1 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: The John Anick and Kenny Florian Podcast. 2 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 2: John Annick and Kenny Florian. 3 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 3: I love him. I can't get enough of him. 4 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: Turn out. 5 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 4: There are a couple of absolutely self involved. 6 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: You're your hosts, John Anick and Kenny Florian. 7 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 5: There is just something so comforting after a UFC pay 8 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 5: per view, sitting down in this seat, staring at Kenny's face, 9 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,319 Speaker 5: knowing he's so excited to talk about a UFC pay 10 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 5: per view that's so delivered. We knew something special was 11 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 5: gonna happen one way or another in Lee's last two 12 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 5: fights in Abu Dhabi, and sure as shit it did. 13 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 5: Welcome in, good Monday to you might be a different 14 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 5: day wherever you are. I was on a metal tube 15 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 5: for seventeen hours and twenty minutes yesterday. So I'm in 16 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 5: South Florida now. It's episode five twenty two of the 17 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 5: Anticanploran Podcast. We're live on YouTube today eleven am Eastern 18 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 5: on the Screws. It is Monday, October twenty eighth. The 19 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 5: year is twenty twenty four. Ken Flow three times challenge 20 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 5: for a UFC World title. 21 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: How are we doing? 22 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 4: Kid? 23 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: That was fun this weekend? Was it not? It was 24 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 2: a lot of fun. 25 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 4: Man, what an amazing card, dude, so much to talk about, 26 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 4: But boy do we get a lot of answers. Man 27 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 4: on Saturday. On Saturday, I was gonna say Saturday night 28 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 4: a Saurday afternoon for us. 29 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, And I think our producer would absolutely 30 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 5: kill me if I led the show with Kamzat Chimayev 31 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 5: and not ilit So Podia. So I will lead the 32 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 5: show with El Campion. But what an amazing event. And 33 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 5: I do have to say, as I often do, the 34 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 5: hospitality in the Middle East is outstanding. 35 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: If you're someone. 36 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 5: Who holds doors for people in life, if you are 37 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 5: someone who says thank you in life and enjoys when 38 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 5: someone says you're fucking welcome, go to Abu Dhabi, right Like, 39 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 5: I'm not like these basketball teams who have the experience 40 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 5: Abu Dhabi on my shirts just yet can flow. But 41 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 5: isn't it nice when you say thank you? Everybody in 42 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 5: that country seemingly says you're welcome. 43 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 4: I love it. That's what I want for my kids. 44 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 4: I try to get them on that train, you know 45 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 4: a little bit. It does feel good when I actually 46 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 4: say thank you and please, And yeah. 47 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 5: We do have a lot of UFC fans who travel 48 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 5: from different places to see our live events in Abu Dhabi, 49 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 5: maybe more so than when we do live events in 50 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 5: other pockets of the world, people from Germany and other 51 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 5: countries all over the world. And I will say, man, 52 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 5: we get absolutely bombarded in that hotel lobby. This time, 53 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 5: Ken Fel we met at Bruce Buffer's door and we 54 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 5: were escorted through the lobby because it is. It's a 55 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 5: crazy photo shoot situation, but just amazing, welcome there for 56 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 5: the UFC and its athletes, and always great to be 57 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 5: back in the United States of America. You know, I 58 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 5: tweeted out at emoji the stars and stripes and I 59 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 5: don't know. I mean, X is what it is, right, 60 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 5: Twitter is what it is. But some people took issue 61 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 5: with it. I said, my man, what exactly is the problem? 62 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 5: Like I just got off a metal two for seventeen 63 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 5: hours of just you know, pushing out an American flag 64 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 5: of boats because I'm happy to be back in the 65 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 5: United States of America. 66 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, anyway, great to have everybody with us. 67 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 5: Live edition of the ancon Florian podcast coming up in 68 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 5: about a half an hour. Raymond Peter Longo, we will 69 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 5: also be joined by one of my broadcast partners over 70 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 5: the weekend, the Iron Lung Paul Felder. And on the 71 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 5: back end we will dive right back into the UFC 72 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 5: Live events UFC Fight Night Moreno versus al Bosi Beckins 73 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 5: this weekend Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. So we'll have Brian Petrie 74 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 5: for some selections there and Ken Flows puffing out his 75 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 5: chest after a big weekend. 76 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: Headline's brought to you by Quervo. 77 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 5: Now's a good time to enjoy the tequila that invented, 78 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 5: Tequila Topuria and still UFC Featherweight Champion. He gets it 79 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 5: done by knockout at one thirty four of round three. 80 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 5: Max Blessed Holloway ever gracious in defeat, but Ken Flow 81 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 5: Ilia Topuria the real deal and that probably doesn't even 82 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 5: begin to describe it. 83 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: Your thoughts on the main event. 84 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, Toporia is something different, guys, and and uh, you 85 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 4: know the way that he moves, the way that he 86 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 4: puts it all together. This is a very sophisticated operator 87 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 4: that for me prove that he is the best fighter 88 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,239 Speaker 4: in the UFC at the present moment. 89 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: All the way around. You look at the last two guys, 90 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: that he's beaten, just that. 91 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 4: Alone, his willingness to always learn from his mistakes to 92 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 4: really shine when the lights are brightest. This this guy 93 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 4: is something different, and it's the special kind of guys 94 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 4: like the Tolpurias that will raise the level of fighting 95 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 4: overall in the future, because people are going to be 96 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 4: chasing him now, not chasing his belt, chasing his skills. 97 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 2: This is what he brings. 98 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 4: It's a completely different level when it comes to especially 99 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 4: the striking game. This guy. 100 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,239 Speaker 2: Is different and he's the champ for a reason. 101 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 5: Man, I'd like you to expand upon that. I also 102 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 5: want to dive into this fight specifically. Max Holloway got 103 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 5: some things done in this fight, and certainly part of 104 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 5: this fight was Ilia Toportia's ability to eat some of 105 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 5: those volume shots from Max Holloway. Even though two of 106 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 5: the three judges did have Ilia Topoitia winning the first 107 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 5: two rounds, he certainly landed the bigger shots. I don't 108 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 5: really necessarily even know where to begin when it comes 109 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 5: to this athlete as a whole, but I guess I 110 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 5: would just go to something he said during fight week, 111 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 5: and it was about MMA development, and he was very 112 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 5: respectful of Max Holloway, but he also hasn't necessarily seen 113 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 5: wholesale changes in his game, and I think it speaks 114 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 5: to Topoitier's broad willingness to try to be a lead 115 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 5: in all phases. And if he had to go in 116 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 5: there and just beat you in a kickboxing if he 117 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 5: had to go in there and beat you in a 118 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 5: Brazilian jiu jitsu match, seemingly he's the best guy at 119 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 5: every discipline right now. 120 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I would say I think that it can 121 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 4: be easy to look at past performances and get very 122 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 4: excited about them and no offense of Korean Zombie and 123 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 4: no offense to Justin Gaetchie. They are tremendous warriors, but 124 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 4: they are just not on the level of someone like 125 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,679 Speaker 4: a Topuria. And you know, both of those guys pressure 126 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 4: just like Topouria pressures, and one can see from the 127 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 4: outside and go, well, this is just an easy fight. 128 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 2: Holloway's gonna do what he does. 129 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 4: He did it against two pressure fighters before He's gonna 130 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 4: do the same thing. 131 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: Topouria defensively is so much. 132 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 4: More sound than every single UFC fighter out there right now. 133 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 4: Just his fundamentals and how he holds his stance he's 134 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 4: always ready to punch, and he's already in a good 135 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 4: defensive posture, and because of that, he can make. 136 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: You pay with counters. 137 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 4: He can take shots off the shoulder, he can roll 138 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 4: them off the top of his head, he can roll 139 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 4: them off the top of his hands, and. 140 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 2: Be defensively responsible all the time and be ready to punch. 141 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:04,239 Speaker 2: And that is huge. 142 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 4: And because he contains that or he has that kind 143 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 4: of level of power, and he has that level of composure, 144 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 4: he knows when to strike. Man, he really is like 145 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 4: a snake. He coils up just like a snake, and 146 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 4: when he strikes you, he injects a poison that not 147 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 4: many people can withstand. 148 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 5: Dude, the collectedness really reminds me of Poeton, the way 149 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 5: these guys just seemingly approach these championship fights. But Ilya 150 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,239 Speaker 5: Topoli's twenty seven. He started Brazilian jiu jitsu at four. 151 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 5: I believe he moved to Georgia when he was seven 152 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 5: and started wrestling. But Kenny, he's more than willing to 153 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 5: engage a Max Holloway, who is one of the best 154 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 5: boxers in the UFC in that realm, And I'm not 155 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 5: sure wrestling was really going to ever be part of 156 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 5: the equation here nor grappling. I am truly blown away 157 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 5: by this Ilia Toportia, and as you contextualize this year 158 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 5: for him, it's interesting when you talk about what elects 159 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 5: PA has done, and certainly UFC three hundred in UFC 160 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 5: three of three as examples monster shows to be sure, 161 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 5: But if Alexander Volkanowski is the greatest featherweight of all 162 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 5: time and Max Holloway is one A and maybe Jose 163 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 5: Aldo is two or one B, because Max Holloway has 164 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 5: two wins over him and Alexander Volkanovsky has three wins 165 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 5: over Max Holloway, he has not only beat these two 166 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 5: gentlemen back to back, he's beat them relatively close to 167 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 5: their fighting primes. You can say what you will about 168 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 5: folks quick turnaround, and we'll get into that more in 169 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 5: a little bit, But what else can be said about 170 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 5: knocking out these two gentlemens, these two gentlemen inside of 171 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 5: a calendar year, when Toilpolia is like four or five 172 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 5: years maybe away from his fighting prime. 173 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 4: I don't know, John, The conversation's over. We have our 174 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 4: fighter of the year. It's Iliot Telpuria. There's no other 175 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 4: guy right now that I could see beating legendary fighters 176 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 4: like that in one calendar here by finish. Again, this 177 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 4: is something very very different that we have in our hands. 178 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 4: And we have a legit superstar now in Eliot Toporia, 179 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 4: And you know, there's guy. There's only certain guys that 180 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 4: come into the game that can do things that other 181 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 4: people can't do. He's leading the way with his striking 182 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 4: and his approach. It's not like he's doing anything crazy. 183 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 4: It's just his tremendous fundamentals and all the work he's 184 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 4: been putting into into his game. But you know, in 185 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 4: the postfight press conference, he was speaking in Spanish, but 186 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 4: you could see his intelligence of how he thinks about 187 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 4: the game, and they were talking about his takedown earlier 188 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 4: on Halloway and he's like, I just did that just 189 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 4: to throw something different at Max Holloway, to get him 190 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 4: to be worried about something else besides my striking. And 191 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 4: once he knew that I was going to be able 192 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 4: to take him down, I knew the striking was going 193 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 4: to be easier, and it was just again, it's kind 194 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 4: of simple in that regard, but to execute like that, 195 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 4: oh right, Yeah, you made. 196 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 5: The segue for me, what about just the ability to 197 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 5: execute when it matters most? Right, I just feel like 198 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 5: there's a wisdom that belies his years. But also when 199 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 5: you talk about Holloway's experience, and I trotted out this number, 200 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 5: thirty seven point five percent of Max Holloway's life on 201 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 5: the roster, what do you say about Elliot Toporti's just 202 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 5: ability to execute when the lights are bright, and just 203 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 5: to handle everything that comes with this whole experience. It's 204 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 5: not an NBA game, right, there's a weight cut and 205 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 5: you're fighting another human being. What do you have for 206 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 5: us on the particular execution of this individual at twenty seven? 207 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's an amazing competitor. 208 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: And I talked about this. You see these traits. What 209 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: are these traits? 210 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 4: The ability to execute when you need to, The ability 211 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 4: to go five hard rounds against a game opponent like 212 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 4: a josh Emmett, the ability to come back when you're 213 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 4: hurt Ji Herbert of the ability to still execute when 214 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 4: you're tired against guys like Zilal. He proved this and 215 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 4: he got the right experience at the right time to 216 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 4: go out there and do this against guys like Volkonovsky, 217 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 4: to do this against guys like Max Holloway, and for 218 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 4: all of those reasons, I think this is a guy 219 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 4: that may hold onto the belt for a very long time. 220 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 4: And he's he's the best fighter in the world right 221 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 4: now when it comes to mixed martial arts. Man, I 222 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 4: truly truly believe. 223 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 5: That Islam Makashev then right on his heels. Is that 224 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 5: fair to say in your mind? 225 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 4: I think so absolutely, And and as good as Mahaschef 226 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 4: is and he might just be able to out wrestle 227 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 4: Tolpuria for sure, but as far as all around skills everywhere, 228 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 4: there's no one more dangerous and complete than to Puri. 229 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 4: Right now. This is the new generation. 230 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 5: Dude has submissions in variants. I don't even think people 231 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 5: understand exactly acutely what we're dealing with here right Henflon 232 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 5: one day is gonna say I was honored to have 233 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 5: cornered against the great Ili. 234 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 2: Right he's that good man. 235 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 6: I really do so. 236 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 5: In terms of spinning this thing, and we will have 237 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 5: plenty on Max Holloway, and when Ray Longo comes in, 238 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 5: we're gonna have plenty more on Ilia Topolia. But in 239 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 5: terms of his next title defense, I'm a betting man. 240 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 5: I would bet a lot of money He's not going 241 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 5: to Sydney in February to face Alexander Volkanovsky. But seemingly 242 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 5: that is going to be the next fight and not 243 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 5: Diego Lopez. Is it fair me to ask you what 244 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 5: you think is an easier preparation and or fight for 245 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 5: Topodia Diego Lopez or Alexander Volkanovsky. I mean, let me 246 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 5: just say this, I know you're ready to go. I 247 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 5: didn't even need to fucking stall for you. Volk's gonna 248 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 5: have more time to prepare and more time to rest 249 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 5: his brain and all of those things. Theoretically, I mean, 250 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 5: far be it from any of us to doubt Alexander Volkanovski. 251 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 2: Right, But seemingly the. 252 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 5: Bigger money fight is Vulk for myriad reasons. But Diego Lopez, 253 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 5: in my mind, might be the more challenging guy for 254 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 5: whom to prepare. 255 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm wrong. 256 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 4: I think that from a skills perspective, Volkanovsky is more 257 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 4: of a challenge. I think that Lopez still gets hit 258 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 4: a great deal in his fights, and I don't know. 259 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 4: I would say his chin is probably more substantial at 260 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 4: this point than Volkanovski's is so for that reason, I 261 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 4: think it's interesting. But skill wise all the way around, 262 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 4: I think Volkanovski is a tougher out for Tolporia. 263 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 2: But as of right now, I just I don't see 264 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: either of. 265 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 4: Those guys beating Ilia at this stage. 266 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 5: So do you feel like Diego Lopez certainly could use 267 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 5: some more developmental time, right, and maybe even though he 268 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 5: weighed in, is the backup? This is a blessing in disguise. 269 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 2: I think it would help, There's no question about it. 270 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 4: He's got the length, right, He's durable, he's good on 271 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 4: the ground as well, no question about that. But perhaps, 272 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 4: you know, bagging another fight to get that much more 273 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 4: experience I think would help. But Ili is ahead in 274 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 4: the skills department against both those men. 275 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 5: Diego Lopez is also a very big featherweight. I'll just 276 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 5: inject that into the equations. Well, but KENFLLL, here in 277 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 5: lies the problem, and I'm just talking from a Diego 278 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 5: Lopez perspective. Just for a second, best of luck, right 279 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 5: getting through that next one. Right, It's great in theory 280 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 5: to accrue that experience against mobsarr Ivloyev again or al 281 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 5: Jemaine Sterling, right, but if you lose the fight, the 282 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 5: championship fight never happens, you know. So, but yes, great 283 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 5: decision by Vulcan his team to be there and he 284 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 5: was sort of ushered into the octagon and that will 285 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 5: be the next title defense, and hopefully it's in Madrid, 286 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 5: you know. I think that is really where the focus 287 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 5: is going to be for ely at Topoli. I think 288 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 5: he's probably gonna drink some nice red wine for now 289 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 5: and enjoy the fruits. I don't think it'll be Sydney, 290 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 5: but it will be Alexander Volkanowski. As far as Max 291 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 5: Holloway is concerned, Ken Flow, I do know a lot 292 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 5: of people who like that plus five hundred proposition on 293 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 5: Ilio Topolia by knockout. They just felt like over twenty 294 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 5: five minutes, even though historically Max Holloway had not been 295 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 5: knocked out, and even though now we can tell you 296 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 5: per Tyler Minton, this was the best weight cut of 297 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 5: his career, but you know, Ilia Topolia is a knockout 298 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 5: artist and he was able to get it done. Have 299 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 5: for us on Max Holloway in defeat and where would 300 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 5: you like to see him weight class and otherwise next man. 301 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 4: Max is an absolute stud I do think though, that 302 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 4: his best weight class is going to be one hundred 303 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 4: and fifty five pounds. I think that at this point 304 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 4: in his career, you know, he's a huge featherweight, and 305 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 4: while I do believe that it probably was his best 306 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 4: weightcut at one forty five for a long time, I 307 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 4: think that he can put out his best performances at 308 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty five pounds. I think I don't 309 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 4: think he's going to be short on power, He's not 310 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 4: going to be short on size in that weight class. 311 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 4: I think we could see more from Max Holloway there 312 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 4: and he has more opportunities to challenge for the belt 313 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 4: in that weight class in my opinion, that he does 314 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 4: it won forty five at this stage, so I think 315 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 4: it makes a lot of sense. 316 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: And Max is still an absolute legend. 317 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 4: Had a great performances, found some success against to Poria, 318 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 4: particularly with that jab and those commodations, but in the end, 319 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 4: till Poia was able to get him where, get him 320 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 4: up you know most of the cage where he does 321 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 4: a lot of that damage, and even Holloway's legendary chin 322 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 4: could withstand the power. 323 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 5: Several fighter meetings ago, Max Holloway intimated to us that 324 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 5: he would take a UFC fight in middleweight, never mind welterweight. Right, 325 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 5: so he definitely has visions of taking a fight at 326 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 5: seventy before all is said and done, and certainly his 327 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 5: is a frame. I think that with a different strength 328 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 5: and conditioning regimen could put on muscle mass. He sort 329 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 5: of dismissed the notion that he put on a bunch 330 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 5: of muscle for the Gaitchee fight, But yes, there's no 331 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 5: reason to cut the weight anymore now that seemingly the 332 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 5: championship path at one forty five is non existential. So 333 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 5: the lightweight division is commanded by Islami Kashev. There's also 334 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 5: the possibility of a BMF title defense. But I think 335 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 5: you and I both would like to see Max Holloway 336 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 5: chase the undisputed lightweight title, right. 337 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, man, and he can do it. Yeah, so 338 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: real quick. 339 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 5: Ken Flow and I spent some time with ourman Saragyan 340 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 5: in uh In Abu Dhabi. We were in the same 341 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 5: row at power Slap and then he politely asked me 342 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 5: to move treadmills when Kamza Chimayev was cutting weight on 343 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 5: Friday morning, so I thought he was trying to talk 344 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 5: to me. 345 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 2: He was really just looking for an entry point. Maybe 346 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 2: he didn't even know. 347 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 5: I was like, dude, can you fucking move over please 348 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 5: so we could have an empty treadmill next to coms 349 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 5: ut So. Dustin Poirier tweeted that he wants Max Holloway 350 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 5: or Ilia per my producer Cody Merrow, but Ken Flow, yeah, 351 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 5: I mean, Arman is the number one contender. 352 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 2: He's gonna fight Islam. 353 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 5: You got Charles Olivera fighting Michael Chandler, and it stands 354 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 5: to reason that the winner of Olivera Chandler wouldn't need 355 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 5: a fight. You know, I would love to see Max 356 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 5: Holloway rematch Charles Olivera. They had a main event in 357 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 5: Saskatoon that ended with a Charles Olivera injury. 358 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 2: That fight makes a lot of sense. 359 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 5: Certainly a third fight between Poorier and Holloway, I think 360 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 5: makes some sense as well, Ken Flow, anything jump out 361 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 5: at you there as we populate the top fifteen here 362 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 5: internally or what? 363 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 7: Dang? 364 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 2: You give me some good options man. 365 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 4: First of all, you know the the the till Porty, 366 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 4: the Holloway Olivera fight makes a lot of sense. I 367 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 4: love that fight, but I think the Poorier fight makes 368 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 4: a lot of sense for a BMF title as well. 369 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 4: At one hundred and fifty five pounds, why not. Yeah, 370 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 4: I don't think Poria wants to do one at fifty five. 371 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 4: I think that's a fight that makes a lot of sense, 372 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 4: especially given their history. 373 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 5: And I also think too, what you really could do 374 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 5: and promotionally, maybe what I would do if you have 375 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 5: Mahasha versus Sauru Kiyan and then your co main event 376 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 5: is Max Holloway in defense of the BMF belt against 377 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 5: We'll see what happens with Michael Chandler and Charles Olivera 378 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 5: and Madison Square Garden and probably a good time to 379 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 5: let you know that I'm wearing right now. 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You can actually go to John 385 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 5: Ant dot com with promo code one More Sleep if 386 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 5: you do want to get fifteen percent off, if you 387 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 5: want to pay full price and support the Anakin Florian 388 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 5: podcast by all means you can do. 389 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 4: That, all right? 390 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 5: Well, I just have to say about both of these individuals. 391 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 5: Gracious mixed martial artist Kenny Right, we talked about the 392 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 5: self believing spaniard Ilia Topodia and all of the confidence 393 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 5: and sometimes misinterpreted or misunderstood as a human being. Do 394 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 5: you see how much grace he has towards these all 395 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 5: time great featherweights Volkanovsky and Holloway. Topoli is a very 396 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 5: hard guy to dislike, and he certainly has a huge 397 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 5: fan base, not even just in Spain and Georgia, but 398 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 5: world widen. 399 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 2: For me, when I'm around him, it's really easy to 400 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 2: see why. 401 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 4: The paint from Spain? Is that how you're talking about? Yeah, dude, 402 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 4: I think that I stole it from you. I think 403 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 4: that you know, this is a guy. You can't get 404 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 4: to that skill level John without being some kind of 405 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 4: an MMA historian in this sport, right, And I think 406 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 4: all the things that he said about Holloway and Volkanovsky 407 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 4: indicates that. And I also think that he realized, listen, 408 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 4: I'm the champ. I'm the defending champ. Now, I don't 409 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 4: need to go full heal anymore, you know, and he 410 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 4: realizes that his performances are doing his marketing for him now, 411 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 4: so he can he could show his respect. And I 412 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 4: think that that was, you know, largely kind of a 413 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 4: marketing ploy for him to get to where he's at. 414 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 4: And now he's letting his skills speak for him and 415 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 4: uh yeah, he's he's smooth sailing now. 416 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 5: Congratulations to the still twenty seven year old UFC featherweight 417 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 5: champion Ilia Topuria. Great to have everybody with us live 418 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 5: today Anakin Florian podcast here on YouTube. 419 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 2: Kam zat she Maya. I was just arms to my sides, 420 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 2: like what are we gonna say now? Like, what are 421 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 2: you gonna say now? I didn't even know what I said. 422 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 5: Hamza Chimaya of Ken Flow gets it done at three 423 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 5: point thirty four of round one against Robert Whitaker. The 424 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 5: submission comes due to a face crank. On the record, 425 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 5: I'll just lay out and let the six stripe Brazilian 426 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 5: Jiu Jitsu Black Kenny Flory and talk us through the 427 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 5: brilliance of Kamzha. Shimaiyev just shoots for a takedown as 428 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 5: if his life depends on it, puts Whitaker in a 429 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 5: bad spot and you know, backs up his teeth into 430 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 5: his mouth and heads. 431 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 4: Gosh, I only have five stripes, by the way, John, 432 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 4: I'm not that old, but dude, this guy is an 433 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 4: absolute menace of a grappler. And you know, it was 434 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 4: a good sign when I saw a more reserved Homzat's 435 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 4: still intense, but a more reserved, a more confident Homza, 436 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 4: just with the things that he was saying, the way 437 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 4: he was approaching this game, how he isolated himself into 438 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 4: the mountains of Russia. 439 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 2: I saw this as a good sign. 440 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 4: And this is a fighter that is maturing, that is 441 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 4: getting better, and similar to Toporia, has experienced certain things 442 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 4: like the Gilbert Burns fight, like the Uzman fight, has 443 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 4: fought high level guys and has had to experience it's 444 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 4: in cage adversity, and he's always responded pretty well to 445 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 4: those things. But to go out there and dominate a 446 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 4: former champion, a legend like Robert Whittaker shows that he's 447 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 4: at a different level in his career right now. And 448 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 4: I mean, there wasn't one thing that I could point to, 449 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 4: unfortunately for Whittaker that was like at least some kind 450 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 4: of a good sign. 451 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 2: This was all chimaiyav all the time. What was the 452 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: miles per hour on the takedown entry? 453 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 7: Right? 454 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 5: Oftentimes, when I talk about the NFL and the relatively 455 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 5: violent nature of it compared to combat sports, part of 456 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 5: it is that you can only get going so fast 457 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 5: inside the octagon to cause concussive damage. Now, sharl Bullet 458 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 5: would probably talk to you about his mph on that 459 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 5: double spinning backfist, right, But when Jorge Mosfidal need Ben Askrin, right, 460 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 5: what was his miles per hour? 461 00:22:59,320 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 6: Right? 462 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 2: I mean kamzat Chimaya of that entry. 463 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 5: Man, Gosh, you know it's coming and the next thing 464 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 5: you know, you know you're having mouth surgery. 465 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 4: It's like someone shot him out of a rubber band. 466 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 4: Like the shots and the reshots are so quick. This 467 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 4: is again like to aporia an a class athlete as 468 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 4: you like to call them. 469 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 2: It's just different. 470 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 4: And when you have the skills to back that up, man, 471 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 4: these are the guys that are gonna be the champs. 472 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 2: Now, these are the guys that are gonna be elite 473 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 2: anyway in the division. Before you'd either. 474 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 4: Kind of get a class athletes with not much skill 475 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 4: or guys with a lot of skill. Who aren't necessarily 476 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 4: these eight class athletes and Chimaya toporia. They're the combination 477 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 4: of both of these things. Man, and uh, there's something special. 478 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 5: I don't know how many times out of ten Robert Whittaker, 479 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 5: on the strength of a great training camp like that, 480 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 5: beats kamzat Chimaya of over twenty five minutes scheduled. I 481 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 5: don't know, right, And certainly, if this fight was allowed 482 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 5: to marinate a little bit longer, a lot of people 483 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 5: felt as though the pendulum would swing. I don't think 484 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 5: for those people that saw betting value on Robert Whittaker 485 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 5: that you should rethink your whole handicapping process. 486 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 6: Right. 487 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 5: Certainly, when I sat down with him, I felt like 488 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 5: he had a great chance to be competitive in the fight. 489 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 5: But Dana White and Humbling, myself and many other people 490 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 5: have been saying ken Flow really since twenty twenty that 491 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 5: we have absolutely no point of comparison when it comes 492 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 5: to kamzat Chimaya, and that is everything, just the electricity 493 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 5: and the energy that he brings to an arena, even 494 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 5: in a subdued nature. Here he starts walking out. Dude, 495 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 5: the sports fan in me, I'm effectively freaking out, and 496 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 5: yet I have a microphone and I have to figure 497 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 5: this thing out, right, So saying nothing of the incompetition stuff, 498 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 5: the ultimate competitor that we saw against Gilbertarino Burns, He 499 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 5: just to me brings so much energy to this MMA 500 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 5: space and then to go out and do that and 501 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 5: almost just the Michael Jordan shrug over to Dana White like, 502 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 5: I am completely captivated by the guy, and with respect 503 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 5: to a very deserving Sean Strickland. For me, my appetite 504 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 5: for a drinkist du plus c kamzat Chimaya Middleway Championship 505 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 5: fight is healthier than maybe for any mixed martial arts 506 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 5: contest of my lifetime, because I have no idea what 507 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 5: is going to happen, but just the overall strength and 508 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 5: will and bro like, can I just not call that 509 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 5: fight and just lay back in the cut? I mean, 510 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 5: I am so excited about Shemaia, but I don't even 511 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:30,719 Speaker 5: even know what to say. 512 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 4: A book it, book it, that's the fight. And here's 513 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 4: the thing, this guy can compete one hundred and seventy 514 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 4: pounds as well. I think one eighty five is the 515 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 4: division he should stick to. But again, there's just not 516 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 4: a whole lot of guys that could do that to 517 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 4: someone like Robert Whittaker, And that was just kind of 518 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 4: the cherry on top for me that Chimaya is ready, 519 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 4: that he's taking his career very seriously. If he can 520 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 4: stay healthy, John, this is not only a future champ, 521 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 4: but a true superstar of the game. 522 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 5: Then so doctor Matteo Cappadaglio working on the nutrition. 523 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 2: He also has a physician alongside. 524 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 5: I do think the weight cut went a little bit 525 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 5: longer than they would have liked. 526 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 2: You know. 527 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 5: I was on the treadmill next to him at seven 528 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 5: fifteen in the morning and there was actually a quote 529 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 5: on embedded where it looked like they were tracking away 530 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 5: in closer to nine and he ended up being the 531 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 5: last fighter away in with about twelve minutes to go. 532 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 5: But I would agree with you right if push came 533 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 5: to shove, I do believe he could make one hundred 534 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 5: and seventy pounds for a championship fight. Perhaps that would 535 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 5: be with some promotional risk if he had not made 536 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 5: it prior, but certainly with this team around him and 537 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 5: the married to the game approach, I mean, he's always overtrained. 538 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 2: I think now he's scaling it back a little. 539 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 5: Bit, but my gosh, man, the appetite that I would 540 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 5: think a lot of fans would have to watch this 541 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 5: individual compete after what we just saw would be absolutely 542 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 5: through the roof. I was worried about my ability to 543 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 5: be able to articulate myself on this subject today, and 544 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 5: it's rearing its ugly hit. I can't even talk cleanly 545 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 5: on this man, Kenny, Like, I am. 546 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 2: A massive, massive, massive. 547 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 5: Fan, and you know how much I love the middleweight champion, 548 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 5: But like, dude, like, what the fuck, man? 549 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 4: What? 550 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 2: This guy's absolutely incredible? 551 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 5: Like dude, Like, people have criticized me for comparing him 552 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 5: to like Bow Nicol and Raoul Rosas Junior in terms 553 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 5: of the energy in arena, And yeah, I guess maybe 554 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 5: you know, maybe there really is no comp. 555 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 4: Well, you've been onto it since the beginning, since the 556 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 4: first time you saw him fight. You were blown away 557 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 4: by his performances and everyone after that, and I think 558 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 4: that he has proven you to be right, that he 559 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 4: is the real deal and that he will or is 560 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 4: a massive superstar. And what's so cool about this is 561 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 4: for him to get the belt. If he was able 562 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 4: to get that done against someone like a Drinkist Dupulus 563 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 4: for example, or whoever it is, Strickland. There's so many 564 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 4: more matchups left for him still, I mean, is he's 565 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 4: in the mix, there's a bunch of guys. I mean, so, 566 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 4: I again, this is a division that is at its 567 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 4: best right now in the UFC. 568 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 2: And you know, Chimaya just. 569 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 4: Did everything he needed to do and more to get 570 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 4: that next shot. 571 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 5: Chimay have had buckets of respect for Robert Whittaker. The 572 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 5: only thing he did say and this was just competitive 573 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 5: and I shouldn't even have framed it in that context 574 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 5: because it was not disrespectful. But he felt as though 575 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 5: Kamaro Usman was maybe the tougher fight or the hardest 576 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 5: fight that he would have had for his career. 577 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 2: And he said this before the fight. 578 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 5: Now, I know Kamara Usman did not have a training camp, right, 579 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 5: but there were things about this matchup that you liked 580 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 5: for Hamza Chimayav that he liked for himself. But I 581 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 5: don't think maybe even in his dream scenario did he. 582 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 5: I guess for Hamza when he was asked about twenty 583 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 5: five minutes, he's like, no, I go in there and 584 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 5: I smash it. But Kenny I mean, you loved him 585 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 5: in the fight, but I don't think you thought three 586 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 5: point thirty four of round one, did you? 587 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 2: Maybe he didn't. No, I wasn't sure. 588 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 4: I know he had the ability to get it done early, 589 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 4: just because he's an absolute whirlwind of energy and grappling prowess, 590 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 4: you know. 591 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 2: And and again. 592 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 4: When I have seen Whittaker vulnerable, it's been on his back. 593 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 4: And yes, he was a little bit hurt there against 594 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 4: Tricky tuple C, but to be on your back against 595 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 4: Chumayev is a nightmare for anyone in that division. 596 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 2: And yeah, and that's the thing. 597 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 4: It's like, whether he decides to stay on the feet 598 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 4: or decides to grapple. 599 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: You, he's exciting to watch. He's non stop trying to 600 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 2: destroy you. 601 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 4: And I don't know a whole lot of people that 602 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 4: can crush someone's teeth or jaw with the rear naked choke. 603 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 4: It's like, oh, well, he's trying to choke you. Just 604 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 4: protect your chin, you know, protect your neck, just like 605 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 4: drop your chin. Okay, do that against Jumayav. 606 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 2: You're gonna get your you know, teeth literally caved in. 607 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 4: That was a nasty, nasty injury, and it shows that 608 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 4: the strength and explosiveness of Jemiah. 609 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 5: I know there were some videos out there about this 610 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 5: Whittaker mouth injury and maybe some of the things that 611 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 5: he might have been dealing with, and I think maybe 612 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 5: there were some things that were speculative in nature. But 613 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 5: I did think it was encouraging right after the fact Kenny, 614 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 5: after the fight that he was seen like accepting defeat 615 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 5: and clapping in octagon for Comzat, So I was thinking 616 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 5: maybe he wasn't like writhing in pain necessarily at that 617 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 5: particular time, because I just would have hated for that 618 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 5: to have been the case. And then perhaps some encouragement 619 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 5: to see him do an interview with Red Corner Mma 620 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 5: seemingly in the hotel lobby, and he said, I'm all right. 621 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 5: It wasn't the jaw, it was the teeth. The teeth 622 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,479 Speaker 5: got pushed in. I've always had loose teeth, and they 623 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 5: got looser. It was the face crank. His forearm went 624 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 5: straight on the bottom tooth. I didn't have a moment 625 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 5: to turn the head or anything. If I didn't have 626 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 5: such vulnerable teeth, maybe I would have had another second 627 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 5: of term my head or maybe not had just got 628 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 5: caught in a bad position. 629 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 2: Of the rest is history on my bottom teeth. 630 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 4: They're vulnerable. 631 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 2: It's my achilles heal. 632 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 5: I've had them pushed him before when I fought Drinkas 633 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 5: and they've never really recovered. 634 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: It's from an injury when I was young. 635 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 5: So encouraging to see him talk through that and not 636 00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 5: be going back to Australia with jaw wired shut. But 637 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 5: just a tremendous win for Kamza chimayav. And It's interesting, 638 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 5: right because when you think about Hamzad at eighty five 639 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 5: or seventy or even two hundred and five pounds, there 640 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 5: are just a lot of favorable matchups. But Dracus du 641 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 5: plus Kenny is one guy that is excited about this, right, 642 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 5: You can be sure is excited about the possibility of 643 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 5: beating a guy like this. I would imagine you thought 644 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 5: I might ask you to handicap that fight a little 645 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 5: bit today. 646 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 2: No, yeah, oh yeah, I want me to do it. Well, yeah, 647 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 2: I mean we're gonna get to the poll results. 648 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 5: And I don't know if this is a vocal minority 649 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 5: or what, but the overwhelming majority of the people that 650 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 5: we pulled when probe to give an early handicap on 651 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 5: a possible middleweight title defense for Drinkis Duples against Kamza 652 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 5: Chimaya overwhelmingly north of seventy percent like Hamza Chimaya. Now, 653 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 5: he may very well be the betting favorite, but uh 654 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 5: Drikus du pless is a half man, half amazing, so 655 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 5: let's not put it past him. Kenny, what do you 656 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 5: have for us on that potential Middleway championship fight first 657 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 5: or second quarter twenty twenty five for sure? 658 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 4: And duplus C has this ability to pull the rabbit 659 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 4: out of the hat from so many different situations. He's 660 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 4: got knockout power, he's got a good takedown game, he's 661 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 4: got a good ground game, his conditioning is on point 662 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 4: all the time. He's extremely big and strong for the division. 663 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 4: He has a lot of things going for him. But 664 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 4: you know, I think he does his best work in 665 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 4: the clinch and with his grappling, and that's where Chimaya 666 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 4: tends to thrive. So now I think that if he 667 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 4: was able to survive the first fifteen minutes against someone 668 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 4: like Chimaya, then I would, you know, start betting heavily 669 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 4: on Drickis duplus C. But to survive fifteen minutes against 670 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 4: that kind of style and Chimayav would be very difficult 671 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 4: for Drickis. But man, I mean, the guy's been perfect, 672 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 4: you know from what we've seen in the UFC, and uh, 673 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 4: he's definitely a problem. 674 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 2: But Chimayav would be the favorite for me. 675 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 5: So I just want to say this about Sean Strickland 676 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 5: if I could, right, If any podcast has been pushing 677 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 5: for Sean Strickland to get championship opportunities, it has been 678 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 5: this one, right and thrice. I think he stepped up 679 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 5: for the UFC in spots where elite middleweights would not have, 680 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 5: whether we talk about fighting Alex Paeda when he was 681 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 5: number four in the world, or short notice main events 682 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 5: even against a guy like a boost Maga Metov and 683 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 5: then the five round or recently against Paolo Costa. Never 684 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 5: mind the brilliance he showed I think in dominating that fight, 685 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,719 Speaker 5: even if you don't like that adjective brilliance, right like 686 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 5: he he really dominated Paolo Costa in my mind, So 687 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 5: he's worthy. But the fight game is ever evolving and 688 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 5: ever changing. And when Hamza Chimayav Kenny goes out and 689 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 5: does that to Robert Whitaker, you know, it just it's 690 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 5: a tough result for Sean Strickland in terms of middleweight 691 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 5: title contention, is it not? 692 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely. 693 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 4: I mean again, I think these are also guys that 694 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 4: know each other very well. Of course, Chimaya and Strickland 695 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 4: have trained with each other before, and you know, so 696 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 4: they know each other, they know, they know what skills 697 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 4: they bring to the table, and and you know, for Strickland, uh, 698 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 4: you know, I think he deserves it at this stage 699 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 4: of the game. But any injury, obviously Chimaia is gonna 700 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 4: gonna hop in there in some way, shape or form. 701 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 2: But I think potentially, potentially, if kamzat Chimai. 702 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 5: Is gonna fight for the world title, do you think next, Well, 703 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 5: I didn't see Dana White's postfight press conference, so perhaps 704 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 5: there's information on that. Well No, I mean well, I 705 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 5: mean if hamzat Chimai, are you gonna, I don't know 706 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 5: what you do. 707 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,439 Speaker 2: Do you want to sit him? 708 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 5: If he is willing to get or healthy enough to 709 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 5: get an active competition cycle right now? 710 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I don't know about the. 711 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 5: Internal inner workings or metrics when it comes to pay 712 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 5: per view dollars, but I mean, promotionally, it sounds systematically 713 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 5: insane to featurekamzat CHIMAIV in a non title fight. So yeah, 714 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 5: I mean you do Strickland du plus ee, I guess 715 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 5: in Sydney in February, and you know I wouldn't have 716 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 5: hamzat way in as a backup necessarily, but then maybe 717 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 5: you try to have him fight for the title during 718 00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 5: International fight Week. 719 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 2: But I mean, my gosh, if Hamza's. 720 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 5: Fight next fight is not for the championship, then oh 721 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 5: then I need to go call football games or something. 722 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 2: Right for sure, let's do what go ahead? Kemp flow? No, 723 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 2: I go ahead. 724 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 4: I was gonna say it should be absolutely, but you know, 725 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 4: like a lot of people were complaining that Strickland didn't 726 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 4: get the last shot, you know, when is he hopped 727 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 4: in there? You know, just based on the close fight 728 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 4: with Drick and all that stuff. So I think Strickland 729 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 4: should be next. Obviously it looks like that's that's probably 730 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 4: gonna happen, but I don't know, you know, we'll see 731 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 4: and and Chimaya should should certainly get the winner. 732 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 2: I don't think there's a bigger or better fight out there. 733 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 3: All right. 734 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 5: Dana White was noncommittal at the press conference, but due 735 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 5: plus C, I guess responded to some sort of ben 736 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 5: Askron post this is the fight When ben Askron wrote 737 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 5: Chimaya versus d dp A s A P Yeah, du 738 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 5: plus he wrote this is the fight. 739 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 4: Wow. 740 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, So dude, like when Ben Askron right, is he 741 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 5: really gonna make me trot that sound out twice in 742 00:35:58,960 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 5: one show? 743 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 2: Kenny? 744 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 5: So, there was some time in UFC history where I 745 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 5: was asked for my dream fight several years ago, and 746 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 5: I said, Kamza Chimaya versus Colby Covington. Now, I understand 747 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 5: there's a uniqueness to Colby Covington and drac Is Duplessy 748 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 5: in terms of what they bring to the table. Duplessy 749 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 5: more unique than Colby. But Colby just all offense all 750 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 5: the time. I wanted to see that Againstkamzat Chimaya. 751 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 2: But Kenny Am, I like, what's your ever? 752 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 5: A lot of people were saying Iliots Opoitia versus Max 753 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,919 Speaker 5: Holloway is their dream fight. So my number one fight 754 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 5: right now, my number one fight that I am most 755 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 5: desirous of as a mixed martial arts fan is Drake 756 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 5: is dupless Versuskamzat Chimayev. 757 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 2: What do you have for me on. 758 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 4: That, gosh, I mean that that's a tremendous fight. That's 759 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 4: a tremendous fight. Is be a huge fight, and and 760 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 4: for Drinks, who's the champ. It's like you want to 761 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 4: get these money fights. These fights do not happen very often, 762 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 4: and you want to maximize your opportunities here. And I 763 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,399 Speaker 4: think that's exactly why DDP responded with. 764 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 5: That, if you could put any fight together, Kenny, and 765 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 5: I'll stall for you here in the UFC in any division, 766 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 5: go ahead, I mean, give me a fight right now 767 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 5: that you're most looking forward to. I understand that Strickland 768 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 5: is deserving, and I understand that other people could come 769 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 5: up with any number of different things involving Poeton or 770 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 5: really at to Apuria or anything else. But for me, 771 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 5: my gosh, I mean, you put that dupless style in 772 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 5: there against Haamzat Chimayev at one hundred and eighty five pounds, 773 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,919 Speaker 5: and I think I need to take the night off 774 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,439 Speaker 5: to just watch that fight as a fan. 775 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 4: Congratula. I love that fight. 776 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 2: To Kamzat Chimayev. 777 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 5: We'll have plenty more on him coming up with Ray 778 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 5: Longo and Paul Felder over the course of the next 779 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,760 Speaker 5: hour or so. Magamet Ankliev man he is a special fighter. 780 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 5: And when we talk about these guys being ready for 781 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,240 Speaker 5: primetime in the bright lights and calm, cool and collected, 782 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 5: magamet Anklia of DC talked about his vision. I think 783 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 5: that's probably the most impressive for me as I look 784 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 5: back on this fight offensively, defensively. I know the Alexander 785 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 5: Rocktch corner came in very prepared, coached well in fight, 786 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,879 Speaker 5: maybe with the exception of telling their guy that they 787 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 5: thought he was up to nil. 788 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 2: But I thought Uncle I have handled a really prepared, really. 789 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 5: Good Alexander Rockitch improved yet again that he's the number 790 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 5: one contender, if not the best fighter in the division. 791 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 2: I think that was a really dangerous fight for Unclelive. 792 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 4: I think Rockitch again came out with a nice hot 793 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 4: start there, looked really good, high energy, but then kind 794 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 4: of slowly started to lose confidence, and a lot of 795 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 4: that had to do with Uncle Ive's ability to back 796 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 4: him up and land left and right hands, and you know, 797 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 4: kind of kept Rockitch on the back foot a little bit. 798 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 4: And Rockets is huge for the division. He's dangerous, but 799 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 4: Uncle Ia was a little bit smarter, had more skills overall, 800 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 4: and I think his pressure, his pacing, and his experience 801 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 4: was the difference. And I think he put himself in 802 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 4: a nice position to potentially face Poeton for his next one, 803 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 4: but did exactly what he needed to do. 804 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 5: In my opinion, Man, you know, thrill on one side, 805 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 5: agony on the other end. I do feel badly for 806 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 5: Alexander Rockich if I could just take a second to 807 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 5: talk about just a man's commitment to the cause, and 808 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 5: certainly when you can become a world champion, the financial 809 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 5: freedom oftentimes follows, and so you can understand why Alexander Rockitch, 810 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 5: given the magnitude of this fight, the ability to take 811 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 5: magamat Anclive's number one ranking, went away from his children 812 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 5: for eleven weeks or so. And he doesn't even get 813 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 5: a haircut Kenny when he's in training camp, right, like 814 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,919 Speaker 5: eating everything at home. I mean, he doesn't shave his beer, right. 815 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 5: It's just a bunch of savages under one roof, committed 816 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 5: in totality to the cause and just came up a 817 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 5: little bit short. And I do feel really badly for Rockich. 818 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 5: I'm glad he got through the fight healthily, which has 819 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 5: not always been the case. You know, was realizing success 820 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 5: in a main event against they Ambohovich before his knee. 821 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 2: Gave out a couple of years ago. 822 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 5: But a good guy and root for all these guys, 823 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 5: you know, Anklaiev is an affable guy and overdue, right 824 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 5: Like I led our fighter meeting with him Kenflow, and 825 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 5: I was like, why are you not fighting for the 826 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 5: world title? And he's like, well, you gotta ask somebody 827 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 5: else that question. But as we do, spend it fourth Fronklive. 828 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 5: He came into this fight, Kenny, I think with thirty 829 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 5: one percent takedown accuracy, so that's not really necessarily his game. 830 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 2: He's a hell of a striker. 831 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 5: What are your thoughts on an calve against Alex Poeton 832 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 5: Padaya potentially is the next light heavyweight championship fight. 833 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think he's a really good striker man, 834 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 4: and I think that I expected him to grapple a 835 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 4: lot more against rockets. 836 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 2: Than he did. He didn't need to. 837 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 4: It seemed like he was totally comfortable on the feet, 838 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 4: and again you to talk about solid fundamentals, just a 839 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 4: good stance overall, was defensively responsible throughout, was pressuring at 840 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 4: the right time, was fainting really well, and he doesn't 841 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 4: make a whole lot of mistakes out there. For a 842 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 4: lot of people, they might be a little bit bored 843 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 4: by that. You know, a lot of people were complaining 844 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 4: about the performance that he know, not the most exciting guy. Well, 845 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 4: if you're gonna face Poton, will guess what, you better 846 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 4: be pretty mistake free. So I think stylistically he has 847 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 4: a style that could post some problems for Poton, no 848 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 4: question about that. You know, not only because of his 849 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 4: takedown game, but because of the striking. 850 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 2: He's really solid when it comes there. He doesn't give 851 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 2: you a whole lot lot. 852 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 4: Of opportunities to take his chin off, and because of that, 853 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,240 Speaker 4: I think will be a really exciting fight and intriguing 854 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 4: fight against Poton. 855 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 5: All right, quickly, I want to get to Laron Murphy, 856 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 5: and when Ray Longo and Paul Felder join us, we 857 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,720 Speaker 5: obviously will have more on the top of this fight card. 858 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 5: But my goodness, man, this Laron Murphy is impressive. Just 859 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 5: the way he handled that flash knockdown I think just 860 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 5: speaks to overall maybe how good he can be as 861 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 5: a championship level fighter. And he's had to deal with 862 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,359 Speaker 5: a lot of different injuries even pre UFC, and then 863 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 5: there was a terrible accident that he incurred in career, 864 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 5: and I just have a lot of respect for the 865 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 5: approach the camp Manchester top team and the ability to 866 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,399 Speaker 5: withstand adversity and dig deep in sort of a war 867 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 5: like this against dany Ega. I know, Dan Ego, Dan 868 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 5: Egay seemingly gassed in the fight, but you know, I 869 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 5: think this was a real career building win for a 870 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 5: very talented guy in Laron Murphy. 871 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 2: No question about it. 872 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 4: I think he showed a lot of intelligence in how 873 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 4: he was executing his game plan, and he showed obviously 874 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 4: a lot of toughness coming back from adversity, getting dropped 875 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 4: early in that fight and having to gather himself and 876 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 4: show some really good grappling and other skills that we 877 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 4: didn't necessarily know that he had. And you know, it 878 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 4: was clear he was a great athlete and that he 879 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 4: had skills in a lot of different areas. But to 880 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 4: do that against Egay, who really was coming in you 881 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 4: know hot, it seemed like coming in hot. It was 882 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 4: a great performance man against a really tough guy in Egay, 883 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,320 Speaker 4: who's who has a ton of experience, and to me, 884 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,319 Speaker 4: it showed that Murphy is is definitely ready for the 885 00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:59,320 Speaker 4: elite in that division. 886 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 5: All right, it's be gonna comeing in hot and ready 887 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 5: for the elite. Always perhaps the mop on top notwith standing. 888 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,320 Speaker 2: Let's get to the Ray longomen Is. 889 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 1: Now times for a Ray Longo minute. 890 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,359 Speaker 3: I want you to push a hole in this fucking chest. 891 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 6: That's what I want The Ray Longo Minute. 892 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,399 Speaker 2: The John Nnik and Kenny Florian Podcast. 893 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 5: Imagine being an MMA coach and saying to an elite athlete, 894 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 5: I want you to punch a hole in this fucking chest. 895 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 2: That's what I want you to do. 896 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 5: I mean, there's so many things that speak to your legend, 897 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 5: but perhaps maybe no quote more so than that looking 898 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:41,399 Speaker 5: groomed man bringing up the handsome level in the whole room, 899 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 5: the great Raymond Peter Longo Hall of Fame level coach. 900 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 2: Good to see a buddy. 901 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 6: How are you doing good? I mean, guys, come on, 902 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 6: we'll live in the dream. 903 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,919 Speaker 2: No, what do you mean? 904 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 6: I mean, Kenny, guys are out there working every day. 905 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 6: They're stuck in traffic. They they're angry, they're mad, they 906 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 6: hate their jobs. Would look at us, what do we 907 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 6: do to. 908 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:01,839 Speaker 4: Do this well? 909 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 5: A parent is only as happy as they're sad as child. 910 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 5: So if you really want to have a conversation about 911 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 5: relative happiness, you know. 912 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 6: Are you to say it as child in this group? 913 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 4: No? 914 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,439 Speaker 2: Hy No, okay, No, I'm not checked. 915 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,919 Speaker 6: Yes, I mean I would jump right in and help 916 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 6: you by good. 917 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 7: Well. 918 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 5: I think my energy today on the program is reflective 919 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 5: in some part of me living my dream professionally. But 920 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 5: I was on a metal tube yesterday for seventeen hours, 921 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,359 Speaker 5: you know, and there's not a ton of glamour in that. 922 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:35,280 Speaker 5: Felda and I were absolutely dying in the airport at Doha, Qatar, 923 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 5: trying to stay awake uh for our second flight, you know, 924 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 5: And somehow, you know, the coffee was able to block 925 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 5: those receptors in our brain telling us were retired, and 926 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:46,879 Speaker 5: we were able to get to the gate on time. 927 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 4: How are we doing, raymon, your hairless grap thank you. 928 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,479 Speaker 6: But you're still living a dream. Because there was those 929 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 6: pushmos sitting side by side by. You and Felder were 930 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 6: in first class, no cigartte No. 931 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 5: Gave up my eat to somebody and I sat and 932 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 5: coached this time anyway anyway, No, I. 933 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:05,800 Speaker 2: Did not do that. 934 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 5: Hey, right, you see the shirt one more sleep, Madison 935 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 5: Square Garden a dish oh ship. 936 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's Patrick. 937 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 5: Ewing on there what, but a lot of amazing imagery 938 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,280 Speaker 5: on this design. So hopefully we can get a double 939 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 5: XL on you though you look like you're down to 940 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:21,879 Speaker 5: an XL right now. 941 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,439 Speaker 6: Maybe it's just ship. Can you see my look at that? 942 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 7: Yeah? 943 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 6: I just Kenny. I just don't know what else I 944 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 6: could do. I don't we got it? 945 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 2: All the girls love us? When all right? Can I 946 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 2: lead with you on and then get to ilio? Can 947 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 2: we do that? 948 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 6: Is that? Okay? Sure? I think we could. Probably for me, 949 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 6: I could lump them both together, but well sound off, 950 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,840 Speaker 6: I mean, listen, man. For me, it's it was a change. 951 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 6: It really was a changing of the god, like for real, 952 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 6: Like it's not these weren't just who wins like to Pouria. 953 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 6: For him to really like, no, I'm not saying impress me, 954 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 6: but for him to really impress everybody. I mean, a 955 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 6: knockout of Max Holloway, which has never been done before, 956 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 6: was the only way to go. If that fight would 957 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 6: have went to a decision, I think it would have 958 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 6: been great. But the way he finished that fight was unbelievable. 959 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 6: And the same thing with Homsad. I thought, if Whitaker 960 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,879 Speaker 6: could drag that fight into the fourth round, he could 961 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 6: get a finish. But you got to get out of 962 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 6: the first round with a fucking beast. And they both 963 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 6: came and they both showed that, you know. Illiad definitely 964 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,839 Speaker 6: showed why he's the champion, and Homsat, I thought it 965 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 6: was a great performance against a really tough, experienced guy 966 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 6: who's been in there with everybody. So uh, you know, 967 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,319 Speaker 6: and when you look at like, you know, Whittaker fight 968 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 6: and wrote like Romero, who was an Olympic wrestler, he 969 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 6: couldn't do that to him, you know what I mean. 970 00:46:56,239 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 6: So this was a big, big win form. I think 971 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,879 Speaker 6: that's the name he needed and he's the man now. 972 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,360 Speaker 6: So I'm totally impressed with both guys. 973 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,360 Speaker 2: What impressed you the most about Eliott Tolpotia. 974 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:13,800 Speaker 5: I mean, you could take a sip of your coffee, 975 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 5: of course, but then we would like to know, of 976 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,840 Speaker 5: all the things champions with metal skill, what impressed you 977 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:19,720 Speaker 5: the most? 978 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 6: Well, look, first off, what impressed me the most is 979 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 6: that he could have been down two rounds like he 980 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 6: just never he not that it was total adversity. But 981 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 6: I don't think things were going his way. I think 982 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 6: Max was looking really good and this guy's still just 983 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:39,399 Speaker 6: steady Eddy, persistence and gets the job done. I mean, 984 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 6: look for a twenty seven year old kid, I mean, 985 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 6: this guy's not going anywhere in the near future. I 986 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 6: mean he's always I mean, listen, good Hollywood, good looks, 987 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 6: great looking wife, great looking family. Seems like he stands 988 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 6: for all the right reasons. Yeah, I've never seen like 989 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 6: basic and fundamentals expressed at the highest level like this 990 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 6: guy does. There's no tricky that's relative. But you know, 991 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,760 Speaker 6: he's not dancing all over the place. He's straight forward, 992 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 6: always punches in balance, always has his eye on the prize. 993 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 6: And again, this was a fight when Max looked like 994 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,360 Speaker 6: the Max that you know, it was a great fight. 995 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 6: I mean he gave him a really good fight, and 996 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 6: Lily had just steady Eddy and just found a way 997 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,439 Speaker 6: to win. But again, always punching in balance, always knows 998 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,400 Speaker 6: how to just control that distance perfectly where he backs 999 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 6: out a little bit, but then he's suffocating you again, 1000 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 6: and he seems to get what he wants. I didn't 1001 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 6: think he was going to be able to knock out 1002 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 6: Max Holloway. So I think this is a huge victory 1003 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 6: for him, and again, a guy twenty seven years old. 1004 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 6: I mean, I mean even another five years to him, 1005 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,360 Speaker 6: he's only going to be thirty two. This is incredible. 1006 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 6: And he he was really really solid, man, I mean 1007 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 6: that was I thought that that was a great performance. 1008 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 6: And to get Max Holloway out like that, like again, 1009 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:06,839 Speaker 6: I mean, the thing that was going through my head 1010 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,840 Speaker 6: was just the expression of the fundamentals and the basics 1011 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 6: done at such a high level. Yeah, makes him a 1012 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 6: really really tough out. Man. This kid really is good 1013 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,879 Speaker 6: and he backs up all the stories you hear about 1014 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 6: him is sparring and what he's doing. He just he's 1015 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 6: the whole package, from his tailored suits to everything. I mean, 1016 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 6: he just he this kid's got the X factor. 1017 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, Ray, you know, just for a lot of the 1018 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 4: reasons that you mentioned there, I think he's the best 1019 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 4: fighter in the game pound for pound right now. But 1020 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,400 Speaker 4: as far as striking, I also think he might be 1021 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,360 Speaker 4: the best striker in the game right now. There's just 1022 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 4: so many different facets to what he does. He's a 1023 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,800 Speaker 4: very layered striker. Do you see it that way? Is 1024 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,399 Speaker 4: he the best striker in the game? You think right now? 1025 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 6: I think he's the best striker in the game one 1026 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,360 Speaker 6: hundred percent. And I think he could cross over to 1027 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 6: a boxing match better than anybody could cross over, you 1028 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,720 Speaker 6: know what I mean, Like that's his boxing is really 1029 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:12,839 Speaker 6: on point, and uh yeah, I don't know, one hundred percent. 1030 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 6: I think he's the best striker in the game just 1031 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 6: based on that. Listen, he's knocking people out. I mean, look, 1032 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,720 Speaker 6: you have Alix too. I mean, I don't know if he's. 1033 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:20,360 Speaker 4: The I like. 1034 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 6: I really like uh Pereira's style too, so uh, I mean, 1035 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 6: I think he needs a couple of more fights. But 1036 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 6: he starts in some high level guys. Man, that's not 1037 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 6: easy to do. Nobody's done done that before. And uh yeah, 1038 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 6: I don't know, Man, this kid's on his way. I 1039 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 6: don't think he's going I'll tell you one thing, don't 1040 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 6: who's going to challenge him in the uh you know, 1041 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:44,719 Speaker 6: in the next year. 1042 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 2: Well, I have some answers on that. 1043 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 5: I mean, I I asked Kenny earlier, who do you 1044 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 5: think is a tougher fight y for for Iliotopodia A 1045 00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 5: Volkanovsky rematch with Vulcan healthy and rested in brain and 1046 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:07,239 Speaker 5: in body and in theory. Or Diego Lopez with all 1047 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,719 Speaker 5: of his skills submission and otherwise and his big frame. Like, 1048 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 5: what do you think right now for a twenty seven 1049 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,520 Speaker 5: year old defending champion Eliot Topotia is the harder fight 1050 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 5: the Vulcan rematch or the Diego Lopez fight. 1051 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,879 Speaker 2: I mean, that's a good fucking question, morning. I mean, 1052 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 2: we're not ready for that one. What do you have 1053 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 2: for us? 1054 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,879 Speaker 6: Look, I love all three guys. I have the utmost respectful. 1055 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 6: I gotta tell you, man, I think I think a 1056 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,399 Speaker 6: healthy Volkanowski is the hard to fight. Yeah, we can't 1057 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,800 Speaker 6: get back to the Volkanowski that we know if he 1058 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 6: if he's anywhere near that, that's the hard to fight. 1059 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 6: I think Lopez, I think is a tough, tough motherfucker, 1060 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:53,880 Speaker 6: but he's got his chin a little too high up 1061 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 6: in here. I think this guy finds that and again, 1062 00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 6: what we you know? I mean the other thing is, 1063 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,720 Speaker 6: I mean he really hasn't had to demonstrate his wrestling 1064 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 6: in jiu jitsu, which I think is just as good 1065 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,840 Speaker 6: as his boxing, I would think at this point, I 1066 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,560 Speaker 6: mean he did. Look, I love what he did he 1067 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 6: went in there, he took him down, He let him 1068 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,239 Speaker 6: know he could take him down, and I think that 1069 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 6: was to set up what was coming, just to get 1070 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,440 Speaker 6: his hands going so he could just keep him a 1071 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 6: little guessing like you could get taken down again. Not 1072 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,239 Speaker 6: that he wanted to expend a lot of energy while 1073 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 6: he was down there. Yeah, but he did take him 1074 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:31,719 Speaker 6: down pretty freaking easy. And Ryan Hall, who Kenny, you know, 1075 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 6: is an absolute savage on the ground. He did go 1076 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 6: in there and kind of played into his game a 1077 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,799 Speaker 6: little bit and gave it. But he got that job 1078 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,400 Speaker 6: done too. So this guy's passing all kinds of tests 1079 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 6: at this point. I don't even think we should even 1080 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 6: be questioning it. But I think a vote that we 1081 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 6: know is the heart to fight for sure. Yeah, go ahead. 1082 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,759 Speaker 2: You know who is in Ryan Hall's corner that night? 1083 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:00,920 Speaker 2: There he was in his corner. 1084 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. 1085 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, Kenny, that must have been like a little bit 1086 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 6: of a shock because we didn't really know who Tuporia 1087 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:10,160 Speaker 6: was right at that point. 1088 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:10,720 Speaker 4: Kenny. 1089 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,719 Speaker 5: I don't remember Kenny a text though before the fight. 1090 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 5: I mean just about the special nature. Sorry, Kenny, go yeah. 1091 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,399 Speaker 4: Yes, no, no, no, listen, I think that I don't 1092 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 4: think I was fully aware of just how damn good 1093 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 4: this kid is. And he's a very sophisticated operator. 1094 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 5: Man. 1095 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 4: He he even the things that he hides before a fight, 1096 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,799 Speaker 4: and he'll like, you know, it's easy to kind of 1097 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 4: get thrown off with that guy. And I think that 1098 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,279 Speaker 4: he's way smarter than people give him credit for him. 1099 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 2: And he's a problem, man. 1100 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:45,480 Speaker 6: Though, he's a problem. 1101 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,680 Speaker 4: This is the new breed of fighter that we're going 1102 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 4: to start to see. But I still think he's probably 1103 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,480 Speaker 4: five ten years ahead of a lot of people went that. 1104 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:59,000 Speaker 6: There's no question Kenny, and I don't know. I mean, look, yeah, 1105 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,400 Speaker 6: I mean, look for seven year old John he handles himself. 1106 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:04,920 Speaker 2: Yeah really, oh my gosh. 1107 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 5: I mean him and his girls, like, I mean, they 1108 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 5: might as well be movie stars John F. Kennedy and 1109 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 5: Marilyn Monroe walking into the octagon, you know. 1110 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 2: And whomever is his tailor. 1111 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,359 Speaker 5: That is my folder of business to try to get 1112 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 5: that dude to cut me some suits, because. 1113 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,640 Speaker 6: I mean, that's what I'm saying. This guy's got the 1114 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 6: whole package. But that's John F. Kennedy and Jackie on 1115 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,920 Speaker 6: NASA's let's not is an Is there any broke cod in. 1116 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:32,960 Speaker 3: Right. 1117 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,800 Speaker 5: Sorry, I that's what I get for going back a 1118 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,760 Speaker 5: little bit before my time. I didn't even You're absolutely 1119 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,640 Speaker 5: right forgettable reference by. 1120 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 2: Let's listen, are you a cat guy or just a 1121 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:50,920 Speaker 2: dog guy? By the way, how's Lucky? 1122 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,760 Speaker 5: We haven't heard from Lucky god Willing in several episodes. 1123 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, she's licking my ankles right. 1124 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 3: Now, of course she is. 1125 00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,920 Speaker 5: Your computer's making a bunch of fucking noise, though, even 1126 00:54:58,960 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 5: the Lucky's not. 1127 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 2: So that's that's fine. 1128 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 5: Heaven forbid you close a goddamn window before we talk 1129 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:05,880 Speaker 5: about the pain from Spain. 1130 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 2: Ilio Topolitia. Hey, right, you like cats or no? 1131 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:10,040 Speaker 6: I like cats? Yeah? 1132 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,719 Speaker 5: All right, So to save a cat's life, right, you 1133 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 5: got to send one featherweight right now, other than al 1134 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 5: Jamain Sterling into the octagon and Kenny, if you want 1135 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,279 Speaker 5: to answer al Joe, fine, right, but if you had 1136 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 5: to send one featherweight in there to beat Ilo Topolia 1137 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 5: right now? To save a cat's life, right, are you 1138 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,920 Speaker 5: sending Alexander Volkanowski in there? Or are you sending somebody 1139 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:35,319 Speaker 5: else in there? Because stylistically, in January of twenty twenty two, 1140 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,920 Speaker 5: Ilio to Portia was scheduled to face mavsar Iyevloyev and 1141 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,280 Speaker 5: that fight didn't happen, And that is a unique type 1142 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 5: of Inoctagon challenge. I think just the wrestler that comes 1143 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,240 Speaker 5: at you twenty four to seven, three sixty five. 1144 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 6: I think he passes that test easy. That val Joe's 1145 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 6: one hundred percent going to beat that guy in December. 1146 00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,279 Speaker 6: I'll tell you that right now. I think stylistically, I 1147 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,520 Speaker 6: like that for al Jo. Yeah, so we'd have to 1148 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:07,320 Speaker 6: wait on that. I'm not putting any too much credit 1149 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:08,680 Speaker 6: on him yet. 1150 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:12,439 Speaker 5: But Kenny, a lot of people might send Aljo in there, 1151 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,360 Speaker 5: you know, to save a cat's life. 1152 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 4: Right well, I think it's got to be a specialist 1153 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,839 Speaker 4: in my opinion. Someone asked me that on Twitter, and 1154 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,880 Speaker 4: in my mind, I think it would need to be 1155 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,239 Speaker 4: some kind of a grappling specialist. 1156 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 2: If there's some holes that I see that might be not. 1157 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 4: Necessarily gaping, but vulnerable spots into Poria's game because he 1158 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 4: does have a couple. 1159 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 2: It would be with his grappling. 1160 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,839 Speaker 4: And you get a specialist like al Jamaine Sterling who 1161 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 4: can not only do stuff on the ground, but can 1162 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:45,080 Speaker 4: actually put him there. Yeah, things get things can get 1163 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:46,280 Speaker 4: really interesting very quickly. 1164 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:55,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, Ray, the al Joe Toputia fight is really interesting. Yeah, 1165 00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 5: well no, I mean Aljae. I just feel like you 1166 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,160 Speaker 5: talk about al Jo being like fifty eight fifty nine 1167 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,320 Speaker 5: on fight night, if not one hundred and sixty three pounds. 1168 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,920 Speaker 2: Man, I mean the human backpack, you know. 1169 00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,880 Speaker 5: I mean Iliot's to Portia obviously an undefeated fighter, a 1170 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,359 Speaker 5: Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt dating to like nine years 1171 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:14,560 Speaker 5: old or something, but like. 1172 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Algiel will be bigger than in that. 1173 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1174 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 6: That's a listen, that's a that's a tough fight. I 1175 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,360 Speaker 6: just you know what, you know where my brain goes 1176 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,680 Speaker 6: to right away, because I mean Aljie could obviously hang 1177 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:32,440 Speaker 6: with anybody. Yeah, I mean, I mean anybody, but that 1178 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 6: just puts Morob in such a shitty position. I don't 1179 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,480 Speaker 6: even want to think about that right now. 1180 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 5: You know, my geniality very long ago. 1181 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, my brain's always my brain's always going in that direction. 1182 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,480 Speaker 6: Can I just you know, I love everybody and all, 1183 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,320 Speaker 6: like again to Pouria, great guy, great family, or anytime 1184 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:56,600 Speaker 6: you see him, they're just respectful and just like again 1185 00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 6: the complete package, and you know, obviously Morob everybody loves 1186 00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 6: it this point. But yeah, so whatever, we'll cross that 1187 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,919 Speaker 6: bridge when we get to But Al Joe is tough 1188 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,560 Speaker 6: for anybody with his style. 1189 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 5: Man, you're gonna be so soft on this show in 1190 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 5: five years. 1191 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:12,240 Speaker 2: It's disgusting. 1192 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,360 Speaker 5: I mean, Morob Dwallish Willie might be my favorite human 1193 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,840 Speaker 5: being in the world. One in some part appreciate the take. 1194 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 5: But you know who knows though, I mean, your guy 1195 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,640 Speaker 5: might get fucked up by moth sorry Iavloyev in December, 1196 00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 5: and then we're not having a conversation. 1197 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:29,400 Speaker 6: You know, say, listen, who doesn't like that clip with 1198 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 6: Morob with the kid on stage? Were you hosting that? 1199 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:33,680 Speaker 2: No? 1200 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,320 Speaker 6: No, I mean, the guy's just he is a man 1201 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,480 Speaker 6: of the people. You gotta love this guy, he is. 1202 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:43,480 Speaker 5: I I didn't want to bother him at Power Slap. 1203 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,080 Speaker 5: We were there together in the same row, but I 1204 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,720 Speaker 5: went over just to congratulate him because I hadn't seen 1205 00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,120 Speaker 5: him since he won the world title. And let's just 1206 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 5: say I held that hug a lot longer than he did. 1207 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,520 Speaker 2: Like you know, the Disney princesses, right. 1208 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,440 Speaker 5: I don't know if we've had this conversation on the 1209 00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,280 Speaker 5: Ant Cantorian podcast before. But the Disney princesses are actually 1210 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:04,080 Speaker 5: instructed to not let go of the hug until the 1211 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,680 Speaker 5: child does, because you don't know how long that child 1212 00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,480 Speaker 5: maybe might need that hug for or where that child 1213 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 5: is in their life right And I was trying to 1214 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,160 Speaker 5: hug Morob forever, like I absolutely love that guy, and uh, 1215 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:17,400 Speaker 5: what's the. 1216 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 6: What's the analogy? You think needed the hug for some reason? 1217 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,960 Speaker 5: No, I needed it more than Marab, But like, all 1218 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:24,760 Speaker 5: I wanted to do was like hang out with the 1219 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,040 Speaker 5: guy and have a beer on a guy. 1220 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 2: But I didn't want to bug the chin. 1221 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,520 Speaker 4: Oh we under a fifteen second HUGO we put that 1222 00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:31,320 Speaker 4: in a question? 1223 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,880 Speaker 6: Oh shit, man, it was a long hug. 1224 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,880 Speaker 2: It was long. I held it. It was an embrace. 1225 00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,960 Speaker 5: I think I actually like put my hand on the 1226 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,000 Speaker 5: back of his head too. 1227 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:41,720 Speaker 2: I mean I was like super into it. 1228 00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:46,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, now it's getting awkward. Now we're hitting the 1229 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:47,240 Speaker 6: awkward stage. 1230 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,520 Speaker 2: So ray, I'm I'm a little under slept today. 1231 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,600 Speaker 5: I don't know if you were here for me suggesting 1232 00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,640 Speaker 5: that my dream fight right now in MMA is Treek 1233 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:59,520 Speaker 5: is due plus C versus Hamza Chimayev, but love it. 1234 00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,240 Speaker 5: I'm just I'm so excited at the potential of that fight. 1235 01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,080 Speaker 5: Do you have anything for us on that, either your 1236 01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,160 Speaker 5: relative excitement level for it or how you think it 1237 01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:07,760 Speaker 5: might go down? 1238 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:14,720 Speaker 6: Man, I uh, that's a great matchup because if like again, 1239 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 6: I just think we have to see homs out in 1240 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 6: the fourth and fifth rounds, right, but hopefully for him 1241 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,080 Speaker 6: it never gets there. But you know, at that first 1242 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 6: round is the pivotal round for everything, you know, because 1243 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,520 Speaker 6: Dricus seems to always have a lot of energy at 1244 01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:33,400 Speaker 6: the end and he's a grind stylistically, I think makes 1245 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,960 Speaker 6: for a really great match. I'd love to see that fight. 1246 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:37,080 Speaker 4: You know. 1247 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,520 Speaker 5: Cody mentioned in the chat, by the way, eliots Opodia's 1248 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,040 Speaker 5: brother ala Chandre or Alexander. I don't know how we 1249 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,080 Speaker 5: pronounce it yet, but gonna make his UFC debut in 1250 01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:45,240 Speaker 5: December January. 1251 01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:46,960 Speaker 2: Just everybody fucking way too. 1252 01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:47,240 Speaker 4: You know. 1253 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,120 Speaker 5: Wait, you know, I don't know how they'll proceed as 1254 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,160 Speaker 5: far as the matchmaking is concerned, but very interesting. 1255 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:55,640 Speaker 2: I would just completely go ahead, right. 1256 01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, Cody just put and I just caught this, but 1257 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,040 Speaker 6: Perere is thirty seven to poor he is twenty seven. 1258 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 6: I mean, just think of that. Yeah, yeah, I mean 1259 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,919 Speaker 6: he's this guy's got ten years if he wants, he'll 1260 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,560 Speaker 6: be around. Because it looks like he stays in shape. 1261 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:13,280 Speaker 6: He's disciplined obviously. Like again, I think that's the importance 1262 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,080 Speaker 6: of family. It keeps you kind of grounded, right, so 1263 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,080 Speaker 6: you can't be going out partying all the time and 1264 01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,160 Speaker 6: doing all that shit. He seems like a guy that 1265 01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,240 Speaker 6: squared away that's going to take care of his body 1266 01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,040 Speaker 6: and is just he's going to keep just getting better 1267 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 6: and better. 1268 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,440 Speaker 5: Paul Felder's going to join the conversation in five minutes 1269 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,320 Speaker 5: or so. But one thing that we were sort of 1270 01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:37,560 Speaker 5: talking about was the competitiveness of a fight between Hamza 1271 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,960 Speaker 5: Chimayev and Bo Nickel, And people talked about that eighteen 1272 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 5: months or so ago. And maybe after you see Kamzau 1273 01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,360 Speaker 5: do that to Robert Whitaker, you're looking for, you know, 1274 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,360 Speaker 5: Bo Nickel to get a little bit more seasoning on 1275 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 5: his Sunday steak. 1276 01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 6: Right. 1277 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,440 Speaker 5: So, but the electricity and the energy and the thought 1278 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,680 Speaker 5: that guys like bow Nickel and Haamza CHIMAIV are going 1279 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,000 Speaker 5: to go in there and impose their will upon someone 1280 01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,440 Speaker 5: in short order and get them out of their quickly. 1281 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,680 Speaker 5: I think it's part of the reason why when they 1282 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,400 Speaker 5: hit the inspection zone, I'm feeling some kind of thing 1283 01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 5: as a commentator for an MMA fan, right, yeah, Well, 1284 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:13,160 Speaker 5: it's just really unique, you know, and it makes it 1285 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,120 Speaker 5: almost harder to do the job because I'm so excited 1286 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:17,400 Speaker 5: as a fan, you know. 1287 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, those are the fights you want. Man. Well, you know, 1288 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,040 Speaker 6: you're on the edge of your couch and you just 1289 01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,880 Speaker 6: can't wait for the fight to get started. Every second 1290 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,880 Speaker 6: you kind of like shake in with excitement. That's what 1291 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,840 Speaker 6: makes me a great fight. I felt that this weekend. Man, 1292 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,880 Speaker 6: the last two fights, it was I really was curious 1293 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,560 Speaker 6: to see what was going to happen, and yeah, two 1294 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:37,840 Speaker 6: guys delivered one. 1295 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,640 Speaker 5: And then it's like Hamzaschimai have is this big favorite 1296 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,200 Speaker 5: against the credential Robert Whitaker, who is seemingly in the 1297 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:49,640 Speaker 5: best shape and place of his life and career. And 1298 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 5: then Hamzak goes out there and once again has a 1299 01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,800 Speaker 5: win in which he doesn't absorb a single punch. I 1300 01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,919 Speaker 5: don't even know if Whitaker threw and I just find 1301 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,160 Speaker 5: myself being like, well, what do you even saying, now, 1302 01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,280 Speaker 5: I find myself being so ill prepared almost when he 1303 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,640 Speaker 5: and I was happy with the call, but ill prepared 1304 01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:09,800 Speaker 5: in the moment right almost like I need to think 1305 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,000 Speaker 5: about it, knowing that Kenny it might happen so quickly. 1306 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,120 Speaker 5: I just I don't know, man, I don't know that 1307 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,000 Speaker 5: anybody is ever ready for it. 1308 01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:23,600 Speaker 2: As incredible as he is. The guy special, Man, the 1309 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:24,960 Speaker 2: guy is freaking special. 1310 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:29,160 Speaker 4: And I the UFC would probably be pretty happy with 1311 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,560 Speaker 4: both those guys Ti Pori and Chimaya as champs in 1312 01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:33,920 Speaker 4: their respected divisions. 1313 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm telling you that that was to me, Kenny 1314 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,720 Speaker 6: kind of was a passing of the you know, torture, 1315 01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,320 Speaker 6: changing of the guard whatever it is saying is but 1316 01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,040 Speaker 6: you know, because it was dominant, man, it was you know, 1317 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,200 Speaker 6: two guys that have been around for a long time, 1318 01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:53,640 Speaker 6: that have fought the best of the best getting really smoked. 1319 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,080 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, again, I think Halloway was fighting 1320 01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:00,320 Speaker 6: the best fight that he could have possibly been fighting. Yeah, 1321 01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,360 Speaker 6: it looked like he was getting in the zone. Uh 1322 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,280 Speaker 6: but wow, I mean that when this kid's got lead 1323 01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 6: in his hands, that's the difference. Like a lot of 1324 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,000 Speaker 6: people could say they're going to do things. This guy, 1325 01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,960 Speaker 6: he's lining you up from the second that bell rings, 1326 01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,720 Speaker 6: and he's got the he's got the power to get 1327 01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,800 Speaker 6: you the fuck out of there. That's a huge, huge 1328 01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:21,880 Speaker 6: tool to have in your toolbox. And that's the same 1329 01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:25,400 Speaker 6: thing that makes uh Pereira's specialist. That man. They could 1330 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,520 Speaker 6: they generate a different type of power than the average guy. 1331 01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:32,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, so, Ray, I want to ask you about Shara Bullet, 1332 01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:38,080 Speaker 5: Shara Boutin Magametov getting it done with the spinning backfists plural. 1333 01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,520 Speaker 6: I'm glad you brought that up. John. I'm gonna play 1334 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,080 Speaker 6: you something right now. Please if you could see. 1335 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:51,280 Speaker 5: This, Oh wow, if you are audio only, Ray Longo 1336 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,280 Speaker 5: just played a video, perhaps of one of his students, students, 1337 01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,080 Speaker 5: executing that very move, who's known for that. 1338 01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,720 Speaker 6: DC's like, I'd never seen that before. I guess they 1339 01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:05,240 Speaker 6: don't eats that at American Kickboxing Academy. She's got She's 1340 01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,520 Speaker 6: got about twenty of those. I said. As soon as 1341 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,640 Speaker 6: the fight, everybody was texting me that's Jenny's technique. A 1342 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,040 Speaker 6: shout out to Jenny and Nadell or some human being 1343 01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:16,760 Speaker 6: in Great Kickboxer, But that was one of her signature moves. Man, 1344 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,400 Speaker 6: how about that? So I said, Jenny, I call it. 1345 01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,720 Speaker 6: Just send me one clip just looking at like in 1346 01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,720 Speaker 6: ten seconds that then came back. So how cool is that? 1347 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:25,200 Speaker 6: You know? 1348 01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:25,400 Speaker 5: So? 1349 01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, so that's pretty cool. I did love it. Was 1350 01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:31,360 Speaker 6: your question going to be, did I ever see it before? No? 1351 01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:32,840 Speaker 6: I created it? 1352 01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:34,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that is incredible. 1353 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,080 Speaker 6: I think Wait, first off, that's old Jenny that has 1354 01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:37,440 Speaker 6: nothing to do. 1355 01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, well did she knock out her foe with it? 1356 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:41,760 Speaker 2: Or no? 1357 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,720 Speaker 6: No? That's like okay, technicol John all. 1358 01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:45,840 Speaker 5: Right, well no, I mean hey, I mean well no, 1359 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:47,960 Speaker 5: I mean it's like, you know, you're like you lead 1360 01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,400 Speaker 5: the league in respect and I'm not trying to be disrespectful. 1361 01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,479 Speaker 5: But charl Bullet and Magametov right, maybe didn't invent the move, 1362 01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,439 Speaker 5: but he just fucking knocked out one of his former 1363 01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,000 Speaker 5: training partners with it in an octagon with one eye. 1364 01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:01,080 Speaker 6: So yeah, that's because he had a two rounds glove one, 1365 01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:03,840 Speaker 6: not a twelve out. Oh hey, you go talking about 1366 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:05,240 Speaker 6: oh well you want to play that game? 1367 01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:07,760 Speaker 2: No, we don't. 1368 01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:08,200 Speaker 4: We don't. 1369 01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:09,880 Speaker 2: Hey, Ray, you got five more minutes. I want to 1370 01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:10,720 Speaker 2: go four wide. 1371 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,440 Speaker 5: I want to go four wide and welcome into the 1372 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:17,400 Speaker 5: conversation my dear friend and partner, former top six UFC 1373 01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:21,439 Speaker 5: lightweight contender perennially underappreciated. Oh just how good a fighter 1374 01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,800 Speaker 5: he was at fifty five the iron lung triathlete UFC 1375 01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,760 Speaker 5: commentator Paul Felder t great to see, PAULI how are 1376 01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:27,040 Speaker 5: we doing. 1377 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:28,320 Speaker 7: I'm doing great, man. 1378 01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,960 Speaker 1: I feel like we were just hanging out in Doha 1379 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,880 Speaker 1: lounge eating croissants and muffins together. 1380 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,240 Speaker 2: That's right, and here we are, so it's great to see. 1381 01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:39,840 Speaker 5: We have a lot to get into and we appreciate 1382 01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:41,680 Speaker 5: a quarter of an hour of your time live here 1383 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:42,400 Speaker 5: on a Monday. 1384 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,200 Speaker 2: How we feeling, dude, I'm kind of hurting. 1385 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:45,640 Speaker 5: I know you probably sweated a lot of it out 1386 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:46,840 Speaker 5: this morning, but I don't feel good. 1387 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:47,480 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1388 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:51,760 Speaker 7: I did not sleep well on that return, and it 1389 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:52,800 Speaker 7: was way longer than I thought. 1390 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,000 Speaker 1: I was like complaining about how long your flight was 1391 01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:56,480 Speaker 1: and I got on and they're like, it's fourteen and 1392 01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:57,040 Speaker 1: a half hours. 1393 01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:58,520 Speaker 7: I was like, oh, it's not that much better than 1394 01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:00,400 Speaker 7: what anxon. Yeah. 1395 01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:02,480 Speaker 1: I was definitely hurting yesterday, but I did make it 1396 01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:06,320 Speaker 1: back for Trunk Retreat Thrash Things school, so I didn't 1397 01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:07,720 Speaker 1: get the dress up, but I made it. Got to 1398 01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,800 Speaker 1: walk around with Ruby and ashling and eat some Halloween 1399 01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,680 Speaker 1: candy and yeah, feeling better today. I just got off 1400 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:17,160 Speaker 1: the bike, did ninety minutes with a wow with a 1401 01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:20,880 Speaker 1: group on Zwift on the indoor trainers, so we're we 1402 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,480 Speaker 1: were going a lot harder than I thought we were 1403 01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,600 Speaker 1: going to be going, but it's good. I definitely sweated 1404 01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:26,240 Speaker 1: it out and do a little pad later. 1405 01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,960 Speaker 5: So yeah, you know about PAULI that ninety minutes light work. 1406 01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:31,920 Speaker 5: That's fucking light work, you know. Poll So Ray was 1407 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,200 Speaker 5: just talking about the double spinning backfist. You were a 1408 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,960 Speaker 5: guy who was known for throwing spinning attacks in your career, Paully, 1409 01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:38,000 Speaker 5: So what do you have. 1410 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,920 Speaker 2: For us on on that move? Had you seen it before? 1411 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,360 Speaker 5: In Charbual's ability to execute it in Pronti, you know, 1412 01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:45,080 Speaker 5: after the fact. 1413 01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:46,760 Speaker 1: I think in the moment we were all kind of 1414 01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,880 Speaker 1: overwhelmed by it. But I've seen other people even posting 1415 01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,160 Speaker 1: their footage from some regional scenes and things like that 1416 01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,320 Speaker 1: where it's happened. I've done it where not knocked anybody 1417 01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,160 Speaker 1: out in an octagon with it, but I remember doing 1418 01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:01,800 Speaker 1: like a spinning back kick and turning three withinning back 1419 01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:05,240 Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, you know, it's just anytime you're putting 1420 01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:08,680 Speaker 1: an off guard situation, Kenny and Ray would understand too, right, 1421 01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,600 Speaker 1: that's kind of your instinct when your back is turned, like, oh, 1422 01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:13,600 Speaker 1: somebody's coming up behind me, you got to turn at 1423 01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,960 Speaker 1: least be offensive as you're kind of turning to face 1424 01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:19,599 Speaker 1: your garage. But dude, to do it in the moment, uh, 1425 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,479 Speaker 1: in that situation for UFC three oh eight. And I 1426 01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:24,920 Speaker 1: kind of heard a little bit of what your guys 1427 01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,360 Speaker 1: were talking about before I came on, you know, against 1428 01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,000 Speaker 1: somebody that he's pretty familiar with and is also familiar 1429 01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:33,040 Speaker 1: with him. That's what I think is most impressive about 1430 01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:36,320 Speaker 1: what Shara Bullet did is that, you know, to pull 1431 01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:39,920 Speaker 1: it off in big, high pressure situation against somebody that 1432 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:41,840 Speaker 1: knows you very well, knows that you pull off that 1433 01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,919 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. And man, he he caught him perfectly 1434 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:50,200 Speaker 1: with that. You see what's his name, I'm gonna forget 1435 01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:51,200 Speaker 1: his name now, John. 1436 01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:56,280 Speaker 7: Petrojosan Y think oh I've locked that one. We were 1437 01:08:56,400 --> 01:09:00,639 Speaker 7: plunging in and then later it was awesome. 1438 01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,439 Speaker 4: It was that redhead power, Paul power. 1439 01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,400 Speaker 6: There's definitely that's an example of the punch. You don't 1440 01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,559 Speaker 6: see that's yeah, that's the one. Yeah. 1441 01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:14,840 Speaker 1: Like he curled up and was just like, okay, nay. 1442 01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:19,040 Speaker 4: People expect a double backhand shot, but Paul was you know, 1443 01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,320 Speaker 4: you guys are sometimes privy to whether it's you know, 1444 01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,560 Speaker 4: hearing information on fight week or meeting with the fighters themselves, 1445 01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,920 Speaker 4: looking into their eye, seeing how the way cuts going 1446 01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,640 Speaker 4: all that stuff. Was there any indicators in either Toporia 1447 01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,759 Speaker 4: or Chimaya that they were going to pull off something 1448 01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:34,160 Speaker 4: like that? 1449 01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:38,800 Speaker 1: A well, dude, I've been following to Poria's YouTube page, 1450 01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:40,559 Speaker 1: which by the way, is all in Spanish, and I 1451 01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:43,680 Speaker 1: don't understand anything that they are saying. 1452 01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:44,479 Speaker 2: And I love it. 1453 01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,519 Speaker 7: I just love following this guy. 1454 01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:50,320 Speaker 1: I have loved this guy's charisma and skills since I'm 1455 01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,600 Speaker 1: telling you fight on them when we first when we 1456 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,320 Speaker 1: first interviewed this kid, and then I actually got to 1457 01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:57,439 Speaker 1: hang out with him after he knocked out Ji Herbert 1458 01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:58,880 Speaker 1: in London. I ran into the one I don't know 1459 01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:00,519 Speaker 1: if it was his manager or his which coming off 1460 01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,320 Speaker 1: the elevator and he's like, you got to come with me. 1461 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,559 Speaker 1: Toporia wants to say hi to you. It'd be great 1462 01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,080 Speaker 1: to see him as me and John goodin and we 1463 01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,720 Speaker 1: ended up going into his room and there's probably like 1464 01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:12,960 Speaker 1: eighteen men stuffed into this little hotel room in London, 1465 01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,519 Speaker 1: drinking champagne and other things that are going on in there. 1466 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,679 Speaker 7: And dude, it was just amazing. 1467 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,760 Speaker 1: He's got a white button down shirt opened up with 1468 01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,559 Speaker 1: all his gold chains, his noses all busted, and he's 1469 01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,160 Speaker 1: inviting us to Spain. 1470 01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:29,960 Speaker 7: Come hang out with us. So, uh, dude, I've been 1471 01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:30,559 Speaker 7: saying it. I could. 1472 01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,600 Speaker 1: Obviously I couldn't make predictions because I was calling it, 1473 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,519 Speaker 1: but I've been saying it to everybody that I know. 1474 01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:38,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I love Max Holloway, but I said it. 1475 01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:40,160 Speaker 1: I think Toporia is going to knock him out. I 1476 01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:44,720 Speaker 1: did he's And as far as the Shamaiah fight, yeah, 1477 01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:46,280 Speaker 1: of course I knew he could do that, but I 1478 01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:49,360 Speaker 1: kind of had a sneaking feeling that Robert Whitaker was 1479 01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:52,280 Speaker 1: just gonna have it to give him a fight at 1480 01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:54,559 Speaker 1: least and drag him into deep waters. 1481 01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,639 Speaker 7: And we were I was wrong on that one. 1482 01:10:56,720 --> 01:11:00,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, right with you and Paul, And based on what 1483 01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:04,679 Speaker 4: you saw from Chimaia of is that the next champ Man? 1484 01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:05,040 Speaker 7: I think? 1485 01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:05,160 Speaker 6: So? 1486 01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,559 Speaker 1: I think so I think if it's him and Drickis, 1487 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:10,320 Speaker 1: me and John we're kind of talking about this. I 1488 01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:14,040 Speaker 1: think Drickis is crazy and wild enough that and he 1489 01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:15,920 Speaker 1: was right. What was one of the first things that 1490 01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,080 Speaker 1: he tweeted was like, I'm gonna take your Oh like 1491 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:19,120 Speaker 1: this dude doesn't care. 1492 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:21,840 Speaker 7: Man, That's what I love about it, Like, let him, 1493 01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,280 Speaker 7: let him go at it. That's I know. 1494 01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:28,679 Speaker 1: Strickland's already on the social media and he's given his argument, 1495 01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,240 Speaker 1: and hey, man, that's your job, fight for your shot. 1496 01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,680 Speaker 1: But if it's me nothing against any of them, I 1497 01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:34,519 Speaker 1: want to see that fight. 1498 01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:35,240 Speaker 4: I really do. 1499 01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:37,559 Speaker 7: I think that's the fight if they can make it happen. 1500 01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:41,280 Speaker 1: There's there's some inside network stuff and visas stuff that 1501 01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,960 Speaker 1: they've got to figure out. But if those two can 1502 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:49,200 Speaker 1: agree to meet somewhere on common ground and fight, Hell yeah, Hey. 1503 01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:50,439 Speaker 2: Ray, We're gonna let you fly. 1504 01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,720 Speaker 5: We love you, We really are excited to see you 1505 01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:54,479 Speaker 5: at Madison Square Garden. I mean, can we go to 1506 01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:57,920 Speaker 5: an Italian restaurant with or without Bruce Buffer at some point? 1507 01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,600 Speaker 6: First of if we could never go anywhere without Bruce. 1508 01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:05,519 Speaker 2: But okay, Ray, I'm gonna be there. I hope to 1509 01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,120 Speaker 2: see your face. I'm gonna do awkward hug. 1510 01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:10,120 Speaker 4: Yes, I'm gonna try to. 1511 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:12,719 Speaker 6: I'm gonna try to hook us up at a really 1512 01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,200 Speaker 6: nice Italian place that's hard to get into. 1513 01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:17,840 Speaker 7: I see what you want, Ray, I'm there too. 1514 01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:21,200 Speaker 6: Oh awesome, let's do it. Man, you got I had 1515 01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,960 Speaker 6: the pleasure and the opportunity to watch Paul fell to 1516 01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,719 Speaker 6: hit pants right in front of me. Motherfucker is still going. 1517 01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:31,920 Speaker 6: He goes out tomorrow, goes into trust me, goes in tomorrow. 1518 01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,640 Speaker 6: If that's a litmus test of anything, he goes in 1519 01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:38,960 Speaker 6: there tomorrow and crushes somebody double double. All you had 1520 01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:43,679 Speaker 6: to do is yeah, triple backfist. Listen. I just showed 1521 01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:46,160 Speaker 6: a tape on the on the podcast of one of 1522 01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:49,040 Speaker 6: my girls, a kickboxing champ. She used to do that 1523 01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:50,960 Speaker 6: all the time. I just showed one of her clips 1524 01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,320 Speaker 6: doing that. So I love that. But I'll tell you 1525 01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:57,520 Speaker 6: the the jump spinning back kick to the spin backfist 1526 01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,639 Speaker 6: one of my favorite techniques at all time. And that's 1527 01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,320 Speaker 6: what I'm saying, Like with a lot of guys in 1528 01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,439 Speaker 6: the gym, they could do it. They haven't done it. 1529 01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, capable, They just that they just. 1530 01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:09,720 Speaker 6: Got to pull the trigger. Yeah, and I tell you, 1531 01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:13,160 Speaker 6: like a guy like al Joe in his wheelhouse easy because. 1532 01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,559 Speaker 1: He's such a kicker and yeah, ends up turning his 1533 01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,880 Speaker 1: back quite a bit, like dude. That that's and he's long, 1534 01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:18,840 Speaker 1: that's for sure. 1535 01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:23,160 Speaker 6: His jump spinning back kick is brutal. Yeah, like brutal. 1536 01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,640 Speaker 6: He's knocking guys across the gym. But he's got to 1537 01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,479 Speaker 6: He's starting to loosen up a little bit. I'm watching 1538 01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:31,679 Speaker 6: some sparring tapes, so I hope he uh, he believes 1539 01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:33,559 Speaker 6: in himself and he gets some of this crazy stuff 1540 01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:35,479 Speaker 6: off because he could do it all. So yeah, I 1541 01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:35,840 Speaker 6: love it. 1542 01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:39,599 Speaker 5: Well, Ray, I'm glad you highlighted Paulie on the pads 1543 01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:41,439 Speaker 5: because I spent the better part of the last seventy 1544 01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:42,840 Speaker 5: two hours. 1545 01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:44,120 Speaker 2: You know, blowing him up. 1546 01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,200 Speaker 5: Because I'm telling you right now, like within four months, 1547 01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,080 Speaker 5: like there's guys in the top fifteen, one hundred and fifty. 1548 01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:51,960 Speaker 2: I'm not People just don't understand. 1549 01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:54,400 Speaker 6: No, I'm not. I'm not joking. I'm not joking about it. 1550 01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,439 Speaker 6: I'm not. Just I love him, but I mean he 1551 01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:00,479 Speaker 6: really was dead on with his padwork, dead. 1552 01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:04,240 Speaker 2: Like these guys him and count hit him back. 1553 01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:07,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's well, that's the only X factor. But shout 1554 01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:09,640 Speaker 6: out to Steve Lee too, did a great joy. 1555 01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think he had a birthday recently as well, 1556 01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:13,439 Speaker 5: So you know. 1557 01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:16,439 Speaker 1: It's funny real quick about Steve Lee. Steve Lee and 1558 01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:19,160 Speaker 1: my boy Ryan Cafaro, who I also hit pads with. 1559 01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:20,120 Speaker 6: Isn't that funny? 1560 01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:25,799 Speaker 1: Very similar looking kids, both married to uh attractive white girls, 1561 01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,160 Speaker 1: both pregnant, both. 1562 01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,720 Speaker 7: Around the same time, and both the same birthday. 1563 01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:32,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the day. 1564 01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:33,760 Speaker 2: How about that? 1565 01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, and two really good guys who deserve a shout 1566 01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,439 Speaker 5: out and are worth rooting for. So that's nicely don Paul, Hey, Ray, 1567 01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:42,080 Speaker 5: we got to get you on out of here, having 1568 01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:43,639 Speaker 5: a great day in a better evening, and we will 1569 01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:45,559 Speaker 5: talk to you next Monday, if not sooner, my dear friends. 1570 01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:48,000 Speaker 6: All right, guys, love you. We'll see you next week. Man, 1571 01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:49,000 Speaker 6: take it easy, guys. 1572 01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:49,679 Speaker 2: Love you buddy. 1573 01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:51,280 Speaker 5: There he is at Ray Longo m and a Ray 1574 01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,240 Speaker 5: Longo minute every week as we go three wide and 1575 01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:54,719 Speaker 5: put the focus on Paul Felder. 1576 01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,640 Speaker 2: And yes, Paul, you know we're going to see you 1577 01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:58,360 Speaker 2: at some point. 1578 01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,960 Speaker 5: I got to think in some sort of competitive setting, 1579 01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,200 Speaker 5: and obviously we can talk about the Iron Man stuff 1580 01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:06,200 Speaker 5: and we will. But what do you think is more 1581 01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:10,280 Speaker 5: likely at this point in time in terms of striking 1582 01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:12,240 Speaker 5: future like seeing you and I mean, I know you're 1583 01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:14,160 Speaker 5: not gonna do bare knuckle because you're on TV, but 1584 01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:17,519 Speaker 5: like you know, like a karate combat type rule set 1585 01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:22,080 Speaker 5: wu Shosanda or actually coming back to the UFC, you 1586 01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:25,080 Speaker 5: know for maybe two fights or three, Like what what 1587 01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:26,960 Speaker 5: do you think is more likely at this stage of 1588 01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:27,360 Speaker 5: your life? 1589 01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:34,640 Speaker 1: I think I think striking competition that's not MMA affiliated 1590 01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:37,160 Speaker 1: is probably best for me, just because to get back 1591 01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:40,360 Speaker 1: into the UFC, I left the testing pool again, so 1592 01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,479 Speaker 1: I'd need another six months to get back into it, 1593 01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:45,519 Speaker 1: which is I mean, it's realistic. I'm not on the sauce. 1594 01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,120 Speaker 1: I haven't started cheating since I retired, so that's a 1595 01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:48,519 Speaker 1: good thing. 1596 01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,360 Speaker 7: I mean, that would be a difficult situation if I had, 1597 01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:52,040 Speaker 7: and guys have. 1598 01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:54,320 Speaker 1: I mean, we know one one out there who's been 1599 01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,080 Speaker 1: very vocal about it, our boy Seroni has been very 1600 01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,200 Speaker 1: upfront about what he has done since retirement. 1601 01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,720 Speaker 7: And I once come back, I don't have those difficulties. 1602 01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,320 Speaker 1: But you know the real thing is too And we 1603 01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:06,639 Speaker 1: talked about it, John where and I get it. 1604 01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:07,599 Speaker 4: I do get it. 1605 01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,040 Speaker 1: The UFC doesn't want you to come back, beat somebody 1606 01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:11,680 Speaker 1: and then bounce right. They want you to come back. 1607 01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:12,920 Speaker 1: If you're going to beat one of their guys. They 1608 01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:14,479 Speaker 1: want you to stick around. They want you at least 1609 01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:17,720 Speaker 1: in for a few fights and at forty forty one 1610 01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:21,519 Speaker 1: next year. Obviously, that's how math works. 1611 01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:22,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1612 01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:25,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if I have that MMA fight in me, 1613 01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:29,040 Speaker 1: but as far as a kickboxing or something along those 1614 01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:32,120 Speaker 1: rule sets, if I'm allowed to do it, that might 1615 01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,599 Speaker 1: be fun. And yeah, bare knuckles definitely out of the question. 1616 01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,599 Speaker 1: And I think straight boxing is out of the question too, 1617 01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:40,360 Speaker 1: because one of the reasons I retired young was because 1618 01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:44,400 Speaker 1: of you know, I want to maintain brain health. I 1619 01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:48,400 Speaker 1: want to be very functional for my family as I 1620 01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:51,320 Speaker 1: get older. And you know, boxing is worse than I 1621 01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:53,320 Speaker 1: think we all agree on that, worse than an MMA 1622 01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:58,799 Speaker 1: fight in terms of concussions and just accumulative shots to ahead. 1623 01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:00,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, we'll. 1624 01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:02,800 Speaker 1: See, you know how it is the motivation, and I'm 1625 01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:06,120 Speaker 1: sure Kenny understands You're always gonna have that. Like, ah man, 1626 01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:08,599 Speaker 1: this week, I feel like a world beater. I'm super hungry, 1627 01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,880 Speaker 1: and then maybe two weeks from now, when that courtizone shot, 1628 01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:12,559 Speaker 1: my hip starts to wear off a bit and I 1629 01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,519 Speaker 1: feel like I'm fifty eight and. 1630 01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:16,320 Speaker 4: Not hold right right. 1631 01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:18,840 Speaker 1: My tune might change, but I feel really good now. 1632 01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:22,360 Speaker 1: I'm feeling in good shape, and I don't know I'm 1633 01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:25,400 Speaker 1: having more More importantly, I'm having I'm having fun with it, 1634 01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:29,679 Speaker 1: fun being in the gym, rolling again, hitting pads again, 1635 01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:31,880 Speaker 1: and giving advice to the young guys that are in 1636 01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,040 Speaker 1: the UFC and guys on the regional scene that look 1637 01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:37,360 Speaker 1: up to me. I'm finally I feel taking that role 1638 01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:40,639 Speaker 1: on of accepting that, you know, I'm somebody that these 1639 01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:42,960 Speaker 1: guys have looked up to when I was in my 1640 01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,200 Speaker 1: prime and now they're entering their primes and if I 1641 01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:49,840 Speaker 1: can help out a little bit, it's starting to I'm 1642 01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:53,160 Speaker 1: starting to feel that old guy love of giving a 1643 01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:55,439 Speaker 1: little bit of advice and then seeing seeing it play 1644 01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:58,000 Speaker 1: out is very satisfying. 1645 01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:00,679 Speaker 5: And I know I always lean in to this when 1646 01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:03,880 Speaker 5: you're caught on film striking or grappling, and now when 1647 01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:05,559 Speaker 5: I see you grappling, I'm leaning all the way in. 1648 01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:07,880 Speaker 5: And I know there is the hip issue, right, but Kenny, 1649 01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,320 Speaker 5: part of the reason why I beat this drum for Pauli, Right, 1650 01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:13,240 Speaker 5: it's not because he's my friend, but in part it's 1651 01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:16,960 Speaker 5: is because people don't realize just how an elite triathlete 1652 01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:20,479 Speaker 5: he has become, right in terms of what he's put 1653 01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:22,360 Speaker 5: into this and that just let me, I mean, just 1654 01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:25,920 Speaker 5: check the humility for a second. Okay, So it hasn't 1655 01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,960 Speaker 5: been tested in the octagon, right, just how Now, granted 1656 01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,000 Speaker 5: he would have to make a major pivot from the 1657 01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,559 Speaker 5: triathlon training to the mixed martial arts training, right, but 1658 01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:37,840 Speaker 5: he wasn't nearly the triathlete he is now when he 1659 01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,599 Speaker 5: fought Halfayel dos Anjos for twenty five minutes on forty 1660 01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:43,960 Speaker 5: eight hours. Notice, So the thought of maybe employing some 1661 01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:47,000 Speaker 5: of that cardiovascular base in an MMA setting, right, with 1662 01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:49,280 Speaker 5: respect to the Diaz brothers, this is a totally different 1663 01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:51,519 Speaker 5: level triathlete we're talking about here, right, This is the 1664 01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:55,000 Speaker 5: pro level, a professional, right, So, like, I am curious 1665 01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:59,000 Speaker 5: to see that how how with that addition, how just 1666 01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,240 Speaker 5: how good he could be at fucking forty or any 1667 01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:02,439 Speaker 5: other goddamn age. 1668 01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:05,320 Speaker 4: You're fine, for sure, No, No, it's super helpful. My 1669 01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:09,880 Speaker 4: first nutritionist and conditioning guy was a triathlete and triathlete 1670 01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:14,160 Speaker 4: coach and how specific they are with how they do 1671 01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,960 Speaker 4: things is totally different. So I'm sure Paul has taken 1672 01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,559 Speaker 4: things to a whole new level in that regard. But yeah, man, 1673 01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:22,960 Speaker 4: but I would say this just because he can doesn't 1674 01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:26,200 Speaker 4: mean he will. And like Paul said, it's like having 1675 01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:29,000 Speaker 4: that fun of being able to do the training without 1676 01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:32,360 Speaker 4: having something in the future. You know, it's a different 1677 01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,879 Speaker 4: mentality than training for a fight. 1678 01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:39,080 Speaker 2: Right of course at Felder Paul on Instagram. 1679 01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:43,400 Speaker 5: If you want to follow PAULI UFC commentator back on 1680 01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:45,800 Speaker 5: the sticks this weekend in Edmonton, you got to go 1681 01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:47,800 Speaker 5: and everything else is going to be a busy That's 1682 01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:49,679 Speaker 5: gonna be a quick turn. I mean, I know it's 1683 01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,880 Speaker 5: Denver for you and then Edmonton, but that's dude, that's 1684 01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:53,719 Speaker 5: a quick turn. 1685 01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:54,080 Speaker 6: Man. 1686 01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:58,120 Speaker 1: It's you know, on paper, it's quick. Now that I'm 1687 01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:00,639 Speaker 1: living it and my suitcase is like sitting right over 1688 01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:02,439 Speaker 1: here and I'm about to throw it all in the 1689 01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:05,200 Speaker 1: laundry just to put it all right back into the bag, 1690 01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:07,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? In that sense, though, it 1691 01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,280 Speaker 1: does make it easier right where it's like I don't 1692 01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:12,280 Speaker 1: need I'm not putting anything back, put the shoes lined up, 1693 01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,240 Speaker 1: They're ready to go right back into the bag. 1694 01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:16,800 Speaker 2: All the clothes that I wore in Kababi. 1695 01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,439 Speaker 7: Throw them in the water. Yeah, let them dry, put. 1696 01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:21,000 Speaker 6: Them back in the bag. 1697 01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:21,920 Speaker 7: There's nothing about it. 1698 01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,120 Speaker 1: Riding my bike a little bit, get a workout in, 1699 01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,920 Speaker 1: and off on the road again. But then it's then 1700 01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:31,960 Speaker 1: it's Vegas the following week and MSG the next week, 1701 01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:35,240 Speaker 1: so it's it doesn't really slow down for a while, 1702 01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:37,760 Speaker 1: but then it does for the holidays. You guys know that, 1703 01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:40,320 Speaker 1: you know the schedule of the UFC starts to drastically 1704 01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:45,080 Speaker 1: slow November December, and then I think in January there's 1705 01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:47,280 Speaker 1: literally two shows. 1706 01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:50,040 Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, make that money now while I can nice. 1707 01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:53,040 Speaker 2: Five week ripper for Paul Felder before I got. 1708 01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:56,120 Speaker 1: To find somebody hold for me and in Edmonton. So 1709 01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:58,120 Speaker 1: we'll put it out on here. Though I haven't looked 1710 01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:00,560 Speaker 1: through the full card in detail. Hell of who I 1711 01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,840 Speaker 1: would know coach wise, there's gotta be somebody on that 1712 01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:06,519 Speaker 1: on that card that's willing to give you. 1713 01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:07,640 Speaker 2: Got to be somebody out there. 1714 01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:10,160 Speaker 5: If you're listening to the Anakin Florian podcast, who can 1715 01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:11,639 Speaker 5: hold pads for uh. 1716 01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,800 Speaker 7: Or even if anybody knows in Edmonton a gym. 1717 01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:15,920 Speaker 4: Or place I like. 1718 01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:18,400 Speaker 2: So we're live. So that's a good thing. 1719 01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:20,919 Speaker 5: So the next time we have you on, right, Cynthia 1720 01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:24,439 Speaker 5: Calvio gets fucking prime placement in this Paul Felder studio 1721 01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:26,360 Speaker 5: by the way, So the next time we have you, 1722 01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,040 Speaker 5: as far as these posters are concerned, No, here's what 1723 01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,160 Speaker 5: we're gonna do. And look at the young Dan Hooker 1724 01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:33,400 Speaker 5: and again I thought that fight. You won that fight 1725 01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:35,519 Speaker 5: by no. No, no, here's what we're gonna do next 1726 01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:37,920 Speaker 5: time you come on. So Cynthia Calvio can stay. But 1727 01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,559 Speaker 5: my god, that's some fucking real estate for Ponzanibio too. 1728 01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:42,519 Speaker 5: I mean to what does he know the fucking pleasure? 1729 01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:44,760 Speaker 5: You know, Yeah, that's what we're talking about. No, here's 1730 01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:46,880 Speaker 5: what you're gonna do. I'm serious. I know you want 1731 01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:50,120 Speaker 5: Felder Hooker in the center for obvious reasons, but just 1732 01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:52,960 Speaker 5: flip it with the Dilla Shop poster. I'm telling you, yeah, 1733 01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,560 Speaker 5: because that one gets blocked and then Hooker will be 1734 01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:57,880 Speaker 5: off and then you'll have your face right there where 1735 01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:02,200 Speaker 5: TJ is see what I'm saying. Yeah, dude, So next 1736 01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,720 Speaker 5: time we have you on, that's your homework, you know. 1737 01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:07,880 Speaker 5: And I'm gonna leave you with this, Paulie, if I could. 1738 01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:11,120 Speaker 5: So I came home to the greatest thing yesterday. So 1739 01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:13,920 Speaker 5: my kids have done jiu jitsu and they have quit 1740 01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:15,920 Speaker 5: shortly thereafter, just like the fucking dad. 1741 01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:18,559 Speaker 2: Okay, But so I get. 1742 01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:21,040 Speaker 5: Home yesterday and my daughter Tatum says to me, my 1743 01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:26,160 Speaker 5: friend Mackenzie is joining the wrestling team, the co educational 1744 01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:30,160 Speaker 5: middle school wrestling team. Both my daughter and her friend 1745 01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:32,040 Speaker 5: tried out for the basketball team and didn't make it, 1746 01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:33,920 Speaker 5: you know, as sixth graders trying out for these two 1747 01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:40,000 Speaker 5: middle school bas So my daughter joined the fucking wrestling team. 1748 01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:45,599 Speaker 2: And wow, today, Wow, what a turn. 1749 01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:47,040 Speaker 7: You didn't expect that, did. 1750 01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:47,759 Speaker 3: You, dude? 1751 01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,080 Speaker 5: Like, now my son is like off the goddamn hook, 1752 01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:53,160 Speaker 5: Like he can still be a pussy and be fine, 1753 01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:56,519 Speaker 5: you know, because she's doing it, you know. 1754 01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:58,280 Speaker 2: So we'll see how it goes. 1755 01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,280 Speaker 5: But if anybody has any advice for me as to 1756 01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:03,680 Speaker 5: how to get her to sustain and not quit on 1757 01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,559 Speaker 5: all ears, I mean, we'll do full fledged bribery if 1758 01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:06,880 Speaker 5: we have. 1759 01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:09,719 Speaker 4: To polliflower ere in the Anticha household. 1760 01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:10,080 Speaker 3: I love it. 1761 01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:14,120 Speaker 5: You imagine, man, dude, dude, I'm showing, like, give her 1762 01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:16,000 Speaker 5: a couple of years, he's going to be single legging you. 1763 01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:17,439 Speaker 6: No problem, dude. 1764 01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:20,439 Speaker 2: He's like strong and she's relentless. So we'll see. 1765 01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:22,120 Speaker 5: Like we were doing pummeling jolls this morning. I was 1766 01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:24,880 Speaker 5: showing her u a mirror. I was showing her Frank 1767 01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,760 Speaker 5: Mere's daughter Bella in her. I was on Instagram like, 1768 01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:28,519 Speaker 5: let's go tea. 1769 01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:30,200 Speaker 6: That's awesome. 1770 01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:31,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're the man. 1771 01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:33,720 Speaker 5: Enjoy Brandon Moreno and Amir al bosi Q and a 1772 01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:36,519 Speaker 5: with Pauli and DC on Friday. We appreciate uh some 1773 01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:40,439 Speaker 5: time and uh we'll do more triathlon stuff next time. 1774 01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:42,280 Speaker 5: When is your next race or are you just sort 1775 01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:44,040 Speaker 5: of not necessarily on the schedule right now. 1776 01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not even swimming or running at the moment. 1777 01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:48,800 Speaker 1: I think I'm going to start trying to test running 1778 01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,080 Speaker 1: out again while I'm in Edmonton, especially if i can't 1779 01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:53,880 Speaker 1: really get too much other stuff going on, I'll just 1780 01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,800 Speaker 1: do eve start doing easy treadmill runs. But I'm doing 1781 01:23:56,840 --> 01:24:01,040 Speaker 1: it just a ton of biking right now, just between 1782 01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:03,160 Speaker 1: today and tomorrow, I'm hoping to get in at least 1783 01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:06,920 Speaker 1: one hundred or more miles in two days, so trying 1784 01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:08,720 Speaker 1: to get it in while I came on here, and 1785 01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,960 Speaker 1: then once I hit a rip of a couple of 1786 01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:14,839 Speaker 1: months where the training is more sustained, I'll start swimming. 1787 01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:18,120 Speaker 1: And I'm already qualified for the Championships next year since 1788 01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:20,200 Speaker 1: I couldn't do them this year. Ironman was nice enough 1789 01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:25,000 Speaker 1: to postpone my championship slots from Kona to Nice, France 1790 01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:27,960 Speaker 1: next year. So if I start to feel good, I 1791 01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:29,920 Speaker 1: think I'm just going to go all in on the 1792 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:33,959 Speaker 1: Championships in France next year. And that's for the full distance. 1793 01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,439 Speaker 1: So I might do one race to test out how 1794 01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:40,280 Speaker 1: I feel and do like an Olympic distance, and then 1795 01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,960 Speaker 1: just build build build. 1796 01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:45,360 Speaker 7: For that one race and go all in and bring 1797 01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:45,879 Speaker 7: the family. 1798 01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:49,000 Speaker 1: And it's on the French Riviera, so just you know, 1799 01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:52,840 Speaker 1: spend spend the weekend there racing and then spend like 1800 01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:54,160 Speaker 1: three or four days afterwards. 1801 01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:58,160 Speaker 2: That's amazing. Yeah, it's awesome. I've been following from Afar. 1802 01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:01,120 Speaker 5: I downloaded the Ironman a occasion to my cell phone 1803 01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:02,920 Speaker 5: so I can follow my buddy. 1804 01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:04,160 Speaker 1: On my team who's a good friend of mine. His 1805 01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:07,080 Speaker 1: first ever full iron Man yesterday is kid Luke Craiger, 1806 01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:10,280 Speaker 1: a he's a monster, but he just won Ironman California. 1807 01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:14,240 Speaker 1: It was his first ever full Ironman and he won 1808 01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,960 Speaker 1: it and did just over eight hours in his first 1809 01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:21,280 Speaker 1: ever Ironman. Luke sub three hour or just over three 1810 01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:24,080 Speaker 1: hour marathon off of a one hundred and twelve mile bike. 1811 01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:27,599 Speaker 2: So yeah, cool, hen fucking Luke getting it done. I'm 1812 01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:28,160 Speaker 2: gonna come. 1813 01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:30,600 Speaker 5: I'm gonna come to one of your domestic triathlons to 1814 01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:33,200 Speaker 5: be sure. I may not attend your karate combat debut 1815 01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:34,800 Speaker 5: just because I don't want to see you can cuss 1816 01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:36,320 Speaker 5: anybody right in front of my eyes. 1817 01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:37,479 Speaker 2: But hey, thanks for. 1818 01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:39,400 Speaker 5: The time, buddy, and uh have a great call this 1819 01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:42,559 Speaker 5: weekend and uh look forward to seeing you soon Philadelphia's finest. 1820 01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:44,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and go hit up the producers, tell them we 1821 01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:46,640 Speaker 1: need more shows together this year, coming on. 1822 01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:47,080 Speaker 3: I will. 1823 01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:49,479 Speaker 5: I'm gonna make that call later today, Buddy, there is 1824 01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,400 Speaker 5: the Iron Dude, Paul Felder with us live on the 1825 01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:54,960 Speaker 5: anacon Florian podcast. The Mixed Martial Arts Athlete formerly known 1826 01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:56,840 Speaker 5: as the Irish Dragon. It's the Iron Loung Paul Felder, 1827 01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,040 Speaker 5: and you could be sure if he competes in that 1828 01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:04,160 Speaker 5: uh whatever that karate combat setting is it'll be the 1829 01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:06,479 Speaker 5: iron long Paul Felder nickname on front of the name, 1830 01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:10,160 Speaker 5: not behind it. All right, still a lot of business 1831 01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:13,080 Speaker 5: to attend to here as we spin it forward with 1832 01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:15,240 Speaker 5: our main event challenge, we go three wide again and 1833 01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:18,360 Speaker 5: welcome on big Gun, Brian Petrie. I don't know if 1834 01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:20,920 Speaker 5: we shortchanged anything at UFC three O eight. Brian, It's 1835 01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:22,360 Speaker 5: nice to see how we doing VP. 1836 01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:24,120 Speaker 3: Good boys, good boys? How are we doing? 1837 01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:27,400 Speaker 5: I mean, we congratulate Ebo Aslan and Jeff Neil And 1838 01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:30,960 Speaker 5: how about that fight between matauj Rombetsky and muchdebec oral 1839 01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:35,599 Speaker 5: bi Kenflow. Huh, You're crazy, just absolutely insane. You FC 1840 01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,640 Speaker 5: threeh eight delivered in any number of different ways. Just 1841 01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:41,559 Speaker 5: a crazy night. I mean I could go fight by fight, 1842 01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:45,760 Speaker 5: the absolute robbery upon which the night began. Faradashrat with 1843 01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:49,519 Speaker 5: his tremendous distance, Chris Barnett ripping his hamstring from the 1844 01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:53,519 Speaker 5: bone when Bruce Buffer announced him, right, it was absolutely crazy, 1845 01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:55,880 Speaker 5: but we got to spend it forward. Hey, Brian, So 1846 01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:58,720 Speaker 5: check this out. You don't think there's a pronunciation of 1847 01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:02,040 Speaker 5: the week today, right, because we've effectively killed that segment. 1848 01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:02,559 Speaker 3: And I read the email. 1849 01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:04,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we have one today. 1850 01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:07,400 Speaker 5: Okay, great, So we're gonna put you on the proverbial spot. 1851 01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:11,400 Speaker 2: So I know you've done your homework. 1852 01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,680 Speaker 5: And Derek Lewis is fighting somebody this weekend, and I 1853 01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,479 Speaker 5: don't know if you've watched film on this Brazilian heavyweight 1854 01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:22,799 Speaker 5: from Kodi Chiba, Brazil, but you're gonna have to pronounce 1855 01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,479 Speaker 5: his name when we get to the predictions. So you 1856 01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:27,600 Speaker 5: care to give it a gander right now if you 1857 01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,679 Speaker 5: wouldn't mind pulling up the name of Derek Lewis's opponent. 1858 01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:32,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got it right in front of me, So 1859 01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:34,320 Speaker 3: I did do tape study on this on them, and 1860 01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:37,560 Speaker 3: I know I'm gonna butcher anyway, but I know the 1861 01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:41,400 Speaker 3: d's a G right, So it's Joanata Janet's Is that. 1862 01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:41,880 Speaker 6: What it is? 1863 01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:42,800 Speaker 4: Right? 1864 01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:44,480 Speaker 2: Really good dude. 1865 01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:46,599 Speaker 3: Because I know it's not a fucking D even though 1866 01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:47,439 Speaker 3: there's a D there. 1867 01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:50,000 Speaker 5: Well, selectively, we do reserve the right to bring this 1868 01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:52,559 Speaker 5: segment back, and you did a wonderful job with it, Brian. 1869 01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:55,400 Speaker 5: I really happen to enjoy hearing the fighter himself say it. So, 1870 01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:57,599 Speaker 5: without further delay, we're going to get you that audio file, 1871 01:27:57,720 --> 01:27:58,760 Speaker 5: not now, but right now. 1872 01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:00,880 Speaker 2: That's cad Man. 1873 01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:10,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, Janata Jeni's jewel Nata genis. 1874 01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:14,400 Speaker 2: Gnis just like it's spelled bro. I know, dude, right, 1875 01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:15,599 Speaker 2: how did you tape. 1876 01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:17,320 Speaker 3: Study on that? I would have been like, I mean, 1877 01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:19,439 Speaker 3: I remember seeing him fight and I remember being like, 1878 01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:22,599 Speaker 3: how is that a G? But yeah, that's a that's 1879 01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:23,120 Speaker 3: a tough one. 1880 01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:29,000 Speaker 2: So I guess they go there. I can't keep it together. 1881 01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:31,320 Speaker 5: You know, the fans want Kenny to do that accent 1882 01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:35,200 Speaker 5: on the show, but I can't. I get completely distracted Janie. 1883 01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:38,040 Speaker 5: So you're saying they go Jonatha Jani's on the broadcast. 1884 01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:38,720 Speaker 2: Is that what they go with? 1885 01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:41,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, they do the hard G on 1886 01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:42,960 Speaker 3: the end of the time for sure. 1887 01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:46,200 Speaker 5: All right, fellas, we'll make some predictions, we'll update the standings, 1888 01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:48,400 Speaker 5: we'll get your bets, and we will get on out 1889 01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,680 Speaker 5: of here. We'll start with the featured prelimits UFC Fight 1890 01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:53,519 Speaker 5: Night Moreno versus Albasi. This one should be a good 1891 01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:56,040 Speaker 5: one at Bandon Wade American Top Teams Pedro Munos minus 1892 01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:59,280 Speaker 5: one thirty, Amen's the Hobby is plus one ten four 1893 01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:01,840 Speaker 5: straight wins for Rayman's a Hobby, the last of which 1894 01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,439 Speaker 5: came against Job at Basharatt as a heavy underdog back 1895 01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:06,760 Speaker 5: in March, and now he gets a crack. Bry had 1896 01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:10,080 Speaker 5: a bigger name, the formerly ranked Pedro Munoz, who is 1897 01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:12,320 Speaker 5: ten and nine with the UFC with a couple of 1898 01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:13,240 Speaker 5: no contests. 1899 01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:15,400 Speaker 2: What do you make of this one? Here featured prelim 1900 01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:16,479 Speaker 2: at one thirty five VP. 1901 01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:18,920 Speaker 3: Not falling for the chop, not doing it, not falling 1902 01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:20,720 Speaker 3: for the page on Iman no Chop. I think he's 1903 01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,080 Speaker 3: gonna wrestle. I think he's gonna grapple. I think, you know, 1904 01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:24,920 Speaker 3: this is a perfect fight to do that. And he 1905 01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:27,479 Speaker 3: doesn't last two fights. He hasn't done that. He is 1906 01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:29,720 Speaker 3: a very good striker. He's capable on the feet, but 1907 01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:32,280 Speaker 3: I think some of us packed the victory. We be 1908 01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:34,519 Speaker 3: better on the ground, and it's the hobby. Is a 1909 01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:39,559 Speaker 3: crafty striker. He's in a really elite game planner as well, 1910 01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:41,360 Speaker 3: with his brother being for Hass. You know, he goes 1911 01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:43,679 Speaker 3: in there and he really knows how to put together 1912 01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:46,360 Speaker 3: a fight, game plan and win. It's not high volume, 1913 01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:48,479 Speaker 3: has a little bit of pop, a little bit of power, 1914 01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:51,559 Speaker 3: has some KOs, but he's smart and he's really tough 1915 01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:53,760 Speaker 3: to bring down and he's hard to corner and you're 1916 01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:56,400 Speaker 3: gonna get out pointed. And Paeder Munos does that every time. 1917 01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:58,920 Speaker 3: He's gonna get out pointed here. I love the hobby 1918 01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:00,720 Speaker 3: at the plus money here. I think it's gonna go 1919 01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,120 Speaker 3: over probably two and a half is what they're listening 1920 01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:05,680 Speaker 3: to at. I like the hobby by decision. I just 1921 01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:08,760 Speaker 3: think Muno's is gonna fight with his heart, come out there, 1922 01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:11,120 Speaker 3: maybe throw some lake kicks, but I think it's a hobby. 1923 01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:13,200 Speaker 3: A hobby is just gonna take over the fight. I 1924 01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:14,800 Speaker 3: think he's an outpoint him. I think he's gonna win 1925 01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:15,240 Speaker 3: the fight here. 1926 01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:19,439 Speaker 5: Kenny Patro Munoz has had some big moments in the UFC. 1927 01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:23,120 Speaker 5: He does have double digit UFC wins, longevity, staying power, 1928 01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:25,320 Speaker 5: spend a lot of time in the rankings. I don't 1929 01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:27,880 Speaker 5: think he has the UFC record that he would have 1930 01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:30,880 Speaker 5: hoped for, and he's got just two wins in his 1931 01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:34,160 Speaker 5: last nine. All of that said, he's the favorite here 1932 01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:36,559 Speaker 5: against Damon's a hobby, a guy that you know particularly well. 1933 01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:38,280 Speaker 4: What he have for us on this one, Yeah, you know, 1934 01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:41,559 Speaker 4: I'll say this. I think Munio's has always been very talented. 1935 01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:45,599 Speaker 4: He's he's dangerous everywhere you know, coming from that Brazilian 1936 01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:49,439 Speaker 4: jitsu black belt background and then developing his striking to 1937 01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:51,719 Speaker 4: the level that he did, I always thought he would 1938 01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:53,880 Speaker 4: have a much better record, But I think a lot 1939 01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:57,320 Speaker 4: of those losses has to do with almost his toughness 1940 01:30:57,400 --> 01:30:59,960 Speaker 4: getting in the way of certain things. That's like, he'll 1941 01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:04,240 Speaker 4: take the hardest path to victory, sometimes often unnecessarily. 1942 01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:08,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, and I don't really see that changing. 1943 01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:10,240 Speaker 4: You know, some of the decisions he makes during the 1944 01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:13,280 Speaker 4: fights don't make a whole lot of sense to me sometimes. 1945 01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:17,599 Speaker 4: And for that reason, and because I'm biased Zahaby Aiman 1946 01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:20,640 Speaker 4: being a former training partner, I like aimin in this 1947 01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:23,840 Speaker 4: spot a great deal, and I was a little surprised 1948 01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:26,840 Speaker 4: by the odds. And you know, seeing Zahabby as the 1949 01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:30,160 Speaker 4: underdog here against Munos, I think you can get it done. 1950 01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:32,960 Speaker 4: Like Brian said, I think his wrestling is going to 1951 01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:35,040 Speaker 4: be better. He's not an easy guy to take down, 1952 01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:37,719 Speaker 4: and I think he'll be able to outpoint Munyos throughout 1953 01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:39,599 Speaker 4: fifteen minutes. So give me Za hobby. 1954 01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:43,040 Speaker 5: It has been so awesome to see Amin Zahabby really 1955 01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:45,719 Speaker 5: come into his own and reel off for successive wins 1956 01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:49,200 Speaker 5: in the UFC elite human being getting television work in 1957 01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:51,320 Speaker 5: Canada as well. We'll see how it goes for him 1958 01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:53,960 Speaker 5: against another really good egg and Pedro Munos this weekend 1959 01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:57,080 Speaker 5: in Edmonton Righten Welter wait Brian will see the extent 1960 01:31:57,160 --> 01:32:00,920 Speaker 5: to which Mike Mallot Propa Mike Mallot can bounce back 1961 01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:03,000 Speaker 5: forget a lost to Neil Magne his last time out. 1962 01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:06,120 Speaker 5: Canadian still get a lot of respect from the odds 1963 01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:09,200 Speaker 5: makers minus two to sixty five the favorite here against 1964 01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:11,680 Speaker 5: the UFC tested Trevin Giles, who comes back plus two 1965 01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:12,360 Speaker 5: to fifteen VP. 1966 01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:15,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike Alott, you know, decent nick nickname. I think 1967 01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:18,320 Speaker 3: he needs to change his nickname to the Canadian Hope 1968 01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:20,760 Speaker 3: because he's the He's the Canadian hope right now for 1969 01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:23,519 Speaker 3: anybody getting close to that title. They had a real 1970 01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:26,400 Speaker 3: long run with JSP and he's one of the greatest, 1971 01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:29,080 Speaker 3: probably Mount Rushmore guy. They need a guy right and 1972 01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:31,200 Speaker 3: and Mike Malott could be that guy. He got heat 1973 01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:33,800 Speaker 3: checked a little bit against Neil Magnie, right, some people 1974 01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:35,840 Speaker 3: maybe threw the fraud check on him. I don't think so. 1975 01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:37,599 Speaker 3: I think this guy's a very good fighter. I think 1976 01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:39,479 Speaker 3: he got heat checked by Neil Macne. He got Neil 1977 01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:41,719 Speaker 3: MAGNEI by Neil Magnie. I turned it into a verb. 1978 01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,040 Speaker 3: You go in there, you think you're gonna run through 1979 01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:46,760 Speaker 3: this guy, and you don't cause it's Neil Magni. Now 1980 01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:48,920 Speaker 3: Trevon Giles has a little bit of Neil magnet him, 1981 01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:51,080 Speaker 3: even though he's not Neil Magni. Done with the Neil 1982 01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:53,400 Speaker 3: Magne stuff. So Trevor Jias, listen, this guy fought at 1983 01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:56,160 Speaker 3: one eighty five and Mike Malotts fought as low as 1984 01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:59,080 Speaker 3: I think, so the size is gonna be on Dreven 1985 01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:01,800 Speaker 3: Trevon Giles side. However, they did Grappa before. I did 1986 01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:04,400 Speaker 3: watch that grappling match, and Mike Mallot was just a 1987 01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:07,280 Speaker 3: step ahead, better, faster, quicker, didn't get a submission, got 1988 01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:09,360 Speaker 3: the decision to win. In the grappling side of things. 1989 01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:11,839 Speaker 3: I think Mike Mallott, who went at four takedowns on Magni, 1990 01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:15,080 Speaker 3: just ran out of gas. He didn't have it if 1991 01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:17,439 Speaker 3: his cardios on point. I think he's a danger striker 1992 01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:18,840 Speaker 3: and I think he's better on the ground than Jem 1993 01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:21,120 Speaker 3: and draws. I think Trevin again has to use the 1994 01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:23,000 Speaker 3: size his length in this He wants to box up 1995 01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:25,320 Speaker 3: a lot, and if Lot's cardios on a point, we 1996 01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:27,160 Speaker 3: can have an upset here. But I do think since 1997 01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:30,320 Speaker 3: it's in Canada, he's the Canadian hope. We're getting Mike 1998 01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:33,200 Speaker 3: a lot and we're going big on him. Let's go, Kenny. 1999 01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:36,960 Speaker 5: Imagine opening a fighter meeting with Mike Allott and being like, hey, man, 2000 01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:39,800 Speaker 5: like how to feel to get magneed or what are 2001 01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:44,120 Speaker 5: your thoughts on getting magneyed back in January? It does work, 2002 01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:45,960 Speaker 5: I think as a verb. You know, Neil has a 2003 01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:48,639 Speaker 5: lot of magnet, a lot of people. He's pretty good 2004 01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:49,479 Speaker 5: stuff out of UVP. 2005 01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:50,320 Speaker 2: I'm laying in. 2006 01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:53,280 Speaker 5: So it has been four years can flow since Trevin 2007 01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:56,960 Speaker 5: Giles's last finish. Interesting matchmaking for him, and I guess 2008 01:33:57,000 --> 01:34:00,719 Speaker 5: I should probably say difficult, right. Prospects like Mike Morales, 2009 01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:04,120 Speaker 5: Gabriel bon Fime, Carlos Protest, who takes part in his 2010 01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:06,439 Speaker 5: first UFC main event next week. We'll see if he 2011 01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:11,000 Speaker 5: gets magnied Giles seven and six in the UFC. Kenny 2012 01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:13,439 Speaker 5: and looking to avoid a third straight loss here against 2013 01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:14,080 Speaker 5: Mike Mallott. 2014 01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:17,200 Speaker 4: Your thoughts, Yeah, I mean Magni is so damn tough 2015 01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:20,000 Speaker 4: and Malot was really in control for the majority of 2016 01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:23,160 Speaker 4: that fight, in my opinion, and him going for that 2017 01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:27,320 Speaker 4: leg lock I think was unnecessary and because of that, 2018 01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:31,479 Speaker 4: he got beat up, gassed out, and kind of was 2019 01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:33,799 Speaker 4: not with it there late in the third round, allowing 2020 01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:37,719 Speaker 4: Magni back into that fight. So you hope that Malot's 2021 01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:40,000 Speaker 4: gonna learn from that. And to me, I thought his 2022 01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:42,360 Speaker 4: striking looked way better the way that he was kind 2023 01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:45,760 Speaker 4: of measuring his pace and measuring his takedowns and things 2024 01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:48,120 Speaker 4: like that. I thought he was looking pretty good up 2025 01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:50,160 Speaker 4: into that decision to go for the leg So yeah, 2026 01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:53,280 Speaker 4: Magni did Magni things. And for Giles, I think that 2027 01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:55,960 Speaker 4: this is a guy who I agree with Brian is 2028 01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:58,479 Speaker 4: gonna have that size advantage. I think for him, he's 2029 01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:01,440 Speaker 4: got to keep this fight on the feet at all costs. 2030 01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:02,719 Speaker 2: He's got to stay off. 2031 01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:05,519 Speaker 4: His back and look for Malot on one of those 2032 01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:08,160 Speaker 4: entries to try to catch him coming in. If he's 2033 01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:10,280 Speaker 4: able to do that, I think Jiles has the power 2034 01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:13,519 Speaker 4: to maybe get it done. Otherwise, he's gonna have to 2035 01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:16,040 Speaker 4: be pretty perfect with his anti grappling, and I. 2036 01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:18,479 Speaker 2: Don't really seeing that happen. I really don't see that 2037 01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:19,200 Speaker 2: happening here. 2038 01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:22,000 Speaker 4: I think Mallot's the favorite for a reason, and it 2039 01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:24,280 Speaker 4: being in Canada, I think is a good sign as well. 2040 01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:25,519 Speaker 4: So give me my lot here. 2041 01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:27,200 Speaker 5: One time in my life, I want to go to 2042 01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:30,120 Speaker 5: a bar in Boston when Mike Malott is fighting and 2043 01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:32,479 Speaker 5: hear the fans be like, dude, I don't know man. 2044 01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:36,760 Speaker 3: I like him a lot like him, a lot like Oh. 2045 01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:39,400 Speaker 5: I put so much money on my lot and now 2046 01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:42,320 Speaker 5: I got to eat at home for like three weeks 2047 01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:45,719 Speaker 5: because Magni beat him at mid ofweight. Mark Andre Barrio 2048 01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:47,640 Speaker 5: is the minus one ninety eight favorite here taking on 2049 01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:52,400 Speaker 5: Dustin Stultzfus plus one sixty four. Another Canadian showcase here 2050 01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:55,799 Speaker 5: for Power bar candflow five and seven for Mark Andre 2051 01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:58,599 Speaker 5: with one no contest in the UFC, so five wins 2052 01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:01,040 Speaker 5: in his thirteen UFC starts. Lost the split to Chris 2053 01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:03,040 Speaker 5: Curtis to begin the year that was UFC two ninety 2054 01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:05,880 Speaker 5: seven and then UFC three oh three no judges needed. 2055 01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:08,720 Speaker 5: He was put out quickly there by Joe Pifer. Stultzfus 2056 01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:10,880 Speaker 5: on the other side two and five in the UFC 2057 01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:13,920 Speaker 5: after a knockout lost to Bruno Fajita back in June Kenny, 2058 01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:15,920 Speaker 5: we'll start with you here. You go in power bar 2059 01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:18,799 Speaker 5: or Dustin Stoltzfus at one hundred and eighty five pounds. 2060 01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:22,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I think Stoltzfus, if he's able to get 2061 01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:24,240 Speaker 4: things done with his grappling, he can really pose a 2062 01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:28,600 Speaker 4: lot of problems for mab here. So it's hard to 2063 01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:31,519 Speaker 4: figure out which way it's gonna go because sometimes you 2064 01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:35,160 Speaker 4: see Barrio out there and perform extremely well, and other 2065 01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:37,800 Speaker 4: times it seems like he's not necessarily in there or 2066 01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:39,800 Speaker 4: kind of makes some mistakes in fight. 2067 01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:42,519 Speaker 2: So I think he should be able to pull it off. 2068 01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:44,960 Speaker 4: I'm not going to touch this from a betting standpoint, 2069 01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:49,040 Speaker 4: but I think if if Mark Andre Barrio is able 2070 01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:50,600 Speaker 4: to keep this one on the feet, I think he 2071 01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:54,000 Speaker 4: will find his spot to maybe hurt Stoltzfus. But I 2072 01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:55,479 Speaker 4: think a lot of it has to do with how 2073 01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:58,760 Speaker 4: that fight kind of starts. If Burio can set the 2074 01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:00,880 Speaker 4: pace early, I think I think he can win this. 2075 01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:03,719 Speaker 4: But Sultzwiss could get it done with his grappling as well. 2076 01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:04,599 Speaker 2: BP. 2077 01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:08,200 Speaker 5: Who do you like, Mark Andre Barrio or Dustin Stoltzfus. 2078 01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:11,120 Speaker 3: I've been burned by stolefoots too many times at that 2079 01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:12,760 Speaker 3: plus money number. You know, this is the guy that 2080 01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:14,680 Speaker 3: dumped Joe Pifer, broke his arm. I'm like, oh, he's 2081 01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:16,759 Speaker 3: got some good grappling two and five and the UFC 2082 01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:18,760 Speaker 3: sense in. You know, I'm on the wrong side of 2083 01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:21,200 Speaker 3: a lot of it. I think Mark Andre Barry, listen, 2084 01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:23,960 Speaker 3: this guy's a volume guy. He's tough, He's gonna be 2085 01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:26,400 Speaker 3: in there, take down the fence above average. I love 2086 01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:28,320 Speaker 3: his cardio now that he's turning down there in South 2087 01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:31,600 Speaker 3: Florida and he's just run into two good guys. You know, 2088 01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:34,240 Speaker 3: Chris Curtis outstruck him. You know, he's a very competitive fight. 2089 01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:36,800 Speaker 3: Chris is lanet more volume than Joe Pifer's laying a 2090 01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:38,760 Speaker 3: big right hand. I think those are fights that you 2091 01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:41,439 Speaker 3: can look past, even though you're owing two. I like 2092 01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:43,519 Speaker 3: barioed here. I think the line might be a little 2093 01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:45,280 Speaker 3: too high for me to really run to the window 2094 01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:47,120 Speaker 3: and touch for a guy coming off O and two 2095 01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:49,040 Speaker 3: and not the youngest guy in the world. But we're 2096 01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:52,120 Speaker 3: in Canada. I love the Canadian fans. I hope the 2097 01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:55,799 Speaker 3: Canadians sweep the board. So I'm not picking against any Canadians. 2098 01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:57,200 Speaker 3: Give me, give me Mark Andre. 2099 01:37:57,680 --> 01:38:00,599 Speaker 2: See, I'm an American. I never hope the Canadian Dang, 2100 01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:02,360 Speaker 2: there are brothers in the North. 2101 01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:12,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess, I think, yeah, I mean crowd. 2102 01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:15,160 Speaker 5: I have a much closer personal relationship with Mark Andre 2103 01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:18,599 Speaker 5: Barrio than Dustin Stoltzfus. And by the way, I think 2104 01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:20,559 Speaker 5: he was maybe born in America, but I don't know. 2105 01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:26,040 Speaker 5: I think, yeah, No, Mark Andre Barrio's teammate at the 2106 01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:29,840 Speaker 5: Institute of Human Performance. But yeah, I mean, like, I 2107 01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:31,880 Speaker 5: do have some pride in the Stars and stripes, so 2108 01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:34,000 Speaker 5: I would never blindly be rooting for the Canadians like 2109 01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:34,799 Speaker 5: against Americans. 2110 01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:36,320 Speaker 2: I wouldn't think anyway. 2111 01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:39,719 Speaker 5: Let us get to the heavyweights if we could featured 2112 01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:42,040 Speaker 5: about on the main card on ESPN. Plus a lot 2113 01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:44,439 Speaker 5: of good names on this card preliminarily as well in 2114 01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:46,960 Speaker 5: terms of Jack Shore and charl Air Jordain against the 2115 01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:50,599 Speaker 5: Man La Mangosta Victor Henry, but this one's at heavyweight. 2116 01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:53,160 Speaker 5: Jonathan Denise minus one eighty taken on the Black Besteric 2117 01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:56,519 Speaker 5: Lewis plus one fifty Denise eight no Jenny's eight No 2118 01:38:56,720 --> 01:38:59,519 Speaker 5: is a pro seven knockouts. Born and raised in Kodi, Chiba, 2119 01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:02,000 Speaker 5: decorated kickboxer here trains. 2120 01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:03,400 Speaker 2: Under Jonathan Maloketto. 2121 01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:06,759 Speaker 5: He now draws the decorated UFC knockout artist Derek Lewis VP. 2122 01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:08,840 Speaker 2: A couple of big boys here. Who do you like? 2123 01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:12,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? Uh well, Johnny plug Years, I'm not picking the 2124 01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:14,639 Speaker 3: American in this fight either. 2125 01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:16,679 Speaker 2: Buddy, your colors don't run. 2126 01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:20,800 Speaker 3: But listen. I like Janet's in this spot. Derek Lewis, 2127 01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:22,640 Speaker 3: I can't get a fight right, am. I might as 2128 01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:25,000 Speaker 3: well just blindly pick it or have my one of 2129 01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:27,160 Speaker 3: my kids pick it, because I can't get him right. 2130 01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:29,680 Speaker 3: But I know there's a track record to beat him, 2131 01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:31,160 Speaker 3: take him down and lay on top of him. Were 2132 01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:33,559 Speaker 3: Janie is gonna do that? Janiez is a kickboxer. He's 2133 01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:35,120 Speaker 3: gonna come out there and tack them. He's gonna go 2134 01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:37,400 Speaker 3: out there and out technique him, kick him to the body, 2135 01:39:37,479 --> 01:39:39,960 Speaker 3: stay away from the big power ranking. And Derek Lewis 2136 01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:42,200 Speaker 3: is probably gonna fake hurt to the body. He's gonna 2137 01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:44,320 Speaker 3: rush in. He knows all this stuff. I think Jane's 2138 01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:47,240 Speaker 3: who hasn't really blown me away yet. I think he's 2139 01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:51,080 Speaker 3: still early in his MMA career, and Derek Lewis obviously 2140 01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:55,000 Speaker 3: has all the more the better resume the better ring time. Obviously, 2141 01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:57,200 Speaker 3: not many people are gonna match him in heavyweight with 2142 01:39:57,240 --> 01:39:59,599 Speaker 3: his with his resume, but I like Janezzi. I think 2143 01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:02,360 Speaker 3: Jane gets a done minus one eighty is a proper line. 2144 01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:04,920 Speaker 3: I think I think that makes a complete sense for me. 2145 01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:07,960 Speaker 3: Maybe we'll load up if it wasn't heavyweight. My heavyweight 2146 01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:10,360 Speaker 3: track records fucking awful. And I can't pick a Derek 2147 01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:13,200 Speaker 3: Lewis fight right, but give me the Brazilian can flow. 2148 01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:16,200 Speaker 2: Uh, this could be an interesting fight. 2149 01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:20,280 Speaker 4: Man, Jeddikie Louis, Man, Jeddikie Louie, very good fight man, 2150 01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:25,040 Speaker 4: very dangerous, very good strikeee be a handy. 2151 01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:29,639 Speaker 2: So for me, man, I'm gonna go out there, ko bitch, 2152 01:40:29,960 --> 01:40:31,400 Speaker 2: do my best. 2153 01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:34,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, see what happened? Man, Okay, So listen, I think 2154 01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:36,439 Speaker 4: it's gonna be a I think it's been an interesting fight. 2155 01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:39,640 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go the other way that heavyweights are tricky 2156 01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:43,560 Speaker 4: to our, tricky to pick man, but I think Janie's 2157 01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:48,000 Speaker 4: like he does get hit a lot. And for Derek Lewis, 2158 01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:51,240 Speaker 4: of course it only takes one. And this guy it's 2159 01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:54,479 Speaker 4: hard to figure out when he's gonna show up. I 2160 01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:58,599 Speaker 4: also would be surprised if Jeddikie Louie decided to look 2161 01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:02,519 Speaker 4: for a takedown here chick jown man, chick John against 2162 01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:05,639 Speaker 4: Jeni's who knows man, Maybe he does so shoogeh its 2163 01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:09,599 Speaker 4: igainst the Brazilian fight. But uh, I like Derek Lewis here. 2164 01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:11,560 Speaker 4: I think he's got a spot at the knockout. I 2165 01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:14,200 Speaker 4: think he's got a chance at putting Jeni's on his back. 2166 01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:19,800 Speaker 4: And Ah Lewis in a striking fight with an underdog 2167 01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:22,479 Speaker 4: against a new Ish fighter in the UFC. 2168 01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:27,200 Speaker 5: Gimme Jeddiky Louis nicely don Jemflo really nicely done. Black 2169 01:41:27,240 --> 01:41:29,479 Speaker 5: Pass won two of three nineteen to ten of the UFC. 2170 01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:33,439 Speaker 5: Got his fifteenth UFC knockout back in May. Some of 2171 01:41:33,439 --> 01:41:35,640 Speaker 5: those words you say with that accent do sound like 2172 01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:36,439 Speaker 5: Amanda new Nez. 2173 01:41:36,479 --> 01:41:37,840 Speaker 2: I think that's what gets me there. 2174 01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:40,200 Speaker 3: I hear Henzo Gracie. I hear Henzo. 2175 01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:42,679 Speaker 5: Oh we got to see Henzo actually an Abu Dhabi 2176 01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:44,320 Speaker 5: in the broadcast boot there for a minute, all right? 2177 01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:47,160 Speaker 5: Co main event women's flyweight ranks, BP will have you 2178 01:41:47,240 --> 01:41:49,439 Speaker 5: lead us off here. Third ranked Aaron Blansfield Modus won 2179 01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:52,040 Speaker 5: thirty five, number five thug rosami. 2180 01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:54,559 Speaker 2: Unis is plus one fourteen. So Blanchfield, coming. 2181 01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:57,320 Speaker 5: Off her second pro loss, first in the UFC, came 2182 01:41:57,360 --> 01:42:00,160 Speaker 5: over five rounds to an old four. Perhaps that and 2183 01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:02,559 Speaker 5: Spry is of value here. This one's scheduled for twenty 2184 01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:05,280 Speaker 5: five minutes. In the co headliner out of the blue corner, 2185 01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:07,640 Speaker 5: of course, the future Hall of Famer Rose nama unis 2186 01:42:08,160 --> 01:42:11,600 Speaker 5: realizing some greatness here in a second division. What do 2187 01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:13,360 Speaker 5: you think about this co headliner BP? 2188 01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:15,960 Speaker 3: I love the fight. I love the fight, I love 2189 01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:19,160 Speaker 3: the matchmaking Rose. I feel like she really fell in 2190 01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:21,240 Speaker 3: love with the sport when when she was a champion 2191 01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:22,880 Speaker 3: and lost her title. I feel like there was maybe 2192 01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:25,800 Speaker 3: some rumblings she might retire, but now she's like rejuvenated 2193 01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:29,440 Speaker 3: one twenty five. She's fighting often, She's fighting top competition. 2194 01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:32,760 Speaker 3: She look great in the Tracy Cortez fight, and I 2195 01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:36,400 Speaker 3: love that forro She's an ultimate or ultra talented. You know, 2196 01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:38,920 Speaker 3: one of the best females has ever competed in MMA, 2197 01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:41,200 Speaker 3: and I'm a big fan of her. Now we all know, 2198 01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:43,840 Speaker 3: I got a little little crushy crush on Aaron Blansfield. 2199 01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:44,080 Speaker 4: Bland. 2200 01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:46,120 Speaker 3: Should you know I've never met you I'm sorry to 2201 01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:48,280 Speaker 3: put you down this easy. You know, I'm much significantly 2202 01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:50,920 Speaker 3: older than you, married with two children. But it's not 2203 01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:52,679 Speaker 3: gonna work out between us. I'm sorry, it's not gonna 2204 01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:54,880 Speaker 3: work out. But you were a fantastic fighter. But I 2205 01:42:54,920 --> 01:42:57,679 Speaker 3: did think she got a little bullied last time out 2206 01:42:57,680 --> 01:43:01,080 Speaker 3: against Man, for which is I said, perfect, John, don't laugh, 2207 01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:04,519 Speaker 3: don't laugh, John, I said. And but you know, Monan 2208 01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:07,600 Speaker 3: looked just having three weight classes bigger than her in 2209 01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:10,679 Speaker 3: Blansfield when she couldn't get the takedowns, she hung tough, 2210 01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:13,400 Speaker 3: she showed hard, She landed one hundred and thirty strikes 2211 01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:15,519 Speaker 3: like she did not give up on herself even though 2212 01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:17,400 Speaker 3: she's gonna get the takedown. But even in the Clint 2213 01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:21,120 Speaker 3: she just seemed off right. And I think Rose can 2214 01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:23,080 Speaker 3: give up some takedowns and be okay on the ground 2215 01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:26,000 Speaker 3: because Blanchfield has dominated other fighters on the ground, but 2216 01:43:26,479 --> 01:43:28,800 Speaker 3: they weren't Rose on Unis. Rose on Unis is good 2217 01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:31,479 Speaker 3: off her back, her takedown the fence has improved. It's 2218 01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:32,920 Speaker 3: not gonna be a walk in the park when you 2219 01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:35,080 Speaker 3: finally land that takedown, right, you got to do more 2220 01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:37,280 Speaker 3: on that. And I think Rose is obviously sharper on 2221 01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:38,800 Speaker 3: the feet. Now Rose has to show up in this 2222 01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:40,920 Speaker 3: fight for sure. This isn't a walk in the park 2223 01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:44,160 Speaker 3: for her. But I think her striking, her speed, her counting, 2224 01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:47,360 Speaker 3: counter striking as well. Because Blanchells does kind of lunge 2225 01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:50,160 Speaker 3: forward a lot throws kind of hoopy stuff. I think 2226 01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:52,479 Speaker 3: Rose can counter with some really good, beautiful straight right hands, 2227 01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:54,800 Speaker 3: and I think that's gonna be on the money. So 2228 01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:56,680 Speaker 3: give me Rose. I like the dog money here on 2229 01:43:57,400 --> 01:43:57,960 Speaker 3: Thug Rose. 2230 01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:01,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was a bit surprise can flow to see 2231 01:44:01,400 --> 01:44:04,439 Speaker 5: on DraftKings Sportsbook Rose Nama Unison Trench as the underdog here. 2232 01:44:04,439 --> 01:44:06,160 Speaker 5: She's had a huge year, back to back man event 2233 01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:09,040 Speaker 5: wins over Amanda he Boston, Tracy Cortes. Your thoughts on 2234 01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:13,160 Speaker 5: are here against Aaron cold Blooded Petrie Blanchfield. 2235 01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:16,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I see a lot of interesting odds on 2236 01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:20,519 Speaker 4: this card, and you know this is one of them. Certainly. 2237 01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:24,320 Speaker 4: I think Blanchefield is tough. I think she definitely proved 2238 01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:27,720 Speaker 4: her toughness and she showed that she is dangerous on 2239 01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:29,439 Speaker 4: the ground, no question about it. But I think now 2240 01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:32,160 Speaker 4: me Unis had a pretty good fight last time out 2241 01:44:32,160 --> 01:44:34,760 Speaker 4: against Cortes. Over the course of twenty five minutes, and 2242 01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:38,800 Speaker 4: I think showed that her takedown defense is improving. 2243 01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:43,640 Speaker 2: I don't see Blanchfield having takedowns at the level of 2244 01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:47,400 Speaker 2: someone like Cortes, and I think Cortes stayed quite busy 2245 01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:49,639 Speaker 2: with her striking and things like that like that as well, 2246 01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:52,120 Speaker 2: and nam Unis has a ton of experience. But as 2247 01:44:52,160 --> 01:44:55,439 Speaker 2: Brian mentioned, it's hard sometime to figure out what noma 2248 01:44:55,560 --> 01:44:57,680 Speaker 2: Unis is gonna be out there. Is she hungry, is 2249 01:44:57,720 --> 01:45:00,040 Speaker 2: she motivated? You know? What's her so? 2250 01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:04,280 Speaker 4: What's her headspace like? If she comes in sharp, I 2251 01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:07,680 Speaker 4: think nomm Unis wins this pretty handily. Actually, I think 2252 01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:10,240 Speaker 4: she keeps this one on the feet and pieces Blanchefield up. 2253 01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:10,639 Speaker 2: On the feet. 2254 01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:13,280 Speaker 4: That's for me, is where Blanchefield needs to make her 2255 01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:16,479 Speaker 4: most improvement is with her striking and her wrestling, and 2256 01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:18,720 Speaker 4: I'm not sure it's going to turn around to be 2257 01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:21,800 Speaker 4: that much of an improvement this time out. If it is, 2258 01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:24,599 Speaker 4: she surprises and she gets it done, and I think 2259 01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:26,960 Speaker 4: she can definitely, you know, get back on her way 2260 01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:30,320 Speaker 4: to the championship run. But I think nom Munis is 2261 01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:32,000 Speaker 4: in a good spot. Here, give gimme rose. 2262 01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:34,920 Speaker 5: My camera hates this shot. Cody, feel free to get 2263 01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:37,080 Speaker 5: off at any time. I keep going fucking blurry. Main 2264 01:45:37,120 --> 01:45:40,519 Speaker 5: event Men's flyweight eliminator between the former two time champ 2265 01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:42,960 Speaker 5: Random Moreno minus won thirty five at Amir al Bosi 2266 01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:46,880 Speaker 5: plus one thirty so the Iraqi al Bosi somewhat the 2267 01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:47,960 Speaker 5: forgotten man in the. 2268 01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:49,800 Speaker 2: Division here BP a little bit right. 2269 01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:52,000 Speaker 5: He has risen to number three in the world and 2270 01:45:52,160 --> 01:45:54,320 Speaker 5: is likely to fight the winner of all Desonre Pantosia 2271 01:45:54,320 --> 01:45:57,200 Speaker 5: and Kayasa Kora if he gets the win here. 2272 01:45:57,240 --> 01:45:57,840 Speaker 2: He's five and zero. 2273 01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:00,360 Speaker 5: In the US, he's seventeen and one overall, but he 2274 01:46:00,439 --> 01:46:03,280 Speaker 5: hasn't fought since a very close fight against Kai Conti France, 2275 01:46:03,320 --> 01:46:05,479 Speaker 5: and that was a long time ago. Was supposed to 2276 01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:09,280 Speaker 5: fight Brandon Moreno neck injury. Now it shall be done, 2277 01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:10,880 Speaker 5: and it feels like it's all in front of the 2278 01:46:10,920 --> 01:46:11,559 Speaker 5: Mirra al Bosi. 2279 01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:13,200 Speaker 2: Brian Petrie. Who do you like in the main event? 2280 01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:14,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? 2281 01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:14,599 Speaker 2: I would. 2282 01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:17,439 Speaker 3: I only literally thought this was a layup with Brandon Moreno. 2283 01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:20,320 Speaker 3: But however, you know his last fight, his last as 2284 01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:21,800 Speaker 3: se against for a Voice. He's like it was a 2285 01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:24,559 Speaker 3: semi retirement. I need a long break. That was back 2286 01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:27,240 Speaker 3: in February so that kind of throws me pause, like 2287 01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:29,160 Speaker 3: where's his menth wile, why is he taking this fight? 2288 01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:32,519 Speaker 3: Was was that break long enough or or or UFC 2289 01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:35,040 Speaker 3: offered him something he couldn't refuse? Not really sure, so 2290 01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:37,200 Speaker 3: going into that that throws me a little pause. And 2291 01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:40,080 Speaker 3: al Bosi, this is a heat check. I said on 2292 01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:42,200 Speaker 3: Mike Mallatt he got Neil Magnet. You know that was 2293 01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:43,760 Speaker 3: a heat This is he checked on Bozzie because I 2294 01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:47,320 Speaker 3: thought he lost the kay Car. I rewatched that fight yesterday. 2295 01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:50,599 Speaker 3: Not sure how they saw that for al Bosi, however, Yeah, 2296 01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:53,760 Speaker 3: Abassi a very talented fighter, you know, like likes to 2297 01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:56,080 Speaker 3: around his mouth a little bit, which I love, adds 2298 01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:58,320 Speaker 3: to uh, adds a little flavor to this one twenty 2299 01:46:58,360 --> 01:47:03,479 Speaker 3: five er, And you're right, he's title contention since Tessu 2300 01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:06,120 Speaker 3: or Tyra dropped a Rovall. I mean he could fight 2301 01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:09,240 Speaker 3: Rovall as well later on the road. This was the 2302 01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:11,719 Speaker 3: toughest fight to pick for sure, because I like Brandon Marino. 2303 01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:13,160 Speaker 3: I think he's a very talented guy. I think he 2304 01:47:13,200 --> 01:47:15,600 Speaker 3: gets better. But the mental side of it kind of 2305 01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:17,240 Speaker 3: worries me a little bit. Is he taking this for 2306 01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:19,479 Speaker 3: a paycheck? Is he taking this because he's a company man. 2307 01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:22,040 Speaker 3: Not sure All Bossi is dangerous on the ground, couldn't 2308 01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:24,040 Speaker 3: really get takedowns like Kaikar franch. I think he'll be 2309 01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:26,760 Speaker 3: able to get takedown to Morino. They're gonna scramble, They're 2310 01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:29,080 Speaker 3: gonna have some good battles on the ground. With the 2311 01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:31,320 Speaker 3: grappling and the striking. I think he's kind of a wash. 2312 01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:34,000 Speaker 3: Marino has some decent striking when it comes to his hands, 2313 01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:36,439 Speaker 3: good body kicks, but I think All Bossie it's just 2314 01:47:36,439 --> 01:47:38,200 Speaker 3: gonna be a little bit step ahead with the speed 2315 01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:41,120 Speaker 3: as well. I'm gonna go Bossie because he's plus one thirty. 2316 01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:42,120 Speaker 3: I like the number. 2317 01:47:42,200 --> 01:47:42,920 Speaker 4: I like the dog. 2318 01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:46,320 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a small play on me for All Bossie. 2319 01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:48,439 Speaker 3: You know impersonal. I probably won't play someone on our 2320 01:47:48,479 --> 01:47:50,719 Speaker 3: little our contest, but I like All Bossi. 2321 01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:54,679 Speaker 5: Seems as though maybe Brandon Moreno wasn't one hundred percent 2322 01:47:54,720 --> 01:47:57,120 Speaker 5: going into that Mexico City main event against Brandon roy 2323 01:47:57,200 --> 01:48:00,880 Speaker 5: Vall accepted the fight nonetheless, maybe some handish something like that. 2324 01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:03,200 Speaker 2: Last win for him came against Davis and Figuretto. 2325 01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:05,720 Speaker 5: That was January of twenty twenty three, a night upon 2326 01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:07,360 Speaker 5: which he regained his undisputed title. 2327 01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:09,040 Speaker 2: He's still only thirty years of age. 2328 01:48:09,120 --> 01:48:11,920 Speaker 5: Can flow a lot of people excited to see what 2329 01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:14,120 Speaker 5: a mirale Bosi is made of and he gets a 2330 01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:17,200 Speaker 5: huge main event opportunity against the former champ in front 2331 01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:19,519 Speaker 5: of which should be a ROCKUS Canadian crowd this weekend. 2332 01:48:20,040 --> 01:48:21,559 Speaker 2: Who do you like in the main event? Can flow? 2333 01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:25,600 Speaker 4: Big test, big test for both of these guys. You know, 2334 01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:28,360 Speaker 4: huge fan of Moreno, had a chance to watch him 2335 01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:31,559 Speaker 4: train personally and train with him a little bit, and. 2336 01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:35,879 Speaker 2: You know, he is a really hard worker. 2337 01:48:36,040 --> 01:48:38,280 Speaker 4: But I feel like he's in a tough spot right 2338 01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:40,920 Speaker 4: now because he's kind of in an MMA limbo right 2339 01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:45,200 Speaker 4: now with some of the fights and losses and things 2340 01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:48,680 Speaker 4: that he's experienced, and that could be a tough headspace 2341 01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:52,960 Speaker 4: to be in as a fighter, and for Moreno right now, 2342 01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:55,799 Speaker 4: I think this is also a very tough stylistic matchup. 2343 01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:58,719 Speaker 4: You have a guy who hits extremely hard in all bosi, 2344 01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:01,680 Speaker 4: who also knows how to take you down and control you, 2345 01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:04,679 Speaker 4: and that is that could be just enough to neuter 2346 01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:08,680 Speaker 4: someone like Moreno. And Moreno is a skilled guy. You know, 2347 01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:10,920 Speaker 4: he can finish you with submissions, He can finish you 2348 01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:15,040 Speaker 4: with strikes for sure, but he doesn't possess the same 2349 01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:18,040 Speaker 4: kind of power that Albosi has, and Al Bossi has 2350 01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:20,720 Speaker 4: good positioning to usually stay out of trouble with some 2351 01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:24,519 Speaker 4: of those spots, and All Bossi getting that five round 2352 01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:28,559 Speaker 4: experience against a great fighter like Kaikara front despite the result, 2353 01:49:28,600 --> 01:49:31,000 Speaker 4: and I agree with you, Brian, not sure he pulled 2354 01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:35,360 Speaker 4: it off either. It was super super close, but it 2355 01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:39,200 Speaker 4: gave him experience nonetheless to make the adjustments necessary in 2356 01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:43,120 Speaker 4: big spots like this. And as much of a huge 2357 01:49:43,120 --> 01:49:46,240 Speaker 4: fan of Moreno would love to be surprised in this one. 2358 01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:49,240 Speaker 4: I like All Bosi in this spot, and again this 2359 01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:52,080 Speaker 4: is another underdog pick that I think has value and 2360 01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:53,840 Speaker 4: there's a few of those on this card. 2361 01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:55,960 Speaker 2: Nicely done, Ken Flowan. 2362 01:49:56,160 --> 01:49:59,080 Speaker 5: Every time you use neuter as a verb, it sounds 2363 01:49:59,120 --> 01:50:01,160 Speaker 5: like a swear. I know I've sworn a lot on 2364 01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:03,080 Speaker 5: the program today. I cuss a lot when I'm tired. 2365 01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:04,680 Speaker 5: It kind of is what it is. But when you 2366 01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:08,840 Speaker 5: use neuter, I don't think we've had this conversation the 2367 01:50:08,880 --> 01:50:11,600 Speaker 5: same way like when you use spae, like would he 2368 01:50:11,680 --> 01:50:14,240 Speaker 5: drop a fucking spay on your Brian? Yeah, you know, 2369 01:50:15,439 --> 01:50:19,920 Speaker 5: like is she trying to spay her apart like utralizes 2370 01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:22,840 Speaker 5: a verb too, This motherfucker dropping a neuter on us. 2371 01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:25,679 Speaker 5: All right, let me update the standings if I could. 2372 01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:27,719 Speaker 5: You have C three oh eight till Polia versus Halloway. 2373 01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:29,960 Speaker 5: Team Petrie goes two and one hits on Jeff Neil 2374 01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:32,639 Speaker 5: and shot a bullet. You did give five hundred back 2375 01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:35,360 Speaker 5: on Max Holloway, so plus one eighty two twelve for 2376 01:50:35,400 --> 01:50:37,160 Speaker 5: the week ye're to date, minus forty one. 2377 01:50:37,160 --> 01:50:38,200 Speaker 2: Dollars in change. 2378 01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:40,960 Speaker 5: Team Florian goes four and oh now he did have 2379 01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:43,280 Speaker 5: a momentary lapse in judgment on the show, folks, he 2380 01:50:43,320 --> 01:50:45,759 Speaker 5: had a Holloway hedge in there. He quickly reversed course 2381 01:50:46,680 --> 01:50:48,760 Speaker 5: after the show and he changed that bed and put 2382 01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:50,960 Speaker 5: it on toll Poitia. So you had twelve fifty on 2383 01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:53,840 Speaker 5: to Poitia. He was, though a pretty big favorite. You 2384 01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:56,599 Speaker 5: also had Hamzat Chimaya straight and then you hit your 2385 01:50:56,600 --> 01:50:59,599 Speaker 5: two two hundred and fifty dollars parlays Jeff Neil Magamat 2386 01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:01,519 Speaker 5: ankle I I a to Puti on one and then 2387 01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:03,760 Speaker 5: Neil Chimayev and to Putia on the other. 2388 01:51:04,160 --> 01:51:05,519 Speaker 2: So a big week for ken. 2389 01:51:05,439 --> 01:51:09,360 Speaker 5: Flow plus fourteen forty eleven shaves the year to date, 2390 01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:11,519 Speaker 5: not down to minus two hundred and sixty six dollars 2391 01:51:11,560 --> 01:51:14,719 Speaker 5: and eighty cents. Petries Lead two hundred and twenty five 2392 01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:16,400 Speaker 5: dollars and nineteen cents. 2393 01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:18,439 Speaker 2: We got a ball game, ladies and gentlemen. 2394 01:51:18,520 --> 01:51:20,080 Speaker 4: Let's go all right, place your bets. 2395 01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:23,160 Speaker 5: It is brought to you by john Anna dot com, 2396 01:51:23,160 --> 01:51:26,120 Speaker 5: where you can get fifteen percent off your order with 2397 01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:31,759 Speaker 5: promo code one more Sleep. Just launched today our Madison 2398 01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:34,080 Speaker 5: Square garden design for UFC three h nine. 2399 01:51:34,120 --> 01:51:34,800 Speaker 2: It looks like this. 2400 01:51:35,080 --> 01:51:38,200 Speaker 3: Shut it off, Johnny. That's no. 2401 01:51:39,080 --> 01:51:43,160 Speaker 5: I mean average Joe Romero, average Joe as as they 2402 01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:44,240 Speaker 5: would say in Boston. 2403 01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:45,280 Speaker 2: Outstanding. 2404 01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:48,000 Speaker 5: So you guys have one thousand dollars to spend here 2405 01:51:48,040 --> 01:51:51,000 Speaker 5: and place your bets at UFC Fight Night moreno versus 2406 01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:52,719 Speaker 5: Albazi and Brian Petri. 2407 01:51:52,840 --> 01:51:54,960 Speaker 2: You have the lead and the board and the mic. 2408 01:51:55,040 --> 01:51:55,559 Speaker 4: Take it away. 2409 01:51:56,400 --> 01:52:00,200 Speaker 3: Uh keep it a shortened suite here, Oh Canada. Uh 2410 01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:03,639 Speaker 3: give me five hundred dollars on the Canadian Hope Mike 2411 01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:07,320 Speaker 3: my loot whoa, and then give me five it on 2412 01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:12,759 Speaker 3: aman Zahabby at dot Juicy plus money. That's it. That's it, simple, 2413 01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:13,760 Speaker 3: simple and sweet. 2414 01:52:13,520 --> 01:52:16,280 Speaker 2: Ben Quick and Penless. Yeah, Cancelo, who do you have 2415 01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:16,800 Speaker 2: for us? 2416 01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:22,720 Speaker 4: All right, so give me two hundred on Zahabby, give 2417 01:52:22,760 --> 01:52:27,000 Speaker 4: me two hundred on Lewis, give me one hundred on 2418 01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:31,280 Speaker 4: Nama units spreading it, and give me five hundred on 2419 01:52:31,400 --> 01:52:32,000 Speaker 4: all Bozzi. 2420 01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:37,000 Speaker 2: Nicely Donekenfo spreading around. It happens, it would have happened. 2421 01:52:37,160 --> 01:52:38,920 Speaker 2: I'll see how it goes for you fellas this weekend. 2422 01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:40,680 Speaker 5: And Brian Petrie before we get you on out of here, 2423 01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:42,479 Speaker 5: I believe you have an individual you would like to 2424 01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:44,760 Speaker 5: shout out, So take it away absolutely. 2425 01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:49,200 Speaker 3: Johnny so Gentleman, a local MMA fighter Hunter Fraser Hunter 2426 01:52:49,240 --> 01:52:52,479 Speaker 3: Fraser one on MMA or excuse me on Instagram, reached 2427 01:52:52,520 --> 01:52:53,840 Speaker 3: out to me a huge fan of the show and 2428 01:52:53,840 --> 01:52:56,439 Speaker 3: then became a fan of mine. Where Cincinnati, guys, he's 2429 01:52:56,439 --> 01:52:58,920 Speaker 3: a little up north. He's trained by Roger Bowling, who 2430 01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:00,760 Speaker 3: I used to train with back in the day. You 2431 01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:03,680 Speaker 3: guys called his fight in the UFC. I believe in Indianapolis, 2432 01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:08,320 Speaker 3: Indiana against a able true Heilio is illegal need whatever. 2433 01:53:08,360 --> 01:53:10,880 Speaker 3: I know you and Kenny both were there anyway. He 2434 01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:14,160 Speaker 3: is fighting a second amateur fight this weekend, Saturday, November 2435 01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:16,880 Speaker 3: second at make it rain hoops in Newport, Kentucky. So 2436 01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:19,880 Speaker 3: if you're from northern Kentucky, any Kentucky or Indiana, Cincinnati, 2437 01:53:20,160 --> 01:53:22,080 Speaker 3: come on by. Your boy's gonna be in the house 2438 01:53:22,120 --> 01:53:24,680 Speaker 3: supporting my logo's gonna be on his short It's very 2439 01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:27,439 Speaker 3: siding stuff. Hopefully my guy gets when he's actually fighting 2440 01:53:27,479 --> 01:53:30,439 Speaker 3: a kid from North Carolina, Kenny so oh, he should 2441 01:53:30,439 --> 01:53:31,080 Speaker 3: be a fun show. 2442 01:53:31,320 --> 01:53:34,280 Speaker 5: All right, let's go Hunter, get it done. Get it done, kid, 2443 01:53:34,280 --> 01:53:37,400 Speaker 5: get it done. We'll shout out next week if you win. Yeah, 2444 01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:39,439 Speaker 5: if we win, I really appreciate this before it of course. 2445 01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:42,160 Speaker 5: Brian Petrie on social media at Brian Petrie Mma. We 2446 01:53:42,200 --> 01:53:44,680 Speaker 5: appreciate buddy, have a good weekend. Talk to you next month. 2447 01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:45,639 Speaker 5: HiT's keep on coming. 2448 01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:47,599 Speaker 3: Absolutely, boys, I'll see you ap. 2449 01:53:48,360 --> 01:53:48,720 Speaker 6: All right. 2450 01:53:48,760 --> 01:53:50,960 Speaker 5: That does it for the Place your Bets segment, and 2451 01:53:50,960 --> 01:53:52,240 Speaker 5: we got to get on out of here. Thanks to 2452 01:53:52,280 --> 01:53:54,640 Speaker 5: everybody for indulging us. Live replay will be up on 2453 01:53:54,760 --> 01:53:57,679 Speaker 5: all of the. 2454 01:53:56,600 --> 01:53:58,919 Speaker 2: Right channels and we're back next Monday. 2455 01:53:59,400 --> 01:54:01,559 Speaker 5: We will look at head at Carlos Protest and Neil 2456 01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:03,960 Speaker 5: Magni and probably have more on UFC threeh eight. In 2457 01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:06,880 Speaker 5: the Brilliance of Illia Tolpuria and Kamzachi Mai have Don't 2458 01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:09,080 Speaker 5: forget John ant dot com promo code one More Sleep 2459 01:54:09,240 --> 01:54:11,320 Speaker 5: to get fifteen percent off of that new UFC three 2460 01:54:11,400 --> 01:54:12,200 Speaker 5: oh nine design. 2461 01:54:12,280 --> 01:54:15,200 Speaker 2: Halloween design is out there as well. Ken Flow Wolverine 2462 01:54:15,280 --> 01:54:18,200 Speaker 2: shirt by the way that I wore. Did you see 2463 01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:19,920 Speaker 2: me wearing that, by the way all over my television 2464 01:54:19,960 --> 01:54:20,760 Speaker 2: this week? I did not. 2465 01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:23,400 Speaker 4: Someone told me about it and then I saw it 2466 01:54:23,479 --> 01:54:24,920 Speaker 4: after I wore it. 2467 01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:25,479 Speaker 2: Loud and proud. 2468 01:54:25,560 --> 01:54:28,600 Speaker 5: So if you watch UFC embedded Mike Kenny Florin T 2469 01:54:28,680 --> 01:54:31,960 Speaker 5: shirts all over that what it should all right? Thanks 2470 01:54:31,960 --> 01:54:34,440 Speaker 5: to Paul Felder, Ray Long, Obrian Petrie. Our producer is 2471 01:54:34,480 --> 01:54:36,760 Speaker 5: Cody Merril. Thanks to Jason Anik running the business behind 2472 01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:38,920 Speaker 5: the scenes. We're back next Monday. Don't forget remember the 2473 01:54:38,960 --> 01:54:41,200 Speaker 5: show with the welchrowey champellout, Muhammad and Jay coming up 2474 01:54:41,240 --> 01:54:43,640 Speaker 5: Thursday on the Andcan Floor and podcast YouTube channel with 2475 01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:45,879 Speaker 5: that for Kim Flum, John and thanks for watching for listening. 2476 01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:47,480 Speaker 5: Tell your friends, tell your mom, We'll talk to you 2477 01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:47,880 Speaker 5: next Monday. 2478 01:54:47,920 --> 01:55:06,520 Speaker 2: Until then, you'll he had that among Emath big going on, 2479 01:55:06,760 --> 01:55:07,040 Speaker 2: Bread 2480 01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:09,480 Speaker 6: Gone Bread