1 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: And welcome in. Lay Cake is live. 2 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: It is Sunday night, January seventeenth, the year of Our Lord, 3 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. I'm looking at the live chat and 4 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: Brayden Insane just suggested that begging for likes is the 5 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: cowards way out. Well, you can consider me curled up 6 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: in the fetal position in the corner right here, because 7 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 2: I am begging you, pleading with you. Please like the 8 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: video and subscribe to the twenty four seven Suports YouTube 9 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 2: channel if you haven't already, and find the podcast. And again, 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: I want to reiterate and I want to emphasize I 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 2: am begging you to do that. Thank you in advance. 12 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: We got a jam packed show tonight. I have been 13 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: made aware of the fact that I teased something last 14 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: Sunday or maybe the Thursday before that we were going to. 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: Do and we just never did it. 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: I mean that we had some stuff happened, we had 17 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: some breaking news, and so it just kind of got 18 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: pushed down the road. Luckily, it's evergreen, which is a 19 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: written really really it's a not so fancy industry way 20 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: of saying it's still relevant today. So I'm gonna lead 21 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: the show with that tonight and it's fun, it's entertaining 22 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 2: for all unless you were one of the unfortunate few 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: who made these predictions. We're not gonna mention anyone by name, 24 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: and that's not how we roll around here. I'm also back, 25 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: by popular demand, reinstituting the mood Tracker tonight and we're 26 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: gonna hit three programs and over the course of the 27 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: next month and a half or so, hopefully leading up 28 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: to spring football, we're going to be doing the mood 29 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: Tracker and we're gonna be hitting a lot of programs. 30 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: Now, there are some programs that I'm gonna hit then. 31 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: I'm just kind of trying to pump the brakes on 32 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 2: right now because there's still a lot happening. I e. Texas. 33 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: I'd love to get a full coaching staff out there 34 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: before we hit the mood tracker. Oregon love to get 35 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: a defensive coordinator in place before we do the mood tracker. 36 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: Speaking of which, we're watching that Oregon defensive coordinator situation. 37 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: Nothing yet as of the last hour, nothing happened in 38 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator search at LSU, so we're still keeping 39 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: on that. 40 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: A lot of coaching change is still happening. 41 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: We kind of started to hint to you in November 42 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: the coaching search calendar that whole deal was going to 43 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 2: be pushed well into twenty twenty one. And it's happening. 44 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: And also, you know, if you were to place bets 45 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 2: the other night, I could have sworn to you that 46 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 2: we were going to be leading the show tonight with Tennessee. 47 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I was certain that we would at least 48 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: have heard something regarding Jeremy Pruett that had changed from 49 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: last Thursday to today. Well, we haven't heard anything very fluid, 50 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: very fluid. That's why we director Colin and I were 51 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 2: kind of having to do the outline of the show 52 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: not in pen which some of you claim I never 53 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: used during the show. It's just a prop, but I 54 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: do use it. 55 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: Not in pen though. 56 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: We're planning the shows in very light pencil so that 57 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: we can erase in a moment's notice. 58 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: And so I think we got a really good show tonight. 59 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: It certainly does fit the parameters of being jam packed. 60 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 2: So let's dive in. Shall we appreciate you watching? Don't 61 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 2: doubt Nick Saban. Now that's my general rule of thumb 62 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: when we have our zoom consultation sessions and people are 63 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: looking to break into the business. One of the main 64 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: rules I give you is just don't doubt Nick Saban. 65 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: It's one of the easiest lessons that I've learned in 66 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,839 Speaker 2: my career in sports media. Don't get proven wrong by 67 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: his success. That's been my philosophy anytime you cover Alabama 68 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: and cover college football in general, don't get proven wrong 69 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 2: by one of the greatest of all time succeeding. If 70 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: you predict him to succeed and he fails every now 71 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: and then, that's great. But don't try and be the 72 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: guy who sits there in Mobile and predicts it's gonna 73 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: snow every day, or lives in Tallahassee and predicts it's 74 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: gonna snow every day. Yeah, I mean it has happened before, 75 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: so eventually it will snow and Mobile. Eventually you get 76 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: a little trace once every decade in Tallahassee. But by 77 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: and large, and Ain's snowing there By and large, Nick 78 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: Saban's not losing a whole lot now, Alabama's not falling off. 79 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: And here's a true story. 80 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: So I started doing sports talk radio in Columbus, Georgia 81 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: back after like the twenty ten, going into the twenty 82 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: eleven season, and I've tracked all my picks. I'm not 83 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: gonna bore you with those, but I go back and 84 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: I look at my Alabama log, and twice since two thousand, 85 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: I don't think i've told you this colin. Twice since 86 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: twenty eleven, i've predicted Alabama to lose football game, and 87 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: I'm two and oh. I haven't predicted all their losses, 88 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: but I'm two and oh on predicting losses. One of 89 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: them was actually when they were a fourteen point favorite. 90 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: It was when they played Menzel and Tuscaloosa in twenty twelve. 91 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 2: They went on to win the championship that year, but 92 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 2: they lost. It was the week after a brutal LSU game. 93 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 2: Manziel and A and M were surging, and so you 94 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 2: remember that game. And then last year's Iron Bowl that 95 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 2: was Mac Jones stepping in for an injury to a 96 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: tongue of Iloa. Bama's only favored by three in that game. 97 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 2: Those are the only two games I've predicted them to 98 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 2: lose in the last decade, So I don't pick against 99 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 2: them very often. So how many of these traps have 100 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: you fallen into? Let me just ask whether you work 101 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: in this industry, whether you're just a fan, everyone has 102 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: their opinion. Everyone makes predictions, either publicly or privately amongst yourselves. 103 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 2: Tell me how many of these traps you've fallen into 104 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 2: over the years. Because I had someone suggests to me 105 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 2: after the National Championship game, this last one that they won, 106 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: look at how many people have predicted the demise of 107 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: Alabama football over the years. And really, what it is 108 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: is not a whole lot of people have done it. 109 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: It's just when anyone does predict it, it gets shouted 110 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 2: into ten different megaphones and everyone puts it on the 111 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 2: front page of their website. We do it at twenty 112 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: four to seven Sports too, because it gets a lot 113 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 2: of attention. Sometimes it's intellectually bankrupt because people are saying 114 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: it strictly to get attention. But I do wholeheartedly believe 115 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 2: that a lot of these opinions that have been offered 116 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: people really do believe them. They're just dead wrong about them. 117 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 2: So tell me how many of these traps you've fallen into. 118 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: The first trap was a little while ago. It was 119 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: when a couple of mobile quarterbacks made Nick Saban's defense 120 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: look foolish. Spoiler alert, They made the entire sport look foolish. 121 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 2: Johnny Manziel was one of them. Nick Marshall the following 122 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: year in twenty thirteen with Auburn, that was the eventual 123 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 2: kick six game. 124 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: Like Alabama lost there. 125 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 2: And then a couple of years later, Chad Kelly and 126 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 2: ol Miss they came into Tuscaloosa and beat Alabama. And 127 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 2: that was the second year in a row Ole Miss 128 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: had beat Alabama. And remember it was kind of a 129 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: mixture of the hurry up, no huddle mobile quarterbacks, the 130 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: infusion of RPO offenses. That was what was going to 131 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: spell the demise cause it had neutralized what Alabama's specialty was, 132 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: and that was size and depth and physicality Defensively, the 133 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 2: games changed. Nick Saban back in two thousand and nine, 134 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: he won a national championship this way, Hey, look around, 135 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: doesn't look like he's going to be able to do 136 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: it that way anymore. Well, the problem here, friends, is 137 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: that two of the years I just mentioned, keep in mind, 138 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: the entire context is, oh, this is going to be 139 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 2: the downfall of Alabama. They won the title two of 140 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: those years. The Johnny Manziel year they won the title, 141 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: the Chad Kelly Ole Miss year they won the title. 142 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 2: There was no downfall, there was no demise. 143 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: Now I'll grant. 144 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: You that it had become really boring for some to 145 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: keep predicting Alabama to win, and so everyone was trying 146 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: to be the first they had. They wanted their voice 147 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: remembered as the first that predicted the downfall of Alabama. Well, 148 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: it was a trap. Hashtag it's a trap. What about 149 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: trap number two? Maybe you didn't fall into that one, 150 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 2: Maybe you did fall into this one. This one's more recent. 151 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: This is the one I was going to talk about 152 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: the other night. There's a big difference in a team 153 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: and a program. A team's just one year sample size. 154 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: A program is a three to four year given sample size. 155 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 2: Alabama versus Clemson, twenty eighteen National Championship Game, Santa Clara, California. 156 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: Alabama goes out there their favor they get steamroll, just 157 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: smoked forty four to sixteen. 158 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: I was there. 159 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: That was a boring night, let me tell you. So afterwards, 160 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: there's a lot of talk and this was overwhelming. 161 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: There was a lot. I would say a majority of. 162 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: The headlines I saw after this game had to do 163 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: with something along lines of there being a new number 164 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: one coach in college football and or there being a 165 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: new number one program in college football. Now, I thought 166 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: that was sort of laughable. At the time, I wasn't 167 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: really vocal about it. I talked about it on the 168 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: show where we were just doing it locally in Columbus 169 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: at the time. I talked about it at that point, 170 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: but I didn't want it to like I was some 171 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: Clemson hater or I wanted to reign on the parade 172 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: because they deserved. Clemson deserved all the accolades they were getting. 173 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: But what I didn't think anyone deserved was to be 174 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: touted as being a superior program at that point. 175 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: Alabama, anyone in the. 176 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: Sport deserved to be touted as a superior head coach 177 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: to Nick Saban only because they at Alabama were on 178 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: chapter twenty of their story. At Clemson, they were on 179 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: like chapter two of their story. So it's it's the 180 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: fact that Alabama was dealing with stuff at that point 181 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: in their kind of career arc of Nick Saban at 182 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 2: Alabama that you had no chance to have dealt with. 183 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: Yet you hadn't even had to deal with the consequences 184 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: of long term success. Clemson had already won a title, 185 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 2: and they already played for at that point three of them, 186 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: so they won two out of the first three. But yet, 187 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: when you look at already being a decade in and 188 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: a lot of the stuff that Nick Saban's dealt with 189 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: and where they are in their program's tenure versus where 190 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 2: you are, you haven't even had an opportunity to have 191 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 2: some of the problems some of the consequences of success 192 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 2: present themselves in your program, like. 193 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: He's had to deal with. 194 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: I mean, the internal dynamics on that Bama team in 195 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen sucked. 196 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: They were just bad. 197 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: They were still talented enough that they made it all 198 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: the way to the title game. You want to get 199 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: someone turned off at Alabama, ask him about some behind 200 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: the scenes stuff in twenty eighteen. So my point's not 201 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: to make an excuse. My point is that's a team 202 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: that just happened to make it to the title game. 203 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: There was a lot of transition going on behind the 204 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 2: scenes there. But my point is, now we get two 205 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 2: three years what is it two years? Yeah, so we 206 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: get two years now to look back and we look 207 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: at where the programs are. Clemson is still a very 208 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: good program, Alabama's still the best program in sport. They 209 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: never weren't the best program in the sport. Nick Saban's 210 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: still the number one coach in the sport. He never 211 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: wasn't the number one coach in the sport. It takes 212 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 2: a lot more to change my personal perception on a 213 00:09:55,840 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: program and a coach's stature than one season got told 214 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 2: a long time ago. Well, I guess I kind of 215 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: got told in another way, and I made up the analogy. 216 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 1: That's the way my mind works. 217 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: The difference between I've talked about this on the show before, 218 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 2: the difference between the speed of water and the speed 219 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: of honey. Now, you can change your opinion in a 220 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 2: season of a team week to week because you only 221 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: get twelve versions of them in a regular season. But 222 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: your opinion of a program, your opinion of a coach, 223 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 2: those don't need to move week to week. And so 224 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 2: I always make it analogous to putting a drop of 225 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: honey on one plate, drop of honey on one plate, 226 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: and then a drop of water on another plate, and 227 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: then turn those plate sideways, and it takes that honey 228 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: a long time to run off. Well, the water just 229 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: drips right off. Think Malcolm in Jurassic Park. Water just 230 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: drips right off, honey, doesn't That's how quick your opinion 231 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: of the stature of a coach or a program should move. 232 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: But because we needed some clicks out there, because we 233 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: needed to degenerate some attention, and because we just wanted 234 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: to sound like a genius and the smartest guy and 235 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 2: girl in the room, we said, Dablos, Winny is sur 236 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 2: passing Nick Sabing, Clemson has surpassed Alabama. We'll know it happened. 237 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: So that was trap number two. Now what about trap 238 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: number three? Trap number three is very recent? Trap number three. 239 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: We were already at twenty four to seven sports doing 240 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: this show by the time trapdoor number three open. 241 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 1: Director, Colin, do you. 242 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 2: Remember where you were February twenty fourth, twenty twenty one, 243 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: We were just about to start Late Kick. We were 244 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: in production meetings and we were putting the show together. 245 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: Colin and I probably did some dry runs that day. 246 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 2: But the next week we got hit by a tornado 247 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: and we started Late Kick. Fun diary entry. That was 248 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 2: when Scott Cochran left Alabama to go to Georgia. And 249 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: so this really put to the ultimate test how close 250 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 2: you were to the program. You got a lot of 251 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,119 Speaker 2: people that cover this sport from a fifty thousand foot perspective, 252 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 2: and they are not in the weeds. They are not 253 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: on message boards every day. They don't interact with the 254 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: college football public every day. 255 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: And if you're of that ilk. 256 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 2: Then you looked at this and this is where you 257 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: saw those headlines. Biggest blow to Nick Saban so far. 258 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: You know, he's got Jeff Allen, the trainer who's been 259 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: there since the beginning, and he had Scott Cochran, who 260 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:07,599 Speaker 2: had been there since the beginning, and the strength and 261 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 2: conditioning coach. A lot of people this is not a 262 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: knock on Cochran, it's a knock on anyone who thought this. 263 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 2: A lot of people thought Scott Cochrane was actually a 264 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 2: key ingredient in the secret sauce that made Alabama football 265 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: what it was, and that was never the case. He contributed, 266 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: just like any other person in the organization contributes. You 267 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: wouldn't be there if you weren't. But you know, since then, 268 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 2: you've learned, Nah man, it's Nick Saban. He can overturn 269 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 2: his entire staff and still win a title. But when 270 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: Cochran left, and this is only this is less than 271 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: a year ago, there were headlines out there. There were 272 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 2: very prominent, otherwise very sharp people who cover this sport 273 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 2: who looked and said, this is the biggest blow so 274 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: far that you've seen. This is the surest sign that 275 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 2: the foundation there is cracking. If you knew the behind 276 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 2: the scenes at Alabama, and granted not everyone does. I 277 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 2: get that it's a very hard place to get information 278 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,719 Speaker 2: out of. But if you well followed the day to 279 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: day at Alabama, then whereas a lot of other people 280 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: met that news with a yell, you met it with 281 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: a yawn because you knew changes were already coming anyway. 282 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: Nick Saban had not been happy with the strength and 283 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 2: conditioning process and results at Alabama for a couple of 284 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: years now, and he was already moving in a different direction. 285 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 2: I'm not telling you he was going to jettison Scott Cochran. 286 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,719 Speaker 2: Scott Cochran was still going to be there. There were 287 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: going to be personnel changes made already. 288 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: Now. 289 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: You also probably knew if you were close to the program, 290 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 2: you knew that Scott Cochran had tried to get an 291 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 2: on field job no less than twice in subsequent years 292 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 2: and was denied. 293 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: That's a guy who wanted an on field role. 294 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 2: He saw the industry, he saw the strength and conditioning 295 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 2: and sports science portions of this industry changing, and he 296 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 2: knew he did not specialize in the areas that this 297 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: sport is going towards. He knew that he's not stupid. 298 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: He knows good and well. So he wanted to get 299 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: himself a new role. He wanted to get an on 300 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 2: field special team's role. And so you know, it's kind 301 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 2: of mutual parting of ways. But Alabama looked as good 302 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 2: as they've ever looked this year from an injury standpoint. 303 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 2: They were as good as they've been in a long 304 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: time this year. Make no mistake about it. Not only 305 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: was it not a crack in the foundation, not only 306 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 2: was it the biggest blow that's. 307 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: Been dealt to Alabama since statement's been there. 308 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: It was a definitive upgrade. Just like we sat here 309 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: on the very first episode of Lake Kick and told 310 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: you it would be for Alabama. And for the record, 311 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: we also said it's going to be an upgrade for 312 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: Georgia too, and some people laughed at that. Well, I 313 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: haven't talked to those people in a while. However, I 314 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: think we've been pretty vindicated on that thought. So you 315 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: had trapdoor one, trapdoor two, trapdoor three. Don't fall down 316 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: any of those trap doors. I'm just telling you in 317 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: the future, if you're thinking about making a bold proclamation 318 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 2: about the downfall of Alabama football, don't just don't. That's 319 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: not a party worth trying to be the first person at. Meanwhile, 320 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: the mood Tracker is back. A lot of you have 321 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 2: asked for the mood tracker, and for obvious reasons, when 322 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: we got into bowl season, it didn't make sense to 323 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: start the mood food Tracker back at that point. So 324 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: I told you via private correspondence, I answer the dms, 325 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: I answer the emails, and so I said, just wait 326 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: to the end of the year. So some programs I 327 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: feel comfortable calling it a year on. Others are still 328 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 2: in transition coaching, transition and whatnot, so I'm not comfortable 329 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: there yet. Eventually we'll get around to all the big programs, 330 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: hopefully before spring starts. 331 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: We got a little time to do that. But the 332 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: mood Tracker. 333 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 2: For those of you who are new to the program 334 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: now a lot of you have joined in the last 335 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: few months. 336 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: What we do with the mood Tracker is we just kind. 337 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: Of try and take the middle eighty percent of the 338 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: fan base, and we try and gage the temperature. What 339 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: is the collective mood right now towards the program. So 340 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: the mood tracker starts with Ohio State this evening, and 341 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: the mood tracker for Ohio State right now. It's pretty 342 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: good time to be a Buckeye fan, even after last week. 343 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: It's kind of like the. 344 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 2: Rich kid at the carnival back in Columbus where I 345 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 2: grew up. Well, I grew up in Harris County, just 346 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: south of us in Columbus, Georgia, not Ohio. You'd have 347 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 2: the Greater Columbus Fare every year. So I grew up 348 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 2: with a group of kids. We would get taken to 349 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 2: the fair every year. There was one kid it was 350 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: a little more well off financially his family situation than 351 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 2: the rest of us. You got a certain amount of money, 352 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: and when you go, we go play the basketball games 353 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: where the rims are extra extra tight and extra extra small, 354 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: and it's really hard, and so most of us we 355 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 2: would just flame out and then we had to step 356 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: to the side. Well, your rich friend doesn't have to, 357 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: because your rich friend's parents just want to get him 358 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 2: out of the house and they sent him out with 359 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: no less than seventy five or a hundred bucks in 360 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: his pocket to spend at the carnival, and so he 361 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: just gets to keep shooting and shooting and shooting, and 362 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: finally he walks away, you know, with several stuffed animals 363 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: that really aren't worth the price of admission to begin with. 364 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: But his self esteem is buoyed because he eventually made 365 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: a shot. Well, he doesn't understand he only made it 366 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: and got all those prizes costs he got to keep shooting. Well, 367 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: on the flip side, it's nice to be able to 368 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: keep shooting. And that's exactly where Ohio State is in 369 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: the Big Ten and in the overall landscape of college 370 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: football right now. 371 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: They are an aple us pretty much everywhere. 372 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 2: Every category that you have to check, every box you 373 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 2: have to check to gauge long term sustainability, they check 374 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: them all. 375 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:09,479 Speaker 1: So they're gonna be there. 376 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 2: They're gonna be the rich kid at the carnival, and 377 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 2: they just get to keep shooting. Now there is some 378 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 2: bad news, Okay, the bad news is they just got 379 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 2: blown out in a national championship game fifty two to 380 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 2: twenty four. 381 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: That wasn't fun. 382 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 2: They will not end up winning a title with Justin 383 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 2: Fields at quarterback. You could call that a failure if 384 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: you want to. I mean, they were there, they put 385 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 2: themselves in position, they didn't end up winning one. You 386 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 2: never know, you know, if you look back on this 387 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 2: last game, you never know. If you had all your 388 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 2: missing starters, you never know what kind of difference it 389 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 2: would have made in the game. And so that's kind 390 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 2: of a what if, Like the old if Colt wouldn't 391 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 2: have gotten hurt for Texas and nine that's always going 392 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 2: to be there, and hey, it's a major shot to 393 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 2: your pride to take a beat down like that on 394 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 2: the biggest stage the sport has to offer. So that's 395 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: the bad news. The good news is you get unlimited shots. 396 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: This isn't a situation where you built towards twenty twenty 397 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: for like three years, and once this heralded senior class departs, 398 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 2: oh man, it's going to be a while before we 399 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 2: ever get to that spot again. This is Ohio State. 400 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: So now let's talk about the good news. You're the 401 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 2: rich kid. You get to shoot every single time, you 402 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 2: get to shoot for the title every single year. 403 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: Ryan Day is here to stay. 404 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: Ryan Day had some NFL overtures, and he was very 405 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 2: succinct and direct in shooting all that down and saying, 406 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 2: I have no interest. I'm going to be at Ohio State. 407 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 2: It's very nice to have an elite head coach and 408 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: to also not ever have to feel like you're fearing 409 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 2: him leaving number one, because there's not a job more 410 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: elite than Ohio State. He's not going to leave for 411 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 2: another college job, and it doesn't really sound like he's 412 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 2: all that into the idea of going to the NFL 413 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 2: right now. 414 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: And he's young, so you got him for a long time. 415 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 2: Elite recruiting classes continue to stack on top of each 416 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 2: other at Ohio State. So the most precious commodity being 417 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 2: a talent roster. You're going to have an A plus 418 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: talent roster every year. And they've got an elite culture 419 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 2: there site how they acted even after beating Clemson as 420 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 2: exhibit one A. And also they've got very few obstacles 421 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 2: during the season in the Big Ten. Who's stepping up. 422 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk more about that in a second. So 423 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 2: there are zero issues with complacency. It's not like this 424 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 2: group has won a national title with Ryan Day as 425 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: head coach, so you're not have to worry about the complacency. 426 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: You don't have multiple hurdles to clear every year in. 427 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 2: The Big Ten. You're gonna have the talent, you're gonna 428 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: have the head coach. You just keep shooting every single year. 429 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 2: Eventually they're gonna drain one or two or three. I'm 430 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 2: not gonna go lebron on. You didn't count off all 431 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 2: the future titles. But they're gonna be in position every year. 432 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: And the primary focus. This is what the shift has been, 433 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 2: like the primary focus at Ohio State. And for an 434 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 2: Ohio State fan, it's no longer Michigan or anything in 435 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 2: the Big Ten. Really it's transcended which conference they play in, 436 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 2: sort of like it has for Clemson. 437 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: Clemson's main focus. 438 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: And this sounded crazy if I told you this in 439 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 2: two thousand and one or two. Clemson is not worried 440 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: about Miami or at Florida State. They go into every 441 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: year where they're focus, the same place. Ohio State's focus 442 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: is now Tuscaloosa, Alabama. That's where the focus is. It's 443 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 2: almost like you've erased the conference boundaries because no one 444 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 2: scares you in your own conference. You're competing at a 445 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 2: national level, and you're competing the same way as. 446 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: You will on the recruiting trail. 447 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 2: It'll be on the football field you're competing with, well, 448 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 2: it was Clemson and you just got over that hump. 449 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: You're competing with the University of Alabama. So that's the 450 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: mood at Ohio State right now. How about Georgia? How 451 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 2: about Georgia? Director Colin we were just looking at justin 452 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 2: fields there, so I'm not gonna I'm not gonna revisit that. 453 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 2: That's a sore subject. The mood tracker at Georgia. I 454 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 2: had a hard time nailing this one down. There are 455 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 2: a few different ways that you can go, So here's 456 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 2: where I went. I went with the slam the hood mode. 457 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 2: I think we've used this one one other time. Slam 458 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 2: the hood mode is basically, you know, if you've been 459 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 2: working on car repairs, if you've had the hood up 460 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 2: and you thought you had it fixed, and then you 461 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 2: got to give another crank, then you got to give 462 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 2: it another turn of the turn of the and then 463 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 2: you think you got it fixed, and then oh man, 464 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 2: we still got a clicking noise over here. That feeling 465 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 2: when you finally got everything fixed and you know you're 466 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 2: good to go, and it sounds good when you finally 467 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 2: slammed the hood and you're done with the repairs. That's 468 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 2: the feeling right now amongst most Georgia fans that I've 469 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: spoken with, even as recently as today. See Kirby Smart 470 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: gets hired in twenty sixteen, and I thought, for my money, 471 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 2: he stepped into one of the most advantageous positions a 472 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 2: new head coach could ever step into. Mark Rick had 473 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 2: left a really good culture there. There were no NCAA 474 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 2: issues hanging over Georgia. He left a really solid roster there. 475 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: It was so solid that in Smart's second year a 476 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 2: lot of those guys that he inherited had him playing 477 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 2: for a national championship. So he stepped into a really 478 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 2: good spot. It wasn't a perfect spot, like they were 479 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 2: not ready to go toe to toe year in and 480 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 2: year out with Alabama quite yet, but they were already 481 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: good enough to be competitive. But he steps in and 482 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 2: he he cures the infrastructure, he cast the vision, he 483 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 2: build his coaching staff. You know, he built the recruiting 484 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 2: machine there, and he built the talent roster. So you know, 485 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 2: you wanted him to have immediate success. But a lot 486 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 2: of Georgia fans also understood how to play the long game. 487 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 2: And so you look a little ways down the road, 488 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 2: and you know, we got to have better infrastructure. He's 489 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 2: got to get the answer yes to all the yeses 490 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 2: that Nick Saban gets at Alabama if we're ever going 491 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 2: to compete with Alabama, and we got to build the staff. 492 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: We've got to have a world class staff. We got 493 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: to have a world class recruiting machine. We've got to. 494 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 2: Either match or exceed what they're doing at Alabama and Clemson, 495 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: Ohio State, the few big boys, and then we got 496 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: to build this talent roster and keep doing it every year. 497 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: Well they've done all that now, Okay, So you ask, well, 498 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 2: if they've done that, now, why haven't you been happy? 499 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 2: Why haven't you slammed the hood? Well, the quarterback position 500 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: is why to this point, the hood had not been 501 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: closed at the University of Georgia yet. But then there's 502 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 2: a guy who comes in and his name's Jamie Newman. 503 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 2: And then there's a guy who walks out and his 504 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: name is Jamie Newman, and you never get to find 505 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 2: out what he was going to do at Georgia. But 506 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: then there's this other guy named JT. Daniels. You remember 507 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 2: we talked about him a lot in the offseason, and 508 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 2: then finally he gets his time at Georgia and performed 509 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 2: very admirably down the stretch, and he performs well enough 510 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 2: to where you finally feel comfortable that as you're looking 511 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one and moving forward, you can slam the 512 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 2: hood shut. 513 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: Every box has been checked. Daniels returns. 514 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 2: You're going to have, by far, by ten miles, the 515 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 2: most talented piece at quarterback that you will have ever 516 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: entered a season with under Kirby Smart at Georgia. You 517 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 2: also have several other key pieces returning the recruiting infrastructure, 518 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 2: like I talked about in place both as of this moment, 519 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 2: both of your coordinators and your head coach and your 520 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 2: quarterback will be returning. For the record, you know, I 521 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 2: know this is broad strokes. Those are the same box 522 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: as Nick Saban just checked. Now it was it was 523 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 2: the COVID year, so it was the most advantageous position 524 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 2: ever to be in and the best time to ever return. Everybody, well, 525 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 2: any is a good time to return those key pieces. 526 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 2: So George's got that. They got that quarterback box checked. 527 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what else they could have checked. And 528 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 2: I understand if someone's still skeptical on this, but they 529 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,239 Speaker 2: very well could have one of the best collections of 530 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 2: receiver talent in America next year. And unlike years past, 531 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 2: they've never lacked for receiver talent. It may not have 532 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 2: been world class, but unlike years past, they're in a 533 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: position to leverage it. They're in a position to finally 534 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: feature it. And so a lot of names the last 535 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: time you really heard of them, if you're an Oklahoma 536 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: State fan or I'm a Michigan State fan, some of 537 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 2: this receiver talent George's got on campus that the last 538 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 2: time you heard about was when they were being recruited. 539 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: If you follow recruiting. Now you finally get to hear about. 540 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,719 Speaker 2: Him on a national stage week in and week out, 541 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 2: cause they're leveraging it properly. That's how you feel if 542 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 2: you're a Georgia fan. So that's good for Kirby Smart, 543 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 2: but it also leaves no wiggle room for Kirby Smart 544 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 2: because really, if you think about it, like, if Georgia 545 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: doesn't succeed at the highest levels of the sport moving forward, 546 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: I'm I'm not quite sure what you're looking at and saying, oh, 547 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 2: here's the one box that we haven't checked yet. It's 548 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 2: all checked like it's there to be had, and I'm 549 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 2: not doing this. Let's build up a ton of hype 550 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: for a team in mid January. We got plenty of 551 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:13,479 Speaker 2: time for that. 552 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: But I do that. 553 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: I really do think that's the sentiment amongst a lot 554 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 2: of Georgia fans like, if it's not now, then what 555 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 2: more can you do? Well, what you can do is 556 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 2: you can keep checking those boxes every year and keep 557 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: swinging every single year. That's what you can do. Finally, 558 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: and this one's a little off the radar. I don't 559 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 2: think you guys thought that we were going to go 560 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 2: this direction. But I find what's happening right now in 561 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 2: Columbia South Carolina just fascinating. And I know a lot 562 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,479 Speaker 2: of you have been preoccupied with your own programs, so 563 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 2: you may not be fully aware of what's happening there. Well, 564 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 2: let me take you down the road of what's been 565 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 2: happening at Carolina right quick. So the mood tracker at 566 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: South Carolina, if you've missed it, you know, Shane Biemer, 567 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 2: Well maybe you don't, so Shane Biemer was hired as 568 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 2: the head coach there, and there's a there's an analogy 569 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: we use frequently on the show that I'm going to 570 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 2: use to describe the mood tracker for South Carolina, and 571 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 2: that is still trying to nail jello to the wall. 572 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: The thing about trying to nail jello to the wall 573 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: is you're an idiot if you're trying it. So keep 574 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 2: this metaphorical. But if you ever try to nail jello 575 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 2: to a wall, it doesn't matter how right you are. 576 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter about the precision, about the placement, about the. 577 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 1: Execution and your form. 578 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter because it's jello, so the substance will 579 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 2: not allow it to stick to whatever you're trying to 580 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 2: nail it to. And South Carolina fans, I was over 581 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 2: on the Big Spur on the message board there today 582 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 2: and I was interacting with you guys. 583 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: That threat is like five or six pages deep right now. 584 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 2: And all I did was I went on the Big Spur, 585 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 2: which is our twenty four to seven Sports Carolina website 586 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: and message board. Check it out if you haven't already, 587 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 2: especially if you're a Carolina fan. I went on there 588 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 2: and I said, hey, I'm talking about this tonight. How 589 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: you guys feel like if I were to ask you 590 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: a word or phrase describe your mood towards the Carolina 591 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 2: program right now, I kind of got mixed reactions. 592 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: And here's the reason. 593 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 2: On one hand, and there was a huge ground swell 594 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 2: of support to hire Shane Beemer away from Oklahoma, they 595 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 2: wanted one of their own because there was a lot 596 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: of disdain and as much as they loved the idea 597 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 2: of bringing in Shane Biemer, it was kind of juxtaposed 598 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 2: to how much they loathed in the latter days of 599 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: his tenure Will mush Champ. So you got him, and 600 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 2: so he comes in, and they wanted one of their own, 601 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 2: They got one of their own. 602 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: They land him. 603 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 2: The next chapter in this story might as well be 604 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 2: written in Portuguese because it gets really, really complicated. You 605 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 2: got to understand, like I said, they love Shane Biemer, 606 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 2: they loved the hire there, and they loathed Will mush Champ. Well, 607 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: here's the catch. Twenty two. Beemer initially decided to keep 608 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,239 Speaker 2: some of Will mush Champ's pieces. So he was going 609 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: to keep Mike Bobo, for example, as offensive coordinator. You 610 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 2: know Tracy Rocker was a Will mush Champ higher. So 611 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 2: you're going to initially keep them, but then they exit 612 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 2: and they had to Auburn for example, Or you know 613 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 2: Drew Hughes player personnel type he leaves for Texas. Well, 614 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 2: here's the reaction. The react is the guy I love. 615 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 2: If I'm a Carolina fan, Shane Biemer over here, the guy 616 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 2: I love. It was his choice, and if he had 617 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 2: his way, he was going to keep these guys. But 618 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 2: yet I cannot stand Will musch Champ, and I, as 619 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 2: a result, want to pressure wash any sign, any semblance, 620 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: any stink of Will musch Champ offer this program. And 621 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 2: so if it means us losing some of the coaches 622 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 2: that were his coaches in the process and some of 623 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: the personnel pieces that he had here in the process, 624 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 2: even if it means we're losing guys that Beemer wanted 625 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 2: to keep around. You know what, if we're going to 626 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 2: start near ground zero, if we're going to start close 627 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 2: to scratch, let's go ahead and suck it up. Let's 628 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 2: bite the bullet, and let's start from absolute scratch, and 629 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: let's have one hundred percent new flavor in here. That's 630 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 2: how a lot of folks at Carolina. 631 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: Field right now. 632 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 2: And you know what, it may be that in the 633 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: immedia seed, oh no, it cost you a win this year. 634 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 2: Let's just say it cost you landing a four star 635 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 2: tight end on the recruiting trail this year. I don't know, 636 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 2: Like maybe it cost you Gunner Stockton, for example, the 637 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 2: five star quarterback that has since decommitted. Even if that's 638 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: the case, the mood amongst a lot of Carolina fans 639 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 2: is that's fine, because if we got to get rid 640 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 2: of them in order to make this program one hundred 641 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 2: percent Shane Beamers, then so be it. 642 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: We'll do it. 643 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 2: So there's cautious optimism. There's also the willingness, i think 644 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 2: right now, to accept the idea of a rebuild only 645 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,479 Speaker 2: because it was going to have to happen anyway, you know, 646 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: And it's like the foundation sucks, so let's not try 647 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 2: and rebuild. Let's not even keep the frame of the house. 648 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 2: Let's just completely blow torch everything and let's build a 649 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 2: firm foundation. Whatever the record is in year one, that's 650 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 2: fine as long as we can look around. If I'm 651 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 2: a game Cock fan, this is how I'm feeling right now. 652 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 2: As long as I can look around at the end 653 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 2: of year one and I can see at least a 654 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: foundation has been poured that I feel confident we can 655 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 2: build on. I'm good. If that means five and seven, 656 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: If it means six and six, or it means seven 657 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 2: and five, whatever. The foundation is a lot more important 658 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 2: than the record in year one and then in year two. 659 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 2: If I see it start to take shape a little 660 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 2: bit more. If I see tangible progress, maybe not result oriented, 661 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 2: but process oriented in nature, I'm cool. What I don't 662 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: want to do is just twist in the wind every year, 663 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 2: and every year's isolated in and of itself, and there's 664 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 2: really no cohesion, there's. 665 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: Really no direction. 666 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: You can't look back twenty twenty one, twenty two to 667 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 2: twenty three and year over year see a progression towards 668 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 2: something that you're building towards. 669 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: That's not where I want to go back to. 670 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: So I just want to see progression towards something, something 671 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 2: I can look forward to, whether it's in twenty twenty 672 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: three or twenty twenty five, whatever. Please, I've twisted in 673 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 2: the wind long enough. Just gimme. Just build towards something. 674 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 2: And that's the mood tracker. 675 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: So I'm listening. 676 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 2: I'm taking suggestions from you guys which programs you want us. 677 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: To hit now. Eventually I'm going to hit them all. 678 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: But I do play favorites here, So wherever you want 679 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 2: us to go next, you hit me up at Late 680 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: Kick Josh on Twitter. 681 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: Follow me there. 682 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 2: Anyway, we talk a lot, We converse amongst ourselves a lot. Also, 683 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 2: I got some I got a couple of open sessions 684 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 2: zoom sessions over the next week and half for anyone 685 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 2: interested in getting into this kind of field or starting 686 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 2: your own YouTube channel, don't quite know how, want some 687 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 2: feedback on your work, whatever the case may be. Got 688 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 2: a couple of them. They are probably not gonna last 689 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 2: much past tonight or maybe tomorrow. So if you're listening 690 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 2: to the replay, hit me up Josh pat seven zero 691 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,959 Speaker 2: six at gmail dot com or on Twitter at Late Kickjosh. 692 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 2: I'll see if I can get you in there. Until 693 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 2: next time. For director Colin, for producer Jordan. On the 694 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 2: podcast side of things, remember we are not live again 695 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: until Thursday night, so we're shifting towards our off season 696 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 2: schedule now Sunday night Thursday night, but we will have 697 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 2: the two editions of the Late Kick Extra podcast on 698 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 2: Tuesday and Thursday morning, so stay tuned for that. 699 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: For everyone else here, I'm Josh Pate. 700 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for watching on a busy Sunday night, 701 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 2: have a great start to your 702 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: Week and got us