1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome and everybody to the Clay Travis 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show on this Thursday, May twelve. Appreciate 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: you hanging with us. A lot to discuss. We got 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: whistleblowers reveal the FBI labeled dozens of investigations into parents 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: with a threat tag created by the FBI's Counter Terrorism Division. 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: Dive into that in a little bit. Got a governor 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: young kid of Virginia saying that the Attorney General should 9 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: enforce the law when it comes to stopping these protests 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: that are meant to intimidate Supreme Court justices at their homes. 11 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: Law is pretty clear, and the Governor of Virginia agrees. 12 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: Some are saying that the Governor Virginia should use the 13 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: misdemeanor state law that is also at play here, but 14 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: the federal law has more teeth and more serious penalties 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: attached to it. We've also got a whole bunch of 16 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: fantastic guests joining us. Our friend Katie Pavlich in just 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: a or of minutes, your Bottom of the Hour town 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: Hall editor, Fox News contributor got a pace on moving 19 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: baby formula the federal government moving baby formula to the 20 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: southern border for illegal Migraines entering into the country. I 21 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: don't know if they're moving baby formula to anybody else 22 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: though right now, I haven't seen anything about that. We've 23 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: also got our friend Rob Smith, he's in Rock war Vett, 24 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: political analyst and a podcast host, joining us a second hour. 25 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: Kennedy of Kennedy on Fox Business. She'll be with us 26 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: in the third hour. So we got a lot to 27 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: talk about, but I wanted to dive right now Clay 28 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 1: into It's it's fun to ask people when you're visiting 29 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: a place, as I'm going to Chicago, and I think 30 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 1: it's funny to for people to hear I mean, I've 31 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: been I've been to Thailand, I've been to Bangkok, I've 32 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: been to Buenos Ares, never been to Chicago, and this 33 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: is crazy. Like so I just finally woke up one 34 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: day I was like, I'm going to America's third largest city. 35 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: It's just I had never set foot in the place 36 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: I've always wanted to go. Actually have some friends from 37 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: New York that have moved there permanently and love it. 38 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: It's one of those rare places where New Yorkers sometimes 39 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: will say that, you know, they've found their their forever 40 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: home and h and they like it better some of 41 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: them sometimes. And I asked everybody, as you know, and 42 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:16,839 Speaker 1: I got all these great recommendations. And now I've even 43 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 1: got the official social media accounts of different restaurants and things. 44 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: Time to go check it out. So it's fun to 45 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: have the reach that we do play on this show. 46 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: But there are also a whole lot of people who 47 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: are writing make sure you bring a bulletproof vest, make 48 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: sure you go armed, watch out, keep your head on 49 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: a swivel. And I'm sitting here, first of all, I'm 50 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: from New York City. Okay, it's not it's I'm not 51 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: coming from h you know, eastern Montana where there hasn't 52 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: been a homicide in twenty years or something like this 53 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: is this is a I'm a guy who worked for 54 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: the NYPD. I'll be all right, but it is. It 55 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: is frustrating because the crime situation in the country right 56 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 1: now in major cities is bad. It has gotten a 57 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: lot worse, and we should look at why, and we 58 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: should look at why going into this midterm election before 59 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: we dive into what do you what do you think 60 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: the primary reason is why do Why am I being 61 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: told that I need to go armed? I need to 62 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: go strapped into Chicago? Nine hundred shootings plus actually it's 63 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: a little over nine hundred shootings, over a hundred of 64 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: those dead. It's not even halfway into the year. The 65 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: city only has two and a half million people. And 66 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: this is playing out in different ways in New York 67 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: and Phoenix, in la in Portland, and you know, name 68 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: a city in Atlantic, all over the place. Miami actually 69 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: does not have a huge increase in homicides the last 70 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: couple of years. Something else that I looked up recently, Clay, 71 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: we got to fix this. So how does the country 72 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: fix this? What we need to do? It's it's a 73 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: good question. And I was looking reading the Wall Street 74 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: Journal yesterday, and for gun murders, we hit a high 75 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: that went all the way back to nineteen ninety four 76 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,559 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. And if you look at the graphics 77 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: of annual deaths by homicide per hundred thousand people, it's 78 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: skyrocketed in twenty twenty, and the numbers have gone up 79 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: pretty substantially since twenty sixteen. What happened? BLM, all right? 80 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: I mean this is the truth, and it's it's an 81 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: inconvenient truth that a lot of left wingers don't want 82 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: to acknowledge that lots of people who consider themselves quote 83 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: unquote mainstream journalists that aren't allied with either position, Buck, 84 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: the data does not lie with the rise of the 85 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: BM movement. Thousands of otherwise would be still alive today. 86 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: Black people who were to a large extent being protected 87 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: by police officers who are white, Black, Asian and Hispanic 88 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: have been kept from doing their job. And the murder 89 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: rate and the shooting rate has skyrocketed. And you can't 90 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: argue against this anymore, right, What did they say for 91 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: a long time, Oh, it's because of the pandemic. But 92 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: when you actually looked at the data in twenty twenty, 93 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: the COVID numbers were way down because people were staying 94 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: home in March, in April and May. These murder rates 95 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: skyrocketed starting with the George Floyd protests, and they have 96 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: continued to skyrocket all over the country, new records unfortunately 97 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: being set for murders in many different communities, lots of 98 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: cities where people are listening to us right now, Buck, 99 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: and they still try to argue a variety of different things. 100 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: I saw somebody the other day say, well, this is 101 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: one of the costs of inflation. It's like, one of 102 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: the cost of inflation is a rising murder rate. I 103 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: don't know that I buy into this at all. And 104 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: they're looking for any possible explanation other than the one 105 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: that is staring us right in the face, which is 106 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: when you demonize police officers, people pay with their lives 107 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: who would otherwise have been protected by those police officer. 108 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: And there's a part of me that just feels frustration. 109 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: And you know, we're Americans. We have pride in our 110 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: in our country and in our major cities, and it's 111 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: it's sad to me when I'm when I'm going to 112 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: a major city. I know we've got Chicagoans. We're listening now, 113 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: And I understand some of this is people just being 114 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: a little provocative, but the Chicago does have a reputation 115 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: now because of all the shootings that are happening there, 116 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: and the Democrat who runs the city, the mayor, Lawry Lightfoot, 117 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: and the Democrats who run all these other cities are failing. 118 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: And the corporations that spent millions and millions over one 119 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars bending the knee and begging forgiveness of 120 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,679 Speaker 1: the BLM movement should know that their money did It's 121 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: not only that they did not help. That the BLM 122 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: movement failed to help. The BLM movement made things worse, 123 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: and and that has to we have to have. I 124 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: know they don't want to have this argument that I 125 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: wanted this debate, but Clay, instead of us just relying 126 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: on the narrative, I can turn learned to or rather 127 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: a battle of narratives. I can turn to this excellent 128 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: we like we gotta get Barry Weiss on the show's 129 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: fantastic work on her substack. She has a guest writer 130 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: she often does, Zach Kriegman. I criticized BLM. This is 131 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: Zach Kriegman's piece. I criticized BLM. Then I was fired, 132 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: and as I was reading this, this is one of 133 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: the reasons I sent it to you. This guy Clay 134 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: is the Reuters chief data scientists. Now Reuters, it provides 135 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: the news feed that a lot of other news organizations 136 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: rely on as their news ticker. And so the narrative 137 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: power of Reuters and the Associated Press even exceeds what 138 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: you may have from some of the better known, you know, 139 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: the the other media entities out there, right, Yes, but 140 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: I was thinking about you because this guy, he's not 141 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: one of us in terms of his Ideologi's not a conservative. 142 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: But he's looking at the numbers and he's looking at 143 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: what BLM is saying is happening and what is really happening, 144 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: and he crunched all the data, and I just to 145 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: to cut to the chase here. You've already found out 146 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: that in a use of force situation where there could 147 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: be any discussion about a police officer using lethal force, 148 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 1: white Americans were more likely to be shot than black 149 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: Americans in similar situations and circumstances. His data findings aligned 150 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: almost exactly with Professor Fryer at Harvard. You've brought this 151 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: study up before, who also found that white Americans in 152 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: a use of force situation with police are more likely 153 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: to be shot. Now we could discuss why that is 154 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: in perception, Clay, what do you think happens when he 155 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: puts that finding on the internal chat board of Reuters. 156 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: It's not acceptable because it conflicts with the narrative. Let's 157 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: start there, and there are going to be oftentimes there's 158 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: lots of people listening to us who would think about 159 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: this inside of their company. Even when you're sharing raw data, 160 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: even when you are just sharing what the data shows, 161 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: you are in danger of being called racist, right, and 162 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: most people are fearful of doing this. I've said it before, Bucket, 163 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: but bears repeating. Over half of all murders in America 164 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: are committed by black men. Black men represent around six 165 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: or seven percent of the United States population. So you 166 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: are talking. This is facts, It's not racism. Is direct 167 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: factual evidence. Over half of all murders are committed by 168 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: around six or seven percent of the population, even smaller 169 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: than that, honestly, because most murders are committed by men. 170 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 1: And we sometimes have fun with this data. Right in 171 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: terms of sex because if you were to say, oh, 172 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: the police are overwhelmingly sexist because they only arrest men 173 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: by and large four violent crimes. Why aren't women being 174 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: arrested in proportion to their population, Well, people would say, well, 175 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: men are more violent, so police are having to interact 176 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: with them more. So you tried to make a sexism 177 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: argument there, people laugh at you. Why can't you look 178 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: at the raw data and say, police buy and large 179 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: are responding to violent criminals. A eighty eight year old 180 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: Hispanic woman is probably not going to end up in 181 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: a violent interaction with a police officer. A sixteen year 182 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: old white kid might, right, because age and sex factor 183 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: into a large degree in terms of the overall criminal population. 184 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: But you can't talk about that in some of these corporations. 185 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: So tell us what happened to this guy who looked 186 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: at the numbers shared the factual data inside of Reuters, 187 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: which is ostensibly, we should say, a neutral news organization. 188 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: It's not like we're talking about MSNBC, right, supposed to 189 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: just be justified. Yet, yes, Ruters is supposed to be 190 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: the gold standard of journalism, as journalism is meant to be. 191 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: And of course if you believe that, you know, I 192 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: got a bridge to sell you in the middle of nowhere. 193 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: But this is what happened. He got fed to the 194 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: diversity and inclusion HR machinery. And as I've said before, 195 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: you hunt for Red October, you've seen it right, great, yeah, yeah, yeah. 196 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: The first person that Sean Connery when he's Ramius takes 197 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: out is the political commissar. Because this was a real 198 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: practice in the Soviet Union. There were people, whether it 199 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: was on the factory floor or in the front line 200 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: of a military unit. Their only job was to monitor 201 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: the conversations and the political fealty of other people than 202 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: the Soviet Union. Essentially, you better say the Communist Party 203 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: is great and our leadership is amazing, or you're going 204 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: to end up in the Gulag straight up. In a 205 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: different context with different severity, but similar mentality, diversity and inclusion. 206 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: HR departments are kind of like the commissars. They're there 207 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: to make sure you say what you're supposed to say, 208 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: or you get fired. This guy starts having the meetings. 209 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: They say it was provocative, They say what he posted 210 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: was antagonistic. He said, well, can I who says that? 211 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: Can I? Can I actually sit and have a conversation 212 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: with whomever inn HR says that. They say no. Someone 213 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: said this was the favorite comment that I saw, just 214 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: and how crazy it was. My unwillingness. This is one 215 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: of his colleagues who wrote on the the chat, Clay, 216 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: my unwillingness to engage with you doesn't signal the strength 217 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: of your argument. If someone says that KKK did lots 218 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: of good things for the community, prove me wrong. I'm 219 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: not obligated to do so end quote. So this is 220 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: how they handle it. He puts up data and they say, 221 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: we won't engage with your data because it would be 222 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: like saying that KKK did good things. The argument is 223 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: so stupid and so intellectually embarrassing. And you know what 224 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: they did after all this, they fired him six years 225 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: at Reuters, fired for sharing data in an internal chat thread. 226 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: No one says the data is wrong, no one questioned 227 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: the actual numbers not allowed. That's the country we're in now. 228 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: And by the way, he points out back to our 229 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: initial premise here on BLM clay that the narrative of 230 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: police are killing all these people with no cause except 231 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: racism has resulted in a lot of people, particularly are 232 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: disproportionately black people dying who would not have died BLM. 233 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: I believe this. 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You can also head to LifeLock dot 260 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: com use the promo code Clay that's Clay for up 261 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: to twenty five Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 262 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: We're about to be joined by Katie Pavlich to talk 263 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: about what has rapidly become one of the biggest stories 264 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: of supply chain crisis that has existed in a long 265 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: line of supply chain issues that have spread the length 266 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: and width and breadth of this country. If you listen, yesterday, 267 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: we opened up the phone lines and we were taking calls, 268 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: and we had calls literally from across the country. Savannah, Georgia, 269 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: Santa Barbara, California, some of you guys out there talking 270 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: about the difficulty that you are having finding baby formula. 271 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: And this story is continuing to grow because the White 272 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: House doesn't appear to have anyone in charge to be 273 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: managing this issue, and they haven't Buck talked about yesterday, 274 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: and I saw Senator Josh Holly from Missouri tweet about this. 275 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: They were quick to demand the Defense Authorization in order 276 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: to get ventilators in twenty twenty that ultimately we ended 277 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: up not using hardly any of them. In the grand 278 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: scheme of things, how is it that the government is 279 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: not mobilizing to ensure that there is enough baby formula? 280 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: Worse than that, as our next guest Katie Pavlich is 281 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: about to discuss with us Buck, they are simultaneously sending 282 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: massive amounts of baby formula to the border for illegal 283 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: immigrants crossing into our country to have for their children. Now, 284 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: I understand the difficulty of any baby that needs to 285 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: be fed, but if you had to provide for American 286 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: citizens or illegal immigrants, which one should be the focus 287 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: of an administration that was truly committed to serving the 288 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: American public. This is not a difficult proposition. And this 289 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: is growing into an increasingly massive political issue for Joe Biden, 290 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: dealing with a lot of bombs out there who may 291 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: well have voted for Joe Biden and now bear shelves 292 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: Biden has come for their own baby's formula. I still 293 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: have been asking, is there any food stuff that is 294 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: more essential to have access to than bright because, as 295 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: we've said, okay, there's Remember I remember during a pandemic 296 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: in New York, you would see what people really First 297 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: of all, you see what people thought was storable, right, 298 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: so drive pasta can goods couldn't get that anywhere. And 299 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: then you'd go in the meat shelves and it'd be 300 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: you know, like tongue meat, like weird desirable, the least 301 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: desirable food revealed. And and and I will say, in those 302 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: in those dark and frightening times, for a lot of people, 303 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: one of the funniest things was just to see, yeah, 304 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: that's right, commies, all the like soy tofu turkey stuff 305 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: was still there, like all the fake meat stuff. People 306 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,239 Speaker 1: are going into a pandemic, and it's like, yeah, do 307 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: I want side ten or am I just gonna go hungry? 308 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: And sure enough the side ten was still on the shelves. 309 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 1: But baby formula, I don't I don't know how you 310 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: were if you if you're baby, And people say, oh, 311 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: but they're some babies need specific formula. They've got dietary issues. 312 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: Even I have Celiac disease. Babies can have celiac disease. 313 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: It can manifest very early. It's a big deal. So 314 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: we'll talk to Katie about how it's getting. The federal 315 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: government moving it to the border right now in some places, 316 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: I this was astonishing, look pure talk. My friend provides 317 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: a great solution and alternative to expensive cell phone service. 318 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: Case in point, there later support on how much money 319 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: they're saving families. Listen to this. 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Biden is holding an event today. 339 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: Press not going to be there, but they'll give a 340 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: read out to the press on the baby formula shortage. 341 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: He's going to be speaking with retailers and manufacturers. Apparently 342 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: that's from the White House. But there's something else going 343 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: on here. Biden administration shipping palettes of baby formula to 344 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: the border. That's the Townhall piece. It's up at clay 345 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: en Buck dot com right now from Katie Pavlich who 346 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: joins us right now from Foxnews. She's a Townhall dot 347 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: com columnists as well. Katie, great to have you on 348 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: the program. Hey, guys, thanks so much for having me 349 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: tell us about this one. Because we had a Katie, 350 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: we could have taken phone calls for the whole show 351 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: yesterday from just anxious and pretty furious parents who are 352 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: scrambling to get baby formula. You're a piece in town Hall. 353 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: Lets everybody know that. Well, there's no problem with baby 354 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 1: formula at the southern border. What's going on? Yeah, So 355 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: Republican Congressan cachemic had a God Patrol agent contact her, 356 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: sending her photos of stock shelves inside a Border patrol 357 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: processing facility with baby formula and told her that there 358 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: are palettes of baby formula that have been delivered to 359 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: these processing centers. So while shelves in the stores across 360 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: America are bear and parents are driving hours and hours 361 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: to find formula for their children, the federal government clearly 362 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: has some kind of contract to buy up the limited 363 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: supply and deliver it not to those stores, but to 364 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: processing centers on the southern border. So this of course 365 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: brings up two issues. The first is that the crisis 366 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: of the southern border is a man made Biden administration problem, 367 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: and as we dig further into the reasons behind this 368 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: baby formula shortage, it's clear that that's also another Biden 369 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: administration federal government problem, with the FDA shutting down a 370 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 1: major plant that then not reopening it, putting it, wrapping 371 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: it in a bunch of red tape. And now, of 372 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: course there's a limited supply, and much of that is 373 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: now going to solve the crisis on the border with 374 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: people coming across with their children, who of course still 375 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: need to be fed as well. So it's infuriating, it's 376 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: frustrating parents, are you know, wondering where the next case 377 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: of that is going to come for their family, and 378 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: there seems to be plenty available for people who broke 379 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: the lot to get into the country, but not enough 380 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: available for people who are citizens of the country. Kayu's 381 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: great work by you, and it also shines a light 382 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: on how little attention is being played paid to the 383 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: border that it might take a baby formula shortage and 384 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: therefore baby formula being shipped to the border for many 385 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: in the media actually cover anything there. As we are 386 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: talking right now, I just got and alert sent to 387 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: my phone from the Wall Street Journal and the headline 388 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: is baby formulas shortage could last four months. In other words, 389 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: this is not something that is going to leave anytime soon. 390 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: They are now limiting how much parents can buy inside 391 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: of stores when they actually find baby formula there, Katie, 392 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: we know from the pandemic. Unfortunately a lot of us 393 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: experienced this. When there is a fear of a shortage 394 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: in a product, it actually exacerbates the shortage because when 395 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: people find it, they buy more of it than they 396 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: other would otherwise would How does this get fixed for 397 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,719 Speaker 1: so many moms and dads out there that are trying 398 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: desperately to find baby formula all over the country. Well, 399 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: the FDA could work to get this major plant back 400 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: open after there was a recall. It's been months now. 401 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: They keep saying they want it to be safe for 402 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: our parents and babies. Obviously everybody wants that to be true, 403 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: but they keep throwing up these roadblocks to reopen this 404 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: plant that supplies the country with something like percent of 405 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: the baby formula. Also, I would note that yesterday the 406 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: incoming Press Secretary Kareean Jean Pierre, whose first day starts tomorrow, 407 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: she's currently the deputy Press Secretary, who was asked specifically 408 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: about how the Biden administration is working to manage this 409 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: crisis as it gets worse. She gave you a paragraph 410 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: worth of statements about how they're working at twenty four 411 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: to seven, how they're looking at all of the options, 412 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: the usual bureaucratic speak, and then when their follow up 413 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: question was asked about who exactly is handling the situation, 414 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: she literally laughed out loud and said that she did 415 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: not know we played that audio. That's a problem. So 416 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: they're claiming that they're dealing with this issue. I'm wondering 417 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: where Pee Buddha Judge is at this point, and you 418 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: know that our government could do a lot when it 419 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: comes to commerce and figuring out how to look at 420 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: these contracts maybe that are going to the border and 421 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: maybe limit the number of baby formula palets that are 422 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: sent to there before they're sent to American stores across 423 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: the country. There's a couple of different options they have, 424 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: but we haven't heard much about it. We're speaking to 425 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: Katie Pavlich, editor at townhall dot com, Fox News contributor, Katie. 426 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: I know you spent a lot of time down at 427 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: the border and have a lot of contacts in border patrol, immigrations, 428 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: and customs enforcement. What are you hearing from them about 429 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: what's going to go on here with the title forty 430 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: two revocation which supposed to happen here in a couple 431 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: of weeks. I know there's a judge that's involved at 432 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 1: this stage, but also given the number that just came 433 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: out yesterday one hundred and seven thousand overdoses, mostly fentonel 434 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,719 Speaker 1: and most of that vast majority of that's coming across 435 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: the border illegally, feels like there's renewed urgency to get 436 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 1: this right. What are your border patrol contacts and folks 437 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: telling you. Look, they're saying basically, border patrol has been 438 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: turned into a processing agency, and Immigration and Customs Enforcement 439 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: has been turned into a travel agency. The administration's response 440 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: to Title forty two getting take and off in the 441 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: estimates of eighteen thousand people a day crossing the border 442 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: is not to deter people from coming, to put up 443 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: barriers to entry. It's to simply open up new processing 444 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: centers so they can process these people through and then 445 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: give them a plane ticket to wherever they want to go. 446 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: That's the solution that they're they're offering here, and Border 447 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: patrol is terrible morale at this point. You know, their 448 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: job and their mission is to protect the homeland from 449 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: foreign threats from drug traffickers, as you mentioned, from human trackers, 450 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 1: from human smugglers. But this administration's policies have been to 451 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: simply process thousands of people through the system and to 452 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: let them go into the country. It's it's kind of 453 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 1: like having a roof, a leak in your roof and 454 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: putting out a bucket, and then as the bucket fills 455 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: up and the leak gets bigger, they just add a 456 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: couple of buckets. So that's what they're doing. They're going 457 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: to open up new processing centers. They're going to put 458 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: people in the front of the line for Title forty 459 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: two processing in terms of the court system, making the 460 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: backlog worse. So that's where we're headed as a result 461 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: of this, Katie, when we talk about baby formulas shortages 462 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: and the border being a sieve and inflation at eight 463 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: point five or eight point three percent, you've got obviously 464 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: murder rate skyrocketing everywhere. You're really smart, You're good at 465 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: communication skills. If Joe Biden came to you and he said, Katie, 466 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: I need you to make a pitch for something that 467 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: I've done really well so far in my presidency nearly 468 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: eighteen months. Buck and I are fairly smart guys. We 469 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: can't even come up with a pitch for Joe Biden 470 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: as we get closer to the mid terms. I'm not 471 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: talking about the abortion angle. What has Joe Biden actually 472 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: done well? Can you even think? I mean, then it 473 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: truly is incomprehensible how bad he has been, even for 474 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: people who expected and I think Buck and I are 475 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: in this camp that you are too, that it wasn't 476 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: going to be good. But I don't think any of 477 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: us expected him to be this bad. Could you even 478 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: point to anything that hasn't been a disaster for him? Well, no, 479 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: I mean his pit just not to the entire country 480 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: as he promised, mister unification. His pitches to the far 481 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: left of his party. He's controlled by the far left 482 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 1: of his party. If you look at the move they 483 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: made yesterday to stop the leasing in Alaska and the 484 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: Gulf of Mexico, you know they think that that is 485 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: a pitch to the base, hoping that the base gets 486 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: out to admit in midterms, because midterm elections are base elections, 487 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: and that's who he's pitching to. That's who he wants 488 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 1: to talk to, that's who he's communicated to. So if 489 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: you see it from that perspective, you know, there are 490 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: a number of far left policies that he's implemented that 491 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: he would see as a success, that they would see 492 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: as a success. But for the rest of the country 493 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: it has been a complete and total disaster. It's like 494 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: you look at those foals that show you know, do 495 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: you think that Joe Biden is doing a good job, 496 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: and like thirty percent of the country still says yes, 497 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: And you wonder who those people are well, if that's 498 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: the far left of the base that thinks that these 499 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: things that he's doing are good for the country or 500 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: like a cleaning up of whatever they think that Trump did, 501 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: and that's who he's speaking to. He's not speaking to 502 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 1: the entire country. You've got Katie's piece linked up at 503 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: clainbuck dot com on plenty of formula at the border, 504 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: but not for all the rest of the American people. Katie, 505 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: thanks so much for being with us. Come back soon, 506 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: Thanks guys, I will, thanks so much. Sea Another month 507 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: more bad news on the cost of living and inflation. 508 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: You know it, we know it. We're talking about it 509 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: here every day because it's a big problem. It reminded 510 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: me one more time that our dollars are just not 511 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: going as far as they used to, and I mean 512 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: recently used to. 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And Buck, I want to 540 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: just mentioned this, by the way, as we as we 541 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: close out the first hour. When we come back at 542 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: the start of the second hour, I want to dive 543 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: into this ridiculous whistleblower situation that is going on where 544 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: parents were investigated for what they said at school boards 545 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: and more. But this is pretty crazy when you consider 546 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: how aggressive Buck Merrick Garland the ag was responding to 547 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: any minor criticism that ever existed, that that was raised 548 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: related to school board meetings, all these different things. He's 549 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: been almost totally absent on this Supreme Court justice protest 550 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: related issue. And a lot of people have started asking, hey, 551 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: given how many of these uh sprint Court justices also 552 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: live in Virginia, what's the situation with the Glen Yunkin. 553 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: What's the situation given the fact there's a Republican governor 554 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: there where. Well, Glenn Junkin is now having to speak 555 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: out and say, hey, Merrick Garland, how about you enforce 556 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: federal law and protect the homes of Supreme Court justices. 557 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: Here is Virginia Governor Glenn Junkin, You're right here at 558 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: cut two telling Merrick Garland do your job. Well. The 559 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: statute is incredibly clear. It basically says if you are 560 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: parading or picketing in order to try to influence a judge, 561 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: then it's punishable with up to a year in prison. 562 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: That sounds illegal to me, and I just ask the 563 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: Attorney General to enforce the law that's on the books. 564 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: If people want to demonstrate someplace off away from their home, 565 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,479 Speaker 1: that's their prerogative. But again, this is not a final ruling, 566 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: it's a draft ruling. And clearly these demonstrations are being 567 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: pulled together to try to influence the final outcome, and 568 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: that is prohibited based on federal statute. Just like at 569 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: the southern border, when Democrats have politics that conflicts with 570 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: the law, Clay, all of a sudden the laws nullified. 571 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter anymore. Now I understand people will say, well, 572 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: he's the governor, but this is he's referring to the 573 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: federal statute which specifically goes after intimidation of a federal judge, 574 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: in this case, a Supreme Court justice or justice. Is 575 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: This state statute, which we've also looked at here on 576 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: the show in Virginia, is more along the lines of 577 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: like a local nuisance ordinance where you can't protest outside 578 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: of someone's home. It doesn't have that judicial intimidation component. 579 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: So it's probably even if you enforced it, likely to 580 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: be more more along the lines of, you know, a 581 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: fine maybe you know, maybe a bench take it to 582 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: appear before a judge, so you know, so you know, look, 583 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: I get it people want him to take because I've 584 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: seen some conservatives who are upset at Junkin over this one. 585 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: They wanted him to take a stronger line on this one. 586 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean we should forget that. The Attorney 587 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: General and the FBI could say, hey, knock this stuff off. 588 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: We're we're gonna rest people for judicial intimidation that actually 589 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: has some teeth, that actually is a serious statute. And 590 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: here is where I would just come down with the 591 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: content neutral policies in place. What do we think Merrick 592 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: Garland would do if, let's say the Supreme Court had 593 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: upheld the vaccine mandate of Joe Biden, forcing eighty four 594 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: million people who were employed to go get COVID shots, 595 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: which by the way, have minimal at best effectiveness for 596 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: many people out there. Okay, I'm waiting for my seventh 597 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: and then I know it's really going to kick in. 598 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: That's really where it's going to kick in. But Buck, 599 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: what do you think would happen if the liberal justices 600 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: were being picketed and people were standing outside of their 601 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: homes screaming at them in the way, this would be 602 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: a continuation of January sixth. It would be on the 603 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: front page of every major newspaper, New York Times, Washington Post, 604 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: and there would be a demand on MSNBC and on 605 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: CNN that something be done to stop these protesters outside 606 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: of the homes of these Supreme Court justices that are 607 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: trying to intimidate these justices for their decision. And I 608 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: feel like Merrick Garland might well act. I really do, 609 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: because it would allow him to continue. The right wing 610 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: is out of control in this country. We have to 611 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: use the Department of Justice to help to reign in 612 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: their behavior. But yet nothing happening right now at all 613 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: with the same thing for these conservative judges. How does 614 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: how does the deep state? And how do Democrats use 615 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: the power that they have within the federal bureaucracy even 616 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: under a Republican president. By the way, when they have 617 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: political political equities, you could say at stake, remember what 618 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: they did the Special Council, of course, independent of operating 619 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: largely independent of I mean, it is within technically the 620 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: control of the DOJ, but it's meant to be independent. 621 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: Remember what they did to a Roger Stone and in 622 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: his pajamas. They sent in a every laden style Rarego 623 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 1: was there to watch. I mean they well, they invited 624 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,720 Speaker 1: CNN to essentially live stream the arrest of Roger Stone. 625 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: They sent a few dozen guys with long guns and 626 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 1: flak vests in and they made sure it was on TV. 627 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: That is intimidation to show people, Yeah, you step out 628 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: a line, you do anything that we don't like and 629 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: that has a political impact, We'll send men with guns 630 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: to your home at four am to humiliate you and 631 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: to throw the cuffs on you. Instead of just what 632 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 1: would have happened if they called Roger Stones said look, 633 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: you need to surrender yourself to the US Attorney's office 634 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: or you know, to an a USA tomorrow, he would 635 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: have been there. But they made an arrest to make 636 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: a point, and they did it in a way meant 637 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: to humiliate, degrade, and threaten. That's how the Democrats play 638 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: the game. Now on the other side of it, are 639 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 1: they going to enforce the Statute against clear judicial intimidation 640 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: with this issue at stake. No, And I'll tell you 641 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: I think there are sub Democrats who were you know, 642 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: I think Chuck Schumer feels like if he doesn't sound 643 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,439 Speaker 1: like a whacko on this one and far leftisting else, 644 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,399 Speaker 1: they'll be pickting outside his home next. So well, he's 645 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: claiming that they already are. Right. Did you hear his 646 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: answer for why he didn't have a problem with it now? 647 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 1: To be fair, Dick Durbin, one of the top that 648 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: Democrats in the Senate, said no, they shouldn't be protesting 649 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: outside of Supreme Court justice. But Schumer said, Buck, well, 650 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 1: they already do it three or four days a week 651 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: outside of my own home. And I'm thinking to myself, 652 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: who in the world is protesting Chuck Schumer? Maybe left wingers. 653 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: Apparently I'm late on the uptake here. Apparently they're already 654 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: there protesting Schumer. But that's the point, is that the 655 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: whacko left here is you. They're pulling all the levers 656 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: they can on this issue all over the place. By 657 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 1: the way, you see, Peter Peter came at me yesterday 658 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: from my joke about the fake milk. What the number 659 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: of people who get upset about your milk taste. I 660 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: love it. It's really off the commies. They have no 661 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: sense of humor. That's why it's great. I love it. 662 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: I was catching up. I caught up with those ark. 663 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: I finished the whole show. Oh yeah, it's an interesting ending. 664 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil it for anybody, but that's 665 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: a pretty good Netflix program. So yeah, that officially was 666 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: catching up on that. So I missed a little bit 667 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,399 Speaker 1: of the news last night. I didn't see Peter coming 668 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: after you play Travis and Buck Sexton on the front 669 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: lines of trus