1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 2: Welcome bit everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Football Saturday Er 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: towards Jason Maart. We all broadcasting live from the Fox 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:16,159 Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios. Jay Bart. You know, listen, it's the 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: oldest cliche in the book, but we always say that 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 2: the college football Saturdays that look like on paper, maybe 7 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: they're not going to be as good. Remember last week 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: we had those two top ten matchups. I think we 9 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: had three Top twenty matchups overall. That was the weekend 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: that everybody had circled. This one was ah, you know, 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 2: even Florida State and Miami's lost a little bit of luster. 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 2: With Florida State losing, how good is it going to be? Well, 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: Penn State in the most shocking loss of the season 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: bar none, falls to UCLA Arch Manning. I don't know 15 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: what his future is. 16 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 3: And all I know is I saw a comment that 17 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 3: suggested Golden Arches Manning is where he's about to end 18 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 3: up if he doesn't start playing better football, meaning he's 19 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 3: gonna be a fry cook. 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: Well, it's bad, and I should mention, by the way, 21 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: where I thought we might come onto this show is 22 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: that basically the Miami Florida State game is at three 23 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: minutes left, and at one point, Miami was up twenty 24 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: eight to three, very much looking like the best team 25 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 2: in college football. Well, it's kind of worth noting it's 26 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 2: twenty eight to nineteen now. Florida State just scored a 27 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 2: two point conversion would have made it a one possession game. 28 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: They did not get it, so it's still a two 29 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 2: possession game. Miami's gonna hold on, but probably not the 30 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: strongest way to end. And so instead let's go to 31 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: the swamp j Mart and we and we'll keep you 32 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: updated as Florida State and Miami gets set to go 33 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: final here but three minutes left. As I said, Florida 34 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: State down by nine at home, Miami up at twenty 35 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: eight nineteen. But let's go to you know, I think 36 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: we could start with either of the stories, but Florida 37 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: Texas was certainly something. Florida came in on the three 38 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: game losing streak the last time we saw the Florida 39 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: Gators one hundred and forty one yards of total offense 40 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 2: oh for thirteen on third down against the Miami Hurricanes. 41 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: Well off of a bye, Florida set the tone early. 42 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: They go up ten to nothing in the first quarter. 43 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: Texas not only never let in this game, but it 44 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 2: never felt like they were ever go Like there was 45 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: never a moment where you're like, Okay, here's Texas. Texas 46 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 2: is coming. Instead, they fall to three and two their 47 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: wins at this point. J mart are against Sam Houston State, 48 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: San Jose State and UTEP and arch Manning sixteen of 49 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: twenty nine, two touchdowns, two interceptions. It wasn't all his fault. 50 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 2: He was sacked a couple times. Let's see here, sacks 51 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: six times, not a couple of times, sacks six times, 52 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 2: somewhere on the O line, somewhere on him. But I'm 53 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 2: gonna let you take this. Is this some sort of 54 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: statement from the Florida Gators who had lost three straight 55 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: coming into this one, or is this just about arch 56 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: Manning simply not being good enough to be the quarterback 57 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: of the Texas Longhornes. 58 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: So look, I'm wearing Warby Parker reading glasses right now 59 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 3: as we start this show. And I saw a joke 60 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 3: after the game that said perhaps he needs to wear 61 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 3: the glasses that he wears any ad during the games. 62 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: Oh, is this like a Rick Hani key He's not 63 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: seeing very well. Is that is that? What that is? 64 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 3: Well? I mean he's he's in warby Parker ads sure, 65 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: and he's wearing these glasses and then he's out there 66 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 3: and this is what I didn't expect. What I didn't 67 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: expect from arch Manning was that he was going to 68 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 3: be this inaccurate, Like that was not on my Bengo 69 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 3: card coming into the season whatever was going to happen 70 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 3: with Arch. I certainly thought he was going to be 71 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 3: able to throw the football, and there were a couple 72 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 3: of throws in this game that looked pretty good good, 73 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: but the vast majority of what he did was bad. 74 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: It wasn't even mediocre. It was bad. The poison the 75 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 3: pocket was bad. There were a few times where he 76 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: handled the pocket well. A lot of times he didn't 77 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 3: look like he knew where he was. He overshot wide 78 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 3: open guys, he overthrew his roommate who made the catch 79 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: and it turned into a hospital ball almost. It was 80 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 3: a rough tackle, but is because he had to stretch 81 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 3: out for this that he wasn't able to make any 82 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 3: kind of play on the ball afterwards, And like, obviously 83 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 3: he's going to take a run of the criticism. Yeah, 84 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 3: you're right. The offensive line is not very good. Honestly, 85 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 3: I don't know that Texas as a team is very good. 86 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 3: I'm not blown away with almost anything that I see 87 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 3: from them, which is stunning based on what we anticipated 88 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: coming into the season. But arch Manning and time may 89 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 3: change this. But I'm not going to give him the 90 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 3: benefit of the doubt and say that time is going 91 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 3: to change this because I'm not sure I would give 92 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 3: that benefit of the doubt somebody else. So I'm gonna 93 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: forget about his last name because there's no reason to 94 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 3: talk about that anymore. This is a guy that's not 95 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 3: very good at football right now. This is a guy 96 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 3: who kind of grandstanded on lesser opponents, but when he 97 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 3: has actually had somebody that can punch him in the mouth, 98 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 3: whether it was Ohio State, whether it was what we 99 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 3: saw last year in the College Football Playoff, whether it 100 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 3: was today in the Swamp against a Florida defense that 101 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 3: has been good much of this season. And so we 102 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 3: are watching this and I thought, Okay, this is a 103 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 3: litmus test game for arch Manning because he is going 104 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,559 Speaker 3: to face a defense here. But they've got better talent 105 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 3: than Florida. They should be able to you know, he 106 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 3: should be able to do some stuff. This is what 107 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 3: Arch Manning is supposed to do. It's what we've heard 108 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 3: about for years. He's not capable of it, Aaron. He's 109 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: just not very good. And again, like not that you're 110 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 3: rooting against him, even though it does seem like a 111 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 3: lot of people are. But this right here, the leash 112 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 3: is getting shorter and shorter and shorter. And if his 113 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 3: name wasn't Manning, I'm not so sure he would still 114 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 3: be the starring quarterback at Texas because even though he 115 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 3: made a couple of good throws in this game, I 116 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 3: would say eighty percent of what I saw from him 117 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 3: during the course of four quarters on the road against 118 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 3: an SEC opponent was flat out not good enough to 119 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 3: be QB one. 120 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: So I think bigger picture. That's the interesting conversation. A 121 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: couple thoughts here on everything you said. First of all, 122 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: I don't want to put it all on Arch because 123 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: and I'm not saying in any way, shape or form 124 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: you were, but you know, again sacked six times. Some 125 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 2: of that was on him, but some of it is 126 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 2: this old line, which you remember last year they were 127 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: really good on the O line, you know, Kelvin Banks 128 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 2: ends up as a first round pick of the New 129 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: Orleans Saints. Whatever. You go into this game on Saturday, 130 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: they rushed for fifty two yards. Now, part of it 131 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 2: was again they were down from basically, you know, the 132 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: first play, not the first play, but the first series 133 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 2: of the game. On they were they fell behind. It 134 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: could never catch up. But fifty two yards on the ground, 135 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: round two yards per carry, ten penalties, several of them 136 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: false starts, and then six six sacks. Some of them 137 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 2: were on Arch, some of them were not on Arch. 138 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: And so to me, I actually think the bigger story 139 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: is what you said in the on the back end 140 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:17,239 Speaker 2: is Arch isn't good. But I think you me pretty 141 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: much anybody who cares about college football and thinks about 142 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: it in July and August and starting to prep for 143 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: the season thought, because I remember, I know that I 144 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: had this thought. Was I remember talking to buddy of 145 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: mine who covers A and M, and we were talking 146 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: about Arch, and and you know, I said, it's the 147 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: most interesting story, blah blah blah blah blah. And he 148 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: brought up the point he said, Aaron, Yeah, but Texas 149 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: is so good everywhere else that it might not matter 150 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: how good he is, and so I just bring that 151 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: up because that, to me is the shocking thing that 152 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: I think Arch was gonna be this bad. Of course not, 153 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: but the counter to that was, I thought, the defense 154 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: is going to be so good it won't matter. The 155 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: O line is going to be so good it won't matter. 156 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 2: The run game is going to be so good it 157 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: won't matter. The receivers will be so good they'll be 158 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: able to make up for it. Well, it's just not 159 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: a good football team right now. You know, they finished, 160 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 2: as I said, fifty two yards rushing, two yards per carry, 161 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: ten penalties in the swamp by the way. They you know, 162 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: they still aren't winning big games in the SEC, if 163 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: you even want to call to Florida a big game. 164 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 2: But I mean, you go back to last year, they 165 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: didn't have a lot of great wins. And then conversely, 166 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: on defense, one hundred and fifty nine yards rushing allowed 167 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: four and a half yards per carry. Lagway, to his credit, 168 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 2: you know, played by far his best game of the season. 169 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: And it's it's not just that Arch isn't good, which 170 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 2: I agree with you one hundred percent on, it's that 171 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: I just I don't know what this team. This Texas 172 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: team that is does very well at this point, and 173 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: to the point that you made that I made that 174 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 2: we're all gonna make it ain't getting any easier. Because 175 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: I'll say this. You know, they play Oklahoma next week. 176 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,599 Speaker 2: John Mattier might not be available. 177 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 3: I don't think. 178 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: I'm not saying they can't win even if John Mattier 179 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 2: doesn't play. But I don't even know if Johnttier doesn't play. 180 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: If I think that they will win because of the 181 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 2: quarterback play and because Oklahoma's defense is so good. So 182 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 2: I'm rambling, I'm gonna toss it back to you. I 183 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: guess the point that I'm trying to make is to me, 184 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: it's an arch thing, but it's a everything thing basically, 185 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 2: for lack of a better term. 186 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, So there are quarterbacks that can, if not overcome, 187 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 3: they can certainly put you in a position to win 188 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 3: when other things aren't going right. And then there are 189 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 3: guys where everything has to be perfect or you've got 190 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 3: no chance. And I think that what's accurate right now 191 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 3: about Texas is that they don't look cohesive on either 192 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: side of the ball. I'm stunned by it. And Arch 193 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 3: Manning is nowhere near good enough to raise the level 194 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 3: of their play. And I don't know that they believe 195 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 3: in them right now. And I don't mean Sarkisian and 196 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 3: the staff necessarily as much as I mean the guys 197 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 3: on the field, the offensive line getting all the false 198 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 3: star penalties. They're trying to get a jump because obviously 199 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 3: Florida is coming at him, and they also know that 200 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 3: their quarterback can't seem to get the ball out of 201 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 3: his hands. Like, yeah, there were definitely some of those 202 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 3: sacks that were on Arch the offensive line didn't help 203 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 3: the cause, but you've got to adjust at that point 204 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 3: and get the ball out of your hand. And I 205 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 3: did not see that during the course of the game, 206 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 3: the interceptions. You know, he threw a couple of deep 207 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 3: shots that didn't work out. But it's just I know 208 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 3: there's a lot of pressure on him, and it's increasingly 209 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 3: so because I don't think that as he looks at 210 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 3: the team, they're as dominant as he thought they were 211 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 3: going to be, because he watched what quinn Ewers did 212 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 3: last year, and he watched the team around quinn Ewers, 213 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 3: and he was around that team, and now it's his 214 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: team and the team's not the same and the team's 215 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 3: nowhere near as good, so more is on his shoulders. 216 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: Plus he's got his last name, and he knows that 217 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 3: a lot of people are waiting for him to fail 218 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 3: and all this stuff, and what we are seeing from 219 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 3: him is just I don't know that he's crumbling under pressure. 220 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 3: I think that the hype was way too much. That's 221 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 3: obvious at this point. A lot of people look foolish. 222 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 3: And I'm not excluding myself when I say that, but 223 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 3: a lot of people thought that this was going to 224 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 3: go differently, much faster. And look, there's a lot of 225 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 3: Texas fans right now that are trying to send, you know, 226 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 3: one eight hundred flowers or whatever to quinn Ewers because 227 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 3: they were burying that guy last year. And now they're like, man, 228 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 3: I wish we had you back, Like I wish we 229 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 3: would have welcomed you back. We didn't realize what we had, 230 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 3: and sometimes you don't until it's gone. Because and you 231 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 3: made this point, and you made it last year, and 232 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: you get all the credit for this, and you've made 233 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 3: it repeatedly this year. There's a reason why that dude 234 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 3: did not you know, replace quinn Ewers last year because 235 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 3: they had a chance to win a championship, and of 236 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: Sark thought that Arch was going to give him a 237 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 3: better chance to win the championship, he would have made 238 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 3: that move and he didn't. And there's a reason, and 239 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 3: we've seen it now. He's just not ready yet. At best, 240 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 3: he's not ready. At worst, he's just not very good. 241 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I we'll kind of wrap on that, jamrt Is. 242 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: I guess that's my question, is it's interesting when you 243 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: recruit a player as high profile as Arch manning one. 244 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 2: I think increasingly it feels more and more like I 245 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 2: think they were trying to hide him the last two years. 246 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: Because again to the point that you made, to the 247 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: point that I've made, we've listened. We don't have to 248 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 2: go through all of it. We have seen coaches when 249 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: they know that they have the better quarterback on the 250 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: bench and they have a roster good enough to win. 251 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,599 Speaker 2: We have seen coaches make changes. We don't have to 252 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 2: go through all of them. But two over Jalen Hurts, 253 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence over Kelly Bryant. We could go on and 254 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: on down the list. Okay, so that's whatever, But I 255 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: just think what's more interesting is Arch is obviously a 256 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: red shirt sophomore. We know all the commentary in the 257 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 2: offseason about his grandpa saying this and him saying that, 258 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 2: and how long will he actually be there for? In 259 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: theory he could be there two more years. And I 260 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: guess the only point that I'm trying to make is, 261 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: you know, I just think it's such an interesting kind of, 262 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: for lack of a better term, of a political balance 263 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 2: of you know, the Manning family carries a lot of weight, 264 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: no matter what you think. And I think it's pretty 265 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 2: clear everybody wants this to work. But I just don't 266 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 2: know how long that leads can be because I know 267 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 2: I open the segment by saying the defense isn't good 268 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 2: right now, the old line isn't good enough. I trust 269 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: that staff to get everything else in line. I don't 270 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 2: know if I trust Arch to elevate to the point 271 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: that he can win the games that he needs to 272 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: win for Texas to have the kind of seasons that 273 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 2: they expect to have. So I just bring it up 274 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: because I'm just more curious than anything else. How long 275 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: is the rope with Arch where you have to say 276 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: I know what your last name is, I know who 277 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: your uncles are, I know who your grandfather is we 278 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: don't want to upset the first family of football, but 279 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: we have to make tough decisions on you. I know 280 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: there's no answer to that, but I just think it's 281 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: a fascinating conversation going forward. 282 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 3: Look, we've gone from can they keep him in school? 283 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 3: To do they want him next year? Like, I think 284 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 3: that's that's the trajectory we're on. We're not there yet. 285 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 3: There's still more than much. You know, there's still a 286 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: lot of football left to be played this year. So 287 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 3: we're basing this on a month's worth of work. And yes, 288 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: he's still young, he's twenty one years old. He's just 289 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: arding to really see what college football is and all 290 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 3: those kinds of things. Throwing those caveats out the door. 291 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 3: Are we sure Texas is going to have him as 292 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 3: QB one next year because they choose to have as 293 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 3: QB one next year, Like, he could be in the 294 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 3: MAC next year, he could be somewhere else. He's not 295 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 3: going to the NFL Draft that I think we're I mean, 296 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 3: who's at this point, I don't see how that could 297 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 3: potentially even be possible. But you look at the rest 298 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 3: of it's like, so who is it that's going to 299 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 3: give him his next opportunity because Texas made jettison him, 300 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 3: because I guarantee you right now they are recruiting quarterbacks 301 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 3: hardcore and saying you have a chance to play next year. 302 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: They have to be it's a win now league that 303 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 3: you don't have time to watch him develop. And to 304 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 3: your point, they've had him on campus for a couple 305 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 3: of years, so they know what they've had and I'm 306 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 3: not so sure that they are surprised by what they're seeing. 307 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, And that's the most important part is he 308 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 2: has been on campus in his year three. And I 309 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: know we've said this from the beginning, but this isn't 310 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: you know, fill in the blank somebody that's thrown into 311 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: the fire as a true freshman. This isn't Bryce Underwhere, 312 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 2: This isn't Dylan Ryola last year. This is the third 313 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: year that he has been in that program and should 314 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: be ready to go. Uh So we'll see what happens. 315 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: We don't have answers, Steve Sarkisian saying all the right 316 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: things right now, but we will will be monitoring. 317 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 3: Speaking of so many dudes, so many dudes that were 318 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 3: supposed to be studs. 319 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 2: You know, but. 320 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 3: Let me. 321 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: Let me say this, it's crazy. There is some good 322 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 2: quarterback play. Ty Simpson has been awesome. By the way. 323 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 2: One guy that we gave up on that maybe we 324 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 2: shouldn't have Nico I Amaliava baby oh boy. There's a 325 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 2: lot of deleted tweets from Nico as we as we 326 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: get set to talk about that game. By the way, 327 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: we do just about have a final. Florida State scored again, 328 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 2: uh to cut the lead, So basically they drove the 329 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: length of the field. It was a two possession game. 330 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: They elected to kick a field goal to cut it 331 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 2: to two. I guess it would be six trying to 332 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 2: recover an onside kick. Onside kick, Miami recovers, Miami is 333 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: gonna survive. Twenty eight twenty two will be the final score. 334 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: All the you gotta do is take a knee, although 335 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 2: Mario Christobal has a history of not taking a knee 336 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 2: in the situation, so we'll see if credit credit Florida. 337 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 3: State though, I mean, they could have gotten boat race 338 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 3: when this thing is twenty eight to three. They're a 339 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 3: pretty good football team, but no means are they great. 340 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 3: But they're obviously gonna be a tough out week after week. 341 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: Well'll tell you what. We'll come back. We will talk 342 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: about this game, as it looks like Miami is going 343 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: to hold on to improve to five and zero. Certainly 344 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: have the edge in an acc that feels wide open 345 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: outside of them. We'll come back and discuss this, but 346 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: we do have to discuss the man that I just mentioned, 347 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: Nico Iyamaliava and the team, the UCLA Bruins just absolutely 348 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: stunning moments at the Rose Bowl on Saturday, Er Torres 349 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: Jason Martin. Actually, speaking of stunning, be sure check out Fox. 350 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 2: Checkout DraftKings sportsbook. They're stunning an official sports betting partner 351 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: of the NFL. 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America's Darling 394 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 2: Jay bart I had no idea that on Planet Earth, 395 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: Mother Teresa, the Dali Lama and Jerry Neuheisel were the 396 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 2: most beloved people in the history of Planet Earth. UCLA 397 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: gets the win over Penn State. Final score well is 398 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: at forty two to thirty. I don't even have it 399 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 2: off the top of my head. It does not matter. 400 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 2: I'll get it to an half a second. The point 401 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: I'm trying to make UCLA coming in as close to 402 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 2: a four touchdown favorite, had never led for a single 403 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: moment in their first four games coming into Saturday. They 404 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: pull off the upset against Penn State, and the man 405 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: you just heard, Jerry Newhisel, the interim AD hired on Monday, 406 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: carried off the field, jaymart, I know we can be 407 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: hyperbolic at times with college football. I don't know that 408 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 2: I've ever seen anything quite like what we saw at 409 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl on Saturday. 410 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 3: Nobody saw that one coming. That was an zero to 411 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 3: four team that at no point in the season had 412 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 3: led in any game, and they led for the entirety 413 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 3: of the game against one of the national championship favorites 414 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 3: entering the season. And Jerry new Heisel like, it's weird, 415 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 3: like I thought, because he looks so much like Rick 416 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 3: in so many ways, And of course they kept cutting 417 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 3: into Rick in the studio and that was a cool moment. 418 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 3: It's just really just awesome to see, and a lot 419 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 3: of us at Fox, I'm sure you have I've interviewed 420 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 3: Rick through the years and just a really nice guy, 421 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 3: really good guy, energetic guy, positive force. So I'm sure 422 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,959 Speaker 3: that that was just an amazing thing for his family. 423 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 3: But I couldn't help but think I was watching like 424 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 3: Chad Powers, because I keep seeing these ads with the 425 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 3: Manning thing and everything else that I forget his name now, 426 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 3: the actor that's playing Glenn Powell, that's playing him in 427 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 3: the Hulu series, And I was just like, dude, he 428 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 3: kind of looks like a cross between young John Gruden 429 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 3: and Rick Newisle. Like it's such a weird thing, but dude, 430 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 3: he was fired up and what he was calling was 431 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 3: working like gangbusters. And it leaves you to think, man, 432 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 3: how bad was to Sean Foster? Well, how bad were 433 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: things there? Because you got interims all over the play. 434 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 3: You've got a quarterback who had not had anything to 435 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 3: say positive whatsoever, and no one has had anything positive 436 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 3: to say about him since he left Knoxville, basically, and 437 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 3: on one Saturday, they flipped the entire script around. Everybody 438 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 3: wanted to see them win that game. They won that 439 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 3: game in kind of dramatic fashion, because you certainly thought, 440 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 3: as it was getting down to crunch time, oh well, 441 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 3: Penn State's getting the ball back. All right, this was 442 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 3: a nice story, but this is where the team that's 443 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 3: supposed to win wins and then they didn't, And so 444 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 3: what have we left with? You know, exactly what we're 445 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 3: left with because I've been talking about it for years, 446 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 3: and you've been talking about it for years, and in 447 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 3: this case, unfortunately he can't escape because the end of 448 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 3: game management and the way that last two to three 449 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 3: minutes played out is quite a feather in the reverse 450 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 3: cap of James Franklin. This was an unmitigated disaster for 451 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 3: Penn State. And I don't even know where we're going 452 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 3: from here. I have no idea like what James Franklin's 453 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 3: future is, how long it's gonna last. But I know 454 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 3: he has a fifty million dollar buyout. Well, I'll tell you, 455 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 3: and that's a big problem. 456 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you where we'll go from here? Is that? 457 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 2: Just how crazy was this situation? Again, Jerry Newheidel getting 458 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: the job late I think it was late Tuesday. Excuse me. 459 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 2: Here was Jerry Newheidel talking about this whirlwind week after 460 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 2: the game. 461 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 6: The first thing I want to say is I love 462 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 6: UCLA more than anything, and the kind of kids that 463 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 6: you see that played on that field to day is 464 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 6: exactly why you love a place like this. 465 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 3: We had two days to. 466 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 6: Practice the new game plan, and all they did was believe, 467 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 6: and we came out and played as hard as we 468 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 6: could for sixty full minutes. Had to take a safety 469 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 6: at the end because we messed it. 470 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 7: Up a little bit. 471 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 6: But like, how can you not love college football when 472 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 6: you have days like this? 473 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 3: Special special? 474 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: So two days to plan the new game plan. That's 475 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 2: an indictment on Penn State. But let's stick with UCLA one. 476 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 2: The new Heiseel stuff was too was cool to I'd 477 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 2: be remiss as somebody who has been very critical of 478 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: Nico Yamaliava, I'll just be honest. If there if any 479 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 2: individual player has played a better game than Nico played 480 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 2: on Saturday, I don't know that I have seen it. 481 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: You know, you talk about Jim Knowles, widely regarded as 482 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 2: the best defensive coordinator in college football. He just they 483 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 2: didn't know what to do with Nico and. 484 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 3: Paid like it too. He's making over three million dollars 485 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 3: well this season at Penn State. 486 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 2: Apparently Nico's the bargain all of a sudden, because seventeen 487 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 2: of twenty four passing two touchdowns, he also had three 488 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: rushing touchdowns one hundred and twenty eight yards. There were 489 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 2: a couple plays where they needed a big play. He 490 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 2: put his shoulder down again. We can acknowledge the way 491 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: that he left Tennessee was not only weird, it was 492 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: bad for him. It was bad for whatever whatever that happened, 493 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 2: that will always be on his Wikipedia page. What we 494 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 2: also have to acknowledge is that for Saturday, he was 495 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 2: the best player on the field. And to your point, 496 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: the dude that's making three million dollars a year to 497 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 2: call defense, to call defenses in college football, had absolutely 498 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: no answer for Niko. 499 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 3: Yam Maliava saw this stat from the Associated Press and yeah, 500 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 3: we dogged out Nico and honestly deservedly so. And so 501 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 3: today you give him his flowers, because this is that 502 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 3: kind of deal where even if he goes on to 503 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 3: do nothing of importance after this, this is that day 504 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 3: he will never forget. This is the day he'll be 505 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 3: able to tell his kids about. This is the day 506 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 3: UCLA likely isn't gonna forget because of everything that kind 507 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 3: of led into it and all of this. But this 508 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 3: stat from the Associated Press is incredible. Players since two 509 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 3: thousand with a hundred with one hundred and twenty five 510 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 3: plus yards rushing and passing, two plus passing touchdowns, three 511 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 3: plus touchdown runs versus a ranked team CAM Newton versus 512 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 3: South Carolina in twenty ten, Johnny Manzel versus Louisiana Tech 513 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 3: in twenty twelve, and Nico Wow versus Penn State. That's it. 514 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 3: That's incredible, that is unbelievable. 515 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 2: Read that stat again. I just want to make sure 516 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 2: I heard that. I mean, I know the particular. 517 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,719 Speaker 3: Since since the turn of the century, since two one 518 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty five plus yards rushing and passing, two 519 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 3: passing touchdowns, three rushing touchdowns ranked team CAM, Johnny Football, 520 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 3: and Nico that is crazy crazy. I mean it was incredible. 521 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 3: I mean it really was like it wasn't that he 522 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 3: was the best player on the field, he was the 523 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 3: best player in America today. He was like it was 524 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,239 Speaker 3: just and it was scintillating to watch, Like it was 525 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 3: captivating once you figured out what was happening in that game. 526 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 3: I bet CBS did some nice ratings. As a second, 527 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 3: I don't know how many people were paying attention to 528 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 3: the first half because there were other games obviously to 529 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 3: pay attention to, and you had arch manning and all 530 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 3: this kind of stuff. Let's just say today was a 531 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 3: great day if you had some kind of television service 532 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 3: that allowed for a multicast because I was watching four 533 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 3: different games at the time, and like at any given moment, 534 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 3: each of them was worthy. You had Virginia Louisville go 535 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 3: into overtime, even past all of this other stuff, but 536 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 3: watching what Nico was doing, it was just like you 537 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 3: kept waiting to see that bubble burst and it never did, 538 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 3: and it was just like, yeah, see, this is the 539 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 3: dude that a couple of years ago people could not 540 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 3: stop gushing over. And look, Gary Danilston called him Vince 541 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 3: Young multiple times in the second half, and it was deserved, sure, 542 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 3: because of that performance. Like I was about to cringe 543 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 3: and send you a text and say I can't believe it, 544 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 3: and then it was just like, wait a second, he 545 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 3: might actually be right, he might be on to something here. 546 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 3: And that last touchdown Nico, when he ran into the corner, 547 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 3: it did look early similar to that play against USC. 548 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 2: Credit Nico Iamaliava. Unbelievable game, unbelievable win for UCLA. And 549 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 2: I think again we could separate two things of what 550 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: does it mean bigger picture, Well, schedule doesn't get any easier. 551 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: Still have Indiana, still have Ohio State, USC whatever you 552 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 2: think is on paper a better team, but for one day, 553 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 2: best story in college football, and Nico, for all the 554 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 2: criticism that he has gotten, he deserves praise. Fox Sports 555 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 2: Radio ertors Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports 556 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 2: Radio Studios. We'll come back. We'll talk of the Penn 557 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: State side of it, because j mart alluded to it. 558 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 2: We got a lot of James Franklin takes to get 559 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: off our chest. But before we do that, let's get 560 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 2: it over the news desk. Steve Seger, what's trending? 561 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 8: Hello, gentlemen. You mentioned Vince Young's name. I heard that 562 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 8: as well on the telecast, and immediately I thought, you know, 563 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 8: Vince Young has played two of the greatest games of 564 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,719 Speaker 8: my adult life on that field. 565 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: Well it was funny because they ran, because I think 566 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 2: it was Nessler said, oh, you know, I think Vince 567 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 2: Young he had a good game here once, right, And 568 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 2: in my head I was like, actually was it was. 569 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 8: The year before against Michigan as well, when he had 570 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 8: four rushing touchdowns Texas thirty eight thirty seven. The next 571 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 8: year was the National Championship fourth quarter comeback against USC 572 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 8: when on nineteen carries Vince Young had two hundred yard rushing, 573 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 8: including the game winner at the other corner on the right. 574 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 8: But UCLA was a forty two to thirty seven winner 575 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 8: against Penn State. As I was watching this, my immediate 576 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 8: thought was, well, A, of course I can't believe this 577 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 8: is happening. B. I won't see a larger shocker this 578 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 8: entire season in college football. UCLA wasn't just zero to 579 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 8: four people. They were horrendous. 580 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 2: Well. 581 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 8: They had never led a second of any game, and 582 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 8: today they never trailed. 583 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: Well, and I think the other thing too. Not only 584 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 2: had they never led, that was the easy part of 585 00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 2: the schedule. New Mexico UNLV and Northwestern, which besides UCLA 586 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 2: coming into today is probably the worst team in the 587 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 2: Big Ten, never led a single second. This is when 588 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 2: it was supposed to get hard go ahead. 589 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 8: Hadn't scored a point in a first quarter, and they 590 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 8: get the first drive, touchdown, recover an onside kick, get 591 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 8: a field goal right after that, built up a lead 592 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 8: by halftime of twenty seven to seven. The final stats 593 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 8: for the winning quarterback Nico Iamalayava on sixteen carries one 594 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 8: hundred and twenty eight yards rushing, three scores plus two 595 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 8: d Tit passes just astounding. What occurred in Pasadena today, 596 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 8: UCLA forty two to thirty seven over A. Well, I 597 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 8: know it's a formerly top ten team. Is it formally 598 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 8: ranked team? 599 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: They should be I don't know if they will be. 600 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 8: I mean that they're ten one two in conference and 601 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 8: their wins. 602 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 3: They shouldn't be ranked. Yeah, they should not be ranked. 603 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 2: Wins are village. 604 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 3: Shouldn't you do? This is why I hate preseason rankings 605 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 3: because this makes it hard to knock them down and 606 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 3: you shouldn't have had. This is an obstacle you shouldn't 607 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 3: have to overcome. They should not be ranked. Who have 608 00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 3: they beaten? 609 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 8: Yeah'd say the same for Texas at three and two 610 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 8: right now, they were ranked number nine in the country 611 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 8: coming in lost at Florida twenty nine twenty one Gators 612 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 8: defense with six sacs. Number three Miami won at Florida 613 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 8: State tonight twenty eight, twenty two. It was twenty eight 614 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 8: to three early in the fourth quarter. Victories for Ohio 615 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 8: State and Oklahoma, wins for Texas A and M and 616 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 8: number ten Alabama, which beats sixteenth rank Vanderbilt thirty to fourteen. 617 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 8: Texas Tech and Georgia each got wins. Cincinnati at home 618 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 8: defeated number fourteen Iowa State thirty eight thirty wins for 619 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 8: Michigan and Notre Dame wins for Illinois and for number 620 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 8: twenty four Virginia in overtime at Louisville thirty to twenty seven. 621 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 8: Louisville had settled for a short field goal on its 622 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 8: possession in the ot And in case you didn't see, 623 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 8: to start the day, Clemson won at North Carolina thirty 624 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 8: eight to ten, and I feel like saying it wasn't 625 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 8: that close and there were almost literally no North Carolina 626 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 8: fans in the stands by mid third quarter of this game. 627 00:31:58,560 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 7: Wow. 628 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 8: As for college football late night, we do have a 629 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 8: couple of games going Cal at home shockingly trying to 630 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 8: go to five and one on the season, is leading 631 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 8: Duke twenty one to seven. In the mid second quarter, 632 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 8: Duke is driving, and in the second quarter it's Fresno 633 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 8: State over Nevada ten to three. TCU did beat Colorado 634 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 8: on Fox TV tonight thirty five to twenty one, Colorado, 635 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 8: oh to three. In conference, Kansas won at UCF. Also, 636 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 8: it was Washington with three touchdowns in the fourth quarter 637 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 8: winning at Maryland twenty four to twenty. Nebraska beat Michigan State. 638 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 8: Memphis is six and oh after ripping Tulsa Navy's five 639 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 8: and oh. After edging Air Force thirty four to thirty one, 640 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 8: Yukon still undefeated at home after ripping Florida International. Yeah heck, 641 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 8: yeah there fifty one to ten the final. Western Kentucky 642 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 8: won last night, going to three and oh. In Conference 643 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 8: USA edge Delaware twenty seven to twenty four. UMass is 644 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 8: OZHO to five after losing at home today twenty one 645 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 8: to three to Western Michigan Raiders. Tight end Rock Bauers 646 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 8: questionable with a knee injury and trending toward not playing 647 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,719 Speaker 8: at Indy tomorrow according to NFL Network, and tight end 648 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 8: Michael Mayer out with a concussion to Major League Baseball. 649 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 8: The late playoff game is going to the eleventh inning 650 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 8: right now. On FS one, Seattle tied two to two 651 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 8: with Detroit. The only scoring for the Tigers a two 652 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 8: run homer in the fifth from Kerrie Carpenter off the 653 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 8: starter George Kirby. Astoundingly, Carpenter has five career hits off 654 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 8: this pitcher Kirby. All five have been home runs. Number 655 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 8: one seed in the AL Toronto beat the Yankees ten 656 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 8: to one. That was a two to one lead in 657 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 8: the seventh. Milwaukee's the number one overall seed. It beat 658 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 8: up the Cubs to start the day nine to three. 659 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 8: Brewers led nine to one in the second inning, but 660 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 8: Milwaukee outfielder Jackson Curio left with hamstring tightness. He went 661 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 8: three for three, three RBIs and an impressive comeback win 662 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 8: for the Dodgers tonight, five to three at Philadelphia in 663 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 8: their opener of a best of five division series. The 664 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 8: win to pitcher show, Hey, O time, you had nine 665 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,959 Speaker 8: strikeouts in six innings, three run homer in the seventh 666 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 8: from tai Oscar Hernandez. In the first three games of 667 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 8: this postseason for LA Well, this is a first in 668 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 8: Major League history. First three games of the playoffs, a 669 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 8: player has at least three homers nine RBIs already, that's 670 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 8: ta Oscar Hernandez. Those National League Best of fives are 671 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 8: off tomorrow. Their Game two's are not until Monday. 672 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve Sager, Fox 673 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Air Tours, Jason Martin broadcasting 674 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 2: live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. We talked about 675 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 2: the UCLA perspective on the win at the Rose Bowl. 676 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 2: But man, oh man, oh man, what does it mean 677 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,760 Speaker 2: for Penn State? What does it mean for James Franklin. 678 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 2: We'll discuss that next Fox Sports Radio. 679 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 680 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio. Aer tors Jason Martin 681 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios, keeping you 682 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 2: up the late game one of the Divisional round of 683 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 2: the Major League Baseball Playoffs. Detroit to Seattle to top 684 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 2: of the eleventh run around second for Detroit, there are 685 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 2: no outs, so the go ahead run and scoring positions. 686 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 2: Seattle is at home, so they will bat last. We 687 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 2: now have one out after a strikeout to open the inning. 688 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,760 Speaker 2: All right, j mart we have to talk about Listen. 689 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 2: There's a reason the term the thrill of victory in 690 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 2: the agony of defeat is a thing, and it's because 691 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 2: it certainly was a thrill for the UCLA Bruins at 692 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl on Saturday getting the win. But there 693 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 2: is the agony of defeat for Penn State. Last week 694 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 2: we were on air with that wild game down what 695 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 2: were they seventeen to three? I believe rally to force overtime, 696 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 2: whatever I only bring it up because, I mean, this 697 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 2: is just crushing, and I'll be quick because there's so 698 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 2: many variables. But you know, this was a team that 699 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: publicly was talking about national championship or bust it going 700 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 2: into the preseason. I bring it up because they're now 701 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 2: three and two, as de Sega just mentioned, zero to 702 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 2: two in the Big Ten, and I'll be real, I 703 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 2: don't really see a pathway for them. I know it's 704 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 2: early to start talking playoff and people get mad, but 705 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 2: they have to play at Ohio State. They have literally 706 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 2: no track record of winning games like that going forward. 707 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 2: If they go nine and three, and that's that's a 708 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 2: big if right now. But even if they go nine 709 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 2: and three, if you lost to Ohio State and you 710 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 2: lost to Oregon and you have a bad loss to UCLA, 711 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 2: you're not getting into the college football playoffs. 712 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 3: So I know. 713 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 2: Today is maybe not the day to talk playoff and 714 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 2: maybe just talk James Franklin. But it doesn't feel hyperbolic 715 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 2: to say that their season is basically unofficially over before 716 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 2: it even began. 717 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean I don't think. I don't think there's 718 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 3: any exaggeration there at all. I think I don't see 719 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 3: a way that they're in the playoff. I just don't. 720 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna be Ohio State, first of all. 721 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 3: But even if they did, I just think this law 722 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 3: l right here, there's just no way. I can't. I 723 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 3: don't see the universe. I mean, this is a team 724 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 3: Aaron that did not play a road game until today, 725 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 3: that's a great point, and lost. This is a team 726 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 3: that prior to Oregon played absolutely nobody whatsoever, and so 727 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 3: against Oregon, the offense didn't look great and they lost 728 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 3: that game, but they did fight back at least in 729 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter and showed a few signs of life. 730 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 3: And then they come out and they're down twenty seven 731 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 3: to seven to a really really bad UCLA team. But 732 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 3: excluding just Penn State as the team itself and just 733 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 3: looking at Franklin, Franklin got summarily out coached by an 734 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 3: interim guy with a program with all the wheels had 735 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 3: already fallen off, and an interim play caller doing it 736 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 3: for the first time. He got out coached. I mean, 737 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 3: and it's easy to see, Like you don't even have 738 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 3: to be a football genius to know that when Nico 739 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 3: was going to walk out of the back of the 740 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 3: end zone. At the end of that game, nobody rushed him, 741 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 3: like nobody came after him at all, and they let 742 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 3: eight seconds go off the clock. 743 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 2: Great call. 744 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 3: The offense that was run was absolutely terrible prior to that. 745 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 3: And then when they get the ball back erin Aler 746 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 3: throws the ball out of bounds, leaves them one play 747 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 3: and it was an absolutely futurid attempt from there, like 748 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 3: they didn't try hell, Mary didn't try anything they were 749 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 3: gonna try. I don't know what it was, but it 750 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 3: had about a zero point zero zero zero one percent 751 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 3: chance of doing anything positive whatsoever. You're James Franklin. You're 752 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 3: making that kind of money eight something a year. You've 753 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 3: got a defensive coordinator making over three. Your offensive coordinator 754 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 3: this year is making over one. You've got twelve million 755 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 3: dollars in three coaching positions on your sideline, and you've 756 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 3: got interim dudes on the other side that are just 757 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 3: foxing you left and right, beating you down. From a 758 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 3: coaching perspective, you just can't have it happen. And like, 759 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 3: if it's championship or bus this year, And I think 760 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 3: this is a question everybody is gonna ask if they 761 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 3: haven't already. If you can't get it done, now, why 762 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 3: would we ever think you could get it done? Because 763 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 3: it seemed like everything was right where it needed to be. 764 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 3: And then all the excuses that have been made about well, 765 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 3: there's just they don't have the wide receivers that they need. Well, 766 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 3: maybe the wide receiver's transferred because they weren't getting any 767 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 3: better and they weren't sure about the guy throwing them 768 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 3: the football. And the other thing that I think this 769 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 3: is pretty striking about the Penn State program is that 770 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,919 Speaker 3: almost nobody gets there and gets better. Like they can 771 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 3: recruit really talented people, but they either regress or they 772 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,839 Speaker 3: are what they are. Like it is a very very 773 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 3: very short list of anybody that you see progression from. 774 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 3: And oftentimes when you see people leave that program, they 775 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 3: get better, whether it's Will Levis or whether it'sa Perbulah 776 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,959 Speaker 3: like whoever it is, seems like once they get out 777 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 3: of there, they're kind of unleashed in some way. I 778 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 3: don't know what to say about that other than I 779 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 3: don't see how how James Franklin can stay there too 780 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 3: much longer, except that it's a fifty million dollar buyout, 781 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 3: and so unless he walks away and pays two million 782 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 3: dollars at the end of the year. That's a lot 783 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 3: of money to send. 784 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 2: Him packing really quickly. We do have an update in 785 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 2: the baseball game. Detroit has taken a three to two 786 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 2: lead Zach McKinstry single. The Mariners got out of it otherwise, 787 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 2: but as we go to the bottom of the eleventh, 788 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 2: it is three to two Mariners, three outs away from 789 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 2: losing Game one. Fox Sports Radio, come back more, James Franklin, 790 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 2: WA NFL. Fox Sports Radio. 791 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 792 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 2: Welcome man, everybody, hour two towards Martin. Fox Sports Radio. 793 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios 794 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 2: here at midnight Eastern lot going out of the world 795 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 2: of sports. As de Seger just told you, Game one 796 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 2: of the Divisional series between the Tigers and Mariners is 797 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 2: in the bottom of the eleventh Tigers one out away 798 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,399 Speaker 2: from taking a one to zero series lead in this 799 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,800 Speaker 2: series opener, and in a whole lot of college football 800 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 2: as well. We will keep you updated on the baseball game. 801 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:35,320 Speaker 2: See if it goes final. Speaking of baseball. Speaking of baseball, 802 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 2: during the baseball postseason, Strauss made history as the first 803 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 2: brand ever on helmets family owns. 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That 813 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 2: wraps up obviously, what was a busy day across the 814 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 2: world of Major League Baseball where the Tigers have now 815 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 2: taken a game one series win along with the Blue 816 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 2: Jays in the AL and in the NL. Milwaukee and 817 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 2: the Dodgers are up one nothing in their respective series 818 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 2: as well. J Mart, just want to put a bow 819 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 2: real quick on college football. We were talking, by the way, 820 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 2: tomorrow on Sunday, we have two Divisional Round games, both 821 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 2: the AL series. The NL resumes on Monday. So I 822 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 2: do want to ask you, J Mart about just really quickly, 823 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 2: and we want we gotta get some other stuff, a 824 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 2: lot of NFL WNBA, of course, as the WNBA turn 825 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 2: is fascinating, but really quickly. We didn't really get a 826 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 2: chance to put a bow on the Penn State perspective 827 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,439 Speaker 2: James Franklin and everything that happened there. And I would 828 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 2: just ask you, I mean, I think I know the answer. 829 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 2: Is there anything they can do? Because James Franklin is 830 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 2: under contract until twenty thirty one. His current buyout is 831 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 2: somewhere in the neighborhood of fifty million dollars, and it's just, 832 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 2: you know, it's one of those deals where, you know, 833 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 2: I was telling I was talking to Monzi kind of 834 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 2: as as the show's kind of you know, as we 835 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 2: kind of passed Steven Monsey in the hallways here, and 836 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 2: you know, I said, it's kind of you know, this 837 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 2: was the the deal you made with James Franklin. Okay, 838 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 2: like you're you might never win the big game, but 839 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 2: at least you never lose the games that you're not 840 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 2: supposed to do well. Losing as a close to twenty 841 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 2: eight point underdog at UCLA, you just can't do it. 842 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:58,240 Speaker 2: And I do think, especially in this year, especially given 843 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 2: those circumstances. I don't know what Penn State does. I 844 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 2: don't have the answer, but it's just it's bad. It's 845 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 2: really bad. And again, as mentioned, if they lose to 846 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 2: Ohio State, I just I don't see a pathway to 847 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,839 Speaker 2: them to the college football Playoff and what a disappointment 848 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 2: that would be. 849 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't know what else you're really 850 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 3: supposed to say, fifty million somewhere thereabouts, depending on the 851 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 3: laws in the state and all that, or if he 852 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 3: were to choose to walk away, he pays two million dollars. 853 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 3: And you know, I was reading a piece from Chris 854 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 3: Vanini and some others after the game saying maybe they 855 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 3: need to part ways, maybe that's best for all parties 856 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 3: and all this, like, yeah, well, obviously there are going 857 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 3: to be schools that still want to hire James Franklin. 858 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 3: It's not like he's not a good football coach. I 859 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 3: just don't know that this thing has maybe reached about 860 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 3: its peak and maybe there is a sea wing for 861 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 3: James Franklin. I don't know, Like I've always said, like 862 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,799 Speaker 3: I said, I met him coming into our studios in 863 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,360 Speaker 3: Nashville back when I was still working on the local 864 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 3: station here, and I just felt like I was talking 865 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 3: to a used car salesman. Sure like he was definitely 866 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 3: a nice enough guy, but I also it was just like, ah, yeah, 867 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 3: I don't know that I really buy this, Like you 868 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 3: pull it off and I can see like how you 869 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 3: can sit in people's living rooms and they buy it. 870 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 3: But it just there was a snake oil feeling to it. 871 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 3: And game day I was just never particularly impressed, like 872 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 3: a Vanderbilt sure like he wanted Vanderbilt in a way 873 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 3: that we hadn't seen until well now with what we're 874 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 3: seeing with Clark Lee and what they've done there, even 875 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 3: though they lost to Bama on Saturday. But James Franklin 876 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,439 Speaker 3: going to Penn State, this is kind of what he's 877 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 3: been outside of as you mentioned, and you said it 878 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 3: last week. You know, he doesn't lose the games you're 879 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 3: not supposed to lose. Well, this is the game you 880 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 3: absolutely are not supposed to lose. This is the game 881 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,240 Speaker 3: that gets you laughed at by the college football world. 882 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 3: This is the game that has everybody on the Penn 883 00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 3: State campus googling how big your buyout is. In the 884 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 3: third quarter, and again they still had an opportunity to 885 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 3: win that game near the end, and whatever was going 886 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 3: on with time management, with game management, with play call, 887 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,800 Speaker 3: everything fell completely apart for them. And there was something 888 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 3: else that I happened to notice that I imagine a 889 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 3: lot of people did. James Franklin just kind of stood 890 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 3: on the sidelines, yeph, Like there was not a sense 891 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 3: of urgency. It was very strange, Like just watching it 892 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 3: was odd. It was like he was resigning his team 893 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 3: to their fate. He was resigned to his own fate, 894 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 3: like there was no animation in it. I don't know 895 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 3: what to say about it. Like we talked about this 896 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 3: last year. As a matter of fact, Ryan. 897 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 2: Day, Yeah, I was thinking that there was a. 898 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 3: Moment where Ryan Day looked shell shocked yep, like he 899 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 3: didn't like, we didn't even know what I guess it 900 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 3: was a Michigan game, right, Yeah, absolutely it was. Yeah, 901 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 3: So like I sensed the same thing, and maybe it 902 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 3: ends as well for James Franklin as it did for 903 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 3: Ryan Day. This thing is it has Kareem completely off 904 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 3: the tracks. And again, if they don't make the playoff, 905 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,840 Speaker 3: I mean, how does he come back? I understand the buyout, 906 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 3: but how much are alumni gonna start paying boosters collectives 907 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,919 Speaker 3: all this to try and do something different, because right 908 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,439 Speaker 3: now what we're seeing is Penn State's a second tier 909 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 3: Big Ten program. They're right back to that spot where 910 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, they are right, but when they play 911 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 3: against the big dogs, they're gonna lose. I mean, that's 912 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 3: just kind of the way you feel going into it. 913 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,479 Speaker 3: And really until the fourth quarter last week, we saw 914 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 3: that from them against Oregon, and then we saw signs 915 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 3: of life in that game. It's like, Okay, this is 916 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 3: what's different about this Penn State team than the others. 917 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,320 Speaker 3: And then what you saw against Ucla, it's like, no, 918 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 3: this is what's different about these Penn State teams this 919 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 3: year than the others, because the Penn State teams of 920 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 3: old would not have done this. We even saw this 921 00:47:55,640 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 3: with a James Franklin team last year against USC this 922 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:05,239 Speaker 3: year against Ucla, of all teams in football not basketball 923 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,319 Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety six, they found a way to lose 924 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 3: this game. And I honestly believe the coaching was absolutely 925 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,839 Speaker 3: futrid from Penn State in this game, and I just 926 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,840 Speaker 3: I think it was right there on display for everybody 927 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 3: to see it. It was a talking point, and it 928 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,319 Speaker 3: was just like, Yeah, I think James Franklin is in 929 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 3: over seat and I think he's reached a ceiling and 930 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 3: I just don't buy into him as a national championship 931 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 3: level coach. And now I think even if you were 932 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 3: more on his side and less willing to be that 933 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,240 Speaker 3: pessimistic about it, it's hard to defend what happened on Saturday, 934 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 3: and it's hard to defend Penn State keeping him around 935 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 3: if financially they can find a way out of it. 936 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll just say this really quick, to put a 937 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 2: bow on it. He is a guy that in the past, 938 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 2: you know, whenever it was time for a new contract, 939 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 2: would very publicly flirt with other places, and sometimes when 940 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,760 Speaker 2: it not even when it was time for a new contract. 941 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I just vividly remember when the 942 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 2: LSU job, when the USC job opens, So the man 943 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,240 Speaker 2: is not above flirting with another job. But I wonder 944 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 2: if if the right opportunity, I'll give you a crazy one, 945 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,799 Speaker 2: j mart Right, I was thinking about this while we 946 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 2: were talking. So I remember when the u US I 947 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 2: think the USC job had maybe opened more than once, 948 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,320 Speaker 2: and he was linked to it. Oh, he's a great recruiter. 949 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 2: He's got pizzaz, he's this and that. What about Ucla? 950 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 2: What about Ucla? I don't know if it will. I 951 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 2: don't know if it would, but I'm just talking out 952 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,919 Speaker 2: loud here. They need somebody that's gonna sell the program. 953 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:36,799 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess he could go back because they 954 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,279 Speaker 2: can't fire him, but he don't. I don't know. It 955 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 2: was just it was just something that popped into my head. 956 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 2: It would be very interesting. And by the way, I 957 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 2: think Ucla obviously, if they had a chance to get him, 958 00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 2: I think you would have to do it. It was 959 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 2: just a thought that popped into my head though while 960 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 2: you were talking. 961 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean I I've seen this in a 962 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 3: couple of different places since that game ended. I don't 963 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 3: know that it's a perfect comparison, but there there is 964 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,439 Speaker 3: something to it that James Franklin is the new Mark 965 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 3: rickt Yeah, I think it's totally fair that Georgia, like 966 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,920 Speaker 3: Mark Rick, won all the games he was supposed to win, 967 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:15,799 Speaker 3: but he couldn't beat Florida and obviously Alabama and it 968 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,319 Speaker 3: was a different time. But after beating Saban the first time, 969 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,719 Speaker 3: he really never sniffed doing anything like that again, and 970 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,879 Speaker 3: it felt like the rest of the East and even 971 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,839 Speaker 3: the rest of the SEC was getting further away from him. 972 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 3: He wasn't. It was in the opposite of the direction 973 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,359 Speaker 3: that you wanted to go. And you look at Penn 974 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 3: State and who's like, well, they peaked last year, and 975 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 3: you felt like bringing Aler back and you know, Kate 976 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 3: Tron's back and Singleton's back, and like they've got so 977 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,880 Speaker 3: much of this talent back that they can't help but 978 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,399 Speaker 3: be right there on the doorstep of the championship again. 979 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 3: And now they're going to be right there on the 980 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 3: doorstep of the Music City Bowl if they're not careful. 981 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 3: And I just don't think that's what Penn State signed 982 00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 3: up for. 983 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 2: Shots fired at the Music City. 984 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,839 Speaker 3: Bawl oh my, No, that's right. I mean that's right 985 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,439 Speaker 3: here in Nashville. National Sports Council does a great job 986 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,439 Speaker 3: and it's a great event. I'm just saying, like, that's 987 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 3: not what we we weren't looking for. Kid klub Nick 988 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 3: versus Drew Aller and the Alamo Bowl, and we might 989 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 3: be on the on the verge of that right now. 990 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 2: Well, the good news is they can both opt out 991 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:16,879 Speaker 2: to be third round NFL draft picks. 992 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 3: That's a good point. Yeah. 993 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,399 Speaker 2: So all right, I'll tell you what we don't have. Well, 994 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,480 Speaker 2: we have plenty of time. We got another hour and 995 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 2: a half. But let's dive in and we can spend 996 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 2: as much or as little time as you want. A 997 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:35,239 Speaker 2: hard pivot from James Franklin INEPT, leader of men, to 998 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 2: how about leader of INEPT, leader of women, Kathy Engelbert. Okay, 999 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 2: so you myself, producer, Ian, we've been texting about this 1000 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 2: all week. I find it absolutely fascinating. But we all, 1001 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,759 Speaker 2: I think everybody knows that what has happened over the 1002 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 2: last couple of days. Okay, So the w NBA is 1003 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 2: in the middle of a contract or in the middle 1004 00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,920 Speaker 2: of a collective bargaining agreement. Obviously, if they cannot agree, 1005 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 2: in theory, there could be a lockout after this season. 1006 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,400 Speaker 2: Bring it up because by now you've probably heard an 1007 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 2: Officia Colliers comments the FESIA callers thehead of the players association. 1008 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,560 Speaker 2: She basically said that Kathy Engelbert said that players should 1009 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 2: be on their knees thanking her for the deal that 1010 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,400 Speaker 2: they got her, that Caitlyn Clark should be on her 1011 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 2: knees thanking her because she should be so should be 1012 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,319 Speaker 2: grateful she makes sixteen million off the court, because. 1013 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 3: She'd make nothing without her. I think was the quote exactly, 1014 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 3: So goodness gracious. 1015 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 2: So there's been a few developments. Let's first get to 1016 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 2: what happened on Friday night, Game one of the WNBA Finals, 1017 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 2: which is maybe another conversation for another day, but they 1018 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,320 Speaker 2: did the State of the Union conversation with Kathy Engelbert. 1019 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,279 Speaker 2: She was asked about in THEFICIA callers comments. Here is 1020 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 2: what she had to say. Did you in fact say 1021 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,319 Speaker 2: that quote players should be on their knees thanking their 1022 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,279 Speaker 2: lucky stars for the right steal that I got them. 1023 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,160 Speaker 9: There's a lot of inaccuracy out there through social media 1024 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,440 Speaker 9: and all this reporting. Have been in touch with the FISA. 1025 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 9: We've exchanged texts, we're talking next week. So I think 1026 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,120 Speaker 9: there's a lot of emotion and passion going on right 1027 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,880 Speaker 9: now because we're in collective bargaining, we're in the WNBA Finals, 1028 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:13,919 Speaker 9: and so I'll leave it there. 1029 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,759 Speaker 2: Well, that's very interesting because that was on Friday night, 1030 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 2: in the lead up to Game one of the w 1031 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:20,240 Speaker 2: NBA Finals. 1032 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,600 Speaker 3: So they're gonna be meeting huh, meeting next week. 1033 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 2: Well, they've been texting and they're gonna meet next week. 1034 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,800 Speaker 2: Oh wait, no they're not. They're not screeching tires sound 1035 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 2: effect because Ramona Shelburne and Kendra Andrews of the of 1036 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:38,360 Speaker 2: ESPN Excuse Me reported that quote. Yes, Collier had previously 1037 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,799 Speaker 2: texted Ingelbert that she was open to meeting next week 1038 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 2: to discuss the criticism of the league. Nafisa Collier has 1039 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:49,160 Speaker 2: canceled that meeting. They will no longer meet going forward, 1040 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,400 Speaker 2: and it is based off of Kathy Ingelbert's comments on Friday, 1041 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 2: essentially calling Nafisa Collier a liar. Nafeasta Collier through sources, 1042 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 2: essentially saying that she can't trust her after calling her 1043 00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:05,359 Speaker 2: a liar publicly. So jmart as the WNBA turns, But man, 1044 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:06,560 Speaker 2: go ahead take it away. 1045 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,239 Speaker 3: What is this league? Like? I mean really like they? 1046 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,759 Speaker 3: I think they played a finals game on Friday night? 1047 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:16,440 Speaker 3: Was it Friday? Was it Thursday? 1048 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,080 Speaker 2: I can I even jump in on that? 1049 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:18,520 Speaker 3: Really? Yoch? 1050 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,920 Speaker 2: Yes, So I was in Vegas for a conference on 1051 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:26,799 Speaker 2: Thursday Friday. So Friday, Friday night, conference ends. Go back 1052 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,880 Speaker 2: to the casino. I'm walking around just looking for a 1053 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 2: bite to eat. Nobody's around. 1054 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:30,480 Speaker 7: It's just me. 1055 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 2: We've all been in these situations just looking for something, 1056 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 2: sports bar, whatever. But you're I'm sure I know you 1057 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,240 Speaker 2: don't gamble, but I'm sure you've maybe been to a casino, Jmart, 1058 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,960 Speaker 2: TV's everywhere, Okay, of course, right, And I bring it 1059 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 2: up because w NBA Finals Game one is literally going on, 1060 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,280 Speaker 2: probably less than a mile from where I was currently sitting. 1061 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 2: I think I saw one TV that was that had 1062 00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 2: that game on. And I only bring that because I 1063 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 2: don't even know that I would have known it was 1064 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:07,000 Speaker 2: game one if not for social media. So that shows 1065 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,040 Speaker 2: you how much buzz there's been in these playoffs without 1066 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark, without Angel Reaves, without Page Beckers, whatever. But 1067 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,080 Speaker 2: it also speaks to what is this league as they 1068 00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 2: go into their collective bargaining agreement, which, oh, by the way, 1069 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,359 Speaker 2: doesn't sound like it's going to go very well when 1070 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,640 Speaker 2: the head of the players union will refuse to meet 1071 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 2: with the commissioner going for it. 1072 00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:36,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I I saw, and I joked with I 1073 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,840 Speaker 3: joked with you guys in the text chain like a 1074 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:44,279 Speaker 3: day ago. I saw piece online at ESPN. Yes, of 1075 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,000 Speaker 3: course they have a bit of an investment in the WNBA. 1076 00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 3: I saw this article title. I did not read the 1077 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:54,560 Speaker 3: article because I had other things to do. Shoes to 1078 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 3: alphabetize whatever it was. There was something I had to do. 1079 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 3: The article was entitled the Fifth Tea most Important Players 1080 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 3: in the WNBA Finals. When I sent it to you, 1081 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,320 Speaker 3: I said playoffs because I was like it could Originally 1082 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,440 Speaker 3: I was going to say finals, and then I was like, no, 1083 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,719 Speaker 3: it had to be playoffs because there's no way they 1084 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,960 Speaker 3: would try to pick fifteen players out of the finals. 1085 00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,239 Speaker 3: They didn't even do that with the men. But no, 1086 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,920 Speaker 3: it was the finals. And my joke to you was, 1087 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 3: the fifteen most important players in the finals? Are there 1088 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 3: three in the league, But more than that is fifteen 1089 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 3: players that are important in the finals would be both 1090 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:38,400 Speaker 3: starting fives and players off the bench, multiple on both teams. 1091 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,880 Speaker 3: What are we even doing here? Title it what you 1092 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,000 Speaker 3: should title it is. Here are fifteen players you've never 1093 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,440 Speaker 3: heard of before that you're about to see if you 1094 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,319 Speaker 3: tune into this game. I know that sounds harsh, but 1095 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,720 Speaker 3: let's just be honest here and what you've got from 1096 00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:57,719 Speaker 3: Engelbert Humper Dank or whatever it is, what you've got 1097 00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:02,080 Speaker 3: from her and what call your said when I saw 1098 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,480 Speaker 3: what she had said to Collier, and then Collier said 1099 00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,400 Speaker 3: this out loud and said we have the worst leadership 1100 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,400 Speaker 3: and then said what was quoted my first thought, and 1101 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 3: I sent it to you immediately. I was just like, 1102 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:15,640 Speaker 3: I see this and this woman should be fired immediately. 1103 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 3: Kathy Engelbert should be fired immediately. She clearly is not 1104 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 3: doing anything in the best interest to the business and 1105 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,320 Speaker 3: has no idea what she is doing. And of course 1106 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,560 Speaker 3: she takes a shot at Caitlin Clark, and Caitlin Clark 1107 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 3: would make zero dollars if it wasn't for me, Hun peaches, 1108 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 3: she was making big time money at Iowa. She needs you. 1109 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 3: She could actually, instead of worrying about NBA two K 1110 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 3: twenty six, she could sign a deal with another video 1111 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 3: game manufacturer and call it Caitlin Clark Basketball and it 1112 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:55,200 Speaker 3: would sell like hotcakes. She's a force. She is your league. 1113 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,520 Speaker 3: The second most important player in your league is Angel Reees. 1114 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,560 Speaker 3: And it's not because of Angel Reese. It's because of 1115 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 3: her close proximity to Kaitlyn Clark as the joker to 1116 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,360 Speaker 3: the batman. And then you've got and we talked about this, 1117 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 3: you know before the show's probably Page Beckers, and outside 1118 00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 3: of that, because she's a rookie, and. 1119 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,680 Speaker 2: And I would go ahead, now I do no, And 1120 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,440 Speaker 2: all I was going to say was, you know, I'm 1121 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,080 Speaker 2: I'm quick to always throw out the Yukon fun facts, 1122 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 2: but I think a big part of Paige Becker's broader appeal. 1123 00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,280 Speaker 2: Now I want to be careful here because she was 1124 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:33,400 Speaker 2: she is very popular among certain demographics that love women's basketball. Okay, yes, 1125 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:37,960 Speaker 2: but what I would also say is she became mainstream 1126 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:43,520 Speaker 2: to college seasons ago when Caitlyn Clark was still in college. 1127 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 2: Paige Beckers leads Yukon to a Final four coming off 1128 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:51,440 Speaker 2: of multiple injuries, and the conversation became, you know, Page 1129 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,240 Speaker 2: was actually rated ahead of Kaitlyn Clark when she was 1130 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,919 Speaker 2: fully healthy. Blah blah blah blah blah. And so I think, 1131 00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,400 Speaker 2: as much as I love Page Beckers, as much as 1132 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,880 Speaker 2: I'm a Yukon, I would acknowledge that a lot of 1133 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:07,720 Speaker 2: Paige Becker's national coming out party was still relative to 1134 00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,720 Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark. And oh they were once upon a time 1135 00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,160 Speaker 2: in the same recruiting class in Page Beckers was actually 1136 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:13,920 Speaker 2: rated ahead of her. 1137 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,160 Speaker 3: So yeah, so I know we did do a break, 1138 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,960 Speaker 3: so I'll just say this and we can carry it 1139 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:23,880 Speaker 3: on it in some in some capacity. But the disdain 1140 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:29,800 Speaker 3: with which those impositions of power, just the disdain that 1141 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 3: they hold for Caitlin Clark, is so unbelievably counterproductive that 1142 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,160 Speaker 3: it's almost like they would rather And I said this, 1143 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 3: I've said this before, and I said it kind of 1144 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,200 Speaker 3: and I was just like, it's got to be hyperboly. 1145 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,360 Speaker 3: I'm not sure it is. I'm not sure they would. 1146 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 3: They wouldn't rather fail than succeed because of her, because 1147 00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:55,800 Speaker 3: they all could have risen with her, and instead they've 1148 00:59:55,800 --> 01:00:01,360 Speaker 3: become the most unlikable athletes perhaps in the world, because 1149 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 3: of how they have treated this one woman who did 1150 01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:08,280 Speaker 3: nothing to them and came into the league and actually 1151 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,760 Speaker 3: could have helped raise the level of interest in that 1152 01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,760 Speaker 3: league long term. Maybe you could have built some other 1153 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:19,000 Speaker 3: stars out of this. But instead you've acted like petulant children, 1154 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 3: You've acted like mean girls. You don't like what she 1155 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,320 Speaker 3: stands for, you don't like that she doesn't represent the 1156 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,439 Speaker 3: right classifications for you, and so as a result, you've 1157 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 3: beaten her physically on the floor and you've continually taken 1158 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,120 Speaker 3: shots at her off the floor, and now you've got 1159 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,080 Speaker 3: the commissioner of the league saying she should thank her 1160 01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,600 Speaker 3: lucky Stars for the deal that she got because that's 1161 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,040 Speaker 3: the only way she's making money. She could walk away 1162 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,480 Speaker 3: from basketball right now and make tens of millions of 1163 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,120 Speaker 3: dollars in this country. And I kind of wish she would. 1164 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,720 Speaker 3: I wish she didn't like basketball so much, because the 1165 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:56,720 Speaker 3: second that she walks away, this league ceases to exist 1166 01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:57,960 Speaker 3: and we'd all be better off. 1167 01:00:58,200 --> 01:00:59,920 Speaker 2: Well, I just wish she just wasn't so loyal to 1168 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,880 Speaker 2: bunch of people that don't care about her actively maybe 1169 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,640 Speaker 2: don't let not maybe they do not like her. I'll 1170 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 2: tell you what, Jamart, you're fired up. I'm fired up. 1171 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,440 Speaker 2: Let's come back, continue this conversation. I'll tell you a 1172 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 2: funny story that I heard over the course of the 1173 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,520 Speaker 2: last couple of days. Like I said, traveling doing a 1174 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,920 Speaker 2: work thing. We'll just keep this conversation going about the WNBA, 1175 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:19,200 Speaker 2: and oh, by the way, we got to get to 1176 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 2: a lot of NFL football, should mention. By the way, 1177 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,040 Speaker 2: be sure to check out DraftKings sportsbook and official sports 1178 01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,440 Speaker 2: betting partner of the NFL. Right now, use promo code 1179 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,920 Speaker 2: Fox Game. That's Fox Game to claim your special offer 1180 01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,680 Speaker 2: at DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. Don't forget that's 1181 01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:38,880 Speaker 2: promo code Fox Game. We'll come back. We'll continue a 1182 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:43,120 Speaker 2: fascinating conversation on the state of the WNBA. A lot 1183 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:44,960 Speaker 2: to discuss. Ertors Jason Martin. 1184 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,160 Speaker 3: Fox Sports. 1185 01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio. Ertorius Jason Martin broadcasting 1186 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,120 Speaker 2: live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. We got to 1187 01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:58,480 Speaker 2: continue that conversation on the w NBA in just a moment. 1188 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,680 Speaker 2: Should mention, by the way, be sure to subscribe to 1189 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,880 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radios YouTube channel. Just search Fox Sports Radio 1190 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 2: on YouTube and you'll see our best videos from all 1191 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,720 Speaker 2: of our shows. Don't stop there either, hit that thumbs 1192 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,400 Speaker 2: up icon and common away. Let us know who takes 1193 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,760 Speaker 2: you like, who's takes you like, and who's you don't. 1194 01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,400 Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube. All right to 1195 01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 2: Saga has his extended update coming up in just about 1196 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,840 Speaker 2: ten minutes, but we will go over to the news 1197 01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,880 Speaker 2: desk for a quick update on what's going on right 1198 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:26,800 Speaker 2: now in the world of sports. My man, take it away. 1199 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,000 Speaker 8: We'll get to college football in a second. Have to 1200 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,280 Speaker 8: mention that former quarterback Mark Sanchez was arrested at a 1201 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:37,680 Speaker 8: hospital after stab wounds on three misdemeanor charges, including public intoxication. 1202 01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:41,360 Speaker 8: Sanchez was in Indianapolis to work the Colt game tomorrow 1203 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,800 Speaker 8: for Fox TV. He will not I have read it 1204 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,640 Speaker 8: will be Chris Myers and Brady Quinn. 1205 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:45,800 Speaker 5: Now. 1206 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,120 Speaker 8: There was an incident downtown after midnight early this morning. 1207 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,320 Speaker 8: Raiders tight end Brock Bauers is questionable for that game 1208 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,720 Speaker 8: with a knee injury, and it's trending toward not playing 1209 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,560 Speaker 8: at India according to NFL Network, and tight end Michael 1210 01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,400 Speaker 8: Mayer is out with a concussion. The Titans act debated 1211 01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,960 Speaker 8: running back Tija Spears after a high ankle sprain in preseason. 1212 01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,920 Speaker 8: The Saints activated tight ends Taysom Hill and Foster Moreau. 1213 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,520 Speaker 8: The Jets waived Isaiah Williams after mistakes on special teams, 1214 01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,000 Speaker 8: and Braylan Allen is out at least two months for 1215 01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,320 Speaker 8: him with a knee injury. Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson is 1216 01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,360 Speaker 8: out tomorrow hamstring injury, so Cooper Rush will make his 1217 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,000 Speaker 8: first start for Baltimore, which is one in three, and 1218 01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:26,800 Speaker 8: Washington quarterback Jaden Daniels return Sunday. At the Chargers after 1219 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,600 Speaker 8: the sprain knee, he practiced fully all week. Wide receiver 1220 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,280 Speaker 8: Terry McLaurin is out with a quad injury. In late 1221 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,200 Speaker 8: night college football, Duke has come back to lead at 1222 01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:39,120 Speaker 8: halftime at Cal thirty one twenty one. Here, California had 1223 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,800 Speaker 8: scored touchdowns on its first three drives of a game 1224 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,000 Speaker 8: for the first time ever under coach Justin Wilcox. They 1225 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,840 Speaker 8: had almost one hundred and seventy yards passing in the 1226 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,560 Speaker 8: first quarter and a half, and Cal at four and 1227 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:52,800 Speaker 8: one is not leading at the break down at home 1228 01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,800 Speaker 8: thirty one to twenty one to Duke. The other late 1229 01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 8: game is not with Hawaii. Whai is off this weekend, 1230 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,800 Speaker 8: but for most of the rest of the season, Hawaii 1231 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,520 Speaker 8: would be the late game. Tonight at Fresno State early 1232 01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:07,840 Speaker 8: third quarter, Bulldogs lead Nevada twenty to three. Also in 1233 01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:11,120 Speaker 8: college football, UNLV's five and oh after winning in the 1234 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 8: snow at Wyoming thirty one seventeen. Oregon State now oho 1235 01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,760 Speaker 8: to six after losing at Appstate twenty seven twenty three. 1236 01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:22,080 Speaker 8: Miami held on at Florida State twenty eight to twenty two. 1237 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,959 Speaker 8: UCLA with the Monsters upset of number seven Penn State 1238 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,439 Speaker 8: forty two thirty seven, Florida at home beat ninth rank 1239 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:33,600 Speaker 8: Texas twenty nine, twenty one wins for Alabama, Georgia, and 1240 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:37,040 Speaker 8: Cincinnati at home beat fourteenth rank to Iowa State thirty 1241 01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:40,480 Speaker 8: eight to thirty. The late night ballgame, a division series 1242 01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:42,800 Speaker 8: opener in the best of five, went to Detroit in 1243 01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,480 Speaker 8: eleven innings, three to two. At Seattle, top seeded Toronto 1244 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,920 Speaker 8: pulled away for a ten to one win over the Yankees. 1245 01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,920 Speaker 8: The Dodgers had an impressive comeback down three to nothing 1246 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,640 Speaker 8: at Philadelphia going to the sixth LA took at five 1247 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,080 Speaker 8: to three, and also in a best of five opener, 1248 01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:01,080 Speaker 8: the top overall seed, the Milwaukee Brewers led the Cubs 1249 01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,000 Speaker 8: nine to one in the second inning, nine to three. 1250 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:08,560 Speaker 8: The final WNBA Finals Game two is Sunday afternoon. Las 1251 01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,800 Speaker 8: Vegas took Friday night's opener against Phoenix, and there was 1252 01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,400 Speaker 8: another NBA preseason game in Abu Dhabi today again. The 1253 01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:19,560 Speaker 8: next beat Philadelphia Jalen Brunson fourteen points in seventeen minutes. 1254 01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,720 Speaker 8: New Orleans is playing in Melbourne again and in Puerto Rico, 1255 01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,000 Speaker 8: Orlando defeated Miami back to you. 1256 01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,400 Speaker 2: Thank you very much Steve Seger has mentioned to Sega 1257 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,320 Speaker 2: will be back in just a few moments with his 1258 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:33,160 Speaker 2: extended update. Plenty more to react to Fox Sports Radio 1259 01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,000 Speaker 2: er Towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Fox Sports 1260 01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,080 Speaker 2: Radio studios. So listen, we got plenty of NFL a 1261 01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:43,520 Speaker 2: hour three. We got plenty of college football as well, Jamart, 1262 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,480 Speaker 2: I think we had just got to continue this conversation 1263 01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,280 Speaker 2: with a WNBA. I mean, it's fascinating and I don't 1264 01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:52,680 Speaker 2: know if everyone can hear all of the promos that 1265 01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,560 Speaker 2: run during the commercial break, Jamar, did you hear what 1266 01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,760 Speaker 2: the two pros guys said? Yes, they basically said exactly. 1267 01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,240 Speaker 2: They did the same segment that we just did. And 1268 01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,240 Speaker 2: for people who missed it, what we were talking about 1269 01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,400 Speaker 2: before the break is the state of the WNBA. The 1270 01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:13,240 Speaker 2: WNBA Players Association is now refusing to meet with Kathy Engelbert, 1271 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:18,520 Speaker 2: the GM, I thought, Brady, Jonas and LeVar, what did 1272 01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,600 Speaker 2: I say, GM? I don't know why, I said, Jim, 1273 01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 2: she's a commissioner for now. We'll see how long that lasts. 1274 01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:29,680 Speaker 2: But Jonah said what I said, which is listen, I 1275 01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,440 Speaker 2: just don't like any of these people, like what you 1276 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:36,760 Speaker 2: were saying before the break is they had this window. 1277 01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:40,440 Speaker 2: All that I realized by consuming more WNBA is how 1278 01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:44,280 Speaker 2: unlikable basically everybody else is in this league. LeVar basically 1279 01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,080 Speaker 2: said what you said, which is like, I'll give anybody 1280 01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,480 Speaker 2: any dollar amount if you can name players besides Asiah Wilson. 1281 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:52,400 Speaker 2: And I thought Brady brought up a good point too. 1282 01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:55,880 Speaker 2: It's not the commissioner's job to be the friends of 1283 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,320 Speaker 2: the players. It's to do what's best for league and ownership. 1284 01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:02,640 Speaker 2: So I just bring it circle because it's contentious. I 1285 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,040 Speaker 2: think there's going to be a lockout. I don't know 1286 01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:09,120 Speaker 2: that anybody cares, but it is just a wild story 1287 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,320 Speaker 2: that obviously took a lot of twists. The most recent 1288 01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:15,520 Speaker 2: one from earlier today the commissioner said, or the players 1289 01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:19,560 Speaker 2: association saying they refuse to meet with the commissioner going forward. 1290 01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:23,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. So I found it interesting too that you heard 1291 01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,000 Speaker 3: it because I was listening during a break, and sometimes, 1292 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,160 Speaker 3: of course i'll get up and walk away, but I 1293 01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,280 Speaker 3: was here during this whole one, and I listened to it, 1294 01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:32,240 Speaker 3: and I was thinking about what Brady was saying, in 1295 01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:36,800 Speaker 3: particular about you know, nobody in any sport likes their commissioner, 1296 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,200 Speaker 3: and I agree with that to the point. But it 1297 01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:44,440 Speaker 3: was just kind of the idea that let's say Adam 1298 01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:52,440 Speaker 3: Silver said to somebody inside the league something disparaging about 1299 01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:58,480 Speaker 3: Luka or about Nikola Jokic or somebody like that, and 1300 01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:02,480 Speaker 3: then that person then took it made that public. Yeah, 1301 01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:08,840 Speaker 3: Like there's a massive difference between animosity between the players 1302 01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:12,320 Speaker 3: and the league itself, the league ownership and all of that, 1303 01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,160 Speaker 3: where they represent the owners more than they do the players, 1304 01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:19,040 Speaker 3: and especially the players' unions in a negotiating situation. And 1305 01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:22,880 Speaker 3: what we've seen here, but more than anything else, Engelbert's 1306 01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:28,599 Speaker 3: comments seems so ludicrous, but they are absolutely believable because 1307 01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,080 Speaker 3: of everything else that this league has stood for over 1308 01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,639 Speaker 3: the past couple of years. Like what we have seen, 1309 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:37,320 Speaker 3: that's exactly what I would anticipate somebody saying, this is 1310 01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:41,280 Speaker 3: the thing that you know, you're wrong. They all like 1311 01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:43,759 Speaker 3: her and all this. It's like, no, no, they really don't. 1312 01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:48,479 Speaker 3: They really cannot stand her, and they can't stop. Whether 1313 01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,360 Speaker 3: it's Kelsey Plumb making her comments. It's just a joke 1314 01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,400 Speaker 3: and yeah, that's probably the wrong time. And I was 1315 01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:58,320 Speaker 3: like no, no, no, no, Like this continually happens these 1316 01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:01,040 Speaker 3: backhanded shots, and this one wasn't even backhanded. This one 1317 01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:06,840 Speaker 3: was just straight up. She should thank the world that 1318 01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:10,040 Speaker 3: I exist. She doesn't mean anything without me. Like the 1319 01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:14,719 Speaker 3: whole idea of this it's just gross and this league 1320 01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:18,559 Speaker 3: is just totally unimportant and they behave as if they 1321 01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,960 Speaker 3: have all this equity and that people care all about them. 1322 01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:24,360 Speaker 3: And then when I see stories that there are cities 1323 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,120 Speaker 3: that actually want to expand and bring in WNBA teams, 1324 01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:30,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, for what, why this whole thing is about 1325 01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:35,280 Speaker 3: to go up in complete smoke. It's never actually profited. 1326 01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:39,880 Speaker 3: I don't want to root against people that are chasing 1327 01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:43,000 Speaker 3: a dream, but quite frankly, the only reason that they're 1328 01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:47,080 Speaker 3: professionals is because they tell us they are, because they're 1329 01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,559 Speaker 3: paid like it's in their own league. But they're certainly 1330 01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,200 Speaker 3: not earned. Yeah, but they're not earning it from me, 1331 01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,760 Speaker 3: they're not earning it from you, They're not earning it 1332 01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:57,920 Speaker 3: from the vast majority of the people that are watching 1333 01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,960 Speaker 3: this league. That's why the whole pay what you owe 1334 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,080 Speaker 3: a shirts were so stupid. It's like, why are you 1335 01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:05,439 Speaker 3: doing that publicly? Do it behind closed doors in your 1336 01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,680 Speaker 3: negotiations with people that know what's going on, because all 1337 01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,960 Speaker 3: the fans are going to immediately jump to is oh 1338 01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:13,160 Speaker 3: you what exactly? 1339 01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:14,920 Speaker 2: Oh you what? 1340 01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:17,960 Speaker 3: And here's the thing. You've got your WNBA Finals going 1341 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,400 Speaker 3: on right now. Nobody knows who won Game one, nobody 1342 01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:24,240 Speaker 3: knows when Game two is going to be played. Nobody 1343 01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:27,479 Speaker 3: has a clue what's going on. Most people couldn't tell 1344 01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:29,599 Speaker 3: you one of the two teams in the league. The 1345 01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:33,400 Speaker 3: only thing that anyone is talking about as your championship 1346 01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:36,720 Speaker 3: is being decided is a dumb comment coming from your 1347 01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:42,200 Speaker 3: commissioner that reeks with just hatred and disdain towards the 1348 01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:45,920 Speaker 3: only marketable star your league has ever had. 1349 01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,000 Speaker 2: Well And the thing that I found kind of funny 1350 01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:54,040 Speaker 2: too this week, you know, because the the Collier initial 1351 01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:58,120 Speaker 2: comments about Engelbert basically you know again, they should be 1352 01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,960 Speaker 2: thinking on their knees taking me Kitton Clark, Oh my god, 1353 01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,760 Speaker 2: thank god she makes sixteen million cause whatever. It's like, 1354 01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,960 Speaker 2: the thing that stood out to me is like, all 1355 01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:12,120 Speaker 2: of a sudden, that gave everybody the window to bash 1356 01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:16,559 Speaker 2: Kathy Ingelbert, And it's like, uh, where have you been? Like, like, 1357 01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,760 Speaker 2: you know, and I think this is an issue with 1358 01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,400 Speaker 2: the media, and I one thing I'm proud of of 1359 01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:27,200 Speaker 2: this show is we have real conversations. We hold people accountable, 1360 01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:30,040 Speaker 2: We whatever, and you know whatever, if people agree, disagree, whatever, 1361 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,639 Speaker 2: But we're not just gonna sit here and either ignore 1362 01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:34,800 Speaker 2: big stories or whatever. And I bring it up because 1363 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,360 Speaker 2: I look at Kathy Engelbert and I was thinking this 1364 01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,479 Speaker 2: the other day, Like I saw Scott Van Pelt do 1365 01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:41,719 Speaker 2: some big rant and like, good for Scott Van PELTI's 1366 01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:43,240 Speaker 2: great at what we do. I'm not here to like 1367 01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:46,200 Speaker 2: try to rip down SVP. He's one of the best 1368 01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:49,519 Speaker 2: in our business. But it's like, dude, where have you 1369 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:53,000 Speaker 2: been the last two years? She's clearly incompetent and if 1370 01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:56,800 Speaker 2: you needed until this moment in time, like where like 1371 01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,639 Speaker 2: like you have one of the biggest voices in sports, 1372 01:11:58,640 --> 01:11:59,960 Speaker 2: and I understand your partner. 1373 01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:00,240 Speaker 3: Whatever. 1374 01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:02,439 Speaker 2: The point I'm trying to make is like, you know 1375 01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:06,639 Speaker 2: what I knew Kathy Engelbert was totally incompetent last year 1376 01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:11,360 Speaker 2: when she had zero idea how to handle the greatest 1377 01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:15,320 Speaker 2: gift that any professional sport has had since Tiger Woods 1378 01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:17,719 Speaker 2: got dropped out of the PGA Tour in the late nineties. 1379 01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,840 Speaker 2: Like I go back to and I remember saying this 1380 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:23,120 Speaker 2: at the time, is like when when Caitlin was literally 1381 01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:27,559 Speaker 2: getting assaulted, when girls were literally trying to poke her 1382 01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:30,679 Speaker 2: eye out, and those were things that happened. I said 1383 01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:34,479 Speaker 2: to myself, I said, I I'm not even mad at 1384 01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:38,960 Speaker 2: the players. You could argue whatever their competitors or this 1385 01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:43,560 Speaker 2: they're that I'm mad at the league for like, clearly 1386 01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:48,160 Speaker 2: players are trying to injure this woman. Where is the commissioner? 1387 01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:52,320 Speaker 2: She's hiding behind whatever she's not and so like that 1388 01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:54,679 Speaker 2: was the part that kind of annoyed me about this week, 1389 01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,160 Speaker 2: is this notion that we had to wait until this 1390 01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,720 Speaker 2: this this week to acknowledge that this lady doesn't know 1391 01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:03,160 Speaker 2: what she's doing. And so anyway, that's my only rant 1392 01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,240 Speaker 2: to kind of put a bow on this is just 1393 01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:10,200 Speaker 2: really just awful leadership. But anyone who's been paying attention 1394 01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,120 Speaker 2: for half a second should have known that well before 1395 01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:13,559 Speaker 2: this week. 1396 01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:18,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, that's one hundred percent right. We know the 1397 01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:22,640 Speaker 3: name of the commissioner of the WNBA. That's probably not 1398 01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:26,519 Speaker 3: a good thing because the sport isn't known enough for 1399 01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:28,479 Speaker 3: us to know. Like the fact that we know that 1400 01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:32,679 Speaker 3: means that she's probably said something or done something that's 1401 01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,679 Speaker 3: put her in the news, because her league is never 1402 01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,360 Speaker 3: in the news unless Caitlin Clark is around. And you 1403 01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,439 Speaker 3: talk about not knowing what to do with the gift 1404 01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,599 Speaker 3: and all this. All she had to do was not 1405 01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:47,400 Speaker 3: get her killed and find a way to actually maximize 1406 01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:50,120 Speaker 3: her value, make it look like the league loved the 1407 01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,320 Speaker 3: fact that she was a part of that league. That's 1408 01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,640 Speaker 3: really all the commissioner had to do, even if she 1409 01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,920 Speaker 3: was dripping with disdain for her behind the scenes. All 1410 01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,200 Speaker 3: you have to do is not screw it up like 1411 01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:04,280 Speaker 3: it's a unicorn. It's there, it's going to succeed. Just 1412 01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:08,080 Speaker 3: make sure the rest of the league knows, hey, let's 1413 01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,960 Speaker 3: not destroy this. This is our chance. This is all 1414 01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,280 Speaker 3: of our chances. Even if you got a grin and Barrett, 1415 01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:16,760 Speaker 3: this is our chance. And no one stood up for her, 1416 01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:20,559 Speaker 3: No one protected her, no one did anything. And the 1417 01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:24,559 Speaker 3: first quote that I've ever heard from Engelbert, whose name 1418 01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:27,240 Speaker 3: I did not know until this week, was one in 1419 01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:30,720 Speaker 3: which she basically said she's lucky she's even in our 1420 01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:35,840 Speaker 3: league essentially, and it's just like, no, no, you're lucky 1421 01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:39,320 Speaker 3: you have a league. Because most people that don't turn 1422 01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:42,439 Speaker 3: a profit for as long as you have ceased to exist. 1423 01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:46,839 Speaker 3: You are just a stage above spring football in my opinion. 1424 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:48,720 Speaker 3: But I'll ask you this. 1425 01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,320 Speaker 2: I saw the ufl as moving a bunch of teams. 1426 01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:54,360 Speaker 2: I think San Antonio and a few others are on 1427 01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,559 Speaker 2: the move. So keep an eye out for that. Fox 1428 01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:59,760 Speaker 2: Sports Radio air towards Jason Martin broadcasting live from the 1429 01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:03,200 Speaker 2: five Sports Radio studios. We'll come back. We'll talk to 1430 01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,920 Speaker 2: Steve Disager. He'll have his extended updates. 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Next, 1438 01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:40,160 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio Ertorus, 1439 01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,760 Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios 1440 01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:47,320 Speaker 2: as we do every Saturday. Now feels like a great well, 1441 01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:49,080 Speaker 2: I guess It's Sunday in some parts of the country, 1442 01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,320 Speaker 2: but feels like a great time to get over the 1443 01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,000 Speaker 2: news desk. We are live here at one forty nine 1444 01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:57,519 Speaker 2: Eastern Times Sunday morning. You betcha and I want disager 1445 01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,760 Speaker 2: to get everybody caught up on everything they miss. 1446 01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:01,840 Speaker 7: I'm not sure we have time for everything. 1447 01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:04,600 Speaker 8: Although I did mention already the NBA stuff and the 1448 01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,679 Speaker 8: other non football baseball stuff. I will say the NHL 1449 01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:11,880 Speaker 8: regular season starts Tuesday. It's preseason ended tonight, including a 1450 01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,960 Speaker 8: game where Florida won seven nothing against Tampa Bay over 1451 01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:16,560 Speaker 8: three hundred penalty. 1452 01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:17,719 Speaker 7: Minutes combined in that one. 1453 01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:20,519 Speaker 8: And you mentioned the Spring Football League. The UFL did 1454 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:25,000 Speaker 8: announce no more Memphis Showboats or San Antonio Brahmas or 1455 01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:29,360 Speaker 8: Michigan Panthers. They're reorganizing for a third spring season, a 1456 01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:32,280 Speaker 8: new investor in control. They did have eight teams in 1457 01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:36,519 Speaker 8: the league this pass spring. But the goal is quote smaller, 1458 01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:40,559 Speaker 8: more intimate settings, so they want whatever the crowd size 1459 01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,920 Speaker 8: is not to be in a sixty thousand seat STAATEU. 1460 01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,480 Speaker 3: YEA well, local high schools might be a thought. 1461 01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,160 Speaker 8: I can recall. At the end of the USFL, I 1462 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,880 Speaker 8: mean the original one that Steve Young used to play in. 1463 01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,880 Speaker 8: They played the LA Express, not in the LA Coliseum, 1464 01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,599 Speaker 8: but at the end they played at Pierce Junior College 1465 01:16:58,960 --> 01:16:59,800 Speaker 8: at Woodland Hills. 1466 01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:00,679 Speaker 7: They did Wow. 1467 01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:04,760 Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say, I understand, you know, you 1468 01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:06,880 Speaker 2: want to hit on certain markets, but having a team 1469 01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:10,600 Speaker 2: in Detroit playing at Ford Field always always felt like 1470 01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:11,439 Speaker 2: a little bit of a whiff. 1471 01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,959 Speaker 8: Alamodome is big, even for the San Antonio team. 1472 01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:16,400 Speaker 7: They had, et cetera, et cetera. 1473 01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:19,479 Speaker 8: Can I just mention The stat of the night in 1474 01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:23,559 Speaker 8: college football comes from veteran writer Tim Reynolds of Associated Press. 1475 01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:27,759 Speaker 8: Because FSU lost at home to Miami tonight. Florida State 1476 01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,640 Speaker 8: in its first one hundred and ten games in the 1477 01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:35,840 Speaker 8: ACC Conference games, Florida State went one oh one and nine. 1478 01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:40,639 Speaker 8: Florida State in its last ten ACC games one and nine. 1479 01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:41,200 Speaker 7: Wow. 1480 01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,360 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, I might have a stat that 1481 01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:46,800 Speaker 2: will one up. You give it to me UCLA. I 1482 01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:49,519 Speaker 2: just saw this on Twitter. Now the guy wasn't totally correct, 1483 01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:52,200 Speaker 2: but we talked about James Franklin against top ten teams 1484 01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:55,320 Speaker 2: last week four and twenty one overall, the only regular 1485 01:17:55,360 --> 01:18:00,320 Speaker 2: season win dating back to two thousand and whatever was 1486 01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:05,960 Speaker 2: sixteen against twenty sixteen against the Ohio State Buckeys. I 1487 01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:10,560 Speaker 2: only bring it up because with his win today, UCLA 1488 01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:14,280 Speaker 2: interim head coach Tim Skipper now has the same number 1489 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:20,439 Speaker 2: of top ten regular season Big Ten wins as James Franklin. 1490 01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:24,760 Speaker 2: That is a fact. Wow, take that for data. Who 1491 01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:25,880 Speaker 2: is that David Fizdale? 1492 01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:29,800 Speaker 8: I think yes, it was interim head coach, two new coordinators, 1493 01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,880 Speaker 8: and at the Rose Bowl forty two to thirty seven 1494 01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,880 Speaker 8: Bruins over seven thrank Penn State, and the Bruins this 1495 01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:39,519 Speaker 8: year in a schedule that let's just say, didn't include 1496 01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:43,719 Speaker 8: four Penn States. To this point, UCLA was averaging fourteen 1497 01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:47,160 Speaker 8: points a game. They hadn't led in any game this 1498 01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:51,040 Speaker 8: season until today, and yet today never trailed. They hadn't 1499 01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,720 Speaker 8: scored a single point in a first quarter yet, and 1500 01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:58,640 Speaker 8: that includes against UNLV, Northwestern et UCLA wins. They were 1501 01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:00,920 Speaker 8: up twenty seven to seven at the half, got a 1502 01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:03,760 Speaker 8: first drive touchdown at the Rose Bowl, then recovered an 1503 01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:06,160 Speaker 8: on sidekick, got another field goal at the end of 1504 01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:08,800 Speaker 8: the first half, a fifty four yard field goal, and 1505 01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:11,240 Speaker 8: eventually in the final minute, Penn State was stopped on 1506 01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:14,240 Speaker 8: a fourth and two at the UCLA nine. The Bruins 1507 01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:19,360 Speaker 8: program had lost against top ten opponents sixteen straight games. 1508 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:24,280 Speaker 8: They beat Penn State today quarterback Nico Iamaliova five total touchdowns. 1509 01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:27,280 Speaker 8: Attendance was thirty nine thousand, about what they've been getting 1510 01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:31,080 Speaker 8: for this program. Chip Kelly never much cared about the attendance. Rankly, 1511 01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:34,599 Speaker 8: he just wanted to create plays and coach football and 1512 01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:38,240 Speaker 8: not really do media interviews or anything else. He happily 1513 01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:41,280 Speaker 8: left for a coordinator's job. You'll recall, Penn State is 1514 01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:44,840 Speaker 8: now zero to two in Conference number one. Ohio State's 1515 01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:48,080 Speaker 8: five and oh after ripping Minnesota tonight forty two to three. 1516 01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:52,160 Speaker 8: Ohio State has allowed only twenty five points total in 1517 01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:55,719 Speaker 8: five games so far. Next Saturday on Fox TV, Ohio 1518 01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:59,519 Speaker 8: State Illinois at Illinois, ranked twenty second this week, five 1519 01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:01,920 Speaker 8: and one record now after the win at Purdue forty 1520 01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:06,120 Speaker 8: three twenty seven. Luke Altmeyer nineteen of twenty two passing 1521 01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:09,280 Speaker 8: for three hundred and ninety yards and a touchdown. The 1522 01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:12,840 Speaker 8: align I five for five on field goals. Oklahoma's five 1523 01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,679 Speaker 8: and zero after shutting out Kent State forty four nothing. 1524 01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:20,240 Speaker 8: Next Saturday, Oklahoma against Texas, which is three and two 1525 01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:22,760 Speaker 8: was ranked in the top ten this week. Lost at 1526 01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:26,479 Speaker 8: Florida twenty nine twenty one Gators defense with six sacs 1527 01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:29,679 Speaker 8: DJ Lagway twenty one of twenty eight nearly three hundred 1528 01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:33,200 Speaker 8: yards passing arch Manning two tds, but two fourth quarter 1529 01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:34,479 Speaker 8: interceptions as well. 1530 01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:36,519 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve de Saga. By the way, 1531 01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:40,679 Speaker 2: this Nevada Fresno State game that's on Nevada starting quarterback 1532 01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:44,759 Speaker 2: Cuba Purty, the brother of Brock Party, had no idea 1533 01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:46,799 Speaker 2: that was the thing was at Florida State in Nebraska 1534 01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:50,040 Speaker 2: before Nevada. Fox Sports Radio Air Tours come back with 1535 01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:52,240 Speaker 2: Jason Martin, Will talks a lot of college football and 1536 01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:53,600 Speaker 2: a lot of NFL. 1537 01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,880 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 1538 01:20:57,160 --> 01:21:00,960 Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, our three towards Martin five Sports Radio. 1539 01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:05,320 Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Yes, 1540 01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:08,800 Speaker 2: we are live at one a m. Eastern time here 1541 01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:12,280 Speaker 2: on a Sunday morning, maybe still Saturday night wherever you're listening. 1542 01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:15,599 Speaker 2: We do appreciate your supports, and we got a lot 1543 01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:18,640 Speaker 2: to cover in this hour, a lot of NFL that 1544 01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:21,559 Speaker 2: we haven't even hit on yet, but also a lot 1545 01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:24,599 Speaker 2: of college football to revisit. So Jason Martin and I 1546 01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:26,839 Speaker 2: will take you up till two am Eastern. Bernie Frattle 1547 01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,800 Speaker 2: follows us jmar Let's just rip through the two, three, 1548 01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,960 Speaker 2: four biggest stories of the day really quickly in college football. 1549 01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,720 Speaker 2: Week six is now in the books. You know, we 1550 01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:39,840 Speaker 2: could start a lot of different places. Let's start the 1551 01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:40,639 Speaker 2: Rose Bowl. 1552 01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:42,240 Speaker 3: Again. 1553 01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,559 Speaker 2: I said this earlier in the show. We can all 1554 01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:49,160 Speaker 2: get hyperbolic at times. I don't know that I can 1555 01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:53,840 Speaker 2: ever remember a scenario quite like Ucla. Penn State to 1556 01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:57,120 Speaker 2: Seger dropped the stats in the last hour, but UCLA 1557 01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:00,519 Speaker 2: coming into Saturday was not only one four. They had 1558 01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:04,920 Speaker 2: never led at any point in any of their first 1559 01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:09,000 Speaker 2: four games. They had not scored a single point in 1560 01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:12,920 Speaker 2: the first quarter of any of their four games. They 1561 01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,840 Speaker 2: go ahead, and none of it matters forty by the way, 1562 01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:19,200 Speaker 2: by the way, should probably mention as well, not only 1563 01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:24,480 Speaker 2: with an interim head coach. They fired their OC on Tuesday, 1564 01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:30,439 Speaker 2: fired their OC on Tuesday. None of it matters. They 1565 01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:33,920 Speaker 2: get the win forty two to thirty seven. And there 1566 01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:37,439 Speaker 2: is obviously the UCLA perspective, but there certainly is a 1567 01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:40,720 Speaker 2: Penn State perspective as well. I'll let you decide which 1568 01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:42,000 Speaker 2: one we discussed first here. 1569 01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:47,639 Speaker 3: Well, Penn State in Texas. As of October the fifth, 1570 01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,280 Speaker 3: neither one of them has won a Power four game 1571 01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:55,760 Speaker 3: this year. Insane just to throw that out there. I mean, 1572 01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:57,800 Speaker 3: I think you have to talk about Penn State obviously. Look, 1573 01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:00,840 Speaker 3: Niko's day was incredible. He's gonna have that moment forever. 1574 01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:05,280 Speaker 3: It's been a rough last handful of months for him, 1575 01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:07,800 Speaker 3: and I feel good for him because I still think 1576 01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:10,840 Speaker 3: a lot of what happened to him was advice and 1577 01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,599 Speaker 3: leverage from his family that hopefully he's going to never 1578 01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:17,360 Speaker 3: trust again. But this is this is one of those nights. 1579 01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:19,519 Speaker 3: This is just something he's gonna remember, he's gonna be 1580 01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,559 Speaker 3: able to talk about for the rest of his life. 1581 01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:25,040 Speaker 3: And watching it, I mean, it was every bit as 1582 01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:27,639 Speaker 3: good as he will tell people it is down the road. 1583 01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:31,920 Speaker 3: It was. It was special. It truly was that said. 1584 01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,120 Speaker 3: And look, UCLA is a you know, it's a Big 1585 01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:37,840 Speaker 3: ten school, formerly Pac twelve school. You know, it's not 1586 01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:43,320 Speaker 3: exactly getting beaten by Southwest Missouri Tech State or something 1587 01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:48,360 Speaker 3: like that. But this is the game that James Franklin 1588 01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:51,679 Speaker 3: can't lose. We know he's going to lose to Ohio State. 1589 01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:53,719 Speaker 3: He always does. We know he's going to lose to Michigan, 1590 01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:55,280 Speaker 3: he usually does. We know he's going to lose to 1591 01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:58,160 Speaker 3: most of those teams that are good on the schedule 1592 01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:01,400 Speaker 3: because that's what they do. But they don't lose these games. 1593 01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:06,200 Speaker 3: And this game he lost, and honestly, they were struggling 1594 01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:08,320 Speaker 3: to make it interesting because for a while there it 1595 01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:10,800 Speaker 3: looked like UCLA might just run away and hide with 1596 01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:15,759 Speaker 3: that lead. And you know, Drew Aller was Drew Aller 1597 01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:19,040 Speaker 3: was not bad in the game, and he was running hard. 1598 01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,240 Speaker 3: He reminded me a lot of Daniel Jones at Duke 1599 01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:25,280 Speaker 3: watching that particular game and what he was trying to do. 1600 01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:28,200 Speaker 3: But the coaching was bad, the scheming was bad, the 1601 01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:30,360 Speaker 3: game management was bad. And I don't mean by Aller, 1602 01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:33,360 Speaker 3: I mean just by the coaching on the sideline and 1603 01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:36,400 Speaker 3: what they were sending those guys out to do, and 1604 01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:40,799 Speaker 3: just the lack of awareness in moments in that game. 1605 01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:45,680 Speaker 3: That's the lasting impression of this. This was a just 1606 01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:49,160 Speaker 3: a staggering thing to watch coming off of what we 1607 01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:51,280 Speaker 3: had seen last week, where if it hadn't been for 1608 01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:54,480 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, this might have looked a little less surprising. 1609 01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:56,639 Speaker 3: Because they didn't look like they belonged on the same 1610 01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,680 Speaker 3: field with Oregon for about three quarters last week, and 1611 01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:03,639 Speaker 3: then the fourth quarter saw you saw that Penn State 1612 01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:06,720 Speaker 3: kind of emerge. And then we went right back this 1613 01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:08,760 Speaker 3: week to a version of Penn State we didn't know 1614 01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:11,800 Speaker 3: was still there anymore. And the questions they're going to 1615 01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:13,880 Speaker 3: be asked about James Franklin, but look, it's a fifty 1616 01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:18,960 Speaker 3: million dollar buyout or thereabouts. If he decides to leave, 1617 01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:23,840 Speaker 3: then the clauses he pays two million dollars. I don't 1618 01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,840 Speaker 3: know that he's going to do that. I don't know. 1619 01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:29,479 Speaker 3: I do know that it's about to get really ugly 1620 01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,760 Speaker 3: in state college. It's not going to get easier for 1621 01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,720 Speaker 3: them on the schedule. Now. You can't look at them 1622 01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:37,760 Speaker 3: and say that they're going to dominate in all the 1623 01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,880 Speaker 3: games that are to come, because why would you. They 1624 01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:44,800 Speaker 3: have not been impressive against anybody of note basically this 1625 01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:47,840 Speaker 3: year at all. And if James Franklin is unable to 1626 01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:50,040 Speaker 3: do it this year, I have to imagine most of 1627 01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:53,240 Speaker 3: the people that spend the money to go to that 1628 01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:57,360 Speaker 3: stadium or to fund that football team, is the money 1629 01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:00,320 Speaker 3: about to dry up? Because you are just throwing money 1630 01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:03,160 Speaker 3: away at this point. If that's the ceiling, If Penn 1631 01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,240 Speaker 3: State is just supposed to be a nine to three 1632 01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:08,439 Speaker 3: team every year, fine, but I don't think that's how 1633 01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:11,080 Speaker 3: they see it, even if that's closer to reality, I 1634 01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:13,360 Speaker 3: don't think that's how they see it. And I do 1635 01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:16,960 Speaker 3: think that there are some adjustment problems and some things 1636 01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:19,200 Speaker 3: that we've seen going back years and years. When it 1637 01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:23,160 Speaker 3: comes to Franklin and now you have the loss that 1638 01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:25,680 Speaker 3: you need, you're creating the paper trail. If you were 1639 01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:27,519 Speaker 3: trying to find a way to get out of the 1640 01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:31,080 Speaker 3: James Franklin business, this is the game that you point 1641 01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:33,840 Speaker 3: back to and say, yeah, this is the one where 1642 01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:36,200 Speaker 3: we realize this just wasn't working out, brother, and we 1643 01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:37,519 Speaker 3: have to go in a different direction. 1644 01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:41,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. So from the Penn State perspective, I think there's 1645 01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:45,040 Speaker 2: no doubt that it's I think they're actually both very 1646 01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:48,640 Speaker 2: interesting stories, but obviously Penn State is probably more consequential 1647 01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:52,080 Speaker 2: at this point. And it's just so fascinating to me 1648 01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:56,759 Speaker 2: because listen, we've talked about anybody who follows college football knows, 1649 01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,639 Speaker 2: you know, James Franklin a little bit of a spotty 1650 01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:03,240 Speaker 2: Wreckord gets legitimately good teams a bit. Yeah, yeah, but 1651 01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:06,680 Speaker 2: the tradeoff was always, Hey, he wins the games he's 1652 01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:09,320 Speaker 2: supposed to, never takes bad losses. And I just think 1653 01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:10,960 Speaker 2: this opens up a whole new can of worms, and 1654 01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:15,320 Speaker 2: I think especially this specific season, right, because it's not 1655 01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:18,840 Speaker 2: only that they themselves were saying all fall long, all 1656 01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:21,840 Speaker 2: spring long, championship or bust. It's not just that. What 1657 01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:26,840 Speaker 2: it's also is that we talked about a little bit 1658 01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:28,479 Speaker 2: last week, is that it's not just that they were 1659 01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,400 Speaker 2: saying championship or bust. It's that even after the loss 1660 01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:34,200 Speaker 2: last week, as bad as it was, you can still 1661 01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:37,640 Speaker 2: sell yourself on well, as long as James Franklin just 1662 01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:40,120 Speaker 2: does what he does, we're gonna be ten and two. 1663 01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:43,280 Speaker 2: We can get into the playoff and anything can happen 1664 01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:45,760 Speaker 2: from there. Now, you could debate they still would have 1665 01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:47,439 Speaker 2: to beat good teams in the playoff, but I think 1666 01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:50,960 Speaker 2: you could absolutely argue that. But the counter to that 1667 01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:53,720 Speaker 2: is that now with this law. And by the way, 1668 01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:55,599 Speaker 2: apparently I didn't even see this, but apparently he had 1669 01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:58,120 Speaker 2: Jim Knowles tell the team that Jim Noles, the defensive 1670 01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:00,559 Speaker 2: coordinator who was at Ohio State, Hey, I was in 1671 01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:03,519 Speaker 2: this position last year. We took two losses, still made 1672 01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:06,559 Speaker 2: the playoff whatever, And basically the point that I'm trying 1673 01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:10,559 Speaker 2: to get to is that now it just changes everything 1674 01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:13,200 Speaker 2: because now you really kind of have to be perfect 1675 01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:15,160 Speaker 2: from here on out. I know, you know, you don't 1676 01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:18,559 Speaker 2: want to overreact to things in the twelve team playoff era, 1677 01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:20,720 Speaker 2: but I think the counter to that is what makes 1678 01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:23,320 Speaker 2: us think they're a playoff team. Not much, and they 1679 01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:26,120 Speaker 2: still have to go on the road to Ohio State. 1680 01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:28,879 Speaker 2: You lose that game, you're gonna be nine to three 1681 01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:31,880 Speaker 2: with essentially no good wins and at least one bad 1682 01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:35,000 Speaker 2: loss on your resume. So it doesn't feel hyperbolic to 1683 01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:37,559 Speaker 2: say that they are going to miss the playoff and 1684 01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:41,439 Speaker 2: that it is going to seemingly feel like there are 1685 01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:43,799 Speaker 2: going to be some kind of consequences for James Franklin. 1686 01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:46,920 Speaker 2: Maybe he looks for something else. Maybe to your point, Jmart, 1687 01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:49,400 Speaker 2: they just stopped funding him and it eventually decays from 1688 01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:53,519 Speaker 2: within that I don't know. Speaking of decay from within, 1689 01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:56,759 Speaker 2: we got to acknowledge that there was another train wreck 1690 01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:01,800 Speaker 2: on Saturday, a little bit east of a little bit 1691 01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:04,360 Speaker 2: east of the Rose Bowl in Los Angeles, where Penn 1692 01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:09,639 Speaker 2: State was upset by UCLA Texas, also a top ten team, 1693 01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:13,599 Speaker 2: also upset on the road, also upset by a team 1694 01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:16,839 Speaker 2: that was basically struggling to beat anybody with a pulse. 1695 01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:22,160 Speaker 2: Florida beats Texas in that game in the swamp, and 1696 01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:26,000 Speaker 2: you know, listen, I'll say this, billion Apier, the Florida coach, 1697 01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:27,800 Speaker 2: said after the game, this is the team that I 1698 01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:31,200 Speaker 2: was expecting all fall long. They were a top twenty 1699 01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:34,880 Speaker 2: team in the preseason. They started one in three. They 1700 01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:37,960 Speaker 2: get the twenty nine to twenty one win, and I'll 1701 01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:41,640 Speaker 2: be quick. The story is clearly Arch manning sixteen of 1702 01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:45,800 Speaker 2: twenty nine passing, two more interceptions. But I will also say, 1703 01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:48,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm defending Arch here, but the 1704 01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:51,360 Speaker 2: O line gave up seven sacks, not all of them 1705 01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:54,080 Speaker 2: were on the O line, but they also only rushed 1706 01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:57,759 Speaker 2: for fifty two yards. The defense gave up a total 1707 01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:01,160 Speaker 2: of close to five hundred yards. DJ Lagway twenty one 1708 01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:02,240 Speaker 2: of twenty eight passing. 1709 01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:05,040 Speaker 3: He kind of looked the part. Finally he did. 1710 01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:08,840 Speaker 2: He did, and but the counter to that is Texas, 1711 01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:12,400 Speaker 2: which we all thought was and I go we led 1712 01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:16,200 Speaker 2: the show with this. Jmark but we all thought that 1713 01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:20,120 Speaker 2: the Arch hype was whatever. Some of us believed in it, 1714 01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:22,679 Speaker 2: some of us certainly did not, But I think all 1715 01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:25,640 Speaker 2: of us agreed that he probably doesn't have to be 1716 01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:29,120 Speaker 2: great because of all the talent around him. Well guess what, 1717 01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:32,360 Speaker 2: Not only is he not great, the O line isn't great, 1718 01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:35,559 Speaker 2: the defense wasn't great on Saturday, and all of a sudden, 1719 01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:37,719 Speaker 2: Texas comes out of this game with a lot more answers. 1720 01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:39,760 Speaker 2: You can obviously focus on Arch if you want, but 1721 01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:43,439 Speaker 2: I just go back to it was. There wasn't a 1722 01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:45,320 Speaker 2: spot on the field where I felt like they played 1723 01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:47,880 Speaker 2: particularly well. A lot of it does fall on the 1724 01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:51,639 Speaker 2: quarterbacks shoulders and arms and legs. But I don't think 1725 01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:54,360 Speaker 2: he's the only problem with Texas football right now. 1726 01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:57,599 Speaker 3: No he's not. But he's the most glaring problem because 1727 01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:00,559 Speaker 3: he's got the biggest spotlight on him. For better or 1728 01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:03,880 Speaker 3: for worse, whether fair or not. The quarterback is going 1729 01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,280 Speaker 3: to take the brunt of it most of the time, 1730 01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:09,240 Speaker 3: unless you're putting up fifty points in your defense is 1731 01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:12,400 Speaker 3: given up sixty, at which point it's going to be different. 1732 01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:16,680 Speaker 3: You're right, The defense has not been as advertised. The 1733 01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:20,560 Speaker 3: offensive line is flat bad. I don't know that Sarkisian 1734 01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:22,720 Speaker 3: is doing his best work either. I just I haven't 1735 01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:25,040 Speaker 3: been impressed with the play calling, haven't been impressed with much. 1736 01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:27,920 Speaker 3: But it does come down to Arch because this season, 1737 01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:30,720 Speaker 3: that was what we were talking about the last year 1738 01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:35,240 Speaker 3: as we watched him on the bench and saw youers 1739 01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:39,720 Speaker 3: at times, there were definitely, you know, punctures in that Veneer. Well, 1740 01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:42,320 Speaker 3: why can't we get Arch in there? Texas. You're trying 1741 01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:45,800 Speaker 3: to win a championship. You can't worry about feelings. You 1742 01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,800 Speaker 3: got to put Arch in there. Turns out Sarkisian didn't 1743 01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:51,040 Speaker 3: put Arch in there because Archer wasn't ready. Because Arch 1744 01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:53,920 Speaker 3: is not ready now, he wasn't ready against Ohio State. 1745 01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:57,800 Speaker 3: He looked completely not ready. Against Florida, he made two 1746 01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:01,160 Speaker 3: three throws in the game. You're like, all right, yeah, 1747 01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:04,160 Speaker 3: all right, there's a flash a flash. But here's the thing. 1748 01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:09,200 Speaker 3: If you're playing major college football, you're probably capable of 1749 01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:11,400 Speaker 3: a throw or two that are going to be flashy. 1750 01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:13,960 Speaker 3: I hope, So you just yeah, right, I mean I 1751 01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:15,760 Speaker 3: would have to think so, you would have to. You 1752 01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:18,400 Speaker 3: would have to hope. So so I'm not going to 1753 01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:20,000 Speaker 3: give him credit because there are a couple of balls 1754 01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:23,439 Speaker 3: that he threw that looked really, really good. I saw 1755 01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:28,400 Speaker 3: I saw a comment uh after the game where it's 1756 01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:30,599 Speaker 3: just like, you know, I'm an arch fan, but and 1757 01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:33,960 Speaker 3: this is kind of what my immediate thinking was, what 1758 01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:35,640 Speaker 3: do you mean you're an archan? Why are you an 1759 01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:37,760 Speaker 3: arch fan? How can you be one? Yet? Like? What 1760 01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:41,280 Speaker 3: are you a fan of? Exactly? We don't know enough 1761 01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:44,080 Speaker 3: about him yet, We're just now starting to get used 1762 01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:45,559 Speaker 3: to it. I'm not saying you need to hate the guy, 1763 01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:47,840 Speaker 3: not by any stretch the imagination. I kind of want 1764 01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:50,759 Speaker 3: to see him be good, but he's not. Right now, 1765 01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:55,200 Speaker 3: he's not. He hasn't been against anybody that has that 1766 01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:59,679 Speaker 3: has a functional defense and is in any way capable 1767 01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:04,280 Speaker 3: of matching talent with Texas. This was an SEC road 1768 01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:08,439 Speaker 3: game in a hostile environment, and arch Manning looked like 1769 01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:11,240 Speaker 3: a backup that was thrown into a role that he 1770 01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:15,479 Speaker 3: was not equipped to handle. And I know that, you know, 1771 01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:18,200 Speaker 3: we've heard a lot about it, but the game plan 1772 01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:20,040 Speaker 3: did not change for him. I don't know if the 1773 01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:23,280 Speaker 3: playbook can be opened up for him. His progressions don't 1774 01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:25,679 Speaker 3: seem to be to be very good. He doesn't seem 1775 01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:28,799 Speaker 3: to have much pocket presence at all. He is taking 1776 01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:31,080 Speaker 3: some bad sacks. They're not all on him, but he's 1777 01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:34,679 Speaker 3: taken some bad sacks. It's just a it's just bad 1778 01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:37,120 Speaker 3: in Texas, Like Texas, Penn State was a lot of 1779 01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:40,720 Speaker 3: people's championship game. If I'm not mistaken, it might have 1780 01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:42,840 Speaker 3: been mine. As a matter of fact, I know it 1781 01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:43,560 Speaker 3: was Calhurd's. 1782 01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:44,120 Speaker 2: I saw that. 1783 01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:47,320 Speaker 3: As a matter of fact. I think I even saw 1784 01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:51,080 Speaker 3: a comment from him when I was just googling after 1785 01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:53,040 Speaker 3: the game that said, yeah, I'm thinking my Penn State 1786 01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:57,120 Speaker 3: Texas National championship game might be in a bit of jeopardy. Yeah, 1787 01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:00,760 Speaker 3: I'll say. But right now, I think the question is, 1788 01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:05,559 Speaker 3: if Arch's last name was not Manning, would he still 1789 01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:09,439 Speaker 3: be QB one at Texas next week? I think he 1790 01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:12,040 Speaker 3: will be, And I don't know that that's even a 1791 01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:14,599 Speaker 3: fair question to ask, but I do think that he's 1792 01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:17,120 Speaker 3: gonna get a longer lease, or maybe he already has 1793 01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:19,960 Speaker 3: because of his last name, because right now he looks 1794 01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:22,480 Speaker 3: like a subpar SEC quarterback. 1795 01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:26,200 Speaker 2: There's no doubt. And I, you know, I do find 1796 01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:30,600 Speaker 2: it very interesting what the future is. I said it 1797 01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:36,320 Speaker 2: in hour one. I think it's there's at some point 1798 01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:39,080 Speaker 2: if he's not good enough, you're obviously going to replace him. 1799 01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:42,559 Speaker 2: But obviously with the last name Manning, with with the 1800 01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:46,360 Speaker 2: you know, power is not necessarily the word I'm looking for, 1801 01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:49,880 Speaker 2: but with the prestige that they have in the football world, 1802 01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:52,840 Speaker 2: I think you probably give him a longer leash than 1803 01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:55,639 Speaker 2: most because again, you don't want to be the team 1804 01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:58,880 Speaker 2: to to Benjaminning really quick. One last thing. We did 1805 01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:01,760 Speaker 2: one game that we didn't talk about throughout the show, 1806 01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:04,920 Speaker 2: and I'll be quick on this. It was a Top 1807 01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:08,599 Speaker 2: twenty matchup in Tuscaloosa. Alabama wins thirty to fourteen in 1808 01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:12,439 Speaker 2: that game. I'll say this. You know it's funny. Before 1809 01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:17,320 Speaker 2: our show, Steve Hartman was filling in for Martin Weiss 1810 01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:22,200 Speaker 2: with Monty Belanios and Steve as He'll tell you trust 1811 01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:25,439 Speaker 2: me he will has a Heisman vote and he said 1812 01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:29,000 Speaker 2: votes why, I don't even know how how to handicap it. 1813 01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:31,639 Speaker 2: I said, I think ty Simpson might be the Heisman 1814 01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:32,559 Speaker 2: favorite right now. 1815 01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:35,840 Speaker 3: I think I saw he was number two on one 1816 01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:38,800 Speaker 3: of the betting sites match but yeah, he's got to 1817 01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:39,479 Speaker 3: be right there. 1818 01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:43,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was twenty three of thirty one two touchdowns today, 1819 01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:49,640 Speaker 2: three hundred and forty yards passing. He is so impressive. 1820 01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:52,720 Speaker 2: And I'll say this, I know it's hard to kind 1821 01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:55,959 Speaker 2: of figure out what the tears are in the SEC, 1822 01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:59,839 Speaker 2: but Alabama has answered every single question after that Florida 1823 01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:01,960 Speaker 2: State and again, this is a twelve team playoff here. 1824 01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:04,439 Speaker 2: You can lose a game. You can either have a 1825 01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:07,040 Speaker 2: bad game or you can get better throughout the year. 1826 01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:09,639 Speaker 2: And I don't think there's any doubt that of teams 1827 01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:13,240 Speaker 2: from day one to now that have made improvement, I 1828 01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:15,719 Speaker 2: think Album maybe is the best team in the SEC. 1829 01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:18,960 Speaker 2: Credit to them for getting a second straight ranked win. 1830 01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:21,639 Speaker 2: They are now four and one heading into another big 1831 01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:23,080 Speaker 2: one next week against Missouri. 1832 01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:27,519 Speaker 3: Well, man, I mean, you could be right if I 1833 01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:29,400 Speaker 3: had to, if I had to say right now, I'd 1834 01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:33,840 Speaker 3: probably still go ol miss Texas A and M. And 1835 01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:36,600 Speaker 3: the second half loikes really good against Mississippi State. I 1836 01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:38,639 Speaker 3: think you got a potential five to six teams out 1837 01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:40,400 Speaker 3: of the SEC in a top ten right now. If 1838 01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:45,960 Speaker 3: you were trying to handicap it, but it's hard, it 1839 01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:48,479 Speaker 3: be hard, you'd be hard pressed. I mean, the one 1840 01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:51,400 Speaker 3: thing is Vanderbilt. This is not the Vanderbilt's gonna go 1841 01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:54,360 Speaker 3: into Alabama and get b fifty nine to nothing. It's 1842 01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:57,200 Speaker 3: just not it's a legit football team. But it was 1843 01:36:57,240 --> 01:36:59,559 Speaker 3: a legit football team that ran into a more legit 1844 01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:04,080 Speaker 3: football team that at home handled business, and that's what 1845 01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:07,800 Speaker 3: you're supposed to do in that spot. I think that 1846 01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:12,080 Speaker 3: Vanderbilt absolutely wanted that game and came into it confident, 1847 01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:14,880 Speaker 3: but Alabama was just flat better when they had to be. 1848 01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:17,640 Speaker 3: And you're right, like Ty Simpson has been as advertised, 1849 01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:19,479 Speaker 3: if not better. I mean, he didn't get a lot 1850 01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:21,160 Speaker 3: of the pub going into the season the way a 1851 01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:23,720 Speaker 3: lot of these guys that now are dude, I mean 1852 01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:27,840 Speaker 3: Drew Aller, Kaide Klubnick, I mean the list of guys 1853 01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:30,920 Speaker 3: that we were talking about going into the season, and 1854 01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:33,760 Speaker 3: you have the revenge tour of Carson Beck, and you 1855 01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:36,240 Speaker 3: have Ty Simpson, and you have a couple of other 1856 01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:40,880 Speaker 3: names throughout the country. It's kind of amazing how little 1857 01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:45,080 Speaker 3: it feels like everyone in the know actually knows about 1858 01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:47,960 Speaker 3: a month or so into the season, because especially this year, 1859 01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:50,840 Speaker 3: everything that we thought we knew about some of the 1860 01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:52,920 Speaker 3: best teams in the country, we absolutely did not. 1861 01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:58,120 Speaker 2: Can't disagree with that, you know, you talk about the 1862 01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:00,599 Speaker 2: struggles of Penn State, the struggles of Techs, the struggles 1863 01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:02,639 Speaker 2: of Clemson, the struggles of Kad club Nick, the struggles 1864 01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:05,760 Speaker 2: of drewler arch Manning. It goes on and on. But 1865 01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:08,479 Speaker 2: it was another day of college for another great day 1866 01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:10,519 Speaker 2: of college football. But that said, we got to turn 1867 01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:13,680 Speaker 2: the page to another great week of the NFL coming up. 1868 01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:17,640 Speaker 2: Week five is on the way. Couple intriguing matchups, but 1869 01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:20,160 Speaker 2: I think more importantly a couple of really interesting stories 1870 01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:22,400 Speaker 2: that emerge from this week. We're gonna discuss it all 1871 01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:25,799 Speaker 2: in a minute. Before we do. Should mention during baseball season, 1872 01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:30,960 Speaker 2: during baseball postseason, Strauss made history as the first brand 1873 01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:34,400 Speaker 2: ever on helmets. 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J mart 1891 01:39:33,479 --> 01:39:35,280 Speaker 2: we you know, you know it's a good day of 1892 01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:37,640 Speaker 2: college football, and you know it's a crazy week in 1893 01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:42,320 Speaker 2: the WNBA. When it's uh one twenty seven Eastern time. 1894 01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:44,679 Speaker 2: We've been on air for two hours and twenty seven minutes. 1895 01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:50,439 Speaker 2: We have not talked a lick of National Football League football. 1896 01:39:50,439 --> 01:39:52,200 Speaker 2: I don't know why I said National Football League football, 1897 01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:55,120 Speaker 2: but you get the point. I'll tell you what. Mary 1898 01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:58,000 Speaker 2: give us some music, put us in the mood. Not 1899 01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:00,639 Speaker 2: a ton of big games to preview, so I kind 1900 01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:04,280 Speaker 2: of just want to go through, Like we're through four weeks, 1901 01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:07,200 Speaker 2: you know, not quite a quarter of the season. A 1902 01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:11,040 Speaker 2: lot of stuff that we weren't expecting go ahead and 1903 01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:14,160 Speaker 2: just get let's just talk ball. The kids say, are 1904 01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:17,760 Speaker 2: we are ball knowers? We're two ball knowers. Let's talk 1905 01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:20,559 Speaker 2: some ball. What sticks out to you now through four 1906 01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:21,720 Speaker 2: weeks of the season. 1907 01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:29,519 Speaker 3: No, I can go well. I mean there's a few 1908 01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:32,639 Speaker 3: different things that stick out. I think the most glaring 1909 01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:36,200 Speaker 3: one right now is just what's going on in Baltimore. Sure, 1910 01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:40,000 Speaker 3: I mean, Lamar is out on Sunday, They're playing against Houston. 1911 01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:42,880 Speaker 3: Houston blank Tennessee. Tennessee's the worst team in the league 1912 01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:46,559 Speaker 3: right now. I don't know what that means. They can 1913 01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:48,479 Speaker 3: give Derrick Henry the ball a lot and still be 1914 01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:53,880 Speaker 3: Houston perhaps on Sunday. But just Baltimore, the comeback for 1915 01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:57,720 Speaker 3: the Bills, and just the way that this season has 1916 01:40:57,800 --> 01:41:00,559 Speaker 3: played out, like all the stuff that you kind of 1917 01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:03,280 Speaker 3: thought about Baltimore, Derek Henry's is not a guy that fumbles. 1918 01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:07,240 Speaker 3: He's fumbling. Lamar Jackson just didn't seem dialed in at all, 1919 01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:12,160 Speaker 3: even before leaving that game, Like nothing seems quite right there. 1920 01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:14,679 Speaker 3: Even John Harball seems like the blooms off that roase 1921 01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:17,640 Speaker 3: with the fan base like this. This was both our 1922 01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:19,720 Speaker 3: pick as a matter of fact, it was to win 1923 01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:23,479 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl this year, and right now, they've got 1924 01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:25,840 Speaker 3: to be careful because I still think they can win 1925 01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:28,360 Speaker 3: that division because I don't really believe in that division 1926 01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:30,519 Speaker 3: with Burrow out and just I don't know what the 1927 01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:35,160 Speaker 3: Steelers are, but they can't continue to fall behind because 1928 01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:37,479 Speaker 3: they're probably not going to be a team we would 1929 01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:39,800 Speaker 3: think that's going to end up with one of those 1930 01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:42,919 Speaker 3: other spots. They're probably going to have to win the division. 1931 01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:46,799 Speaker 3: And that's going to require, you know, being above Pittsburgh 1932 01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:49,280 Speaker 3: at the end of this and Pittsburgh's already done more 1933 01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:51,720 Speaker 3: so far this season than I expected them to do. 1934 01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:55,599 Speaker 3: And maybe that's not going to last. Maybe we're all 1935 01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:57,760 Speaker 3: going to end up right and you know, midway through 1936 01:41:57,800 --> 01:41:59,559 Speaker 3: the season that's going to fall apart. But I'm not 1937 01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:02,360 Speaker 3: so sure right now. I have no idea, but Baltimore 1938 01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:03,360 Speaker 3: just doesn't look right. 1939 01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:07,800 Speaker 2: So I can't disagree with that. You know, the Casey thing. 1940 01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:11,120 Speaker 2: You know, Casey just jumped all over him, and yeah, 1941 01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:15,040 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we spend not we literally you 1942 01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:17,960 Speaker 2: and I, but we as an industry. I mean, that 1943 01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:21,000 Speaker 2: game was broken down seven ways to Sunday and it's 1944 01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:24,160 Speaker 2: like it was over, you know, two three, possessions in 1945 01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:27,120 Speaker 2: and like you said, I don't have a great answer 1946 01:42:27,160 --> 01:42:30,240 Speaker 2: because the defense is a mess. Derrick Henry, something's not 1947 01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:35,080 Speaker 2: quite right. Lamar is obviously not playing. The only silver 1948 01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:38,080 Speaker 2: lining that I would say is Buffalo might just flat 1949 01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:40,360 Speaker 2: out be the best team in the league. Kansas City 1950 01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:43,080 Speaker 2: is coming on strong, and Detroit was a game that 1951 01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:45,320 Speaker 2: you easily could have won, but you did it. I 1952 01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:48,240 Speaker 2: actually think that's a perfect segue into what I want 1953 01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:52,680 Speaker 2: to talk about, which is, you know, we all have 1954 01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:55,920 Speaker 2: these takes in the preseason whatever, and I just bring 1955 01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:59,920 Speaker 2: it up because I look at this league right now, 1956 01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:02,160 Speaker 2: and by the way, we all had takes on Green 1957 01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:03,960 Speaker 2: Bay in this and that. No, by the way, after 1958 01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:05,680 Speaker 2: Week one we were ready to hand green Bay the 1959 01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:08,360 Speaker 2: super Bowl. You look at the league right now, Mayor 1960 01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:11,160 Speaker 2: you could keep the music going, by the way. You 1961 01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:13,680 Speaker 2: look at the league right now, and this is what 1962 01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:16,360 Speaker 2: I see. I see the Bills are the best team 1963 01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:20,760 Speaker 2: in the AFC. But all of a sudden, you look 1964 01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:24,800 Speaker 2: at the Kansas City Chiefs. Kansas City Chiefs just beat Baltimore, 1965 01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:28,479 Speaker 2: easily could have beaten Philadelphia in Week one or week two. 1966 01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:31,240 Speaker 2: Excuse me, I think they're gonna have to go through 1967 01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:34,840 Speaker 2: Kansas City again, and then in the NFC Philly and 1968 01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:38,559 Speaker 2: Detroit appear to be the two best teams. It feels 1969 01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:41,080 Speaker 2: like twenty twenty four all over again. It's just it's 1970 01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:44,800 Speaker 2: unbelievable how as much as things change, they appear to 1971 01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:47,920 Speaker 2: be staying the same. And yes, included in that is 1972 01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:50,040 Speaker 2: the fact that after a lot of people, including me, 1973 01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:53,479 Speaker 2: were ready to pour dirt on the Chief's grave, all 1974 01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:56,000 Speaker 2: of a sudden, they're two and two just destroyed Baltimore's 1975 01:43:56,080 --> 01:43:58,920 Speaker 2: Xavier Worthy looked awesome last week, and I think they're 1976 01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:01,040 Speaker 2: rocking and rolling heading into the middle of the season. 1977 01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:03,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they haven't gotten everybody back. I mean, they're 1978 01:44:03,640 --> 01:44:07,240 Speaker 3: still going to get Rice back, and they it definitely 1979 01:44:07,240 --> 01:44:11,280 Speaker 3: looked different. We could say that that was not what 1980 01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:13,439 Speaker 3: I was expecting in that game, for them to be 1981 01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:15,720 Speaker 3: that dominant, even if they wanted you picked them to 1982 01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:17,519 Speaker 3: win it. I picked Baltimore, but I thought it would 1983 01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:21,240 Speaker 3: be close one way or the other, and it really 1984 01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:24,479 Speaker 3: wasn't really not at all, as a matter of fact, 1985 01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:27,080 Speaker 3: So you could be right, this could be exactly the 1986 01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:28,880 Speaker 3: same thing we were looking at last year. It's just 1987 01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:31,600 Speaker 3: who's going to be Who's going to fill out that 1988 01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:34,640 Speaker 3: roster when it comes to these playoff teams, Like, I 1989 01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:37,800 Speaker 3: don't know exactly how well I feel about Green Bay 1990 01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:39,439 Speaker 3: right now. I don't know how I feel about any 1991 01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:42,000 Speaker 3: of the teams in the NFC West right now. Seattle 1992 01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:45,360 Speaker 3: probably deserves more respect than they're getting. I wasn't sold 1993 01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:47,360 Speaker 3: on the Rams, and now I'm less sold. The forty 1994 01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:49,640 Speaker 3: nine Ers are hurt all the time. The one thing 1995 01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:52,280 Speaker 3: they have discovered is that a lot of people, and 1996 01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:54,400 Speaker 3: we knew this already. I mean Nick Mullens had done 1997 01:44:54,400 --> 01:44:56,240 Speaker 3: it and other guys had done it. You can run 1998 01:44:56,360 --> 01:45:00,679 Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan's system, and Mac Jones went given what he had, 1999 01:45:01,160 --> 01:45:03,880 Speaker 3: especially considering everything that had gone on that day for 2000 01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:07,599 Speaker 3: him and everything else. Like just an incredible performance there. 2001 01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:10,000 Speaker 3: But I don't know who else you buy into. The 2002 01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:14,160 Speaker 3: Chargers still have a tendency to Charger and the Colts 2003 01:45:14,200 --> 01:45:17,280 Speaker 3: are you know. I just I think that the Bills 2004 01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:19,800 Speaker 3: right now are head and shoulders to be the best 2005 01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:23,760 Speaker 3: team in the AFC over Kansas City. But that's gonna 2006 01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:25,600 Speaker 3: be a completely different game for them. That could be 2007 01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:28,400 Speaker 3: the Michigan Ohio State Like eventually they got to find 2008 01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:30,519 Speaker 3: a way to win that game if they want to 2009 01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:32,719 Speaker 3: get to the promised Land. I mean, Josh Allen's playing 2010 01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:34,639 Speaker 3: the best I've seen a quarterback play in a very 2011 01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:37,760 Speaker 3: very long time right now, and he's not even having 2012 01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:40,000 Speaker 3: to do that much. He's just everything he does is 2013 01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:42,599 Speaker 3: perfect when he does do it. So yeah, I think 2014 01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:45,200 Speaker 3: that's I think that's definitely one. Here's one. It's local. 2015 01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:49,200 Speaker 3: It's not gonna be like important to everybody, but I'm 2016 01:45:49,240 --> 01:45:52,519 Speaker 3: gonna say this anyway, the Titans head coach will be 2017 01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:57,120 Speaker 3: fired within the next four weeks. That's my That's something 2018 01:45:57,120 --> 01:45:59,519 Speaker 3: I will go ahead and predict right now. When you 2019 01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:02,880 Speaker 3: are no being when you were known for your offensive 2020 01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:06,360 Speaker 3: play calling, that's why you got the job because of 2021 01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:09,360 Speaker 3: what you did in Cincinnati, and you give up the 2022 01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:13,160 Speaker 3: play calling voluntarily last week, just saying it's not working. 2023 01:46:13,160 --> 01:46:14,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go ahead and hand that off. I mean, 2024 01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:17,439 Speaker 3: good on you, that's humble. But then what are you 2025 01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:20,080 Speaker 3: doing then, Like, what do you say you do here? 2026 01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:22,880 Speaker 3: If you give up the play calling and that's the 2027 01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:26,080 Speaker 3: thing that you did the best in Cincinnati, and then 2028 01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:28,839 Speaker 3: what you do in the next game against a Houston 2029 01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:32,280 Speaker 3: team that was struggling to get anything going is get 2030 01:46:32,360 --> 01:46:35,840 Speaker 3: blanked by them, get shut out by them in that game. 2031 01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:38,280 Speaker 3: The Titan's gonna be looking for a new head coach 2032 01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:42,160 Speaker 3: within a month. It's not a great division the Colts 2033 01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:46,080 Speaker 3: and Jaguars. Notwithstanding, the Jags actually are much better. I 2034 01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:47,760 Speaker 3: think the people thought they were gonna be under a 2035 01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:50,000 Speaker 3: first year head coach, and the Colts have been a 2036 01:46:50,040 --> 01:46:52,960 Speaker 3: pleasant surprise to watch as well, even with the loss 2037 01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:56,000 Speaker 3: to the Rams. But yeah, like the betting favorite, I 2038 01:46:56,040 --> 01:46:58,640 Speaker 3: think in Vegas change to Callahan being the first to 2039 01:46:58,640 --> 01:47:00,639 Speaker 3: be fired. I don't think it's going to take another 2040 01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:03,720 Speaker 3: month because I've seen what this ownership does. They do 2041 01:47:03,800 --> 01:47:07,240 Speaker 3: not wait around. They make rash decisions based on emotions. 2042 01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:09,320 Speaker 3: It led to AJ Brown being gone. It led to 2043 01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:12,920 Speaker 3: John Robinson, the general manager, being fired. I see, that's 2044 01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:15,280 Speaker 3: exactly what's gonna happen with Calai and he will not 2045 01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:16,240 Speaker 3: finish the season. 2046 01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:19,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think when your number one overall pick is 2047 01:47:19,479 --> 01:47:24,160 Speaker 2: regressing under an offensive head coach, that's not a good sign. 2048 01:47:24,479 --> 01:47:27,800 Speaker 2: I'll say this, speaking of offensive head coaches, I'm gonna 2049 01:47:27,800 --> 01:47:32,439 Speaker 2: say something that I never thought I would say. Uh oh, no, no, no, 2050 01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:38,840 Speaker 2: it's actually a weird backhanded compliment. I don't think Brian 2051 01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:41,439 Speaker 2: Schottenheimer is as bad as I thought it was gonna be. 2052 01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:43,639 Speaker 3: I knew it was coming. That's why I said, oh, 2053 01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:45,559 Speaker 3: I actually knew where you were going. Yeah. 2054 01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:49,639 Speaker 2: But also I do have to say, man, anyone who 2055 01:47:49,640 --> 01:47:51,479 Speaker 2: has listened to me in this time slot through the years, 2056 01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:54,479 Speaker 2: I have never been a Dak guy. And I think 2057 01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:58,080 Speaker 2: who Dak is? And you know, I'll give our colleague 2058 01:47:58,080 --> 01:48:00,679 Speaker 2: college coward. He talks about this a lot. The leader 2059 01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:03,200 Speaker 2: that he is, he always says the right thing. And 2060 01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:06,120 Speaker 2: I think especially not only is he playing well this year, 2061 01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:09,439 Speaker 2: but the last couple months with all the micah nois 2062 01:48:10,040 --> 01:48:13,200 Speaker 2: he he is the bedrock in that organization. It's not 2063 01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:16,000 Speaker 2: the coach that you look to. That's the that's the 2064 01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:19,479 Speaker 2: guiding light. It's certainly not the owner. I think he 2065 01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:21,559 Speaker 2: you know, if they have any sort of season, and 2066 01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:23,679 Speaker 2: we'll see if they do or not, one two and one, 2067 01:48:24,439 --> 01:48:27,479 Speaker 2: but he is the guy that is holding that ship together. 2068 01:48:28,040 --> 01:48:30,920 Speaker 2: And but I will say in terms of the football stuff, 2069 01:48:32,160 --> 01:48:34,719 Speaker 2: they look competent on offense. And I gotta get Brian 2070 01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:37,320 Speaker 2: Brian Shott and I'm her credit again, I'm rambling, I'm 2071 01:48:37,320 --> 01:48:40,200 Speaker 2: saying whatever, and I'm not saying this is a thirteen 2072 01:48:40,280 --> 01:48:43,439 Speaker 2: win team. I'm just saying I thought this was like 2073 01:48:44,240 --> 01:48:47,280 Speaker 2: three and fourteen potentially written all over it. And I 2074 01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:50,880 Speaker 2: just think they are. They're good on Offenseough, I'll shut up, 2075 01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:52,639 Speaker 2: give it back to you. They're good on offense. 2076 01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:55,080 Speaker 3: Look, I sent that message to you earlier this week. 2077 01:48:55,120 --> 01:48:57,120 Speaker 3: I've been pretty critical of Dak two, both of us 2078 01:48:57,160 --> 01:48:59,400 Speaker 3: have been, and I said, I was, like, I think 2079 01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:01,519 Speaker 3: I think it's to start questioning whether or not the 2080 01:49:01,600 --> 01:49:05,000 Speaker 3: Cowboys have failed Dak Prescott, sure, because the game that 2081 01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:07,559 Speaker 3: he played on Sunday is a game that that that 2082 01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:11,000 Speaker 3: team is supposed to win, and that defense is absolutely 2083 01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:15,519 Speaker 3: brutally awful. And Jerry Jones let Michael Parsons escape out 2084 01:49:15,520 --> 01:49:18,439 Speaker 3: that door. You don't even have Ceede Lamb in the game, 2085 01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:20,519 Speaker 3: and you're throwing the ball to Jay when Tolbert, You're 2086 01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:24,520 Speaker 3: making it happen. Dak Prescott playing like MVP level football, 2087 01:49:25,479 --> 01:49:28,639 Speaker 3: Like just he's playing absolutely out of his mind right now. 2088 01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:32,080 Speaker 3: But you're right, like the Cowboys do not stink because 2089 01:49:32,120 --> 01:49:35,080 Speaker 3: of what they're doing offensively, and I do think that's impressive. 2090 01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:37,559 Speaker 2: All Right, I'll tell you what, Ja Mart. We could 2091 01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:39,559 Speaker 2: go on and on all night. Can't believe we only 2092 01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:42,640 Speaker 2: got such little NFL content in, But it's because we 2093 01:49:42,720 --> 01:49:45,360 Speaker 2: had so much darn and good college football and other 2094 01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:46,559 Speaker 2: stuff from throughout the week. 2095 01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:49,240 Speaker 3: But talk about the Browns quarterbacks. 2096 01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:51,519 Speaker 2: Whoa well, we got one segment left and we still 2097 01:49:51,560 --> 01:49:53,640 Speaker 2: got a lot of ground to cover. Tell you what 2098 01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:55,479 Speaker 2: you know, who always covers a lot of ground in 2099 01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:57,840 Speaker 2: a short amount of time. Steve de Sager, what is 2100 01:49:57,880 --> 01:50:01,320 Speaker 2: trending here at one thirty seven Eastern on a Saturday 2101 01:50:01,360 --> 01:50:02,479 Speaker 2: into Sunday, and there. 2102 01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:04,720 Speaker 8: Is an early Sunday game coming out from London in 2103 01:50:04,760 --> 01:50:08,160 Speaker 8: the NFL at UFC three to twenty. Alex Pereira a 2104 01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:10,880 Speaker 8: winner tonight, We've got two late night football games in 2105 01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:15,639 Speaker 8: college football. You reference this early Fresno State has quarterback EJ. 2106 01:50:15,800 --> 01:50:20,200 Speaker 8: Warner sony Kurt Water going up against Nevada, which had 2107 01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:23,320 Speaker 8: Chuba Purdy, brother of Brock perty. He went zero for 2108 01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:26,320 Speaker 8: four with two interceptions. Replaced and Nevada is back in 2109 01:50:26,360 --> 01:50:29,800 Speaker 8: the game. About a minute ago, Fresno State is taking 2110 01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:32,519 Speaker 8: a knee up twenty to seventeen over the wolf Pack. 2111 01:50:32,600 --> 01:50:36,080 Speaker 8: It was twenty to three at the half. Mid fourth quarter, 2112 01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:39,799 Speaker 8: Duke has tacked on another touchdown thirty eight to twenty 2113 01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:42,840 Speaker 8: one at cal col scored touchdowns on its first three 2114 01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:47,599 Speaker 8: drives and hasn't scored since. Number one Ohio State forty 2115 01:50:47,640 --> 01:50:50,479 Speaker 8: two to three over Minnesota next Saturday on Fox TV 2116 01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:53,799 Speaker 8: Ohio State at Illinois the Alina one at Purdue Today. 2117 01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:56,920 Speaker 8: Number three Miami was ahead at Florida State twenty eight 2118 01:50:56,960 --> 01:51:00,880 Speaker 8: to three early in the fourth quarter twenty eight twenty 2119 01:51:00,960 --> 01:51:03,880 Speaker 8: two to the final four touchdown passes for Carson Beck 2120 01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:07,400 Speaker 8: Oklahoma and Texas A and m with wins. Ucla with 2121 01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:10,880 Speaker 8: the monstrous upset of number seven Penn State forty two 2122 01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:14,519 Speaker 8: to thirty seven Florida beat number nine Texas twenty nine 2123 01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:18,040 Speaker 8: twenty one shows you what the preseason polls mean for starters. 2124 01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:20,160 Speaker 8: I didn't know who the top two teams were in 2125 01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:23,080 Speaker 8: this year's preseason poll. Apparently it was Texas and Penn State, 2126 01:51:23,120 --> 01:51:25,639 Speaker 8: and they've each lost two of their first. 2127 01:51:25,479 --> 01:51:26,719 Speaker 7: Five games already. 2128 01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:30,840 Speaker 8: According to sport Radar, that had only happened, well, let's 2129 01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:35,720 Speaker 8: see once since nineteen fifty until this year. Because Texas 2130 01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:38,280 Speaker 8: and Penn State have each already lost two of their 2131 01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:43,280 Speaker 8: first five games. Alabama over Vanderbilt thirty to fourteen. Bama 2132 01:51:43,280 --> 01:51:45,640 Speaker 8: was trailing fourteen to seven just before the half, but 2133 01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:49,000 Speaker 8: Ty Simpson had three hundred forty yards passing Texas Tech 2134 01:51:49,040 --> 01:51:52,240 Speaker 8: and Georgia each one. Cincinnati at home led fourteenth ranked 2135 01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:55,920 Speaker 8: Iowa State thirty one seven just before halftime, thirty eight 2136 01:51:55,920 --> 01:51:58,599 Speaker 8: to thirty the final. Cincinnati is a team thirty four 2137 01:51:58,640 --> 01:52:02,959 Speaker 8: carries two hundred six yards rushing. Michigan had only one penalty, 2138 01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:06,200 Speaker 8: no turnovers. One at home against Wisconsin twenty four to ten. 2139 01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:08,960 Speaker 8: I am old enough to remember when Wisconsin used to 2140 01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:12,160 Speaker 8: have a beefy offensive line and they could run against anybody. 2141 01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:15,519 Speaker 8: Wisconsin is two and three. Notre Dame trailed at home 2142 01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:18,439 Speaker 8: against Boise State seven to six late in the first half, 2143 01:52:18,479 --> 01:52:21,040 Speaker 8: twenty eight to seven. Irish the final as Boise threw 2144 01:52:21,080 --> 01:52:23,920 Speaker 8: four interceptions and was sacked four times total of twenty 2145 01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:27,559 Speaker 8: four accepted penalties in that game. Virginia in overtime won 2146 01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:30,880 Speaker 8: at Louisville thirty to twenty seven. Clemson dominated at North 2147 01:52:30,920 --> 01:52:34,600 Speaker 8: Carolina thirty eight ten, Washington with three touchdowns in the 2148 01:52:34,640 --> 01:52:37,919 Speaker 8: fourth quarter. One at Maryland twenty four to twenty. Next Saturday, 2149 01:52:37,960 --> 01:52:43,200 Speaker 8: Oklahoma at Texas, Oregon against Indiana Michigan at USC Raiders, 2150 01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:45,920 Speaker 8: tight end Brock Bowers is questionable with the knee injury 2151 01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:49,040 Speaker 8: trending toward not playing at Indya. According to NFL Network 2152 01:52:49,280 --> 01:52:52,920 Speaker 8: to Major League Baseball for Division series openers, these are 2153 01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:55,640 Speaker 8: openers of best of fives over the next week. The 2154 01:52:55,680 --> 01:52:58,120 Speaker 8: Dodgers were down three to nothing going to the sixth 2155 01:52:58,120 --> 01:53:01,479 Speaker 8: and still won at Philadelphia five to three, three run 2156 01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:04,800 Speaker 8: homer in the seventh from Taoscar Hernandez. The Phillies left 2157 01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:07,519 Speaker 8: bases loaded in the eighth. Sho hey Otani the winning pitcher, 2158 01:53:07,560 --> 01:53:11,000 Speaker 8: with nine strikeouts in six innings. For the record, the 2159 01:53:11,080 --> 01:53:14,519 Speaker 8: series are not over, but whoever wins Game one usually 2160 01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:17,160 Speaker 8: wins the best of five over seventy percent of the time. 2161 01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:17,960 Speaker 7: Historically. 2162 01:53:18,520 --> 01:53:21,519 Speaker 8: The Dodgers had quite the comeback last year at Yankee 2163 01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:23,840 Speaker 8: Stadium to clinch the World Series. They were down five 2164 01:53:23,960 --> 01:53:27,559 Speaker 8: nothing there, but in the Dodgers' long playoff history, when 2165 01:53:27,600 --> 01:53:30,840 Speaker 8: they're down at least three runs in a road playoff game, 2166 01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:34,920 Speaker 8: they had been one in sixty all time until last 2167 01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:38,880 Speaker 8: year's come back at Yankee Stadium and tonight at Philadelphia. 2168 01:53:39,040 --> 01:53:41,879 Speaker 8: Milwaukee's the number one overall seed, it led the Cubs 2169 01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:44,040 Speaker 8: nine to one in the second inning, nine to three. 2170 01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:48,400 Speaker 8: The final Milwaukee outfielder Jackson Curio left with hamstring tightness. 2171 01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:51,280 Speaker 8: Toronto led to to one against the Yankees in the seventh, 2172 01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:54,799 Speaker 8: ten to one. The final Blue Jays hit three solo homers, 2173 01:53:54,840 --> 01:53:58,200 Speaker 8: two by Alejandro Kirk three hits for Vladimir Guerrero Junior. 2174 01:53:58,240 --> 01:54:00,840 Speaker 8: He had a first inning homer. The Ronald Blue Jays 2175 01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:03,920 Speaker 8: at home against the Yankees this year are seven to one, 2176 01:54:04,439 --> 01:54:07,880 Speaker 8: and Yankee reliever Luke Weaver, who is such a discovery 2177 01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:10,639 Speaker 8: a year ago, has now allowed five runs in counting 2178 01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:13,360 Speaker 8: this week without getting it out, and his ERA in 2179 01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:16,560 Speaker 8: September was almost ten. Detroit took the late game in 2180 01:54:16,640 --> 01:54:19,880 Speaker 8: eleven innings at Seattle three to two. Julio Rodriguez said, 2181 01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:22,439 Speaker 8: three it's in the lost. Both RBIs for the Mariners 2182 01:54:22,720 --> 01:54:25,559 Speaker 8: and Seattle All Star pitcher Brian who is still out 2183 01:54:25,560 --> 01:54:29,400 Speaker 8: with pictorial inflammation not on the roster, and the NHL 2184 01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:34,200 Speaker 8: regular season starts Tuesday. Preseason ended tonight's NBA preseason. The 2185 01:54:34,280 --> 01:54:38,040 Speaker 8: Knicks beat Philadelphia and Abu Dhabi again. Orlando in Puerto. 2186 01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:39,240 Speaker 7: Rico beat Miami back to you. 2187 01:54:40,160 --> 01:54:42,800 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve Seger, Fox Sports Radio, Fox 2188 01:54:42,840 --> 01:54:46,080 Speaker 2: Sports Saturday aeron tors Jason Martin broadcasting live from the 2189 01:54:46,120 --> 01:54:49,560 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Studios. One segment left. We got a 2190 01:54:49,960 --> 01:54:53,320 Speaker 2: piece of audio that you have to hear and one 2191 01:54:53,320 --> 01:54:55,800 Speaker 2: that you can hear. We'll explain next. Fox Sports Radio. 2192 01:54:58,360 --> 01:55:02,000 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Air towards Jason Martin, broadcasting 2193 01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:04,040 Speaker 2: live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. If you missed 2194 01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:06,600 Speaker 2: any of today's show, you're gonna want to catch the podcast. 2195 01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:09,200 Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio where you get your podcasts. 2196 01:55:09,280 --> 01:55:12,280 Speaker 2: Right after the show, Today's pod will be going up. 2197 01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:16,680 Speaker 2: Just search for the podcast rate at five stars and 2198 01:55:16,720 --> 01:55:20,040 Speaker 2: you can even leave a review. Fox Sports Radio Weekends. 2199 01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:22,320 Speaker 2: Just search that wherever you get your podcasts, and you'll 2200 01:55:22,320 --> 01:55:25,840 Speaker 2: find today's full show right after we get off air. 2201 01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:29,400 Speaker 2: All right, j mart A couple other topics. We have 2202 01:55:29,480 --> 01:55:36,240 Speaker 2: not gotten to one noteworthy result in college football, and 2203 01:55:36,320 --> 01:55:38,120 Speaker 2: I have a piece of sound that you probably haven't heard, 2204 01:55:38,160 --> 01:55:41,440 Speaker 2: so I want to get to it. Clemson thirty eight 2205 01:55:42,360 --> 01:55:46,520 Speaker 2: North Carolina ten. Now I want your reaction to the game, 2206 01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:49,839 Speaker 2: but I want to first play a piece of sound. 2207 01:55:49,960 --> 01:55:53,800 Speaker 2: This was during the game. They were interviewing students about 2208 01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:58,160 Speaker 2: the state of UNC football. Ian go ahead, TCU is. 2209 01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:01,320 Speaker 4: I went to that game and that was that was 2210 01:56:01,320 --> 01:56:04,440 Speaker 4: one of the saddest feelings I've had in university so far. 2211 01:56:04,520 --> 01:56:07,480 Speaker 4: And I've failed midterms before, so it's saying sometimes. 2212 01:56:08,320 --> 01:56:12,360 Speaker 2: I failed midterms and the TCU loss was bad. I 2213 01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:14,720 Speaker 2: don't know what to make a Clemson considering it was 2214 01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:18,000 Speaker 2: basically over by the end of the first quarter. I 2215 01:56:18,280 --> 01:56:20,680 Speaker 2: give you credit, man, because I was a little bit 2216 01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:24,120 Speaker 2: more optimistic on this than you were. It's a disaster. 2217 01:56:24,480 --> 01:56:27,800 Speaker 2: It's bad, and frankly, I don't really see the scenario 2218 01:56:27,880 --> 01:56:28,880 Speaker 2: where it gets a ton better. 2219 01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:34,960 Speaker 3: Man. No, I don't either, and it's just every bit 2220 01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:38,240 Speaker 3: of it is bad. And after the game, Belichick saying, 2221 01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:40,280 Speaker 3: you know, we're gonna stay the course, not gonna make 2222 01:56:40,280 --> 01:56:42,440 Speaker 3: any big time changes, any of this, all this kind 2223 01:56:42,440 --> 01:56:45,520 Speaker 3: of stuff. It's gonna be a process. Mich Lombardi sent 2224 01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:52,760 Speaker 3: that letter out to all the boosters this week, basically 2225 01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:55,760 Speaker 3: throwing all the players under the bus and saying, look, 2226 01:56:55,760 --> 01:56:57,480 Speaker 3: we knew this is gonna be a process because we 2227 01:56:57,520 --> 01:56:59,720 Speaker 3: had so many people transfer out and this is what 2228 01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:04,920 Speaker 3: we god. Like imagine sending that out like while you're 2229 01:57:04,920 --> 01:57:08,040 Speaker 3: in the middle of the season. Basically saying that the 2230 01:57:08,040 --> 01:57:10,960 Speaker 3: guys that are on the field aren't good enough, like 2231 01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:14,000 Speaker 3: you're gonna need to take some ownership for this, like 2232 01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:17,200 Speaker 3: you you're gonna have to do this because you know 2233 01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:19,280 Speaker 3: you're supposed to be better than this and all this 2234 01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:21,240 Speaker 3: other kind of stuff. And then you even have the 2235 01:57:21,280 --> 01:57:26,160 Speaker 3: players saying, you know, we're not here not to win games, 2236 01:57:26,480 --> 01:57:28,960 Speaker 3: like I saw it, like they're frustrated as well because 2237 01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:30,600 Speaker 3: they don't agree with the quotes and the way the 2238 01:57:30,640 --> 01:57:32,600 Speaker 3: thinks that we're not here for a process. I didn't 2239 01:57:32,640 --> 01:57:35,000 Speaker 3: come here to lose games. I didn't come here to 2240 01:57:35,040 --> 01:57:36,640 Speaker 3: be a part of a rebuild. I came here to 2241 01:57:36,680 --> 01:57:38,400 Speaker 3: win games. That was one of the quotes from the 2242 01:57:38,400 --> 01:57:41,760 Speaker 3: players after this, This is getting real bad, real fast. 2243 01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:45,959 Speaker 3: And when you got you know, Keenan Stadium three quarters 2244 01:57:46,000 --> 01:57:50,040 Speaker 3: empty by halftime in a game against Clemson and we're 2245 01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:53,200 Speaker 3: not even halfway through the season. I mean, Carolina has 2246 01:57:53,200 --> 01:57:56,960 Speaker 3: already moved on like that. The fan base there, the 2247 01:57:57,040 --> 01:58:01,400 Speaker 3: student body there, they've seen enough. It's just there's nothing there. 2248 01:58:01,400 --> 01:58:04,040 Speaker 3: There's no there there at all, and you just have 2249 01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:05,480 Speaker 3: to go back and wonder. It's like, man, you know, 2250 01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:09,240 Speaker 3: when Brady went to Tampa Bay, man, what if Bill 2251 01:58:09,240 --> 01:58:14,160 Speaker 3: Belichick had just retired right there instead of trying to 2252 01:58:14,320 --> 01:58:16,920 Speaker 3: prove whatever it was that he's been trying to prove 2253 01:58:16,960 --> 01:58:19,880 Speaker 3: ever since then, if he had just left then and 2254 01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:21,760 Speaker 3: just said, you know, I think it's probably time for 2255 01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:25,080 Speaker 3: a new voice. Just like Tom's moving on, I think 2256 01:58:25,120 --> 01:58:27,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna move on as well, into the next phase 2257 01:58:27,120 --> 01:58:31,120 Speaker 3: of my life. Imagine how people would perceive Bill Belichick 2258 01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:35,400 Speaker 3: today as opposed to what we have seen because he 2259 01:58:35,480 --> 01:58:39,560 Speaker 3: has stuck around and tried to I don't really know 2260 01:58:39,640 --> 01:58:43,400 Speaker 3: what the goal was, but whatever it is, he's failed miserably. 2261 01:58:44,120 --> 01:58:46,280 Speaker 2: Tell you what. We only have just a minute left. 2262 01:58:46,360 --> 01:58:48,760 Speaker 2: I also want to get to another piece of sound. 2263 01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:54,720 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns named Dylan Gabriel the starting quarterback earlier this week. 2264 01:58:54,920 --> 01:58:59,560 Speaker 2: Here's what Shador Sanders had to say about it. Mary 2265 01:59:00,080 --> 01:59:04,400 Speaker 2: Mary sound, Oh wait, there is none because Shadoor Sanders 2266 01:59:04,480 --> 01:59:09,480 Speaker 2: J Mart doesn't maybe the mime thing whatever. By the way, 2267 01:59:09,520 --> 01:59:11,040 Speaker 2: Mary got scared in the back there. She thought she 2268 01:59:11,200 --> 01:59:11,760 Speaker 2: I did too. 2269 01:59:11,680 --> 01:59:13,800 Speaker 3: Because I wasn't at first. I was just like, wait 2270 01:59:13,840 --> 01:59:16,959 Speaker 3: a second, you're not supposed to say that on the Mica. 2271 01:59:17,320 --> 01:59:19,800 Speaker 2: Mary's the best. Let the record show, you know, who's 2272 01:59:19,840 --> 01:59:21,760 Speaker 2: not shador I thought it was weird. 2273 01:59:22,640 --> 01:59:23,200 Speaker 3: It was weird. 2274 01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:26,400 Speaker 2: I sort of get him saying everything that I say 2275 01:59:26,440 --> 01:59:27,600 Speaker 2: gets misquoted whatever. 2276 01:59:28,200 --> 01:59:28,720 Speaker 3: Very weird. 2277 01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:31,360 Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel your starter. We only have about a minute left. 2278 01:59:31,400 --> 01:59:32,160 Speaker 2: You take her wherever you want. 2279 01:59:32,240 --> 01:59:35,920 Speaker 3: Jmartin, Yes, I'll just say this everything. Let me tell 2280 01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:38,920 Speaker 3: you what can't get misconstrued. Man, I'm really excited to 2281 01:59:38,920 --> 01:59:41,840 Speaker 3: see Dylan at helmet this team. I'm gonna support him 2282 01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:43,400 Speaker 3: as best I can. Man, hope we can get a 2283 01:59:43,440 --> 01:59:45,200 Speaker 3: victory with him at the helm. Like I mean, you 2284 01:59:45,200 --> 01:59:48,360 Speaker 3: could say any number of things that can't be misconstrued 2285 01:59:48,800 --> 01:59:51,120 Speaker 3: like that. Right there is just not a good excuse. 2286 01:59:51,680 --> 01:59:54,720 Speaker 3: It's not like just there are many things you can 2287 01:59:54,760 --> 01:59:57,640 Speaker 3: say that will sound exactly the way that you want 2288 01:59:57,680 --> 02:00:00,320 Speaker 3: them to. Only things that are gonna be misconstrued are 2289 02:00:00,360 --> 02:00:03,280 Speaker 3: the things that are left way too vague. That's the 2290 02:00:03,360 --> 02:00:07,280 Speaker 3: problem here. The mind thing is basically like saying something 2291 02:00:07,280 --> 02:00:08,360 Speaker 3: without saying anything. 2292 02:00:08,920 --> 02:00:11,160 Speaker 2: Great. Call don't have much that he could have said 2293 02:00:11,200 --> 02:00:14,160 Speaker 2: something to support his teammate without basically being a weirdo. 2294 02:00:14,160 --> 02:00:15,400 Speaker 2: All right, we gotta get out of here. When I 2295 02:00:15,400 --> 02:00:17,720 Speaker 2: thank the crew, including Mary Mack, who has been awesome 2296 02:00:17,800 --> 02:00:21,080 Speaker 2: all night. Let the Record show producer Ian has been awesome. 2297 02:00:21,160 --> 02:00:23,760 Speaker 2: Steve Disager is always awesome. For my partner Jason Martin, 2298 02:00:23,800 --> 02:00:27,560 Speaker 2: I'm Aren Torres. Make sure to download the podcast. So 2299 02:00:27,720 --> 02:00:31,200 Speaker 2: much good conversation, jaymar I love these Saturdays. It's September 2300 02:00:31,200 --> 02:00:33,760 Speaker 2: in October where we we have too much to talk 2301 02:00:33,800 --> 02:00:36,160 Speaker 2: about in three hours, So make sure to download the 2302 02:00:36,200 --> 02:00:40,000 Speaker 2: podcast and as importantly, make sure to stay tuned. Bernie 2303 02:00:40,040 --> 02:00:42,800 Speaker 2: Fratto Up next, Bernie Fratto Up the Bernie Fratto Show, 2304 02:00:42,800 --> 02:00:45,600 Speaker 2: taking me up till six am Eastern. This is Fox 2305 02:00:45,640 --> 02:00:46,280 Speaker 2: Sports Radio