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Speaker 1: Comedy Saved Me. I'm Lynn Hoffman and welcome to Comedy

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Speaker 1: Saved Me. I'm so excited you're here. Also want to

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Speaker 1: let you know I host another show called Music Save Me,

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Speaker 1: very similar to Comedy Save Me, but with musicians. But

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Speaker 1: Today is a huge twist of worlds. My guest today

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Speaker 1: has done it all Broadway, network, television, viral, social media,

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Speaker 1: and somehow he's managed to make all of it funnier

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Speaker 1: than it probably ever needed to be. He has starred

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Speaker 1: as the Elder Price in national tour of the Book

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Speaker 1: of Mormon. He had a recurring role on ABC show Schooled,

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Speaker 1: and has also guest starred numerous times on shows like

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Speaker 1: Gray's Anatomy. But what really sets him apart is his

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Speaker 1: incredible gift for creating original music driven comedy. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: said music driven comedy. This is why I'm so excited.

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Speaker 1: From his musical comedy podcast called Musicals that never made

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Speaker 1: it to sold out a real shows in Dynasty Typewriter

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, and if you ever saw his viral

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Speaker 1: music parodies of Britney Spears or the Backstreet Boys Jonas Brothers,

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Speaker 1: you already know this guy is something very special. He

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Speaker 1: just released his first special on Veeps and lucky for

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Speaker 1: us because he's coming up next right here on Comedy

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Speaker 1: Saved Me, the wonderfully funny and absolutely adorable, ridiculously talented

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Speaker 1: Gabe Gibbs. Next, Don't Move Comedy Saved Me. It is

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Speaker 1: the one and only Gabe Gibbs. I'm so happy, welcome

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Speaker 1: to Comedy Saved Me. It's so great to meet you.

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Speaker 2: I'm very happy to be here. I do have to say,

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Speaker 2: listen to the intro. It was lovely to hear. And

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Speaker 2: you have one of the nicest speaking voices in the world.

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Speaker 2: Are you as saying thank you? Are you saying I

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Speaker 2: am not?

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Speaker 1: Although I did do musicals when I was in junior

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Speaker 1: high school, but I do voice work for a living.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well it's very well calculated, very well placed.

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Speaker 2: And hearing your own little accolades, they sound fancier coming

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Speaker 2: out of your mouth. So it was a nice it

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Speaker 2: was a nice little way to start the day.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. What a beautiful compliment I appreciated.

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Speaker 1: My parents used to say that I talked so much

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Speaker 1: that one day I would have to find a way

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Speaker 1: to make money with my mouth.

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Speaker 2: Well here you are, well there I am and You've

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Speaker 2: done it.

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Speaker 1: Well, Gabe. It's so great to have you here. You're

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Speaker 1: just your energy. Just I actually felt it when I

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Speaker 1: watched some of your YouTube videos and your specials and stuff.

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Speaker 1: You really have a way of just really making people

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Speaker 1: feel like you're talking to them.

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Speaker 2: Oh whoa, thank you very much. Yeah, I try to

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Speaker 2: do that. I think coming from like the musical theater

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Speaker 2: kid world, there's a lot of talking at you in

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Speaker 2: the theater world, you know what I mean. It's all

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Speaker 2: very big and very whatever. And so something clicked when

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Speaker 2: I started doing more like comedy comedy. Well I don't

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Speaker 2: do real stand up. I'm like a musical comedian, as

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Speaker 2: we've talked about, but something clicked when I started doing that.

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Speaker 2: My sister came up and she was like, Hey, that

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Speaker 2: actually felt like you. The first time I started doing it.

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Speaker 2: My sister was like, feels like you're actually talking to me.

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Speaker 2: Do more of that.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Oh so I just hit it right on the head.

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Speaker 2: You totally did.

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Speaker 1: Now, when you grew up with your sister in Detroit

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Speaker 1: the son of a pastor? Is that great?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So when did you first realize that making people

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Speaker 1: laugh was something that you needed to do, not something

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Speaker 2: That's a really good question because those are two different things.

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Speaker 2: I think because my sister and I were very similar

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Speaker 2: And so I was kind of like juggling a love

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Speaker 2: And so then it was like years of trying to

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Speaker 2: feel it like in the last few years, I've started

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And most people looking in from the outside into

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Speaker 1: so successful, You've already made it to network television, and

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Speaker 2: I feel that way, yeah, because I think, like actor Gabe,

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Speaker 2: the actor version of me is like servicing other people's things,

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Speaker 2: which I really enjoy doing. I really love acting, and

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Speaker 2: there's like a lot of fun in that. But you're

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Speaker 2: there to like help get the story from A to Z,

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot of fun now for me to

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Speaker 2: it's starting at zero, and like how do I what

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Speaker 2: sort of take do I get to have? And that

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Speaker 2: I think has happened in the last the last five

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but maybe we put

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Speaker 2: this weird Broadway kid in like comedy settings and he's

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Speaker 2: and what do I what do I do? And so

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Speaker 2: trying to get these two worlds to overlap and do

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Speaker 2: the middle of that vent hiagram. And that's been happening

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Speaker 2: in the last few years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that is completely horrifying to me to think

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Speaker 1: about what you just said. I mean it is. It's

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Speaker 2: And totally totally and it's your writing.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, you're servicing another client. You know, a

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Speaker 2: Totally totally. It feels very It definitely does feel scary.

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Speaker 2: I describe it as, uh, there's no like when I

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Speaker 2: it's mostly just a lot of drowning. You're just going

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Speaker 2: to do a lot of drowning. And then all of

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Speaker 2: your first like, oh okay, there's something here. No longer

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Speaker 2: just drowning. Maybe now I can tread water. Okay, great.

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Speaker 2: But it's like it does it is like a scary

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Speaker 2: like you know, people talk about like, you know, taking

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Speaker 2: don't talk about that after you take the plunge, you

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Speaker 2: still have to keep drowning for a few years to

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know a version other than

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Speaker 2: that that it is. You know, there's no version that's

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Speaker 2: it out. I mean, unless you have a version that's

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Speaker 2: like you have an idea and it goes perfectly, then

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Speaker 2: please tell me Lynn, Oh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was my whole life. It was just perfect.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, every new idea you had, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just amazing. I've never made the choice

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Speaker 1: that because I was so scared of drowning that I

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Speaker 1: never I didn't even want to do a show. I

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Speaker 1: He called when I was doing traffic reports. That's how

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Speaker 1: I can't. I can't do that by myself. I'm putting

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, I get that. I get that feeling. I

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Speaker 2: do think there's a lot of That's the thing that

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to I think people like us have to

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Speaker 2: actually scared of this because it's a bad idea and

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Speaker 2: because it's going to put me, you know, in danger?

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Speaker 2: Or Am I scared of this because it's new? And

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Speaker 2: I probably could, but I don't. I haven't gone from

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Speaker 1: Just say yes to everything, you know, looking back, giving

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Speaker 1: my old self advice, I would say, just I should

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Speaker 1: still scary, even though you've had all of these winds

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Speaker 2: Totally. I think about it right now as like, even

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Speaker 2: though I'm a theater kid, I'll use a baseball metaphor.

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Speaker 2: I think about it now as batting average, where they don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't have to like kill it every time. I

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Speaker 2: don't have to, like, you know, every decision doesn't have

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Speaker 2: to go perfectly in the way that I thought it would.

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Speaker 2: But is my batting average generally the then we're doing well.

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Speaker 2: Because you only see the home runs from all the

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Speaker 2: then I can just keep going in that.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's such a great man. I love that.

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Speaker 1: That is so true. I kind of know, well, I

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Speaker 1: got one question for you, but first when did I

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Speaker 1: want to get into what you're doing now? But I

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Speaker 1: also have a couple of questions from before. Was there

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Speaker 1: a specific moment in your life when comedy genuinely saved you,

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Speaker 2: I think for me it was like such a wonder

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Speaker 2: It's always been a wonderful shield of like how to

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Speaker 2: wasn't like I was like athletic ish, I was like

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Speaker 2: smart ish. I was like I was definitely like odd

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Speaker 2: sack ish. Yeah, like I like, but I found that

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about that. Musicals that never made It is

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Speaker 1: It's awesome, Gabe. I mean, do you have an amount

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Speaker 2: of a lot of people who know what they're gonna get, because, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: especially in like the comedy settings that I'm in, like

436
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,719
Speaker 2: on on the road as comedian, Gabe, I'm I'm performing

437
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 2: in like performing arts centers and like comedy venues. So

438
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 2: the people showing up to those are not expecting stand

439
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 2: up from me, which is good because if you expect

440
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 2: stand up for me, and then this this boy goes

441
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 2: and sits at a keyboard, it's a whole it's a

442
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 2: whole different vibe. So I have had those moments obviously.

443
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 2: You know, I end up on a lot of stand

444
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 2: up shows as the musical comedian, and there's always a

445
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 2: keyboard I have to set up early, so all the

446
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 2: comedians are doing their stuff and there's just a keyboard

447
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 2: sitting there and everyone's like, when are we going to

448
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 2: get this keyboard guy? Who's he about to be?

449
00:23:59,160 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 3: You know?

450
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And then you just totally take them

451
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: off guard, which is just awesome. It's just so cool.

452
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Speaker 3: We'll be right back with more of the Comedy Saved

453
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Speaker 3: Me podcast. Welcome back to the Comedy Saved Me Podcast.

454
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Speaker 2: You said Boston, You said, Buzz offered you a job

455
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 2: in Boston. Are you from Boston? Boston?

456
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am.

457
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: She's My wife's from Canton, like South Canton. I'm from Newton,

458
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 2: no way, Newton.

459
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh my god, we're like so close. Like my

460
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: one of my oldest dearest friends is from Campon. I

461
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: my ex boyfriend used to have a baseball card shop

462
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: there on Main Street, and I'd go down.

463
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 2: There way yeah, yeah, crazy.

464
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 1: I was just in Canton.

465
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 2: I went to uh oh no, what's her favorite? What's

466
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 2: your favorite pizza? Place townspop pizza. Does that mean anything?

467
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 2: Shut it away?

468
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: My friend, my friend Sean, who lived in Canton, grew there.

469
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 1: He moved to LA and he craved the town spot pizza.

470
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: So we found we we sent them. We shipped him

471
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: par cooked pizzas from there to LA and he was

472
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: able to cook him off in the stove.

473
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, wait, that's crazy. I didn't know. I

474
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 2: should probably do that for my wife. Huh. I feel

475
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: like that would be so cute.

476
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: That would win you major brownie points.

477
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 2: Oh oh, we're always seeking brownie points as goofy as

478
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 2: goofy little husbands, were always seeking brownie points. It's okay, Wait,

479
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 2: that's crazy.

480
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 1: I hope they're still open. I think they are. I

481
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: hope they I.

482
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 2: Think they are too. I don't know. I do feel

483
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 2: like we would have a word would have spread.

484
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: The alarm would have gone out like the last pizza.

485
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, we're getting a little off topic here

486
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: and I want to get back on the road though,

487
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: But that is shocking to me. We have to talk

488
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: after this. You wrote the book Music and Lyrics for

489
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: Silly Songs and Sad Songs.

490
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: Yes, that's quite a solo.

491
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: Mountain to climb what was the most terrifying process of

492
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: part of that process, because I mean, you really like

493
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: to scare yourself.

494
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, silly songs, silly song, sad Songs is like the

495
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: early version of what turned into My special that's out now.

496
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: So it was like it was originally called silly song

497
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: Sad Songs, and wrote that whole show, and that was

498
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 2: like I started that before. Honestly, I just like was

499
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 2: writing songs and didn't know where they lived because what

500
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 2: is now. Of course, it's easy to like draw the

501
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 2: path now that I've seen how that project netted out,

502
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 2: But at the time, I was like, I have these dumb, dumb,

503
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 2: dumb songs, and I have these kind of serious songs

504
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 2: that are popping up, and I don't know what to

505
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 2: do with them. So my director friend, who like directed

506
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 2: all the versions of that show, which then turned into

507
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 2: this special pick a Lane, he was like, just call

508
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 2: it silly songs sad songs, and let's just do like

509
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 2: a version in somebody's living room where you just like

510
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: see what it feels like to play silly songs and

511
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: sad songs in the same show. And so the writing

512
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 2: of that whole project was like it was kind of

513
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 2: an accident. I just had this like folder of like

514
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what these are, you know what I mean,

515
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 2: Like I keep making these things and they keep getting

516
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 2: dumped into this bucket, but I don't even know what

517
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 2: the bucket is. And then it was just a friend

518
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 2: who was like, what if that's just what it is?

519
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 2: Just just do what you have, put it in front

520
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 2: of us and see how it feels. That's kind of

521
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 2: the only way, certainly in a comedy world, but in

522
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 2: most creative worlds, is just to kind of have to

523
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 2: show it to see even what you have, because you

524
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,479
Speaker 2: think you know what is funny, or you think you

525
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 2: know what is landing or what's going to land. And like,

526
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 2: I feel like even the pros, like the old pros

527
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: who've been at it for decades, they're still like the

528
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: one truth of comedy is like you don't actually know.

529
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 2: The audience knows, and you and even they don't know,

530
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: and you don't know until you get it in the

531
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 2: same room together and in my case, play the song

532
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 2: out loud and say the bits out loud. But that

533
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: one was like, Yeah, it took a friend being like

534
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: I think you already have it you're just scared of it.

535
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: Just do it well, the fact that you listen, Because

536
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: I have some tremendously talented friends who are so uber

537
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: talented they have no idea, but they get in their

538
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: own way. I'm sure you know people like it. They're

539
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: so talented, they're so scared their fear gets in the

540
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: way of their success. If we could just get that

541
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: out of the way. And you know, I keep thinking

542
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: that all of my talented friends who do this, Yeah,

543
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: they shelve all of this stuff and as long as

544
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: it's evergreen, one day maybe they'll get out of their

545
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: way and the world will be able to they'll be

546
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: able to share it. But truly, you have to admit

547
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: putting that stuff out there, Gabe. It's like it's like

548
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: birthing a child, which you just recently went to. Well,

549
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: your wife went here. Hardart imagine like, here's my kid.

550
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: Now everybody judge my kid, and I have nothing to

551
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: I can't. I have no recourse totally.

552
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: I think. I think what's helped, what's helped me is

553
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: working on things with a director and with friends who

554
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 2: are in the community. To me, it feels a little

555
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: I try really hard to get it to a place

556
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: where it doesn't feel like, here's my thing? Am I

557
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 2: good enough? Try to get it to a place of

558
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 2: like we're all looking at the easel together. I'm the

559
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 2: one who made the first brushstrokes, but we're all looking

560
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: at it over here in a separate space like I'm

561
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: just the one who got it on its feet, and

562
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: let's all look at it together and decide, ooh, that

563
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: doesn't actually look great there? That doesn't do that? Do

564
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: you have something you want to add? Do you want

565
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: to put some like stickers over here or whatever? Like

566
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: as opposed to because I literally can't move forward if

567
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 2: it is like here's me and my and my art

568
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 2: and my home, all the stuff I worked on. I

569
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 2: have to get myself in the headspace of hey, everybody,

570
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 2: let's all look at this little thing to get there

571
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: and see how we feel, you know.

572
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: Like an observer.

573
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: You're an observer.

574
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: You created it, but you're also an observer, which is

575
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: it's a lovely thing that you're able to do.

576
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: That not every day, not every day, not every time.

577
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: No, it's it's hard. It's I give you a lot

578
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: of credit and no, and sharing your story right now,

579
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: not just your art with all of the shows that

580
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: you have in the books and stuff, but just doing

581
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: shows like this and sharing the inside of yourself, Yeah,

582
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: it's it's tremendously selfless, and but it helps so much.

583
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: And it also probably is something that you want to

584
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: do because the way that you're describing your life, it's

585
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: like you're not You're not doing this to be some famous.

586
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, you just have to get it out.

587
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: I gotta get it out. I gotta get it out.

588
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: I gotta get it out. And it's like, yeah, and

589
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: because you can. Everybody can smell it when you're trying

590
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: to be Yes, when you're trying to be a big

591
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: a big wig, Yes, everyone can smell it. Some people

592
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: can pull that off, though. There are some people that

593
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: you can smell that like, oh it's a funny smell. Yeah, yeah,

594
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: something's up. But I actually like this guy somehow. Anyway,

595
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 2: I don't think I have that. I think I have

596
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: to make sure I maintain the spiritual practice of I'm here,

597
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: let's do this together, because you.

598
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: Know, there is something so much about that though, being

599
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: being in a team and that I think maybe that's

600
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: why I never took that job, is because I, you know,

601
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: from buzz all those years ago, because I always wanted

602
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: to work with a team of creative people, even if

603
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: I had a good idea. But brainstorming was so much

604
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: fun because nothing was ever wrong. You stick everything on

605
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: the wall and whatever stays you go with. No one's

606
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: offended that they didn't like your thing totally. But we're

607
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: speaking of all these projects that you have to get out.

608
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: You have a holiday show with Alden Dirk ye, you

609
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: sold out Dynasty Typewriter. What what does that co creation

610
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: look like for you? How do you two comics and

611
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: your voices become one show.

612
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 2: I'm interesting that one. We have similar tastes, so it's

613
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 2: like fun. We set out to write, like what is

614
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: a really campy silly like if Rocky Horror was a

615
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,479
Speaker 2: Christmas special, what's the crazy musical that we would write together?

616
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: And he and I both have a lot of the

617
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: same sort of like touch points in taste, and so

618
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: that makes it makes it easy for both of us.

619
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: But I really like writing with a friend because I

620
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: feel like you're just trying to make each other laugh, yeah,

621
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 2: as opposed to like what's a good idea? You know,

622
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: like when you're sitting a little you're like, come on, brain,

623
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: you know. But when someone says something, and especially because

624
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: I'm wired like I'm an extrovert, so I'm wired to

625
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: like want to make people laugh. So we have an

626
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: idea and I'm just in there trying to make all

627
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: in laugh and we're writing down what we're saying, and

628
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: of course it you know, you don't use most of it,

629
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: but there's stuff in that that it doesn't feel like

630
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: digging in the trenches to get an idea out. It's

631
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: like the process feels a lot more teamworky and just

632
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: kind of shooting the shit, which is like way way

633
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: more fun and I think a better result at the end,

634
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: because you also end up having to agree to things

635
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 2: that you wouldn't have written and then watch how they

636
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: do well, and it stretches you to be like, oh,

637
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: I would not have done that or thought that would

638
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: have worked, but I saw it from the beginning and

639
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 2: I'm seeing it work, and like it just allows you

640
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: to release a little more, I think when you're working

641
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: with other other people, because I've been wrong a lot, Hey, but.

642
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: That's the price of tuition. Though mistakes are always the

643
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: price of tuition, so they're never really.

644
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 2: Bad, No, all learning for sure.

645
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: Even when you have egg on your face in front

646
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: of an audience. But that's for another time. Britney spears

647
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: Backstreet Boys, Jonas Brothers. The music is blue up Online.

648
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: They're hysterical. Do you write those things thinking this is

649
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: going to hit? Or does the virality always surprise you

650
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: when you put them out? They are hilarious?

651
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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.

652
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

653
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: I now I'm at a place with those where I

654
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: think I've done almost like a hundred of those, and

655
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 2: now I'm at a place where I'm just trying to

656
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 2: keep making them because I enjoy them and because people

657
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: enjoy them.

658
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: Who's next on the on the plate that you want

659
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: to do?

660
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: Like a pint a pit Bull one? I haven't done.

661
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: I might have done a pit Bull I was just

662
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: laying in bed thing because I'll be in Miami soon.

663
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 2: I'll be in Miami soon for a tour date, and

664
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 2: I'm like, do I have a pit Bull one? I

665
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: gotta do the pit Bull one in Miami. But anyway, yeah,

666
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: I think Pipple's on the list. Yeah. Those I just

667
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 2: like doing them because I like taking ridiculous lyrics from

668
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 2: pop songs or rap songs and going, Okay, what context

669
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: in the world of musical theater. Could we put this

670
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: language in that it would somehow still make sense to me?

671
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 2: Those feel like doing like a Sudoku puzzle in front

672
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 2: of in front of people online where I'm like, hey,

673
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: today's today's challenge is pitbull pless some weird like dear

674
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 2: Evan Hanson song in my brain, like how do we

675
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 2: combine the two and can we find the connective tissue

676
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 2: that makes it work? And it might not at all?

677
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: You know, it's amazing what a skill that is. Honestly,

678
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: imagine doing that every day. I think about people who

679
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: have to write comedy every day, and like you said,

680
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: not every show from doing morning radio, I know, not

681
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: every show is going to be a winner show, but

682
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: you just show up every day and do the job,

683
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: and you do end up having those nuggets that just

684
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,919
Speaker 1: stand out. But all of those song parodies and things

685
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: that you do, I wouldn't call them song parodies though I.

686
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 2: Know they're like I don't know what to call them.

687
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what to call them either, because because

688
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: in a way they're like they're sort of covers but

689
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 2: not covers, and yeah, I don't know what. I don't

690
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: know what they are there're scenes with song, scenes inspired

691
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 2: by song.

692
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: I love that.

693
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 2: That's great.

694
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: If I come up with another one, I'll call you

695
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: back another title for it, because there's something to that

696
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: you have. You have a musical comedy series in development

697
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: for Kids and Family for Kids and Family Network. I

698
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: don't know if you can talk about which one it is,

699
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: but makes cond of sense because you just had a

700
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: kid yourself, So what drew you to this space? Thinking

701
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: maybe that, yeah, this is writing for kids easier or

702
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: harder than writing for adults.

703
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 2: I think it's definitely in my experience, which is quite

704
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: limited because we're still just like shaping the thing, it's

705
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 2: harder because I care about it more. I think with

706
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 2: adults you have a lot more yeah, freedom and wiggle

707
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 2: room to just be like, hey, well we're having fun whatever.

708
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

709
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: I think with like, I actually do get a little

710
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: paralyzed in the kids' space because I'm like, I care

711
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: a lot about making sure that we're being thoughtful with

712
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: like what we're what we're doing, ultimately, what we're saying,

713
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 2: even though not necessarily even like moral of the story,

714
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: but just like what vibe are we putting out? Like

715
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 2: what are we signaling to kids. I just think, like

716
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 2: I'm a huge mister Rogers fan, and I think it's like,

717
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 2: oh my god, just the best. I think like his

718
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: I mean talk about a guy who like his work

719
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 2: was his ministry, Like that is sort of my north

720
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 2: star of like people who have like chosen to entertain

721
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: but also to really take care to be honest, I

722
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: get I get really trapped and like anxious about the

723
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: kid's face because I care a lot about it and

724
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 2: I don't think it should be done flippantly. Like I guess,

725
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: especially depending on age, Like you know, teens tweens, you

726
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: can you can have a little more fun and a

727
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: little more fart joke or whatever. But like, depending on

728
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 2: what age you're at, I'm like, this has more of

729
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: a responsibility to it than other things do. As you

730
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: can hear in my in my general vibe, I'm constantly

731
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 2: fighting how much I care, leading towards self importance. I'm

732
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: constantly clawing my way away from like, well, I care

733
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: so much so it has to be you know, no.

734
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: But you're not coming off that way. It makes sense.

735
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it maybe scares you a little bit totally, uh,

736
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: And it seems as though that's what your mo is like,

737
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 1: you just do everything that scares you and and it works.

738
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: So what are you worried about? I mean, do you

739
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: get at least to try comedy on your one year

740
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: old and see if it works? Or is it too young?

741
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: I'm getting some good what am I getting some good

742
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: laughs from? Oh? Today, I did like a like a

743
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 2: choscha dance move that was a big hit. So there's

744
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 2: a lot of physical comedy that's working really well. Right now,

745
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: I'm sort of scooping her up and chewing on her

746
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 2: belly and that's getting a giggle. I'm not sure how

747
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 2: that translates to my live shows.

748
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that wouldn't be good, I don't think. But he

749
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: just grabbed a baby from the audience and.

750
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, or a grown adult. Maybe we can have

751
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 2: people sign waivers because it really seems to be working

752
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 2: with my daughter.

753
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 1: That's so special.

754
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.

755
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: But I love that you're tackling something new like that

756
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 1: for kids.

757
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 2: And good luck with that, Thank you very much. What's

758
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 2: it going to be called? En right now? It's called

759
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: Nana's Super Radio. It's a show about these kids who

760
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: go to their go to their grandma's house and they

761
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 2: think she's boring, but they find out that she's been

762
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: time traveling through the power of a radio that sets

763
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,959
Speaker 2: her to different eras, and every era has new music

764
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 2: because if it's me, I have to be writing music

765
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 2: for it. So we'll see, we'll see what shape it takes.

766
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 2: But that's exciting. One's been fun to that, one's been

767
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 2: fun to work on.

768
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I mean. What else do you have

769
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: going on that everyone needs to know about before I

770
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: let you go, because you have your hand in so

771
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: many different projects.

772
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think well the special, which you've done a

773
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 2: very great job of pushing people to thank you. It's

774
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 2: it's live, it's on veeps. It's also on my YouTube

775
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: if people want to see it. That's usually an easier

776
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 2: way to find it. That I'm I'm touring a little

777
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: bit right now. I'm on hold for maybe another network

778
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 2: TV gig that we we're waiting any day to hear about.

779
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: We shot the pilot of it, and we'll and we'll

780
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 2: find out.

781
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: Who knows, this isn't a recurring role, This is you

782
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: actually selling something to a network.

783
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 2: No, this would be a recurring role. Actor Gabe Will

784
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 2: have gotten a.

785
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's yeah, you'll do that too.

786
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: I'd love to. I'd love to always working on working

787
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 2: on one hundred and fifty thousand things at once, because

788
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: as you know, uh, that's the only way to keep

789
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: things going is to keep trying and keep doing all

790
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 2: kinds of things. And you know, there's no there's no

791
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: such thing as doing one thing anymore. You got to

792
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 2: you gotta have all kinds of irons and all kinds

793
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 2: of fires. So that was my very big, long answer

794
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: to say. Mostly right now, it's a special I just

795
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 2: put out. I did just put out an album a

796
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago that's just like a half on songs. Yeah, Yeah,

797
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: what's that called. It's called Mommy Mommy, And it's a

798
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 2: bunch of ridiculous songs that I wrote with a really

799
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: wonderful music producer friend of mine who's uh, he's a

800
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 2: he's a genius, and I got to taint his genius

801
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 2: with my ridiculous songs. So that was a fun experience.

802
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: Something tells me he didn't mind being tinted. But can

803
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: can we give him a shout out so that he's not.

804
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: Just ARESA A R I z A is his artist name?

805
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 2: Awesome and he's like a total, total savant, you know,

806
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 2: one of those Berkeley College of Music kids who's like,

807
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: can play every instrument and you know, write everything. And

808
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 2: I'm like, what if we write a song about me

809
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 2: being in love with a beta fish? And what if

810
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 2: it's a romantic R and B song. He's like, yeah,

811
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 2: no problem, starts trending, you know, like it's amazing. He's amazing.

812
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: That's awesome.

813
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

814
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: Can I ask you one last question, Gabe, because you're

815
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: so generous with your time. I believe we only were

816
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: going to have a half hour, and I've completely monopolized

817
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 1: your time.

818
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: I'm good.

819
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: What song or album, comedian or moment of comedy that

820
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: genuinely you go back to when you need to be

821
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 1: reminded why any of this matters in life.

822
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 2: There's an old Jamie Fox bit that he used to

823
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 2: do where he sings the Brady Bunch theme song but

824
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: he makes it sexy. Have you seen this?

825
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: Was it when he was in Living Color?

826
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 2: Or is it during this So it was in one

827
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 2: of his stand up specials. I forget which one back

828
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 2: when he was like it was like him doing something

829
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 2: live in some venue and it's him talking about how

830
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: he wasn't allowed to like listen to secular music because

831
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: he grew up in a religious household. You're seeing the parallel, yeah,

832
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: he said. So the whole bit is like when girls

833
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: came over, I didn't have like I could play piano

834
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: and I could sing, but I didn't have like cool

835
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 2: sexy songs to sing to them. So I had to

836
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 2: take unsexy songs and try to make him as cool

837
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 2: as I could. And he does a whole like bit

838
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 2: of him singing and playing the Brady Bunch theme song

839
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: as if it's like the most romantic song you've ever heard,

840
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: and it's so funny and it's so skillful, and it's

841
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: so just like talent. That dude is just dripping in talent.

842
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: And it's like I saw that and was like, oh,

843
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 2: you can do anything, because I think, you know, when

844
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: we say comedy, at least for me, I think stand up,

845
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: and that's the shape of it. But like when you

846
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 2: really zoom out, you're like, oh, we have like Zach

847
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 2: gallifanekis used to be a musical comedian, like early Sarah

848
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 2: Silverman was music like Steve Martin, Tenacious D, like Flight

849
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: of the Concords, like all these people. I'm like, Oh,

850
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: this thing that I've been wanting to do and feeling

851
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: like I could do. I'm not the first person to

852
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 2: do it. It's like a well tread path. And seeing

853
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 2: that Jamie Fox video, it's like one of my early

854
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: like YouTube video saves from when I was like seventeen

855
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 2: or eighteen. I was like, no way, you can do this,

856
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: and people will like actually choose to watch it. It's amazing.

857
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: I can see it already. I can see the duet coming.

858
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: Jamie Fox Gabe Gibbs. Oh please, that would be amazing.

859
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: I love it.

860
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: If it happens, you have to call me.

861
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: I totally will. Well, yeah, we'll have some tea, spat

862
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 2: pizza and well and we'll shout out Jamy Fox shout out.

863
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: I love that so much. Oh my god, Gabe Gibbs,

864
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: it's been such a pleasure talking with you, getting to

865
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: know you. You are exactly like you are when you

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Speaker 1: watch Gabe on YouTube or television. That is who this

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Speaker 1: person is. I mean, you really are the most the

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Speaker 1: genuine article, and you're so happy and obviously you're in

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Speaker 1: your element and doing what you're doing, and you do

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Speaker 1: it so well. So thank you for coming on and

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Speaker 1: talking with us and sharing your thoughts and wisdom and

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Speaker 1: hopefully we've inspired somebody to do something, because it's obvious

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Speaker 1: you're a perfect example, and I suspect another reason why

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Speaker 1: Maybe came on the show was to talk about that.

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Speaker 2: So thank you for a love it and will thank

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Speaker 2: you for grabbing me a lot of fun.

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Speaker 4: I'm buzz night, and thanks for listening to comedy Save

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