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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat. It is Monday, July twentieth, twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: and it is time, donks for Morning Combat. Hi everyone,

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Speaker 2: I am one half of your hosting duo. My name

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Speaker 2: is Luke Thomas. I am joined by the gentleman on

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Speaker 2: I wonder only Brian Campbell, BC, how are you doing today?

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Speaker 1: Fired the heck up, Luke on so many fronts. Yes,

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Speaker 1: to kick with us? Cool, We're wicked. Gee, we'll hit

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Speaker 1: the skins, but never quickly. And we're back Luke with

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Speaker 1: things are happening in the MK universe. I wish I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we certainly do. I don't want to give too

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Speaker 2: much away. I'm gonna just let it sort of play out. Also, BC,

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Speaker 2: I don't always read the comments on YouTube, but I did.

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Speaker 2: did notice one thing. BC people wait until I'm done

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Speaker 2: It's not a me and you thing. It's a wee thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it is, it is. And look, to be honest,

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Speaker 2: to our first of our five major topics.

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Speaker 1: BC.

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Speaker 2: UFC Fight Night I think it was one seventy two,

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Speaker 1: Now, yeah, yeah, I don't want to bury the lead

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Speaker 2: So if you look at Joseph Benavitez his losses, he

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Speaker 1: I've been asking him about this bride'smaid theory for about

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Speaker 1: But Luke, it's time for me now to bang the

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Speaker 1: drum of all things. Davison Figaredo, nineteen and one. I

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Speaker 1: He is. He is, straight up, you know, and we

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Speaker 1: maybe that's the only way it connects with the Kevin

426
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 1: Lee conversation, where I see the full body of talent,

427
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 1: but something's missing from making that step to the next level.

428
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Speaker 2: Do you like my idea of though? I mean, you know,

429
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 2: UFC is going to tell me to pound sand, but

430
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,359
Speaker 2: what do you make of one sixty five one seventy five,

431
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 2: especially coming.

432
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 1: Certainly the Box only liked the spirit of that idea.

433
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 1: Luke because it seems to be a black hole where

434
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Speaker 1: you can get caught in the middle there being you know,

435
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,439
Speaker 1: too small, too big for the respective weight class. But

436
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 1: they have eight divisions, and as I've said it before

437
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 1: as a boxing fan, right, we think back to the

438
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 1: glory days of eight divisions, one champion per division. You

439
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 1: always knew who was the man. Now in boxing, it's

440
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 1: just such a bastardized reality that I hesitate the idea

441
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,159
Speaker 1: because then you go, okay, let's add sixty five. We'll

442
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 1: bump up middleweight up to or Walt's weight up to

443
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,919
Speaker 1: seventy five, and hey, we might as well do a

444
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 1: ninety five, you know, and hey how about two fifteen junior?

445
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 1: Have you no, no, get the frick out of here.

446
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,880
Speaker 1: Let's keep it where we are now. Look, you're gonna

447
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,959
Speaker 1: have some guys where it's heartbreaking, Okay, it is what

448
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,160
Speaker 1: it is. Right, There's gonna be small heavyweights who can't

449
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 1: make two of five either. You do have to adjust

450
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:30,920
Speaker 1: and figure it out.

451
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 2: Louk, Okay. Yeah. And by the way, to be clear,

452
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 2: you see, I'm not arguing we should make one sixty

453
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Speaker 2: five and then ultimately walterweight one seventy five on account

454
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Speaker 2: of Kelvin Gaston. I'm like, hey, let's do Kelvin a

455
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,479
Speaker 2: solid I don't mean that, like, if you're gonna make

456
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,639
Speaker 2: new weight classes, you have to have a very good,

457
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 2: broad sweeping reason to do it, and we can have

458
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 2: that debate. I just mean to say, let's let's assume

459
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 2: it for a second we were all convinced one sixty

460
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 2: five was a good idea. My argument is Kelvin would

461
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 2: I think, be a very strong beneficiary of that. And

462
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,880
Speaker 2: I guess the last thing I'd say is, I don't know, man,

463
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,360
Speaker 2: if he can find a way to get back down

464
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 2: to one seventy. And when I say that, I don't

465
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 2: mean you know, hey, just try it out. No, I

466
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 2: mean like with a real nutritionist, a real discipline, real

467
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 2: game plan, and so that you can reliably make it

468
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 2: every time that you need to, including by the way,

469
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 2: one seventy on the nugget for title opportunities. Then I

470
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 2: think you should go back to walterweight. It's twenty eight

471
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 2: years old, there's still a lot of time there. I

472
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,959
Speaker 2: think you'd be very competitive with some of the Colby

473
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,400
Speaker 2: Covington's and Jorge Masvidals and some of the other figures

474
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 2: in that division. So I think that's the best opportunity

475
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 2: for him, assuming he can get that right b C

476
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:35,160
Speaker 2: very quickly.

477
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 1: Quickly here, because Jay's going to pass a kidney stone here.

478
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,959
Speaker 1: But people want to hear about this type of stuff.

479
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: Would you be okay with a middle ground in which

480
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 1: the UFC kept the BMF title around and made it

481
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 1: feel like a quasi title and we only tried to

482
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: match action fighters in it, but in reality it was

483
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: kind of a low key one sixty five title because

484
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 1: for the most part, that's where the majority of these

485
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 1: quote unquote bmfors live. I mean, look, if you made

486
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Speaker 1: a list of the fifteen guys you would most want

487
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 1: in a BMF fight, what twelve of them would be

488
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 1: between lightweight and Walter Way. You are right around there,

489
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 1: you know, or maybe even above waltters Way, closer to middleweight.

490
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: So that might be the better direction for a Calvin

491
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: Gastolon who can put in fun brawls but can't seem

492
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: to figure out the full picture.

493
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 2: I'm not convinced that if he can't get things together,

494
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 2: he couldn't be a title contender again at one seventy.

495
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 2: I think he probably could, and I don't hate that

496
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 2: idea you brought up. But to me, it's like, either

497
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 2: do one sixty five the right way or just don't

498
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 2: you know? I mean, I don't. Yeah, some sort of

499
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 2: ghost title that kind of means one sixty five, but

500
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 2: not really, I don't know. It's not for me. All right,

501
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 2: let's jump to point three.

502
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 1: Here, can I hijack your show again? Jay's carrying a

503
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 1: loaded weapon right now and we're just burying the lead.

504
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: Are you gonna keep it going or what?

505
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 2: Let's yes for just a second, for just a second,

506
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,360
Speaker 2: let's let's run through. This is a little bit more

507
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 2: all right. Point three, So we're talking about this card.

508
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 2: We talked about the mame, we talked about the comain

509
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 2: BC one more time. I will pitch it to you,

510
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 2: good sir, anywhere you want to go from the rest

511
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 2: of this card. Who else from Saturday's event impressed you?

512
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,479
Speaker 1: All right? There's a guy who impressed I think all

513
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 1: of us the most. I'm gonna save him for one second.

514
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: I do want to complete that flyweight title picture conversation

515
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: because that ascar Askarov Pantosia fight was absolutely fantastic, Luke.

516
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 1: They said it obscene pace. Pantosia always sets an obscene

517
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: pace and he couldn't keep up with this pace. I

518
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 1: sort of said, Luke last you know, last Thursday show.

519
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: If you don't know about about this Russian fella, you

520
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: better ask Aarov because this guy screamed title contender to

521
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: me right, only had that draw with Moreno. That was

522
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: all Action had won all of his tests coming in. Dude,

523
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 1: that's a hell of an elite win that he had

524
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: over Pantosia. I don't know if Askarov is going to

525
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 1: get the next title shot. Moreno's in that conversation as well,

526
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: but Luke, any like I said before, any combination of

527
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: those three or four names, it's going to be magic

528
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: in the flyweight division. And I'm very late to this

529
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: part party, so uh please let me in on this.

530
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: I want to talk Physiev for days. But give my

531
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 1: my my brother Askar Askarov the love he deserves, Luke.

532
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 2: All Right, So with that in mind, who else in

533
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 2: that card impressed you? No?

534
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: I just challenged you to love the man, Luke, to

535
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: to just accept it. This guy is a stud.

536
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 2: Yeah he's great. Okay. Who else in the card impressed you? Wow? Wow?

537
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, wake up kids, we got the dreamers disease.

538
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: All right. Uh look, it was half Ael Physiev all

539
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 1: day at lightweight against march A Casey everything.

540
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 2: He's from Kyrgyzstan.

541
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 1: What did I call him?

542
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 2: Halfiel? It's Rafael Raphael.

543
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 1: Well look sorry, Luke, Sorry, okay, yeah, thank you, thank you.

544
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 1: It's uh okay, all right. So Raphael Phiziev is a

545
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 1: freaking cyborg. He's a freak of nature. I've already had

546
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: people on Twitter. Oh BC stuh, you know, get that

547
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: heart on down a bit. He thought a guy Taylor

548
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: made to make him look good. I understand the the

549
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: you know, limitations of a mark to Casey, which is

550
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: why although he said ahead of this fight he was

551
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: going to break into the top you know, five or

552
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: seven in the division with a big win here, and

553
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: he still seems far off. But to see the the intention,

554
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: the bad intentions of every strike phizzevs seemed to show

555
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: out there Physiv. He was looking to finish the fight. Luke,

556
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: it's you know, again, there's very rare times that someone's

557
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: talent just like leaps through the screen when you aren't

558
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 1: woke to him, and I certainly wasn't. I didn't watch

559
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: his UFC debut or I didn't remember it. This was

560
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 1: a night where I wrote this guy's name down in

561
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: my heart and said I'm going to follow him to

562
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: the to the ending because I need to see him

563
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 1: climb this lightweight ladder.

564
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is amazing. Actually, it's a funny thing. I

565
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 2: actually spoke this morning with George Hickman. George Chickman is

566
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 2: the head MMA coach at Tiger mouy Thai. I don't

567
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: know if you know this BC so Raphael Fazaia Pasia

568
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: if however you pronounce it. He was sort of a good,

569
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 2: very high level tie boxer at the time in Thailand,

570
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 2: had done with work some other teams. And here's the

571
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: connection Brad Riddell, who is now one of the.

572
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: Well he was kickboxing hoodie on Break It Out.

573
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. He was the striking coach at

574
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: Tiger More tie when he left that. Fazaiav was the

575
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 2: guy who took his spot, and they didn't even know

576
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 2: that the guy wanted the job. He just sort of

577
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: asked to try out for it and they were like yeah, sure,

578
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: And then of course he has been amazing. I asked

579
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,959
Speaker 2: George Chikman, like, how good of a wrestler on all

580
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: the other phases is Vasiah, and he was like, he

581
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 2: is very much the real deal. So being on the

582
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 2: lookout for this guy, he looked like a wrestler, but

583
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 2: then he had that lean back and everything else. I mean,

584
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: he is absolutely phenomenal on the feet. The other sort

585
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 2: of Tiger moy Thai connection here I would make BC.

586
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Arman Sarryuki and wow, man, he

587
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 2: is absolutely impressive. You know, he lost in his debut

588
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: to Islam Makachev, but you know he put Makachev through

589
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 2: the paces. Certainly he was competitive I think through the

590
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 2: majority of that fight. And you know Makachev is more seasoned,

591
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 2: a little bit more polished, better of a fighter right now, Okay,

592
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: but still you could tell right away he was amazing.

593
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 2: The guy right now is only twenty three years old,

594
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 2: and he made Davi Homos look foolish. It was not

595
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 2: even especially close at all, and he didn't mind going

596
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: to the ground. Beautiful double leg got out of the

597
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 2: inside or reverse daa eva when he rolled underneath on

598
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 2: the feet, looked competent. George Hickman told me another story.

599
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: His brother Frank is the wrestling coach at Tiger moy

600
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 2: Tai doesn't work over in New Zealand and Australia as well.

601
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 2: And he told me Armasar Yuki and came through Tiger

602
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: moy Tay because they had a tryout and this guy

603
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: won the scholarship. At like twenty twenty one years old,

604
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: Frank Hickman had wrestled Division one and he said after

605
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 2: he sort of wrestled with Armand to see how good

606
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: he was, he came by to Georgia and he goes, uh,

607
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: he can wrestle, And he said, for my brother to

608
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 2: say that, which he never does, is a big deal.

609
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 2: So Arminsaryuki and be on the lookout for him. To

610
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: your point, Raphaelta Zaiev, be on the lookout these dudes

611
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: BC from like the Caucus Mountains, like Indo Europe, you know,

612
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: the former Soviet satellite states. Boy, these guys are not

613
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: to be played with.

614
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, armand Katayan probably another Armenian hero as well. Shout

615
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: out to your people, Luke, But I haven't seen you no,

616
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: you know, cold shoulder, no seala guy like you're doing

617
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: right now with Askarov. Except for that that remember that

618
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: submission guy in Belatore from Israel. You were like, I

619
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: want nothing to do with that guy except for that.

620
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: I've never seen you. No sela guy, Askarov my guy?

621
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: All right? Mission guy from Bellator? Who? Which guy was that?

622
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: The dude who was like nineteen? He had those flashy

623
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: submissions back to back. You weren't drinking the juice? You weren't.

624
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: I don't remember. I don't remember, like I don't drink.

625
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: I don't you know.

626
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I don't know. I know he's fine, but like,

627
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 2: I'm not one of the like I might be an

628
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: mm a hipster, but I'm not one of these mm

629
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: hipsters who pretends that flywaight is the world's greatest division.

630
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: I'm mostly bored by it. Not bored, I'm mostly unmoved

631
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: by it. So I agree he is talented. I agree

632
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: that fight was good, but I don't have you know,

633
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: I don't have a stiffy like you do.

634
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: For you's got to be a personal in there somewhere somewhere, Askerov.

635
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: I have nothing against them, no, no, no, I'm just not

636
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: all these people out in m are like it's a

637
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,479
Speaker 2: travesty what the UFC has done to fly weight, and

638
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: then on what I have to produce flyweight content for

639
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 2: people to read and this is before of course they

640
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: gutted it, but even now still no one reads it.

641
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: No one listens to podcasts that are about the flyweight division.

642
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: Everyone likes to chirp like they think it's the best

643
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 2: division on earth and they care so much about it.

644
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: They're all liars, BC. I just don't pretend.

645
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I just wanted to

646
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: hear your you say it. You know last week you

647
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: didn't want to talk about this fight. I'm telling you

648
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: Askrov's coming for that ass. I just wanted you to

649
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: give him. He give any love to Lipski's women's flyweight

650
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: knee bar where I think she broke that poor chick's leg.

651
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: Did you see that? The the opportunism and the presence

652
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: of mind and then the viciousness. Absolutely, I will give

653
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: it to her, But I gotta tell you, like the

654
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: poor control by Carolina underneath, you know, like there's a

655
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: reason you don't see people do knee bars like that

656
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: when they're in a calf slicer, And it's because you're

657
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: supposed to be chess to back with them so they

658
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: can't just reach down and then fiddle with whatever they

659
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: want to fiddle.

660
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: Look at that picture.

661
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: Look at that look yeah, I mean it's vicious. It's vicious,

662
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 2: there's no denying it's vicious. In fact, she's sort of

663
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: it's it's funny like were she not in a calf slicer.

664
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 2: That's almost exactly what you would want to do for

665
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: a knee bar, where you sort of sit on the

666
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: chest to keep them pinned down. She's still a little

667
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 2: high for that, but I know.

668
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: I think if you you break, you destroy somebody like that,

669
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: you should be able to take the leg home and

670
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: put like a lampshade on it, you know, Christmas story side.

671
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but for gilay on that bitch, I understand that.

672
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: Actually, by the way, kind of sneaky hot too. I know,

673
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: I know, well I hit that part out after, but

674
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: you know somebody.

675
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: Was thinking it's a it's a nice submission. I take

676
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: nothing away. But to me, the best submissions are not

677
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: just the craziest most visus ones, although those count. It's

678
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: when you do it against somebody who's very very talented,

679
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 2: and Luke just.

680
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: Not into, not into putting over anybody who's not Armenian. Today,

681
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: very interesting episodes.

682
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: Listen, I have my biases. If you're Azerbaijani. You're out.

683
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: You're out, all right, Let's go to number four here

684
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 2: if we can BC. And I think it was reported

685
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: by ESPN just before the show, So now Israel Atasanya

686
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: and Paulo Costa my understandings, I think it was Arejuani's

687
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: on ESPN saying and reporting that they have signed their

688
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: boat agreements for UFC two fifty three BC. The question

689
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: we have to wrestle with is is this if you

690
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: think about all the title fights they're going to have now,

691
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 2: still only halfway through the year or so, but you

692
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: can kind of see what might be out there. Is

693
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: this the most important title fight the UFC will have

694
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 2: this year? And the answer is no, but yes. And

695
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 2: here's what I mean. You've got DC and step A

696
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: three just next month, and because those two have fought

697
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 2: before and because of where they stand in their careers,

698
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 2: the winner of that is basically going to take home

699
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: not really the UFC heavyweight title, but the unofficial title

700
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: of best UFC Heavyweight. Ever, that's still somewhat debatable because

701
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: Cormier didn't have the long career there, but I don't

702
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: think most people are gonna quibble with it. If you

703
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,719
Speaker 2: beat the guy who was the guy who was supposed

704
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: to be that and Steve A, you do it two

705
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 2: times out of thirty kind of makes you that guy.

706
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: So in that sense, no, But in another sense, BC,

707
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: we just talked about Brazil potentially having a third champion.

708
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: That's a big deal in terms of the internationalization of

709
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 2: MMA without a Signia being from Nigeria and now of

710
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 2: course representing New Zealand, that's a big deal. But the

711
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: bigger part to me about this one, BC is to me,

712
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: if Atasignya wins this, it's another step in the right

713
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: direction for him to be a star. He was on

714
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: the cover of ESPN, He's on the cover of the magazine,

715
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: he does all the interviews. Well, the UFC is dying

716
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: to get this guy into a position where people really

717
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 2: want to see him fight, and he is so close,

718
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: and the Paulo Costa fight seems like it has all

719
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: the makings to get him there. Now he has to win.

720
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: So if he loses, forget Paulo Costa could take his

721
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: place for crying out loud, But if Adasigna wins, to MEBC,

722
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if it will be the star making moment,

723
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 2: but it's got all the ingredients. It's a real grudge match.

724
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 2: They don't have to fake talk like they'd hate each other.

725
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 2: They legitimately don't. It represents something so huge about UFC.

726
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: They might even be able to do it, by the way,

727
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: BC in New Zealand with a crowd that is not

728
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 2: out of the question. We don't even know the location

729
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 2: for this yet. So to me, if they had done

730
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: Nurma Kamdov versus Tony, that would have been the biggest one.

731
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 2: I still recognize the enormous significance of next month, but

732
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 2: when you're talking about the future of the sport BC, honestly,

733
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: I think this one, in that sense is the most important.

734
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, how often do we get two unbeaten fighters and

735
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: a major title fight and you have the backstory they

736
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: don't like each other. It's kind of the third time

737
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: they've tried to make this fight due to injury and

738
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: COVID and at its cour this is a box of sex.

739
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: You know, step three, Uh, put your thing in the box.

740
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: This is absolutely an incredible fight on paper because look

741
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: like the you know, styles make fights. But the best

742
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: thing about fights are when guys are dance partners that

743
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: match perfectly and Coasta's unyielding, straight ahead style mat Cheese Mo,

744
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find out if your backbone is what you

745
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 1: think it is paired against. You know, the best counter

746
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: striker going today in terms of most calculated and creative guy.

747
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: This is I mean, this is you know, Hollywood casting

748
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: for as far as styles go. And you know, whoever

749
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: does win and I and you know at of Sonia

750
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 1: deserves to be favored. But whoever does win is really

751
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: going to get that that giant catapult and push and

752
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: for Israel, you know, the Romero fight was it was

753
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: a detour, it was a speed bump. It didn't go

754
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: the way it was planned. I got caught up like

755
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people and think it would be a

756
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: great fight. And you know, should have woke up to

757
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: see what the USC matchmakers had seen when they told

758
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: Dana they didn't want to match it. But he got

759
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: out of there with a win. And this is that

760
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,479
Speaker 1: exact fight that can make him that next level star

761
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: for those that aren't woke to him. Absolutely agree with

762
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: you on that, Luke. It's not more important than the others.

763
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: But speaking of bag of sex, where was uh stag

764
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: parties big in your area or was that like a

765
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: Northeast thing where I was.

766
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: Especially for my memory? What it's a stag party.

767
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: I think it's exclusive to New England. I'm not sure

768
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: people can jump in. But if you're getting married, instead

769
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: of like a wild bachelor party where you go out

770
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: to a bar and strip club and all that with

771
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: your friends, you would have a stag where you'd runt

772
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: out a you know, a Polish hall. Everyone would come

773
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: and spend you know, a twenty five dollars ticket, which

774
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: would get them a cheap buffet and all the you know,

775
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: bush light keg they can drink. And then there's raffle

776
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: gifts and depending on how cultured and sophisticated the potential

777
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: groom is, those raffle tickets could be legit. They could

778
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: be like you know, second row red Sox tickets are

779
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: you know, golf clubs or xbox or something ridiculous. Did

780
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: they have that in your area?

781
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 2: No? I didn't really attend any cuckfest. I didn't go

782
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: to Kukapalooza two thousand. That was never on my agenda.

783
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: No. No, this is more of like a factory town thing.

784
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: The whole point is that pays for your honeymoon that's

785
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: why you do this, Louke. But I would always I

786
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: was that guy in my early twenties who was kind

787
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: of like a professional stag attender where somebody be like, hey, yo,

788
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: my buddy's having to stay. You gotta come tomorrow night,

789
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: and I'd weigh the odds. I go twenty five bucks,

790
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 1: can get me a buffet and all the bush lead

791
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: I can drink cold, Like, yeah, I'll go there. So

792
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: it was always like a you know, a good investment.

793
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 1: But I always forgot to get a raffle gift, which

794
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: was sort of custom. Right, what does this have to

795
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 1: do with USFC two fifty three. I'm going to connect

796
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: the dots right now. You know, some people would buy

797
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: a giant liquor bottle or something. I last minute, if

798
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: I completely forgot to prepare, would do bag oh porn.

799
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: So I would get a giant paper bag, fill it

800
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: with the grossest magazines I could find, right in sharpie

801
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: on the outside, bag dash oh dash porn, put it

802
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: on the table, and it would always be like the

803
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: first item chosen by some creepy old guy who would

804
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: then pass it around to all the old like Italian dads.

805
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 1: The wrestling it was a giant hit. This fight Coast

806
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: at Sonia is the bag of Bago porn at the

807
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: morning combat stag like, this is it? This is the one.

808
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 2: You don't think it has the potential to be that

809
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: turning point for Atasania or one of the early turning

810
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 2: points for uh for Coasta if he ends up winning,

811
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 2: Like yeah, to me, here's the thing, here's here's the thing.

812
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: If if if Geechie goes up and I mean there's

813
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,959
Speaker 2: all different ways to measure significance. Right as I mentioned

814
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 2: DCCA three title for best heavyweight ever, I mean, that's

815
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 2: a huge deal. I can recognize that. And if Gatechie

816
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 2: goes over there and beats NUMBERKA made off, I don't

817
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: know the dull. Let's just say that he does, then

818
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 2: that carries like its own form of enormous significance. But

819
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 2: still you can just kind of tell man, all all

820
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 2: roads at middleweight lead to this. You can't go forward

821
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 2: to middleweight until you settle it. And you have dynamic personalities,

822
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 2: dynamic guys on front of the camera, totally opposite styles,

823
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: totally opposite parts of the world, and both of them

824
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 2: are not stars yet, but they're just you know, they're

825
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: kind of engine there. I don't know. It feels to

826
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: me like one of those things you'll look back on

827
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: like that was the point in their career where X

828
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 2: did this, you know, right.

829
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: Because you're almost guaranteed to get a finish that like

830
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: Coast is gonna make you knock him out, right, So

831
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: you're almost guaranteed to get the kind of performance and

832
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: finish that is currency to yanking those casual fans in.

833
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: So if Adustania wins this, he's probably gonna have to

834
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: stop him to do it, and he can give the

835
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: SoundBite afterwards and casual fans, we'll lick that ish up.

836
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: So it's a perfect setup fight Luke if he can

837
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: get through it, and it's gonna be a violent test.

838
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 2: All right. Well that in mind, let's go to our

839
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: fifth and final point. So we have looked back at

840
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 2: the news and the results from last weekend, let's look ahead.

841
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: Darren Till returns to the cage against Robert Whittaker in

842
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 2: a middleweight title not in a title fair but I

843
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 2: guess potential title contender. About first, let's talk about who

844
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: is likely to win BC And the answer to that

845
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: question is I gotta be honest, I I'm gonna guess

846
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: Robert Whittaker if he is back to being Robert Whittaker,

847
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 2: where he is taking his time, where Till is a

848
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,959
Speaker 2: big target at one eighty five. Both of these guys

849
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: former welterweights, you know, but Till is clearly the bigger

850
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: of the two. And at one eighty five, when you

851
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: look at them, you say to yourself, one guy is

852
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: sort of a step and slider, another guy is a

853
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 2: you know, a hop and and blitzer. And it didn't

854
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 2: work against Atta Soignya, who's very creative that way, but

855
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: I think it might against Till, who doesn't have quite

856
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 2: the reflexes or speed that Ata Soignya does. And also,

857
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 2: I think that Whittaker had that long layoff, and you know,

858
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: we all know about the other issues that he had.

859
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: Now he seems to be centered, he seems to be

860
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: a little more focused. I think he was just a

861
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: little bit too hurried in the game against Atasignya. But

862
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 2: I still think if those guys fought again, the second

863
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: five would be very different. Maybe Atasignya wins again. I'm

864
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 2: just saying I don't think it would look like the

865
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 2: first At a bare minimum, I think you get a

866
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 2: lot of those elements here, except Whittaker can do some

867
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 2: of the things that Jorge Masvidol did and get in

868
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 2: and out, and so I like him to win. You know, again,

869
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 2: not an official prediction, but I lean that way.

870
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: What do you think, Yeah, I mean, you nail the

871
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: whole sort of handicapping element. It depends which version of

872
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: Robert Whitaker we get, because he's one of the I mean,

873
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: certainly was one of the most elite fighters before losing

874
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: his title on the Pump for Punsense, but he might

875
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: be like the most balanced and well rounded elite fighter

876
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: that we've seen in a long time, and has that

877
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: disposition and toughness to go through hell ten rounds with

878
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: Vitor belfourt mate, I'm sorry not Vitor. Obviously Romero made

879
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: him Luke and then you know, probably played a big

880
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: part in breaking him unfortunately. So I think talent versus talent,

881
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: Whitaker wins this all day. He's gonna have to answer

882
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: some questions, but I think they're very answerable. He has

883
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: more in the bank from you know, reputation, credibility wise

884
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: for us, I think to believe and give him a

885
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 1: chance that we're going to see at least ninety percent

886
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: of what he was on this one. I think he

887
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: gets back to that Adisania title rematch no matter what.

888
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: And to your point, Luke, it's gonna be a much

889
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: different fight. I think it's gonna be a five round

890
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: like classic chess match. It can be an absolutely incredible fight.

891
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: He's got to get through Till to get there. But

892
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: I've never been a big Till guy. And uh really,

893
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: you know, good good Gastoline win. But you know we

894
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: can go back on the tape to the MMA beat days.

895
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: I told you straight up, well, he's gonna knock this

896
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: guy out. He's not of this ilk. He didn't beat

897
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 1: Stephen Thompson. They rushed him in there because they thought

898
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: he was the next Connor in terms of marketable European guy.

899
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: I give him credit for going to a new division

900
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: and settling nicely, but he doesn't seem to have, in

901
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: my opinion, those plus abilities to bring a fight to

902
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: the next level where he will need it to be

903
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: to win these against the very very elite.

904
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: Let me play Devil's advocate. You were not impressed with

905
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: some of the evolution in his game against Kelvin Gastolon.

906
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: I was, and That's where I give him credit for

907
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: establishing himself in this new weight class as a player,

908
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: which is why he could get this fight. I never

909
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: I don't think the guy's are fraud I just don't

910
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: see the upwards potential to actually win a title, you know,

911
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: especially at middleway, and be anything more than a really tough.

912
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 2: Out interesting all right. And then lastly, winner gets a

913
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: title shot, probably right. I mean, it wouldn't be much

914
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 2: of a run for Till. But if Till beats Gasolum

915
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: and Whittaker, you're like, well, I guess he has to

916
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 2: get it. There's still Jared Kennan here kind of floating

917
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 2: out there. I don't know what to do with him.

918
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: And then you've got Hermanson who won. So what is

919
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: your sense about what they do with the winner here?

920
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: And Whitaker? I would almost get like right back in there.

921
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think her Manson is is going to find

922
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: himself more than the Leon Edwards spot. You know, it

923
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: will still need to show you a little bit more,

924
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: but it's Whittaker. Ifew wins, Look, you know, Till has

925
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: a marketable side. I'm not going to say that wouldn't

926
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: be a fight they would make, but I wonder if

927
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 1: till one if they'd look at their options a little

928
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: bit more. I thought Gaslom could have been around there

929
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: if he had one. He didn't because you had the

930
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: built in rematch without Asania. But I want to see

931
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: when Canoneir comes back, because I think he is more

932
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: deserving than everyone else. Luke, and if Whitaker doesn't win

933
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: and Cannon their can get healthy and get back in there.

934
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: Maybe you make that fight.

935
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I suppose that you have to. We'll see. Okay, Well,

936
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 2: with that in mind, let's get to the part of

937
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 2: the show where the viewers BC or the listeners, depending

938
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 2: on how they consume this product, get to ask us questions.

939
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 2: It is time now for dms from all right, there

940
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 2: we have it. There you go. Every Sunday we put

941
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 2: up a post on Instagram at morning Combat and you

942
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 2: can check us out there. All right, I love this account. BC.

943
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 2: Do you know King of the Lifts the Instagram account?

944
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: No?

945
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: No, so they post is he of our ILK?

946
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: Is he one of us?

947
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 2: Yeah? So he's an MMA fan. Whoever runs it? I think

948
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 2: it's two guys. I'm not sure who runs the account,

949
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 2: but they it's a site, it's a YouTube channel. It's

950
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: a account and they do nothing but post mostly deadlift porn. Now,

951
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 2: not people banging each other doing the deadlift, but I mean, oh,

952
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: here's some ogre in the middle of a place where

953
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: Pizia Ivins are Yuki in aer from and he's doing

954
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: a am rap of seven seventy you know, hook grip,

955
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 2: and you watch that, and then they'll do guys, you know,

956
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 2: squatting seven hundred pounds in the warm up room at

957
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: the Olympics. It's fucking great. I love it anyway, he asks. BC.

958
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: Was Shudo's hiatus a stroke of genius to create super

959
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: fight options for him? He left, and now Flyway has

960
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: a champ and looks like a killer, and Yan and

961
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: the bantamweights can emerge the stars at the possible move

962
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: to featherweight, and so Hudo stepping back was great for

963
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 2: creating more big fight options. Or BC was Suhudo legit

964
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: and never looking to return to his previous weight classes.

965
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: What do you say.

966
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: I think, you know, just like we said back when

967
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: it happened. I think he took this retirement largely to

968
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: get out of the need to have to fight all

969
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 1: the next killers in line at bantamweight for the idea

970
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: of controlling his own future destiny with super fights. Yes,

971
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: but I also think the timing was key because no

972
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: live gates and no live gates expected when he made

973
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: that retirement out of nowhere seemed to justify why he'd

974
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: be like, you know, let's screw this. You know I'm

975
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 1: not gonna fight yan and and you know san Haig

976
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: and Sterling and all those guys for less money. Why

977
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: don't I get you know? Now, well, now we got

978
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: Abu Dhabi money, so now it's easier for him to

979
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: come back. And I think it really would just make

980
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: the most sense for to try to get Volkanovski in

981
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: that featherweight title beout. If you're really gonna try to

982
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: go al la Carte and pull a McGregor here, you

983
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: have nothing to gain by going back and fighting the

984
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: new champion in divisions that you've already conquered, unless those

985
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: new champions are just overwhelming future stars from a marketable

986
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 1: side where you're like, okay, you know me coming back

987
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: and facing them, we could do legitimate pay per view

988
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: numbers and make money. He can't do legitimate pay per

989
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: view numbers against against my guy Figuredo or against any

990
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 1: of the up and coming bandon weights. At the moment,

991
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: I think it has to be Vulcan Kanovsky or nothing.

992
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: They do have a problem that that featherweight division has loaded.

993
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: Alexander the Great said he doesn't want that fight. He

994
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: wants the real contenders in the division because he thinks

995
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: people will favor him because of the size. He would

996
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: take it if the money is there. Look, I could

997
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: see this being the type of fight that UFC would

998
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: want and would want to put the money there, because

999
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: uh Suhuto is so marketable. If somebody's got to be

1000
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: the first three division champion in UFC history, I always

1001
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 1: said it would be Connor that would get the first chance,

1002
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: and for all we know, we still may end up

1003
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: getting the first chance. But you know, Suhudo has surprised

1004
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: me at how much he could make himself known and

1005
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: how great he could get himself to be on a

1006
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: critical level that I could one hundred percent see the

1007
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: company doing that.

1008
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, you just got to call it like

1009
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 2: what it is. None of those fights are super fights

1010
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: in the sense of what Suhuto is looking for. All right,

1011
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: So let me give you an example. If he fights

1012
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 2: figuredout to your point, it's not gonna sell. It's a

1013
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: great fight, but it's not gonna sell. If he fights Yon,

1014
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: tremendous fight, it's not gonna sell. And if he fights

1015
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 2: Volkanoski's true in his fight. Why are we under the

1016
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 2: impression that that's going to sell. Volkanowski I don't think,

1017
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: to my knowledge, has ever headlined a pay per view

1018
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: as champion. I don't think he's headline of pay per

1019
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 2: view period. And so there's no clear telling exactly how

1020
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: big of a star he is. After the last win,

1021
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 2: there's a lot of people upset that he won at all,

1022
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 2: and Sahuda was up and coming as a star, but

1023
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 2: he hadn't crossed over. Now that fight is huge with

1024
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 2: historical significance, with the reasons you mentioned, and I think

1025
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 2: it is a big fight, certainly for inside the bubble

1026
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 2: hardcore fans. But does anyone really think that like Sahudo

1027
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 2: versus Volkanowski sells more than three hundred thousand buys? I

1028
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 2: just no, no.

1029
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: I think he put it in Australia, Luke, and you'd

1030
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: you'd make a giant gate on a full stadium and

1031
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 1: you'd do that. Decent pay per view numbers, not great

1032
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: pay per view numbers here, But you take the chance

1033
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: out of Shudo wins that maybe that boasts him up

1034
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 1: to another level, as you know, quadruple see or quintupples

1035
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: see or whatever he would call himself at that point.

1036
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, although if he gets waxed, which I think you

1037
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 2: probably would, then you're just like, oh, why do we

1038
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 2: make this fight? You know?

1039
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: Well, all right, couldn't so no, no, tell hold on,

1040
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: stay right here, park park park it Okay? Do you

1041
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: think so hudok wrestle with that guy?

1042
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 2: M not really, you know, and some say wrestle, we

1043
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: mean like in an mm A context.

1044
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: No, like like be able to win the fight by

1045
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: taking the fight to the ground more often than not.

1046
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 2: No, I think you might be able to get him

1047
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 2: down for a second, maybe once or twice, you know,

1048
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 2: But holding that guy down no, m M. I mean

1049
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 2: he could barely hold down Demetrius Johnson, you know. No,

1050
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 2: I just don't see that.

1051
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: Hey, my kids bought me. My kids surprised me with

1052
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: UFC three, the game from on Xbox one this past

1053
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: week this weekend, Luke.

1054
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you don't get enough m MA in your life,

1055
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: you don't have to play it as a video game.

1056
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: Oh I love it. I love it. Oh my god. Yeah,

1057
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,439
Speaker 1: doing a lot of, doing a lot of I'm gonna

1058
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: take Rose to the top. Okay, through through that, through

1059
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: that straweight killer division. Not on my right, okay, So

1060
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: from I'll play you online, Luke. Okay, I know you

1061
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: got some PC and we screwed up last week with

1062
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: the Mortal Kombat talk. You're playing eleven, I'm playing Xcel whatever.

1063
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 2: Okay, Shacker, you're playing the old hoopedie version and I'm

1064
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 2: playing the new hotness. All right. At Belly of Lead,

1065
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 2: John Jones just turned thirty three BC. Will he be

1066
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 2: a heavyweight champion by thirty five?

1067
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: Yes?

1068
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 2: Oh I say no.

1069
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: Yes, yes he will, do you think?

1070
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 2: So?

1071
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to get Arena's back. He'll come back,

1072
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: He'll he'll you know what, They're probably gonna have him

1073
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: rematch reyis be If he wins that, it's a tremendous win.

1074
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: You know, it's almost it's not ok it's not Ali like,

1075
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: but it would be like you know, older career John

1076
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: Jones had one close fight and then came back and

1077
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: figured out how to not make it close. It would

1078
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: be it would be great if he went to heavyweight

1079
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: from there. I'm saying it right now. I will favor

1080
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: even this early thirties version of John against every single

1081
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: heavyweight out there.

1082
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 2: At thirty five. I don't know. I don't know. I

1083
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 2: think John looks a lot different in two years. You know,

1084
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 2: at that point, he'll have been fighting for fourteen years

1085
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: in the UFC, you know, and I guess he's had

1086
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 2: some I guess he's had time off, so that's not

1087
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 2: quite true.

1088
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: But still he is, uh, you know, teflon John. He

1089
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: just seems to always find a way, Luke. Okay, although

1090
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: we did see that that booty call on the phone

1091
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: during the during the Albuquerque pullover. I know you don't

1092
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: want to act like it was there, but it was there, Luke.

1093
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 2: It's not that I don't want to act like it

1094
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 2: was there. I just don't care a right, like, Wow,

1095
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 2: do you care famous athletes want to get laid? I

1096
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 2: can't believe it.

1097
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: You know, Looke, do you care about this show at all?

1098
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: Because we did, you know, despite you just dropping a

1099
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 1: dugie and askar asker off, we did tease a big

1100
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 1: announcement here and we're we're like an hour we're into

1101
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: the show, and you're just like so hold on, we'll

1102
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 1: get to it at the end. Well, you know, now

1103
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: be that big anymore?

1104
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 2: So now it becomes relevant. All right, I'm at Telvin

1105
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:08,240
Speaker 2: Kippakill No Telvin Kipopa TRP, call QUESTBC or Beastie Boys.

1106
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 2: What do you think?

1107
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: That's not the question I see on the screen? All right?

1108
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 2: What do they have up there on a skip one?

1109
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,439
Speaker 2: Fuck it all right? Terrence Kronan, God, what a day

1110
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 2: if you could only watch Costa versus Izzy or Kuld

1111
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 2: be versus justin which one would you pick?

1112
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: Costa versus Izzy? But it's close. It's a flip them.

1113
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: I really think it's a flip them in terms of

1114
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: which one would I rather see? Which one would be

1115
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: more entertaining? Which one do I need to see the

1116
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: answers to? I think I need to see Habib justin

1117
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: a little bit more to find out. I want to

1118
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: find out if Geechee is of that ilk right, But

1119
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,399
Speaker 1: I think I'd get more entertainment out of Coastal walking

1120
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 1: them down.

1121
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 2: I tend to think I have a feeling that Nimberga

1122
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 2: made off and Gaeichee might end up being a better fight.

1123
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I don't know that, but

1124
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a part of me that feels

1125
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 2: like it's like, is justin the guy to beating Nimber Gamdoff.

1126
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I do you feel like he's

1127
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 2: the guy to like really kind of push him to

1128
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 2: his limits. I do think that is true. Uh. And

1129
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: at the same time, I think the same thing about

1130
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 2: Costa and Atasania. But I don't know, man, I don't know.

1131
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's a hard one. That's a hard one.

1132
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right?

1133
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 2: So then so then we go to Telvin Telvin Ki

1134
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 2: Papa Trycloal WESTBC or BC boy since I fucked it

1135
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 2: up before, all.

1136
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: Right, tribe call quest, Oh, I believe me. I love

1137
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,919
Speaker 1: me the Beastie Boys right that that new Sirius XM

1138
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: channel is pretty badass. And uh, I am a die

1139
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: hard check your head guy. I got all the albums,

1140
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: but I am a check your head guy to the

1141
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 1: to the nines. But uh, come on, the tribe, call

1142
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: quest to me for my rap taste. You know, I've

1143
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: had seasons in hip hop. I'm not some you know,

1144
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: all time historian and uh and yeah, I liked Hamilton,

1145
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 1: so f you Luke, but uh, you know the deal

1146
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: on this. The tribe is the most sophisticated, the fusion

1147
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: of jazz, the uh, the two man MC interplay between them.

1148
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 1: I mean that's you talk about dance partners right Israel

1149
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: and in Costa like put Q tip in in in

1150
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 1: uh in Fife together. It's I mean, you're on point

1151
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: tip all all the freaking time Fife all right, Like, yeah,

1152
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: I got I own every album. They're the greatest. Okay

1153
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: to me for my tastes, they're my favorite hip hop

1154
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: outfit of all time. I won't say they're the greatest,

1155
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: but they're they're my favorite of all time.

1156
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 2: I can get down with that completely triveclo quest to

1157
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 2: me is far and away better. Can I tell you

1158
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,919
Speaker 2: something to BC, I realize what I'm about to say

1159
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 2: is blasphemous. All I can do is just tell you

1160
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 2: I feel this way. I've tried to listen to the

1161
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 2: Beastie Boys.

1162
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: I can't, dude, Okay, no, hold on a second, Hold

1163
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: on a second. What and when you say I've tried

1164
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: to listen to them? What? What albums have you invested

1165
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: in under what circumstances?

1166
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 2: Okay, So, first of all, you have different you have

1167
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 2: different you have different phases.

1168
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 1: No, I let me spit this out. I'm not saying

1169
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm k Casum or Kurt Loder here, but you you're

1170
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 1: walking thin ice for your musical taste over the history

1171
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: of this show, you recognize good shit. Okay, but can

1172
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: you hear Jimmy, I don't know because of this cannibal

1173
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: nonsense to speak to me here. Okay.

1174
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 2: So first of all, I just want to remind you

1175
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,479
Speaker 2: we are in complete lockstaff with a trip called Quest

1176
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 2: number one, number two. And I recognize I'm totally outvoted

1177
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 2: on this. I get it one thousand percent. And the

1178
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 2: Beastie Boys evolved over time, so you have like the

1179
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 2: early party vast Boys were quite literally you gotta fight

1180
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 2: for your ats a party, no sleep till Brooklyn Brass Monkey,

1181
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 2: that kind of a thing, right, Yeah, Paul's Boutique.

1182
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: One of the greatest albums of all time. Put that

1183
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: on tomorrow, you won't be upset, Luke.

1184
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,439
Speaker 2: I understand. Rick Ruben has a big influence as well.

1185
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 2: And then they got into like in the mid nineties,

1186
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 2: they got into more sort of I don't know what

1187
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 2: I would describe the style, but sort of emblematic through sabotage,

1188
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 2: you know, yes, which is big, and then they ended

1189
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 2: up in some kind of like playful place in the

1190
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: end of their career as well. I recognize people love them.

1191
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 2: I recognize that evolved. I recognized they were outspoken about

1192
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 2: Tibetan freedom. I get all of that. I don't hate

1193
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 2: them to Tibet. I don't hate them. I'm just trying

1194
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 2: to tell you every time I turn them on, how

1195
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 2: do I explain this? It's like, I, I just don't

1196
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 2: feel anything. People like, yeah, don't you feel how cool?

1197
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 2: I don't feel anything. And that's the problem.

1198
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: Okay, look, you want to be really honest, you want

1199
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: to be really blunt. Are they overrated historically? Yes? But

1200
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: I still get down with them. I mean, you know,

1201
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: license to ill. I mean, like I said, check your

1202
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: head when they're playing their own instruments live, which led

1203
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: to the you know, the evolution into like the sabotage

1204
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 1: stuff you're mentioning, Like they've evolved over time. They prove

1205
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: to be an important not a novelty act that has

1206
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: you know, changed with the times. But they're you know,

1207
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: they're they're also not like luke Let's Can we be

1208
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,720
Speaker 1: honest about Nirvana two. Nirvana was part of a giant

1209
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 1: shift from you know, metal into grunge, and they were

1210
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: the fore run and they were freaking brilliant. But if

1211
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: Cobain didn't die, then they wouldn't be up there in

1212
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: that upper table. I'm telling you, I'm telling you that.

1213
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so let's bring okay, okay, so hold on,

1214
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 2: So let's bring in. Here's the big reveal. It's producer Jay. Jay.

1215
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 2: What do you make of our Beastie boys take, at

1216
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 2: least my bast Boys take? And what about the hot

1217
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 2: take from BC on Nirvana?

1218
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, as a member of the tribe,

1219
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 3: you know, BC boys are good.

1220
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: There's one of the small things that anyone's done for us.

1221
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 2: So beast Boys are in.

1222
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 3: But I appreciate the hot take Nirvana is amazing because

1223
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 3: Cobain died before thirty and he still had a lifetimes

1224
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 3: catalog where the amazing music that still plays today.

1225
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: So that take is that's trash? No, that tape is

1226
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: is that take? The no escape of boy bands? Right there? Jay?

1227
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: By the way, how do we bear? Wow? Jay? Screen

1228
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: getting bigger? Har's are you?

1229
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 2: You know?

1230
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: You wait? The whole show you shoulit on, askarov you

1231
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: protect This is a big moment in the history of

1232
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: this show. Jay the producer has a voice.

1233
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, here's the deal. He already he already violated it.

1234
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 2: He is not supposed to speak until spoken to. And

1235
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 2: then he was chiming in my f and ear like

1236
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 2: a dog. So he's already on thin ice with this thing.

1237
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, however, BC shot on Drmana, so you know

1238
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 2: it had to be on.

1239
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: This is a man who once hit a spinning back

1240
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: kick on your Ryah Hall and dropped him. Okay, so

1241
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: here's the deal. I thought for Jay to get his

1242
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: voice heard, because you know this is this is either

1243
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: going to be the best decision we've ever made in

1244
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: the show's history or a one week you know, try

1245
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: out here, Luke. But you have you know, shatiff on

1246
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: him many times in history, and he's never had a

1247
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: chance to defend himself. And the commenters for you know,

1248
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: years months have said, you know, I don't want to

1249
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: hear these fake conversations. I don't even know if Jay's real, Like,

1250
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: give us, give us something.

1251
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: So there it is.

1252
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: There's the back of Jay's head. Okay, turns out.

1253
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 3: All I needed was a microphone for nineteen ninety five.

1254
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 2: Yes, there you are, and there you go, never to

1255
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 2: be seen again. All right, last question at Mt Booble.

1256
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:07,919
Speaker 2: If you were to end up on have you seen

1257
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 2: This s? How much alcohol would be involved in? What

1258
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 2: scenario do you envision taking place? Oh geez, that's such.

1259
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: A loaded and right question because we are in that era, Luke,

1260
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: where like think about it? You know, Look, you could

1261
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: piss a fighter off in this game by accident, you know,

1262
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: and they Perry told me, you know, he sent me

1263
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: the hell on my own podcast. I could get Mike

1264
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: perried one day like that old guy did at that bar,

1265
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: and somebody's gonna capture it on a cell phone to

1266
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: put it out there.

1267
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 2: Right, Luke.

1268
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: You could go out with your college buddies from William

1269
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: and Mary one night and just drink, you know, way

1270
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: too many vodka and Cranberry's and you know, and relive

1271
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: the old days and end up drinking and end up

1272
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: going streaking in uh where are you Williamsburg, Virginia? There?

1273
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: And suddenly you're on this damn show and you lost

1274
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: your job, And I mean it can happen, Luke. I'm

1275
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: glad that we did our craziness right before social media

1276
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: and good cameras took over. But if you or I

1277
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,439
Speaker 1: were to appear on this in a very unflattering light,

1278
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: I would have to guess alcohol and nudity would be involved.

1279
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 2: There'd be a that's not me. It would be shoplifting, shoplifting.

1280
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 2: I used to get hammered and go shoplifting. Do you

1281
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 2: guys have wah wah up in uh Up in Connecticut?

1282
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: No, we don't. I know of the legend. I'm more

1283
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: of a sheet skuy Pennsylvania area.

1284
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 2: But it's basically the south of the Mason Dixon line sheets. Altho,

1285
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 2: there're sheets done here too, But yes, more or less,

1286
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 2: that's what wa wai is.

1287
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: Why was huge in Jersey huge?

1288
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 2: OK? So if you don't know who WAA is or

1289
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 2: what it is, it's basically when these gas stations, it's

1290
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 2: like kind of nice for a gas station, and they

1291
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 2: have a kitchen in there where these screens, and you

1292
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 2: can go and punch up like a sub sandwich you want.

1293
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 2: You get to pick every little piece or they've got

1294
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 2: like macaroni dishes or whatever. Everything's made to order, and

1295
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 2: then you know they have nice everything's clean, you know, dude.

1296
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. I used to go and

1297
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 2: already order like party orders worth of subs and then

1298
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 2: and then just dip out the front door when I

1299
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 2: was hammered, running like the hamburglar from the nearest McDonald's

1300
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 2: bro And there was one time I got real bold.

1301
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 2: I'll never forget this, I'll never forget this. I think

1302
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 2: I ordered like four meatball subs. Why, I don't know, right,

1303
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: I popped a couple Snickers inside the what were we

1304
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 2: wearing in the two thousands BC, the pants with the

1305
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 2: pockets on the side, cargo pants?

1306
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, you gotta have the zipper around the

1307
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: kneecap too.

1308
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, So dump dump a couple of the Snickers

1309
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 2: king sizes in the old cargo pants and as soon

1310
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 2: as they come up walk just grab all the subs,

1311
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 2: and on the way out, I scooped up a twenty

1312
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 2: four pack like I was, you know, throwing a ball

1313
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 2: down or a bowl that, you know, the bowling ball

1314
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 2: down the alley of gatorade on the way out the

1315
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 2: front door, and just ran out like supermarket sweeps. Bitch

1316
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 2: I would do that. They must have thought I was

1317
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 2: the fucking Billy the kid of just shoplifting at fucking

1318
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 2: huah wah because I can't go back there ever, So yes,

1319
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 2: I stole a lot from wahwah. Sorry.

1320
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting that you would say something like that

1321
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: where because there's times where I'm at like the mall,

1322
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: and my kids just do something to really piss me off,

1323
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: and I just snap at an unnatural level and I go,

1324
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: oh wait, you know I do have like that level

1325
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: of celebrity, meaning there could be one person in this

1326
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: building who knows who I am, and they could get

1327
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: the cell phone cam of me, like picking my nose.

1328
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: Why I elbow my kid in the face. I'm always

1329
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: waiting for that to happen.

1330
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 2: Well, I haven't done this in a while. I mean

1331
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 2: it's been you know, a decade or more since I've shoplifted,

1332
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 2: but I'll just say this. You know, I've had these

1333
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 2: moments where I shoplifted food and then woke up in

1334
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 2: my college dorm like uh, and then there's like there's

1335
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 2: you know, meatball subs and cool ranch Dorito's all over

1336
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 2: me and I'm wearing older Yeah. Yeah, you know, it's

1337
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 2: like why did I get How did I get a

1338
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 2: pack of you know Newport one hundreds. Where the fuck

1339
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 2: did these come from? I've had that.

1340
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 1: That's lou Pearlman here. Why am i the fourth member

1341
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: of No Escape? What is happening right now?

1342
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 2: Why does my butt hurt? That seems weird?

1343
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 3: Uh?

1344
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 2: Okay, with that in mind, let's go now to me

1345
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 2: with perfect intro BC, why does my butt hurt? Take

1346
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 2: it away?

1347
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: Yes? We uh, let's let's do it.

1348
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 2: Uh.

1349
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: Here's what we do. We searched the globe, high and low,

1350
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 1: the best, the worst, the good, the bad, and the

1351
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: ugly in combat sports and beyond is have you seen

1352
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 1: this shit? And we got a loaded addition this week? Luke,

1353
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: buckle up, get ready. We always start out with legitimate killings. Right,

1354
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 1: let's go to one championship. Did you see this insane

1355
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: push kick? Ko Luke? And why is that man dressed

1356
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 1: in a diaper? What is happening here?

1357
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 2: God?

1358
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: Damn?

1359
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 2: Did he beat him like he was insulted? He was

1360
01:03:58,840 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 2: fighting him?

1361
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Like that's like, uh, you know Silva

1362
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 1: belfour on steroids that finish right there?

1363
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, bop jab bop.

1364
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: Oh god, you can get diaper rash from that kind

1365
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 1: of finish. That's great, right there. All right, Hey, Luke,

1366
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: we teased it earlier. Let's go to UFC Abu Dhabi.

1367
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 1: Our guy Raphael Fizev Phyziv pulled out this matrix ish

1368
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:27,959
Speaker 1: that a lot of people are talking about. Took both

1369
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 1: the red and the blue pill. Luke, I don't know

1370
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: if you remember on this segment we've done a kickboxing one.

1371
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 2: Just like this.

1372
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: Turns out it's the same guy Phyziv. You remember that

1373
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 1: a couple months ago?

1374
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 2: I guess I didn't, But now as you mentioned it

1375
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 2: sort of rings a bell. Yeah, dude, what kind of.

1376
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: Core strength do you need to do this and not

1377
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: end up on a stretcher?

1378
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 2: Oh? And balance and everything else that is and reflexes

1379
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 2: that is. He is ridiculous. He's a A plus athlete.

1380
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 1: Absolutely ridiculous, Luke. In the hangover of UFC two point

1381
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: fifty one, maz Vidal usman a lot of people sending

1382
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: me these Zuppruter pictures. I want you to zoom in

1383
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: here and check out Ousmann. What is his intention here? Bro?

1384
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: What are we doing here? You know? Is he saying, basically,

1385
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: hey Jorge, if you got a big let me search it.

1386
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 1: Is that? What's happening here.

1387
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 2: Uh, that's interesting. I thought you didn't. Didn't didn't Jorge

1388
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 2: accuse him being a crotch sniffer, not a you know,

1389
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 2: other form of cross touching.

1390
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 1: It's very crocodile dundee like. Remember he was unaware of

1391
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 1: that person sex, so he just found out the uh

1392
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 1: illegal way.

1393
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 2: Ah, yes, casual transphobia.

1394
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: Yes that well, look it's a dated scene. We don't

1395
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 1: live our life or a world lin go thank you.

1396
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: All right, Hey, let's go to one of our favorite

1397
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: viewers at Brantendo sixty four underscore on Twitter, Luke. He

1398
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 1: purchased the Morning Combat mug and he came out to

1399
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 1: do his Luke impression. This is well done.

1400
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 2: It's pretty good. I have to admit. I showed it

1401
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 2: to my wife even she said it was pretty good.

1402
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 1: Shout out to this guy. Apparently he's like a professional

1403
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: video game player streamer or maybe I don't know, can

1404
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 1: you go professional in that? I don't know, but you know,

1405
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: we by the way he looks, he looks fifteen, he

1406
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: might be. He might be. I wouldn't take him as

1407
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: a candidate to steal my kidney and have me wake

1408
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: up in the tub behind you after with four meatball

1409
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 1: subs all over me.

1410
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 2: He looks like one of our more normal Yeah, he's

1411
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 2: definitely more normal. And he has a nice setup too.

1412
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 2: He's got the purple lighting in the background, but then

1413
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 2: he's got the regular lighting on his face. He kind

1414
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 2: of knows what he's doing with the camera. There could work.

1415
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: I'm sure he can figure out how I can play

1416
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 1: UFC three against you online.

1417
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 2: Luke. You should play UFC three against this guy, and

1418
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 2: when he wrecks your shit completely like Figuredo did to Benavidez,

1419
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 2: you should play it on the show.

1420
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm in on that. All right. Let's go to

1421
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 1: the concerts scene. I think this is a cannibal corpse concert.

1422
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 1: Sometimes people have great ideas. They want to be part

1423
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,040
Speaker 1: of things they wanted. They want to stage dive. I

1424
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: want to get their friends around to help them out.

1425
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 2: Here.

1426
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 1: Plenty of seats still available at this Call my god, Luke.

1427
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 2: Base playing Holy shit, not a cannibal corpse concert. I

1428
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 2: can tell you that.

1429
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you ever stage dive, Luke? No, not stage sorry, CrowdSurf.

1430
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: Have you ever crowdsurfed?

1431
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 2: No? I was always too big for that shit because

1432
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 2: I got a.

1433
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: Fact I dropped on my head at a three eleven

1434
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 1: show in nineteen ninety seven when he was surfing. That

1435
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 1: was not fun.

1436
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 2: That's but that's karma. That's that's what you get for

1437
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 2: going to a three to eleven show.

1438
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 1: I always felt bad for I know that. You know,

1439
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 1: I always felt bad for the chicks who would CrowdSurf

1440
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 1: in the nineties because they just get looted. Luke, you

1441
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 1: know it's ridiculous. In fact, let's go to a superstar.

1442
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 1: This is from two thousand and nine and this is

1443
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: Beyonce in London. She's got a lot of balls to

1444
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: try this, because you know, I could go to a

1445
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: Beyonce concert and take home a poster or a T shirt.

1446
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: I could also grab them biscuits like a lot of

1447
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: these guys are doing. Does jay Z know about this?

1448
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 2: Oh man, Yeah, I don't recommend that. I don't recommend

1449
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 2: that now, Like, hey, you wanted front row, that's what

1450
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 2: you get.

1451
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 1: That's what Gallagher used to say.

1452
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 2: Luke.

1453
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 1: Uh, speaking of that, let's check out this throwback nineties

1454
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 1: NHL clip. Certainly these fans will never buy front row

1455
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: tickets again. In fact, they may they may be blinded

1456
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 1: by this. Luke, Yes, incredible that's.

1457
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 2: Like when that was like rose when Connor threw the

1458
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 2: dolly at the bus window.

1459
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that was ray Borg. Sorry, sorry for your

1460
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 1: uh yeah, fucked his eyes up. Yeah, yep.

1461
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 2: Have you ever had by the way, have you ever

1462
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 2: sat like in those seats at a hockey game?

1463
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 1: No, I've sat I've felt legit front row at a

1464
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 1: Celtics Knicks game in two thousand and one under the hoop,

1465
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 1: like directly next to the support.

1466
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 2: That was pretty bad, as I've been on the wood

1467
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 2: for uh for a Wizard's game. But that's not a

1468
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 2: big deal. But the Caps tickets are always so fucking

1469
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 2: expensive because it's a good team. It's impossible seems to

1470
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 2: like seven hundred of pop. I'm not spending fourteen hundred

1471
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 2: dollars so me and my wife can go watch Ovechkin

1472
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 2: board check. You know, I don't know of getting mulking

1473
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 2: or some shit.

1474
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 1: No, we're not in for that ship. All right. Hey,

1475
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 1: let's keep it moving here. Uh it's a birthday time

1476
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 1: and uh let's bring out the adult piniata Luke. The's

1477
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: always and bad, let's be honest, right, somebody always takes

1478
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 1: it to the pills here.

1479
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 2: Uh. Oh, Jesus.

1480
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 1: This guy a little wreckley. Oh gol golf. I mean,

1481
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 1: that's what you get for wearing jorts, Luke, I think,

1482
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 1: but what is happening here?

1483
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 2: Both of these zeros wearing jorts?

1484
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 1: Oh?

1485
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 2: We right to them?

1486
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: Yeah? Did it?

1487
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 2: Did it occur to nobody that your two sticks here

1488
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 2: in this particular case are the same effing length. And

1489
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 2: by the way, as you stand up now, your eyes

1490
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 2: are face level with his balls. Yeah, these idiots.

1491
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 1: That's stick on stick right there. Wow, it really is,

1492
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: speaking of that gross stuff, it's tip on tip time, Luke. Look,

1493
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 1: I know that people, you know, they ca rives us

1494
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 1: as as the as the people who've carried this along.

1495
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 1: But check out Mark Hamill and and Han Solo here,

1496
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: Harrison Ford, Luke, I didn't know they were one of us.

1497
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 2: So who do you think was? Who did you like

1498
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 2: more as a kid? Han Solo or Luke Skywalker.

1499
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 1: Luke Skywalker, the most badass hit character in Star Wars

1500
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 1: history is still Return of the Jedi episode six full

1501
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: black Skywalker going into Jaba's floating casino thing. Yeah.

1502
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 2: No, Luke Skywalker was a whiny bitch.

1503
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 1: He was like a teen and he lost his family

1504
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 1: give him a chance. He matured into Okay, he became

1505
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 1: a whiny bitch again as an old guy. You're right,

1506
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: but in between in his prime give me prime.

1507
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 2: Scot at the end of Empire strikes back, he's talking

1508
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 2: like he had a stroke with you know, out the

1509
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 2: side of his mouth. Dude, they cut off.

1510
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 1: Off his hand. This is like the Thomas life saga

1511
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 1: right here, right, No.

1512
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 2: He was a whiney shithead. The best character and all

1513
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 2: of Star Wars is Chewbacca number one, and then number two,

1514
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 2: it's Darth Vader. That's it. That's your that's your power rankings.

1515
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 1: You gotta have Solo up pretty high there though.

1516
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he was Chewy's friend. But I always was

1517
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 2: a I was this is a pro Chewbacca household. I

1518
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 2: have a Chewedbacca doll right here.

1519
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: I thought you pointed to your beard. I was gonna say,

1520
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: are you are you?

1521
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 2: Are you? Very?

1522
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 3: Uh?

1523
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:24,640
Speaker 1: Shout out to the wookies there from Kashik with that

1524
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 1: of facial hair.

1525
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,679
Speaker 2: Listen, It's like Vinnie Pass says, big guns, big beards,

1526
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 2: a bunch of chew bacchas. That's who I run with,

1527
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 2: all right, Okay, Well, speaking of Tip, on tip.

1528
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 1: It also goes for padres fans. Check out these MLB

1529
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 1: diehards they got on the big screen. Look, they start dancing.

1530
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 1: We've all done this at a pro game, but not

1531
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 1: a lot of us. Turn toward each other and go

1532
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 1: tea on teetering it. Check this out.

1533
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got nothing going like of course, you don't

1534
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 2: worry about doing this when you have no job to

1535
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 2: show up to the next day.

1536
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 1: We don't have audio, but it's gotta be uh cotton

1537
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 1: eyed Joe by the Rednecks playing right cotton not yeah,

1538
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 1: red cotton now Joe?

1539
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 2: Yeah? Or the uh it's blue daba d that one.

1540
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 2: That one might get you up on your feet a

1541
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 2: little bit.

1542
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 1: That is great, all right, Hey, the tip to tip

1543
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,679
Speaker 1: don't stop. Let's take it to the golf course. Check

1544
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: out these two friends. They're gonna lock their tips together

1545
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 1: and hit a big pot here duo style tiger on sixteen.

1546
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:31,560
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, that was fantastic.

1547
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 2: Is this where they bang each other?

1548
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 1: I was gonna say when the camera ends, I'm sure

1549
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: they make out afterwards, but uh luke, if you and

1550
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 1: I ever go golfing, we we have to we have

1551
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: to nail this, Okay, we have to do it.

1552
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 3: We have to.

1553
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 2: I agree, I'm not much of it. I don't know

1554
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 2: a whole lot about putting, but I'll give it the

1555
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 2: old college try.

1556
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 1: But look at the Look at the read on that

1557
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: and the curve. That's that's great.

1558
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 2: Only only if we go shoplifting in the pro store

1559
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 2: before we leave.

1560
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm in. I'm in on that. We'll end up on

1561
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 1: this segment we know, with Jay as the new host

1562
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 1: with the schmoe. All right, here we go a real

1563
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 1: knockout here. Check this out. It's a promotion in the

1564
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 1: UK called uc MMA. This is Mike Schreder Garrett. I

1565
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 1: think he sent that man to hell in two seconds.

1566
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 1: Jorge mos Vidal take a step back and look.

1567
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 2: At the weird ass dance after Yeah, what is that dance?

1568
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:19,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. Is he like climbing a fit? I

1569
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 1: don't know what is he doing? But that's impressive. Is

1570
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 1: that the fastest knockout you've ever seen?

1571
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 2: Luke, that's up there, that's up there.

1572
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 1: Shout out to Shredder. They're probably a big Ninja Turtles fan.

1573
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, hey, let's move on here. You know

1574
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 1: these halftime skits they do at NBA games to keep

1575
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 1: people and this is called Bildeberger couples only. I'm kind

1576
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 1: of aroused by this, Luke, and I don't think that's

1577
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 1: Mayo on there.

1578
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:49,639
Speaker 2: You are an absolutely disgusting creatures.

1579
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 1: Are you saying that you in the spicy Missus Thomas

1580
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 1: when you go to a wizard's game and try this?

1581
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 2: You think my wife would let me do some dumb

1582
01:13:59,160 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 2: shit like this.

1583
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 1: I don't know her well enough.

1584
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 2: You know, you and me might do this, and then

1585
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 2: my wife will have divorce papers ready for me when

1586
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 2: I leave the arena.

1587
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 1: She could be the beef in an MK sandwich? Is

1588
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 1: that where you're going with this?

1589
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:14,839
Speaker 2: No, she is not. She is the fucking divorce papers

1590
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:16,520
Speaker 2: and a failure sandwich.

1591
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 1: And probably attempt to kick your ass. How is her

1592
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 1: functional Jesuites?

1593
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 2: It's pretty good. Actually, she has a really good cross joke.

1594
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 2: She has a very good cross joke.

1595
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 1: I've never said that about my wife. Hey, you know

1596
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 1: she's a good cook. Pretty damn good cross choke too, Hey, Luke,

1597
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 1: Speaking of fast food, check out this sneaky exit and

1598
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 1: a dunkin Donuts fight. Look, sometimes she will break down

1599
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 1: and if you got to get out of there, get

1600
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 1: out of there, Luke. See look, this is where the

1601
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 1: COVID mandates actually save somebody. Luke, you gotta be down

1602
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:45,560
Speaker 1: for this, you know what.

1603
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:47,679
Speaker 2: But they're not wearing face mask to BC. These people

1604
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 2: obviously don't care. Wow, you know, bro, she that is

1605
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:56,719
Speaker 2: a you know what. I don't even blame her. It's like, listen,

1606
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 2: we exchanged a little bit on the feet. I stood

1607
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 2: my ground. I realized this was going to go south.

1608
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 2: I decided to get the fuck out.

1609
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 1: You know what. Yeah, somebody, I gotta get a dunk

1610
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 1: of China and get out of here. Yeah.

1611
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is not going to go my way. Let's

1612
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 2: just get out of here, Luke.

1613
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 1: Do they have dunkin Donuts in your area?

1614
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:17,600
Speaker 2: Do they have dunkin Donuts in DC? I don't know,

1615
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 2: not many if they do.

1616
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 1: When you go out for coffee, do you hit a

1617
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,640
Speaker 1: chain or you more of like some Vietnam veter on

1618
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 1: the corner who has like a little place of his own.

1619
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 2: I usually try to go for there's a there's a

1620
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 2: Korean coffee shop I like to go to that's got

1621
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 2: really good, very coffee, very cultured. Luke Thomas, You're you know, listen,

1622
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:41,600
Speaker 2: the service is great places, well maintained. They're friendly and

1623
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 2: they make a mean cup of Joe and I don't

1624
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 2: have to watch All Lives Matter here, you know, jump

1625
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 2: under the COVID window to get away from whatever the

1626
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 2: hell she said here.

1627
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 1: Leave Karen alone? All right, all right, let's move on.

1628
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:57,639
Speaker 1: It's time for famous athletes doing weird things with animals. Hey, Luke,

1629
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 1: this is on beating unified Junior welterweight champion in the

1630
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 1: red shirt Josh Taylor, the Tartan Tornado of Scotland. He's

1631
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 1: about to get a kiss from a rose here on

1632
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 1: this seal. Would you try this, Luke?

1633
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 2: Would you be done for that? It wasn't that furious?

1634
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 1: Former trainer Yes, yes. Ben Davidson, who is now Taylor's

1635
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 1: new trainer, Oh wow, called him off guard. He tweeted out,

1636
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 1: I shot a brick when this happened.

1637
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 2: All right, I'm not really into I don't I'm not

1638
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 2: really into like making animals do shit like this. Yes,

1639
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:31,640
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like I watched the Blackfish thing.

1640
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen the Blackfish documentary?

1641
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 1: No?

1642
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't, you know. I mean, this seal looks

1643
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 2: like he's not suffering exactly but I like it when

1644
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, bear at Russian Zoo, Maul's entire staff,

1645
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, that's the shit.

1646
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Josh Taylor doing his best Heidi Klume

1647
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 1: imitation right here with this seal. Hey, let's roll on.

1648
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 1: Here's UFC heavyweight al Alexi o'lennyk. We know him for

1649
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 1: that what bowlckin stricter choke. Just effing around with snakes.

1650
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 1: I mean, if look, if if you're that that weird,

1651
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:02,600
Speaker 1: you can probably safely.

1652
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 2: Pull this off, right You ever held a snake like that?

1653
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:10,480
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm not going to I've held a mini alligator.

1654
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 1: You know. I've touched snakes at petting situations at zoos.

1655
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 1: But I ain't doing this, Luke.

1656
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 2: You I've done this. Yeah, I've done the one where

1657
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 2: you put the giant snake around your neck. I've done

1658
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 2: that bit.

1659
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:25,679
Speaker 1: That's not fun. That's not fun. It's like here, let's

1660
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:28,640
Speaker 1: do a simulated guillotine here, off with their heads and

1661
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 1: the blade will stop which one.

1662
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 2: By the way, I did that before. I hadn't, you know,

1663
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 2: I realized that animals are a friend, so I wouldn't

1664
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:35,640
Speaker 2: do it now. But I have done it.

1665
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, Hey, let's end with this in terms

1666
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 1: of the athletes and the animals. Unified welterweight champion Errol

1667
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 1: Spence tweeted out Recta Ferrari bought a horse hashtag country shit. Luke,

1668
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 1: do you give him credit for, you know, making light

1669
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 1: of his own personal setbacks and no getting out there

1670
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 1: and enjoying nature during the quarantine.

1671
01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 2: No, but you know what he sing out of trouble.

1672
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 2: The horse looks like it's well maintained, and uh, you know,

1673
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 2: so badass, look right sitting on top of a horse

1674
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 2: like that. That's a hey.

1675
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 1: Canelo rides bareback on the on the ocean all the time.

1676
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 1: He always puts those videos. I remember we saw Aaron

1677
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 1: Pico with that horse he had that.

1678
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 2: You gotta be careful. You gotta be careful when you

1679
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 2: use language like Canelo rides beaarback in the ocean. You

1680
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 2: have to clarify exactly what that means.

1681
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 1: It's twenty twenty, Luke. Okay, thank you, all right, let's

1682
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 1: get out of here. Hey, speaking of guillotine chokes, sometimes

1683
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:35,639
Speaker 1: great fights happen in public. The vagabond looking guy spit

1684
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 1: at the larger fellow.

1685
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 2: I've actually seen this. I've actually seen Have.

1686
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 1: You ever choked a man out of his clothing? Luke?

1687
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 2: Yo? They they there's a line that I can't say

1688
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 2: from Slim Thug, but it's the ending is that he

1689
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 2: basically his triggers blow people out of their shoes and socks.

1690
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 2: This dude choked my man out of his out of

1691
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 2: his pants, just like wh.

1692
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 1: Yep, we got hy standards. Nobody's stepping in. No heroes there, Luke, Okay,

1693
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 1: I throw that body aside there, thinks just that's.

1694
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 2: How I mean. That dude, he threw that on the

1695
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 2: He threw that man on the ground like I threw

1696
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,440
Speaker 2: out my mattress in college filled with bedbugs.

1697
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:15,720
Speaker 1: Well there's more than bedbugs there. Look all right, but

1698
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 1: yeah that's pretty violent. I don't know if I'm go

1699
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 1: look he spin on them? What do you expect? Okay?

1700
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 2: So here's the deal. So people were asking like, well,

1701
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 2: what's your favorite street fight story? And I've tried to

1702
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 2: get you to watch mine. I saw one of the

1703
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 2: DC Metro that was pretty incredible. But in it BC

1704
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 2: I talked about rules for street fights and which is

1705
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:34,839
Speaker 2: when will I intervene and when will I not intervene

1706
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 2: When do you intervene here?

1707
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 1: When he when it's clear that he knows what he's

1708
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 1: doing with that choke and that he and certainly after

1709
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 1: he puts him to sleep. I mean, look, I try,

1710
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 1: I'll try to diffuse the situation publicly unless or even

1711
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 1: you know, yeah whatever, unless I think I could get,

1712
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:54,640
Speaker 1: you know, badly caught in the crossfire here. But if

1713
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna third world another mfort, I might just get

1714
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 1: out of the way.

1715
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 2: Luke, Okay, yeah, I mean look again, all lives matter

1716
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 2: here takes a bit of an l It's like, don't

1717
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 2: spit on the gentleman who appears to be uh four

1718
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 2: four and a half times your size and doesn't suffer

1719
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 2: your shit.

1720
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 1: Kid, rock Oh, meth is a hell of a drug, Luke,

1721
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 1: it is all right, Hey, Luke, let's roll on here.

1722
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 1: We've got a couple more bros will be bros during cookout, Sisson.

1723
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 1: Check out this flying crossbody. Look the first guy that

1724
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 1: passes out at a party. You know, if there's a

1725
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 1: lot of shirtless white guys, weird things are gonna happen.

1726
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 1: But this is pretty cool. Here he takes the Nestley

1727
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 1: Plunge on his buddy there. Just look, don't pass out.

1728
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 1: That's the rule. Look when I'm out with you know,

1729
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 1: when I'm out with my boys shirtless with the white claws,

1730
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:45,680
Speaker 1: don't pass out first, all right, I am.

1731
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 2: I was prepared to shit on this All Lives Matter

1732
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:52,839
Speaker 2: party have to tell you, all right, I have to tell.

1733
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,719
Speaker 1: That too far. Because they're white, they're racists.

1734
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 2: Come on, I'm just I'm just doing Listen. Can you

1735
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 2: can you laugh at yourself a little bit there? Why

1736
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 2: don't you be more upsited?

1737
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:01,639
Speaker 1: Travis?

1738
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 2: Hold on? Hold on? Just yeah, be more uptight about

1739
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:06,599
Speaker 2: the jokes that I obviously I am not sincere about.

1740
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I think this is hilarious and I

1741
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 2: have wanted to do this to my friends all day.

1742
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 2: You can't be a white guy in your twenties and

1743
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 2: have a friendship that doesn't involve hurting your friends physically.

1744
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, now drawing a dong on their forehead with

1745
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 1: a marker. I'm not really I wouldn't go that far.

1746
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 2: Luke, Okay, right, yeah, well I've done that too.

1747
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 1: But hey, Luke, you ever try to slap your buddy's

1748
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 1: ass at a Turkish bath and uh and have this happen. Look,

1749
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:37,680
Speaker 1: can we get to the bottom of this? I know

1750
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 1: we see it in movies. Sometimes people say that they're

1751
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 1: still around. What is the uh? Why would people want

1752
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 1: to go to a public all male bath why?

1753
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 2: So Okay, I've been to Turkey and my wife was like,

1754
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 2: why don't you do this? And I was like, I

1755
01:21:56,760 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 2: don't have any desire to sweat around harry male strangers

1756
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 2: with little to no clothing. What about this experience is

1757
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 2: supposed to be relaxing.

1758
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, go to the locker room at your gym. You'll

1759
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 1: see a lot of hairy, sweaty old guys with their

1760
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 1: balls dragging on the ground. Yeah.

1761
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well these guys at least aren't wearing their dress shoes,

1762
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 2: which apparently old men forget. Your underwear goes on before

1763
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 2: your pants and then your socks, or you could do underwear,

1764
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:23,919
Speaker 2: socks then pants. They put on socks, shoes, then underwear

1765
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 2: or socks shoes, then shirt BC and then underwear or

1766
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:31,640
Speaker 2: they go zero to.

1767
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,639
Speaker 1: Dong just to shave their face. It's like, who who

1768
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 1: shaves their face for a half hour completely naked in public?

1769
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 1: Who would do that?

1770
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:42,720
Speaker 2: Yeah? These these jackasses? So no, I didn't go. They

1771
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 2: have these in Columbia too, BC. So when I go

1772
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 2: and visit my wife's in laws, they have these like

1773
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 2: baths like from you know, Turquia is what they call

1774
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 2: it basically, and it's supposed to be the exact same thing.

1775
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 2: And she's like, why don't you go? I'm like, did

1776
01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 2: I want to go in Turkey? She's like no, I'm like,

1777
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:00,639
Speaker 2: well then why would I want to go in Columbia.

1778
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 2: She's like, I thought you hated the Turks And I'm like,

1779
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 2: I don't hate.

1780
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 1: Wait, bring you in here, Jay, you're a man of

1781
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 1: the cloth. Is this a cultural religious thing? Like? Why

1782
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:10,680
Speaker 1: do men do this?

1783
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 3: I do not believe this is religious in any way,

1784
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 3: shape or form.

1785
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 2: You see Jay? No, one can hear you.

1786
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 1: Sorry, Yeah, no, I'm here.

1787
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 2: I'm here.

1788
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 1: It's not religious.

1789
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 3: I'm not religious at all.

1790
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 2: No, would you do would you do this? Would you

1791
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 2: do this? Jay?

1792
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:25,640
Speaker 3: No? And when I go to a spa, like I

1793
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 3: wear something I you know, or like you sneak in

1794
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,839
Speaker 3: when like you like you, I you know, the jacuzzi,

1795
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:32,599
Speaker 3: and then when nobody's in, then you run in naked,

1796
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 3: so you know likes Yeah, I'm not walking around with it.

1797
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:37,599
Speaker 1: I'm out of this conversation.

1798
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jay.

1799
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. Hey, let's let's close with this.

1800
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 1: Uh luke you have You've told people often that the

1801
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 1: first date with your wife, oddly enough, was at a

1802
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 1: shooting range. Is this how the date ended? On public transportation?

1803
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 1: You know? True love is passing out as your bear

1804
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 1: just drips all over your wife's Canadian tuxied all there.

1805
01:23:57,800 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 1: That's uh.

1806
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:04,639
Speaker 2: Man, that is awes, dude, the New York City subways.

1807
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 2: Can I tell you how little I miss writing those

1808
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 2: things every Monday?

1809
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, that is great.

1810
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 2: But you know what, dude, I'm not above it. I'm

1811
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 2: not above it. I told you one time I went

1812
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 2: out uh here in DC. I don't remember the I

1813
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 2: don't remember the context, but I do remember this. I

1814
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 2: remember being on my couch waking up at three. And

1815
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 2: you know that dude, when you do that bit where

1816
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 2: you wake up at like three and then you kind

1817
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 2: of like jolt awake for a second. And I jolted awake,

1818
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 2: And this is true. I had had I came home.

1819
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not I haven't had enough to drink.

1820
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 2: And I poured myself another one, did not drink it,

1821
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 2: and then just sat there and it sat on my

1822
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 2: like chest slash like briga slash belly. And then when

1823
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 2: I jolted myself awake, I splashed the entire thing in

1824
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 2: my goddamn face. I had actually kept it balanced to

1825
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 2: b see, unlike this idiot while I was sleeping, and

1826
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 2: it was only the process of coming awake. Did I

1827
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 2: then take a gym beam and co zero shower. But

1828
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 2: I've done that.

1829
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 1: Oh God, Luke, You've You've shared with us that you

1830
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 1: can be a gross mail and walk through first class

1831
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 1: on an airplane and just cropped us that tiny tube

1832
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 1: with all the spicy Colombian food you ate earlier in

1833
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 1: the day. Where do you stand on urinating in a

1834
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 1: public pool? Because I was at the town pool this weekend,

1835
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 1: hundreds of people, families there, and I'm like, somebody's pissing

1836
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 1: in here right now. I could see Luke Thomas doing that.

1837
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:31,919
Speaker 1: Just just how would you justify that the level of chlorine?

1838
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:32,879
Speaker 1: Is that your justification?

1839
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 2: No, my justification is how I'm treated. So this is

1840
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 2: a true story. I hadn't peed in a pool in

1841
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 2: probably thirty years, right until two summers ago. I went

1842
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 2: with my wife to we went to Cartagena, which is

1843
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 2: a beach town in Colombia, and there were a bunch

1844
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 2: of Argentinian dudes there who my wife says, they're not racist.

1845
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:54,560
Speaker 2: I think they're racist. But here's what they do in

1846
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 2: South America. Dude, people don't care about well, okay, yes,

1847
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:01,719
Speaker 2: i'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm going to generalize. They don't

1848
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 2: care about space or noise. So here's what I mean.

1849
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:08,760
Speaker 2: The pool clearly says, do not Spanish, obviously, do not

1850
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 2: play a personal radio. Don't do it. They show up

1851
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 2: with one of those like Bluetooth speakers that is so

1852
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 2: goddamn big. They look like, you know, a dude from

1853
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 2: a Spike Lee movie. Do the right thing. Fucking nineteen

1854
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 2: eighties Okay, Brownsville and they're blasting reggaeton, which I don't like.

1855
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 2: And the guy who comes over who is they're all

1856
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 2: white obviously, and the pool attendant comes over to tell

1857
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 2: them to hey, can you turn it down? They basically

1858
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 2: tell this guy to fuck off. Okay, so your boy

1859
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 2: had enough. Your boy had enough. Now I don't have

1860
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:44,600
Speaker 2: the Spanish to go and argue with them. They're not

1861
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 2: gonna understand me.

1862
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 1: My wife and I have the urine. But I do

1863
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 1: have the urine.

1864
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:51,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, my wife thinks that nothing's wrong with it. She's like,

1865
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 2: this is just how culture works down here. So I said, well,

1866
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm going to tell you how my

1867
01:26:55,920 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 2: culture works. So in list of status unidos, we vandalize things.

1868
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 2: And I walked into the pool and I walked the

1869
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 2: entire perimeter and I urinated the entire way through and

1870
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 2: then got out, so there was no possible way they

1871
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:15,679
Speaker 2: can get in. Let me finish without bathing in my urine.

1872
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 2: So Sha Balluto over in Argentina. How'd you like my piss?

1873
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 1: That is so ass pennies from What's that nineties show?

1874
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:25,559
Speaker 1: The Yeah that is wow?

1875
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 2: You know, well, don't be don't be racist to the

1876
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 2: guy who works there, and when he asks you to

1877
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,640
Speaker 2: turn down your fucking stereo, do it or you get

1878
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 2: to bathe in my piss.

1879
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1880
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 3: BC.

1881
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:36,719
Speaker 2: Seems like an easy choice.

1882
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,640
Speaker 1: Okay, Jay, Let's not invite Luke or his family to

1883
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 1: the MK cookout later this summer.

1884
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 2: Thank you? What these burgers are grass fed? Where's your pool?

1885
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 3: BC?

1886
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 1: What think's in the burger? Yeah? Hey, let's end it

1887
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 1: with some J video. Look at what I found on

1888
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 1: his Instagram account? Can you can you critique his his

1889
01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 1: form here?

1890
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:00,879
Speaker 2: Oh? Look at this fish a cold dynamo.

1891
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 1: Look at that facial hair that you know, that facial

1892
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 1: hair kind of screams like forty divorced, I bought a

1893
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 1: I bought a convertible, right, Jay? Is that any of

1894
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 1: that true? No?

1895
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 2: But uh I did destroy this bag. I mean I

1896
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 2: destroyed it. BC. You see how he's biting his lower lip.

1897
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 2: That's the same face he makes when he takes his

1898
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:25,799
Speaker 2: pants off before he touches himself inappropriately. All Right, all right, we're.

1899
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 1: Off in this video. Actually, in fact, I'm not here

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Speaker 1: for this Jay slander. I can't wait to get your

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Speaker 1: eye a Hall though on the show one day.

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Speaker 2: Get the truth. All right, that is fucking awesome.

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Speaker 1: This is great form on a terrible bag.

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Speaker 2: I must say, yeah, well something's terrible or I it

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Speaker 2: was the ever last.

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Speaker 1: But all right, look, I'm I'm pretty close to the

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Speaker 1: idea of like hashtag old guy fight. Can you if

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Speaker 1: you and Jay, like if we did it? I don't

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Speaker 1: want you to punch each other or kick each other,

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Speaker 1: but can we do a grappling? Can we do a

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Speaker 1: what are those weirdos doing Abu Dhabi.

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Speaker 2: Submission wrestling.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not into submission wrestling, but I would

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Speaker 1: promote a match between you and Jay considering his background

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Speaker 1: in jiu jitsu in your years of rolling. This is

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Speaker 1: an interesting idea.

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Speaker 2: Here will Yeah, that would not last long, not at all.

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Speaker 3: All right, one hundred pounds on me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all right, all right, we see. With that

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Speaker 2: in mind, we gotta keep things going because I do

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Speaker 2: have another job. That is it for? Have you seen this? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Put that on a T shirt? Please put that on

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Speaker 1: a T shirt already? Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 2: What do you have today for odds and ends? Good sir?

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have the results of Pat Militic

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Speaker 1: and Michael Nunn and their kickboxing match. I watched the

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Speaker 1: highlights of that pay per view. It was it was old,

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Speaker 1: they were old. Look, okay, here's what I do have.

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Speaker 1: Boxing comes back this Friday on his own, their first

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Speaker 1: card Golden Boy promotion since the quarantine shutdown. Supposed to

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Speaker 1: be Ryan Garcia, but you know he's having troubles these

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Speaker 1: days with the promoter. Canelos still don't have an opponent

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Speaker 1: for this fall. We're hearing we're hearing quickly all that.

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Speaker 1: But Virgil Ortiz Junior will be back, and if you're

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Speaker 1: not woke to him, the twenty two year old South

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Speaker 1: Paul welterweight does very much seem to be the real

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Speaker 1: deal and the next big thing in this division. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of a stay busy fight against Samuel Vargas, a

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Speaker 1: guy who has fought some big names at forty and

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Speaker 1: forty seven and typically loses when he steps up. But

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Speaker 1: it will be good to see another promotion and you know,

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Speaker 1: channel or streaming service come back. Luke boxing has had

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Speaker 1: a slow go of it, so excited to check Virgil

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Speaker 1: Ortiz out this Friday night. And I think he's really

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Speaker 1: like a year away from really crossing the street and

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Speaker 1: trying to get those big fights with the big welterweight's

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Speaker 1: a lot in the PBC. Of course, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how that's gonna work promotionally network wise, but that is

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Speaker 1: a fighter to watch, Luke. Although Ryan Garcia, we're not

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Speaker 1: making any progress here, Luke, I don't know how that's

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Speaker 1: gonna end. Okay Oscar dropping bombs on him, Oscar giving

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Speaker 1: him the Luke Thomas Askarov treatment.

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Speaker 2: Well, that must mean he respects him if that's what

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Speaker 2: you mean for my odds and NSBC, we have Bellator

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Speaker 2: back this Friday. They're back at the Mohegan Sun Arena.

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Speaker 2: Seven fight card. Four on the main card, three on

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Speaker 2: the prelim card. They've got Ricky bendet Haas versus Sergio

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Speaker 2: Pettis so bantamway contest in your main event. It's got

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Speaker 2: Jordan Mean on the car tawyin Clachston. Also, Aaron Pico

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Speaker 2: is BACKBC, yes, and on the prelim card. Top Wrestling

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Speaker 2: stand aut Logan Story is back as well at welterweight,

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Speaker 2: so that should be kind of interesting. And of course

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Speaker 2: they've got Chamber verstarterson. Yeah, we know what, it's only

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Speaker 2: seven fights, which, by the way, BC, the main card

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Speaker 2: for the Saturday UFC event has seven fights on just

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Speaker 2: the main card itself, fifteen overall, the most in company history.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot. And look, you know, I would

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Speaker 1: have given Bellatour some degree of a pass if they

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Speaker 1: came with a really soft card. And while this card

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Speaker 1: isn't overwhelming in star Pard, there's some good matchups, there's

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Speaker 1: some good fighters spread across it. I did talk to

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Speaker 1: Aaron peak Go about two months ago in the midst

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Speaker 1: of the quarantine, and you know, he just he's got

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Speaker 1: to try something new, Luke, He's got to figure out

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Speaker 1: the new direction. And he feels really, really comfortable at

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Speaker 1: Jackson wink and says, for the first time, he's beginning

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Speaker 1: to understand, you know, the teachings that he was slow

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Speaker 1: to in the beginning, the early in his career, when

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Speaker 1: he relied more on just his athleticism and and you know,

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Speaker 1: sort of natural gifts. Now he's by force, but you know,

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Speaker 1: he's figuring out the game a lot more. So you

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Speaker 1: can only wish to this guy. Well came in with

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Speaker 1: such overwhelming hype and has shown us, you know, the

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Speaker 1: good and the bad. But if he sticks to the

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Speaker 1: wrestling moving forward like he says he will, and use

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Speaker 1: that more that of a threat to set up his

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Speaker 1: strikes rather than just going out there to walk you

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Speaker 1: down and knock you out, still early enough for giant

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Speaker 1: things to come for this guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's not fighting a huge name. Christopher Hatley.

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Speaker 2: I don't know much about him, which I tend to

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Speaker 2: think is the right thing. He's been off not for

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Speaker 2: a long time, but you know, getting back into the

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Speaker 2: swing of things after the pandemic, and I almost thought

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Speaker 2: they had just rushed him like he was fighting Leandre

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Speaker 2: Ego way too early in his career. So, you know,

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Speaker 2: getting a couple of I don't know if it's a

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Speaker 2: gimme fight, but let's say not. You know, Oh, let's

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Speaker 2: make sure we get him the toughest fight we can

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Speaker 2: at featherweight. No, let's give the guy just some some reps. Basically,

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Speaker 2: I think that's the right call. So I am glad

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Speaker 2: there by the way. One note on this, and I

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Speaker 2: don't know exactly what this means. I legitimately do not

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Speaker 2: know what this means. But I asked Belatore about it.

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Speaker 2: This fight is not airing on dizone, so the prelims

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Speaker 2: are going to air on YouTube, the main card on Paramount,

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Speaker 2: and de Zone's not carrying it. Now, I always thought

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Speaker 2: that the Zone would carry all of them, and then

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Speaker 2: de Zone had specific Bellator events exclusive to them. I

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Speaker 2: went and looked on inside the the Zone app their

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Speaker 2: calendar for that day. They don't have anything listed. I

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Speaker 2: hit up Bellator's like what does this mean. They're like,

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Speaker 2: fans can get the prelimbs on YouTube and the main

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Speaker 2: card on Paramount I'm like, okay, so you know, there's

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Speaker 2: been a lot of rumblings about where exactly the future

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Speaker 2: is for Dezone and what it all means. They let

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Speaker 2: go of you know, of well that was Turner Sports,

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Speaker 2: but they were they thought to be maybe to play

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Speaker 2: for Champions League Riots and CBS got it instead. But

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that means, but it must mean

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Speaker 2: something B see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, certainly, and you know, full disclosure obviously Belator

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Speaker 1: part of the larger Viacom CBS family that even this

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Speaker 1: show falls under interesting change of events. We'll check this

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Speaker 1: out on Paramount and see what it means for the

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Speaker 1: brand moving forward. We don't have all the inside answers

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Speaker 1: he luke.

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Speaker 2: Okay, people think because we work her they tell us things.

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01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 2: They don't tell us things. So yeah, but I did

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Speaker 2: notice that in the press release. I was like, that

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Speaker 2: caught my attention. Okay, all right, see that. I think

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Speaker 2: it's just about it for us. Let's remind these folks.

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Speaker 2: They got to get the video a thumbs up like this,

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01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:42,360
Speaker 2: they got to hit that subscribe button like that. What

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01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 2: else they gotta do? BC?

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Speaker 1: They got to understand that, you know, we ain't our

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Speaker 1: competitors this is a different show. Okay, we see what

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Speaker 1: you're doing. Competitors, right, fashion shoots with Beck and Hanson,

2039
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 1: Courtney Love and Marilyn Manson. You're all fakes. Run to

2040
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:58,839
Speaker 1: your mansions, come around. We'll kick your ass. And nobody's

2041
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 1: doing what this show is, Luke, and it's about to

2042
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 1: uh take over the world. Okay, you've got the music

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Speaker 1: in you, Luke. Okay, Uh so I'm fired up. I'm

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Speaker 1: fired up for the future. It's gonna take you subscribing,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna take you supporting, it's gonna take you buying

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Speaker 1: our merch and it's very comfortably warn believe me, a

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Speaker 1: lot of big news to come from the merch side

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Speaker 1: to everything involving all things MK. But uh, thank you

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Speaker 1: for those who have patronized us early. They were patrons

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Speaker 1: of what we're doing. We've also been patronized many times,

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Speaker 1: but thank you. It all from webscream to uh to

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Speaker 1: uh you know, across the board, all of our all

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Speaker 1: of our soldiers in this army. Okay, Phil McCracken, they're

2054
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Speaker 1: the Chargers wide receiver coach love that guy. Okay, Look,

2055
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 1: you want to shout anybody out, You're usually usually Webscream.

2056
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Speaker 2: Webscream has got to be the MVP. I love the

2057
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Speaker 2: photoshops that he does. Please keep those coming.

2058
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:50,719
Speaker 1: And of course so Dominic Volando with the Simpsons stuff.

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Speaker 1: Lately he's coming out with more.

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Speaker 2: It's great. You know this this stiff competition, but Webscream

2061
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Speaker 2: has been loyal for a long time. I do think

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Speaker 2: it deserves some recognition. But if you want to follow us,

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Speaker 2: you can see their Instagram and then Twitter for me

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Speaker 2: and BC, and then YouTube obviously it's just Morning Combat

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Speaker 2: with the k and then of course one to think

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Speaker 2: the good folks at Showtime. If you want to try Showtime,

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Speaker 2: you certainly may Showtime dot com thirty day free trial,

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Speaker 2: keep it if you like it, bounce if you don't.

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Speaker 2: Totally up to you, and then as you mentioned, you

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01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 2: can go to store dot show dot com for the merch.

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Speaker 1: All right, PC, yay, tell them Jay, you did great.

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01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:22,960
Speaker 1: Let me bring in Jay. Jay. You did great today.

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Speaker 1: You didn't piss anybody off.

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Speaker 3: Jay.

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Speaker 1: When's your new doc coming out? That thing about like

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Speaker 1: airlines and points and stuff.

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01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's about travel unknown since travel doesn't exist right now?

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Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, well, hey, well you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm really glad you picked the timely subject. You really

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01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:40,639
Speaker 2: have great vision like that maybe four years ago.

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01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:43,679
Speaker 1: Yes, maybe you could jump in your jigo ot machine

2082
01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:46,160
Speaker 1: and go back in time and put that documentary out last.

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01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 2: Year was back in the time.

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Speaker 1: I believe that's on Hulu if you want to.

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Speaker 2: You know, Ja told me Jay told me BC. He

2086
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:53,960
Speaker 2: was like, you know what the future of television is?

2087
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:57,439
Speaker 2: He goes Beta Max working on a documentary, stay tuned,

2088
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Speaker 2: no Escape. I was like, okay, Jay, you really got

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Speaker 2: your finger on the full stare guy.

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Speaker 1: Hey, j Jay used to do a podcast with what's

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Speaker 1: that guy's name with Sindbad my man, and I was

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Speaker 1: a guest on it one time.

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Speaker 2: All right, this is this is all true. This is

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01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:12,400
Speaker 2: all true. He was the guy who was like, listen,

2095
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 2: Apple's gonna go out of business. I'm gonna buy a Zoom.

2096
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 2: I listened to my podcasts on Zoom. That was you,

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Speaker 2: wasn't it, Jay?

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Speaker 3: No? But I did have a mini disc player that

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Speaker 3: I had it on the day.

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Speaker 2: Of course you do, of course you do. All right,

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Speaker 2: Well we got to get out of here. B C

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Speaker 2: great today. You can always find BC stuff over at

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Speaker 2: CBS Sports for Malka, for showtime for BC. I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: Until next time, May all of your gains be loyal