1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning, the Breakfast Club Morning. 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 2: Everybody is the DJ Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: We ought to Breakfast Club. We got a special guest 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: in the building. Yes, indeed we have a Rob Alte welcome. 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 3: Hey, it's good to be here. 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: How's it going, actor Rob Loow? 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: I should say Unstable Season two is out August first 8 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 2: on Netflix. 9 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: And how are you feeling today? 10 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 4: Bro? 11 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 3: Anytime? 12 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 5: This is the only Breakfast Club I've ever been a 13 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 5: part of. Really, yeah, you know, because I didn't get 14 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 5: the movie. 15 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: I didn't get the movie. 16 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 3: I didn't get the movie. So this is it. 17 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 4: Did you try out for the movie? 18 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 3: I tried out for it and they were like no, because. 19 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 4: Back then it was like a whole crew, y'all. It 20 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 4: was probably like eight or ninety y'all that was in everything. 21 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 5: And and John Hughes never put me in anything John 22 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 5: Hughes movie. 23 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 4: I never thought about that. Yeah, I think eighty you 24 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 4: think you and like Molly Ringwall never did. 25 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 5: It took to the nineties for me to I finally 26 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 5: worked with Molly. We did Stephen King's The Stand Together. 27 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 5: But in the eighties, no, none of that man Rob. 28 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 4: You were famous at a time when fame actually meant something, 29 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 4: when there was a barrier of entry to be a celebrity, 30 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 4: you actually had to have a talent or skill set. 31 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 4: What was being famous in the eighties and nineties? 32 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 5: Like I think if I if I could go back 33 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 5: at a time machine and be young, single, famous, I 34 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 5: would not change a thing. I think the eighties was 35 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 5: the time it was, you know, pre cell phones, pre 36 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 5: the internet. You know, there was like it was just 37 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 5: it was. It was a magical time. And if it was, 38 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 5: it was a very fun time without the complications of today. 39 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 3: And and as you alluded to, it was hard to 40 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: be famous. 41 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 5: It was like anybody today can be famous overnight, which 42 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 5: has its own gifts. There's nothing wrong with it, but 43 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 5: you did have to really kind of work. 44 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 4: If you had social media in the eighty the nineties, 45 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 4: you think you'd have a career a you think you'd 46 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 4: be alive. 47 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be alive. And it wouldn't be the social media. 48 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 3: It would kill me. 49 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 5: It would be cheap drugs, better sleeping pills, all of it. 50 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: How have you had a job for so long? 51 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: Because there's there's a million and one actors, but you 52 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: stayed consistent. How would you say that you stayed consistent 53 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: for so long? 54 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 5: Well, I think part of it is I I don't 55 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,839 Speaker 5: have the same level of I don't want to say 56 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 5: fear because it sounds like I'm judging other actors. But 57 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 5: I'm very eager to jump into new genres. You know, 58 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 5: in the nineties, I jumped into television and that was 59 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 5: still a time when like if you had started in 60 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 5: movies you didn't do that, that meant your career was over. 61 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 5: And you know that ended up being the West Wing. 62 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 3: And you know, uh, I. 63 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 5: Take supporting parts, smaller parts when they're really good for me, 64 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 5: like in Behind the Candle Ober with Steven Soderberg, and 65 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 5: so I kind of I kind of try to do 66 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 5: follow what we're the interesting stuff is without thinking about 67 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 5: what does that say? 68 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 3: What does that mean? 69 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 5: And then the other thing is I still want to 70 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 5: learn and I'm curious, like I'm I'm I'm super curious 71 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 5: to have new experiences. 72 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 4: And you and your son created the show together, right, 73 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 4: that's right? Did your son earnest stripes in his business? 74 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 4: Did you do the little nepotism thing? 75 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 5: I did the I did the as any dad would 76 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 5: do nepotism thing of would you like to I'd love 77 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 5: it if you would meet. 78 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 3: With my son. 79 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 5: And then and you know, it's like I was talking 80 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 5: to Steven A yesterday about about Lebron Yeah, big Leakers fan, 81 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 5: and I was just saying, look, that's what dad's do 82 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 5: And but you know, then you got to put up 83 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 5: the points more in my kid's place. 84 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: You know, when he was a writer's is you got. 85 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 5: To go get the get the coffee, schlept to get 86 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 5: the lunches. You know, don't let anybody know who you are. 87 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 5: And then you when you start writing, then you better 88 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 5: sell something. And you know, because Hollywood and the NBA 89 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 5: are not in the business of giving anybody a free 90 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 5: ride at the end of the day. And so you 91 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 5: get season two of you create a show. 92 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: You you've done something. 93 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 5: So I opened the door, but he's got to walk 94 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 5: in it. 95 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 4: Did you did you raise your son John out of 96 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 4: fear or love? And the reason I asked that is 97 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 4: because you know, you've been sober for thirty years. He's 98 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 4: been sober for seven years. And I always say my 99 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 4: dad raised me out of fear because he didn't want 100 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 4: me to make the same mistakes that he made, but 101 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 4: I still ended up making him. Sure, So did you 102 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 4: make it? Did you raise your son out of fear 103 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 4: of love? 104 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: Both? 105 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 4: Okay? 106 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 5: The sobriety thing was like I knew really early because 107 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 5: I have two sons. One Matthew is in a lawyer 108 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 5: and like a businessman. He went into like I say, 109 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 5: real life, you know, John Owen went into my phony 110 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 5: baloney acting life. 111 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 3: One son I knew. 112 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 5: Was going to have a normal relationship with drugs and 113 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 5: alcohol like his mommy. And the other son, I knew 114 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 5: he's going. 115 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 3: To be like his daddy. 116 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: How did you know? How did you know that? 117 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 3: Oh? 118 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:59,679 Speaker 5: Come on, man, you like, come on like you you 119 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 5: you walk in on that, like the group of kids 120 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 5: on the weekend, and you surprise them, and and you 121 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 5: know there's one kid who's like the other kids are like, 122 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 5: and you're like, yeah, he's the one. I mean, you 123 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 5: know what, you just know? And so happily, because I 124 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 5: have been there, I know there's only one way to 125 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 5: make it happen. And the parents can't do shit, and so. 126 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 4: You've got to let them do it. 127 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 5: You can't do anything they won't that you can't. The 128 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 5: parents can't do anything that you can't get You can't 129 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 5: get sober for anybody other than you. I don't care 130 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 5: what your girlfriend, your mom, the law, whatever the hell 131 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 5: it is, doesn't make any difference. 132 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 3: You have to be ready. 133 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 5: So, by by the grace of God, and Johnny God 134 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 5: bless him, got his senior year at college. 135 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 3: He decided he'd. 136 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 5: Had enough and he came to Dad and I said, 137 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 5: I know what to do now. And so I got 138 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 5: into the right people, and we're a member of one 139 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 5: of the great clubs in the world. I think of 140 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 5: people in recovery because, let's face it, people are out 141 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 5: there partying and get on or fun. They're fun, they're funny, 142 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 5: they're smart, they're the life of the party, they're interesting. 143 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 5: So those people sober are the sickest. 144 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 4: So do you wait for somebody to come for both? 145 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 4: Do you wait for do you wait till they come 146 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 4: to you and say something? Or do you got to 147 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 4: put a live You got to keep them alive. 148 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 5: Your job is keep them alive. 149 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 3: Your job is like is like put the rails. 150 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 5: On the on the the when you're bowling. 151 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 4: You know, you put up. 152 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 3: Those rails so you don't roll. 153 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 5: Gotta Yeah, that's that's all you can do. And by 154 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 5: the way, that's a lot. I mean, I think partic 155 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 5: for young men. I think it's like get them to 156 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 5: twenty one by hook or by crook, whatever you gotta do, 157 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 5: try to help get them so they don't make some 158 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 5: horrible decision or hurt themselves or somebody else. Just get 159 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 5: them to twenty one. Their brain's calm down and then 160 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 5: you can have a cogent conversation with them. 161 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: Now you talked about Unstable. 162 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 2: For people that haven't seen it, break down what Unstable 163 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 2: is about. 164 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 5: So my son, if you follow them on Johnny low Instagram, 165 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 5: he makes a lot of fun of me. He trolls 166 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 5: me like no other I mean, he just and it 167 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 5: makes me laugh so hard. He's a funny, little funny 168 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 5: boy man. And people really got into the stuff he 169 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 5: was saying about me, and it became a thing like 170 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 5: I couldn't do an interview without people talking about it. 171 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 5: So Johnny, being a smart kid, was like, I think 172 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 5: there people like this dynamic, maybe there's a show in it. 173 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 5: And so we didn't want to play ourselves. So we 174 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 5: had to figure out a show that had the thing 175 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 5: that people like, which is our dynamic in a world 176 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 5: that we created, and we came up with what's the 177 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 5: math that equals what people are responding to, and that 178 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 5: is a father who's in the public eye, slightly larger 179 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 5: than life, perhaps a little untethered from reality because he's 180 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 5: been doing this for so long. 181 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: And then the son who is the only one who. 182 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 5: Can speak real people talk to him. 183 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 3: So I play a tech. 184 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 5: Guru, unhinged genius, and John Owen is the son who's 185 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 5: trying to live outside that shadow. 186 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 4: There's a lot of healing in this show too, though, 187 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 4: because you see like the grieving over the loss of 188 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 4: the wife and the mom. Who added that element and 189 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 4: what part of y'all real life were y'all bringing into 190 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 4: the show with. 191 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 5: It's so we brought in in season one Victor Fresco, 192 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 5: who's a very funny writer, producer who did the Santa 193 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 5: Clarita diet and Better Off Ted, and he brought that 194 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 5: in to help humanize my character. And now in season 195 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 5: two we have Andrew Gerland, who did a show called 196 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 5: Friends from College that I love, and it's always good 197 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 5: I think to get a third set of eyes on 198 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 5: an idea. And we've had really good collaborators who've helped, 199 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 5: but that that was something that they added. 200 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: Did you make yours an audition for his own role? 201 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 3: I make an audition every day? He No, he was, 202 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: and you listen. 203 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 5: I was worried about it because you know, he's acted, 204 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 5: he did, he's done some stuff on his own, but 205 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 5: this was a huge. 206 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: Leap for him. 207 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 5: And in season two, you know, seeing the growth because 208 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 5: we've had some comic. 209 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 3: Killers on the show. 210 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 5: I mean, Lamur and Morris is who I love, he's 211 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 5: and he's so good in it. We got Fred Armison 212 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 5: who's on it, Iris Apatow so z. Johnny really hold 213 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 5: his own with that group. This year is great. 214 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 4: Did you and you still never get how together? No? 215 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 3: God, no, I've been I've been sober thirty four years. 216 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Now and you've been married 217 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 4: twenty nine years too, right, thirty three thirty three? Wow? 218 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 4: So you talk about being unstable at what level of 219 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 4: the ability has being married with thirty three years provided you? Oh? 220 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 3: Man, it's it's saved my life, you know for sure. 221 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 5: You know my wife Cheryl is you know, she's my 222 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 5: my I don't even know how to describe it because 223 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 5: she's always been my best friend. She is the smartest person, 224 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 5: the most instinctive person I know and smartest but like 225 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 5: the greatest instincts and my greatest supporter and a terrific mom. 226 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,719 Speaker 5: So if you know, anybody out there, if you're lucky 227 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 5: enough to get that in your life, you're so far 228 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 5: ahead of the game. 229 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 4: What what what made you finally have the you know 230 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 4: where with thoughts that you know what? I got to 231 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 4: settle down because you were a Not only were you 232 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 4: a star in the eighties and nineties, you were considered 233 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 4: what they call a heart throw sex symbol. Yeah. 234 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 3: I was a player. I was out there. 235 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 4: You think he's sexy's just stayed out. 236 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 1: Heart throw, call him a sex symbol. 237 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 4: Heart throw. 238 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 3: I'll take both, guys, He'll give it. I'm happy with both. 239 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 4: He liked both. 240 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: No, it's not true. I said sex and I'm both. 241 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 3: I'll take it. Come on, man, I'm a six year 242 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 3: old man. 243 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: Right now, which seems kind of way to know. 244 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 4: But you know what I mean, I do you get 245 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 4: a lot of robs. 246 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 3: I was I was having I was doing a really 247 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 3: good time. 248 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. 249 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 5: And and by the way, that's why I think when 250 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 5: I was done, I was done. It's just it's no 251 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 5: different than than than partying. It's like I didn't get cheated. 252 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 5: I went on swinging. And so when I was. 253 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: Done, literally. 254 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 5: Sorry, I'm glad you got you. 255 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 4: I got it. 256 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 5: But but but so when I was done, I was done. 257 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 5: You know, I have no illusions. I left it all 258 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 5: in the whatever analogy you want to use, I left 259 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 5: it all in the field. 260 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: Did you have was your sex tape the first leak 261 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: sex tape ever? 262 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: Yes? 263 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, you invented the sector that was eighty eight or 264 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 4: he said you invented the sexta did celebrity sexty? Yeah? 265 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 3: But I was stupid enough to see. 266 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 5: Here's the thing is, being first isn't always best because 267 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 5: like nobody monetized it, like you know, made it. 268 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 3: Made Kim k. 269 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 5: But but it almost ruined me. But I mean it's 270 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 5: a big difference. 271 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 4: Why did it almost ruin you? Because you had an 272 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 4: image double they dude. 273 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 5: So if you were to go back and look at 274 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 5: the nightly news from whatever that came. 275 00:11:54,960 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 6: Out, Tom broke call, there's NBC news, right, doctor rob 276 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 6: ral and the whole thing, they go and another news 277 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 6: in Gman square. 278 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,359 Speaker 3: Democracy rose as a man stood. 279 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 5: In front of a gentleman square was the second. 280 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 3: Story on the news. 281 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: How did the tape lead? 282 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: Was your tape you were recording? Somebody broke into your 283 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: house or something like? How did it leave? 284 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 3: Uh? 285 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 5: It got stolen? But you know, look, man, it's like 286 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 5: it's one of those things that led me to where 287 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 5: I am. You know, I have no regrets in my 288 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 5: life and I and I've thought about it, man, I 289 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 5: really really have. Is because I've always learned more from 290 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 5: the mistakes and the screw ups. 291 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 3: By the way, that watch is so sick. 292 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: Oh, thank you Jesus Christ. 293 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 4: You said it changed the trajectory of your life, though, Yeah, 294 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 4: but in a bad way? You meet no, No, in 295 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 4: a good way. 296 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, because it's it started me thinking about what am 297 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 5: I really doing here? Who am I hanging out with? 298 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 5: And uh, you know, you're only as good as the 299 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 5: company you keep. And then I looked around and met 300 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 5: my wife Cheryl about a year after that, and it 301 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 5: wasn't It wasn't like I had an overnight conversion on anything, 302 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 5: but I realized that it's like, what do they say, 303 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 5: it's time to put you know, it was time to 304 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 5: it was trying to move on to a different, different, 305 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 5: different life. 306 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 4: Do you think it made your stock rise up because 307 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 4: you know, a lot of women got to see what 308 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 4: she was working with. 309 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 3: I hope. So yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean listen, I 310 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 3: can't be the judge of that now. 311 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 4: Yes, you can't. Can Yeah, you got a ruler? 312 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 5: What are you talking about? 313 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 3: Is it true? 314 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: During that time in the eighties, pat Riley also banned 315 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: you from the. 316 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 3: Would you why because of that? 317 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 5: Why? 318 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 4: Come on? 319 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 5: I think you wanted Irvan messed up in that ship. 320 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 5: Michael Cooper with the Lakers all the time while. 321 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 4: And you party party with them before. 322 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 5: Those are my guy. I love that era so much. 323 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 5: I love those men, so them so much, and you 324 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 5: know it just I wonder if like I go to 325 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 5: Lake Ams still but and I love all of it. 326 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 5: It's I mean, come on, man, that was the fucking captain. 327 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the crazy thing that happened with else say 328 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 2: your names. The craziest night. 329 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 5: The craziest night was when it was during the Pistons 330 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 5: the first Pistons Final in Detroit, and in those days 331 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 5: that the schedule was like what two three two? I think, 332 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 5: so you would you'd have these three games which were forever, 333 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 5: they were an eternity and you're in Detroit for like, 334 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 5: you know, a long time and you're out, you know. 335 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 5: So I sent some friends up to somebody's broom and. 336 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: What are the plays? Yeah, and an opposite team. 337 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 5: No on our team, and Riley found out about it, 338 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 5: and that's why he banned me. And then the other 339 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 5: the other one that really that no one knew about 340 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 5: is I took I took one of the one of 341 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 5: my guys out. 342 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 3: To mister Chows. 343 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 5: And those are the days when I was doing my 344 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 5: thing and I took something and he was, what's that 345 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 5: I got? 346 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 3: It's called a kaylude? So I want to try that. 347 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 5: He went, oh for thirty four Jesus right, I mean, 348 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 5: you look up the stats and I'm like, what. 349 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 4: That's Did he play that night? And the next day he. 350 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 5: Played the next day? 351 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 4: Okay, the next day? 352 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: What's wrong? 353 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 4: Rabo? 354 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: True? 355 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 4: I read that you was coach Michael Jordan and Magic 356 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 4: Jonathan Cory. 357 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 3: I didn't wear yeah, so uh I. 358 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 5: Magic used to have a amazing fundraise raiser. I want 359 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 5: to say it was for United Negro College fund. I 360 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 5: want to say. It was at the Forum every summer 361 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 5: and you had to show, like if you were in 362 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 5: the nb DA NBA, and you got the call from him. 363 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 5: You showed, so every star you can imagine played and 364 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 5: Arsenio coached one side and I coached the other. It 365 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 5: tells you exactly like what era it is, right, And 366 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 5: it was the first time that MJ and Magic played 367 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 5: together on the same team, and we scored. 368 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 3: We like I did anything. 369 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 5: They scored two hundred points and lost. Ray who they 370 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 5: play against the other team was Carl Malone, Clyde Drexler, 371 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 5: those of the two I really remember. And I remember 372 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 5: that I called the time out towards the end of 373 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 5: the game just so I could be involved, and everybody 374 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 5: was laughing, and I look over at Michael and he 375 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 5: was like dead eyed, and everybody's laughing, and all of 376 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 5: a sudden, people realized that Michael wasn't laughing and they 377 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 5: looked at him. I goes, hey, man, we're gonna win 378 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 5: this motherfucker. And everybody's like, oh, oh okay. 379 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: We didn't know that was how it was. 380 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 5: And so then they everybody played defense and still lost. 381 00:16:55,760 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 5: But you saw first I saw firsthand like Michael does play. 382 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, super super cool. 383 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 5: And it was also the first time he ever shot 384 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 5: free throws with his eyes closed, which I think he 385 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 5: went on to do once. 386 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: At least NBA he did, he did. 387 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 3: This is the first time he did it. 388 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 4: I want somebody to look up the over thirty four 389 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 4: shoot instead. I need to know who that was one 390 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 4: of these internets loose will figure it out. Was Hollywood 391 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 4: in the eighties really as evil as people made it 392 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 4: out to be? 393 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 3: Well in what sense? Tell me? 394 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 4: Tell me when you like when you see all these 395 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 4: hard you see these documentaries now, and they got the 396 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 4: creepy music playing and everybody was on drum. 397 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 5: It was it was way more. It was more innocent 398 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 5: because we didn't know what we didn't know. I mean, 399 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 5: listen when I came up because of this, Dude, when 400 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 5: I came up, my heroes were all on blow. I 401 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 5: don't want to name names of the actors, but again, 402 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 5: you could do the math. They all lived on Mulholland, 403 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 5: and they all were single, and they all were getting 404 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 5: after it every single night and winning Academy Awards and 405 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 5: then roll the Laker games, and dude, I just modeled 406 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 5: my life after the after heroes. 407 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 4: Cocaine was regular and it was pure. 408 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 5: It's what you did if you were if you were 409 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 5: successful and smart and by the way, in the beginning, 410 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 5: they thought it was good for you. Really, yeah, nobody 411 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 5: knew it hadn't brought a generation. 412 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 3: To its knees yet. 413 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it hadn't. 414 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 5: And so again we didn't know what we didn't We 415 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 5: didn't know. It's like it's like anything else that we 416 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 5: know about how we treat people in the workplace. You know, 417 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 5: today is a completely different time. I mean, Warner Brothers 418 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 5: gave you know, all of us underage kids booze on 419 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 5: the set of The Outsiders studio. 420 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 3: It's just people didn't know. We didn't know any better, 421 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 3: did that? 422 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 4: Why you and Tom Cruse got in a fight, y'all drunk? 423 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 3: We weren't drunk when we fought. 424 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 5: We were we were training. We were doing like a 425 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 5: fight night before there was a fight night in the 426 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 5: hallway because we're just young dudes, testosterone. 427 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: Real fight in that slat box like fight fight. 428 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 5: And we had full gear on, head gear, gloves. 429 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 4: So you Tom Cruise, Matt, Dylan Patrick's wayde. 430 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 5: Matt didn't do any of the athletics, okay, non zero Matt. 431 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 5: I love Matt, most unathletic movie star whoever lived. 432 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 4: Patrick's wady god bleft to day. 433 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 3: He was he was a baller, he was super athletic. 434 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 5: Another one, yeah, yeah, yeah, but it was me. Amelia 435 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 5: and Tom were the ones who trained all the time. 436 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 5: And part of the training was boxing. And you know, 437 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 5: if I got off a clean one once and that 438 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 5: was the end, I just then Tom just went wild. 439 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 4: So he was mad you hit him. 440 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 3: He's just competitive. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 441 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 4: It was great. 442 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: But that's that's what it's like. 443 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,239 Speaker 5: If you guys were in college and screwing around with 444 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 5: your fellas in a frat or whatever, whatever that would 445 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 5: look like. Is what we did. Got you in the 446 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 5: hotel because we were eight, you know, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen 447 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 5: year old kids, And. 448 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 4: Where were your parents, Like when the executives were feeding 449 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 4: y'all booths and stuff like, where were the parents of 450 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 4: the guardians? 451 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 5: Well that was at eighteen, you didn't have to have 452 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 5: a guardian. I turned eighteen on. 453 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 3: The set of The Outsiders. 454 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 5: It was the drinking age in some states back then. 455 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 5: Again we didn't know, we didn't know. And but Tommy, 456 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 5: he was a kid. Tommy was fifteen and he was 457 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 5: just getting after it. Wow, pony boy, Tom Tommy, how okay? 458 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 4: Okay, pony boy sounds crazy. That was his nickname. 459 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 5: Yeah outside, oh yeah, yeah, okay, okay, pony was a 460 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 5: good nickname. 461 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 3: Wow. 462 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 4: Would you ever make a movie about that era and 463 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 4: like really tell the truth? 464 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 3: I would? 465 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 5: Well, I wrote a book about about it, and there's 466 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 5: a chapter or two, but there's more than a few 467 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 5: chapters called stories. 468 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 3: I only tell my friends. You can get it on Amazon. 469 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 5: There's some good stuff in it there, but I've never 470 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 5: really I may do a documentary. 471 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 3: I'm talking to some folks about doing a documentary. 472 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 4: Because I like what you said about you didn't know 473 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 4: what you just didn't know. That's right, and that's why 474 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 4: I think it's like even NOWADAYD. I don't think I 475 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 4: think Cancel Coach is over, but it's how do you 476 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 4: judge people for what they did? 477 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 3: Tell me what you think it's over? 478 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 5: I'm super curious because you sit right in the culture. 479 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 5: If anybody would know, you would know you, guys, why 480 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 5: why do you think it's over? 481 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 4: Because everybody realized this is circular firing squad and nobody's perfect, 482 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 4: and you're gonna end up taking either you're gonna get 483 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 4: shot and you end up taking out somebody that you 484 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 4: really care for. I don't think it's a circular firing squad. 485 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 4: It's not sustainable. 486 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 3: I love that. I hope you're right. 487 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you got to give people grace. 488 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 2: And I think everybody has some type of dirt or 489 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 2: something on them that you don't. 490 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: You don't want it to fire back at you, for sure. 491 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 3: Right, it feels like it. 492 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 5: Right, it feels like it's coming to an ad a 493 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 5: little bit. 494 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 4: I forgot what I even asked you. 495 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I turned it around and asked you a question. 496 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 4: You know what it is you do? Have you got 497 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 4: eighties dreamy eyes? Bro? You turn like this. 498 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 5: I gave you the the Robert Redford half over exactly. Yeah, 499 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 5: it's just when you're kind of half over your shoulder exactly. 500 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 501 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 5: Old Bobby Redford invented that ship. 502 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 4: Who's Bobby Redford? 503 00:21:58,840 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 3: Robert Redford? 504 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 4: Oh? Should see me? Called hole making like Hollywood? Now? 505 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: Do I like it? 506 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? 507 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 5: It's funny because so we're here promoting the show. Right, 508 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 5: My son is twenty eight? He so I remember that era. 509 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 5: I mean I was already married and sober by twenty eight. 510 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 5: But you know, my point being, he's a young actor 511 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 5: in New York City, just you know, it's the hit. 512 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 5: The world is his oyster, and I look at what 513 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 5: how he sees the world visa via Hollywood and everyth 514 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 5: and how I see it. And you know, he's down 515 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,239 Speaker 5: at the Bowery and he's got this one and that one. 516 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 5: He's walking around, he's doing his thing, and all I 517 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 5: want to do is run the reservoir in Central Park, 518 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 5: get some room service, and. 519 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 3: Go to bed. And because. 520 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: So do. 521 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 5: I love Hollywood. I love working in Hollywood. I love 522 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 5: what happens when people come together to create. I love 523 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 5: the adrenaline of what is the next thing. I love 524 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 5: when people on the street stop and say, hey, I 525 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 5: can't wait for und stable or. 526 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 3: I've seen it. 527 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 5: I love all of that. That never gets old. But 528 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 5: everything else around it been there, done that. 529 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 4: I just wonder what's missing because y'all came up in 530 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 4: a time and everybody was a fucking mess. But it 531 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 4: never seemed like that mess really leaked out to the public, 532 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 4: unless like it was like an extreme, extreme situation. But 533 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 4: now it just seems like everybody's stuff is out there. 534 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's social media, it's self inflicted 535 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:34,959 Speaker 4: in social media. 536 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 5: Well, Listen, if you went to a nightclub or whatever 537 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 5: and in the day and we're doing whatever you were doing, 538 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 5: and everybody saw it. Who theyre going to tell? They 539 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 5: tell somebody and they don't believe it or whatever. And 540 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 5: now we're a place where you photograph it or say 541 00:23:54,960 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 5: it's happening right now, and it's everybody knows everything. And 542 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 5: I think I think that's that's it. And also people 543 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 5: are also much more open. I mean, there's a time, 544 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 5: you know, young young folks can't even fathom this where 545 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 5: you didn't even come in and do what I'm doing, 546 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 5: Like you didn't see Warren Batty, Like my I'm talking 547 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 5: about movie star icons right at the time, you didn't 548 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 5: see Warren Batty do any interviews for anything. It's like 549 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 5: beneath them, and and and then on and on and on. 550 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 3: So again, like now. 551 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 5: You've got if you're opening them, if you're doing Twister, 552 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 5: you got them running around the country doing doing song 553 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 5: and dance numbers in every city to open up that movie. 554 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 5: And that that didn't you know, it was way way 555 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 5: more private. 556 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 4: But that's because it was it because y'all were proven 557 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 4: movie stars already. Though, So it's just like if we 558 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 4: noticed group of people are going to be in a movie. 559 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 4: A'll Warren Baty started movie. I'm going to see it. 560 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 3: That's exactly. That's also part of it. 561 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 5: You're right, there's you know, there were three networks. 562 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: On TV, so many other options. 563 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 5: Now you have so many, and everything's so segmented. So 564 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 5: whatever you're in do, there's a whole silo just for 565 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 5: you and and that and what you're into can be 566 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 5: as niche as niche niche niche can be, and you 567 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 5: can find your community. And in the old days, you 568 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 5: know that those niche entertainment needs went unfulfilled and so 569 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 5: all you had was broad entertainment. 570 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 4: Will there ever be any new movie stars ever again? 571 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 4: Will there ever be a. 572 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 3: Not like there were? 573 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 5: Because the world's different, I mean not like there were. 574 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 5: And I think I wonder it's the same musicians, it's 575 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 5: the same movies. It's funny athletes, though there are still 576 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 5: superstars like they used to be, even maybe more so today, 577 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 5: But in movies and music, I feel like you're never 578 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 5: going to see the likes of the kind of stars 579 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 5: that were created when stars had to really earn their 580 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 5: way in. 581 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 4: I think the athletes might not be the same though, 582 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 4: because the athletes of that era actually cared about winning 583 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 4: more than anything. 584 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 3: Oh, don't get me started. 585 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 4: You know. So it's like when you that's how you 586 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 4: become an icon due the reason you look at Jordan, 587 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 4: when you look at Jordan's Magic or Brady is because 588 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 4: they actually won people. 589 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 5: Well they were they were as interested, if not more. Well, 590 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 5: here's the thing I just I you go back. 591 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 3: To to the Lakers. 592 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 5: It's like, it's so hard for me to watch the 593 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 5: NBA now because I just know all those guys are 594 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 5: are bros. Well, they definitely are because they're talking about, 595 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,479 Speaker 5: hey do we want to play together here? 596 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 4: And there? 597 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 3: Can you imagine that conversation. 598 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 5: Going on between Charles Berkley and Magic or Patrick Ewing 599 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 5: and and no, they wanted. 600 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 3: To murder each other out on the floor. 601 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 5: So it's just a different Again, it's I'm not saying 602 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 5: it's better or worse, but. 603 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 3: It's not the same. 604 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 4: You consider bron a Laker. 605 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 3: Again, that's it. 606 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 5: No, he's got championships with multiple teams, but that doesn't 607 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 5: make him not a Laker. I'm talking about yeah, yeah, 608 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 5: I say multiple multiple teams. 609 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 4: I'm talking about stature. You would you want a statue 610 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 4: of bron in front of the Staples Center. 611 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 5: Sure, oh yeah, I mean he won a championship. He's he's, 612 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 5: you know, the in the top three. I'm gonna in trouble. 613 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 5: Whoever played one, two or three? 614 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you an all time lag. 615 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 5: Cridinal, he's not an all time Laker. 616 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 3: He just doesn't. 617 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 5: He's not because because he is. And I don't mean 618 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 5: this as a pejorative, but he's a little bit of 619 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 5: a mercenary. 620 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 4: You know. 621 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 5: He goes as he should, He goes he wants to go, 622 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 5: does he wants to do? Why wouldn't he? But that 623 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 5: culture didn't exist. I mean again, you would never remember 624 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 5: when Michael couldn't get past Cleveland. 625 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 4: Do you remember that Cleveland? 626 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: You remember that? 627 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 4: Remember that era? 628 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 5: Okay, so what if Michael had said, you know what, 629 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go play Brad Dherty in Cleveland. 630 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 4: Brad Darty and Mark Price. 631 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: But Mike Price, those guys, but. 632 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 5: They were remember they were killing him. So it's just 633 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 5: a different different time. Robert the go Yeah, I know, 634 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 5: all right, Rob, You guys guys are the sickest watches. 635 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, thank you, it's just a little something. 636 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: Thank you. 637 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 3: Just a little nothing. 638 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 4: Thank you. You're watching clean too, though. 639 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 3: Yes it is absolutely I went my day, my day 640 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 3: one every. 641 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: Day, that's it. 642 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 3: Every day. 643 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: It's every day, paddics every day. I'm not mad at you. 644 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: Come on, Ladies and Gentlemen. 645 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: Unstable Season two premieres August first on Netflix and Rob Loow. 646 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: We appreciate you for joining us. 647 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 4: Thank you. 648 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 3: This is great, guys. 649 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,239 Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, wake that ass up 650 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: in the morning. 651 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 4: The Breakfast Club.