1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine, Hey Bessies. 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: Today on the bright Side, it is the inimitable Juliana Margalize. 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: She starred in TV's most iconic shows, including Hello Sunshine's 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: very own The Morning Show, and she's making a long 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: awaited return to Broadway in the new play Left on Tenth. 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 2: So today she's sharing how luck has played a role 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: in her career, plus why she had to scold her 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 2: a longtime friend, George Clooney on one of his life choices. 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: It's Monday, January twenty seventh. I'm Simone Boyce. 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 3: I'm Danielle Robe and this is the bright Side from 11 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 3: Hello Sunshine. 12 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 2: Okay, Danielle, you know what time it is. It is 13 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: on my mind Monday. Hit me with some food for. 14 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 3: Thought, please, Okay, Well, I have a question for you 15 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 3: when it comes to success. 16 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: What's the bigger factor? Luck or hard work? Hard work? 17 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 3: Reallymm hmmm, it's a just classic debate. You know, the 18 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 3: best quote I ever heard about luck is that luck 19 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: is like a bus and you have to be at 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 3: the bus stop to catch the bus, but if you 21 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 3: miss it, another one will come by. So I think 22 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 3: it's maybe a combination of both for sure, As with 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 3: anything in life, there's a gray area. Yeah, like timing matters. Well, 24 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 3: it turns out that research may have some answers. There 25 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 3: was a recent study featured in Forbes that revealed that 26 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 3: nearly half of employees believe that luck outweighs hard work 27 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,639 Speaker 3: when it comes to building wealth. But here's the kicker. 28 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 3: Evidence shows that it's not just luck that gets you there, 29 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: it's about what you do with it. So this article 30 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 3: breaks down how hard work and smart strategies can actually 31 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 3: turn those lucky breaks into long term success. Forget about 32 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: superstition and lucky charms. This is really about creating your 33 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 3: own opportunities. So I want to dive into some of 34 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 3: the key tips that they shared, and this is by 35 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 3: personal finance strategist Jamie Wall. She outlined four ways to 36 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 3: turn career luck into success. 37 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm really curious. Let's hear it. What's up first? 38 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: Okay, first up, Build and nurture your network. So you've 39 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: probably heard it before. It's not just what you know, 40 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: it's who you know. It's attending events, it's connecting on LinkedIn, 41 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 3: it's building relationships that can open doors for you. 42 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 2: And we've talked about how annoying it is whenever. People 43 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: only reach out when they need something, So don't be 44 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: that person. Okay, stay in touch with people, that's the thing. 45 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 2: Like it's just like taking a genuine interest in someone's life. 46 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny because we just talked about this, we 47 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: were texting. 48 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: Okay. The second tip is stay informed. 49 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 3: Luck favors the prepared, right, So that's kind of the 50 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 3: bus stop analogy. Whether it's subscribing to industry newsletters, staying 51 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: on top of trends, or just keeping your skills sharp, 52 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 3: we all have to position ourselves to seize opportunities when 53 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:46,399 Speaker 3: they come our way. 54 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: Hmmm, that's interesting. Stay informed, I mean awareness is part 55 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: of the game, right. I think awareness also ties into 56 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: relevance too, Like, if you're aware of what's going on, 57 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: that probably means that you're relevant in your field and 58 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: you probably have a better chance of succeeding. 59 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: Yes, that's really well said. And last, but not least, 60 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 3: practice financial discipline. 61 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: Ooh, this is hard. 62 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 3: So even if luck comes knocking, it won't mean much 63 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 3: if you're not managing your resources wisely. So the writer says, 64 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 3: build an emergency fund, track your spending, start investing all 65 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: the things. 66 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: Basically, it all adds up over time. That's really smart. 67 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 2: I'm actually working on that right now, like getting together 68 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: a financial discipline game plan for the rest of the year. 69 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: It's huge. 70 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: Well, as you were telling me about this article, something 71 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: struck me. I think the people who are questioned for 72 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: this study is actually the most telling part of this study. 73 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: So you said that Forbes surveyed employees, right, and they 74 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: believe that luck outweighs hard work when it comes to 75 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: building wealth. I actually think that's really indicative of an 76 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: employee mindset, like when you've been working for a certain 77 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 2: corporation for a long time, or you've been working for 78 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: someone else. I think that when you give entrepreneurship a 79 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: try and you work for yourself, I think you really 80 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: start to see that hard work can outweigh luck. 81 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: But it doesn't always happen. 82 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: That perspective shift doesn't always happen until you're on the 83 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 2: outside of a corporation doing it on your own. 84 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 3: That is really interesting. I think that I know this 85 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: sounds woo woo, but hear me out. Yeah, I think 86 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 3: people who feel lucky get luckier. 87 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: For sure. It's all thoughts. It's all how you perceive yourself, you. 88 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 3: Know, and so it's like, to me, the harder you're working, 89 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 3: the more you're like, if you're working really hard for something, 90 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 3: you're really kind of expecting luck or wanting luck to 91 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: hit at some point, and so like, the harder you work, 92 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: the luckier you get. Is that saying? But I think 93 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: there's truth to it because of the mindset. 94 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's power in just believing you're lucky, 95 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 2: you know, like moving through the world with this mindset 96 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: of I am lucky, things naturally come to me. 97 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 98 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: It does sound silly and woo woo, but it really works. Yeah. 99 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 3: Well, speaking of career success and luck, our guest today 100 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 3: credits a lot of the success that she's had in 101 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 3: both her professional and her personal life to luck and chance. 102 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 3: Julianna Margalis has been lighting up our screens for decades. 103 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: You've seen her on Er, The Good Wife, and more 104 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: recently The Morning Show, and now, for the first time 105 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 3: in eighteen years, a chance encounter brought her back to Broadway. 106 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 3: She's currently starring in the critically acclaimed show Left on Tenth, 107 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 3: where she stars alongside Peter Gallagher. 108 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 2: Oh love him too, Oh my gosh, I am so 109 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 2: excited to hear this conversation. I was at Disney World 110 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: with my kids when you were doing this, and I 111 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: was so bummed to miss it because I just love 112 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 2: her and love her work, and so I have a 113 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 2: lot of questions for. 114 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: You about her. Okay, shoot, okay. 115 00:05:55,120 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 2: So she always has this really grounded, almost quiet authority 116 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: in her roles, and I was curious if she had 117 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: that same calming presence in person. Oh, that's a great question. 118 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: Yes she did. Her presence is very calming. And you 119 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: know what's interesting. I read her book a few years ago. 120 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 3: It was called Sunshine Girl, An Unexpected Life, and in 121 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: it she detailed this sort of very chaotic upbringing and 122 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 3: I always thought it was interesting that that was juxtapose 123 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 3: against what seemed like her natural calm nature. And also 124 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 3: like the roles that she chose were so put together, 125 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 3: and her role on The Good Wife was like this 126 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 3: very precise person. Yeah, and she seems that way in 127 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 3: real life. 128 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. Does she have a silly side or is she 129 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: more like serious? Yeah? 130 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 3: She was really fun and she talks about old times 131 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 3: on set with George Clooney and told some really great 132 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 3: stories about that time. I can tell she likes to laugh, 133 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 3: which I really appreciate. 134 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: Oh, yes she's one of us. Then, yes she is. 135 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 3: You know, there's one thing from her book that we 136 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 3: didn't actually get to talk about in the interview that 137 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 3: I think is worth mentioning. She wrote about this story 138 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: that when er was going to be over, she was 139 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: going to leave the show, she was offered twenty seven 140 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: million dollars to stay. And nowadays that seems like a 141 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: huge amount of money, but back then that was even 142 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 3: more like that was a huge amount of money, and 143 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 3: she had this instinct to leave still, And so she 144 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,679 Speaker 3: called everybody in her life and asked them what they thought, 145 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 3: and they all said, I mean, you have to stay. 146 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,239 Speaker 1: That's life changing money, Like you gotta stay. 147 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: I'm staying. I'm right, I'm staying. I'm staying right where 148 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: I'm at. 149 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 150 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: So she goes to the Body Tree bookstore and she 151 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 3: opens up this old Buddhist book and turns to a 152 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: random page and it says learn more, not earn more. 153 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 3: And she thought, wow, I have my answer. She wanted 154 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: to learn more and not earn more. So she walked 155 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 3: away from the twenty seven million dollars because of a book, 156 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: because of the Buddhist But and I think her heart. 157 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: She really, I really think I one of the through 158 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: lines of this interview that I found with her is 159 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: that she really follows her heart. 160 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: She knows herself. That's really admirable. 161 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: I think you have to have a few millions in 162 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: order to be able to turn down twenty seven million. 163 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, she recognized that she was in the 164 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: position to do so. But I just I think that 165 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 3: says so much about her. She has a lot of 166 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 3: a lot of heart and a lot of integrity. 167 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: I like to learn more, earn more. 168 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 3: Framework Yeah, well, I think let's roll it without further ado. 169 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: Here's my conversation with Juliana. Juliana, welcome to the bright Side. 170 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. 171 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 3: I have been wanting to interview you for so long. 172 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 3: Now I get to because you're currently on Broadway starting 173 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 3: in Delia Efrin's play Left on tenth and audiences have 174 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 3: been loving it. Critics have been raving about it. I 175 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 3: love that the show is an adaptation of Delia's memoir. 176 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 3: So for those who are not familiar with the show, 177 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 3: will you tell us a little bit about it? 178 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 4: So Delia Efrin, who is Nora Efren's younger sister, there's 179 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 4: four Efren Girls, all writers. Delia and Noura worked on 180 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 4: a lot of screenplays together. Delia wrote You've Got Mail, 181 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 4: they did Sleepless in Seattle. Nora was known as the 182 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 4: you know reinventor of the romantic comedy, and Delia established 183 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 4: herself in her own right as a novelist. And Nora, 184 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 4: in twenty twelve died of something called Milo dysplastics syndrome, 185 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 4: which is bone marrot cancer basically that can morph into AMML, 186 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 4: which is leukemia. And Delia happened to be Nora's match 187 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 4: for a stem cell replacement for a bone train but 188 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 4: when they took Delia's blood, her marrow was a little, 189 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 4: as she says in the play wonky, not exactly sick, 190 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 4: but potentially sick, so she couldn't be Nora's bone marrow 191 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 4: donor for a bone marrow transplant. There were no other 192 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 4: matches in the entire world, and Nora died, and so Delia, 193 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 4: three years later went through another horrible cancer story with 194 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 4: her husband Jerry of thirty three years, who died of 195 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 4: prostate cancer. All this time, her own possible disease was 196 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 4: hanging over her head, so she suffered these two deaths, 197 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 4: and six months after her husband dies, she writes an 198 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 4: offbed in The New York Times called Love and Hate 199 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 4: on Hold with Verizon because when she went to disconnect 200 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 4: her late husband's landline, Verizon also disconnected her Internet, and 201 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 4: it was her only conduit to the outside and she 202 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 4: could not get one human being on the phone. It 203 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 4: was all prompts anyway, So she wrote an op ed 204 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 4: in The New York Times when she couldn't get anyone 205 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 4: to fix her internet, and a long lost a man 206 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 4: that Nora had set her up with on a date 207 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 4: when she was eighteen, wrote to her through her website 208 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 4: to say, I just want you to know I love 209 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 4: your article in the New York Times. I had the 210 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 4: same problem with my late wife's phone. And by the way, 211 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 4: we know each other, or we knew each other, your 212 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 4: big sister Nora set us up when we were eighteen. 213 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 4: All of that to say they end up falling in 214 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 4: love over email. I mean it was to Delia it 215 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 4: was a joke because she wrote, You've got mail about 216 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 4: two people falling in love over email. And here she was, 217 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 4: after all these horrific losses in her life and sort 218 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 4: of feeling like I'll just live out my days and die. 219 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 4: She starts falling in love with someone that comes blessed 220 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 4: by Nora. They fall in love, and pretty soon after 221 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 4: they fall in love, she finds out she had what 222 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 4: Nora had and she has full blown leukemia. And there 223 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 4: are no matches because she knows she's Nora's only match 224 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 4: and she knows there's no matches for her. 225 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: But I think it was eight years later. 226 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 4: In the science world is huge because at this point 227 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 4: she can do a haplochord transplant where you don't need 228 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 4: a match. 229 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: You can use a. 230 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 4: Donor and a cord blood that a mother donates after 231 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 4: giving birth. The baby's cord blood has very strong stem cells, 232 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 4: but there's not enough of them, so use an adult 233 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 4: one and then the baby cord ends up taking over 234 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 4: in the adult one face away, and you end up 235 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 4: with a baby's bone marrow. Basically, it is a twenty 236 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 4: percent chance of it working. Wow, and it worked and Delia. 237 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 4: It's interesting because Peter Rudder, her husband. Now he's a 238 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 4: union psychotherapist, and he sees life in such a positive 239 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 4: way because when he was seven years old, he saw 240 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 4: his mother get hit by a car in front of 241 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 4: him and die oh wow. And so, as he puts it, 242 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 4: the worst that happened to me when I was seven. 243 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 4: So in a magical thinking way, nothing worse could happen. 244 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 4: And so when Dielia gets sick, he says, we can 245 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 4: do this, and he never leaves her side for one 246 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 4: hundred days in the hospital. And this is all true, 247 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 4: This all happened. I mean, there are emails that Peter Gallagher, 248 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 4: who plays Peter Rutter, and I say out loud to 249 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 4: each other that were lifted from their emails. I feel 250 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 4: so lucky to be a part of such a beautiful story. 251 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 4: And it's funny and it's also really gut wrenching. 252 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 3: So you laugh and you cry. That should be the experience. 253 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 3: That is what theeter's supposed to do. That's what art 254 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 3: is supposed to do. You know. One of the things 255 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,079 Speaker 3: that stuck out to me was that there is this 256 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 3: idea of what is it called a confluence of events 257 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 3: that happens, and like I've heard it called synchronicity as well. 258 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: They call it synchronicity too, yep. 259 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 3: And it felt to me that this happened to you 260 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 3: in such a confluence of events or syncratic way, because 261 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 3: you met Delia on the street because she lives by you, 262 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 3: and that's kind of how this happened, which is an 263 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 3: unbelievable moment. But that idea of fate or second chances, 264 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 3: the unknown even has sort of been a through line 265 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 3: in your life. I loved your book so much, called 266 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 3: Sunshine Girl, Oh thank you, but it's the full title 267 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 3: is A Sunshine Girl an Unexpected Life? 268 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: What is the Unexpected life? Part? 269 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 4: Never in a million years did I think that the 270 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 4: life I live now would be true to me, because 271 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 4: I came from such chaos and not without love. I 272 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 4: had tremendous love. 273 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 3: My mother. 274 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 4: Is a narcissist, she'll admit that to anyone, and her 275 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 4: needs came before her children. And they were divorced when 276 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 4: I was a very little girl. I was probably a 277 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 4: year old when they separated, and we moved all over. 278 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 4: We moved to England, we moved to France, we moved 279 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 4: back to New York, we moved back to England. I mean, 280 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 4: there was never any consistency or I never felt. 281 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: Held where I was. 282 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 4: I always felt like I had to figure out how 283 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 4: to hold on and keep going. So the life that 284 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 4: I have paved for myself through that journey. 285 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it makes sense now. 286 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 4: And when I was writing the book, I learned so 287 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 4: much more about myself, and so it was obvious to 288 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 4: me as I was writing the book. Of course, I 289 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 4: became an actor. I was always putting on someone else's shoes. 290 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 4: I was always trying to fit in to the right 291 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 4: culture or the right school, or the right accent or 292 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 4: the right like. I never felt that I belonged anywhere 293 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 4: because I was always an outlier. Sort of became my 294 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 4: superpower because I knew how to assimilate quickly anywhere. Anyhow, 295 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 4: I always thought once I became an adult, I was like, 296 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 4: so nothing worse could happen. It was like, you've been 297 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 4: through a lot worse, kid, you can do this. And 298 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 4: that's always my record in my head is like, you 299 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 4: can do this now. I think a lot of it 300 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 4: is also because no matter where we were, I always 301 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 4: had love. I was never abused, or we would be 302 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 4: living in the worst circumstances, and there was so much love. 303 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 4: It wasn't that I didn't feel wanted by them. It 304 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 4: was that I didn't feel wanted by my circumstances and 305 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 4: my school and my friends, and it made me insecure. 306 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, We're going to take a quick break, but we'll 307 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 3: be right back with Julianna Margalize. 308 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: We're back with actor Juliana Margalize. 309 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 3: Juliana, I want everyone to hear about how you and 310 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 3: Delia first connected. 311 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 4: How did you meet? So there I was in twenty 312 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 4: twenty one Sunshine Girl. An Unexpected Life had just come out, 313 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 4: but it was pandemic, so I couldn't do a book tour. 314 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 4: And I was walking my dog down Fifth Avenue and 315 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 4: I got to tenth Street and another dog was sniffing 316 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 4: my dog. And this woman saw me and she pulled 317 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 4: her mask down and she said, I loved your book. 318 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 4: My name's Deelia Efren. Oh my goodness. It was her 319 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 4: dog that was sniffing my dog. 320 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 3: And I heard that you always wanted to be a 321 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 3: part of an Efrine's sister's work, Yes, which is unbelievable. 322 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: I think they're movies. 323 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 4: Didn't you want to be in every movie of theirs 324 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 4: that you saw and be in their orbit? And you 325 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 4: know this idea, it's like it's of another era, because 326 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 4: romantic comedies they're off the forties and fifties, you know. 327 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: I don't know they were of the nineties. 328 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 3: Too. 329 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: I grew up with them. 330 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 4: Well, yes and yes, but the way they made them 331 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 4: was so beautifully old fashioned, even though it was two 332 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 4: people emailing each other, well, you know, it was. 333 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: The wrong coms when falling in love was cool? Yeah, 334 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: you know. Wow, that's such a great point. 335 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 3: But you're known for these really hyper dramatic, intense roles. 336 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: What kept you from doing a rom com all these years? 337 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: It's interesting, isn't it. 338 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 4: I think I think you get you get put in 339 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 4: a box sometimes, especially on a series, and with Carol Hathaway. 340 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 4: I loved playing her, and to this day, I'm so 341 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 4: happy that I was part of that group of people. 342 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 4: But you know, once you play the same character for 343 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 4: six years, I think people see you that way. 344 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: So when casting a. 345 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 4: Movie, they go, oh, Julianne would be great for the 346 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 4: dramatic role. They it would never think of me as 347 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 4: the funny person. I also think I think drama comes 348 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 4: easy easy to me because I come from drama. 349 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 3: You know, we've talked a little bit about chance, but 350 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 3: you mentioned Carol Hathaway, your iconic character on Er, and 351 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 3: I was reading that that role kind of came about 352 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 3: by chance. 353 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: Will you share that story? 354 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 355 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: I auditioned for a recurring character. 356 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 4: I blew that audition because I was angry at the 357 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 4: casting director because they made me wait two hours and 358 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 4: I had two other auditions to go to and I didn't. 359 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 4: I hate being late, so I blew the audition and 360 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 4: I went in kind of snarky in the audition. I 361 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 4: was twenty five years old, so I would play things 362 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 4: very differently now. And then he said, you're not right 363 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 4: for that part, but there's a guest starring role in 364 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 4: the pilot. We'd love you to come back and audition 365 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 4: for her. Name's Carol Hathaway. And she dies right, and 366 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 4: I said fine, and I got the part, and I 367 00:19:55,400 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 4: died in the pilot. And then my sweet friend George Clooney, 368 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 4: I don't know why he did it, but he called 369 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 4: and left me a message after I flew back to 370 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 4: New York, and he said, you might not die. 371 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: Your character tested really high. Don't take another job, and 372 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: you had another job lined up? I did. I had 373 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: another job on Homicide Life on the Street. 374 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 4: They were going to I had guest start on that 375 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 4: for two episodes, and they were going to bring me 376 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 4: back as a series regular. 377 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: So I called it. 378 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 4: Dear friend, of mine, and I said, I don't know 379 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 4: what to do, and he said, take the new show 380 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 4: because you never know, and this job will always be 381 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 4: here if you want it if it doesn't work out, 382 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 4: and lo and behold it worked out. 383 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: You know, in every single interview you do, whether you're 384 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 3: hung Kelly or Ellen, like anything that I look back on, 385 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 3: everybody asks you about George Clooney, and I understand why, 386 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 3: because he is George Clooney. 387 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: They also ask him about you all the time. 388 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 3: There's something about your friends show do oh yeah all 389 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 3: the time? 390 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 4: Oh my god, thank you for taking that, Danielle, because 391 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 4: I always wondered about that. 392 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, God, I always talk about George. I wonder 393 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: if they ever ask about. 394 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 3: Me they do well, I'm curious about because sometimes Hollywood 395 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 3: friendships they don't stand the test of time. Always yeah, 396 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 3: and yours with George really has. I'm wondering what that 397 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 3: was at the beginning, that click that because for him 398 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 3: to call you and leave a voicemail and then for 399 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 3: you to give up another job when you're kind of 400 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 3: a new actor who probably needs the money, there's a 401 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 3: lot of trust there. 402 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 4: So for me, because I was so new, it it 403 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 4: all First of all, he was so much fun on 404 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 4: the set, you know, and I'd never been on a 405 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 4: set like that. I had done one Law and Order, 406 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 4: I think, and I was petrified. That was the first 407 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 4: TV I ever did. I think he had done fourteen pilots, 408 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 4: and so he kept saying to all of us, you know, 409 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 4: I've done a lot of pilots, man, but this one 410 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 4: feels different. And I could tell that he had the experience. 411 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 4: He was also very warm and kind and friendly, and 412 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 4: I wasn't afraid to ask him questions, and so I 413 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 4: knew he was trustworthy. 414 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: And we all got along so well on the. 415 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 4: Pilot, and all had a big dinner when it ended, 416 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 4: and I waved literally like I said bye, everybody, ilays 417 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 4: go heading back to New York, and I said, good 418 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 4: luck with the pilot. 419 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch the show. Yeah. 420 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 4: So I felt like maybe he saw something in me 421 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 4: and my participation as a human being with the rest 422 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 4: of the actors that were the series regulars, that was 423 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 4: something different to maybe the girl who did get the 424 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 4: recurring role but her part didn't continue in mind did 425 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 4: so maybe it was a chemistry thing with acting, with 426 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 4: just liking each other. We liked each other off the bat. 427 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 4: He loved that I love to drive, and you know 428 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 4: he he used to be. 429 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. 430 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 4: I don't think he has anymore, but I know he 431 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 4: doesn't ride a motorcycle anymore because I scolded him on 432 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 4: that one, the last accident. I was like, you have 433 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 4: a wife and children, now, George, how about no? No 434 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 4: more a good friend. He's known for all these pranks 435 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 4: on set, did you pring? I never pranked him. I 436 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 4: always thought anyone pranks George Clooney is such an idiot, 437 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 4: because that would scare me to death. 438 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: I never ever pranked him. 439 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 4: I remember a couple of crew guys, you know, we 440 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 4: had on the set of The r Everything was real, 441 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 4: so we had lubricants and we had ivy drips and 442 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 4: everything was real. And I remember a bunch of crew 443 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 4: guys looped his trailer door knob and I was walking 444 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 4: by his trailer and I saw him trying to get 445 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 4: in and he couldn't grasp the door, and I thought, 446 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 4: whoever did that, They're going to die. And he waited, 447 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 4: he could wait a year before getting you back. And 448 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 4: I knew that about him, So no, I never pranked 449 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 4: George clooney. Patience is so deadly with a prankster. It's 450 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 4: such a deadly combination. Yeah, because if you have the 451 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 4: patience for it, then the person never knows when you're 452 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 4: going to strike. 453 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: That's so funny to me. 454 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 3: You know, you mentioned that you would ask him questions, 455 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 3: And I just saw a video of Jane Fonda on 456 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 3: stage somewhere speaking and she said, no actor I've ever 457 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 3: been on set with has ever asked me questions or 458 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 3: advice except for one person. And Meryl Streep was in 459 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 3: the audience and she said, Meryl asked me questions about 460 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 3: our craft. And I've heard you say that you've been 461 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 3: on set and nobody asks you questions. 462 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 4: It shocks me. My dad always said to me, there's 463 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 4: no such thing as a stupid question. Yeah, And I 464 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 4: think that is the best way to learn. And so 465 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 4: when you're on a set with people who have been 466 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 4: doing this for a long time, who know the ropes, 467 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 4: who are experienced, why wouldn't you ask questions? It's only 468 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 4: going to make your life richer. Let's just say you 469 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 4: don't even learn from it. You'll get a great story, 470 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 4: but you'll always learn from it. I think it's the 471 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 4: best lesson in life. 472 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: What do you think they're losing by not asking those questions? 473 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 4: What you're losing is a deeper trust within the relationship 474 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 4: that you're working on on screen than those characters, right, 475 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 4: Because if you feel really comfortable with the person you're 476 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 4: acting with, you're going to do better work because you're 477 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 4: gonna be braver, be Causon's got your back. And it's 478 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 4: when I say to Peter Gallagher all the time. I 479 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 4: love working with him so much because he worked with 480 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 4: some of the greats. He talks about Jack Lemon and 481 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 4: James Cagney and how generous they were with him as 482 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 4: a young, up and coming guy, and the lessons he 483 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 4: took from that. And I always say to him, you know, 484 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 4: I mean, he's done eleven Broadway shows. 485 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: This is only my second Broadway show. This is his eleventh. 486 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: So I ask him every question under the sun. 487 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 4: And it makes playing with him on stage every night 488 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 4: even more fun because he knows I trust him, and 489 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 4: I know he trusts me to listen, because acting is listening. 490 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: You don't really have to do much. I always equate 491 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: it to tennis. 492 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 3: You know. 493 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 4: It's like if someone hits a really hard and you're 494 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 4: not as strong or as good as they are. Really, 495 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,239 Speaker 4: all you have to do is put your racket out 496 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 4: and get it in the right position. Their power will 497 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 4: give your ball power, and that's acting. That's a great analogy. 498 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 4: So I think it's a missed opportunity on so many levels. 499 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 4: To get to know someone, to learn, and to feel safe, 500 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 4: you have to be brave, and I think brave people 501 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 4: ask questions, and I see it in their work. 502 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: I always think of a question as an invitation, and 503 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 3: that's why it feels vulnerable, because somebody could turn down 504 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 3: your invitation, but most of the time they don't. 505 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: So I completely agree with you. That's a great analogy. Yeah, 506 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: I agree. I agree. 507 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 3: We have another short break, but don't go anywhere. We'll 508 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 3: be right back with Juliana Margalise. And we're back with 509 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 3: Juliana Margalise. You have a new move be coming out 510 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 3: called Miller's in Marriage. It is so good. Your character 511 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 3: in the film deals with being an empty nester after 512 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 3: her kids go to college, and your son in real 513 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 3: life will be going off to college soon. How are 514 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 3: you feeling and are you considering how you're gonna want 515 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 3: to spend your time? I know you love to work, 516 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 3: But are you going to be traveling? Are you going 517 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 3: to be reading what's on your heart? 518 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 4: It's so interesting. And maybe it's because I had my 519 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 4: son later in life. I was forty when I got pregnant, 520 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 4: So it's not that I'm looking forward to him not 521 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 4: being here. I'm just looking forward to other doors opening 522 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 4: because he's not here. So, I mean, we have a 523 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 4: small family, but we're so interwoven that it will feel, 524 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 4: I'm sure in the beginning like my arm is missing. Yeah, 525 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 4: but the amount of work I've turned down over the 526 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 4: past seventeen years because it was out of the country 527 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:01,479 Speaker 4: or six months in another state won happen anymore. I 528 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 4: can now say yes to the play on the West End, 529 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 4: or to shooting a miniseries in Germany, or my husband's company. 530 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 4: Every month he's on another trip somewhere and he always says, 531 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 4: want to come, and I can, of course not, I'm 532 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 4: not coming. One of us has to be home with 533 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 4: the kid. I'll go on those trips, you know. I 534 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 4: look at it as, yes, it's going to be a 535 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 4: sad time in the beginning, just to get used to it. 536 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 4: But I'm also really good at adapting to change and 537 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 4: I'm really excited for him. I'm excited for him to 538 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 4: find his lane and discover who he is as a 539 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 4: man in the world, you know, And I always say 540 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 4: to him, nothing is more important than finding what brings 541 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 4: you joy, you know, like part of the Unexpected Life. 542 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 4: The subtitle of my book is that I never thought 543 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 4: I could make a living doing what I love. Few 544 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 4: people do, I know, And how luxurious is that to 545 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 4: be able to get up and go to work every 546 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 4: day and love what you do. 547 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 3: I think that is the element of your story that 548 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 3: keeps coming up for me when I was researching or 549 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 3: reading about you. Do you think about how much of 550 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 3: your life was like happened by chance or how much 551 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 3: was in your control? 552 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 4: How much was your perspective on it? I think a 553 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 4: lot of it is how the stars align. Er happened 554 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 4: when it did and how it did and with all 555 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 4: the other shows around it, right, you have to like, 556 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 4: it's hard to remember that fart back, but it's thirty 557 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 4: years ago that Er and Friends and Seinfeld and Cheers 558 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 4: were all on NBC on Thursday nights. It was the 559 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 4: Thursday night lineup. We've had so many golden eras of television, 560 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 4: but that was the golden era of television. That was like, 561 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 4: no one was out on a Thursday night. 562 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 3: Weren't like forty million people tuning in every week for you. 563 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, our pilot was a two hour pilot and it 564 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 4: had a forty four million viewership on his opening night. 565 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: It's like the suit a million. 566 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 4: That's yeah, that's Super Bowl numbers. So and that was 567 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 4: before you know, Cable was just starting. HBO hadn't quite 568 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 4: started yet. So that's luck, right, And also the way 569 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 4: the stars aligned with all of these actors mostly unknowns 570 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 4: except Anthony Edwards, who was known in the film world 571 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 4: but not in the TV world at all, and he 572 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 4: had never done television before. So all of those elements 573 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 4: that came into this one giant Petri dish and then 574 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 4: blossomed into this show that was such a mega hit worldwide. 575 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 4: And that my character that I was only supposed to 576 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 4: be on as a guest star in the pilot and die. 577 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 4: Anything could have happened to me if I hadn't gotten 578 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 4: that call from George who knows. And then even with 579 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 4: The Good Wife, the only reason I knew about The 580 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 4: Good Wife is because my agent at the time represented 581 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 4: an actress who turned it down, and she called me 582 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 4: and said, I have a script here that I think 583 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 4: is fantastic and I think you should read it. And 584 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 4: I read it and I said, oh my god, I 585 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 4: love it. Are they interested in me? And she said yes, 586 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 4: her client had turned it down. And I said, well, 587 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 4: I don't want to be sloppy seconds and she said 588 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 4: the best thing to me, she said, when you're up 589 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 4: on screen as Alicia Florik, no one's going to know 590 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 4: that anyone else. 591 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: Was supposed to play her, but you. 592 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 4: So again, I went in through the back door in 593 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 4: a certain way because I certainly wasn't their first choice. 594 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: And that's okay. I'm okay with that you were the 595 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: best choice, though, well you know, it worked out. And so. 596 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 4: I think for actors especially, it's hard not to walk 597 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 4: into the room with your ego. And I think the 598 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 4: most important thing you can do as an actor is 599 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 4: less go of ego. 600 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 3: That's so beautiful, Juliana, And I think the ego element 601 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 3: is so resonant, not just for actors, although I do 602 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 3: think that great acting is sort of like magic, because 603 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 3: you're you're having this like double life, almost your your 604 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 3: most vulnerable self, and at the same time a totally 605 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 3: different person. It's like an astonishing double act almost. I 606 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 3: love your love for the story and for the written word. 607 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: And I know your dad was a writer, and so 608 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: you have so much respect for the written word. 609 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 3: Your dad gave you a book of Mark Schighal art 610 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 3: and you said you love his work because his paintings 611 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 3: are joyful. And I've noticed in your interviews that word 612 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 3: joyful comes up a lot in different ways. Why do 613 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 3: you think you're seeking joy? Why does that come up? 614 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 3: So that's a great question. I didn't realize I used 615 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 3: it so much. So when I look at something, I 616 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 3: want to feel good. When I see art, or listen 617 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 3: to music, or watch film or theater, clothing, anything, I 618 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 3: think we're all really seeking joy. You know, we live 619 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 3: in a world where we have to seek out the joy. 620 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,719 Speaker 3: Joy doesn't seem to be the most natural element of 621 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 3: social media. 622 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 4: Joy doesn't get headlines, right, Tragedy gets headlines, gossip gets headlines, 623 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 4: maliciousness gets headlines. Joy doesn't. And yet most people, I 624 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 4: can pretty much guarantee if you ask them, would they 625 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 4: rather be sad or joyful? We'll tell you joyful. What's 626 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 4: bringing you joy? 627 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: Right now? 628 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 2: Oh? 629 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: My God, well, so many things. 630 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 4: I really get pleasure out of the littlest things in life. 631 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: That's a gift. 632 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 4: It's gonna sound so corny, but I love waking up 633 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 4: in the morning because I look forward to that first 634 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 4: sip of coffee in the morning. It brings me so 635 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 4: much joy. And my husband and happens to be a 636 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 4: much better coffee maker than I am, and he makes 637 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 4: the coffee in the morning and I smell it as 638 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 4: I'm waking up, and I just think everything is good 639 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 4: when I'd smell that coffee. And I have this I'm 640 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 4: addicted to word games and I play wordle with a 641 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 4: bunch of people. But it just brings me so much 642 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 4: joy in the morning because we're all connected, and I 643 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 4: like to start my day. I like to wake up 644 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 4: sort of just finding all the little things that bring 645 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 4: me joy before I have to go in and attack 646 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 4: the day and get to the lists of things I 647 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 4: have to do. And my family brings me tremendous joy. 648 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 4: Just walking my dog in the morning brings me joy 649 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 4: because you could be in the worst mood and go 650 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 4: and walk your dog and they do one thing and 651 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 4: they just make you smile. I always say, any person 652 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,439 Speaker 4: who suffers from sadness should get a dog because they're 653 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 4: so they bring you joy. And then, honestly, no matter 654 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 4: how tired I am and eight shows, we can be 655 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 4: a grind. 656 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: I cannot wait to get to work. 657 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 4: Wow, I love it so much. I always go backstage 658 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 4: when they yell five minutes before places. I like to 659 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 4: go because I have to tap dance in this I 660 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 4: had to learn how to tap dance. 661 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: That's awesome. 662 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 3: You get to add that to your resume and like 663 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 3: random skills, you know, like when you had to put 664 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 3: random skills when you're starting out and everyone lies and says, 665 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 3: I know how to ice skate. 666 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: She can do a soft shoe. Yes, yes. 667 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 4: I once did a mini series one of my favorite jobs. Actually, 668 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 4: it was called The Mists of Avalon, based on Marion 669 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 4: Zimmerman's book, and Uli Adele was our director, and he 670 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 4: had asked every single actor could they ride horses because 671 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 4: it was the only mode of transportation at that point 672 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 4: in time. He wanted to have these big, sweeping scenes 673 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 4: of galloping on horses with our silk robes. And I 674 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 4: was so excited because of course I was a horseback 675 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 4: rider yet. 676 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,439 Speaker 1: But when we got to progue. Where we shot the show. 677 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 4: There were quite a few actors who did not know 678 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 4: how to ride horses, and that track he couldn't use 679 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 4: them in the scenes. He even and he was like 680 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 4: he was He's German. I love him so much, but 681 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 4: it says, I was a resume. You ride a horse, 682 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:24,760 Speaker 4: but you look like you're bumping around. And Jelaicae Houston 683 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 4: and I were in that together, and of course she's 684 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 4: a very accomplished question and so he loved that she 685 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 4: and I can really ride, so he could just send 686 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 4: us out with second unit and he was like, oh, gallop. 687 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 4: But I always say, like, don't write anything you can't do, 688 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 4: because you will be asked to do it. 689 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: And still everyone does. Still everyone does because they want 690 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 1: the job. 691 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 3: One of the coolest things about being an actor is 692 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 3: I think when you get to the end of your life, 693 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 3: you are one of the most interesting people in the world. 694 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 3: Like you understand you have all these hobbies, you understand 695 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 3: things about almost every culture, and like you you have 696 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 3: all these skills. 697 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. You have to dive in. 698 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 4: You have to learn about the person you're playing, so 699 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 4: you have to learn all those things, and it is 700 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 4: You're right. I'm always amazed that I get paid. 701 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 1: To learn new things every day. You're amazing. 702 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining us on the bright 703 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 3: Side today. Juliana Oh, I loved it, Danielle, it was 704 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 3: so fun. Juliana Margalize is an actor and author. Her 705 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 3: Broadway show Left on Tenth is playing in New York 706 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 3: and will wrap its limited run on February second. You 707 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 3: can catch her film Miller's in Marriage in theaters and 708 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 3: on digital on Friday, February twenty first. 709 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 2: That's it for today's show. Tomorrow, we're learning how to 710 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 2: Pause your career with power. 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