1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: I mean right now if you ask guys in the clubhouse, 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: but that's their closer unless can be a little of 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: all comes in and just does some crazy stuff like 4 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Ryan Walker's your guy. 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: All right, we'll get to forum show. We'll have bonus 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: questions too. But justin Verlander signs with San Francisco, Blake 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: Snell is gone. What do we think about the rotation? 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: Big Willy style a damis taking not just his talents 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: but his personality to San Francisco, and he has got 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: a lot of it. Bryce Eldridge could finally be the 11 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: first guy to crack the thirty homer code for the 12 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: Giants since Barry Bonds. He's six seventies a monster. And 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: then Camille Duval and his struggles last year after being 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: an All Star in twenty twenty three. So let's start 15 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: with the rotation. How are we feeling about Verlander entering 16 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: the mixed? Yes, that's great. That does HAP backward shows. Yes, 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: HAF backward show. Verlander enters the mix, Blake Snell is gone. 18 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: There's a lot of young starting pitching talent in that rotation. 19 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: Where do you think they're at? 20 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 3: Well, you guys are gonna love this. 21 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: I've been doing a lot of fan fest stuff, and 22 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: I've been hanging out with Buster Posey and doing interviews 23 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: with Buster and talking to him, and we just put 24 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: all those graphics up showing what they did in the 25 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: offseason and just talking to Buster. 26 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: In his resume and winning three World Series. 27 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: He's trying to sign character guys in clubhouse guys, and 28 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: he wants that clubhouse to be a tight unit, and 29 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: he wants them he wants the opponents to feel the Giants, 30 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: whether you win or lose, to feel their presence. And 31 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: you guys, think back to Buster Posey's teams at ten, twelve, 32 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: and fourteen. Whenever you played the San Francisco Giants, you 33 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: knew you were playing the Giants whether you beat them 34 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: or not. They were scrappy on offense. They pitched the 35 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: heck out of it, they caught the heck out of it. 36 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: And I think that's what they want to get back to. 37 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: And no offense to the past regime and people that 38 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: were here before, But there was never a lot of 39 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: talk about getting to a World Series. 40 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: I mean, they have. 41 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: Three trophies on the corner and third and kick down there, Aja, 42 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: you know that better than anybody, And In the past years, 43 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: there was a lot of talk in the media from 44 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: brass and front office people about, Hey, we just want 45 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: to get to the playoffs. And I think it's super 46 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: healthy for a team to talk about, Hey, we want 47 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: to win a World Series. I don't care who's in 48 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: our division. I don't care how much money they've spent. 49 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: That this is the San Francisco freaking Giants, And I 50 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: think with Buster at the Helm that they're going to 51 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: get back to that. You talk about Willia Damas and 52 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: Justin Verlander, those are resume guys, but resume guys that 53 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: can still play. And you guys probably know better than 54 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: I do because you're more recent in the game. But 55 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: I have never heard a bad word about Willia Damas. 56 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: Like his clubhouse presence. We can see how he plays 57 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: every day, and being a broadcaster, I don't fanboy about 58 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: many players because you know you're with them every day 59 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: and you respect them and you love what they do 60 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: and you live vicariously through them now. But as far 61 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: as Willia Damas man, I've loved watching him play from Afar. 62 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: I've talked to players that played with him. The clubhouse 63 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: presidence he has what a nice guy you guys know, 64 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: you can't win with just nice guys, but like he 65 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: can play. And I think the fact that Buster's going 66 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: after these guys says a lot about the direction the 67 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: organization is trying to head, the culture they're trying to 68 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: bring back to San Francisco. 69 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 4: He's definitely a leader in that clubhouse, or he could 70 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 4: be a leader in that clubhouse once he joins it. 71 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 4: But the fear is just the same fear of any 72 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 4: free agent that signs in San Francisco. Is his power 73 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 4: going to go out? 74 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: Well? 75 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 4: Will the well, the pot, well the park and the 76 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 4: do coming in? The Marine layer coming in squashes power 77 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 4: like everybody else's. 78 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it might. 79 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: I think you have to like take the numbers, at 80 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: least the power numbers in Milwaukee. Right. 81 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: That's a launching pat Eric, you know that. 82 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: And now you're playing in San Francisco and baseball is 83 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: meant to be played in the warm weather, and you're 84 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: freezing your butt off every time. I remember when I 85 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: signed with the Giants, I was at Candlestick, so I'm 86 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: really aging myself. 87 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: But the first month in April, I turned to JT. 88 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: Snow in the dug Guy, I said, how the hell 89 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: do you guys do this like I'm freezing my ass 90 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: off very night. This is tough, but you get used 91 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: to it, so maybe you water down the numbers a 92 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: little bit. Eric, But like when you think about I 93 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: know it's not twenty ten, and this making me sound old, 94 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: but the Giants never won a World. 95 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 3: Series by hitting home runs. 96 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: They were won a World Series by having a great 97 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: starting rotation, having a great bullpen, catching the baseball on defense, 98 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: and getting timely hitting. So I know there's a big 99 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: beast down south that signed everybody in baseball and is 100 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: if any World Series champions, And you know that's a 101 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: daunting task for anybody in the Nation League West. But 102 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: when you talk about the success the Giants have had 103 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: in the past, I think they're trying to recapture that. 104 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: Although you can't live in the past, right the game 105 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: has changed, analytics, new rules, but the formula is there 106 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: and you guys have won before and you know what 107 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: it takes. And a lot of times it's not about 108 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: the numbers, it's about the people you have in the clubhouse. 109 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 4: Efie, I got to go to the prospects now. Though 110 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 4: you just mentioned that they're not a home run hitting team. 111 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 4: The last guy to hit thirty homers, there was this guy. Right. 112 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 4: If you don't know who this guy is, it's twenty five, Okay. 113 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 4: They got a guy in the minor leagues, Bryce Eldridge, 114 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 4: that's six foot seven. He's supposed to be a monster. 115 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 4: Will we see him in twenty twenty five at first base? 116 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 4: And will he be the guy to Jake break the 117 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 4: giants curse of nobody can hit thirty homers. 118 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: He's a grown man. He sees nineteen years old, or 119 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: maybe he's twenty now, I don't know. 120 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: He's six foot. 121 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: Seven drops bombs if you guys, I've only seen video 122 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: of his swing. But the video of I swing that 123 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: like this guy can hit. Now, everybody there knows. As 124 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: an organization, it's a big chance. You're taking a big 125 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: chance on a nineteen year old or a twenty year old. 126 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 3: Call him up. 127 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: But when I was in DC, Mike Gruzzo called up 128 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: Mon Soda when he was nineteen. Mike Rizzo called up 129 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: Bryce Harper when he was nineteen, And that thing could 130 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: go either way. 131 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 3: Right, if you have success here we go get you up. 132 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: If you don't, maybe you set him back a few years. 133 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: But from whatever, everything I've heard the video that I've seen. 134 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's a grown man, Like he looks 135 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: like he's thirty years old. He's six foot seven, he's 136 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: got the big league body. He's not skinny and gangly, 137 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: he's all filled out. 138 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 3: AJ. 139 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: I heard your story about JT. Snow and Barry Bonds 140 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,679 Speaker 1: the other day. They're actually sending JT down to spring 141 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: train to work with Bryce Elders. I guess reports areways 142 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: a little rough at first base. But you guys, know, 143 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: if you practice your defense and you care about your defense, 144 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: and you work at it every day, and you got 145 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: a guy like Will Clark a JT. Snow helping you out, 146 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: I think the upside's really good on the defensive side. 147 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's gonna be a tough decision. 148 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: What if he goes into camp and he hits four 149 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: fifty with like seven or eight home runs in Scottsdale, Like, 150 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: what are the Giants going to do then? 151 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 3: And I think that's possible. So we'll see that. 152 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: All the reports are that this guy's the real deal 153 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: and he's kind of a guy you can build your 154 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: franchise around. 155 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:40,679 Speaker 3: At first base. 156 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 4: We already talked about how they're going to start the games. 157 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 4: But Camilla Duvall was an All Star in twenty three, 158 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 4: led the league in saves. Last year in twenty four 159 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 4: didn't go too well. The whip was at one and 160 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 4: a half as Zra was in the close to the fives. 161 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 4: Is he going to be able to get the opportunity 162 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 4: to regain the closer role and two sees that opportunity 163 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 4: and get back to that all star form? 164 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. 165 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: Ryan Walker is pretty bad ass. So you guys have 166 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: seen him with this stepping into the third base, dugout 167 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: the crossfire. He's digging the role he's He's got like 168 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: a walkout lights thing going already, and at the highest level, 169 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: you get the job done. 170 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 3: It's your job. 171 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: Camillo had a weird season last year, man, I don't 172 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what was going on. 173 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 3: He's always got the. 174 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: I don't care body language, which is great when you're 175 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: pitching really well and the bases are loaded in the 176 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: bottom of the ninth and Tranquilo Camillo's his nickname, and 177 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: he's super calm. 178 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: But when you're when. 179 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: You're not dealing and you have that body language, it 180 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: could be taken the wrong way. So hopefully he figured 181 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: some things out in the off season. His fastball command 182 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: wasn't there last year, his slider command wasn't there last year, 183 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: and it got to the point where Bob Milvin had 184 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: to put somebody in that was getting the job done, 185 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: and that was Walker. And he's as dirty as anybody 186 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: I've seen a long time. So the Giants need him though. 187 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: I mean, if the Giants are could do anything and 188 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: get to October Baseball and get to the playoffs and 189 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: do what they did in ten, twelve and fourteen, they 190 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: need a guy like that in the back end because 191 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: when he was an All Star, he was unhittable. He 192 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: was throwing one hundred and two miles an hour with 193 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: like a ninety six mile an hour wipebout slider. But 194 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: confidence is everything, and for some reason last year Camillo 195 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: div all lost his confidence. 196 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 4: You brought up You brought up Ryan Walker. Ryan Walker 197 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 4: is actually coming on tomorrow, And what do we need 198 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 4: to know about? What do we need to ask him 199 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 4: somebody that's watched him a lot closer than we watched him, 200 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 4: because only times I've seen him, he's been the opener. 201 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 4: Now I hear he's no longer going to be the 202 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 4: opener guy. Maybe a dark horse All Star if he's 203 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 4: allowed to close for the entire first half. 204 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 205 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: Man, first of all, have one hundred questions ready because 206 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna he's not gonna be talking a lie, super shy. 207 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 3: But he's a great kid. 208 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: Man. 209 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 3: He's like one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet 210 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 3: in the whole world. 211 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: And uh, yeah, I don't know that the world knows 212 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: about him yet, but yeah, that would be a good, 213 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: sneaky pick for an All Star. I wouldn't want to 214 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: hit against some right handed and I definitely well left handed. 215 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 1: I definitely wouldn't want to hit against some right handed 216 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: when he's throwing behind you with that nasty sire and 217 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: his velocity upticked as a closer. I just talked to him. 218 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: He was We did a fantasy camp down in Scottsdale 219 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: for the Giants, and he came and talked to all 220 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: the fantasy campers one day. 221 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 3: Just the sweetest kid in the whole world. 222 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: But like, his velocity went from ninety five ninety six 223 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: to ninety seven ninety eight, And he was a guy 224 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: that just the adrenaline of the ninth inning. He embraced 225 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: it some guys. You've caught those guys where they've kind 226 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: of run from the spotlight in the ninth inning and 227 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: they don't like the responsibility of being the last guy 228 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: in the mount and shaking hands after the game. 229 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 3: He embraced it, he loved it. His confidence grew every 230 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 3: single outing. 231 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: And I think if you, I mean right now, if 232 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: you ask guys in the clubhouse that that's their closer, 233 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: unless camilev Alt comes in and just does some crazy 234 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: stuff like Ryan Walker is r guy. 235 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 4: All right. I was going to ask you something completely different, 236 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 4: but now since you brought it up, fantasy camp, I 237 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 4: don't care what's going So it's fantasy camp. Did you pull aami? 238 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 4: Did you play in? What position? Did you play? 239 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 3: I didn't play. I was a coach. I was a 240 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 3: skipper skipper. I was a skipper. 241 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 4: J T. 242 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: Snow was a skipper, George Kantos and Jeremy Affelt and 243 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: we drafted players. You guys, it was like real life 244 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: fantasy like league. And these people love baseball more than 245 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: we do, like we did it for a living, right. 246 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: They're just so passionate about the game. They love the game. 247 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: And I said, sure, I'll do it. The giants kind 248 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: of put me in charge of from the players side 249 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: of it, of getting coaches and round the guys up. 250 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: So we went down there in scotts Stale. We're like, oh, 251 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: free trip to Scottsdale. This is gonna be fun. 252 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 3: From a selfish tampoint you guys, It's the. 253 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: Funnest week I've had in years. These people love the game. 254 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: We had kangaroo court every morning, and in the big 255 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: leagues or even in the minor leagues, that kangaroo court 256 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: can get weird, right because guys have egos and you're 257 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: finding for stuff and you're like, all of a sudden going, ooh, 258 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: this is gonna this is gonna cause a little team dissension. 259 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: It was so organic down there that we laughed so 260 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: hard we cried every morning. We played games in the afternoon. 261 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: I didn't I've never been to one. Like, I highly 262 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: recommend fantasy camp to anybody. 263 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: It was really cool. We all had a blast down there, and. 264 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, the competitive juices start coming out. 265 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: It's like a doctor, a lawyer, a father and a son, 266 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: a brother and a sister, a husband and a wife. 267 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: But they put that scoreboard on and there's runs up 268 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: there and I was yelling at umpires like we had 269 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: side bets going on games between the coaching staff. 270 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 3: It was pretty cool. We had a blast, all right. 271 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 4: Well, you brought up the team to the South. And 272 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 4: one of the questions that Scott Brown always asks on here, 273 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 4: why even play the games? I mean, they're gonna go 274 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 4: one hundred and sixty two and oh so why should 275 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 4: why should they even play any games? Why should the 276 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 4: Giants ever just just forfeit their thirteen games and move 277 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 4: on right? 278 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely, just go straight to the World Series. Just fast 279 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: forward to October. We all sit at home and do 280 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: nothing for six months, and then we watched the Dodgers 281 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: play I don't. 282 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 3: Know the Yankees, and then we just watch what you get. 283 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: No one's ever won a World Series in January. No 284 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: one's ever won a World Series in February. I mean, 285 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: they look great on paper, they're defending world champs. 286 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 3: The thing I like the most. 287 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: About them is with all the superstars they have, whether 288 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: it's Freddy or Mooky or show Hey, you go down 289 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: the list, those guys play the game the right way. 290 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: I mean they all check their egos at the door. 291 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: They're in to win. I mean, obviously they're taking care 292 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: of for the rest of their life. But we've all 293 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: been in situations where those big contracts sometimes change people. 294 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: And to their credit, Man, they move runners over, they 295 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: get guys in, they play good defense, they run the 296 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: bases aggressively, intelligently. 297 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 3: They're all in for doc. 298 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: I mean, as much as you'd like to hate the Dodgers, man, 299 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: I think they won the World Series last year because 300 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 1: they played baseball the way it's meant to be played. 301 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 3: They played the game the right way. 302 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 4: All right, Fie, last thing before you go, you said something, 303 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 4: and before we got on fantasy camp, you said you 304 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 4: think the Giants can make the playoffs. Now, Plakota, who's 305 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 4: not always the greatest at predicting things, put out their predictions. 306 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 4: They We're going to dig into them a little bit. 307 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 4: Seventy seven point nine wins. How can they win more 308 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 4: than that in a division with La Arizona and San 309 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 4: Diego probably better than them, or you know, La and 310 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 4: you know, people can make an argument they're better than 311 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 4: where the Giants' roster is right now. How can they 312 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 4: be better than this projection of seventy seven seventy eight 313 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 4: wins and make the postseason and make the Giants fans 314 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 4: happy again. 315 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah those predictions. You guys know, a lot 316 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: can happen during the course of a six month season. 317 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: It doesn't look good, right. They haven't had some great seasons. 318 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: They've done so many things where you watch them on 319 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: a nightly basis and I'm up in the booth doing 320 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: games and we'll go to commercial. I'll turn to my 321 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: partner and go like, what are we doing? Oh my god, 322 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: there's another base running mistake. They threw to the wrong base. 323 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 1: They didn't keep the double play in order. So saying 324 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: all that and then talking to Buster and being around 325 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: a lot of the players this winner. They're all in 326 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: Scottsdale together. The whole team's been down there for about 327 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: a month or so. 328 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 3: Half the guys live there. 329 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: They've been practicing, you know, on their own together, so 330 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: they get to know each other. They get know Willia Damas. 331 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: Willia Damas is turn the double plays with Tyler. Fitzgerald 332 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: is going to move to second base. And I think 333 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: if they play fundamentally sound baseball, and if you do that, 334 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: you guys have been on teams that have done that, 335 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: you don't have to have the most talent to get 336 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: to October. You don't worry about any other teams. You 337 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: isolate yourself and you're like, it's all about us in 338 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: this clubhouse. But if you play fundamentally sound baseball, you 339 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: take your walks and hand the baton to the next guy. 340 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: You run the basses smart, you're aggressive on the basis 341 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: they're going to steal a lot of more bases, or 342 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: try to this year. You play good defense, you catch 343 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: the ball, you throw strikes, you got a good back 344 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: end of the bullpen. 345 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 3: You could win a lot of games. 346 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: And if you play fundamentally sound baseball, you look up 347 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: after six months and you've won a lot more games 348 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: than you lost. 349 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, do you need the horses? 350 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: Do you need the Freddie Freeman's, the Mookie Betts, the 351 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: Ronald mcuna juniors? 352 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 3: Do you need Juan Soto? 353 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to have the horses to win a 354 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: world championship, but to get to the playoffs and to compete, 355 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: and I think that's a key word. Compete on a 356 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: nightly basis and play the game fundamentally sound and make 357 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: sure that the broadcasters up in the booth aren't losing 358 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: their mind during commercial breaks because you're doing silly things 359 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: every night, and you play consistently, fundamentally sound baseball. You 360 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: got a chance to play in October. No matter who 361 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: you are. I think you know you guys see it. 362 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: I don't, at the risk of sounding old, Nobody runs 363 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: the bases anymore in the big leagues. Nobody gets guys over, 364 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: Nobody bunts anymore, nobody takes their walks anymore, well not nobody, 365 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: but most guys want to hit, and so I think 366 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: if you play the game the right way, you got 367 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: a chance to win at the major league level. But 368 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: that's the key, right getting guys to buy into like 369 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: hitting at eighteen hopper to second to get the guy 370 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: over and be an over one. 371 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: Or you can run the bases like drunks and get 372 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 2: to the World Series like the Yankees did. But the 373 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: National League's a better league, so you just can't get 374 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 2: away with that in the National League. But FT, thanks 375 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 2: for providing some optimism and for the backwards, and good 376 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: to see you man. It's been a minute. We called 377 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 2: some some Nats games back in the day for YouTube 378 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 2: and all that, so appreciate the time. 379 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 4: Man. 380 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: Good to see you, Scott aj eric Man, thanks for 381 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: having me out as a pleasure, it's a privilege. 382 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 3: You guys do a great job. I watch all the time, 383 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 3: so thank you.