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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Melissa Tittle is star and host of the popular TV

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Speaker 1: series UFO Witness. She's former head of content and Development

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Speaker 1: at the Gaya Network and an established journalist, producer, and documentarian.

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Speaker 1: Her new film, which just took home some hardware from

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Speaker 1: the Midwest Weird West Film Festival, is Code twelve, The

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Speaker 1: Code Out of the Matrix. Melissa Tittle, Welcome to Coast

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Speaker 1: to Coast, How are you hi? Thanks for having me,

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Speaker 1: my pleasure. So this this journey to I guess, discover

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Speaker 1: the secret nature of reality, unravel this ancient code that's

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Speaker 1: found in tombs and ancient sacred sites around the world,

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Speaker 1: all began with a dream, a recurring dream you've had

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Speaker 1: since childhood. Tell us about it. You know, this whole

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Speaker 1: documentary became pretty personal for me, um and I. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think all of us that are probably listening to

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Speaker 1: this or are doing similar research, have had some kind

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Speaker 1: of personal interaction with whatever material that they're they're going

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Speaker 1: down a rabbit hole with. And you know, I'm no different.

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Speaker 1: And I had this this dream that just kept reoccurring

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Speaker 1: where I was, I was in a desert UM. And

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Speaker 1: the desert was very specific, and I'll tell you, I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you a little bit why that's important. UM. And

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Speaker 1: I was in this desert with what looked to be

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Speaker 1: a staff, and I would go to a specific spot

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Speaker 1: and I would hit the ground with this staff and

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Speaker 1: all these lines, consecutive circles would would berberate out, and

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Speaker 1: then these twelve spokes of a wheel would come out,

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Speaker 1: and then it would get really bright, and then it

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Speaker 1: would disappear. The dream was over, and it just kept

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Speaker 1: happening over and over and over again. And I think

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Speaker 1: it wasn't until I started working on Ancient Aliens, you know,

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Speaker 1: a million years ago when it first started that whole series,

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Speaker 1: that I started kind of putting together some of the

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Speaker 1: symbolism with some of the people that we were interviewing,

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Speaker 1: or I was reading some of their books that we

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Speaker 1: were considering some thought processes for the show, and I thought,

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Speaker 1: you know, is there a pattern to this? So this

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Speaker 1: has been going on a lot, and throughout the years,

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Speaker 1: I've kind of put some pieces together, and I thought,

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Speaker 1: there's something else going on here. There's there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of people obsessed with codes on this planet and with

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Speaker 1: the idea of fractals and me and the Da Vinci code,

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Speaker 1: and I basically all of that is true. But what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying is there's another code that's overlaid behind all

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Speaker 1: of that, all the stuff that people have already put together,

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Speaker 1: there's something else is going on. And I think that

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Speaker 1: this that we're going to talk about is a code

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Speaker 1: that allows us to get out of this other code

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Speaker 1: that's been kind of overlaid our society and our understanding

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Speaker 1: of the universe. One of the first people that you

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Speaker 1: went to to try and unravel this secret was Maria Wheatley,

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Speaker 1: who we know as an author and an expert on Stonehenge,

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Speaker 1: and she's a dowser and she she researches Earth's energies.

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Speaker 1: What did she make of this dream and these concentric circles?

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Speaker 1: I mean, Maria is Maria's known for a lot of

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Speaker 1: work as Stonehenge and avery and you know, but she

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Speaker 1: understands things from looking at the patterns that the Earth creates.

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Speaker 1: And she really led me to some really old books

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Speaker 1: books that I and even when I try to get

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Speaker 1: some of the images cleared, I could I don't even

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Speaker 1: people aren't alive, they're so old like, you know, I've

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Speaker 1: never even heard of these people. Um, but they really

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Speaker 1: talk about these kind of verberations that these temples leave,

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Speaker 1: possibly could have communicated with each other. Of course, she's

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Speaker 1: a doubt er. So we're talking about lay lines and

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Speaker 1: what things mean. And she led me in this past

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Speaker 1: to think, Okay, I'm having this concentric circle twelve dream,

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Speaker 1: whatever that is. And she's talking about concentric circles from

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Speaker 1: the idea of frequency and temples and structure is being

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Speaker 1: Like the symbolism of the concentric circles is how Atlantis

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Speaker 1: So that's where we get this the concentric circles, which

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Speaker 1: What did where did the um? Where does Maria Wheatley believe? Um?

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Speaker 1: These circles are generated from? Are they from deep within

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Speaker 1: there's these hot there's these I'm just gonna call them

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Speaker 1: a frequency um, the saught processes. And of course this

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Speaker 1: is not just my idea. This is there's other people

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Speaker 1: that have had this thought too, that like, all these

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Speaker 1: could they have communicated with each other in some kind

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Speaker 1: of ancient technology that's not working today quite quite possibly,

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Speaker 1: of like the the idea that these are built up

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Speaker 1: interesting is that in the dialogues of Tamias and Christias

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Speaker 1: all these measurements for buildings, like why do I need

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Speaker 1: is part of the coding, and they're hoping people will

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Speaker 1: figure that outset that that's the reason that these numbers

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Speaker 1: there's this you know, flowery romantic story that's happening at

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Speaker 1: possibly the idea that's of how everything's encoded with this

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Speaker 1: I think there's two codes happening at the same time,

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Speaker 1: one that's locked with into our current timeline right now,

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Speaker 1: and another one that offers us a way out. All right,

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Speaker 1: So let's let's drill down a little bit, because This

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Speaker 1: it works out to roughly seventy nine thousand, two hundred feet.

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Speaker 1: somebody had to have an overall arching plan for how

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Speaker 1: Emerald tablests and and there um. And this isn't the

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Speaker 1: fall of Atlantis was the cutting off of humans being

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