1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: First Date follow up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: online at Advocates Law dot com. 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 2: Ken is on the phone today for a first day 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by Jamie and he 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: has no idea why. So we'll see if we can 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: figure it out for him in a second. But first, Ken, 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 2: how long has it been since you heard from Jamie? 8 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 3: Uh? 9 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 4: It's been about two weeks. 10 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 5: Okay, Well let's hear about it. How did you meet Jamie? 11 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 5: How is the date? What's going on? 12 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 4: So? Yeah, so we met at a concert. You know, 13 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 4: it was like a real small venue and we were 14 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 4: both kind of at the back, kind of away from 15 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 4: the crowd, so it felt like a good time to 16 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 4: strike up a conversation. So we did. We talked back 17 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 4: and forth, you know, we were both dig in the concert, 18 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 4: and then as things started to wind down, I was like, screw, I'll. 19 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 3: Just ask her out. 20 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 6: Good for you. 21 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. I was like, well, we're in person, let's actually 22 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 4: do what people used to do and talk to each other. 23 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 3: So she agreed, and she, you know, she. 24 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 7: Said something like I don't know, I was awkward but 25 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 7: too cute to say no to, which was fine with me. 26 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 7: So I text her the next day, see, you know, 27 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 7: are you still down to do this? And she seems 28 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 7: really excited about it, so I was like, okay, great, 29 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 7: so far, so good. 30 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 4: Okay, So then I take her out. I took her 31 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 4: to this restaurant. It's kind of my secret gem. I 32 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 4: don't go there often, but when it's you know, someone, 33 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 4: I think I want to kind of you know, start 34 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 4: them off write with. So go to this place and 35 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 4: we just chat about the concert, we get to know 36 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 4: each other, ask her about like other music she's into, 37 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 4: and again everything's going well. She starts talking about you know, 38 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 4: she's done well, we've all done you know, the and 39 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 4: on the apps. Just trying to date around but it's hard, right, 40 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 4: and she was like, you know, I don't know. I 41 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 4: want to take it slow. And she said something like 42 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 4: she was deliberate about who she wants to go out with, 43 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 4: which I was a little like what does that mean? 44 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 4: But then I'm like, well, you're out with me, it 45 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 4: must mean that you like me. So again, everything's going 46 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 4: well up to this point. So I take this to 47 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 4: the compliment she enjoys being with me. I tell the 48 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 4: kind of the same thing. I just I'm looking for 49 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 4: something normal in my life right now, right, nothing too hectic, 50 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 4: but just something consistent. A cool girl. So after dinner 51 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 4: we talk a bit more. There's actually this park across 52 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 4: the street from the restaurant and on the way kind 53 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 4: of we're going to part ways. We just sat on 54 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 4: this bench and we ended up talking to like a 55 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 4: long time and I was like, this is this is 56 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 4: so rare, Like no one spends this much time together 57 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 4: with someone you don't know that cool. Right. It was 58 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 4: one of those things you see on like a rom 59 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 4: com of like this is this is means it's going well. 60 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 4: And so you know, it's getting late, and I knew 61 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 4: she had taken an uber there and she was going 62 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 4: to take one back home. So I'm like I didn't 63 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 4: want to be too forward, too creepy, but I was like, look, 64 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 4: if you want, I can easily you a lift home. 65 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 4: And I didn't want to push anything, but she felt 66 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 4: comfortable and she was like yeah, absolutely, So again drove 67 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 4: her home. This is all going well. Again, I'm trying 68 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 4: to be easy going about this, not push anything, but 69 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, we get to her house, I'm like, 70 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 4: this has gone real. Well, can I walk you to 71 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 4: your door, she says, great. So again I'm feeling good 72 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 4: and I was going to go into the kiss, but 73 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 4: I was like, this has gone well. I don't want 74 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:28,839 Speaker 4: to push this thing. 75 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 3: I assume there's. 76 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 4: Going to be another date. So I go for the 77 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 4: hug instead. Okay, right, which seems like the normal thing 78 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 4: to do, right, I'm not going for a handshake. 79 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 5: A good call there. 80 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, And so this is where I'm like, if there 81 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 4: was a problem, it was probably this. I go to 82 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 4: give her the hug and I just kind of trip 83 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 4: over her like doormat and I kind of like fall 84 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 4: into her and I knock her against her own door. 85 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 4: Who but like she knew that it was an accident, right, 86 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 4: And I'm like, I'm apologizing profusely. I'm telling her it's 87 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 4: just I just was clumsy. I was nervous and it 88 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 4: needs that to happen. And she was like, it's fine. 89 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 6: It's fine, you're nervous. 90 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: You're like, I don't want to go for a kiss. Yeah, 91 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: I'll go for a hug exause I'm just going to pounce. 92 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 4: On it right now, exactly right. If someone was watching this, 93 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 4: it would look creepy. But it was a total accident. 94 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 4: And so anyway, she offers me to do like a 95 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 4: proper hug. So I'm like, okay, good things are calmed down. 96 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 4: She's she believes me. Then I'm like, hey, can I 97 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 4: text you later? And she said yeah, absolutely, So I 98 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 4: went back home and I text her. No response, and 99 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 4: that was almost two weeks ago. 100 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 6: Okay, wow, wow, Well we'll try to figure it out 101 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 6: for you. 102 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: Play a song and then come back and call her 103 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 2: and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting you 104 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 2: and maybe get you another day if you still want them. Okay, 105 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 2: maybe she has, Yeah, plas, I'll come back. 106 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 6: I get your first Day follow Up, Next First. 107 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys online 108 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: at advocatesla dot com. 109 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: If you're just joining us for today's First Day follow up. 110 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: Ken is on the phone and he's getting ghosted by Jamie. 111 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 2: We're about to call her and see if she'll tell 112 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him another 113 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 2: date if he still wants one. But before we do that, 114 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: why don't you catch everybody up on your date with Jamie. 115 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:22,679 Speaker 6: Ken. 116 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, so met Jamie out at a concert. We kind 117 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 4: of hit it off, asked her, if I could call her. 118 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 4: We set up a date, went out to dinner. It 119 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 4: was real good. Kind of spent the whole night connecting, talking, 120 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 4: ended up driving her home, went in for a hug. 121 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 4: The only thing I can think here that went wrong 122 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 4: is I did bump into her. I tricked on her doormat. 123 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 4: I kind of fell onto her in her door. But 124 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 4: we ended off with a hug and then I reached 125 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 4: out to her. 126 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 3: Haven't heard from like nine days? 127 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 6: Okay, all right, man, were you ready to call her? 128 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: Yeah? 129 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 4: Please? 130 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 6: Okay, here we go. Hello, Hi, man, I speak to Jamie. Please. 131 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 132 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 6: This is Jamie Jamie. How are you. My name is 133 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 6: Jubal and I host a radio show. It's called The 134 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 6: Jebel Show. 135 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 5: Hi, Jamie. I'm Nina on the show too. Hi, and 136 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 5: I'm Victoria. What's up, Jamie? 137 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 3: I'm sorry? Why are you calling? 138 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 6: Do you listen to the show at all? Ever? 139 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 4: Oh? 140 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I have, but I. 141 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 6: Highly recommend it. 142 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 143 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 2: The reason that we're calling is we do a segment 144 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: on the show called the First Dight follow Up. That's 145 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 2: where if you go on a date with somebody and 146 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: then you end up ghosting them, that person can email 147 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: us to get you on the phone and ask why 148 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: you're ghosting them. So we got an email about you. 149 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, I mean I think I know where 150 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 3: this is going. Okay, I know who emailed you. 151 00:06:58,040 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 6: Who do you think it is. 152 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 3: I'm going to say it's Ken. 153 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 6: You are correct, Yes it is. 154 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: Ken emailed us and said that he really liked you 155 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: a lot, but he doesn't know why you're ghosting him. 156 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 3: Oh, this is this is awkward. 157 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 6: Can you tell Do you mind telling us? He really 158 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 6: wants to know. 159 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess. I mean we we had a really 160 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: nice date and Ken is like he's a goofball. He's awkward, 161 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 3: but he has so much going for him and he 162 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 3: has a wonderful personality. And I think I spent the 163 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: longest time on that date, Like the night just flew by. Yeah, 164 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: I guess it was just the end of the day. 165 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 3: That was That was really a bummer for me. What happened. 166 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 3: He came to my door, you know, he was he 167 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 3: was dropping me off, and you know, he was so 168 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 3: sweet and he gave me a hug, but unfortunately he 169 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 3: knocked me into my door. I got a giant black eye. 170 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 6: Oh he told us about that, Like. 171 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, he tripped into me, and yeah, my face hit 172 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 3: the door and it hit pretty good. Like I tried 173 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 3: to play it off, I was just so much pain. 174 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: I was like trying to just you know, give him 175 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 3: a hug, kind of get him out of there. But 176 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: when I got inside, I like my face was burning. 177 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 4: It was. 178 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 3: It was the worst sensation ever. And literally an hour 179 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 3: later my face turned bruised. Yeah, I mean it stuck too, because, 180 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: like I get, these things happened, but I had worked 181 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 3: the next day, and I had such an important meeting, 182 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 3: and so I had to put so much concealer on 183 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: my face in order to just even look decent in 184 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: front of people. 185 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 4: Guys. 186 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Hi, Hey, Jamie Ken Jamie. 187 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 4: I had no idea. I'm so sorry. It was a 188 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 4: complete accident. I can't believe that it got that bad. 189 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. I know, I understand. I really appreciate 190 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: the apology. It's just like it was not what I 191 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 3: needed at that time. Really, it was with the worst 192 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 3: timing for it. 193 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 4: Look, I am so sorry that you had to deal 194 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 4: with that, you know, but it was totally an accident. 195 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 4: You know, I thought maybe you would at least give 196 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 4: me a quality had a good time. 197 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 3: Oh, look, I understand it was an accident. I get that. 198 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 3: I was just in so much shock about everything that 199 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 3: had happened, and then I had like immense pain and 200 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 3: then and I was saying, like, oh, we should have 201 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 3: work the next day. He had so many things in 202 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 3: my head and just made me really angry, A. 203 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 5: Fair emotion I feel in the moment. 204 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 4: Oh, i'd be pissed too, Like I man, I'm just smedia. 205 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 4: I can't believe. 206 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 6: That, Jamie. Do you like going out with Ken though? 207 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: Right? 208 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 6: Other than that, I. 209 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 3: Mean, yeah, it was a good time. And I was 210 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 3: just really angry at the time about you know, work 211 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 3: and what I had going on personally, that I took 212 00:09:55,040 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 3: it out on him, so well, yeah, I mean I 213 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: typically don't do that, Like I would tell somebody why 214 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 3: I'm not talking to them anymore. But I couldn't. I 215 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 3: had so much on my mind. But I look, I 216 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 3: owe him a black guy. He's not gonna get away with. 217 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 4: It, Jamie. If you agree to go out again, then 218 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 4: you can knock me over as many times as you like. 219 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: Oh all right, well, Jamie, would you like to go 220 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: out with Ken Agan? We'll pay for it. 221 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Ken, you're on like you're gonna have 222 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 3: a worse black guy than me, but you'll have fun. 223 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 5: Yeah either way. 224 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 2: Congratulations, Ken, you got another data or at least you've 225 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: got your beat. 226 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 6: I have no idea. 227 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 4: Thank you guys so much, Jamie, this is great. 228 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: Jubile's first Date follow up powered by the Advocates Injury 229 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: Attorney online at advocates Law dot com.