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Speaker 1: How you doing everyone? I am Russ Salzburg along with

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Speaker 1: Lance Meadow and welcome to Big Blue Kickoff here on

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Speaker 1: get it on, let's get it on, you know, everything

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Speaker 1: was make believable what I like to say in the past.

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Speaker 1: Now we played for keeps. Absolutely Yeah, this is the

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Speaker 1: real stuff and it's amazing rush after we've gone through

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Speaker 1: such a lengthy off season process. You had the preseason,

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Speaker 1: you know, t a s midicamp. Now we're actually getting

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Speaker 1: ready to talk about a meaningful game, which I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of people out there excited and it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a real tough matchup for the Giants here in

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Speaker 1: Week one, going up against the Jacksonville Jaguars, a play

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Speaker 1: off team last year, a team that really brings the

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Speaker 1: nucleus of its squad back and arguably one of the

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Speaker 1: get a great idea. I think Russ about how impressive

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Speaker 1: this offense is for the Giants starting Week one and

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Speaker 1: then in the first few weeks given the fact that

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Speaker 1: the people who are going to be calling in in

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Speaker 1: our viewers at home when the team, when you finished

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Speaker 1: last season at three and thirteen, nobody knew what to

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Speaker 1: expect going into this season, and you kind of don't

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Speaker 1: look at a three and thirteen from one season going

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Speaker 1: to be a playoff team the following season. Having said that,

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Speaker 1: you can get the feeling within the locker room, amongst

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Speaker 1: the coaches, amongst the brass in this building. If you

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Speaker 1: went from three and thirteen to eight and eight, people

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Speaker 1: might say, well, that's that's a fine improvement from a

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Speaker 1: lousy season. I don't think to the mindset in this

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Speaker 1: team is a playoff team. Well, I think based on

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Speaker 1: the moves they made. I completely agree with you, and

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Speaker 1: the high expectations. But I think what a lot of

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Speaker 1: people need to understand the US is there's a great

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Speaker 1: deal of parity in the National Football League. And the

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Speaker 1: reason I bring that up is how often have we

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Speaker 1: seen teams win three games one year win ten the

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Speaker 1: So is it feasible for the Giants to think that

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Speaker 1: they could contend to make the playoffs? Yes, it's absolutely

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Speaker 1: I mean this division just think about this, Russ. The

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Speaker 1: They won four in a row. Since then, it's been

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is not ready to go. I think it's

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Speaker 1: What I looked at at this season. Two years ago,

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Speaker 1: mean that's been a huge storyline over the last few seasons.

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Speaker 1: But if you look at last year's fifty three man

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Speaker 1: never seeing such an uproar over a backup, a potential

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Speaker 1: your point. Dave Gettleman and Pat Shermer had no ties

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Speaker 1: new opinions to the table. Russ, they're gonna have different evaluations.

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Speaker 1: So and if it's not just Davi's Webb to sell

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Speaker 1: How much longer is Elne Manning going to be under center?

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Speaker 1: that the Gettleman Sherman regime is not standing pat no

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Speaker 1: Barkley is obviously the feature guy. What I want to see,

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Speaker 1: to me, what I really want to see from Barkley,

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Speaker 1: I want to see how many passes he's gonna catch

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Speaker 1: coming out of the backfield or on short screens. I've

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Speaker 1: never felt that they did that enough with any of

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Speaker 1: their running backs. You know who I used to want

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Speaker 1: to see get that more was Brandon Jacobs, like with

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Speaker 1: a full head of steam, Brandon Jacobs catching a pass

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Speaker 1: you know, in the flat and taking it, you know,

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Speaker 1: and you know then its full steam ahead. Well you

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Speaker 1: had him on Bradshaw, remember Ross, who was also in

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Speaker 1: a active receiver. I remember speaking at Brandon Jacobs. I

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Speaker 1: believe it was the Cowboys game when Jacobs was on

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Speaker 1: the team and they actually threw it to him to

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Speaker 1: your point out in the flat and then he wound

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Speaker 1: up running it all the way in for a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: So he certainly had that ability to get out of

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Speaker 1: the open field and receive the ball. How they use

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Speaker 1: Shane Smith could very well impact. That's a very good point. All. Yeah,

444
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Speaker 1: you know they got that fullback back there, so uh um.

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Speaker 1: But you know Barkley is the guy I mean about.

446
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Speaker 1: You don't draft a guy that high and then all

447
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Speaker 1: of a sudden preserve him. You brought up his potential receptions, Russ.

448
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Speaker 1: I think the other thing to keep in mind is

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Speaker 1: whether or not you should keep expectations in check compared

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Speaker 1: to what other rookie running backs have done in the past.

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Speaker 1: And the reason I bring that up Christian McCaffrey, Alvin

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Speaker 1: Kmara to dynamic running backs from last season. McCaffrey with

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Speaker 1: the Panthers, Kimara with the Saints. Both of them had

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Speaker 1: eighty receptions, which to me is mind boggling. I personally

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Speaker 1: would be stunned if Barkley gets eighty receptions. Not that

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Speaker 1: he's not capable of doing that, Russ. It's just the

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Speaker 1: fact that if you look at who McCaffrey had around him,

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Speaker 1: you look at who Kamara had around him, and now

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Speaker 1: you look at what Barkley has around him, with Beckham,

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Speaker 1: with Shephard, with Ingram, all of these other weapons. I

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Speaker 1: just don't think there's enough targets for him to see

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Speaker 1: eighty receptions. Yeah, I I agree with that. Also the

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Speaker 1: other point. I mean, you know, the hip bones connected

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Speaker 1: to the shin bone and the shin bone and the

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Speaker 1: leg bone, and you know, you know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: The situation with with you know, Barkley, if you've got

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Speaker 1: a good run game, it makes you receiving game better

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Speaker 1: and vice versa. And all of a sudden, besides having

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Speaker 1: such a dynamic receiving corps, now you have this dynamic

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Speaker 1: running back. I want to see how that translates. We

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Speaker 1: have not seen Barkley and old All Beckham on the

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Speaker 1: field together, not at all. I mean, you know, even

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Speaker 1: on that first carry for Barkley uh in his preseason

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Speaker 1: opener against the Brown, you know, Old Dell wasn't there.

475
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Speaker 1: So you're gonna see them on the field the same

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Speaker 1: time for the first time. I mean, that's a big deal. Well,

477
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Speaker 1: and it'll be interesting to see how defenses react to that,

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Speaker 1: because that's gonna dictate what the Giants offense could do.

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Speaker 1: Russ at the end of the day, when you have

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Speaker 1: two dynamic players on the field at the same time,

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Speaker 1: what will Jacksonville do. If we're to actually look at

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Speaker 1: the Week one matchup, and you know, the Jaguars, to me,

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Speaker 1: have an extremely effective secretary. You talk about Jalen Ramsey,

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Speaker 1: who is arguably one of the best corners in the league,

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Speaker 1: A J Boyer who's playing opposite him, who is just

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Speaker 1: as fantastic. And then their linebackers. I mean, they've got

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Speaker 1: guys that could go sideline to sideline. Miles Jack, for example,

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Speaker 1: you know, is one of their best linebackers. Do they

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Speaker 1: match him up with, say Kwon Barkley. Do they use

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Speaker 1: a corner that's gonna dictate where Eli Manning is gonna

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Speaker 1: go with the football? Speaking of Jen Ramsey, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: love himself enough, does he? I don't know about that.

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Speaker 1: Did you read the g Q article, Russell? Was that

494
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Speaker 1: part of your morning breakfast routine when that came out.

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Speaker 1: He's really doesn't hold back. He's extremely opinion And I

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Speaker 1: will say this, I mean, I'm personally looking forward to

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Speaker 1: the Ramsey Beckham matchup because you're talking about two of

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Speaker 1: the best at their respective positions. But Ramsey, you know,

499
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Speaker 1: and this goes back to perception versus reality, which Beckham

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Speaker 1: is thrown into the fire with respect to this a

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Speaker 1: lot russ And that's why I bring it up. If

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Speaker 1: you talk a lot and you back it up. It's

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Speaker 1: two different things versus when you talk a lot and

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Speaker 1: you don't do much of anything. Ramsey talks a lot,

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Speaker 1: but in fairness, the guy backs it hey. As Muhammad

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Speaker 1: Ali said, it ain't bragg And if you can back

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Speaker 1: it up, there you go. That's exactly what it is.

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Speaker 1: So we shall shows incomplete unless we get a boxing

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Speaker 1: reference here. Let's go uh to uh Christian someplace in

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Speaker 1: New York. Am alright, Christian, I'll disclose location. How are

511
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Speaker 1: we doing, Christian? Hey, guys up where upstate? Um? And

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Speaker 1: close to all the name safe to say that I'm

513
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Speaker 1: missing training camp up here? Um about the offense. But

514
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Speaker 1: Matt got me more in a Sunday mood. So I

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Speaker 1: hope that they are looking at the a f C

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Speaker 1: Championship game because that Jaguars team fell apart when in

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Speaker 1: the second half when they totally committed the stopping Wonard

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Speaker 1: for not And really that's what this game is. If

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Speaker 1: you stop Wondard for not, you make boardles throw the

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Speaker 1: ball close to thirty times. And we got this one

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Speaker 1: in the bag. Well, I don't like ever saying you've

522
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: got this one in the bag, that that was a

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Speaker 1: pretty good to me. You're right, I they should have

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Speaker 1: won that game. But nothing's in the bag. Okay, if

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Speaker 1: you start thinking you you've got your opponent in the bag,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna end up in a body bag for yourself. Well,

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Speaker 1: but here's the thing, Christian, you could tell me any

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Speaker 1: opponent that you go up against, the whole purpose is

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Speaker 1: to stop the run so that you make the offense

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Speaker 1: one dimensional, and you want the quarterback to throw the football.

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Speaker 1: Even if Drew Brees was put in a position where

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Speaker 1: you had to throw the ball fifty times, there is

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Speaker 1: gonna be the likelihood of turnovers increasing, and you're gonna

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Speaker 1: put the Saints to the precarious spots. So I don't

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Speaker 1: think that game plan is unique just because Blake Bortles

536
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Speaker 1: is the quarterback. Blake Bortles also put up respectable numbers

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Speaker 1: last season at twenty one touchdowns thirteen interceptions, which was

538
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: pretty impressive considering what he put up in previous years.

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Speaker 1: They finally had some continuity with respect to their offensive

540
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Speaker 1: scheme and the offensive coordinators staying put for one year

541
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Speaker 1: after another. And the other thing is, you know this

542
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Speaker 1: receiving corps, which I've talked a lot about on this program.

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Speaker 1: I think is an extremely underrated group. And if Bortles

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Speaker 1: puts it where those guys can make plays, I think

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville is dangerous. This is the easy team RUSS to

546
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Speaker 1: look at on paper. You see Blake Bortles name, and

547
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Speaker 1: he's at you know, this is not Drew Brees, this

548
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: is not cam this is not Matt Ryan. And you

549
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: gotta be careful with teams like that because Jacksonville dictates

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Speaker 1: the tone of contest with its defense and can change

551
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Speaker 1: field position with its defense. So actually, as opposed to

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Speaker 1: the Giants defense, I think this game is more about

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Speaker 1: the Giants offense and what the Giants offense can do

554
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Speaker 1: to change field position and put the st us on

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville's defense that I think is going to be the

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Speaker 1: difference maker on Sunday. Christian, thank you very much for

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Speaker 1: the call. I've just been corrected by our fearless leader,

558
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Speaker 1: Don Spurling. For some reason, I drew, I'm drawing a blank, Keart.

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Speaker 1: We won the division in two thousand and eleven in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl season. Two thousand eleven was the year

561
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Speaker 1: that it came down to the wire with the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: and they won here in New Jersey. That's that's nine

563
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Speaker 1: and seven. The Giants were seven and seven. They won

564
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Speaker 1: the final two games against the Jets and the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: That's that I stand corrected. I said it was the

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Speaker 1: wire car. Okay, Chris, where is this? Ala Mucci? Yeah? Town.

567
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Speaker 1: You might have heard of shades of Beth Road, New

568
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Speaker 1: Jersey up in Northwest Jersey. Again ahead, Chris, you got it?

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Speaker 1: So um looking at the waiver wire, you know they

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Speaker 1: made some you know, the six acquisition. I identified two

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Speaker 1: of the players, Mario Edwards and Clay the point return

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Speaker 1: as the possible being active for for Sunday. Uh. Do

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Speaker 1: you guys agree with that? Do you see anybody else

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Speaker 1: any of those other waiver waiver claims to be Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, as far as I'm concern, I haven't seen

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Speaker 1: practice yet. Okay, Um, So to me, it just has

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Speaker 1: to be a wait and see. But obviously they're looking

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Speaker 1: at those guys. Well. The other thing you gotta keep

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Speaker 1: it taking to consideration, Chris, you're bringing in six guys

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Speaker 1: in the blink of an eye, and you're expecting them

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Speaker 1: to learn a scheme that everybody else on the roster

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Speaker 1: has had an entire offseason to digest. So I mean

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Speaker 1: to make claims that anybody is a lot to be active,

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Speaker 1: I think is getting a little too far ahead of ourselves.

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Speaker 1: Mario Edwards Junr who you referred to, former second round

586
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Speaker 1: pick of the Raiders, you know, defensive lineman. It really

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Speaker 1: depends on how quickly he adjusted James Betcher's scheme. I

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Speaker 1: think calin Clay would probably be at the top of

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Speaker 1: my list that would most likely be active compared to

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Speaker 1: the rest. And the reason being is if they don't

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Speaker 1: envision him doing much running of the routes as a receiver,

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Speaker 1: then I don't think it's asking him too much to

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Speaker 1: come in return as a punt guy, as a kickoff guy.

594
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Speaker 1: And he also has familiarity with the Giant special teams

595
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Speaker 1: coach because he was signed by Dave Gettleman last April

596
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Speaker 1: before Dave Gettleman parted ways with the Panthers. So this

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Speaker 1: is somebody that has a connection to Mike Schula as

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Speaker 1: well as special teams play. When you take that into consideration,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it would be asking him for too

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Speaker 1: much to come in return the ball. Also, knowing that

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Speaker 1: he replaced Hunter Sharp, who was the main return man

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Speaker 1: throughout the course of the preseason. Yeah, no, I agree.

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Speaker 1: The only reason why I was thinking Edwards just to

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Speaker 1: uh possibly spot a little bit. It's just because with

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Speaker 1: Morrow being on the being on the suspended list right now,

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Speaker 1: they are going to be a little thin on that line,

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Speaker 1: especially in the in the middle. Well, I think that's

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00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: a fair point. But remember they knew Josh Morrow was

609
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Speaker 1: gonna be suspended for the first four games, So when

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Speaker 1: they constructed the fifty three man roster, they knew, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be down to defensive lineman. We got to

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Speaker 1: make sure that we maybe keep an extra guy, and

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Speaker 1: I think they'll have enough of a rotation even if

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Speaker 1: he's inactive. But but you know, the last also with

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Speaker 1: Robert Thomas being let oh, that was a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a shocker. I think a lot of Giant fans

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Speaker 1: envisioned him of being in that uh you know, being one.

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Speaker 1: But I I think though, Chris in in respect to

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Speaker 1: what the point that you're trying to bring out, I

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Speaker 1: think Edwards because of that situation. Yeah, as you say,

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Speaker 1: they knew Morrow was being you know what, wasn't gonna

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Speaker 1: be available for the first four games. But once they

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Speaker 1: got ahold of Edwards, I believe Edwards is the guy

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Speaker 1: that also could be activated. That that was if you

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Speaker 1: would asked me that was what That's the one that

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Speaker 1: I would say, Well, when you look at the other players,

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Speaker 1: they claimed it was basically cornerbacks and centers. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you play the numbers game, rush, there's no doubt

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Speaker 1: about it. If they need an extra defensive lineman, the

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Speaker 1: one guy you turned to is Mario Edwards Jr. You

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Speaker 1: brought up I think an interesting point, Chris, with respect

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Speaker 1: to Robert Thomas. I was personally surprised by that. I

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Speaker 1: thought Robert Thomas had a really good preseason. I would

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Speaker 1: even throw in a J. Francis, who I was extremely

635
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Speaker 1: high on as well. I thought he jumped out to

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Speaker 1: me in terms of practices in preseason games. But they

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Speaker 1: ultimately felt that there were other players that they wanted

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Speaker 1: to go in that direction of. And Mario Edwards is

639
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: a young guy. There's a reason why the Raiders drafted

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00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: him high. Didn't work out in Oakland. Sometimes you change scenery,

641
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: things click with a different scheme. I think that makes

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00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: him an extremely intriguing player to watch. Alright, Chris, Chris,

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Speaker 1: all right, thank you again, folks. The number as always

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Speaker 1: the coming two thousand and eighteen season. Uh, it was

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00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: kind of interesting today, you know, having lunch there. I

651
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,239
Speaker 1: mean there are a lot of faces there, a lot

652
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: of guys here trying out today. It's it is a

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00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: busy day. Uh what is called an off day? I

654
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: mean the breast is busy assessing talent, which is typical

655
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: across the league RUSS. If you look throughout the course

656
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: of a season, what they really do is on off days.

657
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: Front offices tend to bring in players around on the market.

658
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: And it's not to say that a signing is imminent,

659
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Speaker 1: and I'm talking in generic terms, you know, I'm not

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00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: just talking necessarily something that's pertaining to the Giants. You

661
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: always need to keep up to date with potential free

662
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: agents because if guys go down and you don't necessarily

663
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: want to call somebody up from the practice squad or

664
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: it's a position you don't have a great deal of depth.

665
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 1: You pick up the phone and maybe you call a

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00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: guy that you worked out in week three and it's

667
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 1: week seven. So this is normal routine. It's no different

668
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: than what we've seen happen in previous campaigns. Yeah, it's look,

669
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: we were talking about it earlier. This Gettleman and Sherman

670
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: came in and they didn't come in like you know,

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00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: quite frankly wild cowboys. You know there's a new sheriff

672
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 1: in town and discarding anything from the past. I think

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00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: you come in. You know what. It's what John Morris

674
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: said way back, and everybody jumped on it to the

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00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: point of idiocy when he said at three and thirteen, everybody,

676
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: it's open for any and everybody. Nobody's an untouchable. That

677
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: was the term as soon as he said that. Oh,

678
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: doll Beckham Jr. Was on the market, but booking trade,

679
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: that's not the case. When when you are three and thirteen,

680
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: anything goes. So Gettleman came in, he got his coach,

681
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: they made an assessment. Let let me tell you what

682
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: one of the assessments. It wasn't a foregone conclusion, you

683
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: know in everybody else's mind because that's who we wanted,

684
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 1: and I'm we're all thrilled, and he certainly has looked good.

685
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: We're thrilled that it's Eli Manning. What would have happened

686
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 1: if Gettleman, trust me, if Gettleman and Sherman had decided

687
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: he wasn't the guy, he wouldn't be the guy. I

688
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: don't think there's any doubt about that. Well, they're gonna

689
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: make their evaluations based on what they saw over the

690
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: course of the off season. That's why you know, I'm

691
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 1: gonn emphasize what I said earlier in the program again, Russ,

692
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: if you watch four preseason games, not that that's not importing,

693
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: but it doesn't tell the whole story of what a

694
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 1: player brings to the table, and whatever anybody did in

695
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: previous seasons doesn't necessarily hold a great deal of weight

696
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: and substance to your point, because you're evaluating a three

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00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: and thirteen team. And when John Mara spoke to the media,

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00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: by the way, Russ last week, he re emphasized this

699
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: was right after Odell Beckham signed the contract. He said,

700
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: when I made that comment, and the media overreacted to

701
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: that comment to the reason why he made the comment

702
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: was why would you not listen to anything, Well, when

703
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: your team has only won three games, I think you're

704
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: doing a disservice to your franchise if you're not at

705
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: least keeping the door open just to hear things out.

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00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: Well that that that goes in line to as soon

707
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: as he was signed. That's Old Doell Beckham Junior was signed.

708
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: I was reading things again. Well, it just goes to

709
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: show you when they would talk and trade with the

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00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: Rams back and so and so talk and trade with

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00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: the Rams. If somebody comes to the Giants, hey we're

712
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: interested in Old Dell Beckham Jr. We're interested in Eli,

713
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: We're interested in this guy in that alright, make me

714
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: an offer. Let me hear what. That's not talking trade,

715
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: it's doing due diligence and listening to what any and

716
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: everybody's got to say. That's all that was. So you know,

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00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: forget that business and people want to continue to It's

718
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: just like Matt Patricia, he was gonna be the guy,

719
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: and Nick Daniel was going to be the guy. Everybody

720
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: had it going to be the guy, but they weren't

721
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: the guys. You know, it just becomes too much. I

722
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: mean a lot had to be done, a lot had

723
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: to be shaken up, and that's what happened. So now

724
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: you've got a new team, a new coach, a new

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Speaker 1: general manager, and you have Game one coming up this

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Speaker 1: Sunday against the Jacksonville Jacksonville Jaguars over at MetLife Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Brooklyn, Gus. What's up, Gus? What's going on?

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Speaker 1: How are you doing, Gus? I'm hanging in. How you

729
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: guys doing good? We're hanging in there too, were in Brooklyn, Gus?

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00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: They rid all right, buddy? Yeah? Um. Actually, what I'm

731
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: trying to think about is the impact on if Vernon

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Speaker 1: doesn't play this week. You know, I know that the

733
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Speaker 1: game plan is let's stop the wrong, let's oop the wrong.

734
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Speaker 1: But you know, essentially he's a huge factor on the

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Speaker 1: edge besides this, even rushing the passing, but stopping the run.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think that we're kind of overlooking. I

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00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: don't think he actually played this week. I think the

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Speaker 1: injury is much worse than we think, and I'm just wondering,

739
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: you know what our options are here? Well, let me

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00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: just ask you this. I don't know, why do you

741
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: think the injury is much worse than we think? You know,

742
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: he's had leg injuries in the past. I feel like,

743
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: you know, if it is somewhat of a high ankle sprain,

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00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: if it's not, it's not that. It's not that the

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00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 1: Giants are not lying the gus. The Giants aren't lying

746
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: about that. It's not a high ankle sprain. It's a

747
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: bruised ankle. There's a difference. I mean, if it was

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Speaker 1: a high ankle sprain, I'd be a lot more worried,

749
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Speaker 1: not just about this week, but for coming weeks. But

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Speaker 1: it's not a high ankle sprain. Okay, that's good. That's good.

751
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: I still have a feeling that he's not gonna play,

752
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: or if he does, it's gonna be very limited. Um.

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00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I think that he hasn't

754
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: recovered as quickly as who wanted to in the past.

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00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: I know it's different injuries. Well, I mean, keep in mind,

756
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: you know, I had this conversation with a caller on

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Speaker 1: previous shows. I think it was last week. Olivia. Vernon's

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00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: missed four games in his entire career, because so you know,

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00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: when we label players as they have trouble getting back,

760
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: he had played every single game before last season two

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Speaker 1: thousand seventeen his first year with the Giants two thousand sixteen,

762
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: played all sixteen games. So I don't know if I

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00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: necessarily think it's a fair label to say Olivia Vernon

764
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: has trouble recovering. We haven't seen the practice report. I

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00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: think it's too early to tell. I think you do

766
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: raise a good question though, if Vernon doesn't play, who

767
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: would the Giants turn to? And that's a fair conversation

768
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: to have at this point. The last caller who brought

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00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: up they did claim Mario Edwards Jr. I think time

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00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: will tell how quickly he becomes acclimated to the system.

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00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: You know, Kerry Win is another player that I think

772
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: would have a great opportunity, and you know, Win had

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Speaker 1: a very impressive preseason. I think we're all interested to

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Speaker 1: seed does that translate to the regular season If his

775
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: number is called, you still have snacks on the field,

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Speaker 1: and let's not forget in their new three four defensive scheme,

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Speaker 1: you have defensive tackles that also are going to be

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Speaker 1: moving to the outside, such as that Dalvin Tomlinson, who

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00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: is very effective in stopping the runs. So you know

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be an opportunity for him to aid in

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Speaker 1: the pass rush department in addition to continuing his responsibilities

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Speaker 1: on the outside as well as b J. Hill. You know,

783
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,959
Speaker 1: you've got a really strong front three that could stop

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Speaker 1: to run across the board. In my mind, with all

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Speaker 1: three of those guys, Lorenz O'Connor and Kerry Wind, to me,

786
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Speaker 1: would be the two X factors if Olivier Vernon doesn't play,

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Speaker 1: those would be the two guys that you expect to

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Speaker 1: immediately step up and be productive. But you know what,

789
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Speaker 1: kry Win always shows a big in the preseason and uh,

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Speaker 1: to me, he's another guy that I really like. I

791
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: got to know him fairly well. I mean it's almost

792
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: like always waiting for him to make that leap to

793
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: the next level. And coming off this has probably been

794
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: his best preseason. He's looked outstanding. Yes, he's always to me,

795
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 1: jumped off the page and in reality in the preseason Russ,

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00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: what I think people need to understand is if you

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00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: look at his defensive snaps, he had one season where

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00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: he played to the defensive snaps. And I'm not trying

799
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: to sit here and make excuses as to why Kerry

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00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: Win hasn't had that monster season. But if you're only playing,

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00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: on average thirty five percent to the defensive snaps and

802
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: JPP and Vernon are playing. Yeah, I mean the numbers,

803
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: they're gonna be lopsided by default. So I think that's

804
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: the reason why, you know, Kerry Win really hasn't had

805
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: an opportunity to consistently put up numbers. But here would

806
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: be a prime example where his number is called, and

807
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: you know, you're probably gonna be throwing Lorenzo Carter into

808
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: a baptism by fire situation if Vernon doesn't play, where

809
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 1: they probably wanted to bring him along a little bit slower.

810
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: But if Vernon can't go, you know, Carter would be

811
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: the next guy up, especially as an edge rusher at

812
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: the line composition. But absolutely absolutely, I just thought that

813
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: you know what was it was interesting, was you know

814
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Speaker 1: in the third preseason game, which you feel like, okay,

815
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: that's kind of a better reflection of maybe the the

816
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: the roster that makes start right. I mean, they played

817
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: first half. I was not impressed with the rush defense

818
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: at all against the Jets. I thought the Jets um

819
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: and I want to go as far as saying man handled,

820
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,479
Speaker 1: but I thought that the rush defense was not good

821
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: at all. And they kept them on their toes and

822
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: that was their starting line. So I just you know,

823
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: I know that the first two peason games we had

824
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: a much better rush defense. I'm just not high on

825
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: the Giants defense. I think there's a lot of glaring holes.

826
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: Um and you know, I really think that. Uh, I'm

827
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: hoping I'm wrong. I'm hoping I'm wrong, but I'm just

828
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: not hiding the defense alone. Well, Guss, to your point,

829
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: thanks for the call. Listen, if Vernon doesn't play, you know,

830
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: and that's how your call started. The impact. Obviously his

831
00:42:55,280 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 1: absence makes an impact. But you know, I don't know

832
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: if I agree with Gus that the defense, well, look,

833
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 1: everybody needs improvement. Awful last season, Okay, on both sides

834
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Speaker 1: of the ball. And what was the word I'm trying

835
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: to remember the term that Dave Gettleman used. He likes

836
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: the guys on both sides of the ball in the

837
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: trenches to have a bit of violence in them, you know,

838
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: he was, but that's a violent place to live, in

839
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: the middle of the line, and that's why he likes

840
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: a guy like Will Hernandez. You know, let him rest

841
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: in peace. Formerly the old late grade that George Young

842
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: used to say about, in particular, the guys you know

843
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: the lineman. It's it's it's a spartan type, like a

844
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: gladiator type mentality, and you can't you know, those guys

845
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: live really they beat each other up every day. It's

846
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: a different existence. And you know what, watching them walk

847
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: around in a locker room, you see it there and

848
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: they have they have beaten up. You know, you gotta

849
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: have you gotta have that a little bit of extra oping.

850
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: You have to play that position. Well, Russ, you're taking

851
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 1: a hit on every single play everything not every other

852
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: player in the NFL can relate to. It's not just

853
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 1: a hit. It's a hit from somebody three plus pound

854
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: and the big boys right in the middle. Yeah, that

855
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: is that is a That's not a hit. That's an

856
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 1: avalanche coming at you. That's what it is. Well, that's

857
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: why he was referring to his offensive lineman. I don't

858
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: know if this is the term that you were referring to,

859
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 1: but as the Hogmali's yes, yes, that's what Dave Gettelman

860
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: considers his offensive lineman. He wants them to have presence,

861
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: he wants them to have toughness, and that's exactly why

862
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: they went to address that position. One of the thing

863
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: I wanted to jump back to before we head back

864
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 1: to the phone lines. Russ and I think the last

865
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: caller brought up a fair question to me, the X

866
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: factor of this season. If you look at this team

867
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: as a whole, special teams I think has made significant strides.

868
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: I've been extremely impressed with the special teams. You know,

869
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: I'm not just talking about the return game. The coverage

870
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: has been really impressive throughout the course of the preseason.

871
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: The offense on paper, you know, we could sit here

872
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: at nauseaum going over all the names. We know that

873
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: the defense, it's fair to say is is maybe that

874
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: looming question mark and that difference making facet that could

875
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: be the difference between the team making or missing the playoffs.

876
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: And the reason being is it's not that there's not potential.

877
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: It's not that there's not upside. Rus. It's the fact

878
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: that you have a number of young commodities on defense,

879
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: meaning high draft profiles, but not a lot of regular

880
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: season reps. Okay, so there's not a lot on the resume,

881
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: and then you have some other players that are looking

882
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: for second chances, looking to make statements. So when you

883
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: combine all of that. Yeah, the ceiling is through the roof,

884
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: but it showed me time. I agree with you on

885
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: everything you said. The only butt that I have as

886
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: much as the defense could be a question mark. And

887
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: I like the signings on the offensive line, but I

888
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: gotta see it happen. You know them together, you know,

889
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: forgive course, the preseason the offensive line. Sherman himself has

890
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: said it, they're going to go. As far as the

891
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: offensive line. I don't know if the term is allows

892
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: them to go or helps them to get there, but

893
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: either way, the offensive line is crucial. I mean, and listen,

894
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: Nate sold has been made a captain. You got will

895
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: Hernandez uh oh, mom a uh. You know it's a

896
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: new center, is it Halapio halapeolipeo. It's it's still a

897
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: always seems to be a debate. You think that's the

898
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: best way to remind yourself appreciation. You're talking, you're talking

899
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: about it's all new, upfront, brand new. I mean Flowers,

900
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: as we mentioned, the only returning linement. But he's switching positions.

901
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: He's switching positions, so it's new all the way around. Well,

902
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: what you just brought up us if I go back

903
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: to last season and you were to tell me, or

904
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: you were to ask me, Okay, what are the two

905
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: areas that the Giants must seal up, must improve within.

906
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 1: I'd say the first quarter of the season two indicate

907
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: that they can be a consistent team. It's real simple.

908
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: They've got to be able to run the ball consistently.

909
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: That's a reflection of the offensive line that you brought up.

910
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: And then on the flip side, this is why I'm

911
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: going back to the X factor of the defense. They

912
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: have to be able to stop the run because the

913
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: Giants struggled in that department last season. And when you

914
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: struggle to stop the run, you have a hard time

915
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: getting off the field on third down. And that's things

916
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: that are synonymous with one another. So if the Giants

917
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: stopped the run, you're gonna set up the opposition with

918
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: third and longs not third in manageables, which means now,

919
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:32,959
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you get to pin your ears

920
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: back and be aggressive and James Betcheck can move personnel

921
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: around and target the quarterback. So that's why as much

922
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: as we want to talk about the offensive line, I agree.

923
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: I mean, how the offensive behind plays is going to

924
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: dictate a lot. But let's not overlook the fact that

925
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: if they don't stop the run, it really, at the

926
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 1: end of the day doesn't matter where they finish ranking

927
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: and running the football, because if you can't keep the

928
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: defense off the field, time of possession is not necessarily

929
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: going to be that huge of a disparity between your

930
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: offense and your defense. One other, you know, we have

931
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: touched on that. Somebody was when we're talking about special

932
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: teams and got people that have shown improvement in the preseason.

933
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: You know who to me won his job because I

934
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: think it was there for him to lose, uh Aldrich Roses.

935
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: I mean, let's let's not make that a minor point,

936
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: because Roses was not coming off of a very impressive

937
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: season and special teams overall, yes, yeah, and he really,

938
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: um has been very, very impressive. It was perfect in

939
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: the preseason, you know, showing a strong legift five year auto.

940
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: It might have been his first kick. I mean every

941
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: time he it was almost as if Sherman was putting

942
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 1: him in position I want to see just how strong

943
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: this leg was, and he was showing it on on

944
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: every example. I mean, I listen, he didn't come into

945
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: camp as the guy, you know, go ahead and try

946
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 1: and knock him off. I think he really had to

947
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: step up and uh, he solidified himself and so did

948
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: Riley Dixon, the new punter two, which was also a

949
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: big key that the Giants were focusing on this Afsee.

950
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: That's why to me, I think the special teams overall,

951
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: the kicking, the punting, rust, the coverage. I mean, think

952
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 1: about the opportunities that plays they made in the preseason,

953
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: whether it be Kerry Win, whether it be Michael Thomas,

954
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 1: whether it be Ray Ray Armstrong who made the team,

955
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: who was impressive, you name it. You know, everybody put

956
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 1: their stamp on special teams. And you know, field position

957
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 1: is so big it goes without saying. If you want

958
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: to take pressure off of your offense and to that point,

959
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: if you want to take pressure of your defense, special

960
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: teams can help immensely in that category. So you know,

961
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: that's something that they really need to build off of

962
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: base on what we saw in the preseason. Alight, So

963
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: speaking of special teams, let's play a little guessing game here. Well,

964
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: it's been intimated. I think I know where you're going,

965
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: but let's hear it. Yes, not just just Barkley, but

966
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: we've heard Barkley and Odell. You know they can receive

967
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 1: a kickoff a punt. You feel, will we ever see

968
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: that happen? Well, I don't know how often will see it.

969
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 1: I think there's a chance we could see Barkeley and

970
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 1: Beckham get opportunities, not many, I would say throughout the season. Russ.

971
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: You know I've had this debate on this program and

972
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: elsewhere too. The Steelers use Antonio Brown, He's their main

973
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: punt return to Russ Mike Tomlin, I don't think he's

974
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: losing sleepover that he knows he's his best option. He

975
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: puts him out there. And you know, the argument over

976
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: the risk of injury to me is beating like a

977
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: dead horse, because you can get hurt on any play.

978
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: So I'm not necessarily looking to wrap these guys in

979
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: bubble wrap and preserve them. I understand, though, you know,

980
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: with Barkley being a rookie, if he gets twenty touches

981
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 1: to my point the game, okay, you want to limit

982
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: how many hits he takes. Beckham's coming off an injury.

983
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: I get it. I understand maybe this season in particular

984
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: why you want to be conservative, But if you remember

985
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: us two seasons ago, the eleven and five campaign, the

986
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: Giants went to Cleveland and Odell Beckham served as the

987
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: main punt return He returned to for scores. Unfortunately, penalties

988
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: wipe them out. He's that blinking and eye he can

989
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: turn the page. So yeah, I think he got to

990
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: choose your points wisely when you want to throw him in,

991
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: and I think that's what Pat Schremer will do. But

992
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: if the Giants turned around, and this is my personal opinion,

993
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is gonna happen. If Pat Shermer

994
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: woke up one day and said Oldell Beckham is my

995
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: main punt returner. I fully support that movie, and I

996
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 1: think it would do one things for the Giants. But

997
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: he here's in the world that we live in, in

998
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: the world of the media and on social media and

999
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: all that nonsense. Here's the deal. If you go ahead

1000
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: and put him in that position and GoF bid not

1001
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: just him that, then it's just let's beat the person up,

1002
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: beat the team up. How can it be so stupid?

1003
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: I'll tell you you. You just brought out an interesting point.

1004
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: After it was announced that he had signed his ninth

1005
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: Odell signed his nine million dollar contract. I saw him

1006
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: in the dining room. He comes up to me, Hey,

1007
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: how are you doing with talking sense for some money?

1008
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: So I no, I said to him, you know, he

1009
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: drives this. He's got this souped up Mercedes, and he's

1010
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: got this white rolls with the pink gold rims and

1011
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: and it's like from outer space. And and I said

1012
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: to him, you know, I'm really happy for you. Now

1013
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: you can dump that piece of crap that you're driving

1014
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: and get yourself a new set of whales. So he

1015
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: was laughing. So he said to me, though, but let

1016
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: me ask you a question. You think coach is gonna

1017
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: play me? He was talking about the last preseason game.

1018
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: So I looked at him and I said, are you nuts?

1019
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: So he looked a him. He goes like this, he

1020
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: and that's that. That's serious. Why, I said, Hotel, you

1021
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: just signed a ninety five million dollar contract. Do you

1022
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: think anybody wants you to get hurt against the New

1023
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: England Patriots? And his answered to me was yeah, but

1024
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 1: you can get hurt anytime. And you know what that

1025
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:55,240
Speaker 1: told me something about him, his desire and he's anxious

1026
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: to play. He said to me, I can get hurt

1027
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: tomorrow and practice. He was dead sir parious about it.

1028
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: He wants to play, and you know what, it is

1029
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: football and anything can happen. So I kind of agree

1030
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: with you. If somebody was gonna tell me Barkley or

1031
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: or Odell what returning this or returning that? God bless,

1032
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: I am not gonna sneeze on it. I remember when

1033
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: just drawing to Blake, the defensive back, Oh my goodness

1034
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: from USC so Terrell Thomas, no no, no, no, no, no,

1035
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,280
Speaker 1: going back way back. He was married to the actress

1036
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: Jason Jason Sell. Remember when he got hurt on a

1037
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: kickoff returning everybody wanted to kill the giant. I mean,

1038
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: it's football. It's football, that's what it is. You're you're that.

1039
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have any problem with it whatsoever. That's always

1040
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: been my philosophy. Russ Odell Beckham got hurt. I mean

1041
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: in a regular season game. But he got hurt on

1042
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: just a random play. It wasn't anything special. It was

1043
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: them trying to drive and unfortunately Anko went down the

1044
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: wrong way. So he can't predict in reads. You just

1045
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: gotta go out there, and you know what, from a

1046
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,439
Speaker 1: player's perspective, that's why I respect what Oldell Beckham said

1047
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: Russ because the minute you start overthinking about injuries, and

1048
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 1: even Old Dell Becka mentioned this throughout the rehab process.

1049
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: You're putting yourself in danger when you go out there

1050
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: in a game and you're overthinking things. Do I want

1051
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: to plant my foot this way? That's a no no.

1052
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: You should not be on the field and you're thinking

1053
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: that you can't. You can't play scared, and not just

1054
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: in football. The minute you're playing scared, it's time to

1055
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: get off. Absolutely, you will not succeed. You will in fact,

1056
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: that's when you're gonna get hurt. You can't be a

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00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 1: nervous nelly when you're doing that. So let me ask

1058
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: you this. It is a new team that coming off

1059
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: a three and thirteen record. It has certainly been a

1060
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: love affair for Pat Shermer as well as you know

1061
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: Dave Gettlman. Uh. The love affair can end in a

1062
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: finger snap with a couple of losses because it's you know,

1063
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: a new group and because you're coming over for three

1064
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: and thirteen and it's still fresh in the minds of

1065
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 1: the fans even though they're in those How important is

1066
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 1: it for this edition? There's two thousand and eighteen edition

1067
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: of the Giants to get off to a fast start. Well,

1068
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: I think you can make the case for any team, Russ.

1069
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you want to be able to set the

1070
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: tone early. It's a tough schedule. I mean, I'll tell

1071
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 1: you what. Let's not dance around. Let me challenge start.

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00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. You're starting, you know,

1073
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: as as all coaches like to do, you do it.

1074
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: They divide the season in quarters, and after each quarters,

1075
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: so your first quarter is Jacksonville at home at Dallas,

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00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: at Euston at home to New Orleans. None of those

1077
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: are a walk in the park. Now, what what are

1078
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: you happy with? If the four games? Well, I think

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00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: if the Giants could get to two and two, I

1080
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: think that is a reasonable expectation. And I think if

1081
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: you're the coaching staff, you get five hundred even after

1082
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 1: the first four games, that I think is a reasonable target.

1083
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: You get to three and one, icing on the cake

1084
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: in four and oh, certainly you're gonna sit back and

1085
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 1: feel really good about yourself. But if you walk away

1086
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: with two out of the four, I mean, I think

1087
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 1: that's a big step in the right direction. Notice, though,

1088
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 1: let's they're gonna step further though, rush with respect to

1089
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: the early schedule Jacksonville, Blake Bortles mobile quarterback, you stint,

1090
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, mobile quarterback, Dak Prescott mobile quarterback with the Cowboys. Okay,

1091
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: Drew Brees not necessarily mobile, but certainly as a candidate

1092
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: of an arm So we'll remove the Saints. That means

1093
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: the defense is going to be tested with all of

1094
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: those three first opponents in terms of being well disciplined,

1095
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: because if you do not have your lanes and you

1096
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: do not have your assignments downpacked, that's when all of

1097
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: a sudden it gets into dangerous territory. That's why I

1098
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: think there's a really good test for the offense based

1099
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: on what they're gonna see with respect to the mobility

1100
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, the type of pressure the defense is gonna see,

1101
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: and if the offense get put up points early, that

1102
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: I think makes the defense that much more comfortable in

1103
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: the early stages of the season. Speaking, you know, we

1104
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: haven't really touched on him. He's, you know, coming off

1105
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: the concussion. I don't see any problem with Evan Ingram

1106
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: this coming week. I think he should be sound and

1107
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: ready to go. Well. Pat shermerzet he was moving around.

1108
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 1: He's still in protocol. They'll be us. It's a lengthy process,

1109
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: but I think the signs were encouraging based on what

1110
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 1: Pat Shermer indicated when he spoke to the media yesterday.

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00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: So hopefully he'll be ready to suit up because they's

1112
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: only gonna need him. To be frank with you, when

1113
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: he went down, and I don't want to minimize a concussion, okay,

1114
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: because they can certainly linger. But when he went down,

1115
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: I thought it was worse than a concussion. I thought

1116
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: it was his shoulder or his neck because he I

1117
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: mean sandwich, he and he and he was down, and

1118
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: he looked like he was in pain. It just, I mean,

1119
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: to me, it was thank goodness that he was okay,

1120
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: because like, there's a guy who I mean he to me,

1121
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: he's also on the verge of big time stardom. I

1122
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: think I think he's gonna have a breakout here. I

1123
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: think with you, you know, we keep talking about old

1124
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: Dell Beckham Jr. And rightfully so, I mean, if he's

1125
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: not the best, he's certainly you know, in the discussion

1126
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: for one of the best receivers in the league. But

1127
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: between Ingram and Sterling Shepherd who has looked to riffick

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00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: uh in practice and in games. I I just think

1129
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: that is a dynamic group right there. That is a

1130
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: very dynamic receiving corps. I mean, I know Ingram's the

1131
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: tight end, but he what's the term like sometimes in basketball,

1132
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: like like he's a tweener. Well, because he could play

1133
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: wide receiver and he could play tight end, which we

1134
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: saw last season. So tweener. I think he's a very

1135
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: appropriate term, which makes him extremely versatile. Yeah, he kind

1136
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: of reminds me remember guy for the Jerome Barkum. He

1137
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of or Richard Caster going back

1138
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: with back aways. You know, they were tight ends and

1139
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: and uh he can um. I think he's a dynamic player.

1140
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: I mean he's made it the right stuff. But anyway,

1141
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: we're getting the getting ready to wrap things up. I

1142
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Speaker 1: want to thank all of you for being part of

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00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:54,400
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Speaker 1: to get under way against the Jacksonville Jaguars this Sunday

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00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:21,520
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