1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: Hey, besties, Hello sunshine. It's Friday, November twenty ninth, and 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 1: we're wishing you all the very best as you enjoy 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: your Thanksgiving holiday. 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: Yes, and as a little cherry on top of this Friday, 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: as we're all savoring leftovers and quality time with our 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: friends and families, we want to share an encore presentation 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 2: of our chat with Raven Simone. On a personal note, Besties, 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: I never thought in a million years that we would 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: get to sing the theme song to That's so Raven 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: with Raven herself. I mean career highlight, right, Danielle. 11 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, Raven was so much fun and actually her 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: wife Miranda came with her to record and she was 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: so much fun. And so this December we're going to 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: be guests on their podcast called Tea Time. 15 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: I'm excited for that. 16 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: You know, this is out of my comfort zone. I'm 17 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: normally in the chair where I'm asking the questions. But 18 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: this is going to be so much fun with them. 19 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: It's going to be great. 20 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 3: Well. 21 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: In the meantime, enjoy our conversation with Raven Simone, Danielle. Danielle, 22 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 2: today is such a big day for the show. We 23 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: have Raven Simone here with us today. 24 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 3: Are you crying? Not yet, not yet, but there will 25 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 3: be tears, I'm sure. I'm so excited about this. 26 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: She's one of the few people in Hollywood who has 27 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: almost checked every box. She's hosted, she's acted, she's directed, 28 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: she's danced, I mean just across the board. 29 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: Well, she checked the box of My Heart a long 30 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: time ago. I've probably seen every episode of that So Raven. 31 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 2: I just have these vivid memories of me and my 32 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: little cousin Maya sitting on her couch watching that So 33 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: Raven until we passed out. I mean not to get 34 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: too deep, but like we were actually going through some 35 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: grief as a family, and Raven Simone just brought so 36 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 2: much joy to our lives. Like she was just so 37 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: goofy and silly and fun and free, and that energy 38 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: was so contagious. 39 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: I feel like that's what the best comedians do, right, 40 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: if they like bring joy in in good times and 41 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 1: in hard times. 42 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: Fun fact about that So Raven, it was actually the 43 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: first time a black woman starred in a self titled 44 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: comedy series on the Disney Channel. 45 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 3: I mean that's huge. 46 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: Like, I truly don't know that we have given Raven 47 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 2: Simone enough credit for how much of a trailblazer she is. 48 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: Okay, we've talked about her acting chaps, we've talked about 49 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: her comedic genius. Can we talk about the Cheetah Girls, 50 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: Girl Power two point zero? 51 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: She had a girls, she had a sister. 52 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: Those albums and movies just brought so much joy to 53 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: our lives. And I actually didn't know this. She's released 54 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: four albums and performed on Broadway. She's really done so much. 55 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: Just a megawatt talent, and now she's in her game 56 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: show host era. 57 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 3: I'm so excited for her. 58 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: Raven Simon is currently hosting Scrabble on the CW and 59 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: she's actually a board game fan irl. Y'all, y'eall, what 60 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: do you think that we have to do to score 61 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: an invite to one of her legendary game nights? 62 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: How do that? 63 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 3: Okay? 64 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: That's our goal for this interview is we need an 65 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: invite to game night. 66 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 3: You and I are word girls. 67 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: I always say that my goal for an interviewer conversation 68 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: is to get another conversation. I want to get a 69 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: game night out of this conversation. 70 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: Okay, we're definitely putting that on our wish list, so 71 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: let's bring her in, the one and only Raven Simone. 72 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 3: Welcome to the bright Side. 73 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: Oh thank you. 74 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: I'm glad to be here. I have to fangirl just 75 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 3: for a moment. 76 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: You mean a lot to me because you were my 77 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: first famous Simone on TV. I know it's only part 78 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: of your name, okay, but for all the Simones in 79 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: the world, and for all the times people have misspelled 80 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: my name, I was just like, oh my gosh, there's 81 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: another Simone and she's goofy. 82 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 3: Do you smell like similar? We don't, okay, but that's okay, 83 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 3: that's fine. It was the same, you know syllables exactly. 84 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: I feel like we have to give you your flowers 85 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: because you were the youngest black woman to have a 86 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: show named after her on television, one of the longest 87 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: running Disney Channel stars ever. I truly don't think you 88 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: get enough credit for what you did for POC representation 89 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: before we were even talking about representation, you know. 90 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: And then I looked at. 91 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: The comments beneath this YouTube interview that you did, and 92 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: it restored my faith in the internet, because clearly everyone 93 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: knows that you are still that girl. If I can, 94 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: I want to read you some of these comments. My 95 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: people said, this woman is literally living Black history. 96 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 3: She's my inspiration. She raised us, she is the blueprint. 97 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 2: Now, something that I've learned as I've gotten older is 98 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: that receiving love can often be harder than giving it immediately. Yes, 99 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: do you feel like you're at a stage in your 100 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: life where you're able to receive this love? 101 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 3: No? No, no, no, it's really I guess there's two 102 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 3: types to it, right, Like I hear you and I 103 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 3: say thank you, and that's a genuine thing, thank you, 104 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: in a genuine like oh, thank you. And then the 105 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 3: other part of me is like, who are you talking about? 106 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 3: Like I don't know who you're talking about, because I 107 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: was working so hard and a lot of stuff was 108 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 3: going on at certain times, and I wasn't always present 109 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 3: for those moments, so it is hard to receive the flowers. 110 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 3: And then sometimes I'm like, yeah, you're right, I was 111 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 3: that thank you. I do want my award that nobody 112 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 3: gave me, but and that doesn't sit all the time 113 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 3: on my shoulders. I don't. And then the other side 114 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 3: was like, you don't really need it because you have 115 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 3: so many other things that you want to do. And 116 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: I'm not in it for the awards. I'm in it 117 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 3: for the money, and I'm also in it floor real talk, 118 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: real time'll talk, we'll talk. You are so funny, but 119 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: I am. I'm in it to just keep working and 120 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 3: sustain my life. And people like Debbie Allen have been 121 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: working for years and I see her, She's healthy, she's happy, 122 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 3: and I'm like, that's what I want. I work so 123 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 3: I can live and enjoy life. 124 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: You know, when I saw how happy Debbiel and her 125 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: husband were in real life at a party, I just 126 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: looked at them and I thought, that's what I want. 127 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is special. That whole family is our goals 128 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 3: for me. I am friends with the family, and we 129 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: have waves like I'm in their life full, I'm like 130 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 3: sleeping over and then I'm like, I gotta go, i 131 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 3: gotta work, and we won't see each other for a while. 132 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 3: But all the while, we are always connected. And we 133 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: know how the industry will try to tear families apart, 134 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 3: who push wedges between people, but we understand it. We 135 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 3: can look each other in each other's souls and be like, 136 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: love you, love you to see you in the next one. 137 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: I love miss Debbie and her whole family. I was 138 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: having a conversation with my friend the other day. She's 139 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 2: a musician, but she said something that I thought was 140 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: really profound. She was like, it's not the failures that 141 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 2: you have to worry about, it's actually the successes, because 142 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: the successes are the things that can tear families apart. 143 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that is a true statement as well. Both 144 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 3: can do. Yeah, I'm going to be honest, like, especially 145 00:06:54,160 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 3: in our industry, failures haunt you forever. Really, I think so, 146 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 3: especially now a social media unless you pay somebody to 147 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 3: get it off the Internet, that's gone. Anytime you type 148 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 3: certain people's names, you're always going to see their failure first. 149 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 3: But yes, the successes in families just like a just 150 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: like a good old will reading that's funny, just like 151 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 3: a good old death. In a family, somebody's going to 152 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 3: be fighting for the success and that's my money. It's like, 153 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: oh goodness, gracious, go sit down. 154 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: So you bring up Debbie Allen. I want to talk 155 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: about Whoopee Goldberg because I love that. Did you meet 156 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: when you started co hosting the view? 157 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 3: So we met before, Actually, she remembers more than I do. 158 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 3: We met when I was a lot younger, and she 159 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: said I scared her because I was like an adult 160 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 3: in a baby's body and she was very scared of me. 161 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 3: I do not remember this moment, but we do have 162 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 3: a picture together and I'm like, it's probably that time 163 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 3: then when I did Sister Act. We met while I 164 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 3: was an adult officially conscious, and then we grew to 165 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 3: love each other and become family. 166 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: On the View, I interviewed Ego nowoh Deem a few 167 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: months ago and she has this photo with Whoopee and 168 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: she said that it felt like an invitation. I loved 169 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: that description because you're nodding your head, did it like 170 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: it feels like a stamp? 171 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 3: Almost? 172 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: What is that relationship or mentorship with Whoop? 173 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: You mean Whoopy? I don't even have a word to 174 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 3: describe Whoopy Goldberg and the energy field that she lives 175 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 3: in on an everyday basis. All I know is that 176 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: she's Auntie Whoop, and you know, she's a woman of 177 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 3: a certain age, so she has her times and her thoughts, 178 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 3: and she speaks her mind and she has her moods, 179 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 3: and at every single step of it, I'm like, what 180 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: do you need? I got I will hold your coattails 181 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: for you. Whatever you need. And my wife feels the 182 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: same way. My wife is like, you should call her more. 183 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 3: Like I still get starstruck because that's like Auntie whoop 184 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 3: in the phone. 185 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: Even when you're out her Thanksgiving table, your starstruck. 186 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 3: When she cooked for us, I'm still like thanks, thanks whoop. 187 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 3: Like I still she's majestic, She's a uni, she's immortal. 188 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 3: She's immortal, and she's looking better with age. Honey, have 189 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 3: you seen her recently. I don't know why she likes me. 190 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 3: I'm I'm projecting here, but I have a soul and 191 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: she has a soul still, even though we've been in 192 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: this industry for so long. And she checks in on me, man, 193 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 3: Like I just did the view the other day. She 194 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 3: didn't talk to me through the whole television interview. And 195 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 3: some people are like, why didn't you talk to you? 196 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: I said, because we had a whole conversation offline. We 197 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 3: don't have to talk in the public to show that 198 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 3: we love each other. Like she's like, you didn't call 199 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 3: me when your brother died. I'm mad at you because 200 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 3: you know what that is, and I'm supposed to be there. 201 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 3: I was like, you cared somebody. She is she's majestic. 202 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: I love here. Thank you for sharing that with us. Yeah, 203 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: don't worries, she's I love that woman. 204 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 2: Did it feel good to be able to dip in 205 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 2: and then dip out of the view on the faite time? 206 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: Every time? I kept one foot by the door. Yes, 207 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 3: in case they try to close me in. No, no, no, 208 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 3: I absolutely love the people there. Brian Teda to all 209 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 3: of the producers, would be Sarah, all the panelists. I 210 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 3: think that's a special place. I do get PTSD when 211 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: the cameras start rolling and we have to actually quote 212 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: unquote work and do the job that we're there for. 213 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,599 Speaker 3: That's not my favorite, but it is my favorite to 214 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 3: see those people and feel that love. It's a different 215 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 3: kind of love on that set. 216 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Raven, your range is so impressive, Like between your 217 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: work on the Cosby Show, That's a Raven, Raven's Home, 218 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: everything in between. You've truly amassed this intergenerational fan base. 219 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: But I want to know what's something only the real 220 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: Raven Simone fans know about you? 221 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: Ooh oh my goodness. 222 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: Great question and a toughie. 223 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess the real Raven Simone fans know 224 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 3: that I went on tour within sync back in the day. Yeah, 225 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 3: that I was like massively touring during hanging mister Gooper, 226 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 3: maybe how old were you when you were touring with 227 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 3: them with in sinc I was thirteen twelve area that 228 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 3: was the bye Bye Bye Erah goodness. Yeah, it was crazy. 229 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 3: Mandy Moore was on there, Jordan Knight was on there, 230 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 3: A third story was there. Yeah, it was. It was 231 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 3: a massive tour that I traveled around and I win 232 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 3: a bago because we didn't have any record label, and 233 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 3: went to every city that they did. And they had 234 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 3: two stages back then. Yeah, I mean like you had 235 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 3: one stage that was by the front that everybody came in. 236 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 3: It was like me and all the other ones, and 237 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 3: then you had the big stage. 238 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give all the listeners a little inside scoop. 239 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: Raven showed up fifteen minutes early. I did to our interview, 240 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: You're welcome. Well, you're one of the only people to 241 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: ever do that, and I wanted the reason I noticed 242 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: it was, I was thinking, you've spent so much of 243 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: your life on set. I was going to ask you 244 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: what you've picked up that you carry over into your life, 245 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: But timeliness, I think is one of them, because I 246 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: did not. 247 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 3: Get that from Segur. You didn't know that came from 248 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 3: people being late for me and me being irantated as 249 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 3: hall because you're late in your waisted my time. I 250 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 3: have things to do today. Why do you think that 251 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 3: you're more important than me? My wife is like yeah, 252 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 3: but we're in LA like fashionably late is like cool. 253 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 3: I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah, I get the car. We 254 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 3: got to go. It's the appointments at one. Let's get 255 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: the car at eleven o'clock. And I want to be 256 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 3: there just in case they could take me early, because 257 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: if I can get in early, I can go home 258 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 3: early and then I can go and just relax on 259 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: the couch. But I don't like when people have to 260 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 3: wait for me. I think it's disrespectful and I feel 261 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 3: disrespected when. 262 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: People do that to me. I think that's so cool. 263 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: I agree, completely agree. Okay, can we talk about that, 264 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: so Raven, let's do it. 265 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 3: So I'm dn't didn sorry, I'm not gonna do it. 266 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: I go. 267 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 2: It. 268 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 3: My soul is gonna leave my body. If he starts 269 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 3: singing the tee you guys sing with me, I'll sing it, 270 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 3: of course, of course, dn't, dn't. 271 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: Didn't. 272 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 3: If you can into the future, future future, my thing 273 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 3: life would be a dream. Life is a free trouble 274 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 3: from this time. Yeah, but it's not that easy. Oh no, 275 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 3: I try, Oh my wait, I just need a moment. 276 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 3: That was so insane, My jack it off because are 277 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 3: soo you don't understand ray. Maybe you do, I don't. 278 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't get it. I can't. I mean, 279 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 3: I try my version, I have my version. I cannot 280 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 3: do this interview anymore. 281 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm again, thank you so much. 282 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: When I tell my cousin that we just did, I 283 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 2: just I'm hilarious. 284 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 3: Oh thanks, ladies. 285 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: We have to take a short break, but we'll be 286 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: right back with Raven Simone. 287 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 3: And we're back with Raven Simone. 288 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: A lot of news has come out recently about how 289 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: during a few episodes of That So Raven, there was 290 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: footage that was edited of you to appear slimmer. Really, yeah, 291 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: were you aware of that? Yes, it's on the internet. 292 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: There was a former Disney Channel exec that wrote something, 293 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: where are they. 294 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 3: Her water? Wow? I can't believe they released that. Well, beans, 295 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 3: what do you say? Who was it? 296 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: Adam Bonnet specifically referenced a school dance episode. 297 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 3: So that's what raven is that it was during a 298 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 3: time when wait was not celebrated like it is now. 299 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 3: There's this really interesting thing you can do with film 300 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 3: when you're in television, and you can stretch the film, 301 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 3: so if you're wide and you stretch it long ways, 302 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 3: you look skinnier. And there were talks about that. I 303 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 3: can't believe he said that out loud. Okay, Adam, do. 304 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: You feel like that wasn't his story to tell? 305 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't care, it's uh, that's actually if he 306 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 3: was the one who started it, that's fine. But I 307 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 3: also know the culprits in that conversation that I will 308 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 3: not name right now. In hindsight, how do you feel 309 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: about that? 310 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: Because you were just a kid, Like, it's not like 311 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: you had say over them doing that, or. 312 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 3: In hindsight, I was told I was fat all the time, 313 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 3: Like I'm used to that on set as a kid. Yeah, 314 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: but not by people on set. Where was it coming 315 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: from behind the scenes. That was the industry executives. No, 316 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 3: not at all. That was the industries. That was the 317 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 3: industry back in the day. I mean, I don't know 318 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 3: if you guys remember, but back in the day. They 319 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 3: thought I had o Marion's baby because I was fat. 320 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 3: They were like, she must be pregnant. I'm like no, 321 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 3: I like in and out, go sit down, Like what 322 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 3: are you talking about? I'm depressed. Here's my food, Which 323 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 3: is why if you look get my pictures from back 324 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 3: in the day, Perez Hilton, she looks like a poodle. 325 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 3: I didn't get the same visuals as the other ladies 326 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 3: did because I didn't look the same, especially during that 327 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 3: time when I gained a lot of weight from a 328 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 3: really bad breakup, so in depression, all kinds of stuff. 329 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 3: But yeah, that was Why do you think I was 330 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 3: in heels during all of the Cheetah girls, Because if 331 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 3: you were heels, you're taller and you look skinnier. Who 332 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 3: struts in the middle of whose struts in Spain? Just heels? 333 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: When these ladies are in ballet flats, I love them. 334 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 3: I would have never noticed that. 335 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, how old were you when that footage was edited? 336 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 3: Oh I remember edited footage. I remember the conversation's happening 337 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 3: like from the start, So so that wasn't the only time. 338 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 3: Oh do you hold on to that? No, I actually 339 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 3: forgot about it. I'm really good at disassociating you guys, 340 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 3: you guys. If you have a problem, just like forget 341 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 3: about it. 342 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: It works that all the experts say, just a good. 343 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: About The only problem is, like I've heard, if you 344 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: keep running from yourself, eventually you run into yourself. Oh 345 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: all day. 346 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 3: And I'm not writing about that right now. Okay, I'm 347 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 3: talking about the initial pain. Get rid of it, it's right, 348 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 3: and then you'll deal with it later. 349 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: How did you process those things as they were being 350 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: said to you? 351 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 3: Did you have someone that you could talk to about it? No? 352 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 3: How did I process it? I just did? Yeah, I 353 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 3: just did. You just do what you gotta do because 354 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 3: you have hundreds of people that rely on you to 355 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 3: show up for a job, You have goals, you have 356 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 3: overbearing people around you. And I was in a relationship 357 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 3: at the time and that person actually helped me with 358 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 3: a lot of my self esteem because of whatever. But honey, 359 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 3: if you only knew I'm writing a book. 360 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you were carrying so much from such a young age. 361 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 2: You started performing when you were what sixteen months or something? 362 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? 363 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a three year old and all he 364 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: says to me is like. 365 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: Fart, poopy, mommy, poopy being as fart. 366 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 3: I can't imagine someone being competent. 367 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 2: And incompetent and articulate enough at three years old to 368 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 2: do what you did. 369 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 3: You just I'm so impressed by you. Took a lot 370 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 3: of work. Took a lot of work. 371 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: Well. 372 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 3: I was watching that Hulu documentary Child Star. That was good. 373 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: I liked it. 374 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 3: I was a little afraid. I didn't know I was 375 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 3: going down. I mean, and you get to see the 376 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 3: cut beforehand. Yeah, I was like, Oh, this is good. 377 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:32,959 Speaker 3: I actually want people to watch it. 378 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: There's this one scene that really stuck with me where 379 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: you're having a conversation with Demi Lovado about a time 380 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 2: when you worked on her show, and you told her 381 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: that you instantly pinpointed this glazed overlook in her eyes, 382 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: and it sounds like you kind of experienced it too. 383 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 3: What did that term mean to you? Oh, I didn't 384 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 3: have a glaze. I was very aware of what's going on. 385 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 3: I think I was aware because I had multiple masks 386 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 3: that I was working through. I knew at eleven or 387 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 3: twelve that I was gay. So first mask towards fan, 388 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 3: next mask, family teaching me how to be in public, 389 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 3: that's the next mass next mask coming through, Like I 390 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 3: think I'm a little bit dudish, but I'm also in 391 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 3: a relationship with a guy, So here's the next mask. 392 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 3: I blocked out a lot of that. I never really 393 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 3: had the glaze. What I have is the ability to 394 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 3: turn off my light when I want to to not 395 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 3: be seen. And people might take that however you want to. 396 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 3: But with Demi and a couple other people that I 397 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 3: witnessed in the industry, the sadness is too thick to mask. 398 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 3: It's a little too thick to mask. And I'm sure 399 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 3: people meeting me at a certain age might have thought 400 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 3: the same thing. But I was very aware, so much 401 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 3: so that when I turned eighteen and I got free, 402 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 3: I was like, I need to go to therapy. This 403 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 3: is incorrect. And never had a drug problem, never had 404 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: an alcohol problem. I have other problems which all of 405 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 3: my partners know about, but they're getting better now, you 406 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 3: know what I mean. My wife has helped me so much, 407 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 3: and just grounding and integrating with who I am and 408 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 3: undoing programming, reprogramming and making sure that I'm a semi 409 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 3: well rounded human as best as you can be in 410 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 3: this industry and on this planet. 411 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: I personally as like a fan of yours have seen 412 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: the light turn back on. 413 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 3: Since you got with your wife. Thank you. It feels 414 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 3: like a lot changed. Yeah, a lot changed. It's not 415 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,959 Speaker 3: always a safe space, but my wife is a safe space. 416 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 3: And I was. You know, I had had a lot 417 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 3: of different things going on that I don't tell a 418 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 3: lot of people about because I try my best to 419 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 3: let the quote unquote celebrity of Raven Simone rule the 420 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 3: industry and not the personal life really bleed into it. 421 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 3: But thank you. Yeah, a lot of people said I 422 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 3: look a lot happier and it was. I was a 423 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 3: lot happier once I got married to her and who 424 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 3: she is and how she treats me. 425 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: When you say you let the celebrity of Raven Simone rule, 426 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: is that because you've seen it with other celebrities, or 427 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: what rules that decision? 428 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 3: What rules that decision? Is my old programming as well 429 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 3: as they weren't ready for me, Like, uh, I knew 430 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 3: who I was when my house door closed, you know 431 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 3: what I mean? Like that was me, that was hoodie, 432 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 3: that was my sexual orientation, my gender orientation, all that, 433 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 3: and then when I open the door to walk outside, 434 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 3: Oh hi, how are you tit's up, Let's do it. 435 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 3: Let's I'm a conversation. Hi like I know it. So 436 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 3: I just knew how to play that because my programming 437 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 3: taught me that that's what people want to see. And 438 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 3: it's still in that way, you know, especially as a 439 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 3: female in the industry, they need to lust after you. 440 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 3: For you to be popular, you need to have the 441 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 3: sex factor. And I never really totally grasped my sensuality 442 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 3: and sexuality in public view because that was not really 443 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 3: a true moment for me. Now, oh, being that I'm 444 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 3: in a comfortable space in my life and who I am. 445 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 3: I have it myself and if somebody sees it, they 446 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 3: see it well done. But it's not not like it 447 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 3: used to be. What do you think young closeted Raven 448 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 3: Simone needed to hear the most? What age? Pick an age? 449 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you pick the age. Oh goodness, I'm 450 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 3: gonna pick like seventeen. You don't have to continue the 451 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 3: facade anymore and lash out at people around you because 452 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 3: they want you to be something you're not. You don't 453 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 3: have to continue tho sad You're okay to just do you. 454 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 3: But then again, that would have been a lie because 455 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 3: at that time it was not okay, you know what 456 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: I mean? Like I needed to hear that the world 457 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 3: has changed, even in the past five years. It's changed, 458 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 3: you know, and it's rapidly doing that even more now, 459 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 3: more and more is okay. I don't know other than 460 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 3: you can quit. You can quit. Probably need to hear that. 461 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 3: Did that not feel like an option? That was no? No, no, 462 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 3: not feel that was not an option? Still is not. 463 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 3: Can't quit. You can't quit because I'm addicted to the life. 464 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 3: I'm addicted to the check. I like it now. I 465 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 3: found what I like in it bags In I was 466 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 3: doing things that I didn't like, you know what I mean? 467 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 3: So now I found I direct, I produce. I'm working 468 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 3: with my wife like, I have people around me that 469 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 3: I like, and I want to really work with begs In. 470 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 3: I probably should not have been. 471 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: In the public eye. I feel a heaviness when you 472 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: talk about that time. Just sitting here with you. I 473 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: know that you are doing your own development deal with 474 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: Disney now and you have opportunities to tell stories that 475 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: you want to share. I'm wondering what you're excited about producing. 476 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: If there's a gap you see the stories that you 477 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: want to tell. 478 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 3: Thanks to Disney for giving me an overall deal for 479 00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 3: directing and producing. Really excited about that. So obviously a 480 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 3: mandate for Disney Channel, and I want to make sure 481 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 3: that I'm a part of the zeitgeist of Disney Channel 482 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 3: and what they're looking for. So I just directed a 483 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 3: pilot called Alice in the Palace. It's a spin off 484 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 3: of Raven's Home with Michael Michelle Harris. She plays two 485 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 3: characters in one show. Awesome. I'm so proud of her. 486 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 3: We just got a cut of the pilot and I 487 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 3: started to tear up. What made you tear up? Why 488 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 3: a poc in a big princess dress for a television show? 489 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: I want to. 490 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 3: That's why. That's why I started tearing up. She's killing it. 491 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 3: She's killing it, and I hope they pick up the show. 492 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 3: That's one two. The stories I want to tell are 493 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 3: normalizing stories of someone that is an LGBTQ plus libgita 494 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 3: qua community. I like that. I don't like that agita 495 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 3: ligita qua, digita qua. 496 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: It's when I host lgbt Q i A events. Do 497 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: you think they'll be cool with me saying the legit 498 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: community Libgitaqua, I think. 499 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 3: If you make sure it has a French accent on 500 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 3: top of it. Yes, I would love to see you try, Danielle. 501 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 3: I would love Raymond and I'm sending you the fucking 502 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 3: video and I'll stick up for you girls. I just 503 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 3: can't say that. Listen, there's eighty million letters in our title. Now, 504 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 3: I just need something easier. Just give me one word. 505 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 3: I want to tell Libgitaqua stories that are not quote 506 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 3: unquote what some people would say, like, oh, you're forcing 507 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 3: it on us. No we're not. But I do want 508 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:49,239 Speaker 3: to have those romance holiday conversations. When it comes to 509 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: television shows and kids Network, I want to make things 510 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 3: that are actually funny. Now you're gonna say, what do 511 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 3: you mean? What I'm gonna say is I believe that 512 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 3: a taste for comedy is learned. I grew up with 513 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 3: Jim Carrey, I grew up with Adam Sandler, I grew 514 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 3: up with Lucy and all these people. I have a 515 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 3: taste for comedy that's different than and I love them. 516 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 3: But hear me out then a friend's cast and I 517 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 3: don't think that I'm trying to like give slapstick comedy 518 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 3: for everyone. But I do think that over the years. 519 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 3: Sometimes not all the times, and definitely not with my channel, 520 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 3: but sometimes comedy for kids can be watered down because 521 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 3: they talked down to kids, and I don't think that 522 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 3: that's necessary. That's one of the reasons I loved doing 523 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 3: the pilot because Michael Michelle Harris knows how to integrate 524 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 3: physical comedy as well as standard but I'm bump jokes, 525 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 3: but she does it in a way to where it 526 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 3: doesn't seem corny, and I don't want to give kids 527 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 3: corny material anymore. I want to laugh along with children's 528 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 3: comedy at the same time a four year old is 529 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 3: laughing the Shrek effect. I think that's fantastic, and I 530 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 3: want to make sure that happens with anything that I 531 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 3: touch within the Disney universe. 532 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: I just had a whole revelation as you were speaking 533 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 1: about this. 534 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 3: Do you have a vision light a second? See? That's 535 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 3: so raven. 536 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 2: Question I really want to ask you, and I'm embarrassed 537 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 2: to ask, is what is the secret to mastering that? 538 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: Oh? 539 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 3: Finda look, okay, Isaac, there is a secret. What is it? 540 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 3: There is a secret. You have to keep your mouth 541 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 3: slightly opened and your tongue down. 542 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: I feel like she's drinking us right, I'm not. 543 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 3: I swear you can open your eyes and keep them open. 544 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 3: If your mouth is open a tiny bit and your 545 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 3: tongue is down, and when you start to water and 546 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 3: fight through it, you think about there you go, mouth 547 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 3: open exactly a little bit. You did it so well. 548 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 3: You can try. You can do it. No, you just 549 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 3: did it. We're talking about nobody can do it like you. Well, 550 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 3: this was true, but you did it pretty well. 551 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: No. 552 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 3: Isaac, my little my son on Raven's home. He asked 553 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 3: me that question. I was like, you gotta do it. 554 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 3: So I love this boy. Guy. He's a grown ass man. Sorry, 555 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 3: I love this dude. He the way you described him 556 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 3: was like he was a four year old. I know 557 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 3: because I knew him when he was twelve and I 558 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 3: was eighteen. He's like a sexy boy, can't handle It's weird, 559 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 3: but he has a music career and you go check 560 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 3: it out. He asked me how do you do it? 561 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 3: I was like, haha, I'm not gonna tell you. I'm 562 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 3: not gonna tell you how you do it. And during 563 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 3: the season we would have vision offs like who could 564 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 3: last longest without blinking and I always won. Yeah, course always. 565 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 3: He always I'm like, you blinked because like I can't 566 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 3: do it. I said, I have a fop. You got 567 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 3: the visions you can't blink. Oh my god. I had 568 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 3: so much fun with him. 569 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: Well, the vision I had you were speaking was that 570 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: that is what made you so funny on that so raven. 571 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: It wasn't like you were playing this character. It was 572 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: like you were the next generation. You had inherited this 573 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: gift from people like Whoopee and Jim Carrey and Robin Williams. 574 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: There are very few people carrying that torch now. 575 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 3: I think Michael Michelle Harris will be able to do it. 576 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 3: And I think that as we continue to look for 577 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 3: talent in the younger community and I'm there to help 578 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 3: them through it, I think we can do that. I mean, listen, 579 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 3: when I go through a boot camp with any of 580 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 3: my kids from any of my shows, the first thing 581 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 3: I do is say, you better get nick ad night 582 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 3: because I'm gonna make you watch everything. And I always 583 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 3: ask in an audition what television shows do you watch? 584 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 3: And when they go to two thousands comedy and say, 585 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 3: oh my god, I go mmm, okay, I'm gonna take 586 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 3: you back to the fifties. I'm gonna take you back 587 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 3: a little bit further. Just suck it up, and I 588 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 3: need you to watch and see the difference. When they 589 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 3: see the difference, they go, oh, there was something grounded 590 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 3: about those characters, like they weren't acting. But I really 591 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 3: do request strongly that anybody who works with me goes 592 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 3: and watches what I watch, because I also need to reference, 593 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,719 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like if we're doing something 594 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 3: and I don't know how to give a direction, I'm like, 595 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 3: did you watch the Jimmy Fox show? Okay, now I 596 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 3: need that character and this we're oh got it? Did 597 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 3: you watch Martin? You didn't, you're too young. That's okay, 598 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 3: go to Jimmy Fox. Here we go. But you need 599 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 3: those things to pull from. It's an encyclopedia. And I 600 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 3: think with comedy, you have to learn from your ancestors, 601 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 3: and you have to learn George Carlin, even Warren Hutcherson, 602 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 3: Like he's a writer that worked on Raven's Home, but 603 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 3: he was also a fantastic stand up comedian that I 604 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 3: used to watch, and so when he came on the 605 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 3: show to write, I was like, I'm. 606 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: Sorry who taught you that? 607 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 3: Like, how are you such a student of the game? 608 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 3: My parents, I wasn't allowed to watch certain television. I 609 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 3: was only allowed to watch Nick at night and classics. 610 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 3: This is why whoopee said you were an old soul 611 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 3: and a young body. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. 612 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 2: We need to take another quick break, but we'll be 613 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 2: right back to our conversation with Raven's don't go anywhere, 614 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 2: and we're back with Raven Simone. So, now that you 615 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 2: are at this creative helm and you have the ability 616 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 2: to direct and produce, what does a Raven Simone set 617 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: feel like? What have you made a point to do 618 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 2: on your set that comes from your own experience as 619 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 2: a child actor? 620 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, Well, how am I gonna say this 621 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 3: without sounding absolutely tyrantal? Like a tyrant, I like things 622 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 3: to be done quickly, efficiently and move on. I don't 623 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 3: like to belabor situation. So a rehearsal day for me 624 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 3: every actor, no matter what age. If you're under the 625 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 3: age of eighteen, your parent is on set and I'm 626 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 3: giving parents the notes as well as the kid, and 627 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 3: I require you to have a script at all time. 628 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 3: So there are certain things that I just don't budge on. 629 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 3: I require you to have your script. I require you 630 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 3: to read the stage directions, so that if I don't 631 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 3: tell you to move to the left because it's in 632 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 3: the stage directions, you should be doing it anyway because 633 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 3: it's there unless I tell you differently. I'm also one 634 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 3: to have fun after we get our work done, and 635 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 3: if we're doing so well because people are on their game, 636 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 3: we'll have fun during I don't rehearse a lot. I'll 637 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 3: do one or two takes for rehearsal and move on 638 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 3: to the next one, no matter what stage of professionalism 639 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 3: you're at, because I do believe that comedy is better fresh. 640 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 3: I believe that if you belabor it, it becomes spoiled. 641 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 3: People start overacting and it's dangerous. And you can tell 642 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 3: when it comes to tape day. After three days of rehearsal, 643 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 3: everybody's like, can they do this? They did it and 644 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 3: run through. I said, yeah, that was the first day. 645 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 3: It was hilarious, and now we've noted them eighteen times 646 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 3: and it's not going to work anymore. Tape day is 647 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 3: a little interesting. I tell my kids all the time. 648 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 3: I'm like, I love you guys. We had Monday to 649 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 3: Wednesday together. Just because I'm not talking to you like 650 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 3: I did on rehearsal day doesn't mean that I don't 651 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 3: love you. Have to change my brain into cameraman, set 652 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 3: deck and all these modes. Now, so you guys huddle together. 653 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 3: You've created your community. You guys can handle yourself. I 654 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 3: know you can. And then I start dealing with all 655 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 3: the adults who have their notes and studio and to 656 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 3: make sure that that's good and that to find that 657 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 3: balance between the two, I let them speak. But then 658 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 3: one of the things that I remember when I was 659 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 3: a kid, after you did a take, it took forever 660 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 3: for the director to come over because he was taking 661 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 3: so many notes from so many people. I have a 662 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 3: wonderful dialogue coach that stands with me. I say, hey, 663 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 3: any camera things, tell me, tell the acting to the 664 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,479 Speaker 3: dialogue coach, so I can go over there and make 665 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 3: sure that these kids. 666 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 2: No. 667 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 3: Just because I'm taking a long time doesn't mean anything, 668 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 3: because the longer it takes, the more notes you have. 669 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 3: But if you're just left on set and you haven't 670 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 3: been through as many shows as I have, you'd be like, 671 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 3: oh my god, what happened you're gonna start getting anxious. 672 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 3: So I try to get over to the kids as 673 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 3: much as possible. And I like to get out early honemyes. 674 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 3: I like an hour lunch. I like to beat the clock. 675 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 3: I do not like to be at their I don't 676 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 3: like to be on set all day. I love working 677 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,439 Speaker 3: you guys, it's fantastic. You know what else? I love 678 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 3: going home. There's some people I feel like they belabor 679 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 3: work because they don't want. 680 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: To go home. 681 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 2: Yes, you're basically every studio's dream, I mean my dream, right. 682 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: They're thinking an excellent person, Sign me up? I really 683 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,439 Speaker 1: do you guys? Don't you want to go home? 684 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 2: Yes? 685 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 3: And I tell my guys that all the camera men, 686 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 3: I'm like, listen, fellas, Yes, show me what shot I need. 687 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 3: If it's better than mine, I'm taking it. Let's go. 688 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 3: Let's go. 689 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 1: We move on. 690 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 3: It's done well. And write well, and writing I'm not 691 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 3: always going to be right, and I'm definitely not always 692 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 3: well in the brain. So help me out here, I mean, 693 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 3: help me out. That's my life. Okay, Oh my goodness, 694 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 3: she's holding the table. 695 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: Spoke to some friends at ABC. Oh no, and they 696 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: told me that I had to ask you about Cheetah 697 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: Girls for really what they say they said, it's there's 698 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 1: been talks, there's been rumors, there's been rumblings in the hallways. 699 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: Really have any of those come to you? No? 700 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 3: Really, Oh, it's coming, it's common. 701 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: Really, you don't have to tell me yes or no. 702 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: Can you just tell me what city it's going to 703 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: be in. We might be very excited, We might be, 704 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: we might not. 705 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 3: There's so many things on the horizon with the Disney channel, 706 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 3: let alone Disney brand of television. Yea that everything is 707 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 3: up for grabs. And I think we're in a time 708 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,919 Speaker 3: period and a time period in our society, in the 709 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 3: resurgence of nostalgia that I think that would be a 710 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 3: fantastic idea. I do too. What would it look like 711 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 3: to you? Like, what would your dream Cheetah reunion look like? 712 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: First of all, we're Cheetah girls Cheatah sisters. So the 713 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: sisterhood's really important to me. Okay, I feel like there 714 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: was one Cheetah girl that nobody liked and so we 715 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: need to replace her. So there really is a sisterhood. 716 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 3: Wow, hot, no bad apples, no bad apples. 717 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,439 Speaker 1: No, this is like if we're gonna have a set 718 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: that's well and right. Yeah, we need everyone to be kind. 719 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: I agree. And then I love seeing a new city 720 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: through your eyes. Okay, so whichever city you guys choose, 721 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: I'll be hyped for lovely. 722 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 3: Here are my notes, Okay, here my names them. 723 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 2: I want it to be real, like I want it 724 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 2: to be honest about what's transpired between. 725 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 3: The two in real life or in like. 726 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 2: No, just for the characters, okay, you know, like I 727 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 2: think us as millennials who grew up with these characters, 728 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 2: we're gonna appreciate that because we've all been through some 729 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 2: ship between the last one and now, so I'd appreciate that. 730 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 3: Honestly. 731 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: We'll take you Cheetah fans who haven't grown up on them. 732 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 3: They can. They could get hilarious. Did you keep any 733 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 3: wardrobe items from the set from Cheetah? Yeah, no, I 734 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 3: kept it. I kept a lot of stuff from that's 735 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 3: raven though. Okay. The group of women that were raised 736 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 3: on Cheetahs are so special and beautiful and colorful and excited. 737 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 3: And the boys that were raised on Cheetahs, Honey, let 738 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 3: me talk about a Cheetah boy. 739 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 2: Cheetah Brothers, the Cheetah Brothers don't play around. 740 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 3: The strut is real. So yeah, we'll see what happens. 741 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 3: I'll let you guys know. Hey, if it comes up, 742 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 3: I'll come back. Thank you. Cool. Cool. 743 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,240 Speaker 1: I I just think like after Spice Girls, we didn't 744 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 1: have like Destiny's Child wasn't in that same arena. It 745 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: was gave us something else. Cheetah Girls gave us like 746 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 1: sisterhood to hold on to. So it was a special 747 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 1: pop music. 748 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I was like pop. I always said, 749 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 3: if there was a cheatera reunion, I need like a 750 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 3: rapper Cheetah yah. I need a Cheetah emc. 751 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: Yes, we need a left eye. 752 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:59,479 Speaker 3: Lisa cheat a left eye, Lisa cheatah Cheatah. I'm down 753 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 3: for Alisa Jetah. 754 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 2: So much fun to say, almost as fun ask have 755 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 2: to be. 756 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 3: Have you seen Girls five ever? Because no, but I 757 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 3: heard it was amazing. 758 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so much of that that reminds me of like, yes, 759 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 2: that's quite a fair. 760 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, we actually have to talk about why you're here 761 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 1: before you leave. I got really sidetrap. 762 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,760 Speaker 3: Oh my god, hilarious. I am here for a reason. 763 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:30,919 Speaker 3: Every you're on your game show hosting era. 764 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: You're hosting the all new game show Scrabble for the CW. 765 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Raven, you could sign on to so 766 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: many things. I know you're very particular. Why did Scrabble 767 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: get you hype? 768 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 3: Scrabble got me hype because I love game? You do, 769 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 3: Oh I love a game? During Raven's home yeah. To 770 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 3: keep all of us busy, including me, I would bring 771 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 3: games on set. We created games to keep filming interesting. 772 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 3: I played Boggle, I play Scrabble, I play Sequence, I 773 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 3: play poker. I play all of the card games, all 774 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 3: the games I got asked to play scrabble. And I 775 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 3: never thought that I would ever host a game show. 776 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 3: That was never even came through my brain for a 777 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 3: while because the weakest link, before the weakest link, there 778 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 3: was only one other female game show host, and barely 779 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 3: call that a game show never really was in my peripheral. 780 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 3: And then when I saw ke Ky, I was like, 781 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 3: oh yeah, a game show still didn't hit me as 782 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 3: if I should do one. And then the executive producer 783 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 3: from twenty five wards or less said he put my 784 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 3: name in the hat for a host of Scrabble, and 785 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 3: I was like, what wou'd you do? 786 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: Sir? 787 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 3: There's no I really think you can do it. I'm like, no, 788 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 3: I can't, sir. I'm gonna I'm gonna fangirl out on 789 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 3: you right now. Start crying. You guys, I've really been 790 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 3: in my crying era, and we're not gonna talk about it, babes. 791 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 3: I don't like to show that side of me. 792 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,320 Speaker 1: Anyway. I was gonna say, you didn't cry on this show. 793 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 3: So much, but they told me about it, you guys. 794 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 3: When I talk about research, I went down the rabbit 795 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 3: hole of game shows. I refused to walk on that 796 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 3: set and not know the Dick Clark specialties, the Steve 797 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 3: Harvey specialties, the Bob Barker specialties, all the old school 798 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 3: even like, oh my God, all the other ones that I 799 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,720 Speaker 3: used to watch. I wanted to make sure because rarely 800 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 3: do you get a person of color female to do 801 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 3: service to a game show. That part, and I also 802 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 3: have been in the industry for thirty seven years, and 803 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 3: I felt like it was the universe saying, hey, go 804 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 3: get them, Tiger, you paid your dues, go get a 805 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 3: game show like I want this to go forever and 806 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 3: evil and evil. It was the best experience of my 807 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 3: adult life. Wow. I got to do a whole season 808 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 3: in a matter of a week. But to be able 809 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 3: to stand up there and just like talk like I 810 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 3: am with you guys, but then sometimes go and read 811 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 3: my prompter, make sure I'm on, get to interact with 812 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 3: people and not have to say oh s and P 813 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 3: is gonna be mad at me here, you know what 814 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 3: I mean, Like I don't have to be a kid, 815 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 3: I can be myself. It's been an absolute pleasure and 816 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 3: I feel lighter. Like you talk about earlier that my 817 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 3: wife helped me put a smile on my face. This 818 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 3: show has done the same thing for me when it 819 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 3: comes to my face on screen. Because honestly, honey, before this, 820 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm out. I'm not about to be acting. 821 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,280 Speaker 3: I'm not doing any of this. I'm going to direct 822 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 3: and produce and if you pay me, I'll come on. 823 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:31,399 Speaker 3: But I was like, you don't even have to pay 824 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 3: me to host this. But at the same like, I 825 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 3: love this game. You can get it on the CW 826 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 3: app the night after if you want, but watching it live, 827 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 3: playing with friends and family, it's one of those game 828 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 3: shows you yell at like family few that you know 829 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,399 Speaker 3: what I mean. So it's it's an absolute pleasure. Yes, 830 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,839 Speaker 3: don't tell me it's over. Say we don't want to 831 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 3: be late for your next But. 832 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,359 Speaker 1: You know what, Whoopy always says this on the view, 833 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: you gotta come back, you come back. 834 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm gonna come back for the book. I'm gonna 835 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 3: come back. If there's a reunion and you guys have 836 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 3: to come and meet my wife on our podcast, we 837 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 3: would love to have you. 838 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: Oh my dad, It'll be so cute, it would be 839 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: so excited. 840 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 3: Done it, babes, you heard it, you heard it. It'll 841 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 3: be thank you, thank you, and thank you. 842 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 2: Raven Simone is an Emmy Award winning actor, singer, producer, director, 843 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 2: and the host of Scrabble, which airs Thursdays on the CW. 844 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: Listen and follow The bright Side on the iHeartRadio app, 845 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The bright 846 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 1: Side is a production of Hello Sunshine and iHeart Podcasts 847 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: and is executive produced by Reese Witherspoon. 848 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 2: Production by Arcana Audio. Our producers are Jessica Wank, Krista Ripple, 849 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 2: and Amy Padula. Our senior producers It's I Kin Tania, 850 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 2: and our engineer is PJ. 851 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 3: Shahamat. 852 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 1: Arcana's executive producers are Francis Harlowe and Abby Ruska. 853 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,240 Speaker 3: Arcana's head of production is Matt Schultz. 854 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 2: Natalie Tulluck and Maureen Polo are the executive producers for 855 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 2: Hello Sunshine. 856 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: Julia Weaver is the supervising producer, and Ali Perry is 857 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 1: the executive producer for iHeart Podcasts. Tim Palazzola is our showrunner. 858 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: This week's episodes were recorded by Graham Gibson and Joel Morales. 859 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 2: Our theme song is by Anna Stump and Hamilton Lighthouser. 860 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 1: Special thanks to Connell Byrne and Will Pearson. 861 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 2: I'm Simone Boyce. You can find me at Simone Boyce 862 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 2: on Instagram and TikTok. 863 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: And I'm Danielle Robe on Instagram and TikTok. 864 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 3: That's ro b a y. 865 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 2: We'll see you Monday, y'all keep looking on the bright side.