollars in nineteen ninety four is very hard for

0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:20.959
<v Speaker 1>anyone to turn down.

0:45:21.160 --> 0:45:26.600
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, oh absolutely, Well, you know, I will say this,

0:45:27.040 --> 0:45:31.879
<v Speaker 6>my mother has had had an experience working in the

0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:35.759
<v Speaker 6>in the record industry. My mother's name is Marilyn Haywood,

0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:41.840
<v Speaker 6>professionally known as Kitty Haywood. My mother experienced, you know,

0:45:41.840 --> 0:45:45.920
<v Speaker 6>a great deal of success as a solo artist and

0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:48.360
<v Speaker 6>also in a group with my aunts called Kitty in

0:45:48.360 --> 0:45:51.200
<v Speaker 6>the Haywoods. They work with Curtis Mayfield. They work with

0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:52.799
<v Speaker 6>the Reap of Franklin back in the day on the

0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:55.799
<v Speaker 6>Sparkle soundtrack. As a matter of fact, my mother and

0:45:55.840 --> 0:45:57.880
<v Speaker 6>my aunts are on the original giving him something he

0:45:57.960 --> 0:46:00.960
<v Speaker 6>can feel with the Reap of Franklin. Those are those

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:05.400
<v Speaker 6>that's my mom and my aunts in the background. Yeah.

0:46:05.480 --> 0:46:09.200
<v Speaker 6>So my family has a has a history, a rich

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:13.080
<v Speaker 6>history in music. My big up my cousins. Two of

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:16.440
<v Speaker 6>my cousins are multi Grammy Award winning producers. My cousin

0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:21.000
<v Speaker 6>Tricky Stewart produced single Ladies for Beyonce and Uh Break

0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:25.080
<v Speaker 6>My Soul for her and Umbrella for Rihanna. My cousin

0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:29.480
<v Speaker 6>Kou Carell works with Rihanna as her vocal producer. He

0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 6>works with share just a number of people. So that's

0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:36.920
<v Speaker 6>that's my family's business. I was the only actor, you

0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:39.080
<v Speaker 6>know what I mean in my family at the time.

0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:44.080
<v Speaker 6>And so when that situation came about with the Lion

0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:47.160
<v Speaker 6>King and when they presented the initial offer, you know,

0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:50.759
<v Speaker 6>as you guys know with negotiating your own deals, the

0:46:50.800 --> 0:46:55.360
<v Speaker 6>initial offer comes through, you counter and then you negotiate,

0:46:55.520 --> 0:46:59.080
<v Speaker 6>you know, from there. But my mother just offered first glance.

0:46:59.160 --> 0:47:01.720
<v Speaker 6>When the initial offer came through for just a straight

0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:04.560
<v Speaker 6>buy out of that, you know, I think just the

0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:06.960
<v Speaker 6>lights went off in her mind and she was like, Okay, well,

0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:08.920
<v Speaker 6>if they're willing to buy you out for that amount

0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:11.759
<v Speaker 6>of money, right, I can only imagine, you know, on

0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:14.800
<v Speaker 6>a residual basis, which you could possibly generate over time.

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:17.319
<v Speaker 6>And so she was like, look, I know this kind

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:20.560
<v Speaker 6>of sounds, you know, a little bit of a stretch,

0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:23.000
<v Speaker 6>and you know, I know this is a huge opportunity

0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:25.799
<v Speaker 6>for you, but you know, let's let's try this. Let's

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:28.360
<v Speaker 6>let's make this chest move real quick. And you know,

0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:30.920
<v Speaker 6>all they can do is just say is no. And

0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:33.080
<v Speaker 6>I was like, well, you know what, I'm twelve thirteen

0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:35.680
<v Speaker 6>at the time. Although I understand to some degree what

0:47:35.719 --> 0:47:38.359
<v Speaker 6>two million dollars is, I'm not really don't know. All

0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:40.000
<v Speaker 6>I want to do is go to the ballpark and

0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:42.759
<v Speaker 6>go get McDonald's after you you know me. Yeah. So,

0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:46.040
<v Speaker 6>you know, it was like all of us at that

0:47:46.160 --> 0:47:50.640
<v Speaker 6>time just you know, trusting our parents to move on

0:47:50.680 --> 0:47:52.640
<v Speaker 6>our behalf in the right way. And so she did,

0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:55.520
<v Speaker 6>and it just continued to be the gift that just

0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:59.960
<v Speaker 6>keeps on giving. I'm so so grateful that she had

0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:03.040
<v Speaker 6>had the foresight to just be able to see, you know,

0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:06.440
<v Speaker 6>to see that and to understand the importance of setting

0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 6>her son, you know, upright. And you know now that's

0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:13.239
<v Speaker 6>why whenever she calls and she needs anything, she she

0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:13.680
<v Speaker 6>got it.

0:48:15.640 --> 0:48:18.640
<v Speaker 4>I think the message is always listening to your mom's

0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:21.200
<v Speaker 4>especially when your mom's a pro.

0:48:21.400 --> 0:48:23.839
<v Speaker 3>You know, like you were so fortunate that she had

0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:27.720
<v Speaker 3>that experience, because yeah, I mean music industry is brutal,

0:48:27.760 --> 0:48:30.040
<v Speaker 3>man Like, if you've been through that, like you come

0:48:30.080 --> 0:48:33.560
<v Speaker 3>out with those scars, like you protect your kids, like

0:48:33.640 --> 0:48:34.480
<v Speaker 3>that's all again.

0:48:35.400 --> 0:48:37.799
<v Speaker 6>And she knew that, and you know, like all of

0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:41.880
<v Speaker 6>us at that time with being in the in the business,

0:48:42.640 --> 0:48:44.600
<v Speaker 6>you know, there has to be somebody there to protect

0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:47.680
<v Speaker 6>you and looking out for your best interest because you know,

0:48:47.800 --> 0:48:49.600
<v Speaker 6>all these companies are looking at at the end of

0:48:49.600 --> 0:48:52.600
<v Speaker 6>the day, as they should, they're just looking at their

0:48:52.600 --> 0:48:55.400
<v Speaker 6>bottom line. They're trying to get the most bang for

0:48:55.480 --> 0:48:58.480
<v Speaker 6>their books, so they're not really concerned about ultimately how

0:48:58.480 --> 0:49:00.319
<v Speaker 6>it's going to affect you in the long run, whether

0:49:00.320 --> 0:49:03.239
<v Speaker 6>it's successful or not successful. You know, that's your job

0:49:03.320 --> 0:49:06.200
<v Speaker 6>to make sure that you're protected. So you know, I'm

0:49:06.280 --> 0:49:09.920
<v Speaker 6>just glad and fortunate to have my mom there who

0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:14.439
<v Speaker 6>knew the business, and you know, and even now, if

0:49:14.440 --> 0:49:19.799
<v Speaker 6>there are certain parts of my career where I may

0:49:19.840 --> 0:49:22.840
<v Speaker 6>be confused and I really need some real advice, and

0:49:22.960 --> 0:49:25.000
<v Speaker 6>I always, you know, I reach out to my mom

0:49:25.000 --> 0:49:27.560
<v Speaker 6>because she really is smart like that. She's pretty brilliant

0:49:27.560 --> 0:49:29.400
<v Speaker 6>as a businesswoman. So cool.

0:49:30.000 --> 0:49:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I have two more career things I want to talk

0:49:32.480 --> 0:49:35.520
<v Speaker 1>about from your history before we get into your current career,

0:49:35.600 --> 0:49:38.040
<v Speaker 1>which is you have so many great things to talk about,

0:49:38.080 --> 0:49:42.000
<v Speaker 1>but we have a ton of Smart Guy fans, and

0:49:42.080 --> 0:49:44.480
<v Speaker 1>so I want to talk to you about when in

0:49:44.560 --> 0:49:48.720
<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety seven you landed the role alongside taj Maori.

0:49:49.360 --> 0:49:51.040
<v Speaker 2>What do you remember from that audition?

0:49:52.680 --> 0:49:58.200
<v Speaker 6>Oh, I just remember having a especially the screen test audition.

0:49:58.360 --> 0:50:01.960
<v Speaker 6>I just remember having a great time with the creator

0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:07.520
<v Speaker 6>of the show, Danny kalis Uh. Danny also created What's

0:50:07.560 --> 0:50:13.879
<v Speaker 6>the Show with the Twins Zack and Cody? Yes, Yes,

0:50:13.920 --> 0:50:16.319
<v Speaker 6>Sweet Life with Zach and Coach, because he did that

0:50:16.840 --> 0:50:21.839
<v Speaker 6>after Smart Guy. But Danny was so he was such

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:25.319
<v Speaker 6>a pleasure to work with because you know, we were

0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:28.919
<v Speaker 6>a Disney show and you know, they wanted to kind

0:50:28.920 --> 0:50:31.040
<v Speaker 6>of keep it cookie cutter. I mean, it's the same

0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:34.480
<v Speaker 6>basic fourth camera you know, sitcom for man and as

0:50:34.520 --> 0:50:37.719
<v Speaker 6>we all know, you know, they there's a formula to that,

0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:40.520
<v Speaker 6>and they wanted they want the jokes to play a

0:50:40.560 --> 0:50:42.319
<v Speaker 6>certain kind of way. They want the kids to look

0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:45.120
<v Speaker 6>a certain kind of way. They want the sets, the wardrobe,

0:50:45.160 --> 0:50:49.640
<v Speaker 6>everything to be a certain kind of way. And you know,

0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:53.440
<v Speaker 6>me naturally, as just a kid, especially who was so

0:50:53.680 --> 0:50:56.000
<v Speaker 6>fully immersed at that time in like the culture of

0:50:56.080 --> 0:51:01.280
<v Speaker 6>hip hop and and being a part of that whole movement,

0:51:01.360 --> 0:51:03.960
<v Speaker 6>there was so much of that that I wanted to

0:51:04.000 --> 0:51:07.120
<v Speaker 6>inject and bring into the role and into the show.

0:51:08.040 --> 0:51:12.240
<v Speaker 6>And at first, Disney was a little bit reluctant because

0:51:13.120 --> 0:51:16.000
<v Speaker 6>you know, at that time, all they knew about hip

0:51:16.000 --> 0:51:18.240
<v Speaker 6>hop was like what they were hearing about Biggie and Tupac.

0:51:18.719 --> 0:51:20.799
<v Speaker 6>It was not a lot of negative There was not

0:51:20.840 --> 0:51:24.880
<v Speaker 6>a lot of positive energy surrounding hip hop or the

0:51:24.920 --> 0:51:27.720
<v Speaker 6>culture of it at that time. But it was something

0:51:27.760 --> 0:51:31.480
<v Speaker 6>that I really felt strongly about because I was like, yo,

0:51:31.719 --> 0:51:34.480
<v Speaker 6>you know, just keeping it, keeping it enough. Stack with

0:51:34.480 --> 0:51:36.040
<v Speaker 6>you guys. I was like, Yo, if I'm going to

0:51:36.120 --> 0:51:37.920
<v Speaker 6>be on TV and if I'm going to be representing

0:51:38.040 --> 0:51:41.640
<v Speaker 6>kids that looked like me and that come from the neighborhood. Like,

0:51:41.719 --> 0:51:43.719
<v Speaker 6>it's got to be authentic, it's got to be real.

0:51:44.320 --> 0:51:46.560
<v Speaker 6>They got to be able to see themselves in his character.

0:51:46.560 --> 0:51:48.040
<v Speaker 6>They got to be able to relate to them. And

0:51:48.080 --> 0:51:50.920
<v Speaker 6>I'm not going to be presenting something that's not real.

0:51:51.800 --> 0:51:54.520
<v Speaker 6>You know, we're gonna do this. Let's be real about it.

0:51:54.600 --> 0:52:00.319
<v Speaker 6>And Danny was so gracious and so understanding and so

0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:04.640
<v Speaker 6>patient with that. And I just remember anytime I had questions,

0:52:04.719 --> 0:52:07.640
<v Speaker 6>anytime I had concerns, you know, if there was a

0:52:07.640 --> 0:52:10.280
<v Speaker 6>subtle change, of course, I'm not going to rewrite the script,

0:52:10.520 --> 0:52:12.359
<v Speaker 6>but if there's a joke or something that I wanted

0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:15.480
<v Speaker 6>to try out, I was always given that freedom. You know,

0:52:15.600 --> 0:52:18.000
<v Speaker 6>me and Omar Gooding in particular, we were always giving

0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:21.040
<v Speaker 6>that freedom to try different things. And I just really

0:52:21.040 --> 0:52:23.520
<v Speaker 6>appreciate that because I know that took a certain level

0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:26.319
<v Speaker 6>of trust and some young kids that they didn't have to,

0:52:26.560 --> 0:52:28.920
<v Speaker 6>you know, really do that with. But that was one

0:52:28.960 --> 0:52:32.160
<v Speaker 6>of the things that I remember the most about working

0:52:32.160 --> 0:52:35.080
<v Speaker 6>on A Smart Guy was just like the support that

0:52:35.120 --> 0:52:37.480
<v Speaker 6>we got from the executives and from the producers to

0:52:37.880 --> 0:52:40.760
<v Speaker 6>kind of stretch out and try different things. And test

0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:43.319
<v Speaker 6>our range, and then of course you know, working with

0:52:43.360 --> 0:52:46.719
<v Speaker 6>the cast, working with Taj, working with JJ, working with

0:52:46.840 --> 0:52:50.200
<v Speaker 6>essen z atkins Man. They were fantastic. I mean, these

0:52:50.200 --> 0:52:52.600
<v Speaker 6>are people that you know, I still keep in contact

0:52:52.680 --> 0:52:55.520
<v Speaker 6>with to this day, who I absolutely love. Well.

0:52:55.600 --> 0:52:58.600
<v Speaker 2>I have a headshot from Taj where he says I'm

0:52:58.640 --> 0:53:01.879
<v Speaker 2>his best friend. Did Tash talk about me? Is am

0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:03.640
<v Speaker 2>I still best friend?

0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:06.359
<v Speaker 6>I'm sure. I'm sure you are.

0:53:06.440 --> 0:53:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Thank you you're not.

0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:13.000
<v Speaker 4>It's nice that you're Yes, it's very nice Jason, that

0:53:13.040 --> 0:53:14.759
<v Speaker 4>you're you're being this this sweet to.

0:53:14.800 --> 0:53:21.480
<v Speaker 3>Day performing Rock and Robin at like every party. Yes,

0:53:21.760 --> 0:53:23.839
<v Speaker 3>there was like a period. There was a period where

0:53:23.840 --> 0:53:25.840
<v Speaker 3>he was I guess he was under contract with ABC

0:53:26.040 --> 0:53:29.399
<v Speaker 3>or something, so every agency of the Disney Tosh would

0:53:29.400 --> 0:53:31.160
<v Speaker 3>show up and he would.

0:53:31.040 --> 0:53:32.280
<v Speaker 2>Before Rock and Robin.

0:53:32.320 --> 0:53:35.359
<v Speaker 3>He was amazing because he was he was younger than

0:53:35.440 --> 0:53:38.239
<v Speaker 3>us and he was so talented. I remember, but it

0:53:38.320 --> 0:53:40.120
<v Speaker 3>was like there was a period where for a couple

0:53:40.160 --> 0:53:42.160
<v Speaker 3>of years, every party we went to was like, oh, there's.

0:53:45.280 --> 0:53:45.880
<v Speaker 2>There, you go there.

0:53:45.960 --> 0:53:48.200
<v Speaker 4>That's a perfect example of what Disney does though, because

0:53:48.239 --> 0:53:50.200
<v Speaker 4>Disney put him in that and then right after he

0:53:50.280 --> 0:53:52.799
<v Speaker 4>and I did Kim Possible together for four years. So

0:53:52.840 --> 0:53:55.279
<v Speaker 4>it was just like plugging people in. Let's plug who

0:53:55.280 --> 0:53:56.680
<v Speaker 4>we got here, who we got here, who we got here,

0:53:56.719 --> 0:53:57.320
<v Speaker 4>Let's plug him in.

0:53:57.400 --> 0:53:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Let's make a thing. I mean, it's like the old

0:53:58.680 --> 0:54:02.399
<v Speaker 2>contract day is in the studio. Yes exactly. I kind

0:54:02.400 --> 0:54:04.560
<v Speaker 2>of yearned for that, Like I think, I love that.

0:54:04.840 --> 0:54:07.120
<v Speaker 4>I love it. Yeah, it's the best. It was the

0:54:07.160 --> 0:54:09.399
<v Speaker 4>best when it was like okay, you're now. I mean

0:54:09.400 --> 0:54:11.839
<v Speaker 4>when we were on team working for Disney. You were

0:54:11.880 --> 0:54:14.399
<v Speaker 4>part of that team, and it's like anytime they needed

0:54:14.400 --> 0:54:16.279
<v Speaker 4>you to host something, they you know, bring you down

0:54:16.320 --> 0:54:18.680
<v Speaker 4>to host something, big parties for this, big parties for that.

0:54:18.719 --> 0:54:19.960
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna be on that show, You're gonna be in

0:54:19.960 --> 0:54:20.920
<v Speaker 2>that movie. It was great.

0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:23.560
<v Speaker 6>It was to fun. Yeah, I don't know. I think,

0:54:24.040 --> 0:54:26.239
<v Speaker 6>you know, we'll see you moving forward because I know

0:54:26.280 --> 0:54:30.000
<v Speaker 6>we're all trying to figure out, you know, what the

0:54:30.160 --> 0:54:33.440
<v Speaker 6>what the new business model is going to be moving forward,

0:54:33.600 --> 0:54:38.200
<v Speaker 6>you know, after this strike. You know, but maybe maybe

0:54:38.239 --> 0:54:43.359
<v Speaker 6>something will will eventually reform like that because you know

0:54:44.320 --> 0:54:46.680
<v Speaker 6>you're getting met, we're getting met with so much resistance,

0:54:46.680 --> 0:54:49.720
<v Speaker 6>if you will, and like you know, the major studio,

0:54:49.840 --> 0:54:52.040
<v Speaker 6>well not even major studios, but more like the digital

0:54:52.040 --> 0:54:53.040
<v Speaker 6>streaming streams.

0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:54.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you know what I mean.

0:54:54.520 --> 0:54:56.960
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know how they maintain an identity like

0:54:57.040 --> 0:54:59.040
<v Speaker 3>back in the day, like you knew who Disney was,

0:54:59.040 --> 0:55:01.000
<v Speaker 3>you knew who ABC was based on a set of

0:55:01.040 --> 0:55:05.000
<v Speaker 3>shows like now Netflix, like do people know like because

0:55:05.000 --> 0:55:07.879
<v Speaker 3>Netflix is different for based on your algorithm, Like which

0:55:07.920 --> 0:55:11.000
<v Speaker 3>one you know we're watching gets their version of Netflix?

0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:12.680
<v Speaker 2>So this whole notion of like or.

0:55:12.640 --> 0:55:15.400
<v Speaker 3>Even now Max, Like I don't even know what HBO

0:55:15.560 --> 0:55:18.560
<v Speaker 3>means anymore. It's just kind of another one of the streamers.

0:55:19.040 --> 0:55:23.680
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that's the idea is like what if what

0:55:23.840 --> 0:55:27.640
<v Speaker 3>if a network or a streamer where to contract contractually

0:55:28.239 --> 0:55:31.080
<v Speaker 3>like absorb a set of talent, like oh we are

0:55:31.200 --> 0:55:35.200
<v Speaker 3>these these like twenty actors are only associated with Netflix

0:55:35.239 --> 0:55:35.520
<v Speaker 3>or these.

0:55:35.960 --> 0:55:38.400
<v Speaker 2>That would be one way to sort of brand themselves

0:55:38.520 --> 0:55:40.640
<v Speaker 2>and to have like a repertoire of actors you know

0:55:40.719 --> 0:55:42.879
<v Speaker 2>at Expose or like you were saying, will to bring

0:55:42.960 --> 0:55:45.840
<v Speaker 2>back like a summertime switch, like let's take the stars

0:55:45.880 --> 0:55:48.160
<v Speaker 2>from all of our shows and make one big movie

0:55:48.160 --> 0:55:50.400
<v Speaker 2>with them to get a brand as a network or

0:55:50.400 --> 0:55:52.840
<v Speaker 2>as a streamer. Well hopefully they'll do that with all

0:55:52.920 --> 0:55:54.960
<v Speaker 2>the new AI actors. They'll just be able to plug

0:55:55.000 --> 0:55:56.400
<v Speaker 2>in the AI actors.

0:55:56.000 --> 0:55:59.440
<v Speaker 4>To whatever they want, and all these computer generated programs

0:55:59.480 --> 0:56:03.399
<v Speaker 4>will be in all these wonderful films.

0:56:03.520 --> 0:56:04.120
<v Speaker 2>It'll be us.

0:56:04.400 --> 0:56:06.799
<v Speaker 3>They'll be able to make us from nineteen ninety four

0:56:06.800 --> 0:56:08.879
<v Speaker 3>Switch just didn't you.

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<v Speaker 2>Just see exactly? Season eighty Boy meets World starts next week?

0:56:12.160 --> 0:56:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Didn't you see? We all look great. We're not making anything,

0:56:15.040 --> 0:56:16.759
<v Speaker 2>but I can't wait to see the episode. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I want to talk Chingy with you.

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<v Speaker 2>How did your song with him come together?

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<v Speaker 5>What?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait?

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<v Speaker 6>Wait?

0:56:26.600 --> 0:56:31.320
<v Speaker 2>What just happened? One call Away? He Jason sings Charlie.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Jason sings the hook on a Chingy song called

0:56:35.840 --> 0:56:38.640
<v Speaker 1>one Call Away, and it is phenomenal.

0:56:38.840 --> 0:56:43.280
<v Speaker 2>How dare you will Chingy is a person? Correct? Okay?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know. You don't listen to hip hop?

0:56:46.400 --> 0:56:46.880
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:56:46.880 --> 0:56:49.360
<v Speaker 4>No, I do listen to I listened to awesome music,

0:56:49.400 --> 0:56:52.799
<v Speaker 4>incredible hip hop. But after nineteen eighty seven eighty eight,

0:56:52.960 --> 0:56:54.520
<v Speaker 4>everything stops music wise.

0:56:54.560 --> 0:56:59.200
<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, like when hip hop starts, like a year

0:56:59.280 --> 0:57:01.760
<v Speaker 3>one of hip hop at the beginning, d J Rob.

0:57:01.640 --> 0:57:02.719
<v Speaker 2>Bass, it takes two.

0:57:02.920 --> 0:57:06.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm all all day long, original nw A like I

0:57:06.680 --> 0:57:09.240
<v Speaker 4>listened to original n w A all the time, straight

0:57:09.239 --> 0:57:11.879
<v Speaker 4>out of Compton's one of the greatest albums ever, so

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<v Speaker 4>like kind of after that, it falls by the wayside

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, with all well we forgive you, We're.

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<v Speaker 6>Gonna fast forward, We're gonna go to the future, but

0:57:20.920 --> 0:57:24.959
<v Speaker 6>yet the past here, okay song. I did a song

0:57:25.000 --> 0:57:28.080
<v Speaker 6>with this artist by the Day with ching and he

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<v Speaker 6>had his first single he had was called right There

0:57:31.960 --> 0:57:33.440
<v Speaker 6>and he and he's from Saint Louis.

0:57:33.560 --> 0:57:37.520
<v Speaker 2>You'll know that song, well, you will know that I will.

0:57:38.480 --> 0:57:41.800
<v Speaker 6>No, you'll know, you'll know. I did the follow up

0:57:41.840 --> 0:57:45.200
<v Speaker 6>single with him, a single call One Call Away that

0:57:45.400 --> 0:57:48.520
<v Speaker 6>actually ended up being like a surprise kind of sleeper hit,

0:57:49.360 --> 0:57:53.760
<v Speaker 6>another opportunity that I kind of walked into that I

0:57:53.840 --> 0:57:55.840
<v Speaker 6>did not know it was going to turn out like that.

0:57:55.920 --> 0:58:01.840
<v Speaker 6>I was actually in Los Angeles. I was working. I

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<v Speaker 6>had a small role in a film called The Lady

0:58:03.880 --> 0:58:07.840
<v Speaker 6>Killers that the Cohen Brothers kid and that Tom Hanks

0:58:07.880 --> 0:58:11.440
<v Speaker 6>starting and Marlon WANs and so I had a small

0:58:11.560 --> 0:58:16.920
<v Speaker 6>role in that film. And the night before I was

0:58:16.960 --> 0:58:20.360
<v Speaker 6>supposed to shoot, for some odd reason, I was out

0:58:20.400 --> 0:58:22.760
<v Speaker 6>because usually I'll be in the bed, like if I

0:58:22.800 --> 0:58:24.640
<v Speaker 6>know I got a seven am call. I'm usually in

0:58:24.680 --> 0:58:27.240
<v Speaker 6>the bed early, but for some odd reason, I think

0:58:27.280 --> 0:58:30.160
<v Speaker 6>I had gone out to dinner or whatever. And it

0:58:30.200 --> 0:58:34.720
<v Speaker 6>was during kind of like award season, so everybody was

0:58:34.880 --> 0:58:38.280
<v Speaker 6>out and about, you know, partying and hanging out, and

0:58:38.320 --> 0:58:40.320
<v Speaker 6>I ran into a good friend of mine who used

0:58:40.320 --> 0:58:44.440
<v Speaker 6>to be a famous radio personality down here in Atlanta

0:58:44.720 --> 0:58:48.720
<v Speaker 6>with Ludacris. His name was Poon, and Poon and Luda

0:58:48.760 --> 0:58:51.959
<v Speaker 6>had a show years ago on Hot ninety seven down here,

0:58:52.280 --> 0:58:56.000
<v Speaker 6>and so I've known those guys for years. And what

0:58:56.120 --> 0:58:58.000
<v Speaker 6>ended up happening was I ran in a pooling at

0:58:58.000 --> 0:59:01.000
<v Speaker 6>this party. He was like, hey, man, up, what are

0:59:01.040 --> 0:59:02.560
<v Speaker 6>you doing tonight. I was like, oh, I'm nothing. I'm

0:59:02.560 --> 0:59:04.200
<v Speaker 6>probably gonna go back to my hotel. I got to

0:59:04.240 --> 0:59:06.400
<v Speaker 6>work tomorrow. He's like, well, come to the studio. I

0:59:06.440 --> 0:59:08.800
<v Speaker 6>want you to meet this kid that we have coming

0:59:08.800 --> 0:59:11.320
<v Speaker 6>out on our label on Disturbing the Piece. I just

0:59:11.360 --> 0:59:13.120
<v Speaker 6>want you to meet them, and you know, listen to

0:59:13.240 --> 0:59:16.040
<v Speaker 6>some of the album. So sure enough, you know, went

0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:20.000
<v Speaker 6>to the studio. I met Ching as we were, you know,

0:59:20.120 --> 0:59:24.360
<v Speaker 6>kind of there hanging and vibing. Ponent said, well, man,

0:59:24.360 --> 0:59:26.760
<v Speaker 6>we got this song called one Call Away looking for

0:59:26.800 --> 0:59:29.200
<v Speaker 6>this artist, you know, to sing the hook, but we

0:59:29.280 --> 0:59:32.560
<v Speaker 6>can't find the right voice for it. Like he was like, man,

0:59:32.560 --> 0:59:35.640
<v Speaker 6>you still sing right? I was like yeah, but I mean,

0:59:35.760 --> 0:59:37.960
<v Speaker 6>come on, man, the record industry is not trying to

0:59:37.960 --> 0:59:41.280
<v Speaker 6>hear Jason Weave on a hook right now. Like I'm

0:59:41.360 --> 0:59:44.640
<v Speaker 6>doing movies and I'm on TV. Like they're not tripping.

0:59:44.680 --> 0:59:48.760
<v Speaker 6>It's like, just just come in tomorrow, sing down the

0:59:48.800 --> 0:59:51.440
<v Speaker 6>song a few times, you know, we'll send it to Capitol.

0:59:51.480 --> 0:59:54.760
<v Speaker 6>We'll see if they like it. Sure enough, the next

0:59:54.840 --> 0:59:59.200
<v Speaker 6>day I go to work and I'll never forget it.

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<v Speaker 6>I got a call like right when I was on

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<v Speaker 6>set in the middle of my scene and Pohan was like, man,

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<v Speaker 6>we got the studio time. You know, do you think

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<v Speaker 6>that you can you can make it here in the

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<v Speaker 6>next couple of hours. I'm like, dude, I'm gonna set

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<v Speaker 6>working with the Cohen brothers.

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<v Speaker 2>Like what are you talking about.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not yeah, Hank, Yeah, I'm looking at Tom Hanks,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, getting prepared in hair and makeup, like are

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<v Speaker 6>you saring? But as I'm as I'm having this conversation,

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<v Speaker 6>Ethan is like next to me, like or he's in

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<v Speaker 6>earshot distance, so he's listening. We do a couple of

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<v Speaker 6>takes of the scene. I think we were getting like

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<v Speaker 6>the master shot or whatever. And then after lunch we

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<v Speaker 6>were gonna start going in and getting coverage. And so

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<v Speaker 6>as we're breaking down for lunch, Ethan was like, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 6>you got like a studio session or something booked today.

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, oh no, mister coin Man, it's man,

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<v Speaker 6>this dude is crazy. I was like, I total I was,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just trying to save my job. I'm at this point.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like, this dude's I'm not leaving. Said, I'm right here.

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<v Speaker 6>He's like, no, well, I mean we got an hour.

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<v Speaker 6>He's like, and then you know the coverage that we're

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<v Speaker 6>gonna get, we're gonna do this. You won't even be

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<v Speaker 6>in it. Man, where is it? And we were shooting

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<v Speaker 6>in Glendale that day and the session that I had

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<v Speaker 6>to go to is in Burbank.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah not far so He's like, man, it's in Burbank.

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, yeah, it's off for Magnolia. He's like,

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<v Speaker 6>go and do it real quick. If you can knock

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<v Speaker 6>it out, Like, go and knock it real talk man,

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<v Speaker 6>and shout out to eat the call for that because

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<v Speaker 6>he didn't have to do that, but he was real

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<v Speaker 6>cool about it, and so I went. I went to

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<v Speaker 6>Enterprise Studios. I sang the song down maybe about five

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<v Speaker 6>or six different times on separate tracks, and then I

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<v Speaker 6>left and went back to work, and then they camped

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<v Speaker 6>the vocals and then they sent it to Capital, and

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<v Speaker 6>Capital was like, man, we really really like it, but

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<v Speaker 6>we have different versions from different artists. And then they

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<v Speaker 6>did like a focus group and they played all the

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<v Speaker 6>different versions for this focus group, and Mom was the

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<v Speaker 6>one that, you know, kind of came out on top.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's what I got on that record.

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<v Speaker 2>Honest fun day.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not expect when I asked that question that

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<v Speaker 1>the answer to how one call Away with Chiney came

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<v Speaker 1>about is actually Ethan Culin.

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<v Speaker 6>Brothers.

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<v Speaker 2>I love Sorry, I just couldn't love it anymore. That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, I will say one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 4>bands of all time. I do listen to a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit later music. Outcast will always be one of my

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<v Speaker 4>favorite favorite groups ever ever. And Jurassic Five. So there's

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<v Speaker 4>there's there's kayeties I did. I made it into the nineties.

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<v Speaker 4>I could I could listen to I. I could listen

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<v Speaker 4>to Outcast over and over and frankly I do so Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I love them, Love.

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<v Speaker 2>Jason.

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<v Speaker 1>You are also still working on TV. You never really left.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on The Shy debuting a new season next month,

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll be on Tyler Perry's Sisters for its sixth.

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<v Speaker 2>Season on be Ep.

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<v Speaker 1>Has there ever been a time in your life you

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<v Speaker 1>have been doing this for so long. You've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>how blessed you've been. Has there ever been a time

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<v Speaker 1>where you've thought, Man, maybe I'll just leave this all

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<v Speaker 1>behind and go get a quote unquote regular job and

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<v Speaker 1>just have a regular old life.

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<v Speaker 2>Has there ever been a time where you've thought about that? Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, oh yeah, you know, just just being completely transparent

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<v Speaker 6>and real. There was a time in two thousand and eight,

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<v Speaker 6>two thousand and nine, I was in Los Angeles, me

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<v Speaker 6>and my ex girlfriend. We were living in Hollywood at

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<v Speaker 6>the time, in this little town home that we were

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<v Speaker 6>like Rennie. And this was like during the Great Recession,

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<v Speaker 6>and you know, so the economy was really really bad.

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<v Speaker 6>And then you know, as far as you know, content

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<v Speaker 6>in certain things traditionally that I had always been a

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<v Speaker 6>part of a certain films that I've always been a

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<v Speaker 6>part of those opportunities that kind of dried up. I

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<v Speaker 6>think just because there was there was really no money,

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<v Speaker 6>and there was really not a lot of backers that

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<v Speaker 6>were willing to get behind films. That weren't a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of studios that were willing to get behind certain kind

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<v Speaker 6>of films, and so, you know, the opportunities were far

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<v Speaker 6>in between. And I'll never forget I was, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I hadn't worked for maybe six months. I'd had a

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<v Speaker 6>horrible pilot season. I think that was like my second

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<v Speaker 6>second horrible pilot season where I didn't book anything. The

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<v Speaker 6>little jobs that I, you know, was was kind of

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<v Speaker 6>getting in. They were jobs that were kind of just

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<v Speaker 6>keeping the bills paid and keeping your face out there.

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<v Speaker 6>But it really wasn't like making a difference. And so

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<v Speaker 6>I got into point where I was, you know, I

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<v Speaker 6>found myself at this point of transition where I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>well maybe this is maybe this is the point where

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I kind of segue or transition into something else,

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<v Speaker 6>and you know, and I was fine with that because

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<v Speaker 6>I made peace with myself that like, okay, well, as

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<v Speaker 6>an actor that is, or as a performer that if

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<v Speaker 6>that was if this was kind of the end of it,

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<v Speaker 6>then I'll take it. But what ended up happening was

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<v Speaker 6>right across the street from where I was. I was living.

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<v Speaker 6>I was on Sunset and Vine and the Arc Light

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<v Speaker 6>there was the Arc Light theater. In the areas like

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<v Speaker 6>this plaza shopping plaza there, and then that shopping plaza

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<v Speaker 6>was a Locordon Blue culinary school. Yeah. So I'm in,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm in, I'm in this apartment. I'm depressed, not knowing

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<v Speaker 6>what I'm going to do, what the future holds. I

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<v Speaker 6>have my son out there with me. My son is

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<v Speaker 6>like what eight or nine at the time, his mother

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<v Speaker 6>and I were co parenting. She just she just so

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<v Speaker 6>happened to be out in California as well, so we

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<v Speaker 6>were able to co parent and raise our child. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>even as I was out there, you know, trying to

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<v Speaker 6>get a job, and you know, I'm just having one

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<v Speaker 6>of those moments and I'll never forget. My ex girlfriend

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<v Speaker 6>was like, uh, she said, we know how, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I know it's kind of tough right now, but you know,

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<v Speaker 6>keep your creative juices flowing. And the one thing that

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<v Speaker 6>I know that she do love to do is to cook.

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<v Speaker 6>Which I did because I would have friends over. We

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<v Speaker 6>would have kind of like these actor pity parties, and

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<v Speaker 6>you know, you don't have these, you'd have these horrible auditions.

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<v Speaker 6>And so we would get together, you know, in the

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<v Speaker 6>afternoon or in the evening, and we just down bottles

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<v Speaker 6>of wine and we talked about horrible auditions and our

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<v Speaker 6>lives were at that time. And so I would do

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<v Speaker 6>all the cooking for these pity parties. And so my

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<v Speaker 6>ex was like, well, you know you love to cook.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a culinary school across the street. Why don't you

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<v Speaker 6>just so so you're doing something, you're keeping your creative juice.

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<v Speaker 6>Just just go over there and do the orientation. Check

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<v Speaker 6>it out, you know, see if it's something you want

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<v Speaker 6>to do. Sure Enough, I woke up the next day,

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<v Speaker 6>I went to the orientation, fell in love with it,

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<v Speaker 6>enrolled in culinary school. Ended up doing that for about

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<v Speaker 6>the year and a half. I was in the same

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<v Speaker 6>as a matter of fact, I wasn't in the same

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<v Speaker 6>exact class, but I was in the same graduating class

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<v Speaker 6>as Kalise, the singer Calise. She she went to the

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<v Speaker 6>same culinary school, and so you know, I was in

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<v Speaker 6>there for like a year and a half and that

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<v Speaker 6>really kept me balanced and kept me sane because you know,

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<v Speaker 6>as all of us knows as creators and as actors

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<v Speaker 6>and performers, when you're not in that space, it could

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<v Speaker 6>be difficult because you know, I know, at least for me,

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<v Speaker 6>that's that's a huge part of who I am. And

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<v Speaker 6>when I'm not able to express myself creatively and to

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<v Speaker 6>be around other creatives and bouncing off that energy, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like I'm dying. I feel like I'm like

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<v Speaker 6>withering away, you know what I'm saying. So what what

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<v Speaker 6>culinary school did for me and and you know, diving

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<v Speaker 6>into that world was it gave me the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 6>form new relationships that I probably normally, you know, wouldn't

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<v Speaker 6>have been able to. I learned a new skill set,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, something to do professionally and just in case

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<v Speaker 6>I may hit another law or a space where I

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<v Speaker 6>still got to provide and keep a roof over my

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<v Speaker 6>head and you know, take care of my family. That's

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<v Speaker 6>what it did. And it also gave me another creative

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<v Speaker 6>outlet to where you know, even now, when I when

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<v Speaker 6>I think of projects or things that I may want

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<v Speaker 6>to do or develop, That's also another world that I

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<v Speaker 6>could kind of pull into my wheelhouse because I do

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<v Speaker 6>have that experience of going to culinary school and working professionally,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, in the back of the house at certain

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<v Speaker 6>fine dining establishments and you know, knowing knowing what it

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<v Speaker 6>is to you know, worked the line. And so I

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<v Speaker 6>did that. I did that from like eight to twenty ten,

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<v Speaker 6>and it really was it was a humbling experience for me,

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<v Speaker 6>but it was much needed because when things begin to

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<v Speaker 6>kind of pick back up work wise, and the industry

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<v Speaker 6>was providing more opportunities for performance like myself to be

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<v Speaker 6>seen and be heard, I went back into it with

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<v Speaker 6>a you know, a new energy and reconnecting with my

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<v Speaker 6>real purpose, you know, really understanding just how truly fortunate

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<v Speaker 6>and blessed I am, you know, to be working in

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<v Speaker 6>the industry. And so I, you know, although I've always

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<v Speaker 6>taken it seriously and I've always been grateful, coming out

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<v Speaker 6>of that chapter of my life, it just lit an

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<v Speaker 6>even bigger fire up under me. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So to bring it back to summertime, switch, well, your

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<v Speaker 2>character fast Freddy Egan.

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<v Speaker 3>Is in the kitchen, and will you point it out

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<v Speaker 3>You're like I did perfectly poaching eggs.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, how is going to poach?

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<v Speaker 4>You learn how to perfectly poach these, Like he's a chef,

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<v Speaker 4>how is your chef?

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<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden you.

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<v Speaker 6>Back then don't do their c I'll give it. I

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<v Speaker 6>guess it was somebody in the arms department of props.

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<v Speaker 6>They did that.

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<v Speaker 2>It was perfectly poaching.

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<v Speaker 6>It was shadow and that's so hard to do.

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<v Speaker 2>It's incredibly hard to do. That's what they say.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like the way that you you show the skill

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<v Speaker 4>of a chef as you go poach me an egg.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's one of the things they do is

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<v Speaker 2>poach me an egg.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm like, he's he's twelve and he's perfectly poaching

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<v Speaker 4>these eggs every days, Like, how is that happening?

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<v Speaker 6>No way? Because that that's what I got hung up

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<v Speaker 6>with in culinary school because in order to like graduate,

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<v Speaker 6>you have to be able to prepare eggs five different ways,

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<v Speaker 6>and your knife cuts have to be precise. So I

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<v Speaker 6>could get eggs every other way. I can make a

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<v Speaker 6>frenchime like it's nobody's business, but poaching an egg o, no.

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<v Speaker 4>No, that two thousand, two thousand and eight thousand and

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<v Speaker 4>so there was always an old adage that the only

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<v Speaker 4>two businesses in the world that were recession proof were

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<v Speaker 4>the mafia and the entertainment industry. And then two thousand

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<v Speaker 4>and eight, two thousand and nine hit and that all changed.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, obviously, I'm not speaking for the mafia.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea. They probably did very well.

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<v Speaker 4>But the entertainment industry, I mean it was struggling, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean really struggling.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it was bad.

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<v Speaker 3>We had the strike too, I mean that's the thing, like,

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<v Speaker 3>it was all, yeah, we're kind of we're kind of

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<v Speaker 3>in it again. I know, I don't know how people

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<v Speaker 3>make money, like I don't understand it anymore, or I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know how you and how the companies make motes.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't either, which is why a lot of these

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<v Speaker 4>companies aren't. They're losing money hand over fist, and you

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<v Speaker 4>know it's it's the Netflix model isn't working. Eventually everyone

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<v Speaker 4>has a subscription, and where do you go from you

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<v Speaker 4>so you know it's yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Jason, we cannot thank you enough for coming and

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<v Speaker 1>spending this hour with us reminiscing about your incredible career,

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<v Speaker 1>most notably the phenomenon that is summertime switch yeah, the fans.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the shoe.

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<v Speaker 6>That's right, That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. I just thank you so much. It was such

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<v Speaker 1>a pleasure talking to you. You are so inspiring and

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<v Speaker 1>motivational and all those things. So thank you for being

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<v Speaker 1>a person we can all look up to and for

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<v Speaker 1>spending some time with us.

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<v Speaker 2>So great to see you, and thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>No writer, Danielle will thank you guys so much. This

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<v Speaker 6>is This has been a fantastic hour and I've been

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<v Speaker 6>able to spend with you all. You know, I've admired

1:12:27.160 --> 1:12:30.519
<v Speaker 6>you guys so much throughout the years, and to be

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<v Speaker 6>able to share that with you all face to face

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<v Speaker 6>and do via zoom to let you know how much

1:12:35.600 --> 1:12:38.320
<v Speaker 6>I've enjoyed you all's work over the years and and

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<v Speaker 6>just even now this this chapter and this this time

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<v Speaker 6>in our lives as adults who were able to reconnect. Uh,

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<v Speaker 6>this has just been a joy for me.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 6>This has really made my day. And I wish you

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<v Speaker 6>all continued success. This show is hugely popular. I'm going

1:12:52.240 --> 1:12:54.479
<v Speaker 6>to continue to support it. I love it because you

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<v Speaker 6>guys are going on tour as well. Are you guys

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<v Speaker 6>coming to Atlanta?

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<v Speaker 2>Not on this first round?

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<v Speaker 6>Will do me a favorite if you guys are ever

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<v Speaker 6>in Atlanta or Chicago, make sure you call me because

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<v Speaker 6>I would love to come and see you guys lives. Yes,

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<v Speaker 6>because this is great.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely do that. Also, I just want to throw it

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<v Speaker 1>out there. What about summertime? Switch to you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>counselors and this time it's sum time here some time.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have to play basketball.

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<v Speaker 3>You do not.

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<v Speaker 2>You can give me a basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>We will, don't worry. We know you're not into the

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<v Speaker 1>sports ball, I promise.

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<v Speaker 6>But I would definitely be open to working with writer

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<v Speaker 6>a cat that wants to be a ball, I'm down

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<v Speaker 6>for it as long as.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, that's what they wanted to hear. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Jon, Thanks.

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<v Speaker 6>Jason, good afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you too. Oh man, what an absolute unsant human being.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you went a different way.

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<v Speaker 4>Just a confusion O God, yeah, God, what a pro.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you talk about being a triple threat, like

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<v Speaker 3>you can sing, you can dance, you can act, you

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<v Speaker 3>have insane success in all three areas by the age

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<v Speaker 3>of fourteen. I mean, that's why I felt like, you

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<v Speaker 3>know he was so much older, is because when we

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<v Speaker 3>showed up on that set, like he was there to

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<v Speaker 3>work and knew what that.

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<v Speaker 2>Meant, and he stole it toole.

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<v Speaker 3>He stole the meeting, and like I had no idea

1:14:34.120 --> 1:14:35.479
<v Speaker 3>what I was doing, you know, it was just like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>plug and Plush show up and I'll figure out what

1:14:38.120 --> 1:14:41.479
<v Speaker 3>acting means. Like he was already and it really you know,

1:14:41.600 --> 1:14:44.360
<v Speaker 3>like having a mom like his, you know, because we're

1:14:44.400 --> 1:14:47.040
<v Speaker 3>all protected by our parents, Like we've all talked about

1:14:47.040 --> 1:14:49.120
<v Speaker 3>it on the show, but when you're protected by your

1:14:49.120 --> 1:14:51.639
<v Speaker 3>parents and they have a little bit of knowledge about

1:14:51.640 --> 1:14:54.320
<v Speaker 3>how the industry actually works, it can go a long way,

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<v Speaker 3>I know for you, Like, my parents had no clue

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<v Speaker 3>what was going on, and we just got lucky that

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<v Speaker 3>my first agent was Judy's Savage again no relation to

1:15:01.560 --> 1:15:05.400
<v Speaker 3>events Savage and she was still to this day like

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<v Speaker 3>one of my parents' closest friends. Like I just got

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<v Speaker 3>so lucky because she was such a pro and protected

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<v Speaker 3>me in a way that you know, my parents couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>because they didn't have the knowledge, they didn't have a

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<v Speaker 3>skill set, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but he's also I mean, in any career, especially

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<v Speaker 4>when you start as a child, anything that you do,

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<v Speaker 4>if you get one project that endures where thirty years later,

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<v Speaker 4>people still remember it you have hit a home run.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got like five, I know, he's got all of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's insane.

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<v Speaker 4>You get when when the third thing you talk about

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<v Speaker 4>is the Lion King, right, It's like, are you kidding me?

1:15:39.600 --> 1:15:43.120
<v Speaker 2>That was third of It's incredible, amazing, amazing. And he's

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<v Speaker 2>still working, he's still just playing great shows, two shows, right,

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<v Speaker 2>He's just he's a lifer.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's so great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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