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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast, the number one show

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Speaker 1: for the invested sports fan. All right, here we go.

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Speaker 2: Right in the court ten seconds of eight, so we

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Speaker 2: just go through out of the basket, under the basket.

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Speaker 1: Stop a seven second words, it's the crew, the win,

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Speaker 1: God go a miracle. I just come order if that

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Speaker 1: one from the parking lot, shut it off. It's Codge basketball.

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Speaker 3: It's not the sage on the dog in the fight,

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Speaker 3: it's the size of the fight in the dog.

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Speaker 1: What's up the general nation? Welcome to the Action Network Podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is the college basketball betting Preview. I'm and with

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Speaker 1: me as always is Colin Wilson and joining us today

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Speaker 1: a special guest that you may recall from last year,

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Speaker 1: Eli Hirshkevich, has joined us for today since Randall cannot

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Speaker 1: make it. He's away for the weekend. What's going on? Eli?

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Speaker 3: Going on?

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Speaker 1: Guys?

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Speaker 2: Hopefully we don't get into a little Oregon fight tonight,

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Speaker 2: but we'll try your dugs.

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Speaker 1: I love Oregon and that's all I gotta say. My

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Speaker 1: question is anybody did anybody bring a whistle?

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Speaker 3: Because I just him coming off in Arkansas, South Carolina

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Speaker 3: and then fifty seven personal fouls where the entire roster

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Speaker 3: either had four files or five fouls.

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Speaker 1: Amazing game. Well, look, if I'm saying fuck your Ducks,

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Speaker 1: that means that at least I care about the Ducks, right,

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Speaker 1: at least they're in the conversation. I don't think anyone's

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Speaker 1: out there saying fuck your Hogs because no one cares.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, Arkansas took another loss last night at home loss.

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Speaker 1: So South Carolina team that's really coming on. It feels

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Speaker 1: like they do this every year in conference play. They'll

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Speaker 1: take some horrid losses out of conference, and they did

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Speaker 1: that once again this year, and then they will have

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Speaker 1: a long winning streaking conference including who went over Kentucky.

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Speaker 1: I didn't catch that game last night. Colin Randall wanted

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Speaker 1: to give you shit about your boy Cup of Joe

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Speaker 1: missing a shot and so how did it play out?

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Speaker 1: Should they have won? What are your thoughts on the

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Speaker 1: team and where they're headed right now? Whoo pig suye,

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Speaker 1: Colin's talking razorback basketball.

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Speaker 3: Well, first off, with South Carolina, I think there don't

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Speaker 3: quote me on this eleven and one against the spread

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Speaker 3: on the road.

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Speaker 1: So they've just been fantastic on the road.

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Speaker 3: And I know that the opening number went to nine,

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Speaker 3: it got down to six and a half, and I

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Speaker 3: thought it went too far because once I saw Isaiah

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Speaker 3: Joe warming up two hours before game time, hitting threes

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Speaker 3: from all over the court, I thought, well, here we go.

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Speaker 3: We're going to break out of the funk tonight. You know,

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Speaker 3: mister volume, Mason Jones is going to hit his threes.

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Speaker 1: Mason Jones.

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Speaker 3: All of Arkansas's inefficiencies were on display. We can't rebound whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: We're bigger than this team, which is amazing, and South

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Speaker 3: Carolina still out rebounded us Arkansas when they go cold

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Speaker 3: from the three point line, which we have been for

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Speaker 3: like four games in a row now. Anybody in the

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Speaker 3: country can beat us, and we can't beat anybody. And

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Speaker 3: the defenses sagged around the arc, and I think we

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Speaker 3: talk about benchminutes being a real problem with this team,

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Speaker 3: the fact that they have such a low rotation without

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Speaker 3: Isaiah Joe's early only six guys that play. The end

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Speaker 3: of February, I thought Arkansas was going to fade, but

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Speaker 3: I think we're already getting there. We've got inflammation in

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Speaker 3: the knees, we've got huge cold streaks of shooting. So

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Speaker 3: Arkansas has a definite stay away team and maybe go

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Speaker 3: look for those n it props that are jumping around

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Speaker 3: Vegas these days.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't look great for Arkansas, but I mean

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Speaker 1: it's ye're one of Musselman. You want to give him

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Speaker 1: some time, and yeah they do. Just to me, they

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Speaker 1: seem extremely three point reliant, right and if the threes

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Speaker 1: are falling, you know, they can upset anybody. And I

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Speaker 1: believe that they're a good perimeter team. But they're holding

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Speaker 1: teams a twenty four point six percent from three. That's

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Speaker 1: historically great. You'd expect some regression there even if they

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Speaker 1: are perimeter defense team. And with that, they've still lost

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Speaker 1: South Carolina really hurts. They're at Alabama next, a good

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Speaker 1: A good spot if you assume they lose that game,

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Speaker 1: Auburn this year, but that's probably a good spot. That's

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Speaker 1: a huge game to determine where their season goes.

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Speaker 3: Especially with Auburn coming off a huge game that they've

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Speaker 3: got coming up to, right, Auburn against Kentucky kind of

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Speaker 1: Will Alburn be in after they get out of that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a great spot on Saturday. All right, let's transition

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Speaker 1: over to Eli's and just to give people heads up

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Speaker 1: on what we're gonna cover. We're gonna just cover the

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Speaker 1: Big East. We're gonna talk to the Big East teams.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about the week that was, yell at some teams.

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Speaker 1: We'll circle a couple of spots on Friday end or Saturday,

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Speaker 1: and then talk any futures that we've added and then

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Speaker 1: get out of here. But before we get into any

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Speaker 1: of that, Eli, let's talk to your ducks. You and

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Speaker 1: I have a friendly duck rivalry on Twitter. And your Ducks,

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Speaker 1: Oh man, they own me. Last week I took who

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Speaker 1: I Have UCLA. That game was over before it started,

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Speaker 1: so they looked impressive there. It's a team you know

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Speaker 1: that has it's well coached. You know, it's a team

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Speaker 1: that I always do like in the tournament right and

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Speaker 1: then and because Allman's going to switch up his defenses

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Speaker 1: a lot, He's going to give teams different looks. It's

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Speaker 1: a hard an all team is always a hard team

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Speaker 1: to prepare for in short rest, you know, especially out

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Speaker 1: of Conference, we're not used to seeing Oregon, So from

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Speaker 1: that perspective, I like them. Then obviously you have like

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Speaker 1: I think that's what it could come down to. It's,

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Speaker 1: you know, a team with so much parody this year,

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Speaker 1: or you know, Pricher, someone catching fire and then in

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Speaker 1: these close games in the sweet sixteen, lead eight, final four,

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I don't love Rutgers in

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Speaker 1: the tournament. Right. They have great defense, they do a

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Speaker 1: lot of things. Well, I think they're top twenty five team,

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Speaker 1: But who's their go to guy at the end, right,

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Speaker 1: they need it. I think they're lacking that department. Oregon

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Speaker 1: does have that. But if you look at their resume, right,

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Speaker 1: a lot of lucky wins. That's why I always give

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Speaker 1: you shit about them. If won a number of games

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Speaker 1: give me your general feel for your ducks. You know,

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Speaker 1: I have your mindset on them changed and what they

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Speaker 1: could end up haunting them. What are your thoughts there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if you go back to the Maui

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Speaker 2: Invitational when they play Seaton Haul, they come back and

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Speaker 2: it was like an eighteen point depposite. They beat your

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Speaker 2: Miles Powell, who I'm now invested in. I now invested

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Speaker 1: They try to hurt them that game or something. I

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Speaker 1: feel like they try to trip them. That's where my

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Speaker 1: vendetta started with the Ducks. I think they did. I

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Speaker 1: got to go back and find this out because that's

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Speaker 1: that's my fuel, and it's been so long I'm losing

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Speaker 1: my fire. That's why I forgot about that, all right.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, Yeah, I think that they like someone try

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Speaker 1: to trip them or something. But aahad, I'll let you go.

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Speaker 1: You can't trip Trent, that's for sure. You can't trip

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Speaker 1: up Miles Power. I'm with you now now that I

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Speaker 1: have a bet on seat and Haul. That's inexcusable.

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Speaker 2: But the Gonzaga loss is really impressive because that was

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Speaker 2: another comeback. I know they lost to UNC the game

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Speaker 2: you look at some of their overtime losses, their overtime

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Speaker 2: wins over Arizona Washington USC again impressive. The USC one

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Speaker 2: I wasn't too concerned about. I know that was last

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Speaker 2: Thursday and they needed to come back in overtime to

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Speaker 2: do that. USC makes the second half comeback, but they

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Speaker 2: had the lead, they blew it. That's you know, an

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Speaker 2: half is one I would consider more lucky than when

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Speaker 2: where you have the lead and then you just flow it.

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Speaker 2: The Trojans come back. They were hot coming into that

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Speaker 2: game too. But my biggest issue with the Ducks is

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Speaker 2: defensively because they're eighty second in adjusted defensive efficiency. They've

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Speaker 2: been floating back and forth like seventies even right around

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Speaker 2: the one hundredth mark across.

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Speaker 1: The conference either right exactly as the board right.

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Speaker 2: Besides like a Stanford and Stanford started to regress already too.

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Speaker 1: I think we all saw that coming.

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Speaker 2: But Stanford's a pretty upp Rauhalan team defensively regardless of

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Speaker 2: the conference, but Oregon's defense.

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Speaker 1: But that's the question.

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Speaker 2: You have Peyton Pritchard, you have Chris Duarte who started

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Speaker 2: to come on offensive leagues, creating turnovers and break it

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Speaker 2: on in transition to get his offense going. Anthony Mathis

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Speaker 2: has completely regressed from what he was in non conference

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Speaker 2: play after that big game at Michigan and fully Dante

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Speaker 2: really developed into the kind of player that I thought

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Speaker 2: he would be when I invested in Duck's futures. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, defense is my biggest issue though overall offense

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Speaker 2: travels in the tournament. Peyton Pritchard, you need that kind

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Speaker 2: when you try to double him because he gets so

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Speaker 2: low on his dribble drive. But yeah, man, defenses is

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Speaker 2: the worry, and I don't know if they could turn

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Speaker 2: more athletic pieces around the basket with shop blockers, So

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Speaker 2: that's that's my biggest concern.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you'd have to hope that you know,

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Speaker 1: it obviously comes together, but then there's some scheme component

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Speaker 1: that boosts their defense right from allman where it's you know,

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Speaker 1: you're playing these teams that aren't familiar with you. What

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Speaker 1: is the status on Dante. I haven't even looked for

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Speaker 1: an update on him real he's out right now. What's

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Speaker 1: the what's the prognosis for when he could come back? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think he's supposed to come back here over the

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Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. He's been quote unquote day to day.

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Speaker 1: According to Dana Altman.

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Speaker 2: I mean even when he was healthy like he was,

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Speaker 2: he was a big defensive liability. Going back to that,

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Speaker 2: he was on the floor again, his post moves haven't

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Speaker 2: really developed. And now that he's been off the floor

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Speaker 2: for you know, a couple of weeks now, even playing

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Speaker 2: limited minutes before that, I don't consider him to be

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Speaker 2: a big piece in March. Maybe he's a rim protector

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Speaker 2: that could be huge for the Ducks in the tournament,

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Speaker 2: But the status of Dante moving forward East, she should

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Speaker 2: come back over the next couple of weeks, but it's

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Speaker 2: not a determining factor to me if Oregon can make

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Speaker 3: No, I personally think Saint John's is out of everything completely,

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Speaker 1: He's just baiting in these DePaul losses, Like just do

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Speaker 1: Man. I don't care about the Paul basketball anymore. I

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Speaker 2: But Charlie Moore, you know, Colin brought up a really

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Speaker 3: And to add on to that, Xavier's lost five of

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Speaker 1: So I mean, you can cross these guys off, way

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a deep team, double overtime game, quick

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, completely agree. So I think that those are

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Speaker 1: been a lot better at home, but they're starting to

434
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Speaker 1: lose close home games that they won early in conference play.

435
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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on Georgetown? I heard you've grown, Colin,

436
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Speaker 1: So what was you thought on the last.

437
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Speaker 3: Well, if we can fast forward to the hate section

438
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Speaker 3: of the podcast where we're gonna moan about some teams,

439
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna moan about Georgetown.

440
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Speaker 1: All right, let it out. This is your rant of

441
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Speaker 1: the week.

442
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Speaker 3: So two weeks ago, I had like one of the

443
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Speaker 3: worst betting saturdays I've had in college basketball. Last week,

444
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Speaker 3: I'm just pushing money back and forth across the counter,

445
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Speaker 3: and Tuesday night I'm working on like my first sweep

446
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Speaker 3: of the college basketball slate. To end it, Georgetown going

447
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Speaker 3: on against Butler. Right, so we get to halftime. Patrick

448
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,719
Speaker 3: Ewing gets to halftime forty three, thirty two and eleven

449
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 3: point lead, forty three to thirty two. Butler got to

450
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Speaker 3: forty five before Georgetown did. They lost seven first ten

451
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Speaker 3: minutes unbelievable. And I knew all the warts coming into

452
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Speaker 3: the game. I knew they were worse in the conference

453
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Speaker 3: and defensive efficiency worse than opponent field goal percentage. And

454
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Speaker 3: you're right, they're the worst in the conference in defending

455
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Speaker 3: the arc, but they're top twenty five in the nation

456
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Speaker 3: and offensive efficiency. And I just I mean, you get

457
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Speaker 3: an eleven point lead and to not get to forty

458
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Speaker 3: five before Butler does. I think Patrick Ewing deserves just

459
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 3: half of a paycheck, whatever his salary is. He should

460
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Speaker 3: only get paid for the first half because he didn't

461
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Speaker 3: come out of the locker room for the second half

462
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Speaker 3: and just had a terrible showing. But I mean, they're

463
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Speaker 3: three point percentage rank there two hundred ninety second. It's

464
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Speaker 3: not going to cut it. So I think you're right.

465
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Speaker 3: I think they're an IT bound and defense they've got

466
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Speaker 3: to get better because I mean we're talking not just

467
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Speaker 3: last in the conference, but one of the worst in

468
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Speaker 3: the nation.

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Speaker 1: I'm with both of you guys.

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Speaker 2: After they had four guys lead the program again, Colin

471
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Speaker 2: mentioned their defense.

472
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Speaker 1: It's been woeful.

473
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Speaker 2: They needed that game against Butler they have any shot

474
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Speaker 2: of making the tournament. But Vic Deermott got hot in

475
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Speaker 2: that game. He's been getting hot of the last couple

476
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Speaker 2: for the Bulldogs. So yeah, that second half really was

477
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Speaker 2: probably the end of their chances of making the tournament.

478
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Speaker 1: So I think that those are the clear four teams

479
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Speaker 1: that we don't think will end up making the tournament.

480
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Speaker 1: I think all four still have You guys might disagree

481
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: with one or two of them, but those teams will

482
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Speaker 1: have to make a big run, I think, and then

483
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Speaker 1: pull off a couple big upsets to I think, get

484
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Speaker 1: in the tournament and to keep it by With Saint

485
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 1: John's for what it's worth, just if you're wondering how

486
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 1: these teams play, they're one of the fastest teams in

487
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: the country, right with Anderson. They want to play your

488
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 1: your forty minutes of hell. They cause a lot of turnovers.

489
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,199
Speaker 1: They don't turn it over, but they can't shoot, but

490
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 1: they play really fast. And then they scrabble. And I

491
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: played Saint John's against Nova, and we'll get to Nova,

492
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: who was really impressive in that game. But one of

493
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Speaker 1: the looking back, one of the dumb things you kind

494
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 1: of hint touched on this eli the dumb things about

495
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 1: that play for me, even though it was a great spot.

496
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Speaker 1: It's Samuel out for Nova. Was just Saint John's plays

497
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 1: this you know, helter skelter type of defense, and they're

498
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 1: trying to cause turnovers, right, They're trying to speed up

499
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Speaker 1: the game. It also hurts their three point defense when

500
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Speaker 1: teams get into the half court and when they break,

501
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Speaker 1: you know, any press that Saint John's is throwing out there.

502
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Speaker 1: And Villanova is such a well connected you know, they

503
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Speaker 1: share the ball so well and they pass it. They

504
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Speaker 1: always make the extra pass, which is just spells disaster

505
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Speaker 1: against the scrambling Saint John's defense. Before we get to

506
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Speaker 1: the top half of the conference, here's a team that

507
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: just it feels like they're underachieving. And in Providence, right,

508
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 1: they're eleven and ten on the year, they're five hundred

509
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Speaker 1: in conference. They've lost three straight. They lost that Seaton

510
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: Hall competitive ish game, they lost that Creton competitive game,

511
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: they lost at home to Villanova, competitive ish game. And

512
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 1: you know they're at Butler next big game for them,

513
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Speaker 1: and then home against Creighton. So it's a team that

514
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Speaker 1: I think I just love too much. I don't know,

515
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: it feels like they're underperforming to me. It's a team

516
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: that just is so experienced. They brought so much back,

517
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: they have so much height. I love the way that

518
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 1: they play defense, but they just can't put the ball

519
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: into the peach basket. And at the end of the day,

520
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: that's kind of the name of the game. I mean,

521
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Speaker 1: I know they couldn't shoot threes, but they can't make

522
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 1: layups some games, and it's so frustrating this team. Eli

523
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: again going on on the friars.

524
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, go back to last Saturday, man, And this

525
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 2: is a problem when you're betting, because you try not

526
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 2: to let games carry over to the next game you bet, right,

527
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Speaker 2: But a team like Villanova should have lost that game

528
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Speaker 2: to Providence if David Duke had a full brain instead

529
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 2: of half a brain down the stretch. So maybe that

530
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 2: was a bad, bad call on our end with Saint

531
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: John's as well on Tuesday, but yeah, I mean, they

532
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 2: should have gotten the ball more than Nate Watson down

533
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Speaker 2: the stretch. And if you think about the on the

534
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 2: baseline again again, this is going back to Saturday. Last

535
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Speaker 2: Saturday with Providence of Villanova two slips on the baseline.

536
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 2: It takes two slips for the referee finally to wipe

537
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Speaker 2: up the floor instead of one and both both resulting

538
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Speaker 2: in turnovers for the Friars. I don't think they led

539
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Speaker 2: to baskets for Nova, but maybe Providence ties the game

540
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 2: or gets a little bit closer. So I agree. I

541
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Speaker 2: like this team a lot. And you have you know

542
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Speaker 2: what if Nate Watson was on in Arizona or you know,

543
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 2: an upper echelon team like a duke. I don't know

544
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Speaker 2: if he'd be first team All American, but he is

545
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 2: damn good when he stay, stays out of foul trouble,

546
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 2: and when he's healthy. He was dominant in that game

547
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Speaker 2: against Villanova. They just didn't get the ball to him enough.

548
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Speaker 2: And then you also think about it what i'd Cooley

549
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 2: decided to do not playing Alpha Diallo. I know we

550
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 2: got in fouled trouble early, but that's one of your

551
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 2: best offensive players and they were missing a playmaker down

552
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Speaker 2: the stretch.

553
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Speaker 1: So I agree, man, I like this team defensively.

554
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 2: I think we have a good spot this weekend with

555
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 2: the Friars to coming up on Saturday. To be honest,

556
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: but I Coolly in this team just frustrates the hell

557
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Speaker 2: out of me.

558
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Levy, I was just gonna say it could be

559
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: a value team We'll get to this later on. There

560
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: could be a team with value to win the biggest tournament.

561
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Speaker 1: We've seen Providence make these runs before, but this is

562
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Speaker 1: a team that I don't know how they get to

563
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 1: the tournament now they're five hundred conference. Remember, they were

564
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: unfathomably bad to start the year that I couldn't figure

565
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: it out. Losses to Penn at home, Long Beach State

566
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: on a neutral Charleston on a neutral Northwestern on the road.

567
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: They lost of Rhode Island on the road. Not terrible,

568
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: but those aren't good good losses out of conference, and

569
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Speaker 1: their wins were Sacred Heart, Njit, Saint Peter's, Merymack, Pepperdine, Stonybrook,

570
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: and then Texas. So I mean their resume is pretty awful,

571
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Speaker 1: but it could be a team that makes a run

572
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: in the biggest tournament at con which you want to

573
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Speaker 1: throw out there.

574
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean kim Pom's gotten projected to lose their

575
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 3: next eight in a row. They've got four of their

576
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: next six on the road, so I mean it's going

577
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 3: to be tough sledding for these guys. I do love

578
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 3: one of their attributes to the best team in the

579
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 3: conference and offensive rebounding. But it just feels like this

580
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 3: is a different kind of college basketball season. It seems

581
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 3: like everybody can play a little bit of defense, and

582
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 3: really it's the offensive component that's really been missing this season.

583
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Speaker 3: And it's not that many teams that go over that

584
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 3: one hundred and fourteen adjusted offensive efficiency qualifier that we

585
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 3: have we look forward to to base our predictions on,

586
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 3: like Final four, national champion all that, and this is

587
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 3: just one of the teams that can't get it done.

588
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean with Providence, look to go back

589
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: to that another game three of twenty three, like make

590
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: a shot eventually someone The resume isn't great. All right,

591
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 1: Let's get to two teams that I rate pretty similarly

592
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: in mark Quette and Creighton. You know the story with Creighton,

593
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: and if you guys want to jumped in with anything

594
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,719
Speaker 1: after I'm done with both of these team. You know,

595
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: their offense is really good. You could argue that maybe

596
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: it's the best offense. If you look at kempom, they're

597
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: probably number one, right, Yeah, let me check out the

598
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: number one in efficiency in the conference, and we want

599
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 1: to affect the field goal percentage. They're top ten offense

600
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: inefficiency overall this season. Their defense not great. They also

601
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: can't rebound, which is a major problem, and you know,

602
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: defending at the rim could be an issue. So it's

603
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: just like all offense, no defense with this team. They're

604
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 1: kind of the polar opposite of Providence in a way.

605
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: But this team is headed in an okay direction. They've

606
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,959
Speaker 1: won four or five, but it's been over Xavier, Providence

607
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: to Paul and Xavier again of their wins with a

608
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: loss on the road to Georgetown. They're now going to

609
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: Nova and then to Providence, two big games for great

610
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: I think they're safely in the tournament. It's all offense,

611
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: no defense. I don't trust them to get enough stops,

612
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: key stops when it matters to make a deep run

613
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: in the tournament. They actually match up semi decent with

614
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 1: Villanova and we'll get to Nova, and they had that

615
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: game locked up if you were called. They played Villanova

616
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: at home a couple of weeks ago. Villanova went on

617
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: a big run at the end of that game. They

618
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: were down I think like fifteen at the half too.

619
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 1: Villanova wasn't came back to win. So there could be

620
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: some value with Creighton here because Villanova's running pretty well.

621
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: We'll get to the Wildcats, but I know I love

622
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: some of their offensive players, Zagorowski, Alexander, but I just

623
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: don't know if think it stops. And that's that's where

624
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: I stand with Creighton. I guess before I get to

625
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: Marquette Eli, anything on on that you want to say

626
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: with Creighton when your thoughts on.

627
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 2: Them, I'm with you, man, like I love this offense.

628
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 2: Alexander can shoot the hell out of the out of

629
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 2: the ball. I was watching that that great Xavier game

630
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: on Sunday and every single three he got on a

631
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: catch and shoot.

632
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: He didn't miss, he gets hot. It's light.

633
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it's it's over. And Zagorowski shoot can attack

634
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: out the balance. Ohone isn't a great shooter, but what

635
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: he brings is again another guy that can attack the

636
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 2: basket in and if you have him on the floor

637
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: as well, that just creates more floor space and IMP's

638
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: dribble driving because you have to you have to pay

639
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: attention to him on the attack. But defensively, that's the

640
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: biggest issue in rebounding. That's another thing. I know we're

641
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 2: going to talk about Villanova Clayton later on, and I

642
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: know it's a rematch, you're going to see adjustments creating,

643
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 2: especially what happened in that second half. That was just

644
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: another typical Villanova second half comeback under Jay Wright. But

645
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 2: if you can't rebound against a Villanova team that can

646
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 2: slow you down and still operate so efficiently in the

647
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: half court, that's the issue. If Creaton is forced to

648
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: play half court basketball in the tournament, I don't see

649
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: how they can win even a game like they're on

650
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 2: upset watch.

651
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: It's similar to Auburn, who I fricking hate.

652
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 2: I would love to come out with you guys that

653
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: we talked us if you've already talked SEC.

654
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: But that's another team that I despise.

655
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: So if they can't play in transition for let's say

656
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: thirty is minutes of the game, three fourths of the game,

657
00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: they're in trouble.

658
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. Anything on Creighton com I actually love this team.

659
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 3: I mean I have them circle to take a future

660
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 3: on them after February twelfth, because they have a pretty

661
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 3: brutal schedule coming up with Villanova, Providence coming.

662
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: Up, then Sell on February twelfth, So you know, two

663
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: of the best teams in the conference over the next

664
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Speaker 1: four games, with three of the four on the road,

665
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: So that's a pretty good yeah spot. This is a

666
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: circle before game against the Paul. Yeah, this is the

667
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: best offensive team in the league.

668
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 3: I mean, they're seventh nationally and adjusted offensive efficiency, they're

669
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 3: the best three point shooting team in the conference, their

670
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 3: best two point percentage and free throw shooting. So I mean,

671
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 3: all you have to do is get hot, you know,

672
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 3: in the tournament, and it can take you far. Because

673
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 3: Eli mentioned Auburn and you know, we saw, you know,

674
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 3: a team that kind of had a similar offensive agenda

675
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 3: last year go pretty far. So I think I'm waiting

676
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,239
Speaker 3: until they get through the bulk of their schedule here

677
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 3: and then assessing a future. See how they do against

678
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 3: Butler and Seaton Hall.

679
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that over team could at least force turnovers on

680
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: defense and pressure you. This a future on Creighton com

681
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I don't want. I don't want

682
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: a future on Grayton, But I agree that that's the

683
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: spot that you might want to look to see what

684
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: their prices in the market with you know, three of

685
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,239
Speaker 1: their next four on the road, two of which are

686
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: at Seaton Hall in at Nova. But this seems very

687
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: off brand of you. It's a team that can't rebound

688
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: and doesn't really play great defense, but they shoot. They did.

689
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: They're a great shooting team. I think, I think great,

690
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: I think you know. I mean, it is.

691
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 3: Off brand for me because I love offensive rebounds, I

692
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 3: love playing defense. I love having defense around the perimeter.

693
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 3: They're twenty seventh in the nation and defending three point percentage.

694
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I know, the rest of their defensive stats

695
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 3: are pretty bad. They're three hundred and fifteenth in bloss

696
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 3: or you know, they're outside of the top one hundred

697
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 3: and fifteen almost everything. But they do defend the arc

698
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 3: very well. I mean, they're twenty seventh in the nation

699
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 3: and you know, and they can shoot it themselves. So

700
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 3: I mean, if they get hot at the end, and

701
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that they're going to win it all,

702
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 3: but I'm saying, if the numbers outrageous, this is a

703
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 3: team that, you know, I think is a four set

704
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 3: of five seed, a five seat in bracketology right now.

705
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:47,479
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a team that is going to make

706
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 3: the tournament. It's a team that if they catch fire

707
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 3: with their shooting, at least they can defend a bunch

708
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 3: of other teams that want to play you know three,

709
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: but I mean Eli's right. You know, if they get

710
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 3: cut into a half court situation, they're in They're in

711
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 3: deep trouble. But at the same time, if they get

712
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 3: a bunch of teams that just want to run shoot

713
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: threes all day, this is the team that I want

714
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 3: because they defend the arc really well and they shoot

715
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 3: it really well.

716
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to Marquette. Really interesting team

717
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: that's kind of growing on me. I think that that

718
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: that win in Xavior. I think a lot of it

719
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: was about Xavier melting some bad calls. But you have

720
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: to give credit to Marquette on the road without Marcus Howard,

721
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: you know, coming back and winning that game, and I

722
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: think it's going to do a lot for their confidence. Specifically,

723
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: you know, Kobe mcew and the Utah State transfer has

724
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: been really good. And I thought this Marquete team coming

725
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: into the year was going was basically going to be

726
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: a one man band with Marcus Howard. But the car

727
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: Adam has been a lot better offensively, especially of late,

728
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: than I thought. And you know, he's it's a McEwan.

729
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: I mean, his his offensive game has looked better and

730
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: better of late, you know, I mean Brendan Bailey has

731
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: given them more than I thought as a sophomore, and

732
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: you know he can kind of stretch the floor as

733
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: well if THEO John can stay out of foul trouble.

734
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: He's a nice presence in the middle defensively. So it's

735
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: a team that's growing. I mean then mainly because their

736
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: role players are playing a little better than I anticipated.

737
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Speaker 1: And then you have the wild card of Marcus Howard,

738
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: who can just go off for fifty realistically on any

739
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: given night, and in the tournament you have a guy

740
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Speaker 1: like that, You're dangerous against anybody. Thoughts on Marquette Eli.

741
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm with you, especially with Kobe McEwing because

742
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: if you think about last year's team, they were three

743
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: point reliants similar to what they are this season. But

744
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: the ewing gives him another ball handler, a guy that

745
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 2: can attack the basket, and Marquette gets to the line

746
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: a lot P thirty in college basketball and field goals attempted.

747
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: So the addition of McEwing has been big to give

748
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: Howard a little bit of break so he could play

749
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: off ball a little bit. My only issue is with Marquette.

750
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 2: I have a couple, but with Maro gone because he's

751
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: off the team now and I know he was coming

752
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,239
Speaker 2: off the bench, but they do lack size. So if

753
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:02,239
Speaker 2: THEO John gets infestial trouble and Bailey's Bailey's been a

754
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 2: decent rebounder this season. He could also speace the floor,

755
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: so they's been big. He's first season with the Golden

756
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: Eagles at least playing this much. But yeah, I'm my

757
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: concern with with Marquette surprisingly isn't secondary offense finding it

758
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: when you're three point shot isn't going. It's rebounding the

759
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: ball with a little bit of a lack of size.

760
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Speaker 1: Yep, any thoughts on Marquete com Yeah, I'm completely opposite

761
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: of you, guys, like I want to fade these guys

762
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: because if you look at last year's team.

763
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 3: With the question was would Marcus Howard would he run

764
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 3: out of gas at the end, they lost their last

765
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 3: four conference games. They were bounced in their second game

766
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 3: in the conference tournament and they lost to Murray State

767
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 3: and they were bounced out of that too, And it

768
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 3: seems like, you know, some of these stats that I'm

769
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 3: looking at, you know, they live and die on a

770
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 3: three points shot, and if they face anybody with a

771
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: perimeter defense, they can be beat. And that's what I

772
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 3: just said about Creighton is that they do have a

773
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 3: perimeter defense. And they beat Marquette ninety two to seventy

774
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 3: five earlier this year, and they have another game coming up.

775
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 3: But you know, besides home wins against Purdue and Nova,

776
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 3: Marquette has folded against upper level competition. They lost to

777
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 3: twenty one against Maryland, like I said, seventeen eight and

778
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,959
Speaker 3: fourteen to seat In Hall. And Marcus Howard takes forty

779
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 3: two point six percent of the shots on Marquette. That

780
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 3: rings first nationally. That's up from last year when he

781
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 3: was only, you know, seventh in the nation in the

782
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 3: amount of shots that he took for his team. He's

783
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 3: now number one player in the country as far as

784
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 3: you know, you know, how many shots get up for

785
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 3: his entire team. And you just got to wonder where

786
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 3: they're going to be as we get towards the end

787
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: of the season because last year, I mean, they it

788
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 3: was a shipwreck. I mean, they they went off the

789
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 3: tracks at the end of the season. And I think

790
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 3: when they face teams that can defend the arc, it's

791
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 3: going to be problems.

792
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, one other thing that I'll mention is

793
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: that they're they're using their bench a little more this year.

794
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: Now Mars loss does hurt that in a sense. They

795
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: still off force to any turnovers on defense, but they're

796
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: taking care of the ball a little more. That was

797
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 1: an issue. But yeah, how Howard minutes are managed because

798
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: obviously they're going to go as he goes when they

799
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: get into the tournament. But I do think Adam and

800
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: McEwan as these secondary scoring options. You know, they could

801
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: help for stretches if Howard goes off the rails for

802
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: a little bit. But yeah, obviously they're one bad game

803
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: from Howard away from being bounced in the tournament. All right,

804
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 1: let's get to the final three teams at the top

805
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: of the conference, and you know, I think Butler's probably

806
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: in that same tier as Marquette and Creighton, so we'll

807
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: cover them. I mean, I think an interesting thing with

808
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: Butler to me, you know, that's a team that's won

809
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: two straight. They kind of stole a game against Mark

810
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: Catt and then they won on the road at Georgetown,

811
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: the game where Georgetown just looked awful, and that was

812
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: after they lost three straight. This is a snail, right,

813
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: There's two snails in the conference. Two teams that play

814
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: really slow. It's Villanova wants to really slow you down

815
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: and Butler. Butler that's a star, and Caamar Baldwin, who

816
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: can just take over a game at any time. He's

817
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: also great defensively. The best thing about those two wins,

818
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: if they kind of stole like they stole Marqutt and

819
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: Georgetown really melted down in the second half, is they

820
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 1: did it without you know, I mean, Christian David was out,

821
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: but Aaron Thompson, who's huge for that team. So to

822
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: get two wins without him as big, I mean, they're

823
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: outscoring their opponents by zero point two points per possession

824
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: with Thompson on the floor, and they're being outscored by

825
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: point one points per possession in conference. They're being outscored

826
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 1: point two points per possession when he's not on the floor.

827
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: And you know, he's huge defensively. When he's not in there,

828
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: you know, he's obviously you know, Kamar bal would have

829
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: to take over more point guard duties. He has to

830
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: cover their best player longer. But when Thompson is in there, right,

831
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: two good guards defensively that can really shut you down

832
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: on the perimeter. Baalwick can just really take over a game.

833
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 1: I think that when healthy, and Thompson should be coming

834
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: back here. He's day to day soon. This is a

835
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: dangerous team, but it's a team that I'm difficult to

836
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: getting a read on all year. Eli, I'll start with

837
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 1: you any field, and Butler, I'm with you. I kind

838
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: of like this team.

839
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 2: Thompson is excellent defensively, so great point there, Baldwin. I mean,

840
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 2: we saw what he did against Marquette down the stretch

841
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 2: in that game.

842
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: It's so many big shots.

843
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 2: Also that dun Markt Fowl to send him to the line,

844
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 2: even though Markette ended up sending it to overtime as

845
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: well with the three. But the biggest, the biggest X

846
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 2: factor on Butler to me is shown on McDermott, because

847
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 2: he's their flour spacer, right he plays, you know, thirty

848
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: plus minutes to night pretty much besides when he's in

849
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 2: foul trouble. He's gotten hot here over the last couple

850
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: of games, in the Marquete game and in the Georgetown game,

851
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: so and he was cold before that. He didn't hit

852
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 2: a big shot really at all. I think he was

853
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 2: at a rough percentage at Villanova er for seven from

854
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 2: three in that game, and they broke the three game

855
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: skid a game after that when he got started to

856
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 2: get hot against Marquette. So having that floor spacer and

857
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: Tucker as well, the duke transfer.

858
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: Tucker's been great.

859
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 2: He can shoot too, right, So I honestly think those

860
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 2: two guys are the key, because are the keys, because

861
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: you know what you're gonna get from Baldwin even when

862
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 2: he's not an elite offensive player on a night by

863
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: night basis, with his interior jump shot or mid range

864
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: jump shot. You know he's going to bring it defensively.

865
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 2: And he's a really good guard too on that into

866
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 2: the floor along with Thompson. But you've got to be

867
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 2: able to space the flour for this team, especially at

868
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 2: their pace.

869
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I completely agree. Their defense is going to

870
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: be there, especially Thompson comes back. The other guy like

871
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: Christian David I believe will come back. You know, we're

872
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: really reserve off the bench, but he comes in and

873
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: does some things defensively as well. But the offense, Yeah,

874
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 1: you're right, it's going to come down to is if

875
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 1: Tucker and and they're going to slow you down, Butler,

876
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna grind he played great defense, and then if

877
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: Tucker and McDermott are making threes, it goes a long way,

878
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: and this team is really dangerous. Count any thoughts on Butler, Yeah.

879
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 3: They It's just a team that I'm uncomfortable with. If

880
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: I had to make a college football comparison, I compare

881
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 3: them to Army because their average possession length on offense,

882
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 3: they're three hundred and forty first in the nation, which

883
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 3: means they need to have a very high success rate

884
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 3: of turning those possessions into points, and I just don't

885
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 3: see it out of you know, having a three point

886
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 3: percentage at ranks seventy six or a two point percentage

887
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 3: that ranks forty seventh.

888
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: The defense is awesome, I mean, I agree with you

889
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: guys on that.

890
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,760
Speaker 3: Butler's twenty six and defensive rebounding and thirteen and affective

891
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 3: field goal percentage against opponents, and so they're they're fantastic

892
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 3: and depending inside the r and hitting the glass, but

893
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 3: they're there. You know, they're one of the worst in

894
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 3: the Big East when it comes to blocks and steals.

895
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 3: The whole average possession link. I mean, why games are

896
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 3: a grind with Butler comes from the offensive end. They're

897
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 3: three hundred and forty first on the offensive side. That's

898
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 3: how long their possessions take, you know, And they just

899
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 3: have to be a little bit more. They have to

900
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: have more success rate is what we would call it.

901
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 3: As to where Army is really good at short yard

902
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 3: situational football. I just need more offensive success from Butler

903
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 3: because there's such a limited number of long offensive possessions.

904
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: Casher tickets if you had Army football the Army football

905
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: prop for Colin mentioning it. But that's a decent comparison.

906
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: All right. Let's get to the top of the conference

907
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: and the two I think no one would really argue

908
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: the two best teams in the conference that sit at

909
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: the top Seaton Hall and Villa Nova. Look, Villanova is

910
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: a team that Look, I've loved Seaton Hall from the beginning.

911
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: I know, Eli's jumping on my wagon, which is fine

912
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: the way. I'm glad you allowed to me. Thank you

913
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: very much. Well, you apologize somewhat for the trip on

914
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: on Miles Pal, so I'll allow you on the wagon.

915
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: But I mean seen Hall. They have, they have tons

916
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 1: of size, their experience, they have a star player, Miles Pal.

917
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: You know, they recently got Mamacus Feeley back. Every time

918
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 1: I say his name, right, I have myself on the back.

919
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: I mean Romarro gill has been excellent seven to two

920
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: kid in the middle. I mean this team defense, I

921
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: mean they're arguably one of the best defensive teams in

922
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: the country overall. And then you obviously have Miles Pale

923
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: on the other side. You know, Quincy McKnight. I mean,

924
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: this team is just they do everything well and I

925
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: love them, and you have Miles Powell might be the

926
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: best player in the country. And the other side of

927
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 1: Villa Nova. It's a team that I and by the way,

928
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: I've seen all right as the sixth best team in

929
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: the country, and the difference between one and six and

930
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: eight and ten, it's not much. It's this ye, especially

931
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: this year. But the Villanova is a team that I

932
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: guess I've been right. I've been rising up in the

933
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: powering because maybe I'm not doing it enough. But I mean,

934
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: Sadique Bay has been amazing. He looks like he's going

935
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: to be a good pro. Gillespie's the steady hand, Robinson

936
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: ear all the freshmen he's been amazing as well as

937
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: more just two freshmen that have been a lot better

938
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: that I anticipated them being, which is why I think,

939
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: you know, I've been fading Nova here this year. But

940
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: I will say Nova is running extremely well, especially in conference.

941
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: Teams are shooting. You heard a say with the Butler

942
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 1: when they missed all those threes. Mcgermoy couldn't make a three.

943
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: You heard us say with Providence they couldn't make an

944
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: open three. With three of twenty three, teams are shooting

945
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: twenty four point six percent. That's like ridiculously good and

946
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: lucky from three against Villanova this year. And Villanova's played

947
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: a really easy conference schedule. Same with Seaton Hall. So

948
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: both of these teams have played a fairly easy conference schedule.

949
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: They're running a little well from three, you know, So

950
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: I think that there's gonna be some value in fading

951
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 1: both of these teams, Saint Hall and Villanova. I'm excited

952
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 1: to throw away more money fading Villanova down the stretch,

953
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: but they're probably at the peak of their value in

954
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 1: conference play. They both played fairly easy conference schedules so far.

955
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: But this Nova team looks good, and they looked dangerous,

956
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: and Jay Right will get him into March and they'll

957
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: have a shot. And their freshmen have just been really depressive,

958
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: and cidiq Bay is just taking a huge step up.

959
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: But I still think Seaton Hall is the best team

960
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: in this conference. But as a conference tournament, and we'll

961
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: talk about this later, this is a right for someone

962
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: to make a run, such as a Providence. So give

963
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: me your thoughts on on the top of the conference ELCT.

964
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 2: I like your point about opponents three point percentage against Villanova,

965
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: Like that is shoot twenty four percent, Like that's going

966
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: to come back at some point positive progression, maybe in

967
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 2: the latter part of the Big E schedule here and

968
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: maybe in the conference tournament.

969
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: And these aren't all contested shots. I've watched his kids.

970
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: I mean, teams aren't making open shots against him, and

971
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: that's not going to persist forever. Right.

972
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 2: The only other thing with with vill Nova's three point shooting,

973
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: respectively for their offense, I was looking back two years

974
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 2: ago when they won the title, because just under forty

975
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: percent of their offense comes from three this year. So

976
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 2: when I keep looking at them game by game, it

977
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: seems so unsustainable. And then I look at what they

978
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 2: did two years ago, and I know they had Jalen Brunson,

979
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: like you have the Player of the Year, one of

980
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 2: the best point guards in college basketball over the last

981
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 2: two decades, so obviously that plays a roll into it.

982
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 2: Nik Bay's really coming to his own I think he's

983
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: going to be a really good pro two stock. But

984
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 2: but yeah, again, just thinking about what they wore two

985
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 2: years ago, they were so reliant on threes too. They

986
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 2: over forty percent of their offense came from three. So defensively,

987
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: I would agree teams are going to regress positively, but

988
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 2: offensively like this is sustainable. This is a sustainable offense

989
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: to make a run in the tournament. The question is

990
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: can their defense hold up? Can that percentage hold up?

991
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 2: Whatever amount of luck, whatever amount of luck goes into

992
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: that percentage.

993
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, very well connected, great passing team that I got

994
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 1: to say, especially you know, with a couple of freshmen

995
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 1: getting prime minutes. But I mean even last year Villanova

996
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: to they were way to three point reliant last year,

997
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: the team that got crushed by Purdue in the tournament,

998
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: But fifty three and a half percent of their attempts

999
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: were from three last year, which was third highest in

1000
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: the nation. So yeah, I mean it's it's a little

1001
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 1: more bad balance this year. On forty six percent, and yeah,

1002
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: I mean that's the new the new hoop, and you

1003
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: know you want to take threes and easy twos, and

1004
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: they get good looks because they are well coached and

1005
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: they share the ball extremely well and just a well

1006
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: connected team. Any thoughts on the top of the conference call?

1007
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: Are you like Ballan? I have no money invested in

1008
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: Seaton Hall.

1009
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 3: And really it's because you know, you guys know with

1010
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 3: me when I'm taking futures, is I look for a

1011
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 3: part in the schedule where there's going to be a

1012
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 3: dip and maybe find a better number. I mean, get

1013
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 3: in Iowa one hundred to one was just a timing aspect,

1014
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 3: you know, like I took Arizona, you know, this week

1015
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 3: off of lost Arizona State. So really it's kind of

1016
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 3: predicated by what the schedule is and predictions of wins

1017
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 3: and losses, and you know, sometimes you have a three

1018
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 3: game road stent. But for Seaton Hall, I love them.

1019
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 3: I mean they're by a mile, the best defensive team

1020
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 3: in the conference or sixth in the nation in defensive

1021
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 3: efficiency there's seventh, and average height sixth and blocks and

1022
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 3: their strength of schedule is twelfth in the nation. I

1023
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 3: mean It's not like this is built on a bunch

1024
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 3: of unbcs or anything like that. I mean, they lost

1025
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 3: to Michigan State by three, Oregon by two, beat but

1026
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:00,720
Speaker 3: in Maryland.

1027
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a legit team. When do you

1028
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 1: take them?

1029
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 3: Maybe wait until after February eighth, maybe till after the

1030
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 3: game against.

1031
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: Nova, That's what that will.

1032
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 3: Let'll encompass the toughest part of the schedule and then

1033
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 3: after that it's home Butler and home Nova for the

1034
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: rest of the season. So I think February eighth is

1035
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 3: where you want to circle for Seaton Hall. As for Nova,

1036
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 3: you know, I mean they've won seventh straight, thirteen to

1037
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 3: fourteen at the loss a Marquette. You know, they're yet

1038
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 3: to play Seaton Hall. They've beaten Kansas Butler, they've had

1039
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 3: a way neutral losses of Ohio State and Baylor. But

1040
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 3: you know, their top ten in the nation hitting their

1041
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 3: free throws, the top twenty five in point distribution from three,

1042
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 3: so they're very reliant on the three still just like

1043
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 3: last season, and they're only eighty third and three point shooting,

1044
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 3: so if they go cold, it's going to be a

1045
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 3: trickle down effect on their wins and losses. What worries

1046
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 3: me about Nova is there three hundred and thirty fourth

1047
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 3: and bench minutes and experience both rank three hundred and

1048
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 3: thirty fourth, which is odd, But I mean, what will

1049
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 3: be in the tank once March comes around when you

1050
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 3: have this kind of bench minutes and this kind of

1051
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 3: experience going in your favor, and if the shooting goes cold,

1052
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 3: it could go south really fast. Scheduling wise, they got

1053
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 3: Butler seat in Holland Marquette all coming up pretty soon,

1054
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 3: so you'd want to take a take a look at

1055
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 3: a futures market around Thursday, February thirteen.

1056
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: All right, there you go. That's as comprehensive as a

1057
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: mid season breakdown of the Beast as you'll get. All right,

1058
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: before we get out of here, we'll just go quickly on.

1059
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: I'll give you a chance to yell, yell about a team,

1060
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: a little rant from the past week, and then we'll

1061
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: just well rapid fire a couple of spots we had

1062
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: circled for Saturday, and then we'll get out of here.

1063
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: This season, it feels like every team sucks. So who

1064
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: enters Struggle City this week and who's moving out? I

1065
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: got a rant about Michigan look moneyline parlay on Saturday.

1066
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: I had them in. I was worried about their free

1067
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: throw shooting a little bit. I know they've been shooting

1068
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: it better this year, but so I just took them

1069
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: on the money line with Utah State rolled, and I

1070
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: mean that was I know they lost livers. I know

1071
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: that there was some questionable calls down the stretch, but

1072
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: I mean, mis six strike. I believe six straight free

1073
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: throws in the final two minutes and Illinois steals that game.

1074
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: That was absolutely infuriating that game. And then I have

1075
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: to just throw this out there. Clemson. I had minus

1076
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: one and a half against Syracuse. There is nothing more

1077
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: infuriating than having a team minus one and a half

1078
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: and then seeing them win on a miracle two to

1079
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: win by one at the buzzer, and then you're just

1080
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: screaming for them to shoot a three. You're screaming them

1081
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 1: for the reps to call a foul when they're going inside,

1082
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: and then you're screaming for the other team to just

1083
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: throw at the length of the court and the other

1084
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: team intercepts it and you get a foul. So Clemson,

1085
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: just Buddy Day, I hit a three at the end

1086
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: of the first half. I had them first half to

1087
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: ruin that, and then the second that they missed a

1088
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: couple front ends and front ends. Just fuck front ends.

1089
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: That's my rant. Now you lie you. My rant is

1090
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: fucked Baylor going back to that game. The other costs

1091
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: me a lot of money this week.

1092
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 2: And then the Florida game too, like they're such a

1093
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: good game. Rebody t g Lespie's so good on the glass,

1094
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: the toal. This is living shit out of me. Just

1095
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 2: rebound the frickin' basketball. If you're Iowa State Florida, I don't.

1096
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I've completely done with them. Mike White is Randalls,

1097
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 2: Eric Musselman from last season. I cannot take Mike White,

1098
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 2: Carrie Blackshear, like remember whenever it was in on Florida

1099
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 2: going back to the offseason, because they got black Chear

1100
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: and he's completely fallen off. He doesn't seem interested at

1101
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 2: times in the game. So yeah, a team just needs

1102
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: to you need to get a good rebounding team against

1103
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 2: this Baylor team because they are fraudulent. And we'll talk

1104
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 2: about a spot on Saturday that I think is intriguing. Yeah,

1105
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,479
Speaker 2: Buck Baylor, Buck Scott Drew, I hate when a team

1106
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 2: just stays in a game and then gets up by

1107
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 2: double digits and wins by double digits because all they

1108
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 2: do is get offensive rebounds.

1109
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Baylor, they have a lot, they have great cards

1110
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: and the outside, they run good in motion, they have

1111
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: great rebounding team. But they're just they're not this good.

1112
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: If they're not, people are saying, oh, we have an

1113
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: elite team. I mean, you have some D three transfers

1114
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: in there, some cast offs. I mean, they're really well

1115
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: connected and playing good, and they have some talented kids

1116
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: that they got in there that are part of the mix.

1117
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: But Baylor in Kansas right now, they're just covering machines.

1118
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: But I think Kansas is clearly the best team of

1119
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: that conference overall. And you're right, once Baylor runs into

1120
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: a team with size. And look that Florida game. And

1121
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: we just saw Florida lose at home in the Mississippi

1122
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 1: State and they probably should have lost Alabama at home.

1123
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: It's been an underachieving team all year and Florida probably

1124
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: should have won that game against Baylor. If you just

1125
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 1: look at the shooting, I mean, and then if you

1126
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: just look at the average shooting splits and project out

1127
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 1: how that game should have played ot Florida probably should

1128
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: have won, and then you have an eight eighty two

1129
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: percent freeth the shooter missing three straight front ends in

1130
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: the second half. Good God, Yeah, I agree, fuck Baylor

1131
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 1: as well, Colin who you want to yell at.

1132
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 3: I think Patrick Ewing should donate half of his paycheck

1133
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 3: for only coaching half of a game, or at least

1134
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 3: maybe take that money and go buy a microwave to

1135
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 3: defrost the dan frozen envelope. I don't know, but do

1136
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 3: something else with that money, because you didn't coach the

1137
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 3: second half of that game the other night against Butler.

1138
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 3: The only other team I'm gonna bitch at is Stonybrook.

1139
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 3: I don't know how your minus seventeen to Binghamton, and

1140
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 3: Binghamton's in a if you do a little geography, they

1141
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 3: were in an eight hour bus ride to Maine and

1142
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 3: the eight hours back, and that's right after they had

1143
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 3: almost as long as a bus ride to UMass Lowell

1144
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 3: and back, and then they had to come see you

1145
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 3: stony Brook through the entire state, down through the city

1146
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 3: and you couldn't even win favored by seventeen points.

1147
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: So you're dead to me.

1148
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 3: Stonybrook seventeen point favorites, and not forget about the cover.

1149
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 3: You didn't even win against a Binghamton team that was

1150
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 3: living in a Greyhound for three weeks.

1151
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: They lived in a Greyhound, they were never even on campus,

1152
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: and you lost a seventeen point favorites. Pathetic? All right,

1153
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: that was great. I did not expect Stonybrook and the

1154
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: geography lesson up north, but that was lovely. And let's

1155
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: go Before we get out of here, we'll just go

1156
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: around and mention a spot or two that you have

1157
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: circle for Saturday. Obviously we'll have a staff favorite piece.

1158
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: We'll preview one or two marquee games on Saturday. Elile'

1159
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: star with you what he got circled for Saturday? One

1160
00:51:55,880 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: or two spots? So many games, so little time. Let's

1161
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 1: look at the Saturday slate.

1162
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, going back to the Big East, Providence is projected

1163
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 2: to be around a ten eleven point dog at Butler

1164
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 2: this weekend on Saturday. What do you make that game,

1165
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: Colin with your projections or stuck?

1166
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: I make it nine eleven?

1167
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 2: There you go, Stuck says nine. I think in the

1168
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 2: number going again. This is another rematch game Providence was

1169
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: playing on the I mean, by.

1170
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: The way, nine is assuming full health. So I don't

1171
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: know if Thompson is going to be back. David so

1172
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: and Thompson's big and Thompson doesn't play, but I think

1173
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: Providence I'm probably going to be on Providence for the

1174
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: spot the matchup, and especially if Thompson doesn't play Undoor

1175
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: isn't fully healthy, but that's just my role. Number is nine.

1176
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, And going back to that last game, it was

1177
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 2: a Friday spot when Providence was like a one or

1178
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 2: two point dog at home against Butler. They had just

1179
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 2: played on the Saturday previously the Tuesday, and then you're

1180
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 2: going up against a red hot Butler team before they

1181
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 2: started their skid. And that was actually the game before

1182
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 2: they started the skid starting with the Seaton Hall games.

1183
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 2: So I think Providence got Butler just at the wrong

1184
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 2: time and now you again get him in a rematch

1185
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 2: when you're probably going to be roughly a double digit dog,

1186
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 2: of course depending on when Thompson plays, but that's all

1187
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 2: about getting the best of the number. If you get

1188
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 2: Providence leave Friday night, you probably get him as a

1189
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 2: double digit dog no matter what whether Thompson plays or not.

1190
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 2: Providence coming off four out of five straight law or

1191
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 2: four to five losses in a row. They shot six

1192
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 2: of twenty five as well from three in that Butler game.

1193
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: So they missed a billion wide open layoups. It was

1194
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: all the first ten minutes. And Providence does play better

1195
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: on the road at times. We saw that at Marquette

1196
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago.

1197
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 2: They started off hot, they came back and ended up

1198
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 2: winning that game in overtime. So I like Providence here. Defensively,

1199
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 2: they match up ball against Butler. Butler is their biggest

1200
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 2: liability is from three though, so Providence has to regress

1201
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 2: positively from three, considering again six to twenty five and

1202
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: that last matchup.

1203
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,720
Speaker 1: But I think they will, and I think Duke bounces

1204
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: back as well. Yeah, I agree. It's a scene that

1205
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: beat It's a Province scene that beat Butler three times

1206
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: last year. They match up pretty well on the inside

1207
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: as well. You're fading Baylor again.

1208
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Baylor will probably be on my card with TCU

1209
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 2: going to Baylor one of the other spots that I

1210
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 2: like a little bit more than TCU at Baylor. Even

1211
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 2: though that line's going to be inflated, Baylor's probably going

1212
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: to be favored by thirteen fourteen points and TCU can

1213
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 2: rebound there like top fifty in height across college basketball.

1214
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 2: So I think they can give Baylor issues when Baylor

1215
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 2: again just tries to win win the game. I gained rebounding,

1216
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 2: but Michigan against Rutgers that's probably going to be around

1217
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 2: a pick. Michigan might even be one point dog in

1218
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 2: that spot. I would consider putting them on the money line.

1219
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 2: That was a huge win at Nebraska without zub no

1220
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 2: Livers as well, and now you get Simpson back. Livers

1221
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 2: was taking shots pregame in that one with the brain injury,

1222
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 2: so I think you should expect him to l Now

1223
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 2: can he can he stand the floor is the question.

1224
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 2: But you know, going back to something Stuck said earlier

1225
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 2: about Rutgers, this team is fraudulent ish. They've won, They're

1226
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 2: undefeated at home at the rack. Geo Baker is a

1227
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 2: great player, but Rutgers on the road is a completely

1228
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 2: different team for a team that relies so much on

1229
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 2: its scoring from inside the ark. So I think you're

1230
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,919
Speaker 2: getting value with Michigan on a team that's probably undervalued at.

1231
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: This point and should start to peak here. Yep, really

1232
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 1: good spots don't disagree with any ones out there out there.

1233
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 1: If you want to buy low sell high on a team.

1234
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: I mean, my big preseason horse future is Louisville. I

1235
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: think they're still gonna have a shot. They have some issues,

1236
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: but so does everyone this year. But NC State, you

1237
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: want to buy low, this is the spot to do so.

1238
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 1: At home against Louisville, you know, a really big game

1239
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,479
Speaker 1: for the wolf Pack. I also will throw out Utah

1240
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: State teams finally healthy, the team is playing really well,

1241
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: going to San Diego State with revenge. Man, if you

1242
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 1: can get double digits here, I think San Diego I

1243
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: think San Diego State could lose this game. This is

1244
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: a huge, huge game for Utah State if they want

1245
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: to shot at in that large bid, which after their

1246
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: conference play has not looked great. So those are the

1247
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 1: two all through out there. I have my spots piece

1248
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: On Saturday, Colin, what do you got?

1249
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 3: First off, don't overlook the fact that CNA is back

1250
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 3: on the road Friday night against five win Iona, So

1251
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 3: don't overlook that on.

1252
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: Saturday, I got I got a handful of them. So

1253
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: de Paul at Marquette.

1254
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 3: Marquet's also a two overtime game and an overtime game,

1255
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 3: and I think that's going to be a spread that

1256
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 3: really kind of catches a lot of people's eye and

1257
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 3: wondering why it's probably short. So Ken palm Mino makes

1258
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 3: it at eight, so we'll see what the number is there.

1259
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 3: Ole miss is also off doublet. They're going to LSU.

1260
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: Oh Man, there we go.

1261
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 3: West Virginia is gonna look to bounce back in a

1262
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 3: route against Kansas State. The Wildcats turnaround and host Baylor

1263
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 3: on Monday, so really quick turnaround.

1264
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: For Kansas State.

1265
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 3: Evansville has lost nine straight conference games and Northern Iowa

1266
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 3: is seven to one of their last eight conference games.

1267
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 3: The Panthers offense can name it here, best shooting team

1268
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 3: in the Missouri Valley against the worst defense in the

1269
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 3: Missouri Valley. Virginia Tech getting points I think against Florida State.

1270
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 3: Possibly we'll see what the spread is. But the Hoky's

1271
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 3: best defensive rebounding team in the conference. They're third and

1272
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 3: defending the perimeter where FSU gets the bulk of their points.

1273
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 3: So I'm looking at the Hokies. Tulsa is I think

1274
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 3: going to be we'll find out if the action that

1275
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 3: we government I think I have a rite up on

1276
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 3: Saturday for our staff favorites, and Tulsa might be a

1277
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 3: Tulsa's winners a five straight big game against Wichita State coming,

1278
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 3: they're hosting them. Tulsa has a clear advantage in scoring

1279
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 3: in the paint. I would take any points we could

1280
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 3: get with Tulsa whatsoever, probably even a pick.

1281
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that thought Tech game. They're off losses at

1282
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: Boston College and at Miami, and they're home against Florida State.

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Speaker 1: Hokies lost three or four now Florida State one against Virginia.

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Speaker 1: I think the spot would even been better, but this

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Speaker 1: is a best effort spot for vo Tech in Blacksburg,

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Speaker 1: So agree with you there. As far as Friday is concerned.

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Speaker 1: Bowling Green, by the way, they couldn't cover at all

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Speaker 1: for like a month and a half. Team got Justin

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Speaker 1: Turner back, he got assimilate it back into the offense.

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Speaker 1: The team is playing really well. They're at Buffalo. Buffalo's

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Speaker 1: coming off a win. If you recall last year, Bowling

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Speaker 1: Green lost to Buffalo in the MAC championship game to

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Speaker 1: go to the tournament, So there's some revenge here Buffalo

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Speaker 1: with a big loss in Bowling Green. I think for mine.

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Speaker 1: I think they're the best team in the conference when

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Speaker 1: healthy and Turners back in the mix. So that's a

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Speaker 1: game that I'll look on an ugly Friday slate and yeah,

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Speaker 1: I own is just a pick at home against You know,

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Speaker 1: there's some injuries with off the check, but keep your

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Speaker 1: eye on that, all right. Thanks to Eli for coming

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Speaker 1: on and joining us. Randal will be back next week.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Colin as always for joining me. Thanks everyone for listening.

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Speaker 1: I would be remiss not to mention the death of

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Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant and the other passengers, his daughter and the

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Speaker 1: other passengers on board, rip and thoughts and the first

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Speaker 1: to anyone impacted by those losses and anyone that's lost

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Speaker 1: anyone recently. I think it's just a great reminder to

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Speaker 1: you call someone that you love, tell them that you

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Speaker 1: love them, and cherish every moment a very fragile life

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Speaker 1: that you never know when it's going to be gone

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Speaker 1: for you or someone that's close to you. And I

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Speaker 1: loved Kobe watching him grow play at Lower Marion when

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Speaker 1: I was just a little kid from a college basketball fan.

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Speaker 1: It would have been so cool to see him go

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Speaker 1: to like Duke for a year, but it was a

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Speaker 1: pleasure watching his career, and I'm sad that we won't

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Speaker 1: get to see what he does next in his Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame speech at etc. But I think it's just

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Speaker 1: a great reminder overall about the fragility of life. So

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Speaker 1: I'll end it there. Make sure you tell a friend,

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Speaker 1: tell Animi about the podcast, rate review, subscribe, leave a comment.

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Speaker 1: Those always help us a ton. Thanks for listening. Joy

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Speaker 1: the weekend of college basketball action and the super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: and we'll catch you all next week. Cheers. He's up.

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Speaker 1: We're finished talking.