WEBVTT - WokeAF Daily 4.16.20 - The Trump Threat 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:17.600 Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Woke a F Daily 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:21.160 with meet your girl, Danielle Moody right here live from 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:25.720 the Bunker. Remember to subscribe to PM mood and you 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:29.880 get Woke a F Daily four free for the next 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:34.839 three weeks. So wherever you get your podcast Spotify, Google Play, Apple, 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:38.640 any of those places, subscribe to PM mood and get 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:42.080 Woke a F Daily in your feed. It is my 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:48.920 quarantine gift to all of you. It is another day 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:53.199 in quarantine. I think that here in New York we 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:56.120 are up to maybe day forty seven. Who the hell 0:00:56.200 --> 0:01:02.320 knows one day meld into another. But what is keeping 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:06.600 my attention and keeping my fury is this administration. I 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:10.399 don't know how many more fucking stories we need to 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:14.800 break that tell us about how much the Trump administration 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:19.039 knew about the coronavirus, how much they decided not to 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:23.479 act Now. The latest reporting from the Washington Post tells 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:27.039 us that while the United States was telling people not 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:30.119 to get masks and not to wear them in public 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:33.760 and that they wouldn't need them, that the Trump administration 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:39.000 was buying mass from Taiwan for senior officials. You know, 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:43.559 it's not enough that Jared Kushner called the federal supply 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:48.280 of ventilators hours. It's not enough that Trump is, you know, 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:53.200 like an infomercial used car salesman, trying to have people 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:59.840 believe the hype about the hydroco clean pill that is 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:06.040 being sold by his biggest donor. I mean, it's just 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:11.680 one fucking scandal after another. And in the interim of 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:14.560 all of this, of dealing with all of this bullshit 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:17.760 on a regular basis, here's another thing that is added 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:21.679 to the pile. You know why your stimulus check is 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:24.560 going to be late because Donald Trump wanted to put 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:27.639 his fucking name on it, because he wanted to sign 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:32.240 it right so that he could say I gave you 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:36.440 American person a check right, as if he's cutting it 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:40.400 out of his own fucking money. At the narcissism, the 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:48.040 ignorance really at this point is deadly. There was a 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:52.600 rally that was held yesterday a protest, an anti coronavirus 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:58.520 protest to protest being on lockdown and staying home. Stupid 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:04.600 idiot Republicans decided to gather in mass to protest and 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:08.120 say that they believe the coronavirus is a hoax and 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:11.919 to own the liberals, they're gonna get out into the streets. 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:13.600 Good for you. And you know what I say to 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:17.040 those people, go lick as many fucking poles as possible. 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:19.519 Why don't you go to the grocery store and lick 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:23.280 the fucking conveyor belt. Like, if you are that dumb, 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:27.520 if you are that ignorant, then by all means, you know, 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.799 you ask yourself, how did we get here? How did 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:38.800 we get to a place where people are so ignorant 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:43.440 that they refuse to believe science, that they refuse to 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:48.240 believe facts, that they are just so within, so deep 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:52.200 in their tribe and in their bubble, that they would 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:56.600 put their lives at risk that of their family and 0:03:56.640 --> 0:04:00.600 their friends because they believed this president when he said 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:03.960 that this was a democratic hoax. You know, this is 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:07.200 what I'm saying. When people don't understand that words have power, 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.880 and everyone just kind of shrugs off the ship that 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:13.760 Donald Trump says. But there are real people out there 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:17.200 forty percent of the population that believes the things that 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:23.960 he fucking says and takes them to heart and believes 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:29.080 everything that Foxnews says, and they are putting people's lives 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:33.400 in danger. If Fox News and Donald Trump did the 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:36.839 right thing and told people, you know what, this is 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:41.000 actually fucking dangerous. Do you know what happened yesterday? Yesterday 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:48.000 was the deadliest day for the coronavirus. Thousands of people died. 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:55.840 More people died yesterday then died in the Twin Towers 0:04:56.200 --> 0:05:01.960 in New York on nine eleven. But did you hear 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:04.640 Donald Trump mention any of that at his press conference? 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:07.640 Did you hear him offer any bit of empathy, any 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:11.960 bit of sadness that over twenty five thousand Americans are dead, 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:18.920 have lost their lives. Do you hear him offering any 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:23.040 kind word, any word of encouragement to let us know 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.760 that we as Americans have been through tough times and 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:30.840 we'll get through this together. No, he spends his time 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:39.159 congratulating himself, congratulating his business partners, patting CEOs on the back, 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:43.479 and when he is caught off guard by you know, 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:49.880 real questions from real reporters who ask follow ups like 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:55.440 PAULA Reed did, like Yamish alisindor does he loses his mind? 0:05:56.680 --> 0:06:00.800 We are starting to see, at least with CNN, that 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:05.920 their chirns are actually fact checking the president in real 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:09.680 time as he's speaking that they are calling out his 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:13.600 behavior and not just ignoring it, because it fucking matters. 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:20.320 All of this, all of this us being in this 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:27.080 moment could have been avoided if we didn't provide Donald 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:30.839 Trump with the free airtime that he's been given ever 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:36.720 since he came down in the escalator. If we had 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:44.880 called out his lies, called out his impossibly childish behavior, 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.680 maybe Madam President would be leading us in a crisis. 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:53.960 And do you know what the women are showing, the 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:57.400 women that are heads of state, heads of countries right now, 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:00.840 that there have the ability to flatten curve. You know why? 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:04.040 Because I believe that women put less of their ego 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:10.880 out front when leading. They surround themselves with the experts. 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:15.360 If they don't know, then they ask questions. But Donald Trump, 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:18.720 remember told us some four years ago, I alone can 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:25.400 fix this. Right. He doesn't take responsibility for anything that 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:27.800 has to do with the virus. But if things start 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.320 going well, then he's going to take responsibility for that. 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:36.320 How does that work exactly? Also, how do you talk 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:42.720 about reopening a country that you never shut down? You know, folks, 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:48.280 we have two hundred plus days until election day. Okay, 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:52.120 I will talk with my friends today on the show 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:58.640 former federal prosecutor and MSNBC legal analyst Glenn Kirshner, and 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:03.280 we will talk withal scientist and political editor at The Grio, 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:09.640 Christina Grier, and I'm gonna unpack. We're gonna unpack this 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:12.760 moment right the things that we are missing in the news, 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:18.200 William Barr, Attorney General Barr saying that we need to 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:24.840 return to a Christian country. What we'll talk about the 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:28.920 fact that you know, he's out there bribing the Australians 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:30.840 much in the same way that they did with the 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:34.760 Ukrainians to get more information about how the Mulla report 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:40.440 got started. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about the 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:44.840 fact that Wisconsin pretty much gave the president a big 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:51.720 middle finger with their election results. Welcoming back to Woke 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:56.319 af Daily, we are bringing back MSNBC and NBC News 0:08:56.440 --> 0:09:00.640 legal analyst and former thirty year federal prosecutor Glenn Kirshner 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:07.199 joining us to weed through I guess guide us through 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:12.800 the fact that Trump decided to dip his toes into 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:18.760 authoritarianism by expressing this week that he has total control 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:23.200 over the States, only to then back off of his 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:29.120 claims about democratic governor's mutiny. Tell us, Glenn, how this 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:35.320 how Donald Trump is essentially just staring in the face 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:38.320 of the Tenth Amendment and saying, man, that seems like 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:41.880 a suggestion. Yeah, good morning, Danielle. That's one of the 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:44.840 amendments that Donald Trump doesn't really care for. Loves the 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:48.160 Second Amendment, not so much the Tenth Amendment. And when 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:51.520 you say he dips his toe into authoritarianism, I gotta 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:53.760 tell you, I think he has donned the crown, he's 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:55.960 put on a robe, he's picked up a scepter, and 0:09:56.080 --> 0:10:00.600 he has sat down on his throne. Because you know 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:05.400 what he completely ignores is that the tenth Amendment to 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:10.320 the Constitution, in twenty seven words, sets out the balance 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:14.480 of power between the federal government and the States. And 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:16.760 here's what it says. And then and then I'll of 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:18.720 the cipher it a little bit because it's in that 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:22.280 old English, right, So the Tenth Amendment just says that 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:25.840 the powers not delegated to the US by the Constitution, 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:30.320 nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:36.199 the states, respectively or the people. Now, James Madison summed 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:39.840 up what that means in the Federalist Papers, Number forty five. 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:43.079 And you know, let me just say, I'm going to 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:48.120 put up James Madison's understanding of the Constitution against Donald 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:51.520 Trump's every day of the week. I mean, James Madison 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:54.920 was only not only the founding father, but is often 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:58.800 referred to as the father of the Constitution. Right, our 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:03.120 fourth president. What he said, he said that the powers 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:07.040 of the federal government in the Constitution are and I 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:12.440 quote few and defined, and the powers of the state 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:18.920 government the state governments are and I quote numerous and indefinite. 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:25.400 I mean, the whole exercise was to you know, put 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:29.120 limits on the powers of the king. That kind of 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:32.439 is the charter of our country. Right, and yet Donald 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:37.280 Tump stood up on TV and said, literally, I have 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:41.440 total power. And then Daniel. What was even worse was 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.880 when you know, little Mikey Pence and I hate to 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.560 talk like that, I shouldn't be that smart alarchy. When 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:51.800 Vice President Pence stood up and co signed that statement 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:57.000 by the president that unconstitutional power grab by the president 0:11:57.040 --> 0:12:00.320 by saying, and I quote that's right, the president has 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:06.400 plenary power, plenary meaning absolute. That really was somehow more 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:09.360 upsetting because we know Donald Trump has never read the Constitution, 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:12.560 but Mike Fence probably as more than once, and he 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:16.520 actually knows what an outright liar he is being when 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:21.240 he co signs the president on having absolute power and authority. 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:24.559 But they don't care about being caught in lies. So 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.800 Donald Trump makes this declaration. Then he takes to his 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:33.160 favorite platform, to Twitter, to then say that the Democratic governors, right, 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:36.560 who were organizing amongst themselves? And why are they organizing 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:41.319 amongst themselves? Because there's no federal leadership, right, so they 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:46.880 are left to essentially design their own plans. The Northeast, 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:51.280 the West, they're all organizing. And he says that that 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:55.160 is an act of mutiny. How does that make sense? 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.120 It doesn't make sense. And we've known for three and 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:01.160 a half years that we've had a president. But you 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:05.720 know the problem is we have a presidency unhinged, where 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:12.199 there is nothing controlling, you know, how the presidency operates 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:16.480 these days. You would have thought that, you know, responsible 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:20.160 Republicans would have stepped in and said, you know, the 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:26.320 Republicans for all time have been states rights kind of people. 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:31.320 They are all about limiting the federal government's power. I mean, 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:35.880 how often did they complain about President Barack Obama wielding 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.920 too much power and trying to assert himself in ways. 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:44.000 They asserted that the conservative you know, leaders in the 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:49.480 country asserted was unconstitutional because the power resides in the 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:53.520 states by by design, the Tenth Amendment says, the power 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:57.679 resides in the states and the people except for those 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:01.079 very few things that the federal government gets to do 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:06.160 raise armies, collect taxes, nominate judges. I mean, there are 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:11.080 a very few things left to the president, and everything 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:15.440 else resides in the state and the people. So you 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:18.920 would have thought that these Republicans, who have believed that 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:21.400 to their core, if they're gonna taken at their word 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:24.840 for all time, would now be telling the President of 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:27.680 the United States, look sport, that is not the way 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:30.320 this stuff works. But we have both a president and 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:35.360 a presidency that seems to be completely unhinged, completely unmoored 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:39.200 to the rules that govern our country. You know, yesterday 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:47.120 Governor Cuomo, my governor, took to his normal briefings and 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:53.040 essentially provided Donald Trump and America with a lesson in 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:58.360 the Constitution and when over what it is that governors 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:03.160 can do right, which is run their states. I think 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:06.920 that after that, you know, I don't know who tapped 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:09.840 Donald Trump on the shoulder and whispered in his ear 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:13.560 and said, you know you can't tweet that. You know, 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:16.520 you can't do these things that you're saying that you're 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:20.160 going to do, such as just magically reopen a country 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:24.720 you didn't shut down. And you know, I wonder do 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:30.720 you think that what this, this this exercise in stupidity 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:35.720 that Donald Trump is engaging in. Do you think that 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:43.880 it will show people just how little power this particular 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:49.720 president has. Yes, or ordinarily I would say yes, Danielle. However, 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.400 what if the president continues to up the antient. Now 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:55.880 it looks like he hasn't because he's it looks like 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:58.040 he's I don't want to use the term punking out. 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:01.200 It looks like he's backing down right, And some of 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:06.680 his more recent tweets in his campaign rally masquerading as 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.880 a press conference last night, he was like, well, I'm 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:11.680 going to let the governors decide, but I'm going to 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:15.760 urge them to open immediately or almost immediately. So it 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:19.880 looks like somebody has tugged on his sleeve and said, 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:23.160 look sport, you can't order them to open, You can't 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:26.280 order them to close. You can't order them to do anything, 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:29.360 and maybe they put like a cartoon version of the tent, 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:32.120 and then then in front of him a little schoolhouse 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:35.160 flock left and then they said, look, mister president, you 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:38.000 actually can't do what you just told the American people 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:39.800 you're going to try to do. So it looks like 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:43.840 he's backing down. But then the question becomes does he 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.240 ratchet it up again? And does he say, you know what, 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:49.160 I don't just like you. You know, you can see 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:51.920 that his advisors over time tell him you can't do it, 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:53.720 you can't do it, you can't do it. And as 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.760 even Kelly said, if left to his own devices, with 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.840 yes people all around him, he will be impeached because 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.600 his instincts are just that bad and his understanding of 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.000 the presidency is just that poor. And in fact he 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:07.760 was impeached. But will will he get that, you know, 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:11.320 impatience again? Will he ratchet it up? And will he say, listen, 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:14.000 I've decided, don't tell me I can't do it. I'm 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:17.919 ordering the states to open their economies, to open their businesses. 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:21.640 And if they don't, hey, military, y'all busy right now? 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:24.159 And then what do we have? Do we have you know, 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:29.000 national guards from various states up against our military. I mean, 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:33.760 let's hope go and knock, go and knock on doors 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:35.920 and pull people out by their shirt collars and say 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:38.000 that you have to go to work. Yeah, there's no 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:41.800 practical way to sort of set out or design how 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:45.080 it would work, because it shouldn't work, because that is 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:48.280 not our system of government. My fear is always Donald Trump, 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:51.080 because he doesn't understand and he doesn't honor our system 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:54.800 of government. May try to do something, you know, tomorrow 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:58.080 even crazier than today. So all of the blame that 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:01.800 Donald Trump is trying to shift, Right, he is trying 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:09.320 to shift the blame of not taking any thoughtful, actionable 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:12.800 measures to keep Americans safe. Right, he had a two 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:17.879 month head start. He squandered it by calling this pandemic 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:21.600 a hoax. He has blamed China, he tried to, you know, 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:26.000 change the name of the virus right into essentially a 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:31.720 racist epitaph. And now he's cut funding to the World 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:35.160 Health Organization in the midst of a global pandemic. Yeah, 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:39.240 his recklessness causes lives. It costs lives, It costs American lives. 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:42.120 There's no two ways about it. But Is it a crime? 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:45.600 This is this is the question that I keep coming 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:49.640 back to because we call them criminals. We know that 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:52.560 he has been impeached. It is just it has just 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:56.760 been brought to the attention by the Daily Beast that 0:18:56.880 --> 0:19:02.440 William Barr right in the midst of negotiating hostages. Who 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:07.080 who knew about this? I didn't hostages being released Australian 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:13.120 hostages being released from Iran's favor though, was another freaking 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:16.840 favor from a foreign leader, as it pertains to the 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:21.800 Muller report. How glad, how I don't know you think it, 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:24.040 Danielle let and you know you hit the nail rout 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:28.960 of ahead no bars, globe trotting, basically engaging in qui 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:32.080 pro quos with foreign government saying, oh, you want X, 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:34.119 Y and Z from the United States, you want our 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:38.159 help in releasing some bloggers that are being Australian blockers 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:41.840 that are being held in Iran. We need a favor, though, 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:45.760 We need you to help us unravel the origins of 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:49.000 the Muller investigation. I mean that you know that we 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:53.040 don't do criminal justice by quid pro quo. I mean, 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:56.000 and we can talk all day long about how yes, 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:58.080 we plea bargain, and isn't that a form of quick 0:19:58.119 --> 0:19:59.879 pro quo and I we can have a rope ust 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:03.680 debate on that. But he is running around the globe 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:08.560 leveraging the United States power to give to other countries 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:11.720 what they want as long as those countries will help 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:15.200 undermine the Muller Report and help work to the advantage 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:19.320 the political advantage of Donald Trump. I mean, you know, 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:22.200 just when you think it doesn't get any more dangerous 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:25.480 or any more unhinged, we learn about this. I think 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:30.399 yesterday we got this article. It is just, yes, we 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:36.720 got it yesterday. It just seems to be no end. 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:39.959 There seems to be no end, Glenn. And in the 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:43.680 midst of all of this, they still continue to appoint 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:47.520 judges like I mean, what does the end look like. 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:51.600 The end looks like an enormous blue wave. Look, we 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:56.280 just got encouraging results from Wisconsin. Notwithstanding Trump's best efforts. 0:20:56.320 --> 0:21:01.159 The candidate for the Wisconsin Supreme Court that Trump was 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:05.919 backing got trounced, got trounced as an incumbent, mind you. 0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:09.720 So this is just a continue indication that the blue 0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:14.320 wave that was building in twenty eighteen during the midterms 0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:17.199 continues to build. And here's what it looks like, in 0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:23.040 my opinion, once it sweeps Vice President Biden into power 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:27.880 and he becomes president, he actually appoints people who will govern, 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:34.320 who will lead from a place of honesty, integrity, empathy, compassion, decency, 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:38.199 and a genuine concern for the working class and for 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:41.640 the least among us in our country who need their 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:45.119 help the most. They will actually lead from that place. 0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:47.640 But here's the other thing they have to do. They 0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:53.840 have to investigate this criminal cabal that is the Trump administration. 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:57.080 And it's Trump, it's Pence, it's Pompeo, it's Mulvaney, it's 0:21:57.119 --> 0:22:01.440 bar it's Manution, it's all and it's rotis Ibaka, it's 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:06.240 all of them. Not as retaliation, not as what's called 0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:13.640 pejoratively victor's justice, but actual justice. It's not vindictive. If 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:17.399 there have been people committing crimes in plain sight, but 0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:21.240 because they've enjoyed the protection of the party in power, 0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:25.760 they haven't been investigated. It doesn't make it retribution or 0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:30.200 revenge or retaliation. When the other party comes into power 0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:33.800 and says, we see all these crimes that have gone unaddressed, 0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:37.400 we now have a responsibility to investigate them and if 0:22:37.400 --> 0:22:41.200 the evidence supports it, to prosecute them. So that's why 0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:43.720 all of these crimes will have to be investigated, and 0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:46.600 if the evidence supports it, they'll have to be prosecuted. 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:51.280 Let the criticism come. Let people say you're just being vindictive. No, 0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:56.480 we're not. We're just belatedly enforcing the laws. Do you 0:22:56.600 --> 0:23:00.800 think that you know, Joe Biden is coming off of 0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:09.679 the height of endorsements right from Bernie Sanders to Barack 0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:16.600 Obama to now Elizabeth Warren. Does he make this right 0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:23.600 holding Trump responsible for all of his criminal behavior, for 0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:27.560 all of his actions against the United States. Does he 0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:30.639 make that part of his campaign? That's a great question. 0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:34.400 I think he's already on record as saying, I will 0:23:34.520 --> 0:23:37.800 let the Attorney General do what the Attorney general is 0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:41.800 supposed to do, independent of the White House and independent 0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:46.400 of the President, investigate what in the world went on, 0:23:46.600 --> 0:23:50.879 and then, if appropriate, great prosecutions that I think is 0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:52.960 the right balance the strikes. So I don't as much 0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:56.040 as we all you know, And here's why that question 0:23:56.160 --> 0:23:58.720 is difficult to answer, and I can, I can. I 0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:01.119 can argue it both ways, that I can argue the 0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:04.120 upside and the downside of answering that question both ways. 0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:06.919 Here's why it's so difficult to answer. We already have 0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:10.600 virtually an indictment of ten count indictment, and it's Volume 0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:13.320 two of the Mulla Report, where there are ten felony 0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:17.359 obstruction of justice offenses that are documented in there against 0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:21.880 the president. Ordinarily, we need an investigation before we can say, 0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:25.639 should Joe Biden make as a plank of his platform 0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:30.560 that these people will be prosecuted. We already have an indictment, 0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:35.080 so it's we're already ten steps down the road to 0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:39.280 answering that question. Yes, of course there must be prosecutions, 0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:42.120 because we've already seen that the crimes have been committed. 0:24:42.160 --> 0:24:45.200 But I still think VP Biden is taking the sort 0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:50.240 of thoughtful principle conservative approach of saying, when I'm elected, 0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:53.000 I will let my attorney general do what an attorney 0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:55.560 general is supposed to do, independent of the White House, 0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:59.600 investigate and, if appropriate, prosecute. You know, the question that 0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:01.960 I asked you all the time just because I need to, 0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:06.919 you know, I need to calm my nerves. Can this 0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:15.280 president move the election? Not lawfully? But when has that 0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:19.320 ever stopped him? Correct. So the answer is he will try, 0:25:19.920 --> 0:25:26.159 and ordinarily the law would disallow it. But unfortunately, because 0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:30.439 Bill Barr is the one who determines what the law 0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:34.840 will and will not allow, I fear Bill Barr will 0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:39.880 enable him, will find some ridiculous argument to make that 0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:45.000 in this time of national emergency, there is some legal 0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:49.600 vehicle that allows the elections to be postponed, even though 0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:51.680 he would be wrong about that. But he's been wrong 0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:54.440 about so much else before, So what would stop Barr 0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:58.080 from being wrong again and telling Trump? You know what, 0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:00.639 mister president, I think if we call one eye and 0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:03.240 turn our heads at a certain angle, we can find 0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:08.040 a legal vehicle to postpone the elections. What in the 0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:10.919 world is going to stop Donald Trump and Bill Barr, 0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:15.680 that corrupt tandem from trying to do that. I think 0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:20.000 they'll fail. There is there anything that fail. I think 0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:22.320 they will fat Okay, but I think it's going to 0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:24.840 be a Donnie Brook hold on tight. It's going to 0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:29.679 be a battle royale, and hopefully, you know, what is 0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:33.199 right and fair and just and lawful will win the day. 0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:36.359 We'll have the elections in November and Trump will be 0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:39.760 swept out. You know of the oval office. I pray 0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:43.880 that you are right. I really do, because every single day, 0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:49.160 you know, something else. It's like they just throw everything 0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:52.560 at the wall. And in this time of great anxiety 0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:55.160 and great strife, they know that we can't possibly pay 0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:57.960 attention to it all. Like when I saw the report 0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:03.040 about the Aussie Prime minister, a dear God, like this 0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:06.840 is this is just but but but months after impeachment 0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:10.840 and this is what they're doing. So one can only 0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:15.240 imagine what happens if they aren't stopped, if we the 0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:20.240 last frontier do not stop them in November, God help 0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:23.000 this country. Yeah. And Donald Trump, though, is the only 0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:25.760 way to stay out of prison is to get reelected. 0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:28.960 I've never seen the defense in a criminal case of reelection, 0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:32.680 but that is his only defense. It's the only thing 0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:36.360 keeping him out of jail. Yep. And you know, when 0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:39.280 people's backs are against the wall, they will do pretty 0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:42.199 much anything. And I know that in your thirty year career, 0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:45.440 I'm sure you've seen it all, but this is still 0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:52.720 absolutely shocking coming out of a president of the United States. 0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:57.399 It's still I reserve, you know, I am often not 0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:01.760 shocked by Donald Trump anymore, but it's just the brassness 0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:06.920