1 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. 2 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 3 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: I am Mike Spofford, joined as always by my trust 4 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: and colleague Wes Honkoitz. We're coming to you here from 5 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: our studios at lambeau Field for our only show this 6 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 2: week because of Thanksgiving and the Packers playing on Thursday night, 7 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: so we got a lot of ground to cover in 8 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: this episode. Here, Wes, we'll start with reviewing Sunday's big 9 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: victory over the forty nine Ers thirty eight to ten. 10 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 2: The final score the Packers get to eight and three. 11 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: The forty nine Ers were really banged up. And the 12 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: storyline for the Packers in this game, as you wrote about, 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: as we've written about really all season long, the two 14 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: free agents that Brian Gudakun signed right as free agent, 15 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: the free agency bell rang and the ink was already 16 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 2: dry on those contracts, Josh Jacobs and Xavier McKinney, both 17 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: of those guys playing a huge, huge part in this game, 18 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:11,639 Speaker 2: as they've done all season. 19 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 3: I just thought it was so interesting, man. And I 20 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 3: know I allude to this on Twitter, probably a little 21 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 3: bit more than I've put in my story, but you know, 22 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: both of those guys, they came here to win, but 23 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: it's been interesting watching how they've added to Green Bay's 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 3: winning recipe. Both of these guys, you know, you listen 25 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: to Josh Jacobs and Xavier McKinney talk about it. I 26 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 3: think both of them made one playoff appearance in their 27 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 3: previous stops. It was such an important thing to them 28 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 3: to not only get what they deserve as unrestricted free agents, 29 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 3: but also be able to find places where they can 30 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: take a good thing and make it a little bit better. 31 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 3: And for Josh Jacobs man who is currently up for 32 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: the UH, I think it's the FedEx Aaron Ground Player 33 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: of the Week honor. This Sky had ninety one rushing 34 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 3: yards in the first half. The San Francisco forty nine 35 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 3: ers had not given up one hundred yard rusher in 36 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 3: almost three years in the in the regular season, fifty 37 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 3: four straight regular season games, and he just imposed his 38 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 3: will against him. I thought it was interesting, you know, 39 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: Matt Lafleur's postgame presser when they were asking I think 40 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 3: it was Steve mcgargey from the Associate Press had asked 41 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 3: him about, Hey, what was the key to this? He's like, well, 42 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 3: we got that number eight guy back there. He's pretty good. 43 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 3: I mean I think I also saw a stat that 44 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 3: he might have forced like fifteen mistackles or something like 45 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: that in this game. 46 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: It was the most I think by any by that metric. 47 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: It was the most by any single running back in 48 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: a game this season in the NFL fifteen fifteen whiffs 49 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: on Josh Jacobs on Sunday. 50 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: It was pretty amazing. 51 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he forced it. I mean it wasn't just that, 52 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 3: Oh well, San Francisco forty hours and make a bet. 53 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 3: I mean, there was a couple of those plays, man. 54 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 3: And I'm not even talking like some forty yard touchdown round. 55 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: I'm talking about like just taking what potentially could have 56 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 3: been a negative yard is playing getting three yards out 57 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: right right. I mean, this guy is just a mac 58 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 3: truck with this cerebral attitude towards the game where he 59 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 3: just sees processing all this information. And I've said it 60 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: time and time again, but his jump cuts, man, and 61 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 3: taking what the offensive line is giving him and maximizing it. 62 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: That's what the best running backs do. And then Zabra 63 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 3: McKinney won this game. In the second half of the Packers, 64 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: I mean they might have already been in firm control, 65 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 3: but with that interception, that is what took any hope 66 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 3: that the San Francisco forty nine ers might have of 67 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 3: a comeback and just completely removed all that air from 68 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 3: the blue. Forty eight yard return sets off a string 69 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: of three second half takeaways, and the Packers got the 70 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: job done well. 71 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: You have to say with regard to the two big 72 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: plays McKinney made in this game. He was guarding McCaffrey 73 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: on the short fourth and two breaks up the pass 74 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: Packers get the turnover on downs, and then the interception 75 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: which he has the long run back to set up 76 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: a touchdown. Both of those plays occurred in Green Bay territory, 77 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: and when the score was only seven team to seven, 78 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: the Niners were looking to were in position to make 79 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: it a one score game on both of those possessions, 80 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: and McKinney was the guy who ended up stopping both 81 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: of those. So he gets his seventh interception of the season. 82 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: I think more importantly for the defense that started another 83 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 2: one of these turnover binges where the defense gets three 84 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: takeaways in the second half after going basically two and 85 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: a half games. The fourth quarter of the Jacksonville game 86 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 2: was the defense's last takeaway. No takeaways against the Lions 87 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 2: or the Bears, or in the first half against the 88 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: forty nine ers. So you go two and a half 89 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: games with nothing and then suddenly you get three. So 90 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: hopefully that's a good sign for the defense. But getting 91 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 2: back to Jacobs, I've said on this show many times, 92 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 2: and I've said it an insider inbox and everywhere else. 93 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: I've been impressed from the very beginning with Josh Jacobs's 94 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: vision and his footwork and just his toughness, his style 95 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 2: of running. It's been really, really impressive from the start. 96 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: What we're seeing now is all of that being married 97 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 2: up with faking end rounds and pulling guards or doing 98 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 2: the duo where they're just double team blocking going straight ahead. 99 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: All of this mixing up of how the Packers are 100 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 2: running the ball. When you look at it, there is 101 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: not just like the staple, Okay, this is the Packers 102 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: running play. This isn't the days of the Lombardi sweep 103 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 2: in the sixties, Matt Lafleur and the way the blocking 104 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: schemes and everything are set up. You have the tight 105 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: ends cutting across to you know, to take out defensive ends. 106 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: You have the receivers coming in and cracking on the 107 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: second level guys, and you have all the motion that's 108 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: going on with the receivers and the running backs themselves. Yeah, 109 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: the creativity that's going on in the running game and 110 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: giving defenses so much to try to decipher as far 111 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: as what's going on and who's getting the ball. Pairing 112 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 2: all of that with all of the skills and physical 113 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 2: attributes that Josh Jacobs brings to the table, we're really 114 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 2: starting to see something special in the Packers running game 115 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 2: and hopefully they can continue. 116 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. And and it's Jacob's ability in those instances too, 117 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 3: to get from zero to sixty pretty quick, being able 118 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 3: to get up to speed and where he needs to 119 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 3: get and being decisive in those moments. And so many 120 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 3: times running backs really struggle between trying to allow their 121 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 3: blocks to set up, but then at the same time 122 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 3: also making sure that they get there before the game 123 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 3: the gaps close. And it leads to what I like 124 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: to refer to as almost those twirling little play actions 125 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 3: that Jordan Love does where he almost sometimes will do 126 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 3: a full three to sixty and then hand the ball. 127 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 3: The Packers have been able to really open things up 128 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: and again facing a team like San Francisco where they 129 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: want to run the ball, they want to shorten up 130 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 3: the game, they want to play the possession game. At 131 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: the end of the first half, Green Bay did everything 132 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 3: they needed to do. If San Francisco wants to defer, 133 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 3: which is what Kyle Shanahan religiously does, you need to 134 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: go down the field. You need to get a touchdown 135 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: right off the bat. And seeing how the running games 136 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 3: set up the passing game in some of those big 137 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 3: plays they were able to do. That's the hallmark of 138 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 3: a good football team. Rob Dmowski wrote about this too, 139 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,119 Speaker 3: And you had your story last week about the explosive plays. 140 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: The mix between running the football well and creating downfield explosives. 141 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: That's that's how you get in the hunt. Yeah, and 142 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 3: I feel like we saw in this game. I mean, 143 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: it could have been even better. Unfortunately, Christian Watson doesn't 144 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 3: isn't able to bring in that pass, has that drop 145 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 3: at the end of the first half. That could have 146 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 3: been a forty nine yard touchdown. This game could have 147 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 3: almost been over here by halftime. The green Bay Packers, 148 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 3: Michael did what they have to do and listening to 149 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 3: Keishawn Nixon talk after the game. Again, I will not 150 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 3: quote him directly, but the Packers they had to go 151 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 3: three games without their quarterback too, and they won those 152 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: three games. So just the way this league goes. 153 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Niners. The Niners were as banged up as 154 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: it gets. They didn't have Brock Purty, they didn't have 155 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: their left tackle Trent Williams. They didn't have their best 156 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: defensive player in Nick Bosa. They didn't have one of 157 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,679 Speaker 2: their starting cornerbacks in Shavarius Ward. 158 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: But as you said, Wes. 159 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: The Packers did exactly what they needed to do, which 160 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: is they jumped on these guys. It was seventeen to 161 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: nothing before the forty nine Ers had a first out 162 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: on offense. 163 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,239 Speaker 1: That is exactly what. 164 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: You do when you have the personnel advantage when the 165 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: other team is trying to make adjustments for missing top 166 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: key players. The Packers got on top of them. No, 167 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: they probably should have put the game away a little 168 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: sooner than they did, but at the end of the day, 169 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: it ends up thirty eight to ten. It's actually the 170 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: largest winning margin of victory in the Matt Lafleur era 171 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:31,679 Speaker 2: twenty eight points. And the other really good sign before 172 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: we shift our focus to the Miami Dolphins. The other 173 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: really good sign was going five for five in the 174 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: red zone five red zone opportunities five touchdowns last week 175 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: against the number one red zone defense in the league 176 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 2: in Chicago. It was three out of five. The sour 177 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: taste was those two misses were zero point even being 178 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 2: able to get any points out of those. But the 179 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: bottom line is, for where the Packers have been near 180 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: the bottom of the league through the first half of 181 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: the season in red zone offense, they're now eight of 182 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: their life ten punching him into the end zone in 183 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: the red zone. That hopefully is a good sign moving 184 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: forward here for the stretch run. 185 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the fact that when they you don't have penalties, 186 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 3: but when they did they actually found a way to 187 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 3: bounce back from it. 188 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, they had the one on the on the open 189 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: the opening drive, there was the one red zone penalty, 190 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: but then they overcame, didn't even need third down, No, 191 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: actually ended up getting the touchdown on second down there. 192 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:25,479 Speaker 2: So well, it is a short week. The Miami Dolphins 193 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: are slated to come into lambeau Field for a Thanksgiving 194 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: night clash, and when you look at this was really 195 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 2: this is two teams, both of which have generated their 196 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 2: own momentum coming into this game. The Packers. Packers now 197 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: eight and three. They've won two straight after the loss 198 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: to Detroit. Miami has now won three in a row. 199 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 2: Their quarterback two Attagovailoa, is back from the concussion. He's 200 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: been back for five games, and in those five games, 201 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: the Dolphins lost the first two a couple of shootouts, 202 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: and then they've won three straight since then. The bottom 203 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 2: line is the Miami has averaged twenty nine points per 204 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 2: game since Tua came back. This is an offense that 205 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: is incredibly explosive, very much on a roll, and this 206 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 2: is going to be a huge, huge test for. 207 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 1: Jeff Affley's defense. Thursday night, I was. 208 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 3: Talking with Travis Wingfield, who works for the Dolphins right 209 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 3: before this for his podcast, and I told him this too, 210 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 3: and I mean this from the bottom of my heart. 211 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 3: When two is on the field, this is one of 212 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 3: the best teams in professional football. YEP. What they had 213 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 3: to go through there with losing him, and they've had 214 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 3: to do it a couple times now. Unfortunately, it just 215 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: changes everything because it's built on his decision making, it's 216 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 3: built on his ability to control the field, and obviously 217 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 3: the chemistry that he's built up with all of these 218 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 3: receiving weapons. I mean, the Packers. We talk so often 219 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 3: about how Green Bay has a multitude of different playmakers 220 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 3: they can go to. Yeah, Tyreek Hill is one of 221 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 3: the pre eminent receivers in this league, but it's not 222 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 3: just built around him. In Miami, they have receivers, they 223 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: have tight ends, they list multiple backs as their starter. 224 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 3: They there are so many different avenues of playmakers that 225 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 3: McDaniel invites into this offense. And again, much like what 226 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 3: happened with the Floor, getting underneath the shanahan and McVeigh 227 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 3: tree and then creating his own style, McDaniel has done 228 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: the same exact thing down in Miami. It's an impressive 229 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 3: offense and so much of it is tied into Tua 230 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 3: and his ability to create with it. Well. 231 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: Numbers wise, Tua right now has a one hundred and 232 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 2: six point two passer rating on the season, which is 233 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 2: awfully impressive. He's completing seventy three percent of the passes 234 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 2: this offense. Not to say that they won't take a 235 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: shot downfield, because they certainly will, but this offense is 236 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: very much predicated on a lot of the quick throws 237 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 2: and Tua hitting Tyreek Hill, Jalen Waddle and those guys 238 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 2: hitting them in stride so that they can yep yards 239 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 2: after the catch and try to get plays to you know, 240 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: short what looked like short, simple plays to rupture into 241 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: big plays Hill, Waddle, tight end John Newsmith. They all 242 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: have over five hundred yards receiving this year. Devon a 243 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 2: Chan raheem mostered a pretty good one to two punch 244 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: in the backfield. And a chan of course is he's 245 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: as good a receiver as a runner out of the backfield. 246 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: So and these guys, wes I was looking at it. 247 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 2: These guys are incredibly close, so incredibly close to being 248 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: on a five game winning streak here because when Tua 249 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: came back, they lost a twenty eight to twenty seven 250 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 2: game to Arizona in which they blew a two score 251 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: lead in the fourth quarter and lost on a walkoff 252 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: field goal. Then the following week they lose thirty to 253 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 2: twenty seven, another shootout type game against Buffalo. They lose 254 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 2: that on a sixty one yard walk off field goal 255 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: by Tyler Bass of the Bills. But then after losing 256 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 2: those two heartbreakers, now they've ripped off three straight wins 257 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 2: against teams much lower than much lower than them record wise, 258 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: or at least lower than them in the standings overall. 259 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 2: But this Miami team, there's it's interesting because to the 260 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 2: before he left the podium on Sunday after their blowout 261 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 2: winning against the Patriots two, was asked about the cold 262 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 2: weather in Green Bay because as a quarterback, he's I believe. 263 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: It's oh to seven, yeah, when the. 264 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: Peperature is under forty degrees, And right away he was like, hey, 265 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: it's it's time to bust that narrative, you know, bring 266 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: it on, let's go. And you have to remember, as 267 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: much as yes, it sounds like the weather it's going 268 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: to be in the twenties or whatever on Thursday night, 269 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 2: it's definitely not Miami weather by any stretch. But this 270 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 2: is very much the same Miami team that played in 271 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: absolute arctic conditions in the wild Card round in Kansas 272 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 2: City last January. My point is that for all the 273 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: guys who were in that game twenty degrees that lambell 274 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 2: Field is not really going to feel all that crazy 275 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 2: to them, because what they dealt with in Kansas City 276 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 2: in the playoffs last year was absolutely frigid, so I 277 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: can see, you know, and Tua wants to break that 278 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 2: whole narrative about his own whatever record. When the temperature 279 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 2: is under forty degrees, Miami is Miami is going to 280 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: come in here and absolutely give the Packers everything they 281 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 2: can handle. 282 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 3: Well, and this is this is the this is the 283 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 3: heat check right now. No pun intended with the in 284 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 3: respect of the Packers weather. 285 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I like that, that's good. 286 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 3: But I mean the Dolphins have been a really solid 287 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 3: football team, and they're beating teams recently the way that 288 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 3: you would expect them to beat them with Tua back 289 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 3: in the lineup and with the weapons that they have. 290 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 3: I think one thing I love most about Miami is that, 291 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 3: you know, they have a chan who comes out of nowhere. 292 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: Most it is this you know, ageless wonder as well, 293 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 3: but they still go and draft Jalen Wright. Jalen Wright 294 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 3: is contributing in this offense too. I mean it's in 295 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 3: a lot of ways. You almost have a three headed 296 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 3: monster back there. You look at you know, Jalen Waddle, 297 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 3: what he's been able to come. You mentioned Smith as well. 298 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 3: Smith is a guy that I think the league has 299 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 3: been really enticed by for a bulk of his career. 300 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 3: It seems like he's finally sort of I think he's 301 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 3: probably twenty nine years old at this point, but he 302 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 3: sort of realized that the potential that New England had 303 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: sort of seen in him and these other programs thinking that, hey, 304 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: this dude could be a potential playmaker. He's fit well 305 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 3: into what the Miami Dolphins want to do offensively, and yeah, 306 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 3: they're going to be super motivated to put that behind him. 307 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 3: You can even tell it so many times it's the 308 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 3: media that drives a lot of these narratives going into it. 309 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 3: You can tell listening to too and listening to these 310 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 3: guys down in Miami this week. They are fully embracing 311 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 3: this for what it is, you know, for as much 312 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 3: as again it's not Miami weather, but they we were 313 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 3: there on Christmas the second coldest game in that stadium's history. 314 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 3: It was like fifty one degrees at kickoff. I mean, yeah, 315 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 3: they you know, Miami, Florida and South Florida is pretty 316 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 3: warm a lot of times of the year. But I 317 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 3: mean when you play in that division, you see the 318 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 3: teams that you face, you're gonna have to, you know, 319 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 3: come up and rise up to these these matchups, So 320 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 3: I am fully anticipating you're going to see their best 321 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 3: effort in this one, and obviously trying to get back 322 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 3: to five hundred and show that there's still a lot 323 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 3: of fight left in this thing. Despite losing Toua for 324 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 3: as long as they did. 325 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, they lost him for a month. They went I 326 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 2: believe it was one in three in the in the 327 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: four games that they missed. 328 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 3: One passing touchdown too, That is wild. They had one 329 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 3: passing touchdown during that straight Yeah. 330 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: They're off. Their offense was really struggling. It's worth pointing 331 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: out because we've pretty much just talked about Miami's offense 332 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: to this point. Miami's defense very good. It's there is 333 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 2: There is nothing that jumps off the page that you 334 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: accept that when you look at their rankings across the board, 335 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: whether you want to look at rushing yards, passing yards, 336 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 2: total points, third down, red zone, whatever category you want 337 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: to look at, it's very difficult to find a defensive 338 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: category in which they are not in the top ten 339 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: or twelve in the league. They're not like number one 340 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: in anything, you know, not up in the top one 341 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 2: or two in a whole bunch of things, but they're 342 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: not in the bottom half of the league in almost anything. 343 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 2: They're up there in the top ten or twelve just 344 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 2: about every category. This This this is a defense that 345 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 2: has played has played pretty steady and pretty consistent. It had, 346 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: as I mentioned, had a bad fourth quarter against Arizona 347 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 2: that cost him a game and then Josh Allen kind 348 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 2: of did you know what Josh Allen does? And the 349 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 2: Bills put up thirty. But since then, since then, teams 350 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 2: have not been able to do much and in fact, 351 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 2: and I know New England is struggling, but you know 352 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 2: New England was down what was it, thirty one to 353 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 2: nothing before they even scored any points last week against 354 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: against this Miami defense. So as much as this is 355 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: a big time challenge for Jeff Haffley, this is no 356 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 2: picnic for Jordan Love and company. A lot of positive 357 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 2: signs were seeing with the Packers on offense, no turnovers 358 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 2: for the offense in this last game. We talked about 359 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs and the running game. But this is this 360 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 2: is going to be a tough matchup for Green Bay. 361 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 3: Very interesting matchup two in that it features the oldest 362 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 3: team in the National Football League in Week one versus 363 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 3: what was the youngest team and then now. 364 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: So I didn't realize that. 365 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if I understood that, right, I believe 366 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 3: the Again, I'm doing this off top of my head. 367 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 3: I think the Dolphins have twenty three players who are 368 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 3: twenty nine or older on their team. A lot of 369 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 3: those players are on the defensive side of the ball. 370 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 3: And in credit to them, you got guys like Calias Campbell, 371 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 3: who's still their leading sacker this season, must be thirty 372 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 3: four to thirty five years old at this point. 373 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 2: Who Apparently Mike McDaniels stood on the table for Campbell 374 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 2: because there were rumors about him getting traded at the 375 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 2: trade deadline, and Mike McDaniel's like, do not trade that guy, 376 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: and the Dolphins hung onto him and they are very 377 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 2: much I mean, they're trying to work their way back 378 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 2: in the playoff race in the AFC, but they are 379 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 2: definitely not out of this. 380 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 3: No, not at all. And in a guy like Campbell, 381 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 3: you're talking about an NFL Man of the Year, a 382 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 3: guy that has been one of the most dominant interior 383 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 3: forces for the last decade in this league, and the 384 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 3: guy I'm really enjoying them, Mike, I talk about how 385 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 3: old they are, and obviously Jalen Ramsey's there and Jordan 386 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 3: Poyer signed with them in the offseason. But Chop Robinson 387 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,479 Speaker 3: is putting some really good things on film too as 388 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 3: their first round pick. And when you have a young 389 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 3: guy that can come in and start to make an 390 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 3: impact like he's done and being sort of sprinkled into 391 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 3: this defense a little bit, it's a very formidable group. 392 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 3: At the top of this thing is Anthony Weaver, who 393 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 3: was among this mass exodus because of just accomplishment that 394 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 3: was in Baltimore last year, guys becoming coordinators, you know, 395 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 3: moving into bigger positions. Weaver gets this opportunity down in Miami, 396 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 3: and I think there's a culture and there's a thought process, 397 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 3: and I think there's definitely an energy you can feel 398 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 3: that maybe wasn't there last year with Zick Vangio that 399 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 3: you know, these guys really he has them believing in 400 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,239 Speaker 3: what they're doing, and even in those games where they 401 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 3: didn't have to it defensively, they were as competitive as 402 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 3: they've ever been in a lot of those matchups trying 403 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 3: to keep their team in it. So, yeah, Miami, again, 404 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 3: it presents a lot of different looks and things that 405 00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 3: Green Bay is gonna have to take into account for. 406 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 2: All Right, Well, I want to get to our keys 407 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 2: to victory in this one, but I will take care 408 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: of some sponsor business. Serious XM NFL Radio delivers hard 409 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 2: hitting analysis and up to the minute NFL news that 410 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 2: true football fanatics need twenty four to seven, three sixty 411 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: five and net cousin subs. 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I think the first thing 416 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,239 Speaker 2: that jumps out to me in this game is this 417 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 2: is a game that defensively you have to tackle well 418 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 2: because busted tackles is what leads to the ruptured plays. 419 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 2: And that is how Tyreek Hill and Jayden Waddle and 420 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: Devon h Chan and these guys you know they they 421 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 2: they are the masters in many ways of turning five 422 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 2: yard gains into two pus five yard gains. 423 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: That's what they do. 424 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: And the Packers defense have to absolutely be on their 425 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 2: p's and q's with the tackling, which is it's always interesting. 426 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 2: You know, a Thursday game, short week, guys are just 427 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 2: trying to get their bodies back. You never quite know 428 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 2: in these short week situations where players are going to 429 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 2: be fundamentally are there going to be more fundamental breakdowns 430 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 2: because you don't do much in practice the whole week. 431 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 2: The whole week is really a week of mental preparation 432 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 2: and the only thing you're doing physically on the field 433 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 2: is more walk through and jogging kind of stuff. You're 434 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 2: not having any real practices like you do when you 435 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 2: have the full seven days in between games. But for me, 436 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 2: this one, this one starts with how well will Green 437 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 2: Bay tackle on defense? 438 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 3: You know, before I give it into this, someone was 439 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 3: praising you at inbox, and as they should. I mean, 440 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 3: we do our final thoughts video every week, and you 441 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 3: know how we always give our little thoughts. 442 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 2: And last week, yeah, the Packers win, if which is 443 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 2: the final segment. 444 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 3: In mind was punching the ball in they went five 445 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 3: for five. 446 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 2: We were talking about red zone and then you had yours, 447 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: which was to get a takeaway, get a take away 448 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 2: and they got. 449 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 3: Three of them. Can I just put you on blast 450 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 3: for one thing? Okay, when we did three Things last week, 451 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 3: I love how I think you finished yours with you know, 452 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 3: and I'll be very surprised if this thing doesn't come 453 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 3: down to the last minute of the game or something 454 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 3: like that. And then the Packers ended up happening their 455 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 3: biggest win ever with Matt Lafleour. You just never can tell, 456 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 3: that's right now, You never can tell. 457 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: Of course we did. 458 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 2: We did film three Things on Wednesday, and we had 459 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 2: no idea that brock Purty wasn't going to play, So 460 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 2: I'll just say that. But yes, it's funny when you 461 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 2: look at it, and I did say I expected that 462 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 2: game with the Niners to go right down to the end, 463 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 2: and then of course it didn't be. 464 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 3: Somebody was I just got a kick out it because 465 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 3: somebody's praising us for all this stuff at inbox and 466 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 3: I'm thinking of all the weeks where I could not 467 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 3: have been more wrong with final thoughts. But okay, so 468 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 3: here goes. Here's my big prediction with this one one. 469 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 3: Green Bay actually can't allow them to get their running 470 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 3: game going. I thought last week, yes, the pace of 471 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 3: play had a lot to do with that. Getting up 472 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 3: to that lead had a lot to do with that. 473 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 3: I think we were in the middle of the second 474 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 3: quarter by the time that Christian McCaffrey got his second 475 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 3: can carry in that game. But even so, Miami hasn't 476 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 3: actually run the ball that well this year. A chan 477 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 3: has is a huge weapon from the passing game, five 478 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 3: receiving touchdowns as a back. This year, he hasn't had 479 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 3: those big explosive moments like he had his rookie season. 480 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 3: You look at moster, he's been okay this year. You 481 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 3: have to try to make this thing one dimensional with 482 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 3: Tua and try to get after him. Twenty nine sacks 483 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 3: so far this season have been allowed by that offensive line. Again, 484 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 3: there's been multiple quarterbacks there, but I think pressure is 485 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 3: gonna be very important. But I really do think it 486 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 3: all starts with containing their run game. If you can 487 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 3: take the things that you did well, and certainly the 488 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 3: offense played into that too, but defensively with them being 489 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 3: able to not allow much breathing room to that rushing 490 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 3: offense for the forty nine ers, this is still the 491 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 3: same tree that this branch is coming off, that Shanahan tree, 492 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 3: and if you allow Miami to get that run game going, 493 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 3: then that's when Tua becomes extremely dangerous. 494 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you bring up a good point about how 495 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 2: the Packers played run defense run defense against the forty 496 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 2: nine ers Christian McCaffrey. Yes, he missed a big chunk 497 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 2: of the season, but he's still the reigning NF Offensive 498 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 2: Player of the Year and a guy with fresh legs 499 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: at this point. Because of that time that he missed, 500 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: Packers only allowed him thirty one rushing yards on eleven carries. 501 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 2: And in fact, I put together my series of clips 502 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 2: for what you might have missed for those who want 503 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: to check that out on packers dot com. Six of 504 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: those eleven carries. Packers held him to two or fewer 505 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 2: yards on six of those eleven. So that was a 506 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 2: heck of a job up front by the run defense 507 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 2: and something I agree with you that needs to continue on. 508 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 2: So those are two keys to victory on the defensive 509 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: side of the ball for the Packers. What do you 510 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 2: think on the offensive side. 511 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 3: Protect the football? Yeah, you want to get more takeaways 512 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 3: and things like that, But I thought last week showed 513 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 3: and there were some close calls there, don't get me wrong. 514 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 3: There were some moments there for San Francisco to make 515 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 3: plays that it didn't. But that being said, I thought 516 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 3: this this game against the forty nine ers illustrated what 517 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 3: is possible when you don't hurt yourself with penalties and 518 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 3: you protect the football. Green Bay outlasted the forty nine ers. 519 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 3: They routed them, but they outlasted them. They were able 520 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 3: to maintain that throughout four quarters. A lot of guys 521 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 3: afterwards it was the buzzword among the media asking if 522 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 3: this was the most complete game that Green Bay has 523 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 3: played this season. You give it, put whatever narratives you 524 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 3: want on top of it, especially considering the state of 525 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 3: the opponent. But I just felt like the complimentary football 526 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 3: set of thing and looking at how the Packers were 527 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 3: able to transition and turn those point those takeaways into points. 528 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 3: That was the difference in that football game against the 529 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 3: forty nine ers. So you look at Miami's defense, it's 530 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 3: been very opportunistic at times this season. They will hurt 531 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 3: you with the interceptions if you allow them to. Green 532 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 3: Bay has to and Jordan Love has to protect the football. 533 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I certainly hope that the Packers stay as persistent 534 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 2: with the running game as they've been, and Josh Jacobs 535 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 2: is coming on a twenty six carry game, it's a 536 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: short week. He certainly looks no worse for where and 537 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 2: he will take the ball at anytime that Matt Lafleur wants 538 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 2: to give it to him. But I tell you, if 539 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 2: I'm a Manuel Wilson or Chris Brooks, I'm ready to 540 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 2: get the ball in this game as well, because the 541 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 2: last thing Matt Lafleuur wants to do is if Josh 542 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 2: Jacobs needs a breather and he has to come out 543 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: that now suddenly it's like, okay, well now the Packers 544 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 2: have to throw the ball. No, They're gonna want to 545 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 2: Manuel Wilson and Chris Brooks to be able to run 546 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 2: the ball and to continue whatever it is that Jacobs 547 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 2: establishes when he does need to come out and get 548 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 2: a breather, and hopefully the Packers can just keep things 549 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 2: going on the ground what they have shown recently. 550 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 3: I should say a word here about Chris Brooks because 551 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 3: for him this is obviously facing his former team in 552 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 3: the Miami Dolphins, a team that he had a lot 553 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 3: of success with as an undrafted free agent last year. 554 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 3: Has a concussion during training camp, gets injuries settled, and 555 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 3: now he's ends up here in Green Bay, the amount 556 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 3: of pony that we've seen this year, the amount of 557 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 3: the two running back packages we've seen this year in 558 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 3: the aftermath of the injuries to AJ Dillon and also 559 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 3: marsh Sean Lloyd. If you'd have told me the Packers 560 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 3: would be lining up in that as frequently as they 561 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 3: have been in the first half of the season, I 562 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 3: would have said, you are nuts, right, But that show 563 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 3: is not only the faith that they haven't Emmanuel Wilson, 564 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 3: but then for Chris Brooks to come in and he 565 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 3: had a tripping penalty that I'm sure he definitely wants back. 566 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 3: But by and large, his ability to pick up blitz, 567 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 3: his ability to run the football. There was some motioning 568 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 3: that was happening last week between him and Josh Jacobs, 569 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 3: and I think there was even a play where Jiden 570 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 3: Reid was in the backfield with him at one point. 571 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 3: Chris Brooks, dude, for being a guy that was not 572 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 3: here during training camp, his ability to function within this 573 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 3: offense and allow Green Bay to stay in their preferred packages. 574 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 3: He's another guy I don't think you could say enough 575 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 3: about him. Will be very critical in this matchup against 576 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 3: his former team. Yeah. 577 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Well, before we go looking around the league at 578 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: the most recent results very quickly. As we said, Packers 579 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: are eight and three, Detroit still on top of the 580 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 2: NFC North at ten to one, Minnesota in between Green 581 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 2: Bay and Detroit at nine and two. The Vikings end 582 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: up surviving a furious comeback by the Chicago Bears. The 583 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 2: Bears get at eleven points in the last thirty seconds 584 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 2: of regulation to force overtime, but then Minnesota wins in 585 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 2: ot one of just several crazy games in the early window. 586 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 2: On Sunday, Dallas and Washington played a wild one and 587 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 2: Dallas ends up getting the win. Kansas City needs a 588 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: walk off field goal to beat the Carolina Panthers down 589 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 2: in Charlotte, and the Houston Texans take a bad home 590 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 2: loss against the Tennessee Titans when Houston's kicker misses a 591 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 2: chip shot that should have forced overtime in that game, 592 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 2: I will say, since we're kind of calling each other 593 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 2: out and putting each other on blast, you kind of 594 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 2: dismissed my thought last week of watch to see how 595 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 2: Washington responds to getting steamrolled in the fourth quarter by 596 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,479 Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles, and you're like, well, it's the Dallas 597 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 2: Cowboys coming in Well, that's why just you can't always 598 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 2: dismiss that kind of stuff. Because Washington didn't respond well 599 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: to a really tough division loss where they got run 600 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,479 Speaker 2: over in the fourth quarter by Philly. They took a 601 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 2: bad home loss to the Dallas Cowboys, and which certainly 602 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 2: helps the Packers in the playoff picture that Washington now 603 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: has five losses. But Jayden Daniels a rookie quarterback, and 604 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: what's going on in Washington that's something to watch now 605 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 2: because they've dropped two in a row, and you know 606 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 2: the shine is coming off the Christmas ornament a little bit. 607 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, and looking at the Cowboys very quickly, 608 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 3: people want to really rip on Mike and everything that's 609 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 3: happened out there for him to build a winnable game 610 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 3: plan for Cooper Rush looking as good as he did 611 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 3: in that game, dowd Will becoming their featured back I 612 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 3: thought had one of his best games as well. You 613 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 3: tip your cap to him in that phase. Very odd 614 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 3: ending to it, but the Cowboys did what they had 615 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 3: to do to win. 616 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: Forty one points in the last nine minutes. 617 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 3: And then an on side kick that was returned for 618 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 3: a touchdown when it didn't matter. I mean, the thing 619 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 3: has just happened at the end of that game that 620 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 3: I have not quite understanding. 621 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, the Cowboy Cowboys picked up an onside 622 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 2: kick and ran it for a touchdown when you just 623 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 2: need to slide kneel the game out for a touchdown 624 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 2: and Jade and Daniels gets a shot at a hail 625 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 2: Mary on the final play because the Cowboys didn't just 626 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: take a stupid knee. It was just it is are 627 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 2: so many but bizarre things going on in that game. 628 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 2: But Washington, this is again, this is where you have 629 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 2: a young team, a different type of team, with a 630 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 2: lot of new pieces and and Daniel's having to be 631 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 2: the franchise guy. They're very interested to see how they respond. 632 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 2: Chicago Bears had one job they failed and this this 633 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 2: losing streak that they're on continues. By the way, have 634 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 2: you peaked at all at their schedule the Bear schedule 635 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 2: here the next month? 636 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: I know that. 637 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: I mean they they they still have they still have 638 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 2: both of their games left with Detroit. They haven't really 639 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 2: they haven't played the Lions. 640 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 3: So listen to this meat grinder. So they had they 641 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 3: lost three, they've lost five in a row. Out of 642 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 3: the by. They lost three in a row at home. 643 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 3: Here's what they now face at Detroit, at San Francisco, 644 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 3: at Minnesota, and then you come back against Detroit at home, 645 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 3: and then they wrap up against Seattle and they come 646 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 3: to Green Bay. Very very rough turn of events for 647 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 3: the Bears. 648 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: Bears. 649 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 2: Bears are sitting at four and seven in three games. 650 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 2: The the the game against Washington, the game against the Packers, 651 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 2: and now this last one against against the Vikings. Three 652 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 2: games they've lost on the final play of the game 653 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 2: when when they they had they had opportunities to win 654 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 2: and uh yeah, the I mean, you know, the Bears 655 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 2: got they got another field goal blocked early in that game, 656 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: which then I think influenced a decision to go for 657 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 2: it on a fourth and four instead of kicking a 658 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 2: field goal, you know, in like the third quarter. Just 659 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 2: all these all these things that then added up to 660 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 2: you know, they had another terrible special teams play where 661 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 2: the you know, the guy had the punt bounce off 662 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 2: his leg and the Vikings. 663 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: Recovered they end up getting a touchdown. 664 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 2: All these things that add up to, you know, they're 665 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 2: down by two scorers in in the last two minutes 666 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 2: and then they pull off this amazing you know, touchdown, 667 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 2: two point conversion, recover, the on side kick, the field 668 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: goal to get it to overtime, and they win the 669 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 2: toss in overtime yep. And then then they go three 670 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 2: and out. 671 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: The Vikings win the game anyway. 672 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 3: So yeah, and for Minnesota, it just Kevin O'Connell keeping 673 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 3: that team together, staying balanced. And you know, again, Josh 674 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 3: Jacobs has been a tremendous fine for Green Bay. He's 675 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 3: the right running back for this offense and a guy 676 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 3: that you can feed and he's durable. But Aaron Jones 677 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 3: is looking good too. Still had a fumble early in 678 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 3: that game, but they stuck with him and he showed 679 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 3: him to be right again in that instance. And you know, 680 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 3: Minnesota just keeps finding away. I did say this an 681 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 3: inbox and I do truly mean this, and we'll just 682 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 3: have to keep a pin in it the rest of 683 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 3: the season. But to me, this is starting to remind 684 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 3: me a lot of that twenty two team they had 685 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 3: where they won a lot of football games. Very curious 686 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 3: to see how high they're ceiling runs once you get 687 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 3: to the postseason. But they're beating the teams they have 688 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 3: to beat and I will close on this the statistic. 689 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 3: I don't know if it was Tom Fanning that found it, 690 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 3: but that's stat about how the green Bay Packers at 691 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 3: eight and three have the best records since I think 692 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 3: the merger in nineteen seventy at eight and three through 693 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 3: thirteen weeks of the season. But to still be in 694 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 3: the third place or worse within the division, that's never happened. 695 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 3: And again it just speaks to this division, how difficult 696 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 3: it is, how tight it is, and the fact that 697 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 3: of those handful of losses the North has, three of 698 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 3: them were doled out to each other. It's just it 699 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 3: is a wild, wild development and green Bay just has 700 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 3: to keep winning football games and trying to pick up 701 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 3: another intra conference game on Sunday. 702 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, three quarters of the NFC North playing on Thanksgiving, 703 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 2: with the Bears going to Detroit the Packers hosting Miami. 704 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 2: The only NFC North game to watch on Sunday when 705 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 2: the Packers are not playing will be Minnesota playing against Arizona. 706 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 3: Chaos theory. You and I we are already sitting here 707 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 3: calling ourselves out for some bad predictions. Is there any 708 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 3: chance the Chicago Bears, losers of five in a row 709 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 3: can go into Ford Field and win on Thanksgiving. 710 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 2: I don't I certainly don't like their chances, but I'm 711 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 2: not gonna I'm not gonna. 712 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 3: Give me a percentage. There's no there's no gambling in Bushwood. 713 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 3: But like, what, what do you think is for give 714 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 3: me a percentage that you think they can win? Straight up? 715 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: Twenty percent? 716 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 3: Okay, cool, let's see what happens. 717 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this, I mean, honestly, in a lot 718 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 2: of ways, this is this is a lot like where 719 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: Detroit was on Thanksgiving last year when the Packers came. 720 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 2: Packers were four and six at that time, the lines 721 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 2: I think were eight and two. Nobody really gave the 722 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 2: Packers a chance. They hadn't shown a whole heck of 723 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 2: a lot. The Bears in some ways have shown more 724 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 2: than the Packers showed last year at this time because 725 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 2: they've just lost some heartbreaking games that have led to 726 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 2: this four and seven records. 727 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 1: So, but but. 728 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 2: There's it just it feels like just everything, all the 729 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 2: all the the negativity going on with Eberflus right now, 730 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 2: head coach of the Bears. It just feels like it's 731 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 2: too it's too much to overcome. For the Bears to 732 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: start to put together a run here as close as 733 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 2: they've been in some of these games. 734 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 3: If you would have told me back in September that 735 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 3: we would get to Thanksgiving. It looks like Caleb Williams 736 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 3: is a player. Their defense is playing pretty well in 737 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 3: the fact that they are plus nine in turnover differential 738 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 3: right now in their four and seven. 739 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, plus nine, plus nine, But three games under five 740 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 2: hundred at Thanksgiving? 741 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 742 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 3: Do you know how far you have to go down 743 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 3: on the turnover differential to find a team without a 744 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 3: winning record other than Chicago? Like, it's like all the 745 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 3: way it's I think it's like La The Rams are 746 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,280 Speaker 3: like sixteen in turnover differential in our below five hundred. 747 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 3: It's wild. 748 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is kind of crazy. 749 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 2: Bear down, yeah, bear down indeed. 750 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 3: Well. 751 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 2: The home of the twenty twenty five NFL Draft is 752 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 2: right here in Green Bay, so don't miss any draft 753 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 2: action coming April twenty four through April twenty six of 754 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,720 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Visit green Bay dot com slash Draft 755 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 2: twenty five for more information. 756 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 3: Can I ask you one last question? 757 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 2: Sure? 758 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 3: Uh? Because we won't see each other for another week. 759 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 3: My coach yes, kind of in a way in the 760 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 3: chair in these chairs. Last week, I was quoted as 761 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 3: saying that Mike Tomlins from the NFL Coach of the Year, 762 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 3: which could still end up being the case. They had 763 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 3: took a bad loss to Cleveland. Dennis Crowsey had asked 764 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 3: me this question after they lost, So maybe it's still 765 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 3: Tomman who's the NFL Coach of the Year right now? 766 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: Oh boy, you're really putting me. 767 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 3: But see, I had the same exact response me on 768 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 3: the spot because I'm really opinionated on the Coach of 769 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 3: the Year stuff. You know, I always talk about it 770 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 3: being the ap makes it a flavor of the month competition. 771 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 2: Here's one. Here's one I'll throw out that not a 772 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 2: lot of people are talking about. Nick Sirianni maybe deserves. 773 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 3: That's a great pick. That's a great way. 774 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 2: I philed the way Philadelphia completely all apart at the 775 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 2: end of last season, and the way Nick Sirianni has 776 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 2: those Eagles playing right now after taking a couple of 777 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,720 Speaker 2: early season losses and now there's still half a dozen 778 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 2: games left in the regular season. Oh, for sure, a 779 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 2: ton of stuff can happen, But you're asking me that 780 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 2: question right now. That's kind of the that's kind of 781 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 2: the first one that pops into my eye. 782 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 3: It's just weird because like somebody had asked me this, 783 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 3: and I'm like everybody it's been you know, because it's like, okay, so, 784 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 3: well you so opinion on this who should be the 785 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 3: coach of the year. I'm like, well, me, personally, maybe 786 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 3: it should just be who the best teams are and 787 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 3: then that's where you pull from. But like all the 788 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,439 Speaker 3: people that they wanted to put it on, like Dan Quinn, well. 789 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, now that's your thing. Now, Washington suddenly lost two 790 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 2: in a row. Yeah, everybody's wondering what's up with them? 791 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 2: So Jim Harbaugh, they lost again. 792 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 3: Now like yeah, anyway, I wanted to ask you that 793 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 3: because otherwise we're never going to talk about it. 794 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 2: So well, well let's let's revisit. Yeah when that's a 795 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 2: good pick. So with that, we'll call it a rap 796 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 2: on this edition of Packers Unscript. To be sure to 797 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 2: follow all of our coverage of Thursday night's big game 798 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 2: at lambeau Field between the Packers and the Dolphins. Will 799 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 2: have it all for you on Packers dot com. For 800 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,240 Speaker 2: wes I and Mike, thank you for tuning in. Happy 801 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving everybody, and we will see you next time.