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Speaker 1: tops of free agency stuff, some pro day stuff. Jeffrey Lurie,

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Speaker 1: Chris Mortenson said his dead set on Jalen Hurts being

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Speaker 1: go through the college quarterbacks, at least the guys getting

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Speaker 1: sometimes the podcast gods throw your bone, and uh, I

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Speaker 1: can't wait for free agency to get here. I can't

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Speaker 1: I got thrown a bone. Breaking news right as I'm

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Speaker 1: recording the podcast. Dak Prescott a k A Dakota Prescott

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Speaker 1: has signed a long term deal four years, hundred sixty

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Speaker 1: million dollars. Here's the key, A hundred and twenty six

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Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed. Schefter writes the first three years averages

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Speaker 1: forty two million dollars. Jerry Jones once said, I've never

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Speaker 1: had a problem paying a premium for a premium and listen.

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Speaker 1: I like Dak Prescott. I like everything he stands for.

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Speaker 1: I like his game. I just don't view him as

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Speaker 1: a forty million dollar quarterback. My first reaction is it's

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Speaker 1: kind of sucking nuts. I like franchise tagging him because

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Speaker 1: it gave me wiggle room. Now I'm stuck with this

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Speaker 1: guy as my quarterback. As we just saw multiple contemporaries

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Speaker 1: that both teams within a year or two of those

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Speaker 1: deals being signed, immediately wanted to pivot. It just happened

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Speaker 1: in front of Jerry's eyes. Now I do understand he

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to pay thirty seven million dollars the cap

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Speaker 1: hit this season, but the cap hits are gonna be

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Speaker 1: huge when you factor in this type money. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of cash to give a guy. I have no

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Speaker 1: say it over and over and over again. Do it again.

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Speaker 1: I would not extend Josh Allen this offseason. I say

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Speaker 1: the same thing with Lamar. I am not extending Lamar

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Speaker 1: need more information if I'm gonna invest this type money.

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Speaker 1: What did Jerry learn last year they didn't know the

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Speaker 1: think Dak Prescott is a good player, and you can

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Speaker 1: compete with Dak Prescott. Is he a great player? No?

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Speaker 1: which I got no issue with it. But he's a

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Speaker 1: And you never wish you'd get away from Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: never wish I see it with Steph Curry. You don't

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Speaker 1: so many other contracts and sports that the team immediately regrets,

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Speaker 1: really does. Like I just I can't fathom giving a

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Speaker 1: There are only a small percentage of great quarterbacks. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I'm missing out to Shaun Watts and too, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: Though he was on a terrible team. I know he

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Speaker 1: has am I winning with Dak at forty million dollars

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Speaker 1: the big winners of this. I get the NFC E stinks,

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Speaker 1: McCarthy just might not be a good coach for all

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Speaker 1: oh my god, security Colin said he got fifty million

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Speaker 1: dollars off the field. He made thirty two million dollars.

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Speaker 1: So alone, he's at eighty plus million dollars and he

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Speaker 1: I just I I can't. I can't get behind this move.

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Speaker 1: I just I can't. I think it's an overpay of overpace.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you pay great or when you pay

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Speaker 1: It happens over and over and over again. When you

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Speaker 1: You guys were losing. I came here, we started kicking ass.

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Speaker 1: I'd be licking my lips. If I was his agent,

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Speaker 1: I'd be like, Lamar, We're gonna get so much money.

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Speaker 1: It's stupid, Josh Allen. Right now, if they are thinking

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Speaker 1: is Dakota Prescott. And I've heard this before. It's been written.

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Speaker 1: Other general managers and other teams are often not happy

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Speaker 1: Kurt Wheels down the street. WHOA. I'd be screaming so

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Speaker 1: to re embrace a long range philosophy that resulted in

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Speaker 1: a Lombardi Trophy. Jalen Hurt showed promise energize the team

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Speaker 1: in only four games. Many owners share vision, especially when

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Speaker 1: it comes to quarterback. Do you think the Carson Wentz

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Speaker 1: This is Morton's tweets? Do you think the Carson went

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Speaker 1: scenario unfolds without Larry's input? Lurie wants staff to build

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Speaker 1: around Hurts and see if he's the see if he's

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Speaker 1: the guy, but other veteran quarterbacks can be added. There's

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Speaker 1: been some opinions expressed that the Eagles should draft by

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Speaker 1: U Zack Wilson. As of now, that would mean offering

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Speaker 1: major compensation to get in that second slot, using the

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Speaker 1: type of draft capital that is necessary to replenish the roster.

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Speaker 1: So it's pretty clear, and I think an underrated attribute

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Speaker 1: in the NFL that doesn't get talked about a lot.

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Speaker 1: We always the fans do it. I'm guilty to. Our

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Speaker 1: natural reaction is to crush a coach or at GM

441
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Speaker 1: that idiot, what how did he take that guy? And

442
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Speaker 1: we don't often factor in that there is a guy

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Speaker 1: sitting right next to him that signs all their checks,

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Speaker 1: who's worth billions of dollars in all these organizations, who

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Speaker 1: who owns the team, and at any moment's notice, can

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Speaker 1: say I want that guy. I want to do that,

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Speaker 1: and listen, it's easy to go. If I was an owner,

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Speaker 1: I would just hire the best guys and let them

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Speaker 1: do stuff. Yet all of us, myself included, have sit

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Speaker 1: on our couch and have ideas well, why would the

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Speaker 1: guy who is in charge of the entire operation, who

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Speaker 1: owns the team, who has all the money, not occasionally

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Speaker 1: I want to give his input? And I think it's

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Speaker 1: pretty clear that last year, and like Mortenson kind of

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Speaker 1: alludes to, under no circumstances would they have traded Carson

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Speaker 1: Wentz without Jeffrey Lourie's blessing. I actually don't think it's

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Speaker 1: even possible that Carson Wentz is traded without Jeffrey Lurie

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Speaker 1: wanting him gone. I had someone in the Eagles a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago, tell me that Jeffrey Lourie viewed

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz as a son. Love the guy. Clearly gave

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Speaker 1: him the biggest contract in the history of the franchise

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Speaker 1: despite him being injured. So as much as Howie or

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Speaker 1: Doug or any of those guys liked him, without Jeffrey

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Speaker 1: being on board, it does not happen. Say what trading

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Speaker 1: up to get him, Jeffrey had to be on board. Well,

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Speaker 1: think about last year, the Carson situation had started getting weird.

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Speaker 1: The playoff game had happened, which was kind of freakish.

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Speaker 1: She had the concussion, but it was just it added

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Speaker 1: to everyone the speculation of like, can this guy stay

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Speaker 1: healthy even though for the first time basically since his

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Speaker 1: rookie year he played all sixteen games, And they draft

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Speaker 1: a second round quarterback. Do you think in a million

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Speaker 1: years in the NFL in two thousand and twenty, you're

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Speaker 1: drafting a quarterback in the second round without the owner

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Speaker 1: not only giving his blessing but being on board and

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Speaker 1: actually wanting it to happen. To me, it was pretty clear.

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Speaker 1: And you guys know, if you've listened to the show

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Speaker 1: for a while, I'm not a Jalen hurt Sky. To me,

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Speaker 1: he's a running back, or at least that's what I

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Speaker 1: viewed him as coming out of college. I'll be the

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Speaker 1: first to agree with anyone. He actually looked pretty good

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Speaker 1: in moments in those four games that he played, had

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Speaker 1: some bad moments, had some good moments, better than I thought.

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Speaker 1: I still am not a believer I would not do that.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. I'm lucky enough to know people

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Speaker 1: in pretty powerful positions in the league, and they will

487
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Speaker 1: tell you the most powerful thing to own around draft

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Speaker 1: time our second and third round picks. Why because those

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Speaker 1: are the best bang for your buck. Because if you

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Speaker 1: hit on a player in the second or third round,

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Speaker 1: a DK metcalf uh and A J. Brown, a Fred Warner,

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Speaker 1: Deshan Jackson, Lasham. I mean a million players over the

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Speaker 1: decades have come out of the second and third rounds.

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Speaker 1: Do you know how cheap those guys are for for

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Speaker 1: all star level players, all pro level players, impact level

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Speaker 1: starters for three and four years. I mean, you have

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Speaker 1: him under contract for four years, you obviously can extend

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Speaker 1: him after the third year. It's a very very powerful

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Speaker 1: thing to happen, and there is no better deal in

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Speaker 1: sports than having a quarterback who starts for your team

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Speaker 1: who's drafted after the first round because he's really cheap.

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Speaker 1: So from an economic standpoint, it makes sense to see

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Speaker 1: if this guy can play, whether we think he's good

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Speaker 1: or not. He's on their roster. They used the second

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Speaker 1: round pick on him, and in fairness to the to

506
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Speaker 1: the player showed some promise. Now, as Mortenson was tweeting,

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Speaker 1: there is not you you know, you nan missdecision inside

508
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Speaker 1: the building that he's the guy there couldn't be. He's

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Speaker 1: too polarizing of a player and just they're just gonna

510
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Speaker 1: be people that don't believe in the guy. Right. I'm

511
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Speaker 1: sure many people listening like, God, I think it's pretty

512
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Speaker 1: crazy they're doing this, but they are. And I understand

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Lewis point, Well, let's just see because he actually

514
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Speaker 1: if he is good and I don't mean he's never

515
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Speaker 1: gonna be a top fight player, but can he be

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Speaker 1: a top fifteen quarterback? Again, I'm not saying I believe

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Speaker 1: he can. I would bet against that for sure, but

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Speaker 1: if he's on your roster, you might as well check

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Speaker 1: it out. And this is my issue with second round quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: My theory has been. I'm not doing it because the

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Speaker 1: last decade there's been like two. They're good, like Derek

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Speaker 1: Carr and Jimmy Garoppolo. Andy Dalton had some moments. Kaepernick

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Speaker 1: had some moments. Obviously got blackballed or whatever, but before

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Speaker 1: he did, he was not playing very well at all.

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Speaker 1: They're just very hit or miss. And even Derek Carr's

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Speaker 1: had up and downs. Jimmy Garoppolo has had up and downs.

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalgons had up and downs. But the pressure of

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Speaker 1: the second round quarterback brings is like the pressure from

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Speaker 1: the fans and the outside. It's like, oh, he's gotta

530
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Speaker 1: be the starter, franchise guy. You see it right now

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Speaker 1: Denver with Drew Lock. There's a lot of pressure on

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Speaker 1: a second round quarterback because they kind of have this

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Speaker 1: eleph in the room, like they have the borderline of

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Speaker 1: first round quarterback. They should be a franchise guy or

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Speaker 1: see if they can be a franchise guy, even though

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Speaker 1: there's a reason they follow the second round. But every

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Speaker 1: once in a while they do hit right a Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 1: a Deck I mean those guys a third and fourth,

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Speaker 1: But you get the point. But the great part about

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Speaker 1: even drafted a guy in the third or fourth there's

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Speaker 1: not the same pressure as the second. So there is

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Speaker 1: internal pressure, clearly from the owner. He's the boss. I

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Speaker 1: don't blame him. If I owned an NFL team, you

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Speaker 1: think I was like, yeah, draft whoever you want. No,

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Speaker 1: I'd be watching college football. I would just Hey, give

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Speaker 1: me the highlights of the top fifty guys in the draft.

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Speaker 1: I check them out. We all would. If you love football,

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Speaker 1: you owned the team. It's easy to be an absentee

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Speaker 1: owner that those guys don't. And there's too much money

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Speaker 1: in the line right now. Now you and say, you know, John,

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Speaker 1: you gotta hire the best guys and let him cook. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in theory, that's easy to say. And then you start

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Speaker 1: having the biggest office in the building and you realize

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Speaker 1: your names at the bottom of the check. You're like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think I know football because like it's

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Speaker 1: this isn't rocket science. You can learn and figure it out.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's right. I think he's wrong on this,

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Speaker 1: but I get where he's coming from. I understand, like,

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Speaker 1: let's just see if this guy can play, because he's here,

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Speaker 1: you know all the you know, is he good enough?

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Speaker 1: Let's find out because we have him on a cheap

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Speaker 1: deal and maybe in a couple of years we can

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Speaker 1: build this team because we don't have to spend that

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Speaker 1: much on the quarterback. We just had a high price

565
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Speaker 1: guy who wasn't playing that well and it screwed us.

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Speaker 1: Now we have a guy who we don't know if

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Speaker 1: he's good, but he's cheap. Now where it could buy

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Speaker 1: him in the ass is if they do pass on

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Speaker 1: the quarterback and take a skill guy, take an offensive

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Speaker 1: line and do whatever with the six overall pick and

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Speaker 1: a guy they pass on. Or let's say they do

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Speaker 1: a trade like trade with the Niners, and the Niners

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Speaker 1: come up and get Justin Fields and that guy goes

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Speaker 1: on to be a really good player and Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 1: does not. It's hard to shake that. At least it's

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Speaker 1: out there now. Though this is on the owner right,

577
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Speaker 1: like Carson Wentz when he gets traded to the Colts.

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Speaker 1: If Carson Wentz is unreal, the Eagles are gonna get crushed.

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia is gonna be pissed. Fairer not. That's just the

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Speaker 1: reality of the situation. But back to what I said,

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Speaker 1: there is no chance Carson Wentz is traded without the

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Speaker 1: owner wanting him gone. And I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: times what owners are smart about is like, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I pay my general manager three or four million dollars.

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Speaker 1: He takes all the heat. My fans just talk about

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Speaker 1: him being a village idiot when things go wrong, and

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Speaker 1: I don't take that much heat, even though I think

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Speaker 1: in a lot of these organizations, these owners are way

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Speaker 1: more hands on than you can even fathom. But it's

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Speaker 1: not gonna like these teams are not gonna leak unless

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Speaker 1: it's Dan Snyder and everyone hates him how much they're

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Speaker 1: owner medals. And when I say metal, I just mean like,

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Speaker 1: you have a board and maybe the owner says, what

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Speaker 1: about this? What's hard to just kind of be like, no, Mr, whoever,

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Speaker 1: that's stupid. Are you gonna say that to the guy

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Speaker 1: who's paying you millions? It's stuff spot to be in.

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Speaker 1: It really is. And football, you know, if you're around

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Speaker 1: it long enough, and a lot of these owners now

599
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Speaker 1: have been in the league twenty thirty years, you're gonna think,

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Speaker 1: you know, you watch all these games, you're around your team,

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Speaker 1: you know what works, you know what doesn't. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: have whether it's a false sense or just a sense

603
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: that you know probably more than you actually do, and

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Speaker 1: you can get yourself in trouble. But I understand from

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Speaker 1: an economic standpoint why Jeffrey Lourie would want to do this. Now,

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Speaker 1: I understand maybe Jeffrey thought like, let's see if Carson

607
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: could handle the competition. Clearly he couldn't so and then

608
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: he fell apart and they chipped him out. But I think,

609
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Speaker 1: regardless of what happens this year with the Eagles, Howie

610
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: and the coach are gonna get destroyed. I think it's

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Speaker 1: pretty clear that the owner right now is kind of

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Speaker 1: pulling a lot of the strings. Let's do a little

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Speaker 1: rapid fire college quarterback talk. I'm just gonna go through

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Speaker 1: the guys and just some things that I'm hearing negatively

615
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: or positive of it. Lee about the player, obviously, the

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Speaker 1: guy who's gonna go number one overall, it's set in stone.

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Speaker 1: He's been the number one overall pick for several years.

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. I don't think it wastes that much time

619
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Speaker 1: us even talking about the guy. Now I've been on record.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a little overhyped in the sense of

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Speaker 1: he's being compared to John Elway, and Andrew Luck, and

622
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Speaker 1: like Peyton Manning, the chances that he lives up to that,

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Speaker 1: to me seems pretty slim. People forget Andrew Luck was

624
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Speaker 1: the number one pick in the draft for the next

625
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: year's team made the playoff as a wild card. For

626
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: three straight years they made the playoffs, and every year

627
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Speaker 1: they got farther in the playoff rounds, Like that happened?

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Speaker 1: Is that gonna? Is Trevor Lawrence have that in the bag?

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Speaker 1: I get it. He's really physically gifted. He's a great athlete.

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Speaker 1: He's got a good arm, he's accurate. Everyone views them.

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Speaker 1: It feels like on the outside, and people I know

632
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Speaker 1: in the league is like, I can't miss prospect. He's

633
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Speaker 1: gonna go number one overall. And then we'll judge, because

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Speaker 1: you know what can't miss prospects? Do they dominate their

635
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: historically great players. We'll see. The pressure is on him.

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Speaker 1: The pressure on Trevor Lawrence is immense. The only reason

637
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Speaker 1: there's not that much pressure is because we don't really

638
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 1: pay attention to the Jacksonville Jaguars. Now Urban Meyer brings

639
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: more pressure, but let's face it, they're a little bit

640
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: of an under the radar team. Zack Wilson, who I

641
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: saw Chris Simms had as his number one quarterback in

642
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 1: this draft class, ahead of Trevor Lawrence. And I've seen

643
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: some people that cover the draft and talk to different

644
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: teams say that they've talked to teams that have Zack

645
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Speaker 1: Wilson ahead of Trevor Lawrence. I don't know any of

646
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: those teams, but I don't believe. I do think there's

647
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: a chance that exists. I also think it's easy for

648
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: a team drafting in the twenties, a team that's never

649
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 1: going to touch him to do that. It doesn't really

650
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: matter the number one knock. I've heard from people that

651
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: have evaluated Zack Wilson, and I watched a lot of

652
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: Zack Wilson this year, and I think I've talked about

653
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 1: it on this show before. He weighs two hundred pounds

654
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: two pounds. Smallest quarterback in the league is like Kyler Murray,

655
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: who weighs two pounds, and it's like a block of

656
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: muscle who's five eight. Zach Wilson isn't very big. Also,

657
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: his level of competition, he had one great year check

658
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: by you schedule pretty crappy. Now he made some remarkable

659
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: place if you watched him play, it was awesome. He's

660
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: making sidearm throws, he's scrambling around, he's throwing dimes. His

661
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: highlight package this year was fantastic. He has excellent tape

662
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: against lower level competition. That's not arguable. Not his fault

663
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: because b y U was scheduled to play a bunch

664
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: of Pack twelve teams are scheduled typically is loaded, but

665
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: because of Corona, the Pack twelve didn't play any conference

666
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: or nonconference games. They had to schedule all these crappy

667
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: teams and he kicked their ass and he was awesome.

668
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: But I do think his size, you know, some people

669
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: question it. They don't even question it, they just they're

670
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: not comfortable with it. There are also some questions about

671
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: his maturity the first two years. I think this year,

672
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Speaker 1: when he played well, people liked him a lot and

673
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: he he he did a good job in the program

674
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: as a leader. But the first two years there were

675
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: question marks there. That exists, and the scouting community and

676
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 1: the g ms and the coach just have to ask

677
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: themselves and when they deal with him, is he a

678
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: new guy? Is he more mature moving forward? That's kind

679
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: of the elephant in the room with him. Justin Fields,

680
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: the upside is through the roof right. He is six

681
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: three and a half. He can run, He's got a

682
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: huge arm. We saw some of those throws he made

683
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Speaker 1: in the playoff game. The thing I like about the

684
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: guy the most is that when the season, when the

685
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: media was trying to end the season like no Big ten,

686
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: they're they're doing the great thing them in the back twelve.

687
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: The SEC is putting their players at harms away. Justin

688
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: Fields was the most outspoken player that said, fuck this,

689
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: I want to play. The media, they don't get to

690
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: dictate whether I play or not. I want to play.

691
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: I was like, I like this kid. I hadn't really

692
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: watched him play that much. I immediately became a fan

693
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: because everyone's like, oh, just canceled the season. He's like,

694
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: screw that, that's your problem. I want to play. So

695
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: do all my teammates and all my coaches. And they did.

696
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: And he was a little hit or miss, and I

697
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: know Mel Kuyper talked about it. He went on this

698
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: long ramp that a lot of people say that he

699
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: doesn't anticipate that. Well. I look at Justin Fields a

700
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: lot like Josh Allen a lot like Justin Herbert, there

701
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: is a reason. So it's like, you know, he doesn't

702
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: see some things, he doesn't anticipate these throws. Well, what

703
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: am I paying my head coach ten million dollars for? What?

704
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: Am I paying my offensive coordinator? One point five million

705
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: dollars for what am I paying my quarterback coach? That

706
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: is the price of what guys making the league. Now

707
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm paying all these coaches all this money coach this

708
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: guy up. Because I saw it with Josh Allen. I

709
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: saw it last year with Justin Herbert. Is once they

710
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: got in the league, their physical skills translated. And here's

711
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: what I know about Justin Fields. His physical skills translate.

712
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: Does he need some work? Of course he does. That

713
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: is why we're paying all these coaches all this money.

714
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: Coach these guys up. Once upon a time, Andy Reid

715
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: and Brett Beats, they looked at Patrick Mahomes. They go,

716
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: we can work with this. Sean McDermott said, we want

717
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: that in Josh Allen. You gotta have you gotta have

718
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: a little bit of a vision. Right. We're not talking

719
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: about a thirty year old free agent. This is not

720
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: a finished product. You're talking about two year old, super

721
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 1: high character, a guy that refused to not play even

722
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: when the mainstream media desperately wanted to cancel the season.

723
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: He basically gave him double middle fingers. The only presidents

724
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: of the university had tapped out. He refused, I can't

725
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: have any more admiration for the guy in his mindset,

726
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: and then he was kind of hit or MR During

727
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: the season. It was tough, right, Big Ten's good. That

728
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: game that he had in the playoffs was awesome, and

729
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: then the National Championship wasn't that great? Played Alabama? But

730
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: you can't tell me there's not a lot to work

731
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: with their But he is a project, feels strong, but

732
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 1: he's closer to a project than a finished product. Mac Jones.

733
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Speaker 1: My philosophy is pretty is. I was a big pocket

734
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: quarterback like any human being over the last couple of decades. Right,

735
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: it's what you wanted. I wanted to Tom Brady. I

736
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 1: wanted an Eli Manning, a Peyton Manning, of Philip Rivers.

737
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Speaker 1: Those are the type quarterbacks winning in the league. Then

738
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: the game changed. The offensive lineman coming into the NFL,

739
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: we're not the same the defensive lineman. I heard Greg

740
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: Olsen tell Colin Coward. This, he said. The biggest difference

741
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: now in the NFL is when I first came in

742
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 1: the league in like oh seven, o eight, every team

743
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: had like one sweet defensive lineman. Right, you play the

744
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: Giants they had Michael Strahan, You'd play the Patriots they

745
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: had Richard Seymour, You'd play whoever they had one sweet player.

746
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: He's like the last three or four years, most teams

747
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: have several guys. The defensive lineman have come in to

748
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: the league at a faster pace than the offensive lineman.

749
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: It's basics supply demand. So these quarterbacks, now why athleticism

750
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: is important because I can't block these defensive linemen. So

751
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: I need athletic quarterbacks because the offensive lineman, Like ten, fifteen,

752
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, there were better offensive lineman consistently come

753
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: in the league and sweet defensive lineman. That is not

754
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: the case anymore. So I am a big believer. I

755
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 1: need my quarterback to be athletic. Now, as you see,

756
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: Tom Brady still plays at a really high level. I

757
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: would say he's a little bit of an outlier. The

758
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: knock on mac Jones is he can't really move. He

759
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: is not an athlete, definitely compared to the Trevor Lawrencezack Wilson,

760
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: Justin Fields and treye Lands. He can't hold their jock

761
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: in terms of moving around. That's not his deal. His

762
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 1: play is really Matt Ryan Now, I like Mac Jones.

763
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: I'd say most people that washed the play had to

764
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: come away thinking he's pretty good. DeVante Smith, Jalen Waddle.

765
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 1: They keep saying this guy is better Intua. My issue

766
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: with him in the NFL's issue with him is is

767
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: he is he a stiff? And am I going to

768
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: get into a position like Jared Goff? Jared Goff can't move,

769
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: so when your offensive line is not good, he's sitting

770
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: duck and then he doesn't have a great arm and

771
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: part of playing Alabama. I think the question is he

772
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: was on an All Star team. Will that translate? I

773
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: don't know. I think that's what everyone's trying to ask themselves.

774
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: Is he just a great player or is he a

775
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: product of the greatness around him? I don't know the answer.

776
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: I I would lean I'm just out on guys that

777
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: can't move in two Maybe things are cyclical and things

778
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: come back, but right now, I don't know if I

779
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: could pull the trigger on a guy who's just who

780
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: can't he plays alive with his legs. I just that's

781
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: not the way the league's going. Trey Lance obviously only

782
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: started one season. They played a game this year. I'm

783
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: not even counting it. It's not even fair to his

784
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: one season. He was awesome. I don't think it's a

785
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: pick the knock that I've heard from people who have

786
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: studied him really closely. He's got a hitty release right

787
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 1: part of being a quarterback and a good quarterback prospect.

788
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: One of the number one things we talked about in

789
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: a draft meeting is how fast does he get rid

790
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: of the ball? Like the cream of the crop is

791
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: like Damn Marino who gets rid of the ball instantly,

792
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, right, they have a flick of the wrist,

793
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 1: it's gone. Zack Wilson actually has a very very quick release.

794
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: Guys in the NFL, like you know, Derek car can

795
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: get rid of the ball fast, obviously, Tom can, Like

796
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: I need to get the ball in and out of

797
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: your hand quickly. We're talking milliseconds determined first downs, touchdowns,

798
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: or punts. That's that's the margin for error in the league.

799
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: And I watched some highlights of him. It does look

800
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: a little hitchy. Now again back to what I said

801
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: about justin fields, is I pay my coaches all this money.

802
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: What I'm asking them is can we coach this out

803
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 1: of him? Or is And I've never played quarterback besides

804
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: just throwing a ball in a yard. So if you're

805
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: a quarterback listening, obviously we've watched a lot of quarterbacks,

806
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: I'd argue muscle memory is hard to change. Like your

807
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: muscle memory with an arm throwing the ball, I think

808
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: it works in golf with your golf swing. When pressure

809
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: is on, you typically resort back to that. It was

810
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 1: the knock. I'm not saying. I'm not comparing Trey Lance

811
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: to Tim Tebow. He's a better prospect. Remember the big

812
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: knock on he Bow? Beside his arm strength wasn't great,

813
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: was his loopy release. And it's like, we can coach

814
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: that out of him, And the simple reality is you

815
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: can't because under pressure, which most NFL snaps are, you

816
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 1: resort back. Your muscle memory just does what it naturally

817
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: is used to doing, and it goes back to the

818
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 1: loopy release. So that to me is a question mark

819
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: that is just kind of unanswered because he hasn't really

820
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: played that much, and he's coming from a really small school.

821
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Speaker 1: So there are questions like I don't think they are

822
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: really question marks on Trevor Lawrence mile And the question

823
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: is is the overhype, but it's it's relevant. He's gonna

824
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: note go number one overall the next crew of guys,

825
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: Like I think if you went into ten different NFL buildings,

826
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: you probably have different rankings in all of them. There's

827
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: probably ten different rankings all over the league on these quarterbacks.

828
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: One team has Mac Jones, second, one team has Trey

829
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 1: Lance second, one team has Zack Wilson fourth, One team

830
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: has what it's gonna be in the eye of the

831
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: beholder and the eye of what I can do for

832
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: this what we can project him to do under our coaching.

833
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: Because that's how you have to think about all these guys.

834
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: They're all work in progress. Beside quote unquote Trevor Lawrence, right,

835
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: They're all gonna be guys that are gonna need development.

836
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 1: And as we know, like in the modern day NFL,

837
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: there is no going Carson palm are sitting for a year,

838
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: even Mahomes Like typically you get drafted high in the

839
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: first round, you're playing your your starter immediately Day one,

840
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: and uh, it's just gonna some of these quarterbacks are

841
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 1: gonna bust more than likely of the five of them.

842
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: And Kellen Mond, he's a name that's out there, kind

843
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: of feels like a late riser. I don't really have

844
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: that much information. I'm gonna have to do a little

845
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: more work on him. But if Lawrence Wilson fields Jones Lance,

846
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: I'd say the likelihood out of the five of them,

847
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: one of you know, maybe two of them are Pro

848
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: Bowl level players, probably just based on the stats. Three

849
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: of them are gonna be One of them is gonna

850
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: be an epic failure. Two of them are gonna be

851
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: average at best, you know, like Trabisky. Just the way

852
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: the NFL works. And that's the cool part about the

853
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: draft is leading into it, and then even leading into

854
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: when they start first play is all optimism. It's all

855
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: what could be? And then we start getting tangible information.

856
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: Can you do stuff? Can he not do stuff? And

857
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: really you don't learn for a couple of years what

858
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: his true limitations are. Right, it's fun part about talking quarterbacks.

859
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: Okay Middlecoff mail back at John Middlecoff as the Instagram

860
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: handle fire up in those d MS as my guy

861
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: Michael just did. And because as I opened my d

862
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 1: M S, his d M popped up. I'm gonna read

863
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: him first. What the hell did Jerry win in that negotiation?

864
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: DAC got the short deal, forty million a year, massive guarantees.

865
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 1: What was Jerry going for. I don't see a single

866
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: thing Jerry got that he wanted except that Dad is

867
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: a cowboy and he doesn't have to uh see his

868
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: once girlfriend happy with another dude. I like the analogy.

869
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: It's a hell of a question. That's a player only

870
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: win unless Dak Prescott becomes an m v P level player. Uh.

871
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 1: I just I don't see it. So that's a huge

872
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: win for DAC and his representation. You know, the media

873
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 1: kept telling me it's like, oh, you know, he doesn't

874
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: have any money. It feels so bad for him. Well,

875
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: he just made thirty plus million dollars last year, like

876
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: he that's not poor, and now he's really rich. And

877
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: I got no problem with the guy getting money. I

878
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: just when you're talking from a team building standpoint, you

879
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: gotta be careful about given the wrong contract to the

880
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: wrong guy. Now I think he's the right guy as

881
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: a person. I just questioned his football ability, like, is

882
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: he ever gonna be a top five quarterback in the NFL,

883
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: Because if he's not, then you're in trouble when you're

884
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: paying him this type money. Justin Fields or Jack Wilson.

885
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: I'm seeing a lot of people pick Wilson Overfields, which

886
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: I find interesting. Consider Fields outstanding body of work against

887
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: better competition. Yeah, I mean, I'm going Justin Fields to me,

888
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: Justin Fields my second favorite quarterback in this class because

889
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm looking at him like a project with the highest

890
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: upside and if he can get to a coach that

891
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing right a little. I'm not comparing

892
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: him to my homes. I don't think Justin Fields, but

893
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: if Justin Fields can get to a Kyle Shanahan can

894
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: get to uh, you know, uh Sean Payton, I think

895
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: the upside is through the roof, I really do. And

896
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: I just I'm not into smaller players. I like my

897
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: guy I like I like big Thoroughbreds. I like my

898
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: guys to look like Josh Allen. I like my guys

899
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: to look like Justin Herbert. I like my guys to

900
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 1: walk through the room and look like Peyton Manning, Tom Brady.

901
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: It's a big boy league because you've got big boys

902
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: chasing after you. I like my guys to be big.

903
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: It's my issue with Kyler Murray. I like Kyler Murray.

904
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: I think it's his physical skill set is fantastic. I

905
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: don't want my quarterback to be eight. You know, what

906
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: do you think about this three team trade? Forty Niners

907
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: get Derek Carr, the Patriots get Jimmy Garoppolo, The Raiders

908
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: get the forty Niners two thousand, twenty one first round

909
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: pick the Patriots two thousand, twenty one round pick. So

910
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: that's picked thirteen and pick or pick twelve and fifteen.

911
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 1: Hear me out. D c would thrive under Kyle Shanahan,

912
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: so the forty Niners can justify sending a first round

913
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: pick for him. And I don't get the impression that

914
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: Kyle wants to be bothered with the rookie quarterback. A

915
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: first rounder is probably a massive overpay for Jimmy Garoppolo,

916
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: But if there's any team that thinks he's good, as

917
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: the Patriots, Bill always dreamed of Jimmy as his quarterback.

918
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: To agree that he was a Steve Young and he's

919
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: desperate to win. Agreed, So drafting a rookie quarterback doesn't

920
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: seem my deal for New England. That would also give

921
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: the Raiders three picks in this year's first round. They

922
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 1: could package all three picks along with next year's first

923
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,240
Speaker 1: round pick to Land, either to Shaun Watson or Russell Wilson.

924
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: Just curious to get your opinion on that. Well. I

925
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: don't think Jimmy Garoppolo is worth a first round pick,

926
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: even with the Patriots being desperate, because the Patriots traded

927
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo to the Niners when he was a better

928
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,720
Speaker 1: unknown for a second, and I'd say his stock is lower.

929
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: But I think you're kind of onto something. Uh. I

930
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 1: think that Russell Wilson by far makes the most sense

931
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 1: with the Raiders. I don't think he makes sense anywhere else. Obviously,

932
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 1: the Cowboys now are not an option. Peter King wrote,

933
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: the Bears don't have a snowballs chance in hell, and

934
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: neither of the Saints. To me, If Russell Wilson is

935
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: gonna stick to that list, his only option is the Raiders.

936
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: But I don't see why the Raiders would even do

937
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: a deal with a three way deal. Why wouldn't they

938
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: just do a deal straight up with Seattle. Because if

939
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm Seattle and I want Russell, if I want to

940
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: trade Russell Wilson the Raiders, I want Derek Carr back.

941
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: If I'm here's the thing with Seattle and I think

942
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: there's a decent chance Russell gets traded, you cannot trade.

943
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: It's not one of those things like, you know, broke

944
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: up my girlfriend. I'm just I'm just gonna hit the

945
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: open market. See what happens. That happens a lot, right

946
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 1: or vice versa girlfriend dumps you, she just needs some time.

947
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: We hit the open market. You don't do that with

948
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: a quarterback, you know, just like we'll get rid of

949
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, best player that hits through the franchise Hall

950
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 1: of Famer, We'll just figure it out. That's not gonna

951
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: happen to me. If I'm Seattle, I want Derek Carr.

952
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: I would take but I mean I think he would

953
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: be good with Kyle. What would the Browns realistic get,

954
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: realistically get for Beckham Jr. I think for oh b J.

955
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: With his contract, probably get like a third rounder. He's

956
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: coming off in a c L. He hasn't been that productive,

957
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: even though he did show signs of greatness last year.

958
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: Uh Najoku pretty sure he's in the last year of

959
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: his contract, is a pretty talented guy. Feels like they've

960
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: been trying to trade him for years. I got a

961
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: red flag on that guy. I think all these guys

962
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: go for second or third round picks. If I personally

963
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: I used to love Odell Beckham Jr. Coming off in

964
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: a c L, I'd probably willing to trade like a

965
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: fourth round pick, a little like Randy Moss at the Raiders,

966
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: and maybe I get a bounce back a year or

967
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: two from him, but i'd be I'd be pretty leary

968
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: right now. And what are your best sites for mock drafts?

969
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: That's a great question. I don't really I mean Twitter,

970
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: I just I get him forwarded me. I'm not a

971
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: huge draft guy. Kind of sounds crazy, but people forward be,

972
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: NFL dot Com, land Ster Line, Daniel Jeremiah are probably

973
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: the mock drafts. I look at milk keypers looking for

974
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: your opinion on my Cowboys. If one of the quarterbacks

975
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 1: is available in the draft, most most likely Mac Jones.

976
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: And it looks like Dak is gonna be another franchise

977
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: tax So obviously this is an older question. I like Dak,

978
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: but not at forty plus million. Is Mac Jones a

979
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: decent prospect or the product of playing Alabama team with

980
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: the all time receiving group. Well, Dak Prescott is your

981
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: quarterback forty million dollars and you don't have to worry

982
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: about Mac Jones. One thing with the Cowboys is, you

983
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: know they do have the opportunity I pick tend to

984
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: get a really, really good player. I would probably draft

985
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. You know they have a lot invested

986
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: in that offense. Now that's making huge cash. Zeke makes

987
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: huge cash. A Marii makes huge cash. Ceedee Lamb is

988
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: a you know, top seven. He was a seventeen pick

989
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: in the draft, so he makes good money. Obviously, some

990
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: of those offensive linemen who are breaking down made huge

991
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: cash in the past. They've invest a lot of money.

992
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: Question for you on Bud Dupree, it was obvious to

993
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: me in two thousand twenty the turning point in the

994
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: Steeler season was losing Bud. I would agree. Do you

995
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: see a strong market for him coming off a major

996
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: injury like an A C L And two, do you

997
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: think paying two top pass rushers makes sense in the

998
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,720
Speaker 1: modern NFL? Thinking about San Francisco, moving on from Buckner

999
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: after paying him. Interested to hear your thoughts, I think

1000
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: it's really difficult. I think the best time to have

1001
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: the two pass rushers is when one of the guys

1002
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: under a rookie contract and they had Bosa, they had Armstead,

1003
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: they had Buckner, and they paid for d Ford. Well,

1004
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: eventually Armstead and Buckner need to get paid. Bosta was

1005
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: still on the rookie contract and DeFord was already paid.

1006
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: You couldn't keep them all, you know. To me, the

1007
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: move if you're the Steelers is probably a franchise trade

1008
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: and uh and get a pick. Franchise him and trade him,

1009
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: you know, maybe get a second round pick for him.

1010
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: It's to do that because you can't pay T. J. Watt.

1011
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to pay makeup Fitzpatrick. You're gonna need

1012
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: offensive help. You're gonna need a new quarterback. Act Like,

1013
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: I love defensive lineman and they're the most important thing

1014
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: in the league, probably beside quarterbacks. But you can't have

1015
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: multiple defensive lineman if you know, making twenty five million dollars,

1016
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,439
Speaker 1: million dollars. I'm not saying Bud Dupree's worth million dollars,

1017
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: but t Watt's going to be t J. Watt's gonna

1018
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: make more in Khalil Mack and bud Dupree is gonna

1019
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: make a ton. So I think the move is you

1020
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: just have to get value for blud Dupree. Whether that's

1021
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: I think it's franchise and trade, that would be my move.

1022
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 1: Probably a little complicated right with the with the A

1023
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: c L. But it's just it is what it is.

1024
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: I was looking for some advice. I know you even

1025
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: worked for Fresdo State in the Eagles. I have a

1026
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: potential opportunity working in scouting personnel operation department with a

1027
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: professional sports team. I was wondering why you left and

1028
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: if you liked working in those professions. Well, when Chip

1029
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 1: came in, I got I didn't My contract wasn't renewed

1030
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: and I had done the West Coast, so I had

1031
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: moved back to my home area and I was living

1032
00:54:58,640 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: in the Bay Area, and I just didn't want to

1033
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: move again, you know, and I didn't really some opportunities

1034
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: I I hoped didn't really present himself. There were a

1035
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 1: couple of potential opportunities. One was like moving to the Southwest,

1036
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: like scouting like Arkansas and Louisiana and that just I

1037
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: don't know, it didn't do it for me. I wanted

1038
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: to try other things. Now if someone would have offered

1039
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: me a job in scouting, and I had only known

1040
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: the people, like my network wasn't very big, you know,

1041
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: I was. I had worked in with the Eagles and seven.

1042
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: So all of a sudden in two thousand whatever, thirteen

1043
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 1: or fourteen, I just I need to get a job.

1044
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: I only knew the people that were with the Eagles,

1045
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: and I tried and it just didn't present itself. So

1046
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: I just said, screw it, like I don't I'll just

1047
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: do something else. And then within a year I had

1048
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: a radio show in San Francisco. So I just moved,

1049
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: you know, just my mindset and I just I've always

1050
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: been open minded doing other things. As if you listen

1051
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: to this, you know, I like business, and things just

1052
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: changed and I just went down a different career path.

1053
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: I say it all the time, like I really like football.

1054
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: Do I love football? Probably not as much as many

1055
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: of the people I worked with. So I was I

1056
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: had got my cup of Joe in the league. It

1057
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Speaker 1: had been a great experience. I've met a lot of

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Speaker 1: people that are really good at their jobs, lucky enough

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00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: to no head coaches and gms, and you know, I

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00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: got to work for arguably the second best coach in

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00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: the league and Andy Reid and still he's still a

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Speaker 1: friend of this day. And you know, it's just I

1063
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Speaker 1: was lucky, and I've I've never looked back. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm I was a good scout, but I'm a better

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Speaker 1: at doing this, so I don't really it was fun

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Speaker 1: when you're living in it. I mean, their challenges, it's

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00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: a it's a lot harder than what I do now.

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Speaker 1: Someone asked me the other day, like how much harder

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00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: is It was like a lot harder. You just you know,

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Speaker 1: I was driving city to city, you just up right

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Speaker 1: and reports watching tape. It's just it's a grind. It

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Speaker 1: is a it is a hard job. Now. It's not

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Speaker 1: like digging ditches, but it's it's very, very time consuming,

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Speaker 1: long hours, long days. It was just I wanted a

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00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: different lifestyle and I work a lot now, but I

1076
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: worked for me, you know, I like owning my revenue.

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Speaker 1: I just there were other interests in my life, and um,

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Speaker 1: other opportunities opened and I just wasn't afraid to kind

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Speaker 1: of hang a left, but I would recommend anyone that

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Speaker 1: aspires to do it if you get your chance to

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Speaker 1: do it. It changed my life forever working in the NFL. Clearly. Uh,

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00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: it's the best thing I ever did in terms of

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00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: for my career where it's at now. But it's something

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00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: I don't like. I don't miss it at all at all.

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00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: I I enjoy doing this infinitely more infinitely, but I

1086
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: have friends in the league that love it. And it's

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00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: just like anything when you're when you're in, you know,

1088
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: immersed in something, you get good at it right, if

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00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: you have an eye for it, you feel comfortable and

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00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: confident in what you're doing. You always want to do.

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00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: To me, two things are key to your job. You

1092
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: obviously really want to like your job. You're gonna spend

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00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: way more time in your job than you are with

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00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: your family than you are basically besides sleep, right, So

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00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: you better like your job. And it's easier to like

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00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: your job when you're good at it, because if you're

1097
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: good at your job, more than likely you're gonna have

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00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: success in your job. You're gonna be more financially rewarded

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00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: with time. So you just gotta follow your passion and

1100
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: it'll it'll take you. I'm a big believer in things,

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00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: just opportunities, and things happen for a reason. And sometimes

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00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: at the time, like when I was fired from the NFL,

1103
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,439
Speaker 1: is pretty devastated because I'm in my late twenties, as

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00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: it kind of like threw me on my ass, but

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00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: it also inspired me to do more to do to

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00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: bounce back, and uh so, yeah, just just follow your passion.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm a big belief. It sounds cheesy so many

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00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: people say it, it's so true because then you don't

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00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: feel like you're working. Like I worked on the ranch

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Speaker 1: for my dad when I was in high school, and

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00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: even coming back for college, I work construction. Ship was

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Speaker 1: fucking hard. I've changed displays in a hundred and fifteen

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00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: degree weather in Sacramento. That's tough work. If you find

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00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: what you like, you don't really feel like it's that hard.

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Speaker 1: Even when stuff is hard, it's just the natural part

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Speaker 1: of life. It's gonna be stressful, it's gonna be difficult,

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00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: but if if you do like what you do. I

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Speaker 1: I'm a big believer and I've only been really in

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00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 1: the working profession for a little over a decade. Life

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00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: is a lot easier because you can spend a lot

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00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: of time at work and you don't feel like you're

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00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: you know, the labor is that intensive. When you like

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Speaker 1: what you do, all of a sudden, like damn, it's

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00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: seven o'clock at night, I'm recording the podcast for Colin Coward.

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Speaker 1: I'm not exactly digging digitous here. Uh So, if you

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00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: if you're passionate about doing it, do it. And if

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00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: you don't like it a year, in two years, you

1128
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: can always do something else. You know the best part

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00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 1: of that America, no one forced you to do anything.

1130
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: You can do whatever job you want to do. Now

1131
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: they are given takes. You might have taken less money

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01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: to work in a certain profession. You might you could

1133
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 1: stay at a job that you don't like and make more.

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01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: We all have decisions and choices to make, but no

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01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: one forces your hand, No one does. You can choose

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01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: any profession. You can do whatever you want, especially now

1137
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: with the Internet, sky's the limit. So if you're passionate

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01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: you want to work in the protein, you want to

1139
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: work in a scouting department. I couldn't recommend it enough.

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01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: And then, like anything, you're gonna have complaints. That's life.

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01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: But if you're passionate about it, I would recommend trying

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01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: it out and then seeing where it goes. Appreciate everyone listening.

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Speaker 1: God speed, have a great week, and enjoy the chaos later.

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Speaker 1: Nine