1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Welcome in Thursday edition, March Madness edition of Play and Buck. 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: I just tweeted out my bracket as the show began 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: bucking ten minutes, the world's greatest tip off begins for 4 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: the world's greatest basketball tournament, the NCAA Tournament is underway. 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: Have you done your bracket yet? Have you filled one out? 6 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: I will do it in the break. That's how on 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: the ball I am. I don't even need to think 8 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: about it, Clay, I just pick it flows. The picks 9 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: flow from my fingertips and turn into bracket goals. 10 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: There you go. 11 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: I was wondering how you were going to land that ship, 12 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: and you did a good job of it. My picks 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: are up. I just tweeted them out thirty seconds ago. 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: And the games are officially underway in about ten minutes. 15 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: So this will be a fun show, as it often is. 16 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: But we got a lot of serious things to talk 17 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: about with all of you. And Pete Hegseth had another 18 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: early press conference about the situation unfolding in Iran, and 19 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: I'm sure we're going to play some of those cuts 20 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: for you. But President Trump is meeting the new leader 21 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: of Japan in the Oval Office as we speak, and 22 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: he just made news. 23 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: As Trump typically does. Buck. 24 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: One of my favorite things that Trump does is say 25 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: he's not going to answer a question, and then answer 26 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: the question while while saying he's not going to answer 27 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: the question. 28 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: So he was. 29 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: Specifically asked, this is something that a lot of you 30 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: have been concerned about. He was specifically asked, are you 31 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: going to put so called boots on the ground in Iran? 32 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: He's typically said, hey, I'm not going to answer that, 33 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: and to his credit, strategically, it would be not smart 34 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: to say, potentially, if he's going to do one thing 35 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: or another, leave all options open. It's harder to prepare 36 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: for something if you don't know what's coming. But he said, 37 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: he's not answer, and then he answered, here is cut 38 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: thirty one. This just happened in the Oval Office moments ago. Potentially, 39 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: UMUS troops are more truth than the agion. 40 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 3: No putting troops anywhere. If I if I were, certainly 41 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: wouldn't tell you. But I'm not putting troops, and we 42 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 3: will do whatever is necessary to keep the price as well. 43 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: I actually thought when I did this, but the Dow 44 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 3: just hit fifty thousand a couple of weeks ago. They 45 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 3: said they couldn't happen for four years. It wouldn't happen 46 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: in my term. But it's such an outrageous thing because 47 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: I said it would happen. I didn't know it was 48 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 3: going to happen that fast, but just at fifty thousand. 49 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: So Trump kind of dancing around there, but asked if 50 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: he's going to put poots on the ground. The only 51 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: place I think he would have gone, and we've said 52 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: this for days and days now, is potentially carg Island, 53 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: which is the main central location of where Iranian oil 54 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: is shipped produced. We have video of Trump from back 55 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: in the nineteen eighties that we've played talking about, Hey, 56 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: if you're going to hit heron, that's the place where 57 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: you hit Hern. But it seems like buck there is. 58 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: Trump had a strongly worded statement that he put out 59 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: last night and continues to move towards things being done. 60 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: I think you said you expected by April one for 61 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: this thing to be over. I think that's a good number. 62 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: I would go by April fifteen if we want to 63 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: go on the long end, which would mean another three 64 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: and a half or so weeks. But it does feel 65 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: to me like this operation is winding down. Primarily because 66 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: Iran has very few ballistic missiles left and increasingly few drones. 67 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: If you look at the overall trajectory of Iran's ability 68 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: to fire back kind of haphazardly in every direction, they 69 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: don't have that opportunity anymore to a large extent. And 70 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: as that opportunity has continued to be degraded, we are 71 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: now sitting in a situation where it's basically, Hey, who 72 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: do we want to take out? And what is a 73 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: resolution here? Is that your take? As President Trump again 74 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: will continue to update, continues to answer questions. Well, sure, 75 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: but I think I think that something else that came 76 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: out last night a reminder that this is high stake 77 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: stuff and things can go south on us pretty quick. 78 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: The President truthed out the following, Israel, out of anger 79 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: for what has taken place in the Middle East, has 80 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: violently lashed out at a major facility known as South 81 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: Pars gas Field in Iran. A relatively small section of 82 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: the whole has been hit. The United States knew nothing 83 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: about this particular attack, and the country of cutter Quitar 84 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: was in no way, shape or form involved with it 85 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: in or did it have any idea that it was 86 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: going to happen. Unfortunately, Iran did not know this or 87 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: any of the pertinent facts pertaining to the South pars 88 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: attack and unjustifiably and unfairly attacked a portion of Qatar 89 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: Liquid Natural Gas facility. No more attacks will be made 90 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: by Israel all caps pertaining to this extremely important and 91 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: valuable South Pars field, unless Iran unwisely decides to attack 92 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: a very innocent in this case Cutter, in which in 93 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: since the United States of America, with or without the 94 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: help or consent of Israel, will massively blow up the 95 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: entirety of the South Pars gas field at an amount 96 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: of strength and power that Iran has never seen or 97 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: witnessed before. I do not want to authorize this level 98 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: of violence and destruction because of the long term implications 99 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: that will have in the future of Iran. But if 100 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: Cutters Liquid Natural Gas is attacked again, I will not 101 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: hesitate to do so. Thank you for your attention to 102 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: this matter, President Donald J. 103 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: Trump. I just want to read that whole thing because Wow, 104 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 2: that's uh, that's. 105 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: A lot going There's a lot going on, a lot 106 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: of different plot twists in that statement. When I read 107 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: it last night, I was like, oh wow, so there's 108 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 1: it's almost like you need, as you know, to break 109 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: down all the different categories. The first, and obviously the 110 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: one that jumped out the most to me was this 111 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: attack that Israel levied was not one that Trump knew 112 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: was coming, but I actually thought it was quite diplomatic 113 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: as he moved on to say, hey, if you do 114 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: anything to Qatar, then we are going to rain down 115 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: holy hell on you. There are some reports that Iran 116 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: seems to be stepping back from doing anything, which obviously 117 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: would suggest we are moving towards a situation where maybe 118 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: calming down is more likely to occur. Oil and gas prices, Buck, 119 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: I thought you said this yesterday. This is of all 120 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: the times that you could be the oil and gas guy. 121 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: It spikes on every little news story, it comes back 122 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: down on every little news story. There's a bunch of 123 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: different oil markets there now is a huge divergence between 124 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: the oil markets that are based in the Middle East, 125 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: largely that type of oil and gas and crude oil, 126 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: which is the typical US oil and gas. 127 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: As I have it open. 128 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: On my screen in front of me right now now, 129 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: ninety seven dollars a barrel crude oil. 130 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: The US focused crude oil went to one twenty. 131 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: About a week ago, and it continues to spike or 132 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: not spike entirely based on news stories right now, so 133 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: you'll hear, hey, there's something new in the Strait of 134 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: hor moves or a new missile has landed, and they 135 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: will move in one direction or another rapidly, even as 136 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: we are talking to all of you. Crude oil right 137 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: now is ninety seven dollars and a half a barrel again, 138 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: down from one twenty where it went a couple of 139 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: weeks ago, and sitting at right at ninety seven fifty 140 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: as I'm talking to all of you, moving on the 141 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: news basically that's coming out of the Oval Office every sentence. 142 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: Almost it feels like, right now. 143 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 2: Look, I'm wondering what exactly. 144 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: Is going to come out of all of this, because increasingly, 145 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: I think gets clear what we've been saying. There's not 146 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: going to be regime change here. So you've killed the 147 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: leadership off, but the security forces and the government structure 148 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: below that leadership level seems like they're staying in place. 149 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: You've destroyed all their military infrastructure, but that doesn't seem 150 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: to change. For example, the besiegee militia the besiege being 151 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: able to terrify people into staying in their homes. 152 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: And I just sit here and. 153 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: Think this was what is Is it clear why we're 154 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: what we're trying to get out of this, and why 155 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: we got into this? 156 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: I'm not sure it is? 157 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: Well, I think I think this is a this is 158 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: a fair question to ask the what we're trying? What 159 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: got us into this is Iran was going to go nuclear, 160 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: which we've been told for twenty years at different levels, 161 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: was like months away, weeks away, months away, weeks away. Okay, 162 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: all right, I mean we don't have access to that information. 163 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: Only the top of the national security apparatus does, which 164 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: should make people a little bit uncomfortable, right, I mean, 165 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: we're trying. I lived through the whole WMD thing as 166 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: that all of you. We're trusting the people in charge now. 167 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: I voted for Trump three times. I trust President Trump 168 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: on matters of national security as a general rule. 169 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 2: But there is just a trust factor there. 170 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: What is the outcome here that's going to be worth 171 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: the hundreds of billions of dollars that this campaign will 172 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: have ended up costing. I think the challenge is, and 173 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: you would know this better than anybody, having worked as 174 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: a CIA analyst, predicting what was going to happen on 175 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: the ground and what is happening and what's likely to 176 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: happen is really really difficult inside of Iran because the 177 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: president's first statement that he made when we decapitated the 178 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: government and took out the Ayatolah was now is the 179 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: time for all of you to rise up. You may 180 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: not have another chance for decades or generation to take 181 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 1: back your government. That seemed like the goal was regime change, 182 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: But it now seems like, given that, there doesn't appear 183 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: to have been that rising tide inside of Iran. I mean, 184 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say, buck, there were tens 185 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: of thousands of people in the streets protesting the government 186 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: when the Ayatola. 187 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: Was still alive. 188 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: Now he's dead, and the tens of thousands of people 189 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: in the streets don't seem to be happening now a lot. 190 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: Of them are dead. But yo, well, ye killed thirty 191 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: thousand people. 192 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: Australia has an incredible new great newspaper on Australia has 193 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: an incredible front page. So yes, a lot of the 194 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 1: resistance they killed. But I think maybe there was an 195 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: expectation of more of an uprising, And as you were talking, 196 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: I just sent it in We'll play it. Bessen is 197 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: in the Oval office and he just said they still 198 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: expect for there to be an uprising inside of Iran. 199 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: So I think part of the argument has been it's 200 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: shifting in its goals because on the one hand, the mode, 201 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: the grass strategy of hey, we're just going to wipe 202 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: out Iran ability to have strong weaponry and any impact 203 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: in the Middle East. That's to me the low end, 204 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: and I think likely to have occurred. The high end 205 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: is we're going to replace this government with one that 206 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: actually is a decent one That seems unlikely, And it 207 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: feels to me like we're going to be somewhere in 208 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: kind of the squishy middle where what exactly is Iran 209 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: is going to look like when we stop dropping bombs 210 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: is hard to forecast. Here's the other thing, why can 211 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: Israel not continue to drop bombs? So if the US 212 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: decides at some point in time, hey, we've done everything 213 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: we think we need to do, I'm not sure the 214 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: joint response. We've got an audio clip from Trump about this, 215 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: and the truth social post that you read is indicative 216 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: of this as well. Couldn't there be at some point 217 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: a divergence in the Union where the US says, hey, 218 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: we think we've done enough, and Iran says, hey, you 219 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: know we haven't. 220 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 2: Like we saw in Gaza. 221 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: When Iran kept going, I mean sorry, Israel kept going 222 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: because they're trying to eliminate the threat once and for all. 223 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: And the threat, to be fair to Israel is more 224 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: substantial than the threat is to the United States. I 225 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: think the Israelis have made it clear to Iranian hardliners 226 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: if you do anything that negatively affects the national security 227 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: or the people of Israel will blow you up in 228 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: a tent in the middle of nowhere, in the middle 229 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: of the night, like we'll get you. Yeah, I mean 230 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: that has been made clear. What does that mean for 231 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 1: the future of a country of ninety million people? I mean, 232 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: I got to tell you, as this thing is going 233 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: on here, we are using a tremendous amount of munitions 234 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: which are very expensive. 235 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: I might add in all of this to. 236 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: Blow up a lot of kind of second and third 237 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: tier military equipment, just calling it like it is, so 238 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: how long do we continue to do this for? I mean, 239 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: this is going to end up being an expensive an 240 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: expensive side quest of sorts from what I think a 241 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: lot of people are still wondering, Hey, we've got we've 242 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 1: got domestic issues here. That's really what we want to 243 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: see the focus on. Trump is aware of that. Look, 244 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: he just said it's going to be over pretty soon. 245 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: This is caught thirty three, play this one. 246 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: The pressures will go up, the economy will go down 247 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 3: a little bit. I thought it would be worse, much worse. Actually, 248 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 3: I thought there was a chance it could be much worse. 249 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 3: It's not bad, and it's going to be over with 250 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 3: pretty soon. We've obliterated the Navy. We've obliterated there just 251 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 3: about everything there is to obliterate, including leadership. The Navy's gone. 252 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 3: Their air force is gone, their anti aircraft equipment is gone. 253 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 3: We're flying wherever we want, Pete, we have no nobody 254 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 3: even shooting at us. They have, I mean, and as 255 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 3: you know, their leadership is gone, their leaders are gone. 256 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 3: They pick new leaders, they're gone, they pick new leaders, 257 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 3: they're gone. They're looking for new leaders again. We can 258 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 3: take out the island anytime we want, so, he's. 259 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: Talking about carg Island there. 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Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. 289 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: And Clay mentioned this Pete Hegseach, Secretary of War. I 290 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: think I've already told you this. If a Democrat wins 291 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: in twenty eight, this will be the least of our problems. 292 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: One hundred percent chance they're going to change the name 293 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: back to Department of Defense. Just so you know, just 294 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: so this is going to be telling you, Buck, I 295 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: think it's gonna go Department of Peace. I think they're 296 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: gonna skip Defense and they're going to go full opposite direction. 297 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: This is if you are correct, mark this one down 298 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: for a This is calling it in the upper deck, 299 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: deep into center field. That would be right. Yes, yes, 300 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: this would be quite a call to make. If they 301 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: can full Department of Peace, that would be wild. But 302 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: I guarantee you they're at least going back to DoD anyway, 303 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: not a big deal. But I just think it's kind 304 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: of funny that this is now the reality of By 305 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: the way, they might change some of the base names back, 306 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: although what they did with Fort Bragg was very smart. 307 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: They named it for a more recent American military hero 308 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: named Bragg, and not for the you know guy from 309 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: the Civil War. So okay, general by the way, Braxton 310 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: Brad and apparently a terrible guy right like beat his 311 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: own troops, like really into corporate discipline like Hatten. Yeah, yeah, 312 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: mean a mean fellow. Pete Hexth talking about Iran as 313 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: a direct threat play cut one. 314 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 5: Gonn has terrorized the United States and our interest for 315 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 5: forty seven years. Their core industries not steel or agriculture, tourism. 316 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 5: Their core industries are state sponsored terrorism, proxy militias, underground networks, 317 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 5: ballistic missiles, and a violent messionic Islamist ideology chasing some 318 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 5: sort of apocalyptic endgame. A regime like that refusing to 319 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 5: abandon its nuclear ambitions is not just a regional problem. 320 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 5: It's a direct threat to America, to freedom, into civilization 321 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 5: the world, the Middle East, Our ungrateful allies in Europe, 322 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 5: even segments of our own press, should be saying one 323 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 5: thing to President Trump, thank you, thank you for the 324 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 5: courage to stop this terror state from holding the world hostage. 325 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 1: That's the pitch, is the pitch landing with the MAGA 326 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: base right now. 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We want to continue 354 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: to update you with everything that President Trump was saying, 355 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: some serious, some funny, as is often the case with 356 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: President Trump. And let me see here the absolute latest. 357 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 1: We were discussing the truth social posts last night and 358 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: Trump was asked about his disagreement on the decision Israel 359 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: made to target part of Iran's oil and natural gas infrastructure. 360 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: Trump said he didn't know about it, and this is 361 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: cut thirty four. Trump says he told Netanyahu to stop 362 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: the strikes on Iran's energy fields. 363 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 5: That's a fame instrumant Ayana about attacking. 364 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: On guys field. 365 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 3: See I did, I did, I told him don't do that, 366 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 3: and he's going to do that. We didn't discuss, you know, 367 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 3: we do we're independent, but get long. Great, it's coordinated, 368 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 3: but on occasion he'll do something and if I don't 369 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 3: like it, and so we're not doing that anymore. 370 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: Question for you Buck, Could this be intentional where Trump 371 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: gets to play the good guy to Qatar and Israel 372 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: gets to be the bad guy and Trump says, boy, 373 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: I didn't know we were going to do this, and 374 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: it's all kind of coordinated, but it allows him to 375 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: look like the middle agent trying to bring you know, 376 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,719 Speaker 1: stability or do you think that and Yahoo just truly 377 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: went rogue and did this and the American administration didn't 378 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: know about it. 379 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 2: I look, this is my gut instinct. 380 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: I think that Trump doesn't want the messing with the 381 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: liquid natural gas production for the whole world. This is 382 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: this is real stuff. If you were to eliminate let's 383 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: just say, let's just put this out there. Let's say 384 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: Ron had the capability to destroy the Qatari liquefied natural 385 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: gas field. We're talking about the pars field. It's a 386 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: huge percentage of like a shockingly large percentage of global 387 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,479 Speaker 1: production and global reserves in those fields, and we can 388 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: pull up the stats for you in a second. I 389 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: don't know on the top of my head. I just 390 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: know it's really big. I think it's the biggest liquified 391 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: natural gas facility in the world. So that gives you 392 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: some sense of it. 393 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: You want to. 394 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: Really mess up the global economy in the blink of 395 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: an eye, take offline. Now, this is only one part 396 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: of the facility. It's gonna be I'm not a catastrophe here, 397 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna I think it's all gonna be. Okay, it's fine. 398 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: But I think Trump's like, hey, guys, knock it off. 399 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: I think legitimately this was look these this is where 400 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 1: you have to have to talk about this too. It's 401 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Iran is a bigger threat to Israel than 402 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: it is to us. Yes, that's just the fact we 403 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: all know this. They have different Now, you can be 404 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: allies with people in something as we are. 405 00:21:58,320 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 2: And not have the exact same. 406 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: There is no such thing as national security interests as 407 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: if the United States decides to stop bombing before Iran does. 408 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: In fact, I might put the probability as high that 409 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: that could occur. 410 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: Before Israel does. 411 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, the Israelis have been taking out or or 412 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: have they, But I mean nuclear scientists have been you know, 413 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: getting blown up for a long time, and a lot 414 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: of people think that, you know, we think. 415 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 2: We know who it is. 416 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,959 Speaker 1: I mean they neither confirm nor deny, but I mean 417 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: you look at all the reporting on this stuff going 418 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: back for a very long time. I mean, Israel has 419 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: been waging a covert war against the Iranian nuclear program 420 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: for for many, many years, and much more so than well, 421 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: at least then Americans are aware of that their own government. 422 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: And again, what are we doing, what are the Israelis doing? 423 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 1: You know who knows? But point here is clay. Yeah, 424 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: I think Israel sees this as an opportunity to just 425 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: really rarely hit him where it hurts in Iran, more 426 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: so even than Trump is willing to do because Iran 427 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: is Iran can't hit us with ballistic missiles. Iran can 428 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: hit Israel blistic missiles obviously, and drones and a whole 429 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: bunch of things. So this is just straightforward. And anybody 430 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 1: who has any kind of oh what are you saying? No, 431 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: of course, we're different countries, different population size, different geography, 432 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: different distance to the enemy. Here which is Iran. They're 433 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: going to have a different set of national security interests 434 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: than we are. There will be some areas where coincides. 435 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: There are some areas where it doesn't. And I think 436 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: this is where we saw Trump having to basically tell them, you, guys, 437 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: if we're doing this thing together here, you got to 438 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: cool it a little bit on that you can't be 439 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: taking You can't be putting a global liquefied natural gas 440 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: production at risk with any actions that you're taking. Because also, 441 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: if you took this offline, I think it costs seventy 442 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: billion or no, one hundred billion dollars, seventy billion dollars 443 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: to build this facility some crazy number. And if you 444 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: obliterated the whole thing, it would take years, years and 445 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: years to rebuild this. I wonder also whether this is 446 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: uh net Yahoo and Israel knowing that the Americans might 447 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: be opposed to it and doing it anyway, uh with 448 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: getting whatever you wanted to do done without having to 449 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: clear it beforehand and create it. 450 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,239 Speaker 2: And then you're like, oh, sorry, we thought you were 451 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: okay with this. 452 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: Uh here is you asked the question buck about ultimate 453 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: goals and again. 454 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 2: About ultimately Wait, can I ask a question. Sorry, I'm 455 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 2: just this. 456 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, world War Two, wasn't there a dispute between America 457 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: and Britain over daylight bombing? 458 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 2: Didn't we have h over the bombing raids? 459 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: Am I'm reading right now? I mean there were the 460 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: idea that the US and UH and England. In retrospect, 461 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: everybody buck says, oh, what a great partnership. 462 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 2: They fought all the time. They disagreed on stuff all 463 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: the time. 464 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: The decision of when to go into Europe was a 465 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: huge battle, and you're talking about one of the disagreements. 466 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: I'm totally right by the way. Britain in the US 467 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: strongly disagreed over daylight bombing in World War Two. The 468 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: Royal Air Force, because they had just gotten hit real bad, 469 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: lost a lot of people. They're like, look, we're going 470 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: at night. We're going at night because and the Americans 471 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: were like, well, we want to actually go in the 472 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: day so we can see what we're hitting, because this 473 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: is a lot of it, even with the Norden bomb 474 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: side or whatever. This is like line of sight stuff 475 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: really you're talking about. And the Brits were just like, nah, 476 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: we're dropping those bombs at night. That's how we're going 477 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: to do it. So my point here is there are 478 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: this is not a new thing, This is not a 479 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: oh my gosh. I mean, were going to disagree on 480 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: our historical reading because the idea is that the US 481 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: and Britain were in lockstep agreement and in the way 482 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: that it gets covered because we won World War Two, 483 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: that's the perspective on it. But actually there was a 484 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: great deal of behind the scenes disagreement. So to your point, 485 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: the US and Israel having somewhat divergent perspectives is not crazy. 486 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 2: And the British were okay with higher civilian casualties. I 487 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 2: might add as. 488 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: Well, because they went through all of the attacks. I mean, 489 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: if you go back and read it's a great book 490 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: on when when England was getting bombed, when it looked 491 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: like Hitler was going to get invade England before he 492 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: decided to pivot in one of the great strategic miscalculations 493 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: of all time and go after Russia. 494 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 2: Uh. 495 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: The expectation was during the bombing of Britain. I think 496 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: they thought this goes into the bombing campaigns, that they 497 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: could get England to relent entirely based on the bombing campaign, 498 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: that Britain would just wave the white flag basically, and 499 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: they would never have to come across the English Channel 500 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: and invade. But it doesn't surprise me that England, after 501 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: going through that, was like, we're not worried about civilians 502 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: because they got a lot of their civilians killed. Well, 503 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: look at the analogy here to Israel. After all the 504 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: years of Iran backing and training Hamas backing and training 505 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: has Belah directing attacks on Jews all over the world, 506 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: it would make perfect sense to me that Israel is 507 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: more willing to tolerate more damage in now. They have 508 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: been very precise in their strikes. I'm not saying they're 509 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: going out of their way to hit civilian targets. I 510 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: am saying infrastructure targets they may be a little more 511 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: accepting of. And that's certainly what Donald Trump is I'm 512 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: just repeating essentially. I mean's not targeting directly attacks on anybody. 513 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: They're just kind of haphazardly flying, firing in whatever direction 514 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: they can. So if I'm Israel, frankly, if I'm Katar 515 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: or the UAE, any of these countries, my concern about 516 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: civilian casualties is lower after seeing what Iron's been willing 517 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: to do with us now, Buck, I wanted to play this. 518 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: Scott Bessant also in the Oval office. I believe this 519 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: is where that came from. Team Correct me if I'm wrong, 520 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: if this was a interview happening at the same time 521 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: in a different spot, But I think Scott Bessant also 522 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: in the Oval Office. He said kind of echoed the 523 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: initial statement that Trump made, which is we're seeing mass 524 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: defections and at some point he thinks the regime is 525 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: going to collapse inside of Iran. 526 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 2: This is a little bit of a different. 527 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: Take, more aggressive, more akin to what Trump said immediately 528 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: after the first strike that took out the Ayatola Cut 529 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: thirty five. 530 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 4: We are seeing the defections at all levels as they're 531 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 4: starting to sense what's. 532 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 2: Going on with the region. Did that just cut? 533 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 4: We are seeing the defections at all levels as they're 534 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 4: starting to sense what's going on with the regime. It 535 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 4: doesn't get reported here in the US very well, but 536 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 4: you know, we are transcing them from the air, and 537 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 4: the regime will probably collapse within itself. At Treasury, we've 538 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 4: seen where they've wired their money out of the country. 539 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 2: We're coming for that. We're going to get it. Back 540 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 2: to the Iranian people. 541 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 6: Finishing the affections, and there's a lot of military defections also, 542 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 6: you have a lot of military defections in an I 543 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 6: don't say, I don't blame them. 544 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 2: So that is a little bit different perspective. 545 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: That's more akin to what was initially said buck which 546 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: is that there is some sign potentially or maybe they're 547 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: trying to create it by talking about it, that some 548 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: of these uh entrenched interests in the Iranian government are 549 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: actually buckling. This would be if they pull off what 550 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: Trump and Beson are talking about here, which is which 551 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: is regime change without invasion, just regime we're effectively we 552 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: are we are acting like the air force, the preemptive 553 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: air force of an Iranian resistance movement. That's really how 554 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: this lines up. If they pull this off, and that's 555 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: how this actually goes down, this will be the most 556 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: incredible foreign policy military. 557 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 2: Maneuver since D Day. 558 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: Honestly, I mean, this is a a incredible generation defining success. 559 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,239 Speaker 1: So the fact that they're still talking about this and 560 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: hopeful that can happen just gives you a sense of possibility. 561 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: But real tough stuff they're trying to pull. Here's what 562 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: I would also say, buck is they're going for the 563 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: home run. They're just going for the home run here. 564 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: I think it's also just a sign of the tech 565 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: right yesterday we told you about the guy who thought 566 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: he was safe, one of their top Iranian generals living 567 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: in a tent in a you know, like literally not 568 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: able theoretically, he went totally offline and they sent in 569 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: a drone and wiped him out. The tech is better 570 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: now than it ever has been before. By the way, 571 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: I actually think the drone tech is going to get 572 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: scary now. What everybody talks about nuclear weapons, think about 573 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: when individuals get access to bombing with drones and the 574 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: dangers that that can create inside of every country. What 575 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: one thing that I just militarily I think is interesting 576 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: the fact that they've gone so hard so fast that 577 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: Iran something in the background that I'm sure has affected 578 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: these calculations, and the reason why Secretary of War and 579 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: the Trump administration and the President himself as commander in 580 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: chief have been let's go, go go, and just a 581 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: tremendous amount of ordinance has been dropped on Iran's clay. 582 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: We already know Ian there's open reporting about it now, 583 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: but it was obviously going to happen. The Russians are 584 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,719 Speaker 1: giving real time intelligence to the Iranians. Now, they're sending 585 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,239 Speaker 1: them their most advanced, their best or you know, some 586 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: of their more advanced I should say, drone technology. And 587 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: Russians have gotten really good at this because of the 588 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: Ukraine War. They're sending them stuff, they're sending them geared, 589 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: they're giving them intel. They want to try to mess 590 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: us up in Iran because of course they're from the 591 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: Russian perspective, understandably very bitter. Putin's very bitter about our 592 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: backing of the Ukrainian resistance. So what I'm saying is 593 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: taking out as much of their military infrastructure as possible, 594 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: as quickly as possible really makes a difference, because the 595 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: Russians were going to try to create a quagmire, even 596 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: just for our air force there. Give them better surface 597 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: to air missiles, give them better target give them whatever 598 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: they can. 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Sometimes as part of this 634 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: news program, we get excited because we know we're gonna 635 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: bring you some really fun stuff. President Trump is sitting down, 636 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: has been sitting down with the leader of Japan, and 637 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna hold this. He's been very trump like. That's 638 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: that I can tell you. He's been very very charming, 639 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: very interesting, very funny, and we'll bring you some of 640 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 1: the best stuff. If you were to guess what kind 641 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,919 Speaker 1: of a joke do you think Donald Trump would make 642 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: sitting down with the premiere of Japan. What kind of 643 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: joke would he make? You could probably guess, But and 644 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: he went there. So we're going to get into this. 645 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: This is what they call it teas in the business. 646 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: We will play this for you shortly, but also bring 647 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: you everything that he's talking about from the oval because 648 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 1: he's Trump, so he's taking a whole range of questions 649 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: and things. And Claiya, I'm actually very I'm happy that 650 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: you played that, Bessen and also Trump clips where they 651 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: were saying there are these defections, there is Yeah, there 652 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,479 Speaker 1: is hope on the ground for the resistance. I hope 653 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: that's true. That would be incredible, Like I said, this 654 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: would be an unbelievable military really stroke of genius if 655 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: this really brings an end to the terrorist regime of 656 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 1: the Mullas. 657 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 2: If it does, I. 658 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: Wouldn't bet on it right now, and I'm sure you 659 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: can bet and polymarket or whatever on it, but I 660 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: think it's a tough one. That all said, if Trump 661 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 1: is confident on this one, look, Venezuela is in a 662 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: much better place. Cuba may soon be in a better place. 663 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: We'll see how that goes. But in the situation of 664 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: Iran right now, the more reporting we get on that, 665 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: the better. 666 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 2: Look. 667 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: This is where the military history angle to me, is 668 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: really interesting to comprehend. If you go back to the 669 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: Iraq War and just think about how difficult it was 670 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: to catch Saddam Hussein for instance. How much better is 671 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: the tech now such that how much of the Iraq 672 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: War could have been managed without boots on the ground 673 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: if we had twenty twenty six technology back in you know, 674 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: two thousand and three. That is really, I mean a 675 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: generation difference. How much could that have changed? Well, this 676 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: is like I said, having seen two different drone strikes 677 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: twenty years or so apart, one in theater, one here 678 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: in the States, just watching the footage it's gone from. 679 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: We'd blow up the whole car and everybody in it. 680 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: And that's just the way it is. Do we can 681 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: take out one person in one seat and the rest 682 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: of the car survives. Yeah, And that gives you a 683 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: pretty good sense of how much things have changed. And 684 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,280 Speaker 1: also the surveillance technology that we have now, the ability 685 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: the eyes and ears that we can get through drone 686 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,919 Speaker 1: through our tech on these targets incredible. This is where 687 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: it scares me going forward, because I just think that 688 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't realize how easy it is 689 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: to remotely kill people, and I think it's going to 690 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: translate into the future of the world that we're in. 691 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 2: I'm afraid. 692 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: Wasn't there like a weird Tom Sellick movie about robots 693 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: that kill people back in the eighties. 694 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 2: Oh, I have no idea.